I was about to say this exactly. The funniest part is the fact that I hadn't noticed until I saw it now, in the video, always thought it was some weird mutant fish.
Ceremonial burial uses the Ankh for it's symbol, which makes perfect sense, and the gunpowder icon is the Flintlock mechanism, which makes perfect sense as well.
My granddad and I used to play this game side by side when I was a kid and visited my grandparents on the weekend, and I still play. The man would CONSTANTLY crush the game on Sid with, get this, the Americans. He would work on the same game save for actual weeks. I still don't fully understand how, but he would just survive until the Industrial era into the modern era. Sometimes I would play his older saves, and the map would just be full of American baby blue territory, and covered in captured cities named "Austin 1 to X", he'd name captured cities after me lol. He would play past a victory condition to literally conquer the world. When you look at the current frontlines, you just see stacks over stacks of Radar Artillery, Tactical Nukes, Mech Infantry and Modern Armor.. and captured workers that he would NUKE to get rid of so he wouldn't have to manage/wait for after ending turns lmao. Some of my favorite memories with this game. I miss that man.
I absolutely love this one. As a casual player of civ3, deep-dive into civ3 mechanism is also interesting but this fun poke at aesthetics was super fun
Intermediate art that looked fine from a distance and left for the release. At that time it wasn't rare that unfinished or programmer art would end up in the game. More often than not the icon creation is disregarded and given to less skilled artists.
I love this game. The design, the gameplay... the modability (medieval and ancient era focused mods hehe) Im sad that newer civilizations are just not as good or appealing. The nostalgia vibe probably strike and help but... idk it's something that I like so much in civ3 that I can't find in others civilization.
It's nostalgia + genuinely being an amazing game. But because the game has incredible replay value, I don't think that's bad? Like, I wish I could play Mario 64 or w/e for a decade and not get bored but sadly that's not possible.
@@suedeciviii7142 If you get into romhacks or speedrunning then you can totally play Mario 64 indefinitely and not get bored, assuming you already enjoy the features of the vanilla game. Civ (and many many other games) are like chess in that they are adversarial and thus timeless, whereas sm64 is a single-player experience so the players have to set their own goals after they "complete" the main quest
Im just in the process of making tech art for my mod, so this was entertaining to watch. Ive continued the established abstractions and liminality style I think its a great way of representing the crucial idea behind a tech in a digestable and understandable (mostly) at a glance way, and its actually a rather fun challenge to figure out what fits. Thanks for the video! It gavee me a few ideas already!
3:22 I think that third thing to the right if its for gunpowder is the metal bit of the firearm that contained a bit of flint that when it struck the pan would cause a spark that would light the gunpowder that then would case a reaction that would fire the bullet forward. the top bit when you fire would pivot forward (to the right here). also I think a lot of the tech from I seen upp untill 4:02 are basic shapes made in a 3d modeler and then renderd whit no extra effect remember this is 1995 rendering just the default cubeplaced on some flat plane in blender whit two light sources pointing at it today takes about 0.005 sec would take about a hour back then if not more.
Because CIV games never relied on beautiful visuals as selling point unlike Total War games. Even today they still included the option to run CIV 6 for low end PCs.
Love your videos, my dad and my older brother love this game and have been trying to get me to play it. So I started to play about 3 months ago and was complete trash until I watched your videos, well still a novice but not has bad as I used to be.
Oh man I remember this thread on the server, forgot you were gonna make a video out of it. Also who just prints "TOP SECRET" in bold army-crate lettering on a manila envelope? Unless it's a decoy, you're just begging for the melting mannequin man to come steal it.
I guess it is different in countries, but in Hungary afaik it's mandatory to mark documents as secret / top secret. It's a distinction that you should not open the folder and/or should return the document to a police department or other place.
that sounds like how secret documents are typically handled elsewhere, although it's usually marked at the top of each page and there's typically a colored border around the documents (and sometimes on the folders) here, not bold block letters that might as well say STEAL ME. I think our system is derived from the USA's, but I haven't gotten a look at any American secrets. Maybe I should check my garage and/or War Thunder's forums?
Civ 3 were my first civ, when I was 11. And it is a first videogaming love. Something you just can't undone. So I always missed for art design features in later games of series. I will just left them here cause why not. 1. Leaders appearence based on era of their development. Bald Jeanne d'Arc. Damn I really remembered the image when saw V for Vendetta. And it was so engaging and funny sometimes. Evolution of engagement is riding a wrong way with the series. 2. Abandoned feature. Definetly exessive, but... The palace view. I just liked it. 3. Another abandoned one. The most tearful for fans. And mine tears are a part of the bowl. City view. It was a level of flowing artifical ingame glory that never been brought to me by any other game. 4. The weird one. I absolutly loved the way railroad grid looked like in third civ. I was obssesive with desire to cover all my territory by railroad in fifth civ. And it look horrendous.
