I did more than 50,000 klms in North America in the mid 80s on my Honda XL500S. It took me from Texas to the shores of Hudson bay. The transalp is sheer luxury compared to the xl500s. Sometimes I feel all of these new bikes distract us from what it's really about. Excellent comparison. In my opinion, buy the best bike you're comfortable shelling out for. Not just what you can afford, but something that gives you no buyers remorse.
I have ridden both. If they were the same price, I would still buy the Transalp. It just suits me better for the type of riding I do and gives way more feedback from the road surface. The Tiger felt disconnected, like a magic carpet. That may suit some people, but not me. Loving the Transalp!
I feel you with regard to the Speed Twin. My Monster 1200S was suffering the same fate. After 8 years of ownership, it had less than 9000 km on it. Meanwhile, my Harley that was 2 years newer has over 80,000 km on it and my T7 has 12,000 on it after 2 seasons. I loved the visceral look of the Ducati, but it had become the last choice for actual riding.
Great video. I recently bought a ‘24 Transalp. My previous adventure bike was a 2017 BMW 1200 GS. In between I bought a Vespa GTS (great fun). The Transalp appeals to me for the Goldie Locks effect. Great all rounder and reasonable price. It does pretty much everything I need it to do.
@@teslageek9257 I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Aragón. I like the looks and handling, but it’s too tall for me (5ft 8in) - when I come to a full stop at intersections I have to look carefully at camber, surface condition to make sure I have good footing as I need to commit to a definite slide off the seat a good bit to get footing. Woe to me if I misjudge and slide off the wrong side. My newer Transalp fixes all that plus the weight feels lower. Power is enough to hustle along Appalachian mountain roads, can’t use much more. I am a little sour on Triumph because the Aragón model seems to be using the motor from 2023, before the upgrade. I thought I was buying 2024 tech. Maybe Aragón was just marketing to use up old components.
I picked up my new 24 GT PRO last week, today it already got the 1000km Service. I am absolutely in love with this bike. Looking forward to more Tiger Content of yours :D
Mate, thanks for all the content on the Transalp. I watched all your videos with utmost attention, when I picked up my '24 Transalp back in May. It is my first motorcycle and I love it. Good luck with the new ride!
I am a new Transalp owner (guilty, I know), and I really like the Triumph, however the difference in price is substantial. I’ve added the cruise control (Veridian electronic), luggage and a LOT more and I’m still under the price of a new Tiger. Luckily I can do the very easy calculation of dividing the kilometres traveled by the litres used to determine range, so I don’t need a computer to tell me me how far I can still go. You wanted the Tiger, and that is fine and good, however, if one of your biggest gripes with the Transalp is the range indication, then your problem is not with the bike, its probably something else. You are not comparing apples with apples here. You should compare the Triumph with a another bike in its price class. That being said, your initial reviews was one of the biggest reason why I considered the Transalp. I then bought it because I really liked it and enjoy riding it. I am probably more brand loyal because I do not have to make RUclips videos about new bikes, but I still value your opinion. To the new Tiger owners watching this…do not base your decisions on RUclips opinions, because they change as quickly as the next model.😉
As you also have a channel to run I get it why you keep changing bikes like you do. To keep things interesting there must from time to time be something new to show up and dissect. And we get a benefit from this. So well done. Many of us do it the other way, we own a bike sometimes for quite a long period of time and learn all what the bike has to offer. We love it to bits, and forgive it for things that break or disappoint just because we like it so much. Also propably we live where the season is short. In my now 5 decades as a motorcyclist I have never owned more than one bike at a time. I don´t have time to ride more than one, and the expense would be ridiculous compared to what I would gain. But I have to have that one bike, I have tried to quit a couple of times to instead have other hobbies but it will not work, I need a bike and I need to be able to go riding to keep me happy. Whatever floats our boat, eh?
