I love to see the counters coming but thanks devs for making it the only 4 commanders I have at respect lvl 0 lmao 🤣 I guess someone always has to pull the short straw I’ll take it haha 😜
Dain level seems difficult to me, considering that it is currently the best in the game, unfortunately the direction of teoden is not that of the dd at the moment.
Hi Ombra, awesome work as always. Thanks for spending all the hours testing stuff. I was thinking of B and C teams with the current meta. In live, I am using teams who need the same gear, so I can use 1 gear set for team A and then swap it to team B and go again. If the current meta will be Dain/Sauron/GtW/Gil, what could be a team B that would need the same gear and would have similar roles? Skalhelm/X/GtG/Undying? I know you probably have more videos coming, but this would be super helpful later if you could create a top list for the different roles (similar to the ones you created 6-8 months ago when 2.0 came out). Love you content, thank you for helping the community.
Ciao Ombra, super video fantastico lavoro come sempre!!!! Due domande:1) i gear set dei comandanti sono gli stessi di adesso o devono cambiare? 2) le top formation sono due dain, Gil, GTW, Sauron e la counter Sauron, Cestaro, Shadow w Saruman, se volessi usarle tutte e due in quale formazione tolgo Sauron e cosa metto al suo posto? Grazieeeee
looks good, I am confused though if something is the anti meta and beats the meta does that make it the true meta? Also this testing is not a reality of how battles are fought in game. not everyone has time to produce medium or large units in competitive seasons. So theory and reality sadly never meet in these scenarios. If the true meta allows you to fight 8 times a day you are not really effective for your team for example. However fantastic watch and im pleased there is so much testing being done in pbe.
The meta team is expensive but is the one that have the better resoult on fight vs every formation exept the counter meta. Counter meta is cheaper, and also strong vs the other possible combinaton, but we don't test suficcent time vs the other combination for define that" The new meta", what we can say is that the counter meta defeat the meta team every time. Ofc test gonna continue, and we gonna have a more clear point of view in the next week, i'm also think that they gonna add other change, so what i say is related to the situation on the pbe today, but can change.
@@ombrartw thanks Ombra keep up the good work. im currently testing a thorin taunt build to strip WC inside 2 rounds with ease. not sure how it will play out in practice.
We try that, and vs Meta that have no chanche, evasion is too strong for preserve WC, and also the meta with 3 support have an insane ammount of stun impossible to fight. Falgin don't do good right know.
I have mad an announce on my discord server about that and i'm gonna cover the update when that gonna be release, for give to the community secure information abut that.
exacltly, commander that buff the troop for deal damage are still very bad, you can use it at Purple level F2p for take tile, but Higher than that are useless.
no couse gimli don't hit alot round 1 and 2, and also the swan tank all the basico, so you can't pass the wc, so is useles hit if your skill are rduced by 70%+ Is better have a commander that can clean the wc fast vs swan like Saruman or Cestaro the gimli.
No couse cestaro work is deal damage ignoring the defensive skill pre battle, and burn wc stack fast, vs protection. Is the only commander that can deal good this work on the current meta. This is the reason couse also cestaro qork better the skal on this team, and skal is very very op for damage, but don't do the job good like Cestaro.
First of all that’s not the Meta formation , beorn are not there . And there is no variety of meta because the variety it’s dain beorn , gtw , Gil galad . And for finish full big troups are very expensive
I suggest you watch the video, inside it there are already the answers to everything you said specifically. Maybe not seen the calculation of resources spent and recruitment time, I suggest you take a look at the data again :) As for the alternatives, there are many more than before, there are at least 12 usable commanders against 4 that were before.
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I love to see the counters coming but thanks devs for making it the only 4 commanders I have at respect lvl 0 lmao 🤣 I guess someone always has to pull the short straw I’ll take it haha 😜
True!
This is the content we need
Ty bro!
I’m hoping we can get some super hot cav builds using King Theoden 🔥 in honour of the late great Bernard Hill. Theo needs big dain lvl damage devs 😇🔥
Dain level seems difficult to me, considering that it is currently the best in the game, unfortunately the direction of teoden is not that of the dd at the moment.
Great video, thanks for the info, I hope I can put together a good team with the respect reset
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Wow, what a fantastic guide, as usual number 1!
Ty bro!
Hi Ombra, awesome work as always. Thanks for spending all the hours testing stuff. I was thinking of B and C teams with the current meta. In live, I am using teams who need the same gear, so I can use 1 gear set for team A and then swap it to team B and go again. If the current meta will be Dain/Sauron/GtW/Gil, what could be a team B that would need the same gear and would have similar roles? Skalhelm/X/GtG/Undying? I know you probably have more videos coming, but this would be super helpful later if you could create a top list for the different roles (similar to the ones you created 6-8 months ago when 2.0 came out). Love you content, thank you for helping the community.
i will work on that too :)
Amazing video🎉
Ty Bro!
