Thor: Love and Thunder - Angry Movie Review
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review Thor: Love and Thunder can it live up to one of the best films of the MCU Thor: Ragnarok, is it as mixed as some say? Find out!
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It felt like the movie was afraid to go 2 minutes without the audience laughing. I've never seen a movie try to push comedy in non comedic material/scenes more aggressively than this in the MCU
Paul, if no one is talking, no one is laughing...
Nah Ragnarok was way worse at undercutting its serious scenes with comedy than this one was.
you didnt watch Ragnorak or what? Literally all his friends were getting slaughtered and his dad died lol
@@iLdx25 i did watch it. liked it too. its different since there was still underlying drama in ragnorok
@@telltellyn GotG Vol 2 as well
Wife and I watched this last week, and we thought it felt like a parody for the vast majority. Could easily have been named Scary Movie Thor instead.
Bale was amazing. It's criminal that his scenes are so short. Would have been great if it had a bit more serious scenes with him.
I'd say he was probably the most iconic if it comes to visual but Huuuuuuuge disappointment because he's not A lister he's AAAAAA lister and they wasted him on stupid comedy
@Caspian Yes...but then it would've been *serious* -and CLEARLY that's not what Taika was going for ;)
They tried to force humour so much that the villian became joker himself, Gorr is a GOD BUTCHER, he is a GOD BUTCHER, he is supposed to be serious, calculated, cold, fast, strong, like a vengeful beast, not a sinister, psychopathic frail man, and honestly, i don't feel anything for him from the start to the end, the starting scene lasted for like 2 min of his hugging his dead daughter and that's all we saw of gorr's backstory, like at least show us how his people died, show us his wife, let us at least feel sorry for him. Taikiti basically made everyone except thor himself a total joke, gorr has the necrosword, perhaps the strongest weapon in the entire universe, sure thor's hammer is strong but the necrosword is supposed to be stronger, apparently gorr is supposed to get stronger everytime he kills gods, yes, fresh out of the gate gorr would have been demolished by thor, but gorr is supposed to have killed many gods by this point, look at his battlescars, but hey, taikiti wanted to make gorr weak and frail and in the movie, Zeus says his only killed low level gods, but he was able to somehow subdue thor, jane, valkyrie, and could have killed them all, and in the end fight, gorr somehow lost all his braincells and forgot how to use his shadow realm powers to go in and out of the shadow, he literally forgot about his powers, so gorr, whose strength rivals thor himself, is going around only killing low level gods? Gorr is strong and weak at the same time, i don't think i have seen a villian that is so poorly executed, like at times, his as strong as thor, other times, his weak as fuck. Anyways, all the great things that could have came from the necrosword is out of the window now, the supposedly strongest weapon has somehow became a joke, the GOD butcher is a frail man, basically joker who goes around killing only low level gods? But at times his as strong as thor? so idk man, i'll be completely honest here, taikiti just wants to make his own standalone movie, he doesn't care about the mcu, he doesn't know what the fans want, Gorr's iconic look from the comics, he looks like a proper monster, ay man, who the fuck cares about that, ahahahaha. Hey, Jane Foster, the mighty thor, WHO THE FUCK CARES, just give her cancer and kill her off. OH, gorr had a son in the comics? Who the fuck cares, let's based this whole movie to set up for THor's daughter debut into the MCU, who cares about jane, who cares about valkyrie, who cares about gorr the GOD butcher, honestly, this movie could have been 5 min long, show the beginning, and cut to the end straight away of thor being with his daughter, because honestly, that's all the movie is about, it's all about LOVE guys, it's all about LOVE, hey, LOVE can't save Jane thoooo lololo.....
I don't know. I have a suspicion that the reason there are hours worth of footage with him on the cutting room floor with so little in the actual film is because what we got is the only good stuff.
@@jasonlimweizen more terrible criticism. Imagine thinking your opinion on film matters when you shit on Christian Bale🤣
To me, the film had interesting themes that were left unexplored. The idea of uncaring and unfit gods is shown, but not explored, nor the idea of what it means to be a god, or godworthy. Gor and his grief and was touched on, but the idea behind losing faith in all gods and any hope of an afterlife is passed over. Thor looking up to larger gods who turn out to be dead beats, while thor is actually living as more of a god who actually helps people is left on the floor. There are others themes, but you get my point. Just how I feel though. Overall the film was fun enough.
They don't want to make the film too serious.. honestly it would have been better if they turned down the comedy and focused on things that you mentioned.. the humour isn't that good honesty.. not good enough to sacrifice the dramatic weight that this movie had the potential of having.
@@SK008 there were moments where I wanted to grive for Jane, no I get a bad joke right after that or some bad moment breaking Jane n thor chemistry, it kept happening ,I couldn't enjoy other scenes because of this off beat jokes
@@valaja1458 yep.. it was a case of too much comedy not enough plot..
Facts, it would of been so interesting for Thor to explore the two sides we've seen him in and reflecting on himself and his role as a god but he was just a gag
Thor started out as a deadbeat.
"Thor: Love and Thunder -- I like it better than The Eternals."
Glowing praise.
XD
Eternals was better, at least it has deeper plot and stakes are higher and can take it seriously. Love and thunder is a completer joke and 🌈
You've got to bo kidding
@@dudestravel8934 eternals was the worst movie, i’ve ever watched
@@Jvdpfilm lol. Well that’s on you, I guess either you’re too young or have a bad movie taste. People was hating on Eternals cuz it was release post endgame so Marvel fans expectations were so high, if it was release after Thor: Pride and thunder it would’ve had higher ratings, the story, cgi and fight scenes were way better than Thor.
This movie has everything i dislike about Marvel movies. Every serious moment seems to have forced jokes which are just not needed and not even funny
It felt like a 3 stooges movie. THOR = Mo.....Lady Thor = Larry..... Valkyrie = Curly
@@rayharvey1330 and Korg = Shemp
Reasons why I hated Thor Ragnarok and most MCU movies after Civil War.
Lol something told me to watch a review before buying a ticket. And I never do that
I really thought the whole Jane Foster having cancer thing was going to be taken a little more seriously. We barely even got to see how it affects her career as an astrophysicist. Kind of a waste of potential imo, even w/ Gorr.
The Russo's made the best thor in infinity war, taika just made him a joke.
Taika is a clown. :(
He did a amazing job with Ragnarok. It had both comedy and seroius moments. Great mix
@@Zxein666 I watched Ragnarok like 6 times and I never recalled any serious moment outside of Odin dying..The rest of the movie after that was a humour fest. The movie is still awesome tho because it was fresh, now it's played out.
@@Flash_-gy9vp More characters died, Thor and Hulk chatt with each other, Hel was very scary and Thor and Loki's relationship
And then Endgame happened.
Everything with Gorr in it was great, too bad it was only like 4 scenes. Everything else felt like a parody of an MCU movie
In all honesty at some point I completely felt I was watching a scary movie-type parody of a thor movie.
What?? Only 4 scenes of gorr and hes the main villain?