@@RocketMan_Moto almost a little rant, propably envy to all people who live somewhere it is possible to ride almost all year. We Finns have been chosen happiest people in the world 7 years in a row, there must be something seriously wrong with that jury. Not so cheery in winter... 😁
I spent a few months in Helsinki in the summer and the winter. Beautiful place, in both seasons, but I think the short days in winter would finish me off after a couple of years😬
I question a Triumph being “premium” just because they say it is. A couple years ago I was comparing a Triumph Street Scrambler with a Suzuki 650 V-Strom. For less money, the Suzuki had tubeless spoked wheels, two front brake discs, a larger fuel tank, a full fairing and windshield, more instrumentation, and was built in Japan. (The Triumph in Thailand I think) The Suzuki also had a V-twin engine, a plus to me. I didn’t see much value in the Triumph, but I agree it was better looking. But shouldn’t premium be about more than looks, and the name on the tank?
Having owned both bikes as well, I agree with your assessment. The Tiger is noticeably more premium and comes rather well kitted out. The transalp is great value for money and exceptionally comfortable. For me, I enjoy the Transalp more largely because I enjoy working on my bikes and adding mods to them.
How does the transalp feels while driving 130 km/h? Does it has vibrations? I plan to buy a NX500 but having vibrations on 110 km/h changes my mind a bit!
@@WarzoneWonders10 at those speeds not much that I notice in the bars but they are present in the foot pegs. It’s not something that I consider bothersome though. My old Tiger 900 did the opposite and had vibes in the bars which did lead to tingly hands after a while.
Are you upgrading the suspensions on TA? I just bought a TA and don’t like the suspensions. Didn’t buy the rally pro coz I ride in hot weather conditions here in India and the radiator fans on rally pro cook my legs. TA + rally pro level of suspension comfort is the set up I need. Any thoughts?
I've never met anybody who said that they had trouble with their Honda but, I have met couple who told me about their frustration with Triumph. I see them often at nearby dealership but, they have no appeal to me. Especially at their price point. I understand it is just my personal bias. I ride cheap crappy RE and KTM along with Yam and Honda 😄
If they had that white paint scheme in Canada I would have likely gotten the Transalp, however i am ultra pleased with the 24 tiger rp. So many "options" as standard equipment sold me on it vs all their competitors.
Despite many RUclipsrs espousing the virtues of the Transalp to the hills, I found the bike totally underwhelming. Everything seemed budget on it, the suspension, the finish, the dash and controls. And another thing that annoyed me was nothing was standard. Want a bash plate, that's extra; want a quickshifter, that's extra; want wind deflectors, that's extra and so on and so on. I found the motor lively but lacking low down torque. It was comfy however, but not as comfy as some as the seat cushioning once again seemed budget. The Rally Pro is on my short-list along with the Norden 901 to replace my Tenere. The Transalp didn't even make the cut as much as I wanted it to having owned the 1st gen model and taken that halfway around the world. Oh well, it is a motorcycle built to a price.
Just by way of an update, I went back and rode the Transalp again....twice. I wanted to like it but just couldn't! It seemed so 'budget' that it was kind of anathema to the Honda doctrine. Seeing as I was eager to replace my Tenere with something a bit more touring, it came down to the Norden or the Tuareg - I wanted cruise! The twist in the tale was reading up on the KTM Camsaft forums whereby record numbers of camshafts were failing in the 790/890 so KTM and by default Husqvarna were out. Tuaregs have a waiting list, so I turned my sights to the second hand market. In the end, I picked up a 2015 Tiger 800 XCX for $8k, with a ton of extras including cruise and heated everything, which was half the price of the Transalp and had twice as many features. Plus, it had under 30k km! I just cannot see the value in the Honda, but the Tiger, wow, what a bike! You have made the right decision Rocketman!
