Mugabe was 100% right. BBC News - Zimbabwe land reform 'not a failure' www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11764004 oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/has-zimbabwes-land-reform-actually-been-a-success-a-new-book-says-yes/
@Katherine Sparkes You are obviously a white person who continues to think we blacks should worship white dictators like Ian Smith. We are not going to do it. He was a bad ruler and a dictator, who lost his ' Rhodesia' - a country that belonged to the black man.
God bless Yugoslavia God bless Czechoslovakia God bless USSR God bless Dahomey God bless Zaire God blees Rhodesia Carry on reminiscing in the past like you can't achieve in the present and future
@@jaycee9752 That suggests to me that you aren't Rhodesian then, and that you don't have any evidence to back up your claim except your racially biased position against this great man. Or was there something else you didn't mention?
@@YOSUP315 Yes, I once heard Smith say blacks are of less intelligence and need guidance all the time. But anyway, the man is gone and it is good riddance. He did not allow blacks to vote when in fact they were in the majority. For your information, there were less than a million white people in Rhodesia in those days, and the black people were about 6 million people. We were totally disenfranchised by that man. He behaved worse than a dictator. I wonder where he is now and whether he has the chance to vote where he is now. Good bye.
you can say many things about ian smith, but he was not corrupt, he was not cruel, he was not power hungry, and he was no dictator. after all he deserves respect.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 Mugabe was the real racist he made Zimbabwe into a black ethno state by killing white farmers, stealing their land and making them into refugees.
@@AlbertBasedman if you want to talk about Mugabe we'll talk about him. If you want to talk about the subject of this video we can do that also. But don't play this stupid game.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 How was he cruel and racist? You mentioned in another comment that Ian Smith said that Africans, as a race, are all idiots. ruclips.net/video/rsGGukqa0-M/видео.html This seems to prove you wrong, my friend.
No, not a great man but one who refused to accept African rule until it was forced on him and only after a bloody civil war. Some would consider him a great man if he had accepted that he was man, like any man on earth and not an eternal ruler over the hapless African people, who were forced to fight for independence because of his intransigence.
@@jaycee9752 You don't really know what happened in Rhodesia, do you? You know the story that has been perpetuated throughout the years, indeed the very one I was taught growing up in Zimbabwe. The truth is that Mr. Smith did not think himself an eternal ruler nor try to cling to power as Mugabe did, the Rhodesian constitution never had a racial qualification for the vote--it was a meritocracy, meaning that one earned the vote based on a certain level of education and contribution to the National Fiscus, whether by annual income or land ownership--and finally, it was never a fight for independence nor was it a racial fight. It was a fight between greedy, power-hungry Marxist-Leninist terrorists, who committed crimes against humanity on other blacks to force them into supporting their terrorist parties, and a free market capitalist government implementing an evolutionary introduction of responsible blacks into positions of power through the voter's roll, as and when they proved ready and capable, resisting a sudden, revolutionary change which would favour one the terrorist leaders, Nkomo, Sithole, or Mugabe, depending on which carried out their terror and intimidation campaign more efficiently. If the rest of the free world, Britain, South Africa, and the US, had not betrayed Rhodesia, forcing Smith and the Rhodesian government to negotiate with the terrorists, I believe that we would still be the "Breadbasket and Jewel of Africa" instead of the wasteland that it has become, and furthermore, if the Rhodesian model of government had been applied to all the other former colonies, perhaps we could have avoided the terrible state that Africa has been in since it's "Independence" from Europe.
@@Rhodieman I do not agree with what you just said. You sound every bit a Rhodie, who failed to see that their greed caused the disaster that is Zimbabwe today. I was born in Zimbabwe. I used to listen to Ian Smith's broadcasts. I and my brother were always depressed because he described us being less than human and that all things had been done for us for little return. We were not allowed to work or live within white-designated areas, where was our contribution to the fiscus going to come from under such a cruel argument? .Ian Smith acted a god in our land in those days, but his days ended, as did Mugabe's days. Both men were ultimate dictators and please do not excuse Ian Smith or his white regime government which profited from our labour for no return to the blacks. The Almighty shall judge the guilty but I tell you, England had arranged it that the button would pass from Smith to Mugabe, hence our economic situation today. The English trained the guerrillas, whom you call terrorists, but judgement is coming for the guilty ones from the Almighty. I will never see your point of view because Europeans did not suffer in Rhodesia and instead profited at the expense of the poor majority black people.
