It's been a while since this video has been out, and I've refrained from replying to all comments as usual. First of all, my rapid development as a pilot, ACFA helped me understand piloting really well, and I've gained a lot of experience through my hours in AC6. At the point of becoming an S-rank pilot, you completely understand this game and its PVP aspect. As stated by the description, this is a rock, paper, scissors pvp game. You roll a lightweight combo stagger into a laser tank and you will lose 95% of the time. To those of you who suggest kiting and using missiles: You're aware I can't fly forever, and my missiles pelt for very little stagger/damage on the target on a wide CD duration. What's going to happen once I run out of energy and reach the ground? The laser tank that's not using any energy whatsoever to chase me will roll over in front of me and we still get the lag situation with the lasers. The only thing I've found to successfully throw ow laser tank latency lag is to quickly side boost to the sides, between lag and FCS recalculation it's a little less likely to be hit by these. This is a Viento/Missile/Melee build. There's absolutely no way missile spam will win this, even switching my missiles to laser drones won't do much, again, it's a rps. What are your thoughts?
This hit my recommended again. So I'll bite again. After spending more than me in ranked. This isn't even remotely the worse thing I've seen as a light pilot but it is annoying that you get staggered once and deleted. To deter this type of behavior you usually need one of two things, a wall to stop the build from doing what it wants, whatever form that takes. And / or a way to stay away from it. Those tanks which do this are usually slow with 40% damage reduction and a shield if they're smart. Or a Fortaleza which is tuned for closing distance when le grounded. Stat ng airborne will keep distance but it won't help dodge the zooks. The nachtrier legs can help with that with a powerful enough booster. BVOs have also never been meta but have classically trained the meta designs so competing with anything super top tier is going to be like that. I can also confirm that lag + hit detection n is what makes these specific things irritating. Unfortunately as you stated, the side to side QBs help throw off the tracker ng but at some ranges that wont help. I have seen hyper aggressive attacks work well against some of those but that still hinges on dodging the zoooks. After all this time. I just put a pulse shield on mores designs.
Bait the opponent into missing his laser beams. Since you're faster, try to preemptively react to the red box ping that goes off when an AC is firing its blast. Also because you're fast, spin around him as you kite your bullets. You've got Vientos, so use them! 🤟🏼
Deal with lag tank is pain in ass but there are some methods you can increase the chance of winning. For example, in this map, use the platform surrounding the map as well as the pillar. Since you're lightweight, you should able to circle around the obstacle quiet quick to avoid shot. You can safely assume most of people who use meta build have a poor understanding of terrain and cover, if not, your build should still give you the advantage maneuver around obstacle. Another method is to use aerial but since you're using BVO build, vertical thrust isn't very good in that case. Tank usually is a dead meat when you have twin dual missiles. Dual missile is designed to counter target that don't utilize aerial combat since vertical launch create a difficult-to-doge trajectory. Along with its quick reload time, you can eat a tank alive as long as you stay in a higher altitude than the tank.
@@hex5874 it's all fair game. He should just not play the ranked. And yeh, that's a pretty common meta build as well. I advise he spend more time in arial combat against tanks, those canons have good trajectory.
The fact that the projectiles explode next to you even when they missed you is what's the problem. If they miss you then they also should not explode meaning you take no damage or stagger value. If they fix this then PVP will become fun again and you can just kite/dodge tank builds for a win every time.
@@Hcastr44222explosives have a proximity detonation to make them able to hit things and set ranged detonation to reward keeping optimal distance. the problem is Internet latency which he clearly shouldn't have been hit at the end and is what I assumed the video was having an issue with till i read his comment 🤭
and i hope they will have ping compensate of laser weapon travel time, if you are LW or MW vs HW with charged laser weapons and having bad ping, the round is already finished even from the start.
if you encounter this use the timer to your advantage if you're a light weight build. you can do minor damage, and then just assault boost out of the way the rest of time. sometimes that's all you can do in a situation like this.
What i don't understand are tanks like that have a top speed of around 270 and his lightweight build should have at least 370 top speed, yet the tank was able to catch up without even assault boosting.
Options 1. You could rat them like here 0:30 only for the full game. Options 2. Quick boost everytime you hear it like here 0:39. Make sure you have an AC capable of that type of energy though.(You’re not carrying much so you most likely do, or can .) Option 3. Infinitely fly so you have less of a chance to be hit by a rocket, and avoid splash damage. What would they expect if you rat them? For you to just stand there and get one shotted?
