Slow speed u turns with Clutch Control made easy
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Learn simple clutch control that wont place ware and tear on your clutch, brakes and rotors and will have you making slow speed u turns in a controlled manner rather quickly. Using high rpm's of 1500-1800 and or preloading rpms may work, but the ware and tear they apply to the motorcycle is not necessary with clutch control. Slipping a clutch consistently on any motorcycle will burn the clutch plates, especially a new Harley with a cable clutch. If you are riding competitions, then yes, raising rpm's will be done when you are racing against the clock, but will place ware and tear on the motorcycle. But think about it, in competition riding your not riding a custom 30-50k Harley either. Most riders want to be able to make simple slow speed 18' u turns and 6' foot 90 degree pullouts in a controlled manner without ware and tear to their expensive motorcycle. The rear brake has its place but is also not needed to complete an 18' iron cross pattern, let alone a 22 foot iron cross. I am not saying there is not a time or place for raising rpm's or using the rear brake, especially if the motorcycle is about to fall over and you want to stand the bike back up. But if you have total clutch control and learn to use the throttle in the manner intended, then the ware and tear is not needed for the 98% of the motorcycle community wanting to be able to make slow speed maneuvers in crowded parking lots or being able to turn around on a confined 2 way roadway. Make sure to comment, share and subscribe for more upcoming training videos and how we train and ride out on the streets.
I've been riding over 20 years and I constantly practice but the way you make those tight circles so effortlessly makes me feel like I just started riding...
Hello Steve, anyone can do this, its just practice and understanding..Thanks for watching and hope you will subscribe, share and help us grow to reach more riders.
Jay’s techniques greatly lessen the wear and tear on your machine but to master TCC (total clutch control) takes practice practice practice. I started with Jay in April of last year and by the middle of Summer Jay had me riding motor officer patterns which you will not be able to do well with the throttle set at 1800 rpm and you’ll be replacing your clutch. You’ll know you’ve got it when you don’t have to think about it. Your motorcycle becomes an extension of you. Did I mention it takes dedication and practice? Every day.
Thanks Jay!
Thanks Greg! You did awesome
So basically just stay in the friction zone?
OK I finally did my U-turn and two car links. I was scared but I turned my head and I did it. Thank you
That's awesome! Keep working on Total clutch control and proper throttle engagement and I promise you will see the difference.
Open and closed clutch is confusing terminology. It’s engaged or disengaged.
100% logical! I never understood forcing components to work so hard against each other while maneuvering. I'm glad I found your video that I'm not the only one thinking this way.
Thank you sir! Yes, it goes against everything that is being taught on other youtube channels but we are seeing others now saying rear brake is not needed and that it can be done with only clutch. I have been teaching this method to students for over 10 yrs and they pick it up much more quickly and have more control, and less wear and tear. Im just glad to see more folks training!
Because there are plenty of different motorcycles and road situations. The approach shown in this movie works. But it works for this particular motorcycle with a huge torque engine and for this specific perfect environment where the pavement is perfect and nothing is going on around. It's enough to replace the motorcycle with less powerful which easily starts jerking and the game is over. Besides, in the case of an uh-oh moment, again, you can't instantly straighten up a motorcycle by releasing a clutch or rear brake. Instead, you must turn the throttle and pray. So the combination of increased RPM, friction zone, and rear brake makes slow-speed maneuvers much safer in real-world conditions and regardless of the motorcycle, you are using. The clutch-only technique is useful, but it doesn't mean it would work in all circumstances.
Hello Alex, thanks for watching and your reply. Definitely give me a call or email me sometime, a call is better. There is quite a bit of mis- information in your response and i love to talk training with folks. Train hard, Ride safe!
Jay
This is the best video yet from all of your videos because you’re talking through exactly at each point where your disengaging and rein engaging the clutch. Thanks so much.