Having this same debate with Tiger 900 and Suzuki's Vstrom 800DE. I want the features and also don't want to worry about bashing about offroad. With leftover prices, you could buy 2 vstroms for the tiger's asking price. Triumph really needs to come up with an 850 Offroad rally stripped down, but with spoked tubeless rims, cruise and a big handlebar button to turn off ABS/TIC (like on the 2017 and older tiger 1200's)
Both bikes are no "offroad" at any means. This is just marketing. They are too heavy, too big engines. You cannot compensate weight by skills, too much power is an obstacle not advantage. This mandess i evolving and evolving...
I enjoyed this summary. If I can afford it the Tiger will be my first choice. I've been eyeing it since 2020. Hopefully by the end of our winter where I live, I'll be financially able to afford one😊
I think a lot of people myself included who own several bikes or cars tend not yo use them all much. I own 4 bikes a modern retro. A naked an old 2 stroke and a sports tourer and love them all but don't get out on them very much. If only one maybe two bikes could give me what my 4 bikes do. Its not the buying but the running costs. Anyway I hope you've made the right decision as that Triumph was a beauty that i would have struggled to part with for sure.
Well presented and fair video. I know what you mean about the grip angle display on the Transalp, totally superfluous. I find the range feature isn't something I rely on as it bases its calculation on the way you've been riding over a short period so can be inaccurate. I much prefer resetting the trip display (once I have got used to the approximate range of the machine).
Suspension wise I agree that the Rally pro is better, but I opted for the GT Pro because of the seat height and on-road focus. I never go off road, but well... never say never... Excited for this seasons riding. Thanks for an interesting video!
I still don’t understand Honda’s thought process about giving North America the black transalp. If you’re into dad bikes, then you’re gonna want the Honda colors.
I have to admit it I guessed wrong and thought you were going for the 1300gs! One of the things that puts me off triumph 900's is 12k miles valve service intervals, that's a €1k bill every year or so....
An already good product too feel an improvement in general is almost never proportional to the price, the last mile to the top is exponential. I remember switching from M2 competition to a Porsche cayman gt4, 2 different work and price but m2 wasn’t 40% less fun to drive but 40% cheaper. If you can finance the more expensive it is always more rewarding in general and holding a better rest value.
Thank you Rm . At 6.40 you mentioned rubber damped bars and why all bikes don't have them. In the 70/80s the bar clamps were often mounted through the yoke enclosed in big rubber grommets, which helped isolate vibes, but wore quickly leading to the bars coming back towards you on acceleration, im sure they have improved the rubber consistency by now though. However there is concern by manufacturers that they dont rob too much feel through the bars, which any isolation may do. Personally though i prefer rubber mounts.
Don't worry about the lack of fuel range indicator. They're not that accurate and one of the trip meters does a good job of you get in the habit of zeroing it when filling up. I find fuel consumption to be pretty steady on modern bikes.
RM, to solve the reach/lower back ache with the Tiger you may wish to check out the Voigt range of bar risers. They are designed & made in Germany and the engineering is superb. I am 5’7” with a 29” leg and found the cockpit on my Tiger 850 Sport too much of a reach. Being of smaller dimensions I found the up & back risers a perfect solution to my problem and can now spend all day in the saddle without a single twinge. They do a range of different dimensions and they come in a presentation box that can be reused at Christmas for a suitable gift for Mrs RM. Hope this helps. KK
I did 200 miles through the middle of Wales yesterday (amazingly it didn't rain) "making good progress" chasing a friend on a 1200GS in perfect comfort with not an ache or a twinge today. The bar risers along with Metzeler Tourance Next 2 tyres are the best improvements to my Tiger that I have made.
Don’t forget you have a six axis IMU with cornering ABS and cornering Traction Control. Love the Tiger 900 range, great choice. You could also try some straight 20mm bar risers along with the seat in the high position for that extra leg room.