This is why tanks need a nerf. They shouldnt be able to just roll up on a LW using Alula boosters without any downside. And they have near perfect 360 tracking. In games past, of you were fast enough, all you had to do was get on the side or back of the tank and they couldnt track you very well. This is how it should be. Now they dont even have that downside because they track in a full circle. Its so stupid.
I think that was my chief complaint about tank legs in VI when I started playing it after coming straight from 3rd Gen AC. They don't seem to really have a downside other than piss poor air mobility (which doesn't matter if you can just arm your AC better than an Aegis Crusier) whereas older gens had you tradeoff being able to carry any combination of weapons with extremely poor turning and mobility (aka, if it wasn't in front of you, you were going to die).
They seriously need do something about their net code or hitboxes because I'm tired of losing to ghost hits. But when my shots land they just tickle em or don't even register at all
@uberfacsol blast radius or not, it still hits like it's a direct impact. Blast raidus shouldn't be that powerful at all imo because it's literally abusement of hitboxes
@@uberfacsolThe blast radius of bazookas is 15 metres. He was more than 15 metres away from whereever the Bazookas were when they exploded. The explosion is approximately what the blast area is supposed to be. The edge of the explosions that damaged him were nowhere near him mutliple times. In PVE, if the bazooka explodes that far way you do 0 damage.
I stopped playing AC6 PvP after I lost my B rank promos because on my third win, the opponent (a missile spamming kite) alt+F4'd in terminal armor during the second round, which would have been my last win. Then I got the same guy with the same build (and actually the same build from this video, they're all just copying it) three fucking games in a row. I was running a VE-20B with laser pistols and auroras. nothing I could do as a medium weight, didn't even have the mobility to dodge those fucking grenade launchers. I got him close a couple times, but he'd literally park in the middle of the map and play Tower Defense. So. Fucking. Dumb.
man builds lightest possible AC entirely dependent on stunlocking the enemy to death, proceeds to meet enemy they cannot stunlock and dies instantly midweight master theory rags aside the lagzooka is really some bullshit, and its users know it
There’s a way to beat tank builds like this with one shot. This is a secret technique amongst BVO builds as one last gambit. Look at that tank build, it has low mobility due to its heavy equipment. That’s our ticket. We BVOs can defeat them with our faster mobility. All it requires is to land one blow to your target before you enter cannon range, and then as a finisher…. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!!
Had a match against a build that was just running then turn around and use the lance that was basically its only strat and ofc bazookas. I was doing okay but my laser dagger just never hit even when it passed right through him and his attacks would hit me from miles away it was crazy
I faced someone like him and got a win with a medium light bipedal build. What I did was mostly flying on top of the tank ennemy while unloading all my ammo on him. The tank was unable to shoot upwards and was too heavy to be high enough to hit me. Try that next time
If they can get the net code issues fixed, those types of builds wont be such a problem. Kiting is effective against them and can help fight the lag hits. Also, vert missiles are a must imo, especially when you try and use the map like you did. Just hide behind cover and send missiles up and over. Stagger builds are gr8 and all, but not vert good on range control or coverage most of the time. I prefer a more balanced build rather than focused so I can be more flexable
don't play the missile launcher you have on left shoulder and fly high while shooting missiles and gund, use stagger as a window to get distance, dodge diagonally and with a bit of luck you can either stall for HP difference or punch in enough damage to win
What I’ve been doing as a medium build is just harassing them with missiles and running the clock. If they’re running anything that doesn’t have missiles to track me, i win. I can just dodge their songbirds or majestics on reaction.
I don't even know if its lag or just the Zooks getting BS Proximity Detonation. The two real options here are shield parry the zook shots, or pre-emptively AB towards to get past and move away that way. The missile setup there might also be an issue because by the time you get to fire again the ACS buildup on the tank is draining, or on the way to draining. Considering the Dual Viento / Butter spreader setup, could always put Drones on the missile slot and just AB away after firing. long reload, but its energy damage and follows the opponent. If you're worried about ACS it wont help but it could be a way to deal with this sort of threat along with harassing runners. Ultimately right now the games not balanced and lights have the worst of it. Keep on pushing LW bro we'll get ours at some point.
could have outran him to reduce your stagger and gotta weave left/right to throw off that targeting. also maybe could've gotten a stun off after you bait the bazookas. always a risk with lightweight build but that's the thrill we live for.
isn't light missile kite a counter to laser tanks? instead of getting hit by those rocket you could've dodged them? And assault boost away while your missiles are on CD?