Everytime gorr was on screen he summoned shadow creatures and when he actually fights he gets his shit wrecked and has to retreat...he didn't convince me at all that he can kill gods...disappointment imo
Completely agreed
@@arkhamxreaper Kratos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*looks at Thor Dark World
“Maybe I treated you to harshly”
No, god no, this movie may have flaws, but its WAY better than Dark World
7/10 is generous. all three of you gave it a 7 while saying "eh. I'm being generous." It's a 6/10. I watched it once. I felt it cared more about sketch comedy than telling a story. When it did try to "get serious," it almost snapped my neck with the transition between 30 seconds of seriousness sandwiched between 30 minutes of sketch comedy. Hemsworth's chemistry with Hiddleson and their Odd Couple routine was sorely lacking with the replacement co-stars of Valkyrie and Jane. Gorr was an afterthought, subordinated by the comedy sketches. The movie was watchable. But there's zero story and zero reason to ever rewatch it. (I've rewatched Ragnarok about 10x). I've only see Guardians of the Galaxy more often. I'd go 2.5/5. 3/5 on a good day.
It’s solid 4/10. Fucking trash, Taika made it so 🌈 .goats are annoying, jokes not funny, Gorr not a God butcher instead a sad Father, zeus portrayal is a complete joke he’s like a clown or entertainer in a children’s party doing some magic tricks with Telemarketer scammer accent, Gorr kidnapping children then thor cracking jokes in front of children while in the cage like wtf??! Everybody trying to be the best comedian in this movie They tried hard to guardians of galaxy so bad and not even close even when jane dying and still trying to be cute. I dont ever wanna see Taika do Thor again he completely ruin thor and Gorr’s story.
This is an easy 3/10. 1.5/5 stars. That is me being generous. 🤣
I agree what really pulled me off it was the cringy renactment if Odins death. Felt uncessarily long
Ya, this movie was lazy and sucked. I have no intention to watch it again. The best part about the movie was the Guns N’ Roses love.
It's a 5/10
This movie felt like an SNL skit of a thor movie for most of it but the jokes don’t land as well as it did in Ragnarok. It’s almost cringe. Too many jokes and not enough time to sit in serious dramatic moments that wouldve meant more if it had more room to breath. Plot and story felt very rushed and we got to things with characters that don’t feel earned. The emotional beats dont make you feel the way it should. Christian Bale deserved better for sure. He was amazing as Gorr and needed more screentime to show more of his story, character and him actually butchering Gods but it kind of felt out of place in this more comedic movie. It was like if Heath Ledger as Joker in terms of performance and story was thrown into a SNL sketch. There were no stakes really. Watched Ragnarok right before Love and Thunder and Ragnarok had a way better balance between jokes, drama, story, and character development. And the jokes in Ragnarok landed way better than in Love and Thunder. The theatre i went to only had a big laugh the first time the goats came in and screamed but that was really it. I really didnt like Thors character or his arc much in Love and Thunder, its like when he went to SNL to do skits of Thor. Thors best trilogy and story arc is between Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame.
I know phase 4 is like phase 1 and is supposed to set up bigger plots but this movie should still stand on its own and it doesn’t to me.
Same pfp well as the opinion of what I was thinking. A man of culture.
Gonna comment this on every review video aren't you.
I think Taika Watiti didn’t understand why Ragnarok was funny. A lot of that humor in that film revolves around Hulk and Loki, established characters with history. Valkyrie and Korg were the worst parts of the film and he thinks since they were his creations that people wanted more of them.
@@kylevernon There are some creators where you give them more freedom and they really shine, but a *lot* of creators need the limits to reign in their worst aspects. It's clear what category Taika is in.
It IS all cringe,I almost walked out
This film is more proof that Phase 4 is an uneven, overly humorous, and creativeless mess. I miss the old days of the MCU, and I miss how awesome Thor used to be.
Agreed. And seems like everyone is giving this movie a pass just cause it's Thor and the MCU. Like, everyone says "it's good" but then proceeds to say how the most fundamental parts of the movie didn't work and were an over the top mess. Yet they still give it a 7 or 8 cause of bias.
Considering Kevin Feigee admitted there was no plan whatsoever for Phase 4, I’m not surprised the guy that was responsible for Ghostbusters 2016 ruined an easy setup to cement his name in history.
This whole phase has just been an attempt to insert woke idealism into a “popular platform” and it’s not been going well. Especially when you consider the one movie that did extremely well, SpiderMan: No Way Home, didn’t do any of that and decided to carter to the actual fans.
@@NathanCassidy721 What did Kevin Feige had to do with Ghostbusters 2016? Are you confusing him with the director Paul Feig? Or am I missing something?
the old days of MCU were overly jokey mess since age of ultron and kept getting worse.
Shame it took people this long to figure it out.
@@medalgear654 it at least paid off in a grand finale.
I felt this movie was way too comedic in my opinion that I just couldn’t take it seriously seriously they overdid it with the comedy
they've been overdoing it with the comedy for a long time.
Saw quite a few people say this movie “learned a lot from ragnarok and doesn’t overdo with comedy” and I’m unable to grasp why someone would think that after watching.
More than Ragnorok? Since I already thought it was overdone in that one already
I agree completely
Glad I’m not the only one that thought this. It was a 6.5/10 for me because of this. There was 2 cool fight scenes but outside of that it could be a serious thing going on screen and they have to crack a joke in the middle of it. Never knew they would make thor into a comedy movie.
The scene with lady Sif was a total disaster. She’s laying there dying and they had to make a joke about it totally pathetic. Takes the seriousness of a god butcher (that only killed one god on screen) out of the movie. Totally agree with you guys. Movie was all over the place. 2.5 out of 10.
She wasn’t dying she was injured
Right? She returns after 9 years, no arm, it's never even addressed why she disappeared and they cut the dread and fear of the God Butcher short for more childish laughs. And she was in her comic accurate costume. What a fucking joke of a movie. 0/10.
@@BboyZoinks Bro she lost a whole arm, shes dying lol.
@@unisect9106 hence the line “maybe you’re arms in Valhalla”
@@unisect9106
Losing a arm is just a inconvenience.
feels like with every MCU movie that comes out, everything get less and less important. This is the lesser without a doubt.
Mcu is garbage now I stopped after like age of ultron. All u have to do is go back and watch the original iron man from 2008 and you will be shocked at how good it still is. Love and thunder you will forget 20 minutes after u leave the theater
@@MidniteMeatBus recently watched iron man 1 and it’s such a night and day difference to what the MCU is now.
@@MidniteMeatBus no way home is an exception, but yeah I agree with u mcu is turning into a dumpster fire, they should really up their game
To me it's kind of fitting that the best scene in this movie is when Gorr makes the characters shut up for a minute.
They treat Thor like a joke in this movie
And it's glorious!♥️
Infinity War is peak Thor.
They had already been doing that
If I had a nickel everytime these companies disrespected their characters, well, I'd have a lot of nickles.
This movie?
He treated like a joke in every movie he’s in.
The pacing and humor was all over the place😢 The monochromatic scenes are great.
using google to understand what monochromatic is
Too bad that movie is pretty dumb most of the time. Too much forced cringe humor. 5/10, Bale is good tho, as always.
I liked the bit when they got to the Shadow Realm and the characters audibly said out loud that the colour had gone so the audience knew what was going on. Truly one of the scenes of all month.
Yeah, that whole monochromatic part starting with Gorr's monologue, and the fight scene were amazing. Other than that...