If it's any comfort, I don't regret my move one bit. Yes, the ST 1200 has a fabulous engine (and looks), but that's about it - the Tiger can do everything and it's waaaay more practical and comfortable. Hope your transition goes as well :)
Rode the Tiger 900 rally last week at a dealership and absolutely loved it. The bike is a home run, fun exhilarating with loads of tech. I personally think you made a good choice. Good luck with the bike
I had the last gen tiger 900 rally pro. Loved the looks and how smooth it was to ride. However … I had to leave it in sports mode permanently to make the vibes any where close to acceptable and the screen was so noisy it was unbearable. I tried the Givi touring screen and this didn’t help either. Ended up selling it and getting a new street triple r (based, in part, on your glowing review). Glad the new tiger seems to have fixed those issues for you. Enjoy the sunshine. It hasn’t arrived in the UK yet!
l own last years 900 tiger rally pro, and agree with your thought, if only Honda had put tubeless rims , put me off buying one straight away. if you spent 3000 euros on parts plus the price of the Honda you must have been nearly at the same price, well in the UK it would have worked out about £1000 more to buy the Triumph !!!!
Just got my 2024 Transalp, and I didn't have the fuel range indication issue, the bricks disappear as they should, after about the same distance. Maybe it was a software bug which got fixed in the meantime, or they changed the fuel level sensor for the 2024 model. And I totally agree that the grip angle indicator is useless.
I'm not a fan of bikes like this, but I don't doubt it works well. I have an old Buell XB12X Ulysses which is going back on the road when I get back next month. Torque like your old 1200. I rode down to the Algarve from London on it for a holiday back in 2008. Probably the best bike I've ever had. It doesn't even have ABS, let alone all the clutter modern bikes do. Enjoy the Triumph for a few months. Nick
Going through your playlist about Transalp so my point of view not gonna be honest about your switch but my question is: If you weren't be a British would you ever consider Triumph instead of Africa Twin which is still Honda and natural switch decision from Transalp higher...? I personally regret that you have made your swap from Honda because i liked the content of simplytsify and calm expression but it's your experience so please, if you don't mind answer my question from above. Cheers! Ride safe
I will admit that being British does have something to do with my liking for Triumph, even if most of them are actually built in Thailand ;) Six months on, I am still happy with my change; the Tiger is a nicer bike to ride in all respects than the Transalp (except maybe wind protection). Whether it is worth €6000 more is another debate... :)
There are vey good aftermarket forks and an assortment of shocks available from 1 supplier I know of in Europe. There are others also. In many decades of riding I have never wanted cruise control. Not even on 1 or 2 week long trips.
Good review 👍 I fitted bar risers , a taller smoked screen and lowered by 10mm my 2023 GT pro. A great all round bike but I hope to upgrade to the latest version later this year . All the best , stay safe 👍😊
After your review I tried the Tiger 900 Rallye for 2 hours on twisties. Agree with most, nice bike, comfortable, good handling. But a major oversight in your video (I hope I did not miss it) is the engine cooling vents that send hot air over your legs. I live in the tropics, but 30-35C temperatures are seasonal about everywhere and the really hot airstream is a total nono.
@@RocketMan_Moto thanks. I will ask the dealer. Here it is quite plausible that the last before is in the showroom. Otherwise I maybe tempted, as well as figuring out what the cost of upgrading to the same standards a Transalp is.
I do not know much about the Honda Transalp,,but I had a NC700 and found it so so boring !!!! I kindof fancy a big ish ADV bike (god forbid not a GS) and also fancy a Truimph,, the 900 never crossed my mind ,but I have to say it does now,,the way RM rationalises purchases I find really helpful in my own purchasing decisions.. I think it was a deal breaker having a servcing agreement... regards
The hardest part of owning motorcycles is living with it. If you have a tendency to upgrade before your purchase's ROI, you should just go and buy the most expensive thing you can see yourself owning. Now, this doesn't include people gaining some additional wealth. This is for people who were really too chicken to commit to something, but eventually, end up going all-in anyway. So it's a bit of a life hack to just be honest with yourself and not rely on personal experience all the time. Enough reviewers would tell you what is the best bike you'll want to own.