Shields and hiding helped me to defeat such build once. Made sure to bait their lasers, deployed some shields, avoided the bazookas, kicked them, ran and repeated. Also, at least imo I would try going into more cramped areas when fighting with a tank since they get stuck a lot. Does not always work but sometimes it does vs never winning against a tank.
You Ravens really need to use your environment. Like man, on that map, theres a platform behind u use that for cover. U have the speed. Play tricks! Go up, and down on the platform and use your scanner to see their AC sillouete when behind cover. Predict their movement wheb ur behind cover. Also go zig zag on those pillar. Use the environent guys.
'member when Armored Core wasn't a knife-fighting-distance cluster fuck that 100% revolved around playing to a single gimmick? I 'member. Shit hasn't been this bad since the Heat mechanic both did insane damage AND killed your energy production. Oh well. We pretty much know that PvP was sort of hastily added in when we wouldn't stop asking about it. Maybe next time FROM will have something better balanced for us. It seems almost certain we'll have a new Armored Core in the relative near future now.
You gotta surrender your dignity and fly up and away for two minutes while firing rockets sometimes. Never let him close, ever. They chose that build because they don’t like playing the game so you shouldn’t play the game either
You can kill him with bvo dude, fly up and react dodge, circle or do an 8 around the tank. When u strafe one way the fcs can predict you movement, be sure to dodge the other way when "beep beep". Make it harder for fcs to predict u and enemy get a free hit. Btw use pulse blade.
You played this incorrectly. As a LW, what you should do is to fire the MLT-10 cells missiles and just run away for your life, keep your distance for at least 250m (which is very doable in this Map). Bazooka is too slow and inaccurate to hit a LW from afar, especially when you are Assault Boosting away from them. Eventually, they will get impatient and rely on firing the LCA charge shot at neutral instead, which again is very dodgable for LW given enough distance and the warning signal. You can then either go-in while LCA is overheated, or continue to rat them until 2 minutes timeout with a %HP advantage. I know ratting and playing passive is not a particularly honorable strategy, but against a statball with 4 direct fire cannons and no missiles that is definitely the best thing you can do. They are not trying to have a fair and fun fight against you anyways, you should do the same and make them regret their build choice whilst failing to chase you for 4 entire minutes.
I love how AC6 players whinge when the rock paper scissors effect kicks in against them. But nothing when it's on the other foot. I still use a BVO style build, and heavyweights are our cryponite. We have the advantage against most other stuff, though.
What you should've done is rat with your missiles, but if you're one of those people who think ratting is "wrong" and want to cqc then you need to work on your movement. First off, this game fires based on intercept which means that the projectiles go where you will be and not where you are. This means that quick boosting in the direction you're moving will have minor effects at best. Secondly, you're wasting EN on superfluous movements so that needs to be cleaned up. Thirdly, during latency you cannot trust what your monitor tells you since even if the shot looks off it'll hit you. So even if their projectiles look like they're going to miss you should take evasive action. Lastly, using a paperthin build and then complaining on the internet when you face difficulty will not make you better at the game, practice will.
FROM Software hasn't updated their garbage netcode since Dark Souls 1. Also for a billion dollar company they should be able to rent out some servers. In addition the bazooka lag hits need to go.
im new to this but ac6 combat seems really flawed😭 my prefered playstyle is light but it always feels like i have to put so much more effort in than any other weight class, not to mention every pvp build either being 2 massive cannons or two shotguns. doesnt feel like it encourages creativity at all lol. Again still new but it feels like alot of things have yet to be balanced even 7 months later
There are plenty of top players who play all weight classes and even unorthodox weapons. While playing more meta parts will help, I’d say in the long run it’s better to find a play style you like and practice it for a long time. It will pay off in the long run for your enjoyment of the game. On top of that joining the tournament scene via Discord is where the real heart of the AC experience lies.
The fact that the projectiles explode next to you even when they missed you is what's the problem. If they miss you then they also should not explode meaning you take no damage or stagger value. If they fix this then PVP will become fun again and you can just kite/dodge tank builds for a win every time.
That's called AOE. That's how area of effect works, there is a ton of splash damage on some weapons the trick is not letting them catch you on the ground or on a wall too much. BAIT them my friend so you can get free shots in while they wait for cooldowns!
@@PinkTuskedMammoth Thats the problem though, these weapons are detonating mid air rather than the projectile continuing to travel without exploding when they miss their target. Perhaps it is counted as a hit because of latency issues or the hitbox of the projectiles are larger than they should be. Either way, it is impossible to evade these weapons for the reason I mentioned. There should be no AOE if the projectile missed its target and has not yet hit the floor or a wall.
