I can just picture a future episode where Batman needs help in a case so he goes to see Harley in prison and she is strapped up, wearing a tattered vest and a muzzle in a glass cell.
@@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος I wonder, if there is ever an multiverse episode on dc Harley Quinn show and she meet’s this version of Harley, this would be crazy.
Interesting how the guy in the baby costume just didn't think to hit her with the mallet he just straight up obeyed her in exchange for pudding, guess she trained him well, which makes it even creepier, how bad is it that the guy just follows her after yelling at her, it's pretty chilling.
The costumes make sense from a psychological perspective. She's breaking people down into archetypes with manipulation and the costumes enforce it. It's kinda like cult tactics, especially the one where she got the guy to useless sort christmas lights. Reconditioning a person by forcing them into routines, to manipulate their dopamine center is a very real and documented tactic for cults.
Not only that, but digging into their past and making them roleplay a traumatic part of their lives. Rather than helping them move on from their issues, she's trapping them in a loop to keep them psychologically caged.
And what makes her a villain, rather than someone who does things constructively, is that she's doing it as a sort of way to punish them & to feel gratification from it.
I like how the writers made Harley Quinn different here she can easily go from the cheerful silly menace that we're all used to or someone who has come and dangerous like the Harley Quinn we're seeing right now. I like how she can go either way.❤
She's using that therapeutic talk tone. In psychology it's used to create a sense of calm and lower-stimulation to put the patient at ease. Here she's using it in a manipulative manner that makes her so much more menacing.
Honestly after this episode I was expect Harley to have been the creator of The Joker rather than the other way around. Like the Joker is a scientist for Ace Chemicals and he admits to sabotaging a coworker on a project so he could get a promotion and that confession led him to the Playpen
I think Harley would only do that if the Joker did something that was hurting others like its implied these men are horrible and abusive to everyone they know
I have to admit this version of Harley scared me a lot. This is a new approach, and I quite like it. Showing she's a threat all by herself and not because of Joker
This may not be the first time we've seen a radically different interpretation of Harley Quinn (see the Telltale Batman game series!), but I welcome any different interpretation if done well. In Batman:CC, the intention was to invert Harleen Quinzel and Harley Quinn. Normally, Harleen is the serious psychiatrist while Harley Quinn is the fun-loving psychopath. But here, Harleen is a quirky psychiatrist while Harley Quinn is the sinister jester who uses her psychiatry skills for malicious purposes. And I think that's a really fresh take! For people who are thinking "They finally remember Harley Quinn is a psychiatrist!", while this take certainly seems like it, I like to imagine that most versions had Harley Quinn as a sort of escape for Harleen to let loose when she really wanted. That said, Harley using psychology against people is a very interesting idea, and I'm really glad they went for this sort of sharp contrast. It does make me wonder how an actual Golden Age Harley Quinn would've been like, especially since Golden Age villains were meant to be far more one-dimensional than their modern day counterparts.
Well her applying her psychiatry as Harley Quinn would sort of detract from her whole deal as the victim of an abusive relationship with the Joker. Someone as intelligent as that wouldn't be so vulnerable if she didn't already have a few screws loose.
@@JDog2656 Well, I wouldn't consider those mutually exclusive. Harley Quinn could theoretically still try to apply psychology in ways Joker himself can't actually reach. That said, under your point of view, that is precisely why this version of Harley Quinn works so well, because she does not have any influence of the Joker with her.
I rather liked this approach to Harley, though I’m a fan of the traditional one from the animated series, this was a fresh take that separated her from The Joker… while making her a threat all of her own.
Yes I like it too, I'm a big fan even in the newer iteration but I'm glad we get to see her as a threat all on her own and incredibly terrifying one at that
Well, this version of Harley is a whole new level of disturbing. And she took this into an alarming back alley turn. But don’t get me wrong, I’m here for this new Harley!
This is honestly an awesome remake of Harley Quin and I LOVE her. I know a lot of people hate the new Penguin for the gender swap but I kinda like the new fit because it is an interesting take on Oswald Cobblepot (AKA penguin) and could honestly just be told as another Penguin from a multi-verse plot if they really needed to explain their decision.
