How to Lean and Turn your Harley
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This video discusses common questions and answers to learning slow speed motorcycle skills. Learning how to lean a Harley Davidson motorcycle is scary for many riders. Learning how make turn your motorcycle handle bars to full lock is extremely challenging for most riders of Harley Davidson and Indian motorcycles. This video demonstrates a ten foot cone weave. The cone weave is also used with emergency threshold braking from thirty mph. Many riders think ABS brakes are the best way to stop in an emergency but actually emergency threshold braking is always more efficient. ABS brakes are a back up to proper threshold braking. Learning total clutch control with the motorcycle is very important as well. Raising or Preloading your motorcycle throttle with high rpms is not necessary and can burn your clutch and wear your brakes and rotors when using the rear brakes as a crutch to make slow speed u turns on a Harley Davidson or any motorcycle.
I just passed my written test ( I decided to get the learners permit this time because I'm basically starting all over again), and I have purchased a 2021 Honda 1100 Rebel but now need to take the endorsement skills test. Unfortunately I don’t have any friends (or even know anyone), that has a (smaller), motorcycle with a manual transmission that I can practice with or borrow for a short period just to go take the endorsement skills test. (The first time I took the endorsement skills test (1983), I owned a Honda 350 with a manual transmission and I had no trouble passing the endorsement skills test the first time).
Here's the situation. You and everybody else always keep talking and stressing the point about using the friction point and feathering the clutch and also about using the foot lever for shifting gears while doing many different maneuvers such as performing the slow maneuvering moves during the endorsement skills testing for getting your motorcycle license endorsement, or when counter steering and performing other specialized maneuvers etc..
But. What if you have a motorcycle such as the Honda 1100 Rebel like I do that has an automatic dct transmission and does not have a manual transmission and so therefore it does not have either of those two items?
So for example, what do you have to do to compensate for the lack of those two items when you go try to take the endorsement skills testing. It’s been over forty years since I last had a motorcycle endorsement on my license, so I’m basically having to start all over again from scratch just because the bike bug bit me once again (thanks to a close friend who let me set on his fully decked out Honda Goldwing 1200), - Yes, even at the age 74 the bike bug still bites (LOL).
Yes I’ve been practicing for those many different skills test maneuvers but with that automatic and without the clutch and manual gearshift lever I can’t seem to get those skills test maneuvers down pat. I come close, but not close enough to be able to pass each of the different skills test maneuvers in order to pass the test and get my endorsement.
So what do you suggest that might, will, or would help? But thank for the great training/tips video’s.
Really enjoy your videos. Learning a lot. Thank you!!! Wish I was closer but live near Indianapolis
Thanks
I just found your channel and sub'd. Can a person fly in and do you have bikes available for a class, or do we have to provide our own bikes?
Hello, Hope you will subscribe. Feel free to contact me for info on lessons, our information is located on motorcycledropguards.com
Do you disable the EITMS system? I would think that a stall would be caused if the system went active while doing these idling maneuvers.
I do not do anything to any bike i ride. Thanks! Train hard, Ride safe
What are motorcycle drop bars ?? Where do you get them?? Is that exactly what they are called, or is that a slang term...
Love your programing!!!
Thank you! They are called Motorcycle Drop Guards. You can find them at motorcycledropguards.com
They are used by law enforcement agencies all over the U.S. and Canada for training motor officers, Competition riders and thousands of Novice motorcycle riders all over the world use them to protect their factory parts while attaining advanced slow speed motorcycle skills. If you are looking at taking an introduction to slow speed skill training such as Ride Like A Pro or Pro Rider training sessions, lots of their students use them as well.
Thank you ! Great video , you make it look so easy . I am glad I found your channel ,you have a new subscriber as I want to learn more ! By the way , can I ask you what set up you have to make your rear tail light and rear flashers all light up as well as all light up when you do break and also they flash as you are breaking . I want to set up my 2014 the same way. So if you could please let me know and point me in the right direction as to wear I can get what is needed to do so.
I had a flasher kit installed. Dont remember what it was. Im terrible with anything other than operating the motorcycle! Lol
I am working on getting my 1st bike in 14 yrs. I rode a road king police interceptor for years before. I am in BCS about 1 hour and half from Houston. Where can I take your class?
Just send me an email. We will set up a time as i do lots of private lessons with folks who come from all over.