I’m riding a 22 900 GT Pro. It’s flawless. It’s like a Toyota Corolla, never skips a beat. Only complaint might be lack of character. I’m an old fart raised on Nortons and Ducatis. But just a joy to ride.
If I remember correctly you were concerned about engine heat on the vstrom 800DE. I live in the sub tropics and find engine heat on my 2018 tiger xrt nearly unbearable in summer. Several friends with the tiger 900 report similar engine heat. I recently took the 800DE for an extensive test ride and loved the low and mid range torque. What surprised me was the LACK of engine heat! Almost certainly my next bike and IMO so much more preferable to the Honda transalp for my off-roading. I would be interested to hear if you have noticed significant engine heat with your new wheels? 🏍️🏍️🏍️
I recently bought a ‘24 Rally Pro. The Transalp and Suzuki were 2nd and 3rd place for me. The Transalp has a lower feeling center of gravity and is more comfortable to sit on in the showroom. On the road, the Rally Pro is superior in every way. More importantly for me, the Rally Pro is farkled up with creature comforts on a par with my Indian Roadmaster. It sounds kind of silly, but the older get the more important it becomes, because I can ride longer with less fatigue. That’s kinda important to an old fart like me. I should mention that I’ve owned Hinckley Triumphs in the past, and they’ve been bulletproof in terms of reliability. It think Triumph these days is on par with the Japanese makes when it comes to reliability, and that’s important to me.
Lovely bike, for a full size adult. I'd need platforms.... Either in the garage would make me grin... But I suspect the rumoured 660 Explorer would be best. Enjoy and ride safe 👍
Sounds like you made a good choice especially if you aren't missing the Speed Twin!! So even tho you have found a few gripes with it ie the milage constantly on display + maybe you will find a way of displaying it or it may be the case of an update you never no with all this tech these days?🙄 Anyway a nice open & honest review so far RM all the best Dave...👌🏻👍🏻
Awesome video! It really is quite beautiful there. I do like the Tiger and I did consider it. The problem was that the nearest dealer was about an hour away and the BMW dealership was 15 minutes. It is a very good looking bike. Best!
Never mind you missing the Transalp 😅, I will, was looking forward to test of cruise control! 😢 now I'll have to do it myself! Great vid as always thanks
@@RocketMan_MotoDamm I never thought of that, seen a review of the cruise on Big Rock moto, looked just I was after. Needs a rethink, or keep the bike for 2 yrs😅
Yes, owners need to be very careful 'messing' with the wiring. The problem with the Veridian system is that it involves splicing into the brake control wire, and insurers don't really like that sort of thing.
A rational being would buy a 650 Versys and stop at that. However, a being filled with passion would experiment with multiple, more powerful motorcycles, and never look back. As soon as one applies the math, it sucks the soul out of the 2-wheel experience. Just keep buying, riding, and enjoying whilst you are able to do so.
I agree with the insurance angle, but given it plugs into the diagnostic port it could easily be removed before returning the bike to a dealer for servicing. Probably worth the risk if you were picking up an older second hand bike though.
I’ve always felt the current batch of Tigers are quite attractive, if slightly Darkwing Duck-looking (dating myself here). The TransAlp while no doubt a great bike just looks so…average? More related to the NC750X/CB500X than the quite stunning Africa Twin. I hope the Tiger will treat you well. As I said before I believe that fewer but better bikes will make you happier than more bikes that you end up not riding enough. And I’ll be right there to buy it pre-owned in a few years ^^
I used to never be able to stick with one bike Always thinking the newest on the market is the one to have, never satisfied etc Then I realised the only ones to win out of this were the makers and the dealers Had my 1250GS for 3 years now and no sign of wanting to change
Having enjoyed your channel over the years you certainly seem to change your bike very frequently (like me 😂), but I’ve noticed that you also have had a big journey changing from very different styles of bike. I’ve just had 3 bikes in 12 months. CBR650R - pretty good but a vibey motor and a very soft sports bike. That was changed to a GSX 8S, loved the torque but the wind blast was spoiling it. Just bought a Tuono 660 Factory without even seeing one in the flesh. I’m blown away with this faired naked bike. Components and night and day from the other bikes with the suspension. 6 axis IMU and the cruise control. Early days but I hope I finally found my unicorn shit 🤣
Interesting ive had a new 2023 sv650 and a new gsx8s in 2023/2024 and like the U2 song, I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I rode a friend's gs1250 recently and the comfort was noticeably better, streets ahead. So I know I want more comfort and have just started looking around. I want to stay under 1000cc, and I want something light. These are my 3 criteria. Comfort, weight, power.