Nice work! Almost identical what we get taught as police motorman
@deltaecho5221 except its all total clutch first to do the motor officer patterns, then u get to add throttle and then rear brake. Train hard, Ride safe
What a wonderful technique. I find this to be very helpful.
It makes a huge difference when you develop your clutch control prior to proper throttle engagement and proper use of the rear brake.
Thank you for this video. I haven’t been able to ride a lot in the last few years. I started watching YT videos, and I’m seeing all of this clutch, hi rev, rear brake technique that seems overly complicated. What you’re teaching is how I learned. I’m glad that I haven’t been doing wrong for the last 20 years.
Thank you sir, for your great tutorial. It's a real eye opener. You not only give us your views on how to make a u-turn with the bike, you also show how it's done. As with a lot of things in life there are more ways than one to do something, but this is a very logical way to approach it. It's certainly worth practicing and doing in real riding conditions, not only on some parking lot. And if I practice it a lot, it will become what the Americans call "musclememory", very useful in staying alive and keeping the bike and myself in one piece. Thanks again for sharing, greetings from The Netherlands 😎🇳🇱🇺🇸🇳🇱🇺🇸
Thank you sir for the kind words! I hope you will subcribe and share us with your friends. I am trying to make it as clear as possible as to how total clutch control is really that easy to learn with proper throttle engagement. The use of applying brake pressure and raising the throttle to 1500-1800 rpm is a really good way to burn brakes and clutch plates over time and in many cases in a short period of time for many. I have seen many motor officers have to replace brakes and clutches because of that type technique. Proper clutch engagement with proper throttle engagement is the correct way to use any clutch, car or motorcycle.
Jay what your teaching is truly a game changer!! It’s another tool in my riding/teaching tool bag. Your demonstration shows how TCC(total clutch control ) is more efficient than having the engine working hard and the brakes heating up. TCC will lead to total control of your bike when riding slow (which is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of riding a motorcycle).I believe from looking at some of the statistics in MVA’s with motorcycles there is a lack of understanding of how to handle a motorcycle at slow speeds(who I was once ).Of course the rider needs to master that clutch engagement,slow and smooth to allow the stored energy to be released and become kinetic energy . Once I started using this technique I was amazed because it’s not taught that way. Thanks for engineering your drop guards and demonstrating your TCC technique
Thank you sir! Hope you will subscribe and share
Jay, this is a great refresher video from my lesson with you last year, man it’s so easy to go back to bad habits. Got my seat back today from Russell Day Long Seats & had them raise and move me forward in the saddle, really great slow speed control now. Practiced this evening & without any throttle or clutch, was doing 18’ u-turns right away, even took my right hand off the accelerator completely (still holding the handlebar, just not the accelerator) and let the bike do its thing by leaning and locking the handlebars. Of course my instinct is to slow down and try to control it but I put my faith in the technique and Red Mama did her thing, & she didn’t let me down, literally nor figuratively.
your video's are great i ride a 97 Electra glide and the more i pay attention and try they all work thank you... learning and putting faith in trying makes all the difference
I just came off of a 07 shadow 750, on to a 97 Electra Glide and this thing's a way different animal than what I'm used to
I can personally testify to the benefits of Jay’s techniques. I have been riding tight cone patterns for the past 3 years using the throttle , friction zone, and rear brake techniques. I went through 3 clutches and 5 sets of rear brake pads in 25k miles. Then I discovered Jay and his no rear brake videos. I tried them and discovered that I was using the rear brake as a crutch and it was limiting further improvement. So i decided to learn the brakeless technique. It took a while to break old habits and learn to do the patterns brakeless. Additional benefits are that you have to be more deliberate with your body position, head and eyes to perform the maneuvers brakeless and you learn fine control of that clutch and throttle. Later, if you get this technique down you will be able to do even tighter turns and circles than you before with the brake and if you are in a tight space, you will only have to use the rear brake for speed control.
