2020 Mr Olympia - Prejudging Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2020
- Breaking down the final callout in the 2020 Mr Olympia prejudging, featuring: Hadi Choopan, Big Ramy, Phil Heath, and Brandon Curry.
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Sorry for taking so long with this one... the video was done hours ago but I was having unprecedented technical difficulties exporting it. But we still got er out before the Finals kicked off, so better late than never!
It's all good brother
Always worth the wait
Appreciate the hard work. Honestly your analysis is so much more detailed and more knowledgeable than so many other RUclipsrs (and is so far beyond a certain NSP)
It was a good review so worth the wait! Thanks for purchasing the stream and giving us a proper review^^
Worth the wait, as so much better than your peers! 👍
Ramy could start his own airline company with those wings
What KFC airlines? They would have the most fatal take off crashes in their first week than all airlines through out history combined. Also his outer quads look like they escaped geometry class. He is the first bodybuilder I have ever seen to have a three sided outer quad instead of arc shaped. He is great in interviews too. I speak clearer English after 20 drinks than Big Ramy does sober.
@@Jolly-Green-Steve If only your sad opinion amount for anything 🤣🤣
@@mmjnr10 I'm ok with Ramy winning it just proves that the title doesn't really mean anything because the Olympia has always been a complete subjective sport where the rules don't really apply to anything because they can't stick with the same rule set for more than a few years. This year it's the mass monster win like in Ronnie Coleman days and mid to late 90's. the last two years before this it was all about who has the best abs wins. In Phil Heath's run it was all about perfect aesthetics like it was in Frank Zane's run in the late 70's. The truth is their is no clear winner every year when you get down to the top five because they are all pretty much the same and it is all subjective opinion. Oh and about your sad opinion reply...... SUCK A DICK!!!!
Tanya Loves Titties so ramy should stop training quads???😂😂 i dont think u understand how open class Olympia works
Ramy brought the best side leg I've ever seen
Shawn rhoden, Kai greene, Shawn ray all better
the guy has a fourth head of the quad from the side, unreal!
The quad separation leaves me in awe.
@@personalemail1632 the lack of quad separation you mean? oftentimes the upper part of his quads dont display anything. One of the best ever from the side tho
@@okankorad57 you commented on a side leg thread 🙄
It’s so close! I really want Ramey to win. He is looking th best he has ever looked on a stage. The other bodybuilders look like children compared to him.
I'm not a Ramy fan boy - although I like him. I always thought he would have to substitute a little size to get the condition needed for a win, but he brought both this year... a lean mass MONSTER! ... is that not bodybuilding? His quads are ridiculous
@@davebird8332 he reminds me so much of 09 cutler
reminds me of Cbum in he's a bigger guy and more conditioned, he looks like a superhero compared to the others next to him
Ramy always look big on stage, but this time he is in his best condition with big size. He made others competitors look small. Ramy deserve to be Mr.Olympia.
he won! finally he won!
2020 Mr Olympia Big Ramy!!!!!
It would really be a Cinderella story if Ramy wins it all. That would be pretty awesome
He should win tbh. Brandon lacks legs and Phil lacks abs. Ramy has the best combo of both.
@@Ikiendangi all true but I don't even think that it is just the abs that Phil lacks
@@syndicalistspeedsolver he severely lacks conditioning.
@Casdom Domcas So you want no legs or no abs to win?
@Casdom Domcas he literally has the biggest back just lacks lower lats and muscle maturity
ramy deserves the win from this pre judging IMO, he's just way too big and actually conditioned this time. Very surprising indeed, too bad no roelly for this comp.
His size, with never seen before condition is another level... he swamps everyone else by a long shot
@@davebird8332 if he comes in 280-285lb he'd beat everyone who'll try to play size game with him and lose bad.
Phil’s lats aren’t there and his mid section is spilling out again.. doesn’t deserve the win imo. Brandon looks great in most poses and his conditioning is alright but his hamstrings are tiny and overall I feel like ramy is more complete and his added muscle makes him the biggest on stage so I don’t see why he shouldn’t win
Big Ramy , Hadi , Brandon ( he forgot his legs at home ) , Phil ( the worse abs between the competitors this year )
I don't think Phil will be top 3, it's a fall from grace but there's at least 3 guys who look better than him this weekend.