I hope this show will make people more open to the idea of reinterpreting characters. You can make them very different as long as you flesh them out correctly.
I like it. It's reversed so the therapist is playful and friendly and approachable and the clown is stoic, cold and sardonic like someone put Daria in a clown suit and she's mentally clocked out. She was what we deserved over the victimized one that cant be saved cause she's still dangerous and unhinged.
Imagine her using her skills to make Joker even more insane and dangerous. Almost like an unethical dog fight trainer finding a vicious new star, though it would bite her the first chance it gets if she gets careless.
I really like this version of Harley Quinn. So dark and serious compared to her Deadpool-esque variants, which I still love, just this version is my number one.
I'm liking this villainous version of Harley. She's more cold, calculating, and dangerous, and flexes her psych degree in full force, along with proving that she can be a threat to people on her own without the Joker. And this version of Harley never even met the Joker either.
I actually thought the line was puddin not pudding when harley said that line. like she knew who the joker was but it was also meant to enforce the pudding with the hammer.. This version of harley seems to be more dangerous but she has morals. she would not hurt barbra but batman she would. Also all of the men trapped in there are going under phycological duress. the question is what happened to them we see them escape the mansion but we do not see anythiing after.
This Harley is a sociopath so she was immune to the narcissism or her patients. The original Harley wasn't a sociopath so she got played by a narcissist. Sociopaths are basically immune to narcissists.
Another thing is Harley wears makeup and sshe said the jesters rule this court. this line is interesting from a villain perspective. she is talking like she rules gotham's elite including bruce.
Glad he didn’t unalive him, still, that’s rly scary // dark stuff.. not that I’m complaining tho- even if I don’t think I could stomach watching atm (maybe when I’m in better state of mind tho?)
I liked that they went in a different direction focusing more on her psychiatrist side but i felt her Harley Quinn persona was a bit Hugo Strange esque
See I'm going to be perfectly honest I was never a fan of Harley Quinn even when she first started out Because I don't like the idea of a woman saying with a guy who constantly beats her but wants to stay because she believes that she could change him And I'm not a fan of this Harley Quinn either only because the Joker is not involved with her origin I get the fact that Bruce Tim wanted to change her and that's fine it's your creation you do what you want with him or her. But this version of Harley Quinn did not make sense to me
The one thing I never understood about Harley Quinn in this show is why is she a jester… The Joker is not in this show so she should have not become a jester because she was so obsessed with the Joker that she wanted to follow him everywhere so she became his sidekick with the jester theme, and because he mostly abused her to think like that. Don't get me wrong I like this version of Harley Quinn she is basically a messed-up genius psychiatrist but the costume just does not make sense, I think the writers needed to explain why she is wearing that costume because without the Joker explaining it just does not make sense.
Her name is still Harlene Quinzel, so a Harlequin making mockeries of the mighty isn't far beyond her reach if she thinks about it for a few seconds...
I feel like this Harley Quinn was created to get us use to the idea of joker 2s Harley Quinn. The idea thst Harley can be completely different in other universes.
I like this villain, but not as Harley. Being unserious has always been Harley's thing, and while I appreciate the attempt to make something interesting, this would be better of as a separate character.
Harley being u serious is relatively new. She was The Joker's sidekick and generally as serious as him in stories. This Harley has all the main elements of traditional Harley reorganized. She's just utilizing her psychiatry training to get what she wants. Really even goofy Harley does that but in a less obvious way. They just inverted the silly and serious personalities
This Harley is ok. But, classic Harley would have been perfect for the Noir vibe in this show. Her looks alone scream roaring 20s vibe which is perfect for this show. Only thing that’s cool about this variant is that she has more sinister undertones to her character and is actually competent without joker as a stand alone villain. Everything else is kinda bland…
She's actually using very old, well studied, brainwashing techniques. I've heard it called "rote conditioning" It's a real thing that turns people into near-useless mush. It's what happens to prisoners in long term solitary confinement. We see her victims in all three stages of the process. Mr Moorhouse is maybe a week in to his conditioning, he's still fighting back. Mr Smith is after a month of conditioning, "Maybe I'm the bad bulb" Mr Belski is after 3 months to a year, and he's a blubbering mess.