Too much comedy really don like this !!!!🙄👎
I'd love to see the 4 hour version of this movie. Adding 2 hours of Gorr development and other more serious scenes would space out the comedy and really improve the overall tone of the movie. Some of the Jane scenes could have been really emotional, but 1 minute before and after you have goats screaming. Every Gorr scene followed Thor being in a love triangle with his hammer and axe. There's a good movie here, but it's buried deep beneath awful tone issues.
Tikai Whatiti better give us the 4 hour cut on BluRay
I thought Ragnarok was too much MCU humor for me, and seeing how Love and Thunder is even more, this movie is going to be a pass for me.
I agree but I still loved that movie. This movie was bad and jokes stopped landing quick. Good decision not to watch it. I wanted to walk out by middle of third act(would’ve been sooner but there was some small intrigue that never came through and was a complete letdown). I’ve never wanted to walk out of an mcu movie before.
This film is ass, nothing good at all
Its ghostbusters 2016 basically.
So many lame jokes just kills it, didn't care about anything that was going on
@@captainhavok1176 u can be happy u didnt. Thor literally made aprox. 20 thor kids. Yes he can make other beeings to god as will. They also can fight after he made them immortal. God this movie is such a piece of shit.
This movie is the worst fan fiction i ever saw
All I'll say is the best Thor were going to see is Thor from infinity war.
Or the first avengers Thor
Wait so you feel that humiliating the character you are a fan of is something you enjoy? That's just so weird to me.
He wants too badly to like things. Makes him have brain dead consumer moments (many).
Hmmm
bro angry Joe has become a parody of himself , angry Joe is the same guy who dislike stranger things season 4 but loves ms marvel tv show so there you go
@@vegeta91287 :0
What the heck are these guys doing 7/10. Garbage
Fuckin hate it. Christian Bale out acted EVERY SINGLE person on that call sheet. And they WASTED IT. His character was the only one who was intriguing. When he was on screen he stole it away from everyone else. If there was to be a serious Thor film, this should have been it. It deals with serious, deep, contemplative questions about God, atheism, nihilism etc. That could have been great. But inevitably the answer to Gorr's nihilism is a Christian one. So we can't do that, let's be a slapstick 2 bit comedy that removes all weight. Janes story of her cancer could have been another great mix to the seriousness of Gorr. Taika waky waky sucks. He's overrated, one trick pony who has killed Thor. I liked Ragnarok. But, the best Thor wasn't his. It was Infinity War and Endgame. A very somber, serious, self reflective funny. Not a big buffoon. They criminally wasted a brilliant performance by Bale.
So what did you think of it?
@@Dangangela6565 Lmao. This movie is getting poor reviews everywhere. Rightfully so. Look at Lightyear. Disney's quality has dropped significantly. Kevin Feige even stated there wasn't much of a plan for Phase 4. It's just random bullshit with no end goal in mind, you can see it in the writing of everything Phase 4.
@@Dangangela6565 the Mcu is not all great. Nah? Nah? What about it Nah? ☺️
I'd be interested to hear what answer would be a Christian one, specifically, here.
Christianity denies other gods exist yet blames things on them constantly - especially Satan. Or the Principalities.
When Satan got all of his powers from.... heh ho.
Anyway, yes it was a bit shallow. But he did find something else worth fighting for, than revenge, if belatedly.
@@chrissonofpear1384 The response to nihilism. And the suffering of life. The argument against it is fundamentally Christian. That suffering is what strengthens us and prepares us for the future. Idk how you took what I said as a literal point for point harmony between the mythology and Gods etc. Ik monotheistic religion versus polytheistic.
6/10 is super generous imo, especially from Alex, I would have figured more like a 4 like it deserves.
Anyone who read the God butcher storyline and grew up with these comics can't have liked this movie, this interpretation. There is absolutely no way.
It was entertaining, but yes they should not have used Gorr in this film. Complete disrespect of a fantastic villain. Inexcusable.
Alex has disappointment me.i feel like the joes are telling him to score closer to them
Joe gave Loki 10/10 so ya. Be weary of Disney reviews. They need permission to hate on ot
He did exactly what I was afraid he was going to do, take an extremely serious storyline and turn it into a joke. Wasted Gor.
I wish that they made more time with Gorr, make him be more of a menace as opposed to only be there to swing a sword against Thor.
Gorr
Isn't that Gorr's whole character? He was nothing without the Necrosword.
Anyone who is even vaguely familiar with the comic run involving Gorr knows what this film was supposed to be. It's seriously one of the darkest, most serious runs you can come across. The entire run is depicted as perilous for everyone who comes across Gorr. Aside from what the run itself describes, "off panel" it's implied that Gorr has been "at it" for a while. He's killed MANY "gods". At one point he even claims to have "tortured the god of torture". It takes multiple Thors including a few from other realities to finally take him down. An epic tale with heavy consequences.
Instead, we got the classic bait and switch. We got female Thor stealing the thunder (pun intended) and almost nothing even remotely close to how the actual run went. A mish mash of the same "female Thor" run that didn't sell the first time they tried it and the Gorr story. They made one of the darkest themed runs you could muster, and made it a bright rainbow filled g-a-y ass film that just has no purpose aside from "strong female". As usual, pandering to anyone and everyone aside from the actual fans that spend the money.
@@crazyworld54321 i think your overly hating, it’s not just female Thor, it’s a *SPOILER ALERT** inspiring story about a dying woman deciding to spend her last moments alive doing something that is meaningful, and most importantly choosing to love even if it hurts. It makes perfect sense with Thor’s character.
@@crazyworld54321 at least she had a proper death, ironically Thor should have the heroes death with losing to Gorr, then Jane or Valkryie finding the multiverse Thors and take him down altogether like the Gorr run, just with a modern twist.
This should be a continuation.
I have learned everytime i see these reviews to watch Alex's face
...and theres your rating 🤣
Alex has went on about films he LOVED and gave them like an 8, then gives this a 7 lol. I hope he's bring influenced and hasn't lost his way
Bro right ! Lol
At this point I warch the channel for his reviews. The joes are delusional industry babies
This makes me sad that they squandered the Gorr the God Butcher story arc so much. Like it took 3 Thor's in the comic to barely take him down and he did kill a bunch of gods. Like Gorr was next level sinister. I really wished they incorporated the multiverse aspect into the film and gave us 2 different versions of Thor or at least King Thor or at least brought in Hercules as well. Like less jokes and more lore friendly would have been much appreciated this time round.
And just to add. Why touch on such serious topics just to take the comedy way too far. Like could this not have been balanced as all things should be, between humor and seriousness. Thor 1 and 2 weren't amazing but they were more serious and it seems like this film needed more of that with the appropriate balance of comedy.
That's why Thor Ragnarok was trash too. AJ is retarded for thinking that movie was any different than this and I can't believe he gave it 10/10. Ragnarok is literally about the death of his father, the near genocide of his people and basically the end of the world, and they're cracking jokes every five minutes. I couldn't believe they took what was basically the darkest storyline the MCU had tackled thus far and made it a light hearted comedy.
Disney has no direction whatsoever
100% agreed! They screwed it up, entirely.
From all the Thor comics, this one was probably one of those that they shouldn't have had overdone comedy, even knowing what kind of tone the movie was. Jokes every 2 mins made this movie unfunny and tedious to the point to actually breaking Thor's character. I felt this was the dumbest Thor ever made. I agree with you, balance between serious moment and comedic moments was needed with this villain. They completely missed the opportunity.