It doesnt take long to learn it. We are going to break it down even further in the next video. Thanks for your support amd make sure you share us with others.
@@motorofficertraining I know its probably not that hard if you start that way. What I was trying to say is learn brakeless first. If you start with dragging the rear brake, it becomes a crutch AND a habit that’s hard to break. And if you are currently doing the slow speed stuff dragging the rear brake…STOP… and start practicing brakeless. And BTW….all of the civilian motor schools; as well as competitions, are now incorporating brakeless into the curriculum. There are currently no Motorcycle Clutch Guards or Motorcycle Brake guards available so do brakeless…..✌️
@@motorofficertraining WOW! I'll try your techniques. Like you said, I was watching other videos on friction zone, throttle, and rear brake.
@@haroldyazzie3538 As old-slo-locked-n-leaned stated, Training schools are starting to incorporate this technique, though I don't think I have heard of any course teaching just total clutch control from the start. As a police motor instructor for a large agency in Texas, I hope they will incorporate it because with the right process students learn to control their bikes quickly with proper clutch and throttle engagement, without the wear and tear . I have been using this technique and teaching this for many years but glad to see it's catching on. Train hard, Ride safe!
This is next level clutch control skill that is very valuable in learning to master slow speed skill
This is what i taught beginners for over 10 yrs. Its correct technique and it works amd you are not placing the unnecessary wear and tear on your bike.
This is revelatory; thank you, Jay! You've helped me immensely in the few back-and-forth comments we've had on RUclips, and I'm so grateful you did a lengthier instructive video. Your teaching style is plain-spoken with no fluff or complication, and that's incredibly helpful. For instance, for about a year, I was on the "1800 to 2000 RPM" train, but when I watched a video of you in a parking garage, I was so impressed I asked you about your RPMs. You told me how low they were, and for months I've been practicing getting them consistently lower (I'm generally around 1200 now, but still fearful of dropping my '21 Street Bob at anything lower). But this technique of essentially doing these maneuvers at idle has me so friggin intrigued, I can't wait to practice this weekend! Thank you again, man! 🤘✌
Peter, I'm glad i could help. There is a time and place for raising RPM's and rear brake use among other techniques, but for slow controlled u turns and such high rpms are not needed. I will be discussing this in a new video im working on.
@@motorofficertraining Practiced this weekend, Jay, and what an eye opener! Thanks a million! I was nervous at first because my Street Bob idles between 800-850, but after a few minutes on Friday afternoon, I was doing exactly as you instructed: no throttle, pulling the clutch all the way in to turn (which, wow! REALLY gets to full lock quickly), and focused on momentum. After about 20 mins, I went back to the "usual way," but even then, was able to run around 1100 RPMs, which was a huge improvement for me. Spent about 45 mins practicing again this evening, and it was even better. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us because, as far as I'm aware, you're the only one. What a gift!
When I took the basic riders course at gaston college, nc that's how they taught us, good instruction video
Thank you ! Practiced today without loading the throttle , works great! It takes the other steps ( rear brake , throttle)out of the equation . Thanks again!
Im glad you experienced it for yourself. Just keep practicing and hope you will continue with us, subscribe and share to help your fellow riders. Train hard, Ride safe! Jay
Excellent video! KUDOS!
I've never been a "professional motorcycle policeman," but I began riding dirt bikes when I was 11-12 years old (I'm now 68), and I learned the absolute Importance of "keeping my center of balance in the center" and "clutch control" on the dirt course! It helps a lot to keep you from getting all banged up after a fall!
After I got my driver's license, I've been using those same techniques "balance, clutch, & speed control" on my motorcycle ever since on the street course. It's even more important on the street! Because streets are paved, and "if" you fall on pavement, your body takes a beating! I don't know about anyone else, but personally, I don't particularly like "beating up my body," especially because I know that simple basic "COMMON-SENSE" is going to save me a lot of pain!