That entire fight was just wrong and dirty on so many levels I don't even blame you genuinely wtf else were you supposed to do given the load outs put against each other, no amount of skill or luck would have survived that one shot immediate K.O. I'd have just left instantly myself and I usually don't do that. I'd make an exception here.
Best bet is to just kite way above these guys and slowly deal damage over time, they can't follow/dodge/hit you but it's annoying for both sides that way.
You are playing BVO, your build at that time was extremely oppressive against all other fair light weight builds. Even against kiting rifle builds or anything remotely non meta. So what were the people who played fair builds suppose to do against YOU? Thus the degenerate dual zims, heavy tanks and lamm legs kite, laser switch heavies meta. All the same as ur BVO, all meta and oppressive against most fair builds.
This game’s balancing is actual dogshit. If stagger wasn’t a thing you’d at least have been able to keep dodging and peppering him, but since a single hit means your AC forgets it has legs and your armor turns into butter you really had no choice but to run away and play like a coward.
You should have hard rat that setup. You can launch missiles and just run away. I play a light weight kite in S rank. This is s misplay by you. Launch your first volley and then AB away. It’s lame but my god learn to kite
This may sound dumb but stay close to em and move around em, they wont be able to hit SHIT depending on the fcs,plus take that fatass rocket launcher off yo shit n get a new engine,us lightweights only advantage is speed and running out of En too fast means death,as for the launcher,that mf aint doin nun the 6count one cant do
It's been a while since this video has been out, and I've refrained from replying to all comments as usual.
First of all, my rapid development as a pilot, ACFA helped me understand piloting really well, and I've gained a lot of experience through my hours in AC6. At the point of becoming an S-rank pilot, you completely understand this game and its PVP aspect. As stated by the description, this is a rock, paper, scissors pvp game. You roll a lightweight combo stagger into a laser tank and you will lose 95% of the time.
To those of you who suggest kiting and using missiles: You're aware I can't fly forever, and my missiles pelt for very little stagger/damage on the target on a wide CD duration. What's going to happen once I run out of energy and reach the ground? The laser tank that's not using any energy whatsoever to chase me will roll over in front of me and we still get the lag situation with the lasers.
The only thing I've found to successfully throw ow laser tank latency lag is to quickly side boost to the sides, between lag and FCS recalculation it's a little less likely to be hit by these.
This is a Viento/Missile/Melee build. There's absolutely no way missile spam will win this, even switching my missiles to laser drones won't do much, again, it's a rps. What are your thoughts?
This hit my recommended again. So I'll bite again. After spending more than me in ranked. This isn't even remotely the worse thing I've seen as a light pilot but it is annoying that you get staggered once and deleted. To deter this type of behavior you usually need one of two things, a wall to stop the build from doing what it wants, whatever form that takes. And / or a way to stay away from it.
Those tanks which do this are usually slow with 40% damage reduction and a shield if they're smart. Or a Fortaleza which is tuned for closing distance when le grounded.
Stat ng airborne will keep distance but it won't help dodge the zooks. The nachtrier legs can help with that with a powerful enough booster.
BVOs have also never been meta but have classically trained the meta designs so competing with anything super top tier is going to be like that.
I can also confirm that lag + hit detection n is what makes these specific things irritating. Unfortunately as you stated, the side to side QBs help throw off the tracker ng but at some ranges that wont help.
I have seen hyper aggressive attacks work well against some of those but that still hinges on dodging the zoooks. After all this time. I just put a pulse shield on mores designs.
"I'm here to do two things. Fire laser cannons and build furniture wrong... and I'm all out of furniture."
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I refuse to believe that bazooka hit him
They have a proximity detonation, you just have to be close enough.
@@jasonrustmann7535he was more than 3 to 4 ac widths away, that's not proximity detonation, it's lag
Net code. This almost always happens when I get jump kicked personally.
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bs like that is why I refuse to play ac6 pvp. I want to love it so much but in a game like this, precision is key and it just isn't there.
bro watching him just roll after you while glowing blue was terrifying
😂😂
I'm surprised he charged them, i would have waited for faster dodges, and you avoid stagger punish. Vientos are a menace.
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You just weren't flying high enough
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You got beat by Ikea bro...