Or they could've introduced Beta Ray Bill and not Natalie
When Jane had the stage four cancer I predicted she was going to die, because of the love theme and "letting go." Bale was great in every scene he was in, but I felt the "misunderstood villain" trope was running rampant
No film has the Balls to show a carachter in a sci fi world of magic and advnced alien technology not get Cured of thier Cancer becasue according to Hollywood if u get cancr in a sci fi or fantasy world u die, I guess its the only false hope where not allowed o give in fiction.
Stargate SG1 is the only sci fi ive seen that had the balls to have a carcacter with Terminal cancer actually get cured by hosting an alien consciousness within him (if removed he would die of the cancer so its not gone)
Wait until Disney Plus to watch this unless someone else pays my ticket
as jeremy jahns put it: "this movie felt like a MCU parody of thor", and that is just not good at all. Gorr should have been used much more in the movie (Bale was the best actor and they barely used him), the comedy toned way the hell down, and they should not have made thor into a literal dumbass and joke of a character. Watiti's Thor is just not it, Thor in Infinity War remains the best version of the character and how Thor should be.
now it wasn't all bad, such as how it's good they didn't make Jane this "got the hammer = instantly amazing and better than Thor in every single way" like in the awful comics version of this arc, Jane/Thor relationship worked in this, some cool shots/fights... but the movie was all over the place, rather rushed and clearly with a lot of scenes cut from the final edit. It says something when a lot of the actors were talking in interviews how "so many cool scenes were cut".
5/10 at best for me, what Watiti has done to Thor as a character really brings down the movie for me.
Jane was absolutely “instantly good at everything Thor is” or a Mary Sue. The only difference is she didn’t humiliate Thor or try and put him down (he did that on his own) and she actually dies at the end and doesn’t replace him. That last part actually surprised me.
But it’s just another movie that isn’t allowed to be creative or let Thor be a hero no thanks to studio politics, ideology, and a director who thinks he’s Stanley Kubrick because he made two good movies.
Too many jokes that were unneeded. Gorr never felt like a real threat to me. He's the God butcher but how many did we see him kill to make he so terrifying. And the plot with the god telling him about the sword was weak
@@NathanCassidy721 Did we watch the same movie ? 😑
@@NathanCassidy721 The hammer literally gives her powers…. How is that a Mary Sue ?
@@NathanCassidy721 Yea it always seemed she wanted to believe she could but in reality her inexperience showed. I feel youre just throwing mary sue willy nilly.
The first Thor is an underrated movie. It had a little fish out of water humor, but gave Thor a good character arc. Sure, there were too many Dutch angles, but it had a distinct directorial style.
A very bland directorial style
I enjoyed it. I think it had the Doctor Strange MoM problem where it wasted a director’s potential. They should’ve made the first one more Shakespearean considering it was Kenneth Branagh directing.
I agree it was the perfect thor movie
Ew the 1st Thor was awful lol
I know I have no clue why people hate the first Thor so much. It’s one that I rewatch all the time.
I feel like the director is the type of dude that thinks that any idea that pops into his head is borderline genius
It doesn’t help that he made two movies that people still have positive memories of:
JoJo Rabbit and Thor Ragnorok.
Didn’t see jojo, kinda an odd angle with the subject matter . But I never liked ragnorak, it wasn’t genuinely funny, but it certainly was trying to be funny. I think Chris is excellent as thor and can do comedy well, but the director needs to go . As some have mentioned I thinK thor was best in infinity war/endgame.
I think the humor works best with subtle delivery from hemsworth rather than cheesy lines and lame ideas from
The director of the past two thor films , Chris has natural comedic delivery but the director will never be mistaken for a true comedian
Comedy doesn't click with everyone.
Some people didn't laugh, whilst my entire theater, which was packed, was having a great time.
@@NaruneWatercrest my theatre chuckled and i was the only one lauhging
@@NathanCassidy721 Jo Jo Rabbit was great
Usually you guys are pretty spot on with the reviews….. however this time… way off the mark, this movie was complete trash. But hey glad you liked it, i guess we can expect the Marvel movies will continue to decline if people will accept a shit sandwich and call it filet mignon.
Agreed; this was the worst MCU movie I've seen. 3/10
For sure agree with this, besides Bales awesome performance I can't say I liked much else about this film. Oh hey! the fact Mjonir disassembled into a cool attack was maybe one thing I can say I liked.
@@TanThighsYum i agree with both of those statements, not much else was good if anything.
@@TanThighsYum if you want to see a more honest and accurate review, peep out mine.
I definitely wouldn't say that this was garbage. Eternals was garbage, but this one was decent, but overused it's comedy
Joe is extremely generous with the MCU Recently. Multiverse of Madness, which was a inconsistent mess, riddled with plotholes, some of the dumbest moments in MCU History and a weak af ending? 9/10. Love and Thunder which feels like a 7 year old kid took up Gorr the God Butcher and desperately tried to make a kids show out of it? 7/10. It’s like listening Joe talk about Suicide Squad or Brightburn again...
I hate "multiverse" / "Time travel"
It simply ruins all stakes, nothing matters, "oh this is a variant, oh this version is way different, oh in this made up universe spiderman is batman and they ride on silver surfer's board and everyone is also giant ants or whatever..." just hate it. It's fantasy wish fulfilment, which in a purely childish way is okay when it's literally a kid and their imagination or toys on the floor, but for a movie were disbelief has to be suspended, it's pure nonsense.
Multiverse of Madness was a huge disappointment and Thor is just more of the same.
@@MST3Killa I do not like the changing heroes either. Natalie Portman is great, female superheroes are great. But getting a second Thor is not great. Like getting a second Captain America was not great. Suppose we got a new male Black Widow? What would be the point? And though many loved the new Spider-Man, it was kind of pointless to just have three Spider-Men and then two just returned home like it was the adventure of the week or something.
Multiverse of madness was meh at best.
5/10.
Thor on the other hand was just plain awful. It was soooooo BORING. It's literally a movie for kids. Just like Ms marvel.
A weak 3/10. Thor was just too dumb. Jane foster being Thor was really not needed at all. I'm glad she actually died, the best part.
Gorr was so cool...before watching the movie. SUUUPER weak villain with no impact. Also, he was so stupid. At the very last moment, he realizes that he can revive his daughter?????!?!??!? SERIOUSLY?!?!
And my god...king Valkyrie?! WTF? please remove that wooden block as the strong and independent black whamen.
This movie is completely pointless and has the same energy of spy kids. It's pure cringe unless you are like 8 years old.
@@majormoolah5056 Jane becoming thor is from the comics. Get over it.
@@grilledleeks6514 There is literally piles of dumb decisions in the comics. So that is not a good argument to make. Getting a Batman movie with all the different Robins would be a hard pass for me. But if you love the comics and Jane becoming a Thor -- more power to you!
Never go full Taika. I thought Ragnarok overdid it with the comedy, I can only imagine watching this one
frr
there's alot of plotholes they didn't care about the story. their main focus with this movie was how many jokes they could squeeze in 2 hours
Don't do it brother...trust me don't make my mistake haha ,its even worst than she hulk
@@orfeas2335 oddly enough I'm actually enjoying she-hulk, I'm shocked to be honest 😂 maybe my taste is getting worse as I age
nglThe gentle Pirate however is fucking gilarious
They put Gorr in the wrong movie. He should have been a huge villain for a more serious movie to truly flush out his character. He felt like a waste in what felt like a full blown comedy.
