The REAL Uncrowned Mr Olympias
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- In this video we examine some of the uncrowned Mr Olympias throughout the ages, as well as distinguish between the best bodybuilders to never win a Sandow vs the true uncrowned Mr O's, which are not always one and the same...
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One you missed is one you mentioned: Mike Mentzer IS uncrowned and it was for the 79 Olympia Zane won (no Arnold that year). Mike was the only one to obtain a PERFECT score yet somehow still lost. So I’d say there should be 4 on your list.
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The perfect score means nothing because it was in the heavyweight category, so he dominated over Robby Robinson not Zane.
Don’t forget that judging is subjective, a lot of people would hold zane in the late 70s over most other guys
Personally, I can't stand his gut. Especially next to Zane's vacuum. All those front shots go to Zane, and he was way more diced in the back.
@@aniqose6641 then Mentzer shouldnt have gotten a perfect score
I agree with you on Samir. He came into the 83' Olympia in fantastic condition. His back pose just blew everyone off the stage!...
Fox was bigger and just have good look at the pic of the side chest of Fox next Hanley , it was Foc was a bigger , harder version of Lee and Samier back was better but much.smaller and i thought i was going to be between him & Fox for 1 & 2
glad you put platz in. would've been sad to see him missing
Platz, Nasser and Victor. Great video Tom
Victor 07 is one of the best physiques ever
Lol no it wasnt
@@willthomas5953 subjective sport my friend, lets agree to disagree. Size, aesthetic, whole package.
@@alejandrorolon414 dennis looked better in 07
11:50 Ronnie’s legs are out of this world man
The year Markus ruehl made jay and Ronnie look small🔥
This whole physique is ugly as hell especially his arms
@@carlwethers1139 yep
The whole physique is ugly argument is dumb at the open bodybuilder level. All the physique have become ugly in recent years. Don't come tell me that Ronnie and Jay had beautiful physiques because it is not true. Size can't be the standard only when it is for the guy we like to win. Markus Ruhl should have won at least one Olympia...
@@RicardoSilva-hk2er the thing is that rhul's body was just a mess.
Kinan ْ Exactly he had no proportions, especially the biceps triceps ratio
Not going to lie, I don't like the concept of premieres. I got excited to watch the video and was disappointed when I realized I had to wait till tomorrow.
Agreed!
Fair. I probably won't do it very often. This vid took longer than anticipated and I like to be around for an hour or so after publishing to respond quickly to comments but it's getting late so figured this would be a good time to try it out.
That's reasonable, trying something new can't hurt. But yeah I think you got my point :)
One can only wonder how much Victor's life would have changed if he was not robbed at the Olympia in 2007.
Poor guy
His life was a tragedy. Even after leg injury he was coming back in 2011 and it was just a matter of time until he overtake both Phil and Kai and they sent him to jail.
After that it was all over.
I think Gunter Schlierkamp should have won. Victor 2007 easily top 7 physics of all time
It is hard to give Gunter the win with such a wide waste. Yeah, Cutler had a wide waste too. But his shoulders and lats helped create a better illusion of taper than it did with Gunter. Although, I don't think there as ever been a better bodybuilder to put on the cover of a magazine and saw, 'this is our champion', than Gunter. Even at 300 pounds, the dude's good looks and smile would have sold magazines to the ladies...or at least peeked their interest in bodybuilding. If the Weiders could have given the title to Gunter, believe me, they would have.
@@michaelr.4878 and with that colossal stomach on 2002 Ronnie, I don't think you can knock Gunter for his midsection.
Arguably he might not have deserved to win...but to come in 5th was a travesty, he was the peoples choice by a long shot.
SIenderplier gunter won NPC a month later i mean how does someone who they said was 5th place come a month later to defeat the mr olympia winner it's ridiculous
No way!!!!!! Obviously you must be bias! Judging from your RUclips name "analv" you must be from the same country or pay off the world as Gunter! Your a fan boy! Bias fan boy!
