Jim Cornette on The History Of Scaffold Matches
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
- From Episode 214 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Unpopular Opinion: Scaffold matches are the absolute worst match type in wrestling history. Let’s watch guys awkwardly punch and kick each other for 10 minutes untill someone takes a stupid high bump. Hate it.
There was once a shark cage match. It's exactly what it sounds like, 2 guys trying to have a match in a cage that was at most 3 feet square. And the cage was so cheap that the door kept popping open and they had to stop an close it back up. It was fucking awful. Think it's on YT.
I'd go with blindfold matches as the worst gimmick match but scaffold matches are indeed the drizzling shits.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Also the Bungee Cord Match in Global. You couldn't see what was happening. They are lucky they didn't kill someone. It was high risk for low reward.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma xr=====
only the punjabi prison match is worse
@@Shaner373 TLC matches make a mockery of pro wrestling
It's probably for the best that Travis made a Trojan Corny instead of a baby being cut in half with a chainsaw
I figured Corny would be more of a Sparta guy.....more old school ;)
Travis hasn’t lost the mojo at all.
We can't be sure until he does some Tony Khan Adderall eyes. Ha.
@@Am0ment0fB Jericho is also a good test too. 😄
@@sameasme2 And Uncle Dave
The art style just fits better.
@@Am0ment0fB don't forget the Hardly boys, balding and pie face.
The point at the end is true of lots of modern wrestling.
People "saw something cool happen", and completely missed everything that led up to it. So, they try and recreate a "Best of the cool spots", without any substance or context to any of it.
Because modern fans enjoy the "car crash" type of match and boo any kind of "psychology" or even "logic".
There's a reason Vince Russo and "WWF Attitude" still has legions of fans.
- Superkicks
- Suicide dive
- Flippity flop to outside but land on your feet
- SPEAR THROUGH THE BARRICADE
- Pull opponent's head into middle / bottom exposed turnbuckle
- Roll up surprise win
- ???????
- 5 / TOKYO DOME STARS
@@sfpincchicago Kind of coincidental, mentioning Russo and WWF attitude era!! Something popped up online yesterday about V.K.M. giving Russo the Cold Shoulder!! " Damn bro, I was just calling bro, to say hello bro!! I was not looking for a job bro!!!"
@@louiscsanko3673 Read that. Total coincidence, promise!
As a 11-12 year old kid growing up in Houston who loved Mid South wrestling, the Midnight/Rock 'n Roll Scaffold match at the Sam Houston Colosseum was the most memorable I saw in person. Probably went 4-5 times in my childhood, but that time my brothers and I put the hard sell on my Dad. Seeing video of it now I realize it was the shits, but back then I loved it.
It was Lawler and Dundee vs Rich and Idol, it was a runner-up for PWI feud of the year, Dundee came in to help Lawler because he took offense that Idol needed help to cut Lawler's hair
We missed you, Travis!
The scaffold match in Dallas was the Fantastics & Steve Simpson vs. The Rock N' Roll RPMS & Eric Embrie. It was at the 1987 Parade of Champions show. Eric Embrie took the bump off the scaffold down to the ring.
And then XPW takes the "Scaffold Match" and ramps up the insanity level to 11 (See the New Jack vs Vic Grimes Scaffold Match).
Grimes is lucky he didn’t die on that landing. New Jack said he was trying to hurt/kill him.
Jim Cornette: "The fans acted like they were watching a baby being sawed in half." Perfectly timed ad interruption: 🎶"What a wonderful world."🎶 Dying here. 🤣
Ad for the t.v. show C.S.I. on mine. Doing an autopsy...kinda cringy....😂
I got a local personal injury lawyer and for a split second genuinely thought Jim was referring to a real event
I remember the Mid South Flair/DiBiase match. IT WAS GREAT!!! Still one of my favorites to this day!
Jim Cornette called that the greatest angle of all time. DiBiase's face turn.
Jim knows all about them matches lol
This wasn't the first real "scaffold" match, Nick Gulas had a similar match in the late 50s/early 60s but it was under a different name. It's funny because I learned about this on a Meltzer live appearance had in the early 2000s because an old time caller informed Dave/Jim.
Welcome Back Travis
Yay the good art work is back!
I saw that scaffold match in Dallas he mentions; it was Steve Simpson and the Fantastics vs Eric Embry and the RPMs
I remember Eric Embry lost a scaffold match in Dallas (80s) and they said that he broke his leg.
I remember one that Bill Dundee and Dutch Mantell had. Dundee whipped Mantell with Mantell's bullwhip.
Travis Heckel is the best artist of all time!
Best artist of all time? He gets the emotion and comedy better then the other artists. His thumbnails make me laugh for at least 15 seconds each one
Welcome back Travis, fuck these other hacks you the goat lol
Their shit is good it's just not what we look forward to
They were fine. Some were quite good, actually. I just like Travis' style for this podcast.
Lol that's the first word that came to my mind as well.. "hack".
I don’t know why they can’t each get a clip or two per show. Travis is great but so are the others and a rotation is fun.
Travis, Holy Smokes you've done it again... BAY BAY
I love Cornette's historical perspectives and expertise. Let's try to keep him off of "current events", so to speak
Travis! Welcome back.
I like the Ultimate X matches from early TNA
Good old days
Jim dressed as Spartacus is truly amazing....
Damn you gettin turned on or some shit?