@@Rhodieman Sorry Mr William Green, I do not agree with you because you are not black. If you had been, you would have been treated as an inferior person in Rhodesia. Obviously you hero worship dictators such as Ian Smith, what else to I have to say to you. I hope this ends our discussion on this matter.
@@jaycee9752 I don't think that is valid argument nor an acceptable end to our discussion. I think it is good for people who disagree to talk because perhaps each side could learn something new. I've asked what made you believe you were treated as an inferior person in Rhodesia. Was it the fact that the voter roll was intentionally made easier to access for blacks by lowering the requirements? As a white person, I have constitutionally do have the right to own any land anywhere in Zimbabwe. At least under the Land Apportionment Act, blacks were entitled to purchase certain land which whites were not allowed to purchase, and whites where allowed to purchase certain land which blacks were not allowed. This was to allow each culture to preserve its way of life. However, I can find no evidence that blacks were restricted from living and working in the cities and towns, quite the opposite, in fact. You say that the whites profited from the poor blacks, but the fact is that the black Rhodesians enjoyed a higher standard of living than anywhere else in Africa. A standard which is still much higher than even the upper middle average of Zimbabwe today. I hope you are not actually someone who just buries their head in the sand, not willing to have their mind changed because the lie they've been told is more comfortable than the truth. Like I said, I used to reason that there must have been a cause for the fighting, there must have been serious oppression which is why I discounted the Rhodies' claims of how amazing Rhodesia was, but the more I research and dig, the more I am surprised at how it genuinely seemed to be quite a fair country with majority of the armed forces being black, wanting to defend it against takeover by communist extremist terrorists--I called them such because they committed acts of terror on civilians: bayoneting women and children, abducting people, torturing people, forcing people to house and feed them, and finally the shooting down of two civilian aircraft (which I had never even heard of before a few months ago)--who were undermining the chiefs and the tribal system.
Though it is good to see that Minority rule has ended in Zimbabwe. It is sad to see the direction it has taken under Mugabe. Hopefully the end of his rule will see a better nation.
Everywhere black people predominate turns into a slum ruled by crime gangs. This is true in Africa and Detroit, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Atlanta, St. Louis, Baltimore, etc.
@@LooserRaikkonen sure, it wasn't called "Apartheid" but there was still discrimination. Ultimately, Zimbabwe-Rhodesia would have been the ideal government. Allowing Mugabe to take power was still unwise.
@@DarthNicky there was discrimination as with every country back then, but a lot of this hype about Rhodesia's racism is due to west making out as if Rhodesias racial situation was worse than it was. This was done because Rhodesia took England's greedy paws out the cookie jar. Rhodesia according to England and other western powers only then all of a sudden became some racist cesspool almost instantly after they declared independence. Even by western standards at the time Rhodesia was "progressive". There were more blacks involved in parliament that who also had much more of a say than in the USA at the time.
One of the weirdest dictators of all time. Obviously he really wanted independence and prosperity for Rhodesia/Zimbabwe but still he kept it an apartheid minority rule
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 > once again: let me know how things have "progressed' in the last 40 years. Same as: Detroit Gary Indiana, etc. Show me a Black city that is NOT a Wasteland!!??
@Jan Pearson In particular he was betrayed by Henry Kissinger, who formulated the sanctions and as Smith relayed in a public speech, Kissinger had told him there would be no help from the free world only ever tighter sanctions until Rhodesia capitulated to the desires of these foreign governments.
Smith was never right. He refused to talk to blacks or Africans as he called them and therefore created a situation where the Africans went to war with him, forcing him eventually to the discussion table in the UK. He was defeated because he thought he would rule for over a thousand years, which he used to preach every time we listened to him. He left a dejected, defeated, and demoralized man, a condition which he earned for himself. Independence in 1980. was ultimately good riddance for that confused and arrogant man.