Force someone to do something for long enough (IE, writing lines, finding a bad lightbulb, eating vegetables with the promise of dessert) And you make anyone do pretty much anything to make it stop.
Batman gets captured by Harley Quinn! 🤡ruclips.net/video/Trzuod-zslw/видео.html
So in this universe, Doctor Harley is goofy and clown Harley is Hannibal Lector-serious. Interesting reversal.
Image doctor Harley and clown Harley meeting, now thst be insane
With slight Domme vibes 😂
I can just picture a future episode where Batman needs help in a case so he goes to see Harley in prison and she is strapped up, wearing a tattered vest and a muzzle in a glass cell.
@@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος I wonder, if there is ever an multiverse episode on dc Harley Quinn show and she meet’s this version of Harley, this would be crazy.
@@ebonkinght Lol the VA literally said that she based her performance on videos of pro dominatrices.
Interesting how the guy in the baby costume just didn't think to hit her with the mallet he just straight up obeyed her in exchange for pudding, guess she trained him well, which makes it even creepier, how bad is it that the guy just follows her after yelling at her, it's pretty chilling.
He just really wants his damn pudding
@@Fowler-27 Give that man his damn puddin
I’d probably do the same for some pudding rn ngl
Baby guy: "Wait. What's stopping me from hitting you with this hammer and just taking the pudding?"
Harley: "Uh....." 😨
eh I found it a bit more BS, like the lastest guy she put in got brainwashed in like what a day?
The costumes make sense from a psychological perspective. She's breaking people down into archetypes with manipulation and the costumes enforce it. It's kinda like cult tactics, especially the one where she got the guy to useless sort christmas lights. Reconditioning a person by forcing them into routines, to manipulate their dopamine center is a very real and documented tactic for cults.
Not only that, but digging into their past and making them roleplay a traumatic part of their lives. Rather than helping them move on from their issues, she's trapping them in a loop to keep them psychologically caged.
And what makes her a villain, rather than someone who does things constructively, is that she's doing it as a sort of way to punish them & to feel gratification from it.
I feel like what makes her so scary is the fact she is calm. No accent just says what she needs to say calmly
I agree, this version of Harley is downright menacing
I like how the writers made Harley Quinn different here she can easily go from the cheerful silly menace that we're all used to or someone who has come and dangerous like the Harley Quinn we're seeing right now. I like how she can go either way.❤
She's using that therapeutic talk tone. In psychology it's used to create a sense of calm and lower-stimulation to put the patient at ease.
Here she's using it in a manipulative manner that makes her so much more menacing.
Honestly after this episode I was expect Harley to have been the creator of The Joker rather than the other way around. Like the Joker is a scientist for Ace Chemicals and he admits to sabotaging a coworker on a project so he could get a promotion and that confession led him to the Playpen
I think Harley would only do that if the Joker did something that was hurting others like its implied these men are horrible and abusive to everyone they know
I have to admit this version of Harley scared me a lot. This is a new approach, and I quite like it. Showing she's a threat all by herself and not because of Joker
She was using joker all along
Can you imagine if there was a female version of the joker
@dracodemon1138 there is in the comics and in the flash point animated film.
Reminds me of Telltale Batman's Harley, but more sane
@@JacobNintendoNerd99 sorry, but what's that? A comic?
This may not be the first time we've seen a radically different interpretation of Harley Quinn (see the Telltale Batman game series!), but I welcome any different interpretation if done well.
In Batman:CC, the intention was to invert Harleen Quinzel and Harley Quinn. Normally, Harleen is the serious psychiatrist while Harley Quinn is the fun-loving psychopath. But here, Harleen is a quirky psychiatrist while Harley Quinn is the sinister jester who uses her psychiatry skills for malicious purposes. And I think that's a really fresh take!
For people who are thinking "They finally remember Harley Quinn is a psychiatrist!", while this take certainly seems like it, I like to imagine that most versions had Harley Quinn as a sort of escape for Harleen to let loose when she really wanted. That said, Harley using psychology against people is a very interesting idea, and I'm really glad they went for this sort of sharp contrast. It does make me wonder how an actual Golden Age Harley Quinn would've been like, especially since Golden Age villains were meant to be far more one-dimensional than their modern day counterparts.