What about Dain, Saruman, GtW, Sauron? And also could you add some new gear recommendations for those formations ?:)
Ciao Ombra, super video fantastico lavoro come sempre!!!! Due domande:1) i gear set dei comandanti sono gli stessi di adesso o devono cambiare? 2) le top formation sono due dain, Gil, GTW, Sauron e la counter Sauron, Cestaro, Shadow w Saruman, se volessi usarle tutte e due in quale formazione tolgo Sauron e cosa metto al suo posto? Grazieeeee
entrambe hanno bisogno di Sauron, devi usare la terza formazione senza sauron per giocarle entrambe
Ovvero: Beorn/Saruman/gtg/Undying
@@ombrartw ok peccato….quindi devo scegliere la prima se la meta nuova o la countermeta che hai suggerito..(che mi sembra ottima..)
looks good, I am confused though if something is the anti meta and beats the meta does that make it the true meta? Also this testing is not a reality of how battles are fought in game. not everyone has time to produce medium or large units in competitive seasons. So theory and reality sadly never meet in these scenarios. If the true meta allows you to fight 8 times a day you are not really effective for your team for example. However fantastic watch and im pleased there is so much testing being done in pbe.
The meta team is expensive but is the one that have the better resoult on fight vs every formation exept the counter meta.
Counter meta is cheaper, and also strong vs the other possible combinaton, but we don't test suficcent time vs the other combination for define that" The new meta", what we can say is that the counter meta defeat the meta team every time.
Ofc test gonna continue, and we gonna have a more clear point of view in the next week, i'm also think that they gonna add other change, so what i say is related to the situation on the pbe today, but can change.
@@ombrartw thanks Ombra keep up the good work. im currently testing a thorin taunt build to strip WC inside 2 rounds with ease. not sure how it will play out in practice.
Did you guys test undying in the place of gil-galad? He also gives evasion but he can clear the enemy WC a lot better than gil can
Is this formation for good side useful?
Falgin as tank with swans
Dain and Beorn/Gimli as dds with dwarves
GtW as support with dwarves
We try that, and vs Meta that have no chanche, evasion is too strong for preserve WC, and also the meta with 3 support have an insane ammount of stun impossible to fight.
Falgin don't do good right know.
What does the counter buff actually do? Because crushers have same hp as t1 trolls
+20% damage dealt from the formation (commander and troop) and in adition Troll reduce damage take by 10%
Can you make a video on what exactly the new update is going to include with changing commander respect and reset
I have mad an announce on my discord server about that and i'm gonna cover the update when that gonna be release, for give to the community secure information abut that.
Buenas Ombra. Por lo que comentas , entiendo que los cambios a los campeones de llevaderos de tropas es insuficiente. Siguen sin ser buena opción?
exacltly, commander that buff the troop for deal damage are still very bad, you can use it at Purple level F2p for take tile, but Higher than that are useless.
Dain Gil-Galand Gandalf the White Saruman good formacia????
Can you tell what equipment you gave the meta formation?
I'm gonna make a dedicate video to the meta formation with all the build and the information :)
What do u think about gimli since he has pursuit vs gil? Will not matter? Can gimli counter Gil?
no couse gimli don't hit alot round 1 and 2, and also the swan tank all the basico, so you can't pass the wc, so is useles hit if your skill are rduced by 70%+
Is better have a commander that can clean the wc fast vs swan like Saruman or Cestaro the gimli.
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Ty bro!
In your opinion, if gil will be used a lot, gimli could not be a better option than dain?
No couse Dain is from another planet, we test Gimli insted of Dain and on average we got 30% less damage from Gimli in the some simulation.
@@ombrartw lol even with 3 rounds of evade??
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Thers no option for do that?
i feel disturbed that u have shown my loss towards numenorean :)
You would lose even against Glasha DD XD
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I didn't understand xd
Any chance that GtW would work in the counter Meta group? Maybe swap out Cestaro?
Love the effort man!😊
No couse cestaro work is deal damage ignoring the defensive skill pre battle, and burn wc stack fast, vs protection.
Is the only commander that can deal good this work on the current meta.
This is the reason couse also cestaro qork better the skal on this team, and skal is very very op for damage, but don't do the job good like Cestaro.
First of all that’s not the Meta formation , beorn are not there . And there is no variety of meta because the variety it’s dain beorn , gtw , Gil galad . And for finish full big troups are very expensive
I suggest you watch the video, inside it there are already the answers to everything you said specifically.
Maybe not seen the calculation of resources spent and recruitment time, I suggest you take a look at the data again :)
As for the alternatives, there are many more than before, there are at least 12 usable commanders against 4 that were before.
Did you just hate comment on a video you haven’t watched?😂😂
he showed many formations and the cost of large troops, I don't understand this comment