Brandon looks good but his legs aren’t cutting it and his legs are no match for Ramy’s lbh.
Brandon condition really great but legs don't dominant, Ramy fully dominant. But both are better than Phil.
🤣🤣🤣
The others look like 212 competitors next to Ramy. Glad to see he finally brought it.
Which is good. Because this era is over. Im Glad that theres only one guy trying to be 300 lbs
No ...
@@giulianosbewusstsein Na, mr O is about size and should be able size, other aspects withstanding. If their shape is good and their conditioning more size should win.
I think Hadi had the complete package. Traveling last Minute screwed up his already insane condition
When the Egyptian Fisher man shows up conditioned
yes he is , Egy , arab and muslim
Hes a fisherman?
@@williamkelly5689 yeah he was
@@samysalem6575 cool
@@williamkelly5689 He used to be ..
Out of all the bodybuilding channels I subscribe to, this is the one I'm most excited when a new video is out! Keep it up man
Phil’s shoulders and arms are still crazy
Even his gut
yep but look at his lower body conditioning, lats got smaller, less 3D effect in his body except arms
@@ryszardpianecki1340 I agree. Not as dominating as he once used to be. However, I think if he was in his 2011 shape, ramy wouldn’t have beat him. Huge respect to Ramy, I’m glad he finally nailed his conditioning and actually brought something different.
@@colebrown7580 damn bro you didn't have to go till 2011 phil, that's over kill. I think shawn couldve given him a run, they're so different that either one could win on a given day.
That jaw-dropping size with conditioning to match, Big Rami is having the contest of his life, it must be his this year.
This is some of the best analysis of any subject I watch, not just sport. Great vid thanks 👌🏽
Ramy’s front lat spread looks like Nasser’s from 1997. With the huge chest and small waist
Nicholas Semmes facts,but guess what the reason nasser never 1 an olympia title was bcuz when he turned around that's where his weakness was same as ramy from the front amazing from the back average.
@@leonardomoore1868 yeah but ramy fan boys wont agree
@@leonardomoore1868 you’re wrong, Nasser al sombaty absolutely got robbed in the Olympia against Dorian Yates when he placed 2nd, watch the footage again, everyone knows Nasser should’ve won that one. RIP Nasser.
This one's for you Nasser rip
time is not a factor in my enjoyment of your videos. its one of the few opinions i actually trust. thank you very much for this!
Great analysis. You're naturally gifted in this sort of thing. Taught me a lot that's for sure. You could easily be a judge.
I agree. He is got good eyes for this. Judges very balanced, looks at details too but does not allow them to have lost the whole picture.
He should be on the panel.
Totally agree he is very knowledgeable about bodybuilding analysis! Really impressed!!
haven't watched it yet but im sure this is some great analysis as always. UPLOAD MORE PLEASEEEE
Thanks Tom, I've been really gassed for this one.
14:05 Phil looks at Ramy's quads and that moment it hits him. I could see a little "oh sh*t" moment for him
The look on Ramy's face just looks like he is giving it everything hes got.
by far the best breakdown I've been able to find today. great video.
I love Tomn8ers analysis....As much as I love Nick's strength and power..I'm not a fan of his breakdowns..A lot of times he's very vague and he can be biased sometimes.Still the best bodybuilding channel on RUclips
Winter has arrived for Ramy, happy he's in a good place mentally (maybe because of Dennis James), and it certainly translated on stage! If he holds this condition, it's lights out tonight.
Your analysis is always the best. Great video
Regardless of how he does, Ramy should be very proud of and happy with the package he brought here.
Phil “ pillsbury doughboy” heath
I see you everywhere all of a sudden haha
mmm
Philsbury doughboy 😂😂
Phil "who stole my abs?" Heath.....
🤣
If Phill wins, i'l never watch another mr Olympia again!
You think they care lol?