…with an among us guy on the side
His remains got send back in an ikea plastic bag
@@R-XI_Sulla Ravens plastic nest
LOL
tanks may be beatable but latency isn't
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Best tip would be when they start getting close assault boost up and past and away to reset the distance
its easy to take for granted that most players dont know about quick turn synergy with assault boost unfortunately
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Lesson: the more effort someone's put into their Decals is someone you need to fear more
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0:51 this is an actual crime
Yea Idk why they buffed the explosive projectiles for like nearly 3 - 4 patches straight. It’s actually ridiculous.
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Bait the opponent into missing his laser beams. Since you're faster, try to preemptively react to the red box ping that goes off when an AC is firing its blast. Also because you're fast, spin around him as you kite your bullets. You've got Vientos, so use them! 🤟🏼
The problem is there is no preemptive dodging the second you are stunned.
And that's just a matter of when.
But you're strategy is correct.
That lag also is really bad for this guy, bro was about a whole ac clear from a lot of those rocket shots and they still hit
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Ah, yes. Get lucky despite t he lag.
Deal with lag tank is pain in ass but there are some methods you can increase the chance of winning. For example, in this map, use the platform surrounding the map as well as the pillar. Since you're lightweight, you should able to circle around the obstacle quiet quick to avoid shot. You can safely assume most of people who use meta build have a poor understanding of terrain and cover, if not, your build should still give you the advantage maneuver around obstacle. Another method is to use aerial but since you're using BVO build, vertical thrust isn't very good in that case. Tank usually is a dead meat when you have twin dual missiles. Dual missile is designed to counter target that don't utilize aerial combat since vertical launch create a difficult-to-doge trajectory. Along with its quick reload time, you can eat a tank alive as long as you stay in a higher altitude than the tank.
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I wonder how many of these tank enjoyers played through PVE SP with that build, or just slave meta?
they tend to be free farm if you switch to double harris, allmind and rockets
dude you are playing bvo and complain about meta ... you know glasshouse and such
@@hex5874 it's all fair game. He should just not play the ranked. And yeh, that's a pretty common meta build as well. I advise he spend more time in arial combat against tanks, those canons have good trajectory.
The fact that the projectiles explode next to you even when they missed you is what's the problem. If they miss you then they also should not explode meaning you take no damage or stagger value. If they fix this then PVP will become fun again and you can just kite/dodge tank builds for a win every time.
@@Hcastr44222explosives have a proximity detonation to make them able to hit things and set ranged detonation to reward keeping optimal distance. the problem is Internet latency which he clearly shouldn't have been hit at the end and is what I assumed the video was having an issue with till i read his comment 🤭
and yet. the community(not all) turned a blind eye to the weight class imbalance
Don't care about balance, the only thing i care is that my quad gatling is ready to dispense lead to anyone, be it PvE or PvP
and i hope they will have ping compensate of laser weapon travel time, if you are LW or MW vs HW with charged laser weapons and having bad ping, the round is already finished even from the start.
@@gabrielemaresi2645 holy based
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1.Switch to missiles that reload faster 2.Moar quickboost 3.Jumping should be premeditated, not reactionary 4.'Rat' to recover ACS meter
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Jesus that hit at the end 😮
We can’t all be RamenRook 😔
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Strafing in the same direction doesn't help because at some point the fcs figures you out
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I wish FromSoft balances the tank build better, at least like the previous Armored Core games where your aiming speed is slower with heavy builds.
With lag, you can't dodge, so you're only option is don't get close, run and shoot missiles to get the AP lead, and time him out -
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if you encounter this use the timer to your advantage if you're a light weight build. you can do minor damage, and then just assault boost out of the way the rest of time. sometimes that's all you can do in a situation like this.
What i don't understand are tanks like that have a top speed of around 270 and his lightweight build should have at least 370 top speed, yet the tank was able to catch up without even assault boosting.
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Options 1. You could rat them like here 0:30 only for the full game.
Options 2. Quick boost everytime you hear it like here 0:39. Make sure you have an AC capable of that type of energy though.(You’re not carrying much so you most likely do, or can
.)
Option 3. Infinitely fly so you have less of a chance to be hit by a rocket, and avoid splash damage.
What would they expect if you rat them? For you to just stand there and get one shotted?
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This is why tanks need a nerf. They shouldnt be able to just roll up on a LW using Alula boosters without any downside. And they have near perfect 360 tracking. In games past, of you were fast enough, all you had to do was get on the side or back of the tank and they couldnt track you very well. This is how it should be. Now they dont even have that downside because they track in a full circle. Its so stupid.