Agreed
Movie was a fun time. But i think im ready for a new director, i want a more serious thor like the comics.
Yeah, this Thor feel like a cheap copy of Deadpool
@Numpteez Yea anyone who enjoys this trash isn't an actual fan of the character.
The issue is that I'm pretty sure the a lot of the reason Chris Hemsworth is still doing Thor is because of Taika, meaning I doubt they will want to change directors id they want to keep Chris in the role
Zack Snyder would do Thor justice
say it!!
Cant believe you guys scored it that high, I gave it a 4/10. There was so much cringe in this movie and bad dialogue with a nonsensical plot. Ragnarok is my fav MCU film but this movie was trash and that's being generous. Most jokes don't land, very forced comedy unlike Ragnarok, Bale and Hemsworth were only redeeming part of the movie. Bale felt seriously underutilized, he at least got some good parts while Crow was 100% wasted. There were over a handful of scenes that could have been straight cut because they served no purpose. I was honestly a lil pissed when I left the theater, the AC unit in the theater I was in broke a week ago and they never bothered to stop showing film in it even though it was over 100 degrees in it. We had to complain and get switched to another showing much later in a different theater, all for a movie that was beyond disappointing. Oh and I loved how the manager laughed off my concerns that someone could get heat stroke in that busted theater with it being a 107 this week and packing 200 people in a box.... he offered me a free Icy for my concern. And no the theater AC thing didn't affect my scoring, movie was watchable but not a good movie.
Whatdaya expect? Ragnarok was a basically comedy and it got top reviews everywhere and everyone, critics & fans loved it (for me it was worrying treating Thor as a joke char). So, of course they would go to "let's make a full comedy film".
For most MCU fans, funny films = good films.
For me the thing with Ragnarok is it had a lot of comedy but it was still a somewhat dark film and actually had a character arc for Thor. I felt the comedy in that film was also way more fitting than in this new one. Its just horribly written.
@@MrFreakazoid24 Absolutely right. Thor was still serious in that movie. Here he's a true moron, a walking airhead space jock who is absolutely insufferable and all the characters look at him like he's unbearable, because he's now written to be.
Gor should’ve gotten the Thanos treatment in this Imo as in this should’ve been his movie in a way. We know Thor we know his problems as a character and he could’ve over come in such less time than he did. We know the main characters. We didn’t need as much time with them as we got. I did still enjoy the movie though it’s just annoying when you want to see the interesting villain played by a great actor more
every villain in mcu is some misunderstood good guy...and for some reason that is considered smart,it have layers...so they keep doing the same for everyone
@@thespartanjello5056 its not being a misunderstood good guy, its often a total phyco with good intentions but horrible mindset. Because tbf, a bad guy who’s just an asswhole with no redeeming features is often just not that fun to watch unless for comical purposes.
They should’ve continued this Gorr arc in Thor 5. He was amazing and very under used
@@thespartanjello5056 But this is a little deeper than that, there are quite a few obvious parralels between Thor and Gor throughout the entire movie. Gor IS a better villian than most of the other MCU villians, but that's a pretty low bar
Hammer was a misunderstood good guy?
I thought he was a mental case like Edward Nigma in Batman Forever.
Pretty sure Red Skull wasn't misunderstood either (despite him being able to foresee the future incoming threats, dude literally is a Nazi commander).
Just minor correction.
Hearing about the cut scenes, they better have a 'theater cut' and a 'director's cut' on disney plus and physical media so that we can see the cut content with the film only being under 2 hours which with that run time alone it should've been around 2.5 hours
Ah yes,great idea! Release a cut up version of the movie in theaters and charge extra for subscription to watch the actual full film,great,we need loot boxes too,and season passes!
The mcu will never have an extended cut of a film
@@cheeb92939 they’re actually going to release an extended cut in theaters sometime soon, which I feel is a disgrace because for as good as the movie was it felt like they could’ve done more and it turns out they did and they just want more money for it. I’m against all this extended cut BS because it just makes us pay for the same movie twice.
@@imperatorboxing5071 ZS Justice League did it better
@@jessechristner9568 yeah the jacket sniffing and moaning bgm ladies were really good cinema sure
This film is just further proof that the MCU is done as a cultural force.
Thor is the most inconsistent character in it because studio politics absolutely refuse to let him be what we all want him to be:
THE FUCKIN’ HERO.
@@Dangangela6565
And everyone else’s opinion.
Nobody really cares about any of the new movies outside of No Way Home. Everyone agrees that Endgame should have been the last film. PERIOD.
@@NathanCassidy721 well,,, i wish IW would be the last film ;)
There isn't anyone with control over the MCU as a whole, from film to film and this is causing serious issues with continuity and an overarching theme. This is why this phase is all over the place tonally, thematically and why Phase 4 kinda sucks (as a whole) compared to the other three phases.
What politics? Dude...
@@NathanCassidy721 What studio politics ? Thor has more films than any other MCU hero. It sounds like you’re trying to force your narrative down everyone else’s throats.
My biggest fear after the success of Ragnorak was that Waititi was going to remove any kind of comic restraint and dial it up to 11 for the next one. It looks like I was dead on with that prediction.
In my very honest opinion, this is the best phase 4 movie. I'm a person that truly doesn't care about pacing, if it's too slow or too fast or if it wasn't "dark enough" as some people say. I simply watch movies to be entertained and to positively obsess over, and we can't go wrong with the MCU.
This phase needed a strong movie that wasn't dark and sad. So I love everytime there was a joke, we needed to laugh with Marvel again, especially since 2018 with Infinity War, everything has taken a darker turn and we needed a break from it.
This movie certainly isn't better than Thor Ragnarok, it is better than Thor and Thor the Dark World (even though I love that movie, Frigga's funeral is surreal). I have to agree that Gorr should have been used more, if there is ever a director's cut, I would see it.
In the movie theater that I was watching the movie, the room was full, everyone laughed, everyone clapped, everyone left with a smile on their faces. Isn't that what we needed?
The jokes were compltely unfunny, so many MCU goers fake laugh at forced comedic moments
I personally feel like this is one of those MCU films that could have had another 30 minutes added on.
No it doesn’t considering Taika said that there is a 4-HOUR VERSION of this film.
And I for one am not eager to see what they cut from the final product.
almost positive that that longer version is just full of jokes that don't even pertain to the plot of the movie which was confirmed by Taika
And all the goddamn goats taken out.
More Gorr (10 of those 30 minutes)
Less jokes (So cut some shit and replace)
More of Thor and Jane's arcs
@@NathanCassidy721 I feel that EVERY Marvel movie should at least have 3 hours
I like feel you guys give this way too much credit for the amount of mediocrity and bad stories in phase 4 so far
Doesn't everybody? It seems like a lot of people generally overlook mediocrity with Marvel.
Phase 4 is woke trash
Mediocrity is safe.
@@KelFad women bad man good
What's scary is in phase 4, this is on the higher end. The D+ series are unwatchable.
My expectations were low but damn this movie sucked ass
Same. Honestly, the MCU should have just ended at Endgame
@@attigator What the hell? He said THIS movie sucked, and you just jumped straight at the good old "McU sHoUld HaVe EnDeD aT eNdGaMe"...