And even though I've been riding legally on the roads for 52 years, every so often I turn into a big open parking lot and do some "figure 8's" and "circles" in each direction just to have a little fun... which also serves to give me some "practice" on my turns, balance, and clutch control! And those techniques are not just for in parking lots doing figure 8's and circles!
I use those same COMMON-SENSE techniques on every road I ride on, at stop lights and stop signs, and they are especially helpful for avoiding obstacles in the road, and even finding a parking space and "maneuvering" my bike into that parking space in such a way that I don't have to "fight with my bike" to get back out of that parking space!
I weigh 200 pounds, my bike weighs 800 pounds, I'm 68 years old and I don't have the strength that I had when I was 20 years old! Thank GOD that I have the knowledge combined with 57-years-experience on how to handle my bike with "balance and control" rather than "brute strength!" Because if I wasn't capable of handling my big cruiser correctly and safely, I would have to give up riding motorcycles! And that's just NOT on my bucket list! At least not for another 40 or 50 years! (wink, wink)!
Just bought a Electric Glide after riding a Yamaha Roadstar for 18 years. I find the Electric Glide much harder to handle. Going to practice what your teaching.
Yes, I completely agree with you. This is exactly how I learned at the first time. Clutch opening will be replaced by the opening of the throttle. That's the way should be. Thank you for showing to everyone.
Thank you sir! We are trying to help more and more so please share our channel. Train hard, Ride safe
@motorofficerskilltraining I will, and yours is just so simple. I wish I am close by with you. :) we can have fun on mc. Take care
Never thought of it this way. Excellent. I'll be trying that soon. I'm 72 years old, 56 years on two wheels. Never to old to learn something new.
Absolutely
God bless you!
Beat you by one year, and I'm still riding. But a lot more careful than I used to.
73 here, and still learning. Pre-loading with too much throttle never felt good to me, I like your method the best for slow speed turns.. Thank you for a great video!
This is fantastic!! I've always been taught the throttle, clutch, brake, friction zone method. Yes, it works, but I was also concerned about premature wear and tear, but didn't know any other solution. This is PERFECT because I just bought a new Gold Wing. I have been able to turn my cruiser on a dime, but the Wing is a whole new animal, and I'm really struggling with slow speed stuff because of the sensitivity of the throttle and clutch. My cruiser had a much bigger "slop factor" with the throttle and clutch. Now I need to go find a good place to practice after I wrap my bike in bubble wrap. LOL
I had a goldwing for many years, the techniques work the same.
@@motorofficertraining Ya, the techniques are the same. It's just getting used to the totally different feel of the bike and working up my nerve a bit more...LOL
@@motorofficertraining Great instruction!! In which gear would you have done these maneuvers on the goldwing? Thanks!
I just took a Ride Like A Pro course and now, seeing this video, I feel like your approach is much simpler and easier on the bike. Can't wait to try this out in the parking lot - after I install my drop guards :)
Many thanks Sergeant, you're a credit to the community. Thanks for sharing your expertise
Wow I really enjoyed watching your video I found it to be very helpful I’m taking my riding course in 2 weeks I already passed the e-course and got my certificate. Thank you really appreciate your video great job 👍😎🙏
Thank you! Hope you will subscribe and share to help us continue to do this for folks! Train hard, Ride safe!
Excellent explanation, congratulations on the video and thanks for sharing your technique.
Half clutch, rear brake pressure, accelerator at 1500rpm = Extreme wear for sure.
I'm from Brazil, 58 years old, now Electra Glide.
Congratulations.
Its not that extream on newer bikes, its a wet clutch it can handle it, but good to know regardless
Thank you! A wet clutch will also burn with improper clutch and throttle engagement. Low rpm's are not needed for controlled slow speed maneuvers, even with new riders if they are taught properly how to learn it.
Having constant power to the back wheel actually is helpful to pull yourself out of a sudden lean angle.