Well her applying her psychiatry as Harley Quinn would sort of detract from her whole deal as the victim of an abusive relationship with the Joker. Someone as intelligent as that wouldn't be so vulnerable if she didn't already have a few screws loose.
@@JDog2656 Well, I wouldn't consider those mutually exclusive. Harley Quinn could theoretically still try to apply psychology in ways Joker himself can't actually reach. That said, under your point of view, that is precisely why this version of Harley Quinn works so well, because she does not have any influence of the Joker with her.
We did get a Silver Age style Harley in the Batman 66 comic continuations. Does this count as a Golden Age one? Its very similar to the Telltale one
@@DSMister not yet anyway
I think Brave and The Bold came up with that
She feels like a completely different villain.
She is a different villain..they are just using Harley's name to bait fans into watching Caped Crusader
@tayojones9460 true
@@tayojones9460they’re not using her as bait. It’s a different interpretation of an established character.
@tayojones9460 isn't all of the characters in This version "Inverted"?
@@tayojones9460Bait to get those Harley fanboys watching the show.
I rather liked this approach to Harley, though I’m a fan of the traditional one from the animated series, this was a fresh take that separated her from The Joker… while making her a threat all of her own.
Treat or threat?
Yes I like it too, I'm a big fan even in the newer iteration but I'm glad we get to see her as a threat all on her own and incredibly terrifying one at that
@@frankorefice4115
Yes
She’s so unsettling but I can’t look away.
"admit it. You can't look away.
-earth 16 Joker voiced by Bring Spinee
The hammer with the “pudding” line wasn’t lost on me 😮
Dang. So this is what Harley would be like if she wasn’t the DC Deadpool. I like it.
That is an odd statement considering Deadpool is the Marvel Deathstroke.
Mind blown 🤯
She ain’t the dc deadpool
@@caseyp5861and deadtool is dc's version of Deadpool
@@SI4Y She is bro….
Well, this version of Harley is a whole new level of disturbing. And she took this into an alarming back alley turn.
But don’t get me wrong, I’m here for this new Harley!
2:09 I love the easter egg of Poison Ivy's rare rose. Maybe it's hinting that she'll be in the next season 🤔
I really hope so I would love to see how she is in this version
I could still reasonably believe this Harley becoming an antihero. She's very similar to Batman in taking on a crusade to punish the bad guy
This is honestly an awesome remake of Harley Quin and I LOVE her. I know a lot of people hate the new Penguin for the gender swap but I kinda like the new fit because it is an interesting take on Oswald Cobblepot (AKA penguin) and could honestly just be told as another Penguin from a multi-verse plot if they really needed to explain their decision.
Interesting take on Harley, I also like how they twisted the iconic Pudding line by having one her of indoctrinated patients say it.
To hear someone else say "puddin'" like that... Yikes.
Can you imagine what this Harley Quinn could do to the Joker from BTAS?
I would LOVE to see that.
I hope this show will make people more open to the idea of reinterpreting characters. You can make them very different as long as you flesh them out correctly.
True
Well The Batman 2004 did that too, people who watched really liked
Like Spider-Man!
I WILL be honest. I ACTUALLY LIKE this take on Harley Quinn. She's so terrifying!
She's so authoritative this time around.
This Harley is super different then her crazy variants self
This Harley Quinn is really calm and calculating. She is giving her patients and clients a twisted therapy.
If you listen carefully, you’ll notice that Harley Quinn’s leitmotif incorporates violin, similarly to Anarky’s theme in “Beware the Batman”.
I like it. It's reversed so the therapist is playful and friendly and approachable and the clown is stoic, cold and sardonic like someone put Daria in a clown suit and she's mentally clocked out. She was what we deserved over the victimized one that cant be saved cause she's still dangerous and unhinged.
I honestly want to see the Scarecrow/Dr. Crane in this show. Harley said that he was her professor of psychology. They could be a team.
Honestly, I'm very curious of how the dynamic of this Harley could be with a more traditional interpretation of the Joker
Imagine her using her skills to make Joker even more insane and dangerous. Almost like an unethical dog fight trainer finding a vicious new star, though it would bite her the first chance it gets if she gets careless.