@@attigator na fuck dat I want more, just not this shit
@@urbent3147 fr like bring Dr doom into the mcu or sum shit
@@gabrielmazzeirodriguez8724 you must not have heard they are
I just saw this with my wife today. After waiting for her to catch up with all the main MCU movies…I’m left extremely dissatisfied and so was she. She gave it a 4/10. I thought she was being to nice. I give it a 2/10.
I expected this movie to be deeper in emotion like really exploring Thor his grieving and how he was going to get over it. We saw him so many times lose loved ones and all that was rushed through taika’s annoying narrating. There is something to be valued by “showing” instead “telling” the inner obstacles the character is overcoming. Every time the movie got serious taika’s direction ruined the moment, the jokes were not funny and if they were it became mundane by so many placed after it. Damn. Im pissed and not excited of what’s to come for Thor especially because this could’ve been a better movie that would help his character grow. Im just glad taika won’t be part of Thor any longer.
Long story short.
*Gorr deserves his own solo movie.*
Exactly, Gorr was phenomenal. Need more of him. More terrifying than Thanos.
This movie was everything wrong with the MCU amped up to 11. Its like a 7 year old picked up a bunch of crayons and wrote the script at random.
Ironically enough, Hemsworth described it as a movie made by a 7 year old
Exactly what the director was going for.
Thor 3 was more structured with the humour and plot and it was far more original at the time.
Now with so much repeated gags and poor timing it just didn’t hold up, almost at all. It cringed.
Cranking things up to 11 didn’t do the trick this time
@@KhanMann66 And it look at that, didn't work lol
@@famousthaneus9810 makes sense
Thor movies need a laugh track at this point
Hated the kids scene. Hated Gor suddenly becoming good. Hated the little girl he gets saddled with. Hated that he gives up Stormbreaker to said little girl. Hated the feminist speech Natalie gave Gor at the end after he addressed her with a title of respect.
Compared to the previous Thor movie this movie was trash. Why is Thor now a Guardians of The Galaxy spin off? MCU has lost that special magic after End Game. They're too busy focusing on diversity and losing the story telling aspect for these hero's. Just keeping it 100.
It was way more of a 6 than a 7. Tons of LGBTQIA+ bullshit, Gorr was barely in it and had no buildup, Jane came back for no reason, Thor left the Guardians before having a single adventure with them (montages don't count), Corg's narration was irritating, the empowering of kids was bizarre, the reveal that Heimdall has a fucking son is out of nowhere, etc.
Tbh this is one of the worst movies I've gone to see in a theater
It was very cringy indeed
You must not have seen very many movies then
I wish they would give us a breather form this relentless "comedy" and lack of consequences/stakes. I also wish Thor wasn't a living memester and had even just a little bit of resemblance to his stoic comic counterpart.
The stakes were that all gods would be wished away and a consewuence of the movie was Jane dying because she kept using Mjonir too much
I don't reslly get this criticism
@@thereverseeffect7269 thank you! I don’t get the stakes criticism. Just cuz it all ended well for them, even though one main character literally died, doesn’t mean there aren’t stakes leading up to it
The breather is called "DC". This movie reminded me why I preferred DC over Marvel, with Spider-Man as the one exception. Sadly, live-action DC is mostly ass too because they want to be Marvel for some reason and force in cringe jokes as well, but animated DC films are top tier. We just got The Batman, though, which is a step in the right direction
The only thing that got butchered in this film was Thor's character development
@@SuperSaiyan3985 he was predictable.
Good Wanda's character was butchered so thors character should also be butchered too 😏
The problem for me is, Endgame and Love and Thunder have now cemented Thor's character assassination. Rather than have him resolve his arc as King like in the comics (like in the movies he didn't want to be King, he wanted to be an Avenger but that's the whole point of his growth and him maturing and learning to rule as the Allfather, something they robbed him of in the MCU), he passed it over to 'King' Valkryie the enslaver, for no reason other than 'to find himself' for the 50th fucking time. And that's now led on to him being in total and utter character limbo. Pissing around with the Guardians flying his axe like a broomstick? Now paired up with fucking Gorr's daughter of all people?? Still fighting random CGI bad guys by the end of the movie with no end arc resolution unlike Cap or Tony? Now he's regressed back to Mjolnir and being the God of hammers despite having since progressed to what Eitri called 'a king's weapon'? They need to right the wrongs of Endgame and Love and Thunder, make him King or just kill him off. He's absolutely going nowhere right now and hasn't for 2 movies straight since his brilliant arc in Infinity War.
The first half was like a long tiktok video. No pauses, no comedic timing, just characters spitting their lines in a sarcastic way. I almost walked out.
This movie makes me appreciate the first Thor all the more so 🙏🏼
That shit is so boring lmao
Kenneth Branagh and Dutch angles
@@austincrawford8717 and this one is a funny shit it doesn't make it better my guy
@@DubsBrown Lol! So many Dutch angles!
@@M-8o5 “a funny shit” eloquently stated
If someone has 7 years old brain and attitude of the kid this movie is masterpiece.
Just consume product and wait for next product
@@bumblebee1300 i am 12 and this is deep
Kids in the ciname seemed to enjoy it. After 40-60 minutes i just wanted it to end.
legit the theater i was in was completely full and not a single person laughed or clapped the entire movie except for the end credit scene with the hercules cameo
Funny because that’s exactly what the director was going for.
Am I the only one who feels gaslighted at the intro where korg is saying thors life and how every died but makes it into a joke? So I’m supposed to laugh at thors losses? But take him seriously in infinity war? Does his character have any stability ?
that was one of the worst scenes for sure...
First 3rd of the movie started off so promising but turned into a should have been released on Disney+ movie for me. Writing was very wonky, I liked that Stormbreaker and Mjölnir are sentient I found those scenes funny. Interesting to hear that there is so much cut out I had the distinct feeling that this was a 'lightened' version because of the over use of jokes. Since they are dealing with kidnapped kids, marketing probably didn't want to make Bale's character too scary and give people nightmares lol
I will have forgotten about this movie by next week it's not Ragnarok. Wait for it to released on streaming services.
After Black Widow, the latest Doctor Strange and the recent Tv shows I think I am finally MCU'd out.
Over critiques DC films and always sugar coats marvel. In their eyes there’s never a bad MCU product lmao
Yup this film sucked hard and someone like Alex should think about his taste, cause he shits on everything, but this humor forced trainwreck of a movie.
their reviews have no credibility at this point. What they say dont match the score they give to this shit wtf
Besides Loki, Spider-Man, and parts of Moon Knight, this phase has been absolute dog shit and I’m not exaggerating. Probably the worst MCU phase so far in terms of quality. Seems absolutely direction-less and too woke for immersive purposes
Glad people still give recognition to Loki. I don't think we'll have another MCU series as good as that.
I thought Loki was overrated cmon, he didn’t do a single clever thing the entire series. But I ageee the whole phase 4 has been pretty weak for the most part. Spider-Man has been the best of it so far
Shang-Chi was pretty good too.
Loki was a side character in his own show lol.
@@kevinroque5374 I stand corrected. I also liked Shang Chi
We should have got A LOT more Gorr in the movie. Anytime he was on screen I was fixated on the performance. Also the audience didn't laugh nearly as much as I expected.
I enjoyed Gorr... except for that one scene where Gorr is taunting the kids. Ot was too hammy.