Absolutely, when needed it sure does. But remember high rpm's and rear brake are not needed for slow controlled maneuvers once TCC is accomplished.
Is it safely the best video I have ever found. I don't know how I missed something so simple and till I watched you clutching. I guess I never really thought of the clutch is that kind of controlling for some reason
Most use high rpm's for fear of dropping and damaging the motorcycle, that's why thousands are using Motorcycle Drop Guards to remove the fear or concern of dropping the motorcycle. Once a student sees their bike is protected its amazing they can focus on learning total and proper clutch and throttle engagement without the unnecessary wear and tear 99% of riders place on their bikes, especially over time.
Thanks Jay, good video! Never liked the friction zone method. Been riding for 50 years and just doesn't seem realistic. I did try it with some success, but why tear up your equipment. TCC makes way more sense.
Amazing and looks so much easier.
I will be in the Walmart parking lot tomorrow morning at 0600! It’s an everyday thing of late. I’m very excited about trying your techniques. Too bad for me I’m in Tennessee and you’re In Texas……
Let me know if you have any questions at all that i can help with.
I am also in Tennessee what Walmart are you talking about? Always looking to practice..
Amazing!! I’ve got a lot of practicing to do. Thank you for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Well done! Nicely explained. Please continue to expand on this and do more videos and more slow speed maneuver tasks like cone weaves with explanations and instructional breakdowns. PS -I got my drop guards! Now I'm just waiting for the backordered saddlebag guards to come! LOL
Thanks Bill, I plan on making some new videos. Please make sure to share the channel with others.
I like this technique.
Luv how u say it's not the 'only' way, giving credit to all other instructors, but by far this 'no clutch' and tcc is the best/ safest for low speed maneuvers. I have improved greatly going from 3 parking spaces to 2 in uturns - very satisfying.
Maybe worth mentioning not foolproof, especially uphill turns where power is needed- but very gd instruction.
Thanks for the kind words sir! Train hard, Ride safe
That's just it! Learning total clutch control, then adding proper throttle engagement, those uphill turns or start offs are easy without having to sound like you don't have control!
Oh wow Jay! This is definitely going to challenge me! Looking forward to your next video! 😊
Hello Karen, Glad you are practicing. We are definitely getting our videos ready to go finally on a regular basis. Make sure to share with others to help us grow to help others.
I like this FAR better than using the rear brake. It doesnt feel right to accelerate and use the rear brake.
The rear brake has its place.
THANKS FOR YOUR DEDICATION,
Very insightful. Thank you so much.
I just bought my first bike last week. This is definitely good to know. Good stuff 🤔. I got some work to do. I can jump on my bike and go. Anybody can do that. It’s those slow pace movements that take people out. You REALLY have to focus on what you’re doing, in order to not drop your bike.
You can do it!
Hey Jack, that was just amazing to me and maybe the first time an instructor say and demonstrate this technic really works. Thanks a lot! Go to practice now,
Glad it helped!
Love these concepts with TCC. Have an 09 Electra Glide Classic and bike idles really low, so it feels as if it's going to stall without throttle added from the start. I'm going to try the add throttle at the same time I open the clutch.
Thats all ya gotta do! Train hard, Ride safe!
You make it look sooo easy!
It is! Students are making u turns with TCC within 15-45 minutes all the time. Train hard, Ride safe
Thank you for valuable information
My pleasure
Agreed with everything he is saying
I wish I could LIKE this MORE than once 🤘🤘
LOL. ME 2!