@@jaycee9752 And look at 'Zimbabwe' now. The only accomplishment they've had is majority rule, which obviously didn't work out for the poor sods. How sad it is when a 'racist', 'arrogant' and 'confused' man could run a country better than the people that supposedly owned it by right of birth. "I told you so."
Smith was 100% right.
The man was a genius. The world was stupid not to back him
White minority rule was racist garbage bound to fail. And fail it did spectacularly.
Mugabe was 100% right.
BBC News - Zimbabwe land reform 'not a failure'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11764004
oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/has-zimbabwes-land-reform-actually-been-a-success-a-new-book-says-yes/
Rhodesia had international sanctions but still prospered. Zimbabwe had no sanctions and made their country into a shithole.
@@brianmuvuti2505 Your response is quite accurate.
Ian Smith is one of my favorite politicians of all time, what a great man and leader.
It is a great pity that a dictator like Ian Smith is called ' a great leader'
Jay Cee Oh no, a zimbabweeed
@@jaycee9752 he was not a dictator as he had to be subject to a parliament although elected by almost only white people.
@Katherine Sparkes You are obviously a white person who continues to think we blacks should worship white dictators like Ian Smith. We are not going to do it. He was a bad ruler and a dictator, who lost his ' Rhodesia' - a country that belonged to the black man.
Says the guy who listens to incelcore 😂😂🤡
Truer words have never been spoken
God bless PM Ian Smith , God Bless Rhodesia
There is no Rhodesia now. And no Ian Smith. How can you bless what is dead?
God bless Yugoslavia
God bless Czechoslovakia
God bless USSR
God bless Dahomey
God bless Zaire
God blees Rhodesia
Carry on reminiscing in the past like you can't achieve in the present and future
@@jaycee9752 Zimbabwe died the moment Rhodesia fell. How can you bless what is dead?
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That's a hell of a speech for a minute and a half.
It was definitely out of hell. He never considered Africans as human beings.
@@jaycee9752 not true
@@YOSUP315 I am African and I used to listen to his speeches in Rhodesia then. They would make us very unhappy all the time. Yes, what I said is true.
@@jaycee9752 That suggests to me that you aren't Rhodesian then, and that you don't have any evidence to back up your claim except your racially biased position against this great man. Or was there something else you didn't mention?
@@YOSUP315 Yes, I once heard Smith say blacks are of less intelligence and need guidance all the time. But anyway, the man is gone and it is good riddance. He did not allow blacks to vote when in fact they were in the majority. For your information, there were less than a million white people in Rhodesia in those days, and the black people were about 6 million people. We were totally disenfranchised by that man. He behaved worse than a dictator. I wonder where he is now and whether he has the chance to vote where he is now. Good bye.
Ian Smith was right. He was never defeated but he was betrayed.History has proven you right Sir.
you can say many things about ian smith, but he was not corrupt, he was not cruel, he was not power hungry, and he was no dictator. after all he deserves respect.
He was racist and pretty stupid. He also ran an illegitimate and cruel state.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 Mugabe was the real racist he made Zimbabwe into a black ethno state by killing white farmers, stealing their land and making them into refugees.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 "illegitimate and cruel" I sure hope Mugabe wasn't half as bad.
@@AlbertBasedman if you want to talk about Mugabe we'll talk about him. If you want to talk about the subject of this video we can do that also. But don't play this stupid game.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 How was he cruel and racist? You mentioned in another comment that Ian Smith said that Africans, as a race, are all idiots.
ruclips.net/video/rsGGukqa0-M/видео.html
This seems to prove you wrong, my friend.
His arguments are well thought out!
That won my respect in his favour.
I love Ian smiths speeches
a great man.
No, not a great man but one who refused to accept African rule until it was forced on him and only after a bloody civil war. Some would consider him a great man if he had accepted that he was man, like any man on earth and not an eternal ruler over the hapless African people, who were forced to fight for independence because of his intransigence.