I love the green colour and wish they had that colour on the GT. As for the odometer problem, same on the Trident. I check the mileage on the Triumph App under Garage.
I get why you consolidated but I'm fond of having 2 very different bikes (like you had) so you can flip bikes to suit the weather/mood/journey. (I've got an Africa Twin and a Speed Triple)
i miss having an sv650 for commuting and weekend twisty road fun, an africa twin for touring and a DR650 for rougher singles with offroading mates...tldr you can be fond of something, but sometimes your needs just change, and so the garage changes in kind.
Great video thanks RM, Im very close to pulling the trigger on a 24’ Tiger RP, as you mention the mods I would want to do on a Transalp to improve it would negate the price difference. I know you are still running the Tiger in, but do you find it ‘buzzy’ at motorway speeds - sitting at higher revs than the tall geared TA?
Hi Mr. RM. I'm from the Philippines and am presently visiting Portimao in the Algarve. I also own a transalp back home and was looking at the triumph as a replacement. Would be nice to meet you in person and exchange notes on these bikes.
Thank you for the offer, but I don't do meet-ups, I'm afraid. Just too many offers from viewers :) I hope you enjoy your time in Portimão, fabulous weather this week!
I am seeing and hearing some national preference!!! But if you can do an Italian accent maybe you can add a Ducati Desert X it does something a little, not that much different.. Ducati jacked the price near $19000 and has a 24 months unlimited warranty. Italian bike has similar features..In the US Italian and British bikes are still considered exotic because of very limited dealership support..I enjoy riding both but can't own one living in Baja for 8 years..in a few big Mexican cities there are Triumph and Ducati dealers ( Mexico City,& Monterrey) but few and far far between
Thanks, bud…another well delivered comparison & review…I’m with you on your decision to sell the 2-bikes for the benefit of riding one overall better bike…of course, it’s a personal decision-and yes, I do have an uncanny ability to state the obvious😏…I own a 2022 GT model…and as far as I am concerned, it’s THE Swiss Army Knife of bikes-versatility at its best…I’m 67 years old and it suits me well-performance, practically, with a-little pizazz…and, as are your reviews🤠👍
Thanks for your kind words, Ben. Yes, I loved my Speed Twin… as a ‘work of art’. Problem was that I never used it. The Tiger is objectively superior in every way😊
I certainly can relate, I also own a semi-modified Speedmaster of my creation that I could sit and gaze at longer than a coastal sunset, but are at a point where I will be parting with it…reluctantly 😔
There was one question I hoped would be answered, but alas. Knee angle. I bought the NX500 as a starter bike, but I'm already thinking ahead to next year. I have bad knees, so the knee angle on the NX500 is less than comfortable. I'm 1m86cm. The transalps pegs are more forward, allowing for a more comfortable knee angle, and I was considering that bike to be next. But the tiger 900 has caught my eye. I am in the luxurious position that prices are of no concern to me, I just need something more comfortable for my knees, back and backside 😅. Sitting straight up is a must for me. You are about my height, so, in comparison to the transalp, how is the knee angle on the tiger in either seat height?
I must disagree.😅 The pegs on the Tiger (that I test rode today) are considerably more backwards (compared to the Transalp’s). For me the Transalp is more comfy on my knees (have the same problems there).