Guys come in better or worst at the night show , so you can't just count Phil out
@@noeg3853 Lol so Phils bell is going to disappear that's hilarious 🤣 😆 😂
Mr crinsane; you are lying to yourself and us as mr O is bigger than one person. Your a fan before ramy, and will be a fan after ramy. Mr wooly that’s some savage comment my guy lol. P.s Twice mina’s beauty rules okay!
@@danawooley9464 he controlled the midsection , is he going to win? HELL no , I don't think so but , you can't just discount him , like he didn't win 7 straight
Keeping my fingers crossed for Ramy! The guy deserves this one. He's just smashing it all!
I was waiting for your video lol thanks man
I always wait for your analysis. Other channels doesn't have in depth analysis as good as yours. Looking forward for your classic physique analysis too.
Marx Max Muscle goes into detail too
*Nick strength and power has entered the chat
@@philjohnson3490 As much as I love Nick..he's probably one of the worst when it comes to breakdowns and analysis....not that he's bad...but he's not as good as tomn8er
Brilliant once again Tom
Dont know why Ramy was changing to that latspread leaning forward. I think the leaning back was better
He did it to show the detail in his abs
yes i hope he fixes that in the late show. he would destory even more.
My thoughts exactly. His lats seem to shrink as he crunches down!!
when he leans back its better
@@victorprokop2240 IMO he still eins
Eagerly waited for ur video
I agree with your take on everything. Thanks for your videos
Marcus, I would love for you to check out my latest wrap on on the finals from last night. I would love to hear your opinion on what I said in my vid
I always miss your videos tomn8er
No one brought their A game? I think Big Ramy bring his A game, big time. He looks like he is in the best condition he has ever been.
I thought a lot of guys out of the top 4 looked really bad, Maxx Charles and others look like they're weeks out.
He did say, "no one brought their A game with the exception of big Ramy"
Bruh he literally said 5 sec later
@@MaestroJericho its the lightning
Hadi looks amazing!
Yes but he doesn’t win a single pose here. Puts him in 4th.Brandon in 3rd.
@@thebigpicture2032 Yeah, he surely does not win but I’m still impressed
Wins the lat spread and has the best quads of all competitors
@@thebigpicture2032 hadi should be 2
salute from a moroccan fan, love to see your videos
An objective and fair analysis, nice work.
man your clever your honest your saying the truth with no playing around...respect
Anyone else feels like Brandon's skin tone isn't doing him justice? We can't really see the details and separations.
The lighting on stage made it so that the darker you are the less details it shows. The 212 lighting was better
Been waiting 4 this vid
Was waiting for this one from you :)
I was waiting for this
9:20 Haidi has amazing external obliques.
Your video came up just minutes before Nicks strength & power. Im watching you first, thats loyalty
SO PERFECT MAN SPOT ON WITH THE COMMENTS!!
This one is so damn tough to call. As you said it's a case of apples and oranges. But I think it should go to big ramy. With all things 'equal', the winner should be the one who is the biggest.
Winter is coming!!! ❄️🥶
I watch Nicks Strength and Power and love the channel, but I must say, your video was a great analysis. Can’t disagree with anything you said.
Finally waiting for your video, you’re the less biased on youtube
Very good assessment.
All are happy to see after long time we got a real my Olympia physique that will remember us oldschool ompian beasts.🔥 ramy ✌️
Brandon's crab most muscular at 14:40. Hory shet. This used to be one of Heath's knockout shots, now I'm not so sure
Yup
can't understand why ramy started crunching his abs on front lat spread.. he looks way better without doing that..
My thoughts exactly. His lats seem to shrink as he crunches down!!
Maybe he’s saving the full spread for later, or at least will watch the footage and decide not to crunch
He did both the normal and the crunched down if I recall. He literally outsizes people both ways so I think its worth showing to the judges.