This was a great video. You're very objective and unbiased and have a vast knowledge of the history of the sport. I agreed with literally everything you said. Your channel deserves more views and more subs. I hope that you continue to grow.
I liked Gary Strydom's physique, I think he changed to the Vince McMahon series when he was peaking though.
Gunter for sure.
I was a big Flex fan, I was shocked he didn't win at the time.
Shawn Ray in '94 was definitely a robbery. He was at his all time best against an off Dorian who had a torn bicep and bloated mid section with obliques that were spilling over.
Nasser for sure should have gotten at least 1 Win! He had some amazing showings.
Totally agree with this vid. Nasser in '97, Victor in '07, and 81 Mr. O should've been different for sure. Debatable ones are '80 Mr. O, '02 Mr. O for Gunter, and you left out Shawn Ray in '94 Mr.O.
94?.😂
He mentioned Shawn Ray in 94 9:21
@0:05 look even better than flex
I like how flex was trying to put it as nice as possible then devolves into saying its bullshit.
Articulate, well thought out analysis as always! I low key prefer the Saturday, non-premiere schedule though.
Thanks! Yeah I didn't have time to finish on Saturday and just wanted to try it out. Based on overwhelming negative feedback I will try to avoid it in the future :)
pretty much spot on and objective analysis
Great review.
Unbiased.
Agree with Nassar and Victor all the way!!!!!!
Tomn8er u are the first credit that spoke to actual and factual I appreciate you you're the real one
So ditch the annoying premiere BS and you have the usual from TOMN8R.....top quality content..... review and honest commentary on some of the legends in the game......love it and keep it up - premiere lol
Pretty honest opinion, I have seen lots of channels but they do a little favoritism. Just great video man 👌👌👌👍👍👍👍
Victor, Flex and Nasser.. All uncrowded O.
Which year?
Vic in 07 ok
Nasser in 1997. Ok
Flex? Which year he should won?
@@vukdelic7000 1999
@@chandraprakashpandian no
@@onelesslonelymemer5863 hell yeah he looked phenomenal at 1999 Olympia
@@chandraprakashpandian he did but was he better than ronnie that night? Hell no not by bodybuilding standards and he was also full of oil
Pleeeeeeease bring back the Arnold intro..... You're videos are awesome and have really introduced me to a new amazing side of bodybuilding. You really analyze bodybuilding like a sport analyst and its so educating... Your Arnold impressio. Is just epic lol. Love from abia state Nigeria. Continue to inspire
Heiiii eiii youtube. That intro ruled. Now we only have the "i'll be back" at the end so sad
Marco looool, it was so fucking exagerrated and silly and funny. Truly sad RIP tomn8er Arnold intro
Nasser ❤️
As much repetition as it might be, always love checking in on this channel and seeing whats new. No bs news or drama of bodybuilding, just contests and critiquing. only place i disagree a little it putting platz and padilla on the same level that year. sure padilla is smaller, but absolutely perfect proportions balance and structure. Platz just had legs unbalanced to the rest of his body and conditioning. padilla all the way.
great vid
Padilla and Platz. Holy Moses I have no idea what those judges were looking at.
I don't even understand the comparison between Platz and Padilla. Maybe I'm a fanboy because Danny Padilla in my opinion is probably one of the greatest physiques in the 70s and 80s, but to me, the results of the 1981 Mr. Olympia is clear. Danny Padilla wins, Tom Platz placed second.
You're totally right....Arnold Schwarzenegger 1974 at his best and Danny Padilla at his best had the same physiques. Perfect. If you put your thumb on Danny Padilla's face you'll see Arnold Schwarzenegger's perfect 1974 body. Nearly.
Try it. Danny Padilla lost out on height only. What a beautiful dense perfect mass muscular body. Top bod.