Great comparison, thanks...love Triumph's, if only their Dealer network were a bit more estabilshed. Had an Algarve question, do you have a recommendation on a location to rent motorcycles. We will be visiting from Canada and staying in Lagos, there is one located in the downtown, but wanted to know if a local would have a recommendation.
I think for most of the time & use: o n e bike is enough & will be driven at least in a proper way. When I had two, there was always one standing around in the garage. Ok, if money isn’t the point, you can even have 3 or 4 then. For me it’s generally difficult to spend so much money in one bike. Well, under 20 k € it’s still ok, but already a lot of money (I could put in bicycle or travelling). My VW Passat 1.4 TSI Comfort line (one year old, 25 k km) cost 20 k € - so it’s a c a r 😅😅😅 But to be honest: I’m in love with the SpeedTwin, that’s why I’ll keep my 1200 GS (2012, 7.6 k €) & try to get a cheap & wonderful SpeedTwin (& there we are 🙄🤷🏻♂️) Fazit: I guess every time & moment in life there will be reasons for one or rather more bikes - in your situation it’s time for sth. new & well performing: this wonderful o n e Tiger Rally Pro 2024 ❤
I recall that the previous Tiger model you had tested (back in 2021 ?) didn't suit you for a list of reasons, one of them was the lack of power. Is the 2024 one really that different and improved?
RM: “I don’t think anyone will claim Adventure bikes are the best-looking bikes…” Me: Looks in garage at my new ‘23 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC. Smiles with a hint of smugness.
@@RocketMan_Moto They moved the catalytic converter away from the rider and to the rear of the pipe in ‘21, but, yeah, wind resistance is minimal at best. I have a small flyscreen on mine, but it’s honestly more decorative than functional.
In Japan I'll go for the transalp, make it tubeless and add cruise. If I moved back to the usa with the bigger faster roads.... as much as I love the africatwin, I think the tiger pro is a no trainer with the biggest faster roads the usa has
What gps/phone mount bracket do you have on your Tiger? I have the quad lock pro mount as you do, but on the bar. With a tank bag it's not ideal. It looks like the bracket mounted off the windscreen is a good solution. Agreed on all points in the video as well. I love my 2024 rally pro!
On our tour of the triumph factory we were there is absolutely no need to run in a triumph engine. We were all a little disbelieving but were told this is absolutely correct....... BUT you must run in brakes,tyres and suspension which if you think about is true everytime you have tyres or brakes you are warned to go steady for a few hundred miles.
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It's just a journey...no right or wrong path. You seem to be having fun, so I say you made the right decision for you. Congrats and enjoy.
Thank you :)
I did more than 50,000 klms in North America in the mid 80s on my Honda XL500S. It took me from Texas to the shores of Hudson bay. The transalp is sheer luxury compared to the xl500s. Sometimes I feel all of these new bikes distract us from what it's really about. Excellent comparison. In my opinion, buy the best bike you're comfortable shelling out for. Not just what you can afford, but something that gives you no buyers remorse.
Sage advice
I have ridden both. If they were the same price, I would still buy the Transalp. It just suits me better for the type of riding I do and gives way more feedback from the road surface. The Tiger felt disconnected, like a magic carpet. That may suit some people, but not me. Loving the Transalp!
Glad you got the right bike for you😊👍
What I love about this video is how the traffic allows you past safety. I’ve ridden a lot in Europe and it’s really refreshing coming from the UK.
Yes, Portuguese drivers are very good for that. Motorbikes are given a lot of consideration👍😊
You can always rely on well-rounded and objective review from RM. Well done.
Thank you😊
I feel you with regard to the Speed Twin. My Monster 1200S was suffering the same fate. After 8 years of ownership, it had less than 9000 km on it. Meanwhile, my Harley that was 2 years newer has over 80,000 km on it and my T7 has 12,000 on it after 2 seasons. I loved the visceral look of the Ducati, but it had become the last choice for actual riding.