"I can crunch down on my abs and my lats still flare out bigger then these guys"
Fantastic Analysis as usual! I think this shows how utterly amazing Phil was at his peak. He would smoke this field of AMAZING bodybuilders easy from 2010 - 16 with the possible exception of 2014. It took balls for him to come back; if not his worse, it's very close & because of injury, it's time to move on to a new chapter. I think Brandon was somewhat flat to come in condition so expect a fuller, better version tonight. I suspect Ramy will come in even sharper. Phil can't come in fuller or his stomach will be worse but he does have some water to drop so I think he may be a little flatter but with more detail, separation & striations which will work to his strengths. I think it could go 3 ways with Ramy & Brandon having the best chances depending on tonight. I say that even though Brandon is likely in 3rd. Phil would have to solve the distention tonight to win but if Brandon fills up & looks crazy, he could win. I'm OK with Ramy winning but the larger hips & smaller arms from the front poses than early in his career; along with a somewhat long torso makes me want to go with Brandon IF - he can bring in a much fuller package tonight. The top 5 make this a super strong Olympia & if it had Rhoden, Flex & Roelly it would undoubtedly go down as one of the best of all time.
Man I’ve been waiting to hear your opinion on this
Man thats why I see the comparisons from you i was expecting more people to comment on the fact that Phil's side chest was perfect from the one angle and shit from the other angle
Although the way Ramy is hitting the front lat spread does not accentuate his lats I really like the fact that he is putting together a strategy.
With Phil returning they must have sensed that they will get compared and it was all about highlighting his definition through the midsection whilst exposing Phils biggest weakness
It would be great to see Ramey finally win and I’m really rooting for the guy. He definitely brought it this Olympia and it’d be quite a story based on the year he’s had
Thanks for doing this before the finals start, great review as usual. At this point, so many people have jumped on the Ramy bandwagon, I think the judges are going to feel the pressure if they don’t award him the win too.
Ramy front lats spread godly when he up is chest up not like he does now.
Overall great analysis, congratulations to ramy for the win, he bring winter early.
Ramy looks way bigger and better than the rest. We'll well deserved. Big congratulations.🌾🌿 ❤️💛❤️💛👍🏽
Could you make a video explaining how you judge? I'm new to this and trying to understand how it works, they all seem equally impressive, just different. So what do you look out for?
Great analysis as always, however, in my opinion of this lineup, Brandon's conditioning is arguably the best. I think how dark he is doesnt do him any favors in this lighting.
If Ramy doesn't win this, we riot!
lol Hell Yeah !
I agree with you Tom about the lighting, when they got to that third fallout with Antoine and co, I was thinking “where the heck is Antoine’s abs?” and I was confused, because Antoine stresses his conditioning so hard. Almost everyone in the Open looked soft in this lightning, I couldn’t see any ab detail in the FDB at all.
George Peterson looked soft, and he’s absolute nails every time he steps on stage, Palumbo even commented about it. And I wonder if it’s lighting more than him and his coach Justin missing the mark
The lighting was definitely worse than it was during the 212 prejudging. I did like the backdrop though, they kept it pretty classy.
Did you guys see Brandon's posing under the neon goon lights at the finals? That was amazing posing. Especially when he hit the front double with a twist, he looked like a classic bodybuilder. Followed by that awesome swagga walk out of the goon lights. I thought Brandon did justice to his title.
Ramy is looking insanely good!!! Phill looks good too, not as good as once but still a legend on stage
I jump and fanboyed like little kid during this Olympia, the best mr Olympia or the decade
I feel like Hadi is being let down by his forearms rather than his biceps. But either being larger would fill that space in the elbow.
but Hadi one of the most anesthetic body of all time in open class.
Nice analysis
U should do a video with mikey's iron rage i love your channels
Wow Tomn8er I was there when you got only few subs :)
This is way closer than people think. Ramy is not running away with it. Everyone just loves to hate on Phil.
C’mon now, Phil’s full lower body isn’t close to Ramy’s, his stomach is done and he wasn’t as conditioned.
@@yesno9834 Phil looks a lot more conditioned in the photos and cell phone videos. The live stream did him no justice. Look at his obliques. Btw...I agree Ramy is in the drivers seat right now.
RAMY IS running away with IT 🤣 phil will never try BB anymore
Because Phil has that entitled attitude that he deserves it all
Curry and ramy have phil beat in several poses. Phil will get 3rd this year.
Very happy to be alive to see this version of ramy
Great video
I could be wrong, but didnt they ban pulling your trunks up on the front latspread?