Tom Platz is great too. One of the greatest....he ushered in the leg mass craze....after that came the gut mass craze....now bodybuilding has again reset to overall aesthetics.....Shawn Roden has no bulk and arms....but the beginnining of the no big gut era has just started. Let's hope it continues. Cheers....nice talking to someone who actually knows his bodybuilding : )
wow Tom you really out did yourself now awesome video as always
I agree with yours top 3 pick....buuuut, under that hat definitely goes Gunter against Coleman... he was bigger, more conditioned and more pleasing to the eye. I have never seen more dissatisfaction in the audience than then. And they were absolutely right. Other than that congrats on very objective opinion. Usually people either don’t know how the judges value physique of a bodybuilders or they are absolutely delusional because they favor someone.
couldn't agree more....gunter was ROBBED!!
Nasser?
That Flex Wheeler interview was so good haha
Jesus looking at Shawn/Phil at 9:06 versus 2018 it isn't exactly startling that Shawn won this year.
Back then he couldn't have even been in the conversation, but he's come up and Phil has seriously fallen.
Definitely big Ramy deserves 2017 Mr.O ✅
holy moly 7:45 this shot looks like an ART!
1979 Mike Mentzer
Damn, this was partially my idea for a video but it would take a lot of time so I only got to a few drafts and concepts :D There is a definite difference between Uncrowned Mr. O and best bodybuilders to never win an O!
Still, one day I'll make that video about who's the best Uncrowned Mr. O/BB who never won and this case will play a serious factor in the choosing process. I'm looking forward to see your vid man, imo the guys who were truly uncrowned are: Nasser, Victor and probably Padilla/Platz. Maybe Günther in 2002 or "someone" in 1980. The rest of the olympias were either clean or hard-fought battles between 2 or more guys with arguable results. But you just can't argue for Jay winning 2007 :D
Top10 who never won is a great idea, and that trio at 1:05 will surely take the top3 place. My pick is Shawn, he was perfection 12 years in a row.
Yup. Top 4 is quite obvious. And after 5-6 it gets a little tricky and subjective but I'll try to narrow it down to just 10
@@Tomn8er who's the 4th? I mean it's not that obvious it can be Kai, Labrada or even Gaspari.
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@@balintkiss8741 bojleeeer!
Nasser 🙏🏽
Great videos man. Your voice reminds me of Randall Park.
Agreed. However, you missed Shawn Ray
Right on point, man! It's annoying to read the typical ignorant comment "he deserves blabla"...
Mike Mentzer in 1979 got a perfect score and STILL got the L to Frank Zane. Totally robbed
Yeah finally a video about them!!
Solid as always!
Great video, again. (I'm for Padilla in '81)
great post and good well thought out opinion Tomn8er
very solid content here brother...def gonna sub
Platz/Padilla in '81, Ray in '94, Nasser in '97, Victor in '07, and.....that's it!
Great video love your content
Kevin in 1994 was an uncrowned Olympia bro
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I agree with you on Kevin Levrone
My God that pic at 2:50 is just Bodybuilding perfection i am a Kevin Levrone Fan but Yates had better Legs and chest and Nasser had a great Six Pack and chest. Phil Heath and Kai Greene should see this and cry.
Great video. Love all the pics !!
It would be awesome to do a quick run through of the mandatory poses for the next “Top BB to never win Mr. O” video :)
Keep up the great content !
Dude, at 34 seconds you can see all the insulin injection sites on Phil's abs.
You're really an ignorant one aren't you... That's not where you inject insulin, unless you are stupid of course.
xxBlade. You seem pretty dense because that is absolutely where you can inject insulin.
@@IamNotYourDad1234 you can inject it into the fat of the belly, not the upper abs you twat
Great video!!!
Poor Kevin Levrone, he had to compete with Dorian, and than Ronnie..... Tom Platz sure as hell, took that robbery well...!!!! That's what I remember about that one. I would have been uncontrollably pissed!!!!