"He didn't need to be in the successful ones. So they got higher" - Jim Cornette
Catch meeeeee. Bubba!!!!-Jim Cornette
😂😂
Is that Jerry Jarrett or Roddy Piper?
Oh well you know.
It's obviously Piper because he's not mentioned anywhere in the video so why not put him on thumbnail at least
Looks like Terry Taylor to me.
No wonder Jim hates the Klick. He didn't get to see the first scaffold match but X-Pac was there.
I've always wondered the difference of height between a scaffold match and a hell in the cell. Not to take anything away from Mick Foley but was that spot that special command to a scaffold spot? Seem about the same
With scaffold matches they fall from under the scaffold.
In a old-school scaffold match, they would do a controlled fall hanging under the scaffold by their hands. hanging under the scaffold cut the distance to fall quite a bit. Foley's thing was different because he was thrown off sideways from the top of the cage. The distance he fell was greater and the angle his body fell at was worse than any of the old scaffold matches.
@@Jim-Tuner ...and he didn't fall in the ring...
@@sfpincchicago With a chair landing on his face
@@bluemoon9773 The second big bump was when the chair landed on Foley's face. Jim Turner is referring to the "running leap" that Foley took within the first ten minutes of the match.
/CM Punk-level pop
Welcome back, Travis!
Basically my entire lineage comes from Missouri and its usually people born and raised there that call it Missourah
Travis does a fine job, but we’ve had some breathtaking art these past weeks and Travis alone just keeps getting mad praise in the comments.
Perhaps the minimalist cutout style doesn’t do if for me, but is there something I am missing?
If you don't get it then you don't get it so it would be hard to explain it to you. I can't imagine this channel without Travis' artwork. There's something about the wacky tone and funny nuances that just works perfectly with Jim's personality.
@@thomas_2285 I see, I’ve been following for many years and it is certainly memorable and ‘linked’ to his channel in my mind but I guess it just doesn’t strike the same chord with me as it does others. I certainly appreciate Travis work ethic and dedication though, getting so many pieces done every week.
Wish i could find cactus and embry where cactus fell and broke his arm ive only saw pictures
The ECW Between 1995 and it's sad Demise had everything that the 2 Big FEDS. were lacking. Great music, even though they didn't ask the Artists for permission to use it.lol!!!! Great storylines, [ Raven and Dreamers Feud over Beaulah in summer camp as an example. Even though violent Weapons matches, 30 foot falls onto tables and concrete floors was more the norm, they had guys like Lance Storm, a young Jericho, Malenko and Guerrero ( RIP) in some of the best technical matches ever. Order the Malenko- Guerrero Classics on R.F. Video. ECW had the perfect combination of everything, and the ECW FANS Were not easy to get over to. If the match stunk, the fans let them know it, and if one of the wrestlers screwed up, they got a huge " YOU FUKKED UP CHANT". It is in my humble opinion that ECW FROM 1994 Until it Closed its doors, Was the Greatest Wrestling Show ever!!!!
Oh if only we could have omegango back in time and fall of the scaffolding in Dallas 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is that the nature boy Buddy Landell?
I think it's supposed to be Jerry Jarrett
thank god for the travis artwork the other guys stuff looked unflattering to jim Travis art work no. 1
The new jack one is the best tazed the guy then threw him off
Need to find that Flair vs DiBiase match.
Its brilliant
never been this late
Good video, thanks
Jim, as a kid in the 90s I hated you, these days I appreciate and like you, keep it up mate!
Never really cared for these. Just didn't make sense to me conceptually.
Watching a scaffold match is like watching two gymnasts trying to share a single balance beam only even more awkward because the gymnasts would be trying to not knock each other off the beam.
Don't give Tony Khan any ideas.
Travis is baaaaaack
CORNETTE is WRESTLING
TRAVIS
2024
Memphis in 89 did Interesting idea with tag scaffold match. Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee vs. Austin Idol & Tommy Rich. They had side by side scaffolds so have more room for all four guys.
Welcome back, Travis! Looking forward to more pictures of Meltzer with his tongue out.
I love the road warriors scaffolding match
Fell from a height on a bump that wasn't that impressive and broke his arm... Where have I ever heard of that getting ripped off? ("Judas" plays...)
Imagine a Corny & ShitStain scaffold match. And the winner can go back to the past to change, what we have seen in current awful wrestling business. Corny is the face & ShitStain is the heel.
Bout time Travis is back. I am so sick of all that hack anime shit.
Was thinking the exact same thing. Not that it doesn't take talent to draw and such... But, Anime in general turns me off just because of the way it looks. Big eyes, sloppily drawn features, and a lot of the time the characters dont even really look like the person being portrayed. I never understood or appreciated that style. I overlooked that style in the Voltron & G-Force cartoons from the late 70's because the drawings didn't have as many over the top features but it was the seed that grew into ridiculous looking modern anime, so now I dont even admit that I used to like those shows because if someone finds out, they will almost invariably recommend I watch some Dragonball Z show or something like it.
Cornettius?
"Friends, Kentuckians, Countrymen...lend me your ears...I come to bury Cornettius, not praise him..."
Think I saw one in STL. Made zero impression
They should have had the battle royale on the scaffold. That would have been great.
Can we keep these style pictures, I’m not enjoying the new ones.
Corny!
Are you corny? Replace the c with an h and answer that for me, just for research purposes...
never been this early
Not what yer wife said.