Hey was just wondering do you still do vids on civ3? If so could you do a bunch of play through vids on how to achieve each victory style with gameplay of you playing and explaining what to do for each?
Hey suede, can you do an in depth analysis of naval combat, landings, establishing a foothold on another continent, and how to defend against marines and beserks. Also ranked naval units.
@suedeciviii7142 gotcha. What about all the nuances of ranged and bombard units like archers, trebuchet and in up into artillery bombers, and the thing where if an enemy walks by a tank it will bombard for one health?
Do you play this (CIV III) on a new windows operating system? I have never gotten it to work on any system prior to Vista. Any chance you could do a tutorial on how to load and operate on newer systems? thanks. I haven't played in almost 10 years now, so I get my fix watching your vids. It's the greatest game ever.
Hey, Suede, i'm curious, what is your mod list that you use in your videos? Odd video to ask this on since there isnt much of any gameplay, but i see all the extra settler options and the game functioning in full screen, and i want to get some QOL things to improve my experience when playing this on modern devices
google popheads civ 3 for the happy face mod And then I use the map grid for multiplayer stuff. That's it. Extra worker options can be enabled in the settings menu
@@BasedPeter The ones on the wiki are good. The ones from the conquests scenarios aren't there, so I just checked the game files. They open fine in GIMP.
I was a kid when I played civilisation 3, when I saw these icons and images I was like soo stupid as a kid I'd be like oh if I get that big eye on the triangle thingy I'd be able to get the guy sitting down ( theology) also I thought that maybe chivalry is just Christianity cause of the cross icon. Then when I got the tech I'd be like cool now I get to build Christian knights.
i love the monotheism thing, looks like something out of those geocities sites also, always loved the weird and abstract 'liminal' stuff from these older games, especially in level design
@@suedeciviii7142 My main concern is that his weapon is a stick. And not like staff or a bow, just a stick you'd find on the ground. It's not even sharp. But his outfit is pretty complex relative to the Warrior. He's got a cape and a feather and stuff, which means he spent more time on his outfit than his weapon.
You way overthought this stuff. Go outside more.
No 😎
The gunpowder icon is the firing mechanism from a flintlock musket.
🤯
I was about to say this exactly. The funniest part is the fact that I hadn't noticed until I saw it now, in the video, always thought it was some weird mutant fish.
it is missing the flint
@@suedeciviii7142 You`re American, you should know this! 😃
@@davidfarrer4332 I'm not American :p
Ceremonial burial uses the Ankh for it's symbol, which makes perfect sense, and the gunpowder icon is the Flintlock mechanism, which makes perfect sense as well.
Was about to comment the same thing
11 year old me wondering why a dead fried lizard is the icon for gunpowder smh.
My granddad and I used to play this game side by side when I was a kid and visited my grandparents on the weekend, and I still play. The man would CONSTANTLY crush the game on Sid with, get this, the Americans. He would work on the same game save for actual weeks. I still don't fully understand how, but he would just survive until the Industrial era into the modern era. Sometimes I would play his older saves, and the map would just be full of American baby blue territory, and covered in captured cities named "Austin 1 to X", he'd name captured cities after me lol. He would play past a victory condition to literally conquer the world. When you look at the current frontlines, you just see stacks over stacks of Radar Artillery, Tactical Nukes, Mech Infantry and Modern Armor.. and captured workers that he would NUKE to get rid of so he wouldn't have to manage/wait for after ending turns lmao.
Some of my favorite memories with this game. I miss that man.
Honestly this is probably gonna make me install Civ III again 😑😂
Do it! But only play spicy maps.
Alright Suede, we've waited long enough...when is the Civ III music tier list!?!?!? (good vid, btw)
Unironically a good idea.
@@suedeciviii7142 Modern ost is a banger
The thumbnail for ceremonial burial is an ankh, the symbol of (eternal) life in ancient Egypt. I suppose it's fitting then.
Weirdest thing about monotheism is how you can see the eye texture repeats on the bottom of the pyramid too!
Gunpowder is a flintlock. Its the mechanism used in many early guns
I agree that the Steel / Refining techs look way better when put together.
I absolutely love this one. As a casual player of civ3, deep-dive into civ3 mechanism is also interesting but this fun poke at aesthetics was super fun
Intermediate art that looked fine from a distance and left for the release. At that time it wasn't rare that unfinished or programmer art would end up in the game. More often than not the icon creation is disregarded and given to less skilled artists.
3:20
When I was a child I always thought that the gunpowder symbol was a metal frog.
This is a video I never knew I needed. Thanks for the in depth analysis Suede!