@@yesmansam6686 Lmao, that was funny to me. Not this sketch style bullshit they tried forcing every 2-3 minutes (every scene basically).
Disney MCU films now feel like their "park rides" but not "experiences". anymore.
@@murk4552 you know, that's what I'm noticing about this movie. It's so crammed with jokes of varying caliber that this movie winds up being truly subjective. I liked some jokes that others didn't. Lots of people loved jokes that I hated. People are even divided on whether or not this movie was good or bad based on the strange, jokey tone of the movie.
I think it was way too jokey, but lots of peoples I know are praising it for being funny.
Another shining example of why Joe should stick to reviewing games and ditch the movie reviews (or at least put them on a second channel).
Dude…that movie was BEYOND TRASH! I knew it was trash when Thor hit the DAMN SPLITS! WTF WAS THAT!?
Taika was completely unhinged this time. Way way WAY too much slapstick in this movie it literally never lets up in places it really needed to.
Christian Bale must have a really strong back for carrying this entire movie.
Legit, he's the only good part of the movie despite barely showing up
I gave it a 5. It has a decent storyline. But they ruined the film by catering to kids. They stuffed tons of kids joke and also includes kids characters because they knew its summer time and kids are going to see it. Stop catering to a certain demographics!!
To me it definitely felt like there was a much better movie in there than the one we ended up with.
Taika didnt take Ragnarok (world ending scenario in the comics) seriously and y'all thought he'd take the God Butcher seriously! LOL.
He was right when he tweeted 'i'll ruin your mythos in a minute.'
This is the MCU in a nutshell.....a joke.
Gonna cry?
Phase 4 I has definitely been a let down. Apart from Spider-Man No Way Home which might be my nostalgia talking Marvel has just been downhill lately.
Yeah, the comedy has just been a bit too much minus NWH where the comedy felt just right. I'm really hoping that Guardians 3 is as dark as James Gunn is saying it will be
Everything after infinity war has just gone downhill.
Not everything. Just a few bad apples.
Multiverse of Madness and this are the worst marvel films. Instead of making good films since endgame they have been pushing sjw politics and social issue crap whilst trying to make you laugh
This movie felt intentionally cheesy and cringe a lot of the time with the one liners and the jokes to the point that it didn't feel marvel, it felt like an outcast compared to other MCU films.
To me Ragnorok was extremely over rated. The tone was too comedic so I'm not surprised to see so many similar comments about this one. Thor's planet was being destroyed, his lifelong friends murdered and he just never really reacted the way a person should.
Well when you think about the character Thor he isn’t human and he struggles with his emotions so him reacting in a way you expect is not realistic. His whole race takes dying in battle the best way to go. So even if he lost all that he knows truly they are in a better place
@@RebornKingz he never celebrated their deaths, he barrly even acknowledged them. The entire movie had too much of a comedic tone even when things should have been more serious. I think people enjoyed the movie because the prior movies just weren't that great. For that reason they overlooked the bad writing and flaws of the movie. My expectation wasn't for him to be human, contrary to that I expected him to be more like he was in the previous two movies.
I'm glad u said to YOU because ragnarok is one of the best mcu films out there
Just by hearing this, I can tell it has the same issues I had with Ragnarok, which I admittedly am not too big on, tbh.
Exactly.
That's right Kiwi.
Ragnarok not only makes a parody out of THOR but actually insults the character.
I feel like if we got that extra 30min of Gorr in this film it would have lifted it to a solid 8/10 maybe 9 along with a couple of less re-used gags even though I did enjoy the gags. Would have liked to see more of Gorr in the first act to see him going on a rampage of actually being the god butcher. Build up the intensity of how powerful he was going to be to battle. And they could have maybe also used that time to explain a little more of how the sword was corrupting / possessing Gorr.
Why would you ever say “I enjoyed the gags”. Absolute dork 😂
I have to believe that anyone saying this was good either is a teenager or early 20s and/or never read the comic runs of the God butcher.
@@Justice4Skye because no one is supposed to disagree with your opinion? The number of Karens in the current generation scares me smh
@@iamyourfather4270 I'm stating facts...not opinions, look at the demographics of the age groups of who gave the movie positive reviews.
Facts are the opposite of opinions and truths, a dictionary or even thesaurus would help you if needed.
@Rigbone it's ok I've been beaten down by worse people in real life then I'd ever allow online, but I appreciate your kind words, means a lot. I'm just a big fan and have dedicated years to marvel and comics, it just hurts to see it made a mockery of. The new generation seems to like it...I guess they are trying to appeal to non comic fans...
I thought the army of children was really dumb. These decisions took me out of the moment.
I'm a old Gen-X and grew up reading comic books and yes, I'm one of those guys who started collecting comic books in the mid 70's and my collection was way above average back then and even more so by today's market. It contained many early 60's to late 60's and so on with around 4000 to 5000 comic books and all 1st and direct print editions with some specifics issues I hunted down through the decades with many hundreds at least worth a 1000 times their weight in gold. I said "I had" because I passed it on to my son as a family heirloom in 2012 when he came of age. Of course the jewel of my collection was/is "Journey into Mystery #83 graded 9.4 by CGC" which was the comic book that got me hooked on THOR right there and then when I was old enough to read. Of course that comic book wasn't a collectible item as it was I don't how many reprints it was. But when I came of age and had the means, I hunted them all down, any direct 1st print editions.
I am a Marvel purist and especially when it comes down to THOR and I can recount almost every runs/story lines off the top of my head and can point you to the right books for the facts you're looking for and/or specific story lines by just you giving me a hint about what you're looking for. From the origins even to this day with the Donny Cates run going on right now. So, that's enough for setting up the context on how and why I know what I am talking about when it comes to the Marvel character of THOR and as to why I hated this movie so much.
The character of THOR appeared in a total of 8 MCU movies including 4 of his own. Again, being that THOR made the majority of my golden eggs among my collection and the most complete above all other Marvel/DC various character runs. Seeing how the MCU portrayed THOR in the MCU is heartbreaking and It pains me to see kids (young millennials and Gen-Z) these days not knowing their Marvel characters other than what the MCU/Kevin Feige feeds/tells them in their movies and they never picked up a comic book in their lives. The MCU completely destroyed and retcon the Marvel character of THOR. They made him a buffoon, a comic relief, a dumba$$, weakling, a dimwit and totally nerfed him power and abilities wise. The MCU character is night and day from the comic book version. THOR Ragnarok, Avengers: End Game and now this latest THOR love and thunder movie, have completely made a mockery of the great Marvel character of THOR.
Taika Waititi directed the two worse films of THOR and this man should never come within a thousand yards of anything THOR related future projects. This THOR Love And Thunder is a big joke from start to finish and it pains me to see one of Stan Lee's greatest characters used in such ways that he must be rolling in his grave right now. Me who thought that no new THOR movie could ever be as bad or worse than THOR: Ragnarok, then Taika Waititi comes along, proves me wrong and surpasses himself by directing his second piece of sh*t THOR movie.
Katherine Kennedy destroyed "Star Wars" and "Luke Skywalker", so much so that this hit Disney hard. And now, they are letting this happen again by having bad writers and even worse directors. Katherine Kennedy was/is the doom of "Star Wars". While "Kevin Feige is turning into Katherine Kennedy" and "Taika Waititi" is the "Rian Johnson" version of Marvel. You want to know who the real Marvel Thor is, pick up a few comic books from the golden age up till the Donny Cates run going on right now, That's the real Thor, King and All-Father of Asgard.
