My favorite TDH album closer, without a doubt. Love Life and Death as a track, but this works so well because it's so foreboding. Eerie, menacing, catchy, and almost sad. "Travelled too far from the river's side" is one of my favorite TDH lines; our guy is too far gone and he knows it. He should have stayed home.
Just curious, was this comment made bevore Act V? Because don't get me wrong I love both this song (the "Travelled too far from the river's side" part is also one of my favorite TDH lines) and "Life and Death"! ...But they just can't compete with the "losing-my-shit" caliber-moment that is the "The Moon" Reprise in "A Beginning". "Dear apparition, while my senses last Is absolution far too much to ask? Will you forgive a truly troubled past?" Just kills me. Every single time. And then the "The Lake South" reprise to finish it off. So good!
The line is more like begging than a threat. The first half is his plea, and the second half is his rapidly declining pride. I don't think the Boy won this one.
Listening to Acts I-IV altogether makes me have chills. I think this is a brilliant ending to this Act. I feel the emotion of all Acts coming into this song. The ending was so nostalgic of where his mind was in the end of Act III. Now patiently waiting (hopefully not another 6 years) for the next Act.
For some reason this song has gotten some flak for not being "a strong ending". The ambiguity of it is what makes it so compelling! A showdown between the pimp/priest and the protagonist? How can you get stronger than that?!
+Maxwell Henry Daum i agree this is a strong ending, but it takes more to beat the ending to Act III, although, this without a doubt i would place as the 2nd strongest, so don't get me wrong, this is still amazing.
+bruce wayne It doesn't need to beat Act III. Act III is closure for the first leg of the Boy's journey. Act IV is the beginning of the next one. There's a distinct difference between before and after Act III. The sins committed on this side of the tracks are the Boy's alone. He's no longer the good guy. There's no more justice to seek, no more guidance to be gained from the plight of his mother. He's truly alone now, and to put it mildly he done goofed. The path he walks is very different one from that which he walked in acts I-III. A much darker path. The last two tracks on Act IV are only the start of the suffering I predict will continue well into Act V.
I'm on the fence on how much I like the end of Act III. It fits very well on the album, but among the closers Vital Vessel Vindicates has a special place in my heart. The way it sounds simultaneously hopeless and hopeful, the imagery it invokes in my mind, the way I immediately understood what the sounds at the very end meant. I also find the sinister sound of Ouroboros appealing. It's like a cliffhanger ending, but I'm suspending my judgement on it until Act V. It Act V doesn't deliver it'll affect my view of Ouroboros.
I bet you thought that you'd succeed Pulling the wool right over me Hard to believe this snake stayed in the grass Just long enough to catch your rabbit's feet With telescoping glances Hands romanced enticing you to keep Laboring against the clock in spite of secrecy You couldn't know revealed itself To me the second you decided to compete I fell down then I fell apart I never wanted to hurt no one I never wanted to be your city's son I cried out to his crooked heart I never wanted to hurt no one No one but you I bet you thought that you could breathe A satisfied sigh of relief A terrible thing, forgetting where you came from Or have you trouble when you fall asleep I've seen you fabricate, manipulate and here, you masquerade But if we're poaching ghosts, you know I've got a few that I would raise Settle yourself As long as i'm protected You can bet your secret's safe with me I fell down then I fell apart I never wanted to hurt no one I never wanted to be your city's son I cried out to his crooked heart I never wanted to hurt no one No one but you Lost my soul In the place of the great deceiver Foolish hearts led foolish plans awry They told me don't veer far from your home Try never to leave her Near I landed here I'll live and die Travelled too far from the river's side It wasn't long before I felt nothing below me And all of the ground I thought I'd gained Taken away Thought I was strong; not strong enough My mettle was bending Foolish plans kissed foolish hearts goodbye Travelled too far from the river's side
The beginning of this song really reminds of Jack Conte come to think of it. There might be a specific song but I can't think of it off the top of my head.
There is a story that is told in the "acts" albums (the band's other releases don't deal with the story) So far, 4 of the 6 acts of the story have been released. Here's a good starting point for looking into the story starting from act 1 www.lakeandtheriver.com/index.php?showtopic=2366 You can also find song-by-song descriptions and interpretations for each song acts 1-4 here www.lakeandtheriver.com/index.php?showtopic=194
+FullmetalTriforce I find that the best way to think about the Acts is to imagine them as a film expressed through music. Casey has described each song as a "scene" and picturing it that way makes it easy for you to appreciate how much effort he put into painting a picture for all of us with sound. I really hope he scores a film at some point because he would be brilliant at it.
My favorite TDH album closer, without a doubt. Love Life and Death as a track, but this works so well because it's so foreboding. Eerie, menacing, catchy, and almost sad. "Travelled too far from the river's side" is one of my favorite TDH lines; our guy is too far gone and he knows it. He should have stayed home.
+Joshua Wesselius my fave line(s) is/are "Foolish hearts lead foolish plans awry" and it's closing counterpart "Foolish plans kissed foolish hearts goodbye"
Just curious, was this comment made bevore Act V? Because don't get me wrong I love both this song (the "Travelled too far from the river's side" part is also one of my favorite TDH lines) and "Life and Death"!
...But they just can't compete with the "losing-my-shit" caliber-moment that is the "The Moon" Reprise in "A Beginning".
"Dear apparition, while my senses last
Is absolution far too much to ask?
Will you forgive a truly troubled past?"
Just kills me. Every single time. And then the "The Lake South" reprise to finish it off. So good!