I love this game. The design, the gameplay... the modability (medieval and ancient era focused mods hehe)
Im sad that newer civilizations are just not as good or appealing. The nostalgia vibe probably strike and help but... idk it's something that I like so much in civ3 that I can't find in others civilization.
It's nostalgia + genuinely being an amazing game. But because the game has incredible replay value, I don't think that's bad? Like, I wish I could play Mario 64 or w/e for a decade and not get bored but sadly that's not possible.
@@suedeciviii7142 If you get into romhacks or speedrunning then you can totally play Mario 64 indefinitely and not get bored, assuming you already enjoy the features of the vanilla game. Civ (and many many other games) are like chess in that they are adversarial and thus timeless, whereas sm64 is a single-player experience so the players have to set their own goals after they "complete" the main quest
Im just in the process of making tech art for my mod, so this was entertaining to watch. Ive continued the established
abstractions and liminality style I think its a great way of representing the crucial idea behind a tech in a digestable and understandable (mostly) at a glance way, and its actually a rather fun challenge to figure out what fits.
Thanks for the video! It gavee me a few ideas already!
3:22
I think that third thing to the right if its for gunpowder is the metal bit of the firearm that contained a bit of flint that when it struck the pan would cause a spark that would light the gunpowder that then would case a reaction that would fire the bullet forward. the top bit when you fire would pivot forward (to the right here).
also I think a lot of the tech from I seen upp untill 4:02 are basic shapes made in a 3d modeler and then renderd whit no extra effect remember this is 1995 rendering just the default cubeplaced on some flat plane in blender whit two light sources pointing at it today takes about 0.005 sec would take about a hour back then if not more.
Because CIV games never relied on beautiful visuals as selling point unlike Total War games. Even today they still included the option to run CIV 6 for low end PCs.
Love your videos, my dad and my older brother love this game and have been trying to get me to play it. So I started to play about 3 months ago and was complete trash until I watched your videos, well still a novice but not has bad as I used to be.
The swordman has a giant beard
He spent a long time studying "The Sword".
Oh man I remember this thread on the server, forgot you were gonna make a video out of it.
Also who just prints "TOP SECRET" in bold army-crate lettering on a manila envelope? Unless it's a decoy, you're just begging for the melting mannequin man to come steal it.
I guess it is different in countries, but in Hungary afaik it's mandatory to mark documents as secret / top secret. It's a distinction that you should not open the folder and/or should return the document to a police department or other place.
that sounds like how secret documents are typically handled elsewhere, although it's usually marked at the top of each page and there's typically a colored border around the documents (and sometimes on the folders) here, not bold block letters that might as well say STEAL ME. I think our system is derived from the USA's, but I haven't gotten a look at any American secrets. Maybe I should check my garage and/or War Thunder's forums?
Go ahead and spread some cream cheese on this bad boy 😂😂😂😂
LMAO
The horseman icon in the horseback riding bubble looks like a bearded man with a spear in his backpack who's about to land from a hefty jump
I play conquests so I don't get to see many of these.
I'm gonna study the graphics a bit closer the next time I play.
you didnt point out the fact that the flush handle is backwards on the toilet
I for one am hyped.
Civ 3 were my first civ, when I was 11. And it is a first videogaming love. Something you just can't undone. So I always missed for art design features in later games of series. I will just left them here cause why not.
1. Leaders appearence based on era of their development. Bald Jeanne d'Arc. Damn I really remembered the image when saw V for Vendetta. And it was so engaging and funny sometimes. Evolution of engagement is riding a wrong way with the series.
2. Abandoned feature. Definetly exessive, but... The palace view. I just liked it.
3. Another abandoned one. The most tearful for fans. And mine tears are a part of the bowl. City view. It was a level of flowing artifical ingame glory that never been brought to me by any other game.
4. The weird one. I absolutly loved the way railroad grid looked like in third civ. I was obssesive with desire to cover all my territory by railroad in fifth civ. And it look horrendous.
4:49 HAHAHA I love this
3:20 I'm pretty sure the gunpowder symbol is supposed to be the firing mechanism of a musket, but it's definitely not assembled correctly.
is there any content from the development of civ 3? like beta content?
Hey Suede could you maybe make a tutorial on how to add units and buildings into Civilization 3 via the editor?
ive always found the espionage art weird/kinda creepy
The icons reallly captured my imagination as a kid
This made me laugh out loud multiple times.
Thanks hahah. It made me laugh a bunch while editing it.
Gunpowder is flint lock mechanism (i understood it the moment i have seen it)
I don't know why but you swearing really threw me off there, I just didn't expect it. Great video man, love to see you back to uploading civ 3!
I minimize it a bit, there's a lot of "hecks" in here. So it might stand out more when it happens.