Good evening, I just wanted to ask, how far away from you should your handlebars be in order to be able to maneuver safely, at full lock?
U should be at a comfortable position. I try to be at 90 degrees and high up in the saddle.
Where did you get those drop guards from? I just picked up my first road bike, '21 Street Glide Special. Definitely a different bike from my dirt bikes. Your videos have been a HUGE help. Not only learning new things but even reaffirming things I already knew! Thanks!
motorcycledropguards.com
Love your videos. I am Struggling on my goldwing, 05 . Not sure what rmp I should be running at.
Its just practice with your clutch.
interesting. as a remote follower, I wonder where can I buy that procting pads around your bike. tks.
Motorcycledropguards.com
Howdy jay just found your channel ive watched 2 different ones like your way of explaining things and im big fan of "be the boss of your motorcycle" love what he shows and explain and i learned alot from him n i practiced every time I was out on (big blue) yamaha1700 n now ive seen you and you have answered some of my questions thx n right now im without a bike but ill get another one some how n soon lol and when I do im going to be hard at what you teach also im 60 been riding since 2007 thx for your content keep it coming
Thank you sir! Thanks for subscribing
gotta keep the content coming. This channel can be huge.
I really hope people listen to the rhyme and reason of your instruction
Thanks
Thank you sir! Not sure if we will be huge, but we will continue to try and help with training as much as we can!
yep…. you’re right. Gotta actually keep the content coming for the channel to get big.
Watching you is like watching a pro golfer!
Well there are a lot of great motorcycle riders out there who train a lot. I just do what i can sir to try and help with others with my experience as a police motor instructor and my street experience.
@@motorofficertraining man I would love to come down to Texas and train with you Jay. (Haven’t been there since 1990).. Oh well, the best I can do is keep watching ur videos and picking up tips as you suggest them, which help a lot.
How much do you backup the rode, when adjusting your clutch? Half, 3/4 one turn?
I dont do anything to adjust my clutch. I ride each bike as is.
New to the channel, just subscribed. Do you have any online classes that you sell?
Stay tuned, sir! We are working on providing a lesson plan to help share how I train my students to attain these Motor Officer skills quickly and easily at 18 feet dimensions.
There are alot of good reasons to visit Texas, taking your course is one of them. This technique is apparently so much easier on the clutch and brakes. Glad I found this channel because I do practice and the heat that comes off my bike ('07 Road King) is worrisome.
The throttle hand on the windshield is what caught my eye. TCC!
Thanks! Come on down anytime!
Clutch on any MC is the same exact one with a manual car. Very simple. If you don't know how to drive a manual car or have done it before, the question about clutching on MC may be making sense. Other than that, it is like a manual car.
During the cone weave are you looking straight ahead or at each cone?
Im looking through the cones. Thanks
Train hard, Ride safe
Here it is February 2nd and though it may be too cold sometimes to ride. These slow speed maneuvers can be done all winter.
Not much wind chill at 7 mph! 👍✌️
Well said!
hello … I see there under the Derbycover You have a guard or protector… Can You please tell me where this thing is to buy …? BR from Munic Bavaria
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thank You..
Sir, i just subscribed. 2002 heritage Softail, putting sidecar on for my great Dane. 2016 Road Glide special. I needed this. Mistakes oh yes. My first marriage. 😂😂😂
My Twin Cam does not idle that high
Neither does my M8 114. Mine idles around 900. Trying to do the TCC method without using any throttle did NOT work for me. I had to bring the RPMs up to about 1200-1500. I tried it with TCC and the bike at idle engine speed and it tried to die on me any time I engaged the clutch even slightly at lean and made it unstable/jerky. Bringing the throttle up a touch worked much better for me.
My 2001 flhtc does the same. Full open clutch and low idle= jerky and un smooth. Also carburetor not fuel injected.
Get the bleep out of here.... Incredible... Wow!
Lmao...im gone!
Hey Jay, I have the chrome drop guards as those were the only ones available when I ordered. Id like to paint them black to match the guards on my Street Glide ST...what paint do you recommend?
Krylon Black Gloss
@@motorofficertraining Thank you.
Drop guards for cruisers that aren’t Harley’s?
hey Jay, great well explained video.. pls keep em' coming
Thanks, will do!
Can you make a video doing the Illinois state DMV test exercise for small cone weave going into the half U turn, than stop in the box! pattern listed on the last page of the ILSOS.