Ohhh I like that idea. Give this Harley someone who can turn her tricks back on her.
This Harley is a sociopath. That means she is immune to the mind games of a narcissist this time around.
This Harley is better than the jolly one.
Nah
It’s a great new approach to her character but nothing beats the og
I really like this version of Harley Quinn. So dark and serious compared to her Deadpool-esque variants, which I still love, just this version is my number one.
Haven't seen the show yet but this is the kind of Harley that would be the manipulator of Joker...
I was unsure about her before, but I love this direction
I got chills when he said “Puddin’”
Amazing that Harley is actually a threat to Batman without Joker too as well damn
This feels like Harley if she lost it but never met the Joker
I'm liking this villainous version of Harley. She's more cold, calculating, and dangerous, and flexes her psych degree in full force, along with proving that she can be a threat to people on her own without the Joker. And this version of Harley never even met the Joker either.
YES! I love a calm and collected Harley!! This is exactly the direction I’d hoped they’d take!
ngl this is definitely some dominatrix-roleplay-type stuff goin’ on with this harley
no way you’d see this on fox kids
Hot 😳😳😳
@@Naoto-kun1085 WHAT
No, no, they have a point @@AdamThomas-vf4op
The newspaper is filled with sample text, and I can’t unsee it.
I actually thought the line was puddin not pudding when harley said that line. like she knew who the joker was but it was also meant to enforce the pudding with the hammer.. This version of harley seems to be more dangerous but she has morals. she would not hurt barbra but batman she would. Also all of the men trapped in there are going under phycological duress. the question is what happened to them we see them escape the mansion but we do not see anythiing after.
This Harley is a sociopath so she was immune to the narcissism or her patients.
The original Harley wasn't a sociopath so she got played by a narcissist.
Sociopaths are basically immune to narcissists.
pudin was cutie nickname for the joker now its something creepy now
Another thing is Harley wears makeup and sshe said the jesters rule this court. this line is interesting from a villain perspective. she is talking like she rules gotham's elite including bruce.
I wish I could unsee that baby one.
This is the first time I found a version of Harley interesting sense the original btas
Anyone agree these patients deserve to be In the play pen
I can only imagine what this Harley Quinn interactions be with this universe’s Joker
Kind of interesting to see a Harley who’s origin is independent of the joker
I wish thia was a different, even an original villain, then having it be Harley. I miss my Harley 😢
Mr belsky wardrobe matched his true age 😂😂😂
I like this new Harley more than any poat Arkham Harley, less annoying
"Puddin'."
I see what they did there.
oh i love this version of harley
I can definitely this Harley more serious than the one I’m all to familiar with
Did they parallel it with the Stanford Prison Experiment on purpose or-
The fact that the clue is checkbook stubs means this must be intended for adults. Cuz kids these days ain't gonna have any idea what that thing is.
she is the coolest harley yet i think
Dr. Quinn: Menacing Woman
Dayum, that’s dark. “pudding!” That was just pure ominous
Glad he didn’t unalive him, still, that’s rly scary
// dark stuff.. not that I’m complaining tho- even if I don’t think I could stomach watching atm (maybe when I’m in better state of mind tho?)
This is new but also intriguing
Ohhhh this harley SCARES me, kudos to the team behind her!!
I LOVED this Harley Quin
I like the concept, love the voice cast, and I love how they drew her but.
Not gonna lie, this verson of Harley is unsettling 😮
This series proves that Harley Quinn doesn't need the Joker to be evil😮
So… there’s no Joker? It’s just ‘The Jester’ instead of ‘Harley Quinn’?
There's a Joker, I think
it's like theseus ship here
they rip apart all of harley quinn identity except for few parts and call her harley quinn
I wonder what she was planning for Bruce when he was her patient?
I love the eyes of the character
Scary version of Harley Quinn, I like it!
No there are far scarier versions of her. This is just a show trying to make her a match for Batman. Which is just laughable.
@@corbinpenniman3265 she was never scary
Couldnt they just say its a new charachter instead of harley?