I am confused Jay because both Jerry Palladino and Robert Simmons who are both retired motorcycle cops and have amazing YT channels teach riders to preload throttle at about 1500 RPMs, combined with using friction zone (clutch control) and rear brake. I am way more concerned about safety than having to replace clutch plates. So my question to you is what are cops taught when learning to ride? Are they taught the methods that Jerry Palladino & Robert Simmons recommend or your method which also makes complete sense? Just curious why two different schools of thought regarding low speed maneuvers and which method is taught to motorcycle cops who are some of the most proficient slow speed riders in the world. Thanks for another great video.👍
Great question! Long answer. Stay tuned for upcoming videos or refer to the U turns made easy video with Total Clutch Control where I briefly explain the basic reasoning, technique and beginning benefits of learning TCC first and then adding the proper throttle control and rear brake as needed. If safety is your concern, then the answer is simple! Learning and mastering TCC first, then learning to use proper throttle control with the fact you have total clutch control itself would tell you that you have developed more control just with those 2 alone, not yet considering learning proper use of the rear brake when needed. I will discuss this further in upcoming videos.
Thanks!
Train hard, Ride safe
Jerry makes it look like figure skating. TCC !
I like using the clutch man just because of my dirt bike experience. Wear and tear on the clutch is what makes everything fun on a bike. If you’re afraid to change the clutch out then drive a prius
I don't like spending money on replacing things that don't need to be replaced. But hey if you got money to burn, I could use some new tires. LOL Train hard, Ride safe!
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
thank you.
It works yes sir thanks
Awesome Boss!! Please keep it up!!
We are trying! Hope you will subscribe and share.
I need your class, I’ve never ridden before
Hello from motogymkhanaKyiv! Good idea to teach doing it without using brakes/clutch, The only thing it will work on stock RPM if bike has just enough torque and power not more and not less. For example on my old 800cc suzuki it is impossible without rising rpms a little because the bike will fall. I'm fully agree that it is a good instrument for the rider but imho technic with clutch/brakes is also necessary because it will cover more situations on the road and bikes which don't have enough power.
Yes it has its place!
Thanks a Loft; a suprume knowlodge and training 👌👏🍀
Thanks
Excellent video. Thank you. God bless.
Thank you and you too!
Are you using the gray area in the turns or full clutch open?
We will be doing a follow up to explain even more
Thank you for this video. You've provided a lot of great and useful information that I've not seen elsewhere.
Thank you! I am now seeing other RUclips channels revising their takes and now talking about not having to use the rear brake, and not having to raise the RPM's to 1500, 1800 or 2000 as they have in the past. Total Clutch Control (TCC) with Proper Throttle engagement is all you need to use.
Nice
Thanks
good show mate loots a great stuff in there 👍👍
Thank you! Hope you share!
Great video Jay
Thank you sir!
I am looking forward to try it. Simple question: when you open up the clutch in u turn, do you open it fully or in friction zone?
It's a slow amd steady controlled opening.
Hey Jay , inspired by your tcc , I tried ttc, total throttle control , 18 ft figure 8 , no clutch , no brake , mostly on idle and use tiny bit of throttle when I felt like bike tipping over , that's it
Hello, thanks for.watching amd hope you will subscribe! When u feel like the bike is going over engage the clutch a little more, add a little rpm, and apply slight pressure to the rear brakes. You will feel the bike stabilize and no younare using the clutch, throttle and rear brakes properlynas needed. And u have applied little wear and tear to your bike. It takes practice and not once a week, but daily to until u get the skills and then you have to maintain them. Train hard, Ride safe!
Makes total sense. Thank you
For easy controlled slow speed maneuvers its all ya need with just very little throttle. Now racing through cone patterns for time is a different animal, but most aren't wanting to do that on 35k Harley.
this is awesome! reduce variables.
It has worked well for many that come out and ride with me..
Great video. Thank you.
You are welcome! Hope you subscribe and share us!
Thank you, great video something to work on TCC.
Thanks
Been riding for decades but this is a complete revelation to me. How can I get in on your lessons ?
Just give us a call!
I am going to try this. I was using the friction zone method on my Road King for a while in a parking lot and after my clutch was making noise as I rode the bike.
High rpm usage will wear the clutch
Problem with this is your using speed to keep the bike up.