I would agree with this video. As hard as these guys train and diet for a competition it is unconsciousable not to judge these athletes fairly.
guess ill be back in 10 hours
People always use that FDB shot to back up their claim that Nasser beat Dorian in 97, watch the prejudging and the individual posing routines and you'll see why Yates won.
Fantastic video
Hey Tom. Do you think Roelly is uncrowned Mr. Olimpia of 2018? Many folks see it so. and maybe in 20 or 30 years when you are old and grey, you will make another "The REAL Uncrowned Mr Olympias" Vol. II video and include Roelly there.
Love Roelly but def not.
Really think Platz should have won that year, he looked great and was able to achieve an upper body not dwarfed by his exceptional legs
Dorian was UNBELIEVABLE some years
As in amazing!;
Lee Priest was never allowed to realize his potential. I know that his mouth got him exiled, but he spoke and still speaks the truth. Amazing muscle bellies and size! Does anybody have any thoughts on this?
Agree up to 10;20. If you look at pics , video, and read articles from the day Chris Dickerson won that contest. If Pearl hadn't excused himself from the panel , due to his relationship w Dickerson , then Chris would have won .
Nailed the difference.
Gunter in 5th is probably the worst placing blunder in IFBB history. Or maybe Lee Priest at the 2001 or 2002 Arnold. The year he placed 6th. Absolutely ridiculous.
Danny Padilla was Amazing that year
I still find it hard to believe Flex Wheeler never won a mr. olympia. Ok sure maybe Ronnie's back was better or bigger but as an overall aesthetic body, he was so much better imho
Real uncrowned mr Olympias
Tom platz 1981
Shaun ray 1994
Nasser el sonbaty 1996/1997
Markus ruhl 2004
Victor martinez 2007
Kai greene 2014
My opinion
There are a lot of uncrowned Mr.O's during Ronnie Coleman's 9 in a row, a hell of a lot of them. The judges entirely changed the criteria to allow for mass with no symmetry and terrible piss poor posing along with not properly getting shredded like guys of the past (look at his gut its gross and protruding most of his career) overall a horrible look.
81 Olympia was the most ridiculous of all time
For sure, that gyno and the skinny 'refrigerator' leg were so bad!
Sean McGeeney and 1997
@@beerthug lol "refrigerator" leg.
great video except for the fact that naaaa Gunter was definitely ROBBED big time
Great video.
alot of the ones where people say a second place got robbed I'm like ehhhhhhh it could have gone either way
Well played.
Very good video.
GREAT GREAT VIDEO. congrats
Levrone use tho have a very good set of legs!
Love your vids but I dont think 97 was as controversial as u make out. Would love to see you do an analysis vid as you did for other olympias for 97. Sure he looks awful in that front double bicep pose, but from the back he was still very formidable.
Yeah maybe. Seems to depend what footage you go by. The snapshots from film make Dorian look much better than the still photos. I just can't get over the absolutely abysmal FDB. That's gotta be the worst single pose of any Mr O ever. Even Ronnie's AaT or Phil's FLS look great in comparison.
@@Tomn8er almost any pose from Chris Dickerson's winning year is abysmal to be fair. Just happened to be probably the weakest year ever at the Mr O!!
I know some ifbb judges that say Gunter should 100% won that
Gunter easily should have won in 2002. He looked like Zeus, at the Olympia. Easily.
Günther that is
Excellent showman, too !!
My list
Bob Paris
Kevin Levrone
Melvin Anthony
Flex Wheeler
Kai Greene
First time I ever heard anyone say Arnold was proportionate since his upper body totally overpowered his legs. As for his posing if you believe what was said at the time he never hit the poses requested & some say he was coached from the sidelines. His win was an insult to every other competitor on the stage as he was nowhere near good enough to win
You misunderstand. I wasn't suggesting Arnold was the best in all those other bodybuilding categories, but was just listing off some of the other criteria. I agree his proportions were always a little off.
How about everyone on the stage at the 1982 Mr O that was not named Chris?