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I think that was my chief complaint about tank legs in VI when I started playing it after coming straight from 3rd Gen AC. They don't seem to really have a downside other than piss poor air mobility (which doesn't matter if you can just arm your AC better than an Aegis Crusier) whereas older gens had you tradeoff being able to carry any combination of weapons with extremely poor turning and mobility (aka, if it wasn't in front of you, you were going to die).
Yeah the proxy detonatuon in this game is way too punishing. And I also can not BELIEVE that they didnt nerf tf outta the zimmermans last patch. Smh.
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Even bypedal push-build ACs struggle with this 4 buttons fridges
0:51 Let’s take a moment to admire that the bazooka in fact DID NOT hit you 😂
They seriously need do something about their net code or hitboxes because I'm tired of losing to ghost hits. But when my shots land they just tickle em or don't even register at all
Did you not notice no bazooka "hit" him the entire time? There's a stat called Blast Radius.
@uberfacsol blast radius or not, it still hits like it's a direct impact. Blast raidus shouldn't be that powerful at all imo because it's literally abusement of hitboxes
@@uberfacsolThe blast radius of bazookas is 15 metres. He was more than 15 metres away from whereever the Bazookas were when they exploded. The explosion is approximately what the blast area is supposed to be. The edge of the explosions that damaged him were nowhere near him mutliple times. In PVE, if the bazooka explodes that far way you do 0 damage.
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I stopped playing AC6 PvP after I lost my B rank promos because on my third win, the opponent (a missile spamming kite) alt+F4'd in terminal armor during the second round, which would have been my last win.
Then I got the same guy with the same build (and actually the same build from this video, they're all just copying it) three fucking games in a row. I was running a VE-20B with laser pistols and auroras. nothing I could do as a medium weight, didn't even have the mobility to dodge those fucking grenade launchers. I got him close a couple times, but he'd literally park in the middle of the map and play Tower Defense.
So. Fucking. Dumb.
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man builds lightest possible AC entirely dependent on stunlocking the enemy to death, proceeds to meet enemy they cannot stunlock and dies instantly
midweight master theory
rags aside the lagzooka is really some bullshit, and its users know it
In the most of the time, you need something called skill to play light builds
The lag strat is always the strongest in fromsoft games. Never forget that.
Gotta love new armored core where all you have to do is press a button to win. I miss AC4 so much is sad.
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There’s a way to beat tank builds like this with one shot. This is a secret technique amongst BVO builds as one last gambit. Look at that tank build, it has low mobility due to its heavy equipment. That’s our ticket. We BVOs can defeat them with our faster mobility. All it requires is to land one blow to your target before you enter cannon range, and then as a finisher….
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!!
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Seeing this made me think I got really lucky today in ranked. I kept fighting other honest builds and it was great. I won majority of them too.
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Hacks to stop the guy from moving.
0:37 How were you getting hit????
0:51 The lag is real 💀☠️
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Had a match against a build that was just running then turn around and use the lance that was basically its only strat and ofc bazookas. I was doing okay but my laser dagger just never hit even when it passed right through him and his attacks would hit me from miles away it was crazy
Wiggle left and right while back peddeling in the air. Small movements messes up tracking big time.
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Rock paper scissors
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You hold backwards and keep praying
I faced someone like him and got a win with a medium light bipedal build. What I did was mostly flying on top of the tank ennemy while unloading all my ammo on him. The tank was unable to shoot upwards and was too heavy to be high enough to hit me. Try that next time
Were you using Vientos?
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If they can get the net code issues fixed, those types of builds wont be such a problem. Kiting is effective against them and can help fight the lag hits. Also, vert missiles are a must imo, especially when you try and use the map like you did. Just hide behind cover and send missiles up and over. Stagger builds are gr8 and all, but not vert good on range control or coverage most of the time. I prefer a more balanced build rather than focused so I can be more flexable
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don't play the missile launcher you have on left shoulder and fly high while shooting missiles and gund, use stagger as a window to get distance, dodge diagonally and with a bit of luck you can either stall for HP difference or punch in enough damage to win
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He cast the lost in ikea laser
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Off topic bit your color scheme is amazing
What I’ve been doing as a medium build is just harassing them with missiles and running the clock. If they’re running anything that doesn’t have missiles to track me, i win. I can just dodge their songbirds or majestics on reaction.
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Back laser drones and missles
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Sick color scheme, but I am sorry about the lag tank.