@@jaycee9752 You don't really know what happened in Rhodesia, do you? You know the story that has been perpetuated throughout the years, indeed the very one I was taught growing up in Zimbabwe. The truth is that Mr. Smith did not think himself an eternal ruler nor try to cling to power as Mugabe did, the Rhodesian constitution never had a racial qualification for the vote--it was a meritocracy, meaning that one earned the vote based on a certain level of education and contribution to the National Fiscus, whether by annual income or land ownership--and finally, it was never a fight for independence nor was it a racial fight. It was a fight between greedy, power-hungry Marxist-Leninist terrorists, who committed crimes against humanity on other blacks to force them into supporting their terrorist parties, and a free market capitalist government implementing an evolutionary introduction of responsible blacks into positions of power through the voter's roll, as and when they proved ready and capable, resisting a sudden, revolutionary change which would favour one the terrorist leaders, Nkomo, Sithole, or Mugabe, depending on which carried out their terror and intimidation campaign more efficiently. If the rest of the free world, Britain, South Africa, and the US, had not betrayed Rhodesia, forcing Smith and the Rhodesian government to negotiate with the terrorists, I believe that we would still be the "Breadbasket and Jewel of Africa" instead of the wasteland that it has become, and furthermore, if the Rhodesian model of government had been applied to all the other former colonies, perhaps we could have avoided the terrible state that Africa has been in since it's "Independence" from Europe.
@@Rhodieman I do not agree with what you just said. You sound every bit a Rhodie, who failed to see that their greed caused the disaster that is Zimbabwe today. I was born in Zimbabwe. I used to listen to Ian Smith's broadcasts. I and my brother were always depressed because he described us being less than human and that all things had been done for us for little return. We were not allowed to work or live within white-designated areas, where was our contribution to the fiscus going to come from under such a cruel argument? .Ian Smith acted a god in our land in those days, but his days ended, as did Mugabe's days. Both men were ultimate dictators and please do not excuse Ian Smith or his white regime government which profited from our labour for no return to the blacks. The Almighty shall judge the guilty but I tell you, England had arranged it that the button would pass from Smith to Mugabe, hence our economic situation today. The English trained the guerrillas, whom you call terrorists, but judgement is coming for the guilty ones from the Almighty. I will never see your point of view because Europeans did not suffer in Rhodesia and instead profited at the expense of the poor majority black people.
@@Rhodieman Sorry Mr William Green, I do not agree with you because you are not black. If you had been, you would have been treated as an inferior person in Rhodesia. Obviously you hero worship dictators such as Ian Smith, what else to I have to say to you. I hope this ends our discussion on this matter.
@@jaycee9752 I don't think that is valid argument nor an acceptable end to our discussion. I think it is good for people who disagree to talk because perhaps each side could learn something new. I've asked what made you believe you were treated as an inferior person in Rhodesia. Was it the fact that the voter roll was intentionally made easier to access for blacks by lowering the requirements?
As a white person, I have constitutionally do have the right to own any land anywhere in Zimbabwe. At least under the Land Apportionment Act, blacks were entitled to purchase certain land which whites were not allowed to purchase, and whites where allowed to purchase certain land which blacks were not allowed. This was to allow each culture to preserve its way of life.
However, I can find no evidence that blacks were restricted from living and working in the cities and towns, quite the opposite, in fact. You say that the whites profited from the poor blacks, but the fact is that the black Rhodesians enjoyed a higher standard of living than anywhere else in Africa. A standard which is still much higher than even the upper middle average of Zimbabwe today.
I hope you are not actually someone who just buries their head in the sand, not willing to have their mind changed because the lie they've been told is more comfortable than the truth. Like I said, I used to reason that there must have been a cause for the fighting, there must have been serious oppression which is why I discounted the Rhodies' claims of how amazing Rhodesia was, but the more I research and dig, the more I am surprised at how it genuinely seemed to be quite a fair country with majority of the armed forces being black, wanting to defend it against takeover by communist extremist terrorists--I called them such because they committed acts of terror on civilians: bayoneting women and children, abducting people, torturing people, forcing people to house and feed them, and finally the shooting down of two civilian aircraft (which I had never even heard of before a few months ago)--who were undermining the chiefs and the tribal system.