Phil isnt crispy like before his muscles looking like the 40 plus version of what Phil use to look like. BC still crispy and his seperations are clean overall balance is aesthetically still pleasant to the eyes!
Yea this is nowhere near the 2011 version of Phil. I’m not sure why we he came back. He had nothing more to prove. He won 7 in a row. I’m also over the whole dynasty shit in bodybuilding. If someone if off or getting beat, they should never win by virtue of the fact that they won the year before. That’s ridiculous
I haven't started listening yet BUT tonight they need to switch the lighting for how they had it for the 212 & Classic. They were so clear & I"ve got a Super HD 43 inch monitor with 10 different presets & it was difficult to see the fine separation, especially on Brandon, Bonac & Akim - the darker skinned guys.
Great analysis as always bro! Really want Phil to tie the record but I think its over for him :(
struggling seriously what contest were you watching! Phil should do classic looks little next to the bigger guys
Between Phil and Ramy. Brandon looks small and 2d next to these guys.
Unlike other channels, this channel isn’t biased which is a nice change.
I suspect Phil can improve a lot as he has done before. I think he still looks more complete all in all and providing he comes in sharper he’ll win
Really hard work has done by the Big ramy
Ramy looks amazing other than his wide hips. They kill his flow imo. Still very proud of what he brought.
He doesn’t have wide hips his waist just grew a lot. Look at 2014 ramy his waist was super small
@@kevinyak61 his hips are very wide. Look at the back poses (any year). His ass is just soo damn wide
Superb commentary as usual minus the blindness when it comes to assessing conditioning - Curry is definitely, DEFINITELY more conditioned than Phil. Ramy is also in a different stratosphere from Phil in terms of conditioning. Granted I'm in Orlando so this might be why, but I watched it today on PPV and looked at HD photos and stand by my in-person assessment.
Hmmm, Brandon perhaps was drier. But he has next to no separation and little definition; those things might not technically be construed as conditioning but they tend to go hand in hand. And Ramy had more sweat pouring down his torso than anyone, including Phil.
@@Tomn8er let's agree to disagree - but I'd say the results speak for themselves
Now this is some next level muscle
Brandon’s dark skin hurt him with the lighting this year! A friend of mine is at the Olympia and showed me pictures, close-up, Brandon is competing in every single shot with exception for the legs. That lighting washed him out like you said!.
Brandon has terrible hams and calves.
@@JerkVegas86 True. But not as bad as that Hamburger Meat aka Phil’s aGut!!!!!
💪 Great line-up, but I wonder how these competitors would compare with the aesthetics of say Frank Zane in the 1979 Olympia. Zane’s lines, midsection and conditioning were phenomenal.
Keep in mind, when Ramy is doing the front lat spread he is doing two variations of it. One where he is wide as fuck and then after that he transitions into this one that was showcased.
Knew it, believed it years back when i first saw Big R. That he will be Mr. O when he brings conditioning...well done...monster era back at Olympia...
Wrong, Brandon brought his "A game". this is the best he's ever looked.
Ramy is here looking like a volunteer kindergarten parent
enjoyed analysis! from these snaps Brandon was the pretty boy! the legs were drum sticks real shame. But very happy for Big Ramy. 💯
Rami's improvements have definitely propelled him above the other guys.
I like Brandon's flow. He just looks 'better' than the others in my eyes
Have you seen ramy holy shit he looked good dont get me wrong Brandon looks awesome but this is the best version of ramy ever
His legs are lacking so much and it couldn’t be worse when compared to ramy and Phil
I'm so glad Brandon Ramy and Hadi brought their A game to this to put cocky phil in her place. Phil looks the same with the gut and he was really talking down to Brandon but Brandon got him beat. They making this A hole eat his own words and it's so satisfying to see! What a great way to end this terrible year.
Hadi on the front let spread I can’t do with the point shoulder
I think he’s just so dense and wide, he should take both Lat Spreads.
Also, hey there Xavier. How’s it going covering the Olympia with the time zone difference?
Got Ramy based on this vid but of course difficult to see all details with the poor on stage lighting. Great vid as per 💪💪