Wanted to ask if you did a guide to CIv III complete, like what to build first, other than settlers and expand.
Thank you for this video, i loved this game so much! I appreciated the art work especially so this video speaks to me
Does anyone else always see the iron sprite as a crouching, armored man? I always thought it looked like the wizard's chess pawns from Harry Potter 1
Unpopular Opinion: These icons were at least my second favorite part of the game
Yo Suede - can you make another ranking video ranking the strategic resources? Can’t get enough of the content
The symbol for Ceremonial Burial is an "Ankh". It is an Egyptian symbol and since the Egyptians were big on Ceremonial Burial....
Hey was just wondering do you still do vids on civ3? If so could you do a bunch of play through vids on how to achieve each victory style with gameplay of you playing and explaining what to do for each?
Not as detailed as you'd like but this is the closest I have. ruclips.net/video/0o_sQrz-JPo/видео.html
the stoneworking one is very vaporwave
Very strong April 1st vibes, but I'm here for it
the steel beams joke looool
Hey suede, can you do an in depth analysis of naval combat, landings, establishing a foothold on another continent, and how to defend against marines and beserks. Also ranked naval units.
Naval combat in civ 3 has about the depth of a small puddle, so sadly no, it's not in the cards. AI doesn't really use marines.
@suedeciviii7142 gotcha. What about all the nuances of ranged and bombard units like archers, trebuchet and in up into artillery bombers, and the thing where if an enemy walks by a tank it will bombard for one health?
Now this, this is the content RUclips needs. 👌 No game is immune to being roasted.
Do you play this (CIV III) on a new windows operating system? I have never gotten it to work on any system prior to Vista. Any chance you could do a tutorial on how to load and operate on newer systems? thanks. I haven't played in almost 10 years now, so I get my fix watching your vids. It's the greatest game ever.
It should run fine on newer systems, the only issue is the resolution. In regards to that, I scaled down my resolution so that it wouldn't be too big.
Are you having any issues not related to resolution?
Hey Suede, I just got windows 10 and my audio glitches out when opening diplomacy. How do you fix this?
forums.civfanatics.com/threads/fix-for-no-sound-during-diplomacy-under-windows-10.623735/
@@suedeciviii7142 Worked like a charm, thanks suede
good video =)
Hey, Suede, i'm curious, what is your mod list that you use in your videos? Odd video to ask this on since there isnt much of any gameplay, but i see all the extra settler options and the game functioning in full screen, and i want to get some QOL things to improve my experience when playing this on modern devices
google popheads civ 3 for the happy face mod
And then I use the map grid for multiplayer stuff.
That's it. Extra worker options can be enabled in the settings menu
I know you don't do Civ IV stuff, but I'd love your takes on some of that game's icons, *especially* the ones for the laws
I actually had trouble finding hi res images of the civ 4 tech icons!
@@suedeciviii7142 Huh. Yeah now that you mention it, how did you find hi-res images for *3* ?
@@BasedPeter The ones on the wiki are good. The ones from the conquests scenarios aren't there, so I just checked the game files. They open fine in GIMP.
I was a kid when I played civilisation 3, when I saw these icons and images I was like soo stupid as a kid I'd be like oh if I get that big eye on the triangle thingy I'd be able to get the guy sitting down ( theology) also I thought that maybe chivalry is just Christianity cause of the cross icon. Then when I got the tech I'd be like cool now I get to build Christian knights.
I hate the art for "wealth", took me the longest time to realise it was money. Looks like a pile of gross muddy buscuits
Looking fwd to it
Eye sea awl. Bee knot a frayed!
please explain about Tropical Fruit Resource
it's a bonus res. Nothing to explain. Gives +1 food and commerce to the tile
Or wait, is the art weird?
@@suedeciviii7142 I was surprised that when the worker cleans the jungle he stays there
You have an amazing day, too :-)
i love the monotheism thing, looks like something out of those geocities sites
also, always loved the weird and abstract 'liminal' stuff from these older games, especially in level design
Day 500 of asking suede to do a Numidian mercenary catapult rush game
Are you Swedish?
Damn, Endiku Warrior (my favorite unit) in the video thumbnail and not even a damn shoutout. False advertising!
It has no face! Look at it!
@@suedeciviii7142 My main concern is that his weapon is a stick. And not like staff or a bow, just a stick you'd find on the ground. It's not even sharp. But his outfit is pretty complex relative to the Warrior. He's got a cape and a feather and stuff, which means he spent more time on his outfit than his weapon.
W vid
wtf is this video, i lost at creepy glows
he como :P
You should consider expanding to other civilization games as well to grow the channel.
Sorry but you have no idea what disturbing means lmao :D "creepy glow", what exactly was creepy about it? :D