I liked that they went in a different direction focusing more on her psychiatrist side but i felt her Harley Quinn persona was a bit Hugo Strange esque
I'm guessing that this is the newest Universe (or was it Omniverse)?
The rotund Alfred certainly is different.
See I'm going to be perfectly honest I was never a fan of Harley Quinn even when she first started out
Because I don't like the idea of a woman saying with a guy who constantly beats her but wants to stay because she believes that she could change him
And I'm not a fan of this Harley Quinn either only because the Joker is not involved with her origin
I get the fact that Bruce Tim wanted to change her and that's fine it's your creation you do what you want with him or her. But this version of Harley Quinn did not make sense to me
I have pieced together everything
And this is all BEFORE the Joker shows up.
They really fixed the over representation of Harley
Given this Harley’s scary enough, what’s gonna happen when she meets Caped Crusader’s take on you-know-who?
The one thing I never understood about Harley Quinn in this show is why is she a jester…
The Joker is not in this show so she should have not become a jester because she was so obsessed with the Joker that she wanted to follow him everywhere so she became his sidekick with the jester theme, and because he mostly abused her to think like that.
Don't get me wrong I like this version of Harley Quinn she is basically a messed-up genius psychiatrist but the costume just does not make sense, I think the writers needed to explain why she is wearing that costume because without the Joker explaining it just does not make sense.
I mean, she already heard the pun about her name many times before meeting Joker, according to comics and video games
She’s not a jester she’s a Harlequin
I think is because tradionally the jesters maked fun of kings and lords, which is what she is doing.
Her name is still Harlene Quinzel, so a Harlequin making mockeries of the mighty isn't far beyond her reach if she thinks about it for a few seconds...
It’s based on the concept of juniun arcatypes (I think I spelt that right) she’s the archetype of the jester
I actually love this Harley Quinn it’s so badass
She was ultimately boring with no reason given for anything. Even had a random butler. Again no reason.
Is this what Harley would look like if she appeared in the comics before the animated series?
She's got a bit more Hugo strange in her.
I f***ing hate clowns
- Spawn MK11
I feel like this Harley Quinn was created to get us use to the idea of joker 2s Harley Quinn. The idea thst Harley can be completely different in other universes.
Wander which cell Mister J. is locked in? In a Pudding cell?
Hm I wonder why she’s wearing yellow
"Mmm puddin"
I like this villain, but not as Harley. Being unserious has always been Harley's thing, and while I appreciate the attempt to make something interesting, this would be better of as a separate character.
Harley being u serious is relatively new. She was The Joker's sidekick and generally as serious as him in stories. This Harley has all the main elements of traditional Harley reorganized. She's just utilizing her psychiatry training to get what she wants. Really even goofy Harley does that but in a less obvious way. They just inverted the silly and serious personalities
@PrimeVideoUK 2:10 It should be spelt ‘bizarre’, not ‘bizzare’ 🤦🏻♂️
This is just sad.
This Harley is ok. But, classic Harley would have been perfect for the Noir vibe in this show. Her looks alone scream roaring 20s vibe which is perfect for this show. Only thing that’s cool about this variant is that she has more sinister undertones to her character and is actually competent without joker as a stand alone villain. Everything else is kinda bland…
When she teams up with Joker she will be more badass
Alfred has put on some weight!
Who told Harleen to be Thick'ums Extraordinaire?
My how the turntables have tabled
How do you brainwash someone by making him Write "i've been a bad boy"?
She's actually using very old, well studied, brainwashing techniques. I've heard it called "rote conditioning" It's a real thing that turns people into near-useless mush. It's what happens to prisoners in long term solitary confinement.
We see her victims in all three stages of the process.
Mr Moorhouse is maybe a week in to his conditioning, he's still fighting back.
Mr Smith is after a month of conditioning, "Maybe I'm the bad bulb"
Mr Belski is after 3 months to a year, and he's a blubbering mess.
Force someone to do something for long enough (IE, writing lines, finding a bad lightbulb, eating vegetables with the promise of dessert)
And you make anyone do pretty much anything to make it stop.
@@wackojacko0295
That explain why the baby complied so fast.
This is so interesting
Puddin....