You beat be very comfortable with speed and tight turns or you'll lay it down.
Preloading is better .. rpm just over idle covering the rear brake and use the clutch to control speed
I don't see wide open clutch as slow speed .
Bikes in bits at moment ill be all over this when back together!
Saying total clutch control i understand . Now going from a cable to hydraulic could be a little transition , also going to a bigger bike . Some riders say no difference , i do not buy that . Its some getting used to .
What rpm is this bike at idle?
I wish i would have seen his hand on the clutch to see how he disengaged and engaged.
Very interesting! I like this!! ❤
Thanks
I am going to have to head for the parking lot again and see where my RPM's are at without touching the throttle because my 2017 Road King don't move real fast at idle speed.
When leaving my driveway I have to turn past the front of the car and between the car and fence with not a lot of room to spare to go out the driveway and have had to increase my RPM's to keep from tipping into the fence or my car.
I've gotten rather good at this due to having to dig around in my pocket while leaving my parking lot to find the gate opener lol
Great videos, I've been practicing a bit but find myself reverting to the throttle (1500-1800ish) and rear brakes and I do fairly well. My bike has a heavy cam and a distinct lope at idle/low rpm. Seems power is not constant/steady and fluctuates to the rear wheel at or near idle. Any suggestions and recommendations for a work around?
Great video. Do you lean into the turns aswell or away from the turn
The bike turns under you. Do not shift your weight
Best training is getting out in the dirt on a lightweight enduro for a year or two. You will learn everything you need to know. Body english clutch, brake, throttle control, and respect for your motorcycle. You drop it you pick it up and keep going. Watch some videos on clutch brake a throttle operation, too. Also, leave the attitude at home it has no place on the road. Be respectful to your fellow road warriors.
I am a "new"rider. I actually got my driver's licence 20 years ago, and then never had a motorcycle to ride. I started, after those 20 years, only 3 months ago. So it was my life dream coming true...and I am terrified. I fell already 3 times, or better, the bike fell, I stayed up straight, because I was basically standing still when it happened all three times. It was always when I tried to turn in a tight space. Now I am so scared to have the bike falling again than I do not lean even that tiny bit that I learned after practising in parking lots. On the street, I am scared of turning left or right, because to turn I would need to slow down a lot and I believe that cars behind me will run me over. As conclusion of all these fears accumulating, I am not enjoying riding anymore, I am just scared, and the more I get scared, the more I want to slow down, and viceversa, the more I feel I need to slow down the more I get scared something will happen. After risking to completely crash when turning at a crossroad yesterday (panicked, gave throttle, the front wheel started to go left and right on its own, no idea how I managed to stay up) today I decided to go back to the parking lot. And I got even more depressed. I am so scared that I cannot turn anymore even in a deserted area with no cars around and no pressure. If I go more than 5 mph I am scared of turning, I don't want the bike to lean... just two weeks ago I was so proud I managed to turn left and right within 3 parking spaces, now I need 5! I want to keep practising but I feel really depressed and kind of ready to give up. I don't want to be a danger to myself and to others on the street
Hi, I am in a similar situation. I got my license over 10 years ago but did not get a motorcycle until a few weeks ago (I am 52 yrs old btw). I am also scared at times and those simple exercises they show on videos are way harder than they look. I ride at 6am on weekends to avoid traffic lol. All I can say is to take consistent baby steps, wear full gear and I hope you do not give up. Good luck.
If you mentioned it I missed it unfortunately, but what is your idle RPM? I guess if it's too low you would stop and too fast would be no good either? Thanks
Hi Jay, love this technique, thanks for your videos! On my bike (Indian Chief 116), the engine lugs at idle (around 1000 rpm) so I can work around this by disengaging the clutch slightly into the friction zone, then I can do clutch, no throttle or rear brake. Is that correct? Roughly what rpm do your bikes idle at? Thanks again, I would love to train you someday.