What a great man and leader
Yeah led all his followers right into destruction.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 I wouldn’t say being the bane of the USSR and America and lasting 14 years is a failure
@@avus-kw2f213 nobody cared about that ridiculous joke of a state. Don't be delusional.
Legend
A legend.
Ian Smith was 'a legend'. In his lifetime.
Commies and hypocrits will ruin anything.
You can call us rebels and you can call us rouges we were founded by an English man by the name of Cecil rhodes
Rise O Voices of Rhodesia!
Betrayal was a fucking understatement
His words against pseudo independence apply just as well to many EU member states reduced to mere provinces.
"Ian" seems to be the rhodesian version of "Chad".
They Chester and Harold Kicked the South Africans out of Angola.
That sharp left turn could have destroyed it all for Uncle Ian.
Rhodesia got help from South Africa. Without that help they would have been lost much earlier.
completely in the blue
Based af
Today is the 55th anniversary and of UDI
A visionary.
Every comment is pro rhodesian and the disgusting slime in the replies seem to almost always be against rhodesia and Ian Smith.
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To you too
@@manoliepapadakis4574 ¿? why u want to he dies??
😊Ian Smith, 1919 -20007.
Though it is good to see that Minority rule has ended in Zimbabwe. It is sad to see the direction it has taken under Mugabe. Hopefully the end of his rule will see a better nation.
There actually was no apartheid in Rhodesia
Everywhere black people predominate turns into a slum ruled by crime gangs. This is true in Africa and Detroit, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Atlanta, St. Louis, Baltimore, etc.
Ha ha. Nope.
@@LooserRaikkonen sure, it wasn't called "Apartheid" but there was still discrimination.
Ultimately, Zimbabwe-Rhodesia would have been the ideal government. Allowing Mugabe to take power was still unwise.
@@DarthNicky there was discrimination as with every country back then, but a lot of this hype about Rhodesia's racism is due to west making out as if Rhodesias racial situation was worse than it was. This was done because Rhodesia took England's greedy paws out the cookie jar. Rhodesia according to England and other western powers only then all of a sudden became some racist cesspool almost instantly after they declared independence. Even by western standards at the time Rhodesia was "progressive". There were more blacks involved in parliament that who also had much more of a say than in the USA at the time.
Lament
Who was not being reasonable and racist? The Western World, not this great man.
One of the weirdest dictators of all time. Obviously he really wanted independence and prosperity for Rhodesia/Zimbabwe but still he kept it an apartheid minority rule
Mr. Smith was NOT a dictator, he was elected by the eligible voters of Rhodesia.
@@chrispetersen113 what made them eligible except they themselves? It was a dictatorship, an oligarchy, and unwanted.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 > once again: let me know how things have "progressed' in the last 40 years.
Same as: Detroit
Gary Indiana,
etc.
Show me a Black city that is NOT a Wasteland!!??
@@chrispetersen113 irrelevant to the conversation. And why cherry pick? There are a litany of black areas that are stable.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 please rattle them off..
Smith .................. a very misguided man!
..... or very determined
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Ian Smith was right. He was never defeated but he was betrayed.History has proven you right Sir.
@Jan Pearson In particular he was betrayed by Henry Kissinger, who formulated the sanctions and as Smith relayed in a public speech, Kissinger had told him there would be no help from the free world only ever tighter sanctions until Rhodesia capitulated to the desires of these foreign governments.
Smith was never right. He refused to talk to blacks or Africans as he called them and therefore created a situation where the Africans went to war with him, forcing him eventually to the discussion table in the UK. He was defeated because he thought he would rule for over a thousand years, which he used to preach every time we listened to him. He left a dejected, defeated, and demoralized man, a condition which he earned for himself. Independence in 1980. was ultimately good riddance for that confused and arrogant man.
@@jaycee9752 And look at 'Zimbabwe' now. The only accomplishment they've had is majority rule, which obviously didn't work out for the poor sods. How sad it is when a 'racist', 'arrogant' and 'confused' man could run a country better than the people that supposedly owned it by right of birth. "I told you so."
@@Em-yd9jn Smith failed to build a United Nation he is no better than the current regime.
@@jaycee9752 yeah, and zimbabwe is doing so great now... please..
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