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Lmao that's terrifying😢
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your AC looks a lot sexier tho@@YTKaedeIchigo
Just need to have HP lead so use your missile and just ran away they cant keep up with you
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Yo i love how you make the Ravens Nest from AC3 n SL
ty you're the first to notice
I don't even know if its lag or just the Zooks getting BS Proximity Detonation. The two real options here are shield parry the zook shots, or pre-emptively AB towards to get past and move away that way. The missile setup there might also be an issue because by the time you get to fire again the ACS buildup on the tank is draining, or on the way to draining.
Considering the Dual Viento / Butter spreader setup, could always put Drones on the missile slot and just AB away after firing. long reload, but its energy damage and follows the opponent. If you're worried about ACS it wont help but it could be a way to deal with this sort of threat along with harassing runners.
Ultimately right now the games not balanced and lights have the worst of it. Keep on pushing LW bro we'll get ours at some point.
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Use dual allen screwdrivers. It worked for me
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could have outran him to reduce your stagger and gotta weave left/right to throw off that targeting. also maybe could've gotten a stun off after you bait the bazookas. always a risk with lightweight build but that's the thrill we live for.
Nothing if you ain't looked in
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isn't light missile kite a counter to laser tanks? instead of getting hit by those rocket you could've dodged them? And assault boost away while your missiles are on CD?
the more I play PVP, the more I hate it. Not just AC6, but it's definitely the worst offender as of late.
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Shields and hiding helped me to defeat such build once. Made sure to bait their lasers, deployed some shields, avoided the bazookas, kicked them, ran and repeated. Also, at least imo I would try going into more cramped areas when fighting with a tank since they get stuck a lot.
Does not always work but sometimes it does vs never winning against a tank.
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I ask myself this everytime...
You Ravens really need to use your environment. Like man, on that map, theres a platform behind u use that for cover. U have the speed. Play tricks! Go up, and down on the platform and use your scanner to see their AC sillouete when behind cover. Predict their movement wheb ur behind cover. Also go zig zag on those pillar. Use the environent guys.
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Guess I'll just die.jpg
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Missle, Missle, Assault boost away
Also use more vertical movement against tanks
'member when Armored Core wasn't a knife-fighting-distance cluster fuck that 100% revolved around playing to a single gimmick?
I 'member.
Shit hasn't been this bad since the Heat mechanic both did insane damage AND killed your energy production.
Oh well. We pretty much know that PvP was sort of hastily added in when we wouldn't stop asking about it. Maybe next time FROM will have something better balanced for us. It seems almost certain we'll have a new Armored Core in the relative near future now.
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You gotta surrender your dignity and fly up and away for two minutes while firing rockets sometimes. Never let him close, ever. They chose that build because they don’t like playing the game so you shouldn’t play the game either
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You can kill him with bvo dude, fly up and react dodge, circle or do an 8 around the tank.
When u strafe one way the fcs can predict you movement, be sure to dodge the other way when "beep beep". Make it harder for fcs to predict u and enemy get a free hit.
Btw use pulse blade.
welcome to Rank Match Up lol
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You played this incorrectly. As a LW, what you should do is to fire the MLT-10 cells missiles and just run away for your life, keep your distance for at least 250m (which is very doable in this Map). Bazooka is too slow and inaccurate to hit a LW from afar, especially when you are Assault Boosting away from them. Eventually, they will get impatient and rely on firing the LCA charge shot at neutral instead, which again is very dodgable for LW given enough distance and the warning signal. You can then either go-in while LCA is overheated, or continue to rat them until 2 minutes timeout with a %HP advantage.
I know ratting and playing passive is not a particularly honorable strategy, but against a statball with 4 direct fire cannons and no missiles that is definitely the best thing you can do. They are not trying to have a fair and fun fight against you anyways, you should do the same and make them regret their build choice whilst failing to chase you for 4 entire minutes.
I love how AC6 players whinge when the rock paper scissors effect kicks in against them.
But nothing when it's on the other foot. I still use a BVO style build, and heavyweights are our cryponite. We have the advantage against most other stuff, though.
What you should've done is rat with your missiles, but if you're one of those people who think ratting is "wrong" and want to cqc then you need to work on your movement.
First off, this game fires based on intercept which means that the projectiles go where you will be and not where you are. This means that quick boosting in the direction you're moving will have minor effects at best.
Secondly, you're wasting EN on superfluous movements so that needs to be cleaned up.
Thirdly, during latency you cannot trust what your monitor tells you since even if the shot looks off it'll hit you. So even if their projectiles look like they're going to miss you should take evasive action.
Lastly, using a paperthin build and then complaining on the internet when you face difficulty will not make you better at the game, practice will.
Their rockets seem to be detonating in proximity as opposed to impact, is that an intended behavior?