Kinda agree with this. I also saw Nasser getting robbed at the British Grand Prix '96 (I was in the crowd), it was kinda obvious DY shoulda placed second.
Something happened with Nasser tho, his delts and bi's looked like they changed too much in a year or so, got soft rear delts etc so suspected synthol use I think went against him and may have been some of the decision making behind his '96 and '97 defeats (what kind of message can we give out to the BB community if suspect synthol use wins the Mr O. etc.)
I was in the crowd at the '97 British Grand Prix where I witness what I believe to being the best version of Kev Levrone period. It's not just me, its many other peoples opinion as well. Levrone at this outing (and other '97 grand prix shows) was just out of this world, he obviously didn't peak quite well enough for the actual '97 Mr Olympia outing itself.
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He was absolutely insane, and still to this day was the most impressive and complete BB I have ever seen at any show in person (had he shown up in '96 looking like this at the '96 British Grand Prix he would have wiped the floor with both Nasser and DY).
Obviously peaking for the right show is difficult and Kev peaked after the Mr O and not before.
What struck me the most about this particular version of Kev was his mass with insane conditioning, but.. the clincher was his back, finally it felt ON PAR with the rest of him, not something trying to keep up. It was thick, conditioned and WIDE, his rear double bicep really looked incredible now whereas before in other outings it was possibly his weakest shot. Incredible how peaking and all that other stuff ;) can change even how bodyparts look on the night of a show.
Naser against Dorian. That was the closest case I know.
Naser and Kai should be Mr.Olympia.
i think that there def is a case for dorian in 97 since he beat nasser in multiple poses such as the side tri, front lat, rear lat, back double, and could make a case for hi in the abs and thigh. this makes him the winner in 5 mandatories, destroying Nasser in the two backshots. Dorians arms were never his strong point either way so the arm focussed poses do not really affect him tbh
If Paul dillet had a good back and posing he would have been one of the best
Pretty sure Jason Genova is the real uncrowned Mr. Olympia.
1981 danny padilla
1982 frank zane
1994 shawn ray
1997 nasser
2001 jay cutler
2002 gunter
2007 victor martinez
That’s all
You should do a video on Gary Strydom
i igree. Tottaly agree.
The Mr. Olympia turned into a back competition. Who has the best back wins. Nasser should have beaten Yates. He was bigger and had better symmetry. Better legs too.
Great video, Nick would never make a hardcore bodybuilding video like this. I agree with everythinf, I am sick of people calling Ray, Flex, Levrone, Kai... uncrowned MO when they clearly didn't win any year despite being great bodybuilders. Just because you like a bodybuilder doesn't mean he is a mister olympia, try to be objective. I like the Physique of Charles Clairmonte more than Yates, but I won't bullshit how he is better
I agree with everything you said. There is only one guy and one specific year where I will use the term, 'Uncrowned Mr. Olympia'...and that is for Nasser in 1997. He beat Yates, hands down. Yeah, Yates had him from behind, but that was it. It was similar to Rhoden and Heath in the back department. That year, Nasser had the perfect balance of mass with aesthetic lines. How often have we seen a total monster look that good? But that is the only year I will use the term, 'uncrowned Mr. Olympia'. Even if Yates didn't have the torn up arm, I still would have awarded Nasser with the win.
Nick is more news/forgotten classic bodybuilders anyway. Idk why you're trying to make it a competition lol
@@adamokelley2616 He lacks bodybuilding knowledge. His videos are not informative. He just takes a braindead topic or a bodybuilder and just reads a wiki page of it.not hating on the guy, but his channel does not deserve to be the top one
@@Srbenda126 Nick's Fluff and Emptiness
Srbenda126 Its youtube channels who cares lmao
@10:49...look at that back
Nice video bhai
Mentzer, Martinez, Wheeler, Platz, Nasser Sunbati and maybe even Big Ramy. 2018 I would have voted Winklaar as 2nd the least and maybe even 1st