First time seeing your channel. After viewing your video on slow speed u-turn with only clutch control I can't wait to try it. I have tried using the brake, throttle and clutch and I'm either going too fast or hitting the rear brake too much causing problems. Fortunately I have not dropped the bike but it was frustrating. I have a 2017 Road King which idles around 850-900. Is this rpm sufficient for your techniques? Thank you and can't wait for additional videos.
Well thanks for watching and i hope you will subscribe. If your bike idles at 800-900 rpm's thats fine, just use proper throttle engagement as you engage the clutch further out to that sweet spot in the friction zone where you can make the turns comfortably for you. I will be making a 2nd part to this video soon to further explain. Train hard, Ride safe!
Wow! That was pretty cool. Definitely a different technique from the other videos I've been watching. It really helped to see from the riders view also, Made me feel like I was experiencing the lean required to make these tight turns. I find, however, in my riding that when I need to do a U turn, it's almost always from a complete stop, so no momentum. Open clutch only won't do it. But, I'm going to practice TCC anyway next time I'm in a parking lot. Less to think about when it's just clutch only. I've never been able to make a turn within a 2 parking lot space. 3 is the best I've done so far. Question . . . how fast are you going with no throttle and just an open clutch on those tight turns?
Hello Dave, Thanks for the kind words. Im really glad to hear you are practicing. To 1 point in your reply, you actually dont need the throttle to do a u turn from a stop. It can still be done without throttle input. (STAY TUNED). But even though it can be done, you should still use PROPER throttle engagement to do it, to save the wear and tear on your bike from using high rpms with improper clutch engagement. The goal is to develop Total Clutch Control (TCC) with proper throttle engagement. We will be doing a follow up to this video soon. I hope you will subscribe and share with others so we can get this message out to help as many as we can. Train hard, Ride safe! Jay
Thank you
Omg I was taught not to make any turn with clutch disengaged as it would fall over. Im always making u turns with clutch throttle amd rear brake.
i like that aproach will employ these stratagies, so thank you. My question is will the method work on an Indian springfield darkhorse with the 116
Clutch control and proper throttle engagement works on any bike
At what rpm do you have idle set? Your bike has quite a bit of more power than my KLR 650 on just clutch speed, I’m finding I need throttle assist to get to you momentum. Thanks.
wow, wonderful training. I have some queston about tcc. 1st gear and no throttle and rear brake, how to go forward with a steady speed with clutch? I feel like drop my bike without throttle a little bit.
I see what you’re doing.That’s the way I want my turns to be. I will have to start practicing to get total clutch control.I need to know how much play the clutch should have,should it be loose or tight?😊
You should be able to use TCC with proper throttle engagement on any bike. Train hard, Ride safe!
Hi Jay I really enjoy your videos I have been practicing and wanted to ask how to learn to go to full lock in a turn? Thank you
It just takes practice and being able to lose the fear of dropping your motorcycle makes it even easier which is what motorcycle drop giards have done for thousands of riders now.
Why are you steering with one hand on the windshield.
Just to show totalt clutch control is all you need to make a simple 18 foot u turn. Train hard, Ride safe!
Stupid question, but when you say open clutch, you mean you're not squeezing the clutch lever at all, correct? And engaged clutch means you are?
A tip, I don't understand when you say engage disengage, open etc, so like physically what are you doing with the handle. What does clutch "open" mean? does that mean that your hand is off of the clutch lever completely
Hello Jessica, when the clutch is engaged that means the clutch is opening up are totally open. Dis-engaged means you have the clutch completely squeezed. Here is a link to the latest video we answered your question. ruclips.net/video/VwJhhQ3tyFE/видео.html
What gear where you using?
Seer helmet, and mechanic gloves.
Where are you located? How much are yOur classes.?
This is so different than everything I know.
Please send any info.
Tony, we are in Houston, Texas.
Where in Texas?
@@darlenehomme3319 Houston, Texas