Neat
Ty
This story could have been great but the Disneyfication of it killed everything good about it.
Everyone adult over the age of 30 who paid that whopping price for the ticket to see this garbage, instead of the storyline of Gorr from the comics, should be allowed to see the next MCU movie for free. I feel ripped off and my trust in MCU has been violated.
Tbh you have to realistically look at MCU as it's own universe. That makes all the bad decisions exist in their own merit aka the MCU and it's number, 16666 I think? Someone correct me if not.
Even comic readers will agree, it's the reason we have the multiverse numbered and the awesome happenings within the varied universes of the comic runs.
However even the MCU messes this opportunity up when they mistakenly reference their own characters in Dr. Strange MoM as being 616, which can't be true because the mainline comics is 616 soooooo
Basically they're gonna have to do even more Retcons in the MCU to address inconsistencies with the characters and plot holes, old issues they solved with the comics' narratives decades ago.
Tl;Dr we gotta look at MCU as its own universe, as tradition to the comics... Even though the MCU broke the tradition by introducing the confusion (future mystery?) of having the movies and comics of having both the same number of 616.
Surely, they can sort this out. Surely.... -oh fuck-
As I reread this they probably are gonna go the Secret Wars Battleworld angle with Incursions being the major threat, just like in Dr. Strange MoM.
In the comics, several universes we're being merged like Incursion events, so that may be explanation of why MCU was revealed to be 616,
That is the only connection I could muster because the rest is literally just multiverse stuff and I have seen more than enough of that.
No Clone Saga again for me no thanks lol my head is already needing rest trying to sort out a movie franchise's epic narrative.
They'd have to pay me to watch another MCU movie. This is the trend with Disney, period. I'm done. Call me when Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man comes back.
Gonna go out on a limb here and I say honestly I thought this film was pretty bad, it's sitting at like a 4/10 for me. Really didn't like this one at all.
Visually I thought it was great, and Christian Bale was fantastic but beyond that I'd describe the film as a bit of a stupid mess. Good for kids but not anyone else
Immaculate visuals, use of color, and breakout performances by Gorr and Jane. My major problem with the film was the ending didn't make sense. I won't completely spoil it for those that haven't seen it, but they fiercely fought to stop Gorr from getting to a certain place and then in the end just gave him a motivational speech and left the fate of countless beings up to his good judgment. What if Gorr said, "F*ck it" after the pep talk and completed his plan? Couldn't Thor have used that opportunity to get what he wanted? It was a rushed and contrived plot that ultimately left me confused and disappointed.
The sword was broken so he wasn't affected by it anymore
Seeing how this, Spiderman 3, and Doctor Strange 2 turned out as a 6/10 movie... then the Boys season 3 just doing so much better than Marvel is refreshing to see what I want to see in superheroes.
I hope DC doesn't be like MCU in their upcoming movies
Batman is the only thing keeping my faith in DC atm. Black Adam looks generic and has a shit director and writer, The Flash is.... lol... yep. Shazam 2? Who the hell cares?? Hopefully beyond that they sort themselves out, now is the perfect chance seeing as Marvel is massively on the decline.
Season 3 of the boys was a let down. All this hype we have to take down Homelander. They bring in Soldier boy just to take him down at the very end...
Only thing going for DC is Batman.
Dr strange 2 has a solid rotten tomatoes score
Yet Spider-Man: NWH made more profit than any of favourite products lol. The Boys isn't even top 10 most watched OTT series. Even the garbage Wheel of Time adaptation got more views than it. You ppl can only appreciate failures, because you find them relatable to your pathetic lives lmao.
I'll watch this next month on D+ Doesn't sound like its worth $15
Same movies really not drawing me in enough
Wouldn't recommend someone who's been affected by cancer to see this film because the film doesn't take that concept very seriously, and uses the seriousness of it at times as leverage to pull off the next joke
Thank you.
They said “let’s just add some 80s rock to make up for our bad writing”
Worst movie I’ve seen in awhile. Id rather watch minions for the second time. Movie couldn’t go a minute without throwing lqbtq in your face like you were gonna forget it existed. Oh, and don’t forget when they threw Thors clothes off, and had to make a comment about doing it to the women, which then all of a sudden, wasn’t acceptable.
This movie is in the top 3 worst mcu movies for me
damn
What are the other two
Cap
@@ValkenDnB for me personally. Eternals and thor the dark world
@@TheSoulWithin7 ah yeah I couldn’t even finish eternals.
Just seen the movie. If Thor 4 is a good and the most excellent movie, we might as well say Batman and Robin is an amazing movie and one of Dc's greatest films.
Well Batman and Robin isn't the worst DCU movie. Idk what that means for Thor 4 though.
It's nowhere near as bad as Batman and Robin.
MCU is losing it’s momentum.
Been lost it
DC catching up. Marvel is running itself to the ground
The problem wasn't overused comedy. The problem is THE ENTIRE FILM did fing nothing. The villain felt just as generic and bad as the one from thor 2. He was a generic and boring villain that did nothing the entire film other than attack a small town of new asgard and kidnap a couple of kids. . . and THIS was the ONLY character driving the plot forward. As a result, the plot was uneventful.
And yes, that's the true problem, the plot was uneventful with alot of empty air that they had to fill with jokes rather than plot points. This script felt like what I would expect from a disney plus show. It's not what I would expect from an actual movie budget. Thor was exclusively a "reactionary protagonist". In Ragnarak, he was an "active protagonist". This is the difference for what makes this kind of films either good or trash. Is the person driving the plot forward actually doing anything interesting? If no, then you have a bad premise for a film. The whole thing needed to be reworked for how much of a "no" it answers that question with.
2 Dads in Eternals, 2 Moms in Doctor Strange 2, 2 Dads implied in this one, the word “Orgy” written into a Disney movie 3 times….man I Hope Black Panther 2 has two trans parents and 50% of the cast is LGBT AND they must make fun of Jesus only then will it check the activist boxes 🍻 here’s to hoping
I think for Thor 5 they need someone else to direct it. Taika just had too much comedy in it. Like the first half was trying so hard to be a comedy but mix in serious elements.
Also, before going into it I knew that Gor would be killed off since Marvel has a villain problem. Plus, I don’t think Christian Bale would want to stick around and be in another marvel movie.
Plus, I’m glad that they didn’t replace Thor with Jane or should I say Mighty Thor. And now seeing where Thor is now at the end of the movie is bound to give us a new story that’ll further develop Thor’s character.
The main problem is that they let Taika write this one too. A Taika directed Thor 5 could (maybe... sorta... barely) work, but letting him go all in like this would be a huge mistake
Taika thinks of Joey tribbiani when he made his version of thor...
pretty sure he wont. ragnarok was praised to lotr levels so him getting full reins in the next one was expected. this one is getting so much flag that there will at least be people telling taika "you shouldnt do that" when making thor 5
I hope he doesn’t direct it 😰 this film was a mess loved ragnorok
Mighty Thor was a feminist addition to the MCU.
No way I was gonna touch it, and once again I am vindicated.
She’s dead
Aside from the signaling, MCU movies are also being ruined by the insistence on being cookie-cutter Disney-fied short bursts of goofy dopamine. Phase 4 has been pointless.