Reading these comments, yes it was before Act V. Those lucky bastards...only found this band myself a few months ago...
"I never wanted to hurt no one... no one but you" the pimp and the priest better be running like stink.
The line is more like begging than a threat. The first half is his plea, and the second half is his rapidly declining pride. I don't think the Boy won this one.
Each song on this album is so original and full of talent. I love it.
This is the most brilliant song ever.
Listening to Acts I-IV altogether makes me have chills. I think this is a brilliant ending to this Act. I feel the emotion of all Acts coming into this song. The ending was so nostalgic of where his mind was in the end of Act III. Now patiently waiting (hopefully not another 6 years) for the next Act.
Next act comes out in September!!!!! :D
I knoooow! I'm so excited!! :D I've listened to "Gloria" about 150 times already haha
Kaara S is what they said and then it basically took like until October to actually somewhat release
Found this band yesterday and I'm already a fan
They were at Pukkelpop and there was almost nobody in the tent, what a shame! Cause they were one of, if not the best band on Pukkelpop.
+Alexandre .Belli That is how it is every time I've seen them live. Always the best band around but they get no appreciation. Sad
yeah. people have no appreciation for delicate composition. They just want cool stuff
For some reason this song has gotten some flak for not being "a strong ending". The ambiguity of it is what makes it so compelling! A showdown between the pimp/priest and the protagonist? How can you get stronger than that?!
+Maxwell Henry Daum I honestly think that this particular track has the strongest lyrics.
+Maxwell Henry Daum i agree this is a strong ending, but it takes more to beat the ending to Act III, although, this without a doubt i would place as the 2nd strongest, so don't get me wrong, this is still amazing.
+bruce wayne It doesn't need to beat Act III. Act III is closure for the first leg of the Boy's journey. Act IV is the beginning of the next one. There's a distinct difference between before and after Act III. The sins committed on this side of the tracks are the Boy's alone. He's no longer the good guy. There's no more justice to seek, no more guidance to be gained from the plight of his mother. He's truly alone now, and to put it mildly he done goofed. The path he walks is very different one from that which he walked in acts I-III. A much darker path. The last two tracks on Act IV are only the start of the suffering I predict will continue well into Act V.
SaltpeterTaffy I didn't say that it had to... :D
I'm on the fence on how much I like the end of Act III. It fits very well on the album, but among the closers Vital Vessel Vindicates has a special place in my heart. The way it sounds simultaneously hopeless and hopeful, the imagery it invokes in my mind, the way I immediately understood what the sounds at the very end meant. I also find the sinister sound of Ouroboros appealing. It's like a cliffhanger ending, but I'm suspending my judgement on it until Act V. It Act V doesn't deliver it'll affect my view of Ouroboros.
Knowing the story, this is the biggest "oh... shit" part of this album
A great climax to a great story
I've never actually listened to this song fully. And I've listened to this album like 30 times
I bet you thought that you'd succeed
Pulling the wool right over me
Hard to believe this snake stayed in the grass
Just long enough to catch your rabbit's feet
With telescoping glances
Hands romanced enticing you to keep
Laboring against the clock in spite of secrecy
You couldn't know revealed itself
To me the second you decided to compete
I fell down then I fell apart
I never wanted to hurt no one
I never wanted to be your city's son
I cried out to his crooked heart
I never wanted to hurt no one
No one but you
I bet you thought that you could breathe
A satisfied sigh of relief
A terrible thing, forgetting where you came from
Or have you trouble when you fall asleep
I've seen you fabricate, manipulate and here, you masquerade
But if we're poaching ghosts, you know I've got a few that I would raise
Settle yourself
As long as i'm protected
You can bet your secret's safe with me
I fell down then I fell apart
I never wanted to hurt no one
I never wanted to be your city's son
I cried out to his crooked heart
I never wanted to hurt no one
No one but you
Lost my soul
In the place of the great deceiver
Foolish hearts led foolish plans awry
They told me don't veer far from your home
Try never to leave her
Near I landed here I'll live and die
Travelled too far from the river's side
It wasn't long before I felt nothing below me
And all of the ground I thought I'd gained
Taken away
Thought I was strong; not strong enough
My mettle was bending
Foolish plans kissed foolish hearts goodbye
Travelled too far from the river's side
The beginning of this song really reminds of Jack Conte come to think of it. There might be a specific song but I can't think of it off the top of my head.
What's all this about the pimp and the priest? Is there a story told with the albums, like Marianas Trench's Ever After?
I'm a new fan ; _ ;
There is a story that is told in the "acts" albums (the band's other releases don't deal with the story) So far, 4 of the 6 acts of the story have been released. Here's a good starting point for looking into the story starting from act 1 www.lakeandtheriver.com/index.php?showtopic=2366
You can also find song-by-song descriptions and interpretations for each song acts 1-4 here www.lakeandtheriver.com/index.php?showtopic=194
Brandon Hoffman
Cool, thanks!!
+FullmetalTriforce
I find that the best way to think about the Acts is to imagine them as a film expressed through music. Casey has described each song as a "scene" and picturing it that way makes it easy for you to appreciate how much effort he put into painting a picture for all of us with sound.
I really hope he scores a film at some point because he would be brilliant at it.
best part starts at 3:21
For some reason the opening reminds me of The Legend of Zelda.
Oh my gosh. So amazing.
Amazing as always!! 💕
ThE NEXT ACT IS SO SOON IM EXCITED
AMAZING
Prison School
What?