I was surprised to hear you reading a comment I made month or two ago! Hopefully someday we can get down your way for a visit. I'm from Dallas and Arlington. Live in Iowa now. Thank you very much for showing us a better way! Rear brake already started squeaking at 3900 miles. 😢Maybe HPD can put a new one on for me? 😂Thanks again for all you do!
Thank you Todd! Train hard, Ride safe sir!
Can u post the video about how u use the clutch, throttle and brake? I looked but couldn't find the video with your instructions on it. Also I ride 2 up 90% of the time. I'm not a small guy and the added weight of my wife makes it more difficult to do u turns on a tighter radius. U have any info on 2 up? Tt
We are going to be doing that video as soon as it cools down here in Houston.
looking for ward to the 2 up video Jay.... I've been riding legally for 50 yrs but your way of teaching slow speed skills really make sense to me and I never really practiced slow speed skills until a year or so ago. Please, pls keep your videos coming. Very helpful, and of course I subscribed to your channel.
@@motorofficertraining
Thank you Jay for answering my question. It was very informative and helpful. I’ll keep watching, learning and practicing.
Sorry for delayed response! Thanks for watching
Hey Jay, first of all, Thank You for your service!
I found and subscribed to this channel about a month ago & have watched nearly all of the videos posted. I’m not a new rider, but definitely need to put these techniques into use more. I love the motorcycle crash guards!! And ordering a set this weekend for my 2023 Road Glide. Thank you for taking the time to respond to questions. Some folks don’t have the time to read through all the comments & I happen to be one of them. I’ve also recently found Jerry & Robert on the tubes and although they have slightly different approach to slow speed skills you all agree the use of clutch and turning the bars. Keep the content coming please!
Im glad you like the content! Keep training
One thing that helped me have better clutch control was getting rid of the stock self adjuster on the clutch cable. Much more of a positive feel throughout clutch lever travel, and more predictable clutch engagement zone in the clutch lever.
Jay, I did not know you had a channel and when I had the wonderful opportunity to meet you in lasts year nova rodeo in Alexandria, you didn’t mention it. Glad I came across it. And you are correct, the challenge I have with locking and leaning is dropping my ride and also getting injured. I am improving but have a ways to go. Thank you for the video; I will start checking out the others as well. Be and ride safe.
Hope all is well! Yes i always forget to tell folks about the channel. I hope you help share the channel.
Love your videos. Just wondering, what is your opinion on speed for these maneuvers. I've heard others stress that you have to keep your speed up. Anything less than I think it's 5 mph they say you have more force pulling the bike to the ground than forward momentum keeping it up. They claim you want to be between 6 and 10 mph, but I seem to struggle a little with that. I tend to try and peak at my speedometer instead of looking where I want to go.
We will cover this in upcoming video
Great techniques & skill level, your in the professional league! I hope to take your training sometime in the near future. I live in Texas as well.
Thank you!
Any time!
I subscribed to your channel because its a totally new concept to me , one day ill try it
Well, Thank you for subscribing! I appreciate that!
JAY! Great job with the video! When did you get Fast Johnny?
About 3 months ago...
@@motorofficertraining Beautiful Motor!
@@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned i like it
Is it a talk show??😢
Kinda sorta I guess! Something for everybody..Thanks for Watching!
Train hard, Ride safe
Too much talking. I wanted to watch how to do not listen to peoples questions. A shame the practical was ok but not long enough.
Well i try to give something for everyone and i receive a lot of questions from folks who want answers. We will do some riding stuff i promise! Thanks for watching
One thing I tell people practicing with saddle bags on is to lock them. If the bike drops hard enough the lid won't pop open then get scratched.I've seen it happen.
We have our students take them off
I've watched this video, on how to negotiate weaving your bike, to the point of nausium, I still don't catch much difference in the 3 different styles of handling. Not your fault that I'm not "getting it".🥺😫 Yes, I'm beating myself up emotionally as I text this to you. Doug🥺😵 Doug
Not sure u mean by the 3 different styles. Feel free to email or call if i can help.
@@motorofficertraining the 3 different types of style- means, a little lean, a medium lean & an extreme lean. Sorry I didn't make myself better understood when I replied the first time. 🏍️😲Glad to clear up my bad Grammer here. Doug