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Love your colour scheme
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FROM Software hasn't updated their garbage netcode since Dark Souls 1. Also for a billion dollar company they should be able to rent out some servers.
In addition the bazooka lag hits need to go.
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Fun for me, not fun for thee moment. Jesus, you got 100-0 instantly.
Always leave a match if it's a trash build. They don't deserve a good match
No more stun guns 😂😂😂😂
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You're supposed to quit playing if you play anything other than a heavy laser/bazooka AC
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quite frankly.. nothing is balanced in this game. but having more AP is broken
its meta versus antimeta rat catcher bro xd viento + missile its rock, papper scissor game
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im new to this but ac6 combat seems really flawed😭 my prefered playstyle is light but it always feels like i have to put so much more effort in than any other weight class, not to mention every pvp build either being 2 massive cannons or two shotguns. doesnt feel like it encourages creativity at all lol.
Again still new but it feels like alot of things have yet to be balanced even 7 months later
There are plenty of top players who play all weight classes and even unorthodox weapons. While playing more meta parts will help, I’d say in the long run it’s better to find a play style you like and practice it for a long time. It will pay off in the long run for your enjoyment of the game. On top of that joining the tournament scene via Discord is where the real heart of the AC experience lies.
bro bad on the Alt-f4. He beat you give him his win and just accept your loss.
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Since you are the one with missile. Sadly only way to win is playing rat with 10 cell.
The fact that the projectiles explode next to you even when they missed you is what's the problem. If they miss you then they also should not explode meaning you take no damage or stagger value. If they fix this then PVP will become fun again and you can just kite/dodge tank builds for a win every time.
That's called AOE. That's how area of effect works, there is a ton of splash damage on some weapons the trick is not letting them catch you on the ground or on a wall too much. BAIT them my friend so you can get free shots in while they wait for cooldowns!
@@PinkTuskedMammoth Thats the problem though, these weapons are detonating mid air rather than the projectile continuing to travel without exploding when they miss their target. Perhaps it is counted as a hit because of latency issues or the hitbox of the projectiles are larger than they should be. Either way, it is impossible to evade these weapons for the reason I mentioned. There should be no AOE if the projectile missed its target and has not yet hit the floor or a wall.
@@Hcastr44222 they have a distance that they air burst at as well they dont just go forever
@@Hcastr44222 besides in this video the time he got hit it hit the ground next too him not the air
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That entire fight was just wrong and dirty on so many levels I don't even blame you genuinely wtf else were you supposed to do given the load outs put against each other, no amount of skill or luck would have survived that one shot immediate K.O. I'd have just left instantly myself and I usually don't do that. I'd make an exception here.
Best bet is to just kite way above these guys and slowly deal damage over time, they can't follow/dodge/hit you but it's annoying for both sides that way.
@@Tacticaviator7 at that point it's kinda just suppress until timer runs out both rounds and that's not a fun time for anybody
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not that i guess
That's when I ping him with one set of missiles and run for 2 minutes. Can't get made when you build such a ridiculous build.
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It do feels like that... that's why i abandoned lightweights.
You are playing BVO, your build at that time was extremely oppressive against all other fair light weight builds. Even against kiting rifle builds or anything remotely non meta. So what were the people who played fair builds suppose to do against YOU? Thus the degenerate dual zims, heavy tanks and lamm legs kite, laser switch heavies meta. All the same as ur BVO, all meta and oppressive against most fair builds.
Weakest tank enjoyer
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Lmfao
Wooo tanks let’s goooooooo you Make the game uninteresting
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Don't play lightweights 🤷
Lmao play perfect or just die I guess
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git gud, probably
This game’s balancing is actual dogshit. If stagger wasn’t a thing you’d at least have been able to keep dodging and peppering him, but since a single hit means your AC forgets it has legs and your armor turns into butter you really had no choice but to run away and play like a coward.
And that's why PVP is a big mess in this game...
You should have hard rat that setup. You can launch missiles and just run away. I play a light weight kite in S rank. This is s misplay by you. Launch your first volley and then AB away. It’s lame but my god learn to kite
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This may sound dumb but stay close to em and move around em, they wont be able to hit SHIT depending on the fcs,plus take that fatass rocket launcher off yo shit n get a new engine,us lightweights only advantage is speed and running out of En too fast means death,as for the launcher,that mf aint doin nun the 6count one cant do
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@@YTKaedeIchigo no bro time has shown me I'm wrong,it's all about what works for you sorry😅
give up and play another game lol this ones busted...
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Stop kiting