Exactly😟
Great video. I recently bought a ‘24 Transalp. My previous adventure bike was a 2017 BMW 1200 GS. In between I bought a Vespa GTS (great fun). The Transalp appeals to me for the Goldie Locks effect. Great all rounder and reasonable price. It does pretty much everything I need it to do.
I really enjoyed my year with the Transalp👍😊
@@teslageek9257 I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Aragón. I like the looks and handling, but it’s too tall for me (5ft 8in) - when I come to a full stop at intersections I have to look carefully at camber, surface condition to make sure I have good footing as I need to commit to a definite slide off the seat a good bit to get footing. Woe to me if I misjudge and slide off the wrong side. My newer Transalp fixes all that plus the weight feels lower. Power is enough to hustle along Appalachian mountain roads, can’t use much more. I am a little sour on Triumph because the Aragón model seems to be using the motor from 2023, before the upgrade. I thought I was buying 2024 tech. Maybe Aragón was just marketing to use up old components.
I picked up my new 24 GT PRO last week, today it already got the 1000km Service. I am absolutely in love with this bike. Looking forward to more Tiger Content of yours :D
Yes, a great bike. I'll be putting a few km on the bike over the next couple of weeks now that the weather has improved
I've got the 2023 GT pro. Yes it's a great bike ,10,000 km, and no thoughts of parting with it
Mate, thanks for all the content on the Transalp. I watched all your videos with utmost attention, when I picked up my '24 Transalp back in May. It is my first motorcycle and I love it. Good luck with the new ride!
The Transalp is a great bike. Enjoy, especially the grip angle😉
2 weeks into ownership, another couple weeks left and you will be on to the next bike!
Lol. Not this time... Give me until Christmas ;)
Lol...Yes!
I am a new Transalp owner (guilty, I know), and I really like the Triumph, however the difference in price is substantial. I’ve added the cruise control (Veridian electronic), luggage and a LOT more and I’m still under the price of a new Tiger. Luckily I can do the very easy calculation of dividing the kilometres traveled by the litres used to determine range, so I don’t need a computer to tell me me how far I can still go. You wanted the Tiger, and that is fine and good, however, if one of your biggest gripes with the Transalp is the range indication, then your problem is not with the bike, its probably something else. You are not comparing apples with apples here. You should compare the Triumph with a another bike in its price class. That being said, your initial reviews was one of the biggest reason why I considered the Transalp. I then bought it because I really liked it and enjoy riding it. I am probably more brand loyal because I do not have to make RUclips videos about new bikes, but I still value your opinion. To the new Tiger owners watching this…do not base your decisions on RUclips opinions, because they change as quickly as the next model.😉
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
As you also have a channel to run I get it why you keep changing bikes like you do. To keep things interesting there must from time to time be something new to show up and dissect. And we get a benefit from this. So well done. Many of us do it the other way, we own a bike sometimes for quite a long period of time and learn all what the bike has to offer. We love it to bits, and forgive it for things that break or disappoint just because we like it so much. Also propably we live where the season is short. In my now 5 decades as a motorcyclist I have never owned more than one bike at a time. I don´t have time to ride more than one, and the expense would be ridiculous compared to what I would gain. But I have to have that one bike, I have tried to quit a couple of times to instead have other hobbies but it will not work, I need a bike and I need to be able to go riding to keep me happy. Whatever floats our boat, eh?
Thanks for your input 😊👍
@@RocketMan_Moto almost a little rant, propably envy to all people who live somewhere it is possible to ride almost all year. We Finns have been chosen happiest people in the world 7 years in a row, there must be something seriously wrong with that jury. Not so cheery in winter... 😁
I spent a few months in Helsinki in the summer and the winter. Beautiful place, in both seasons, but I think the short days in winter would finish me off after a couple of years😬
I question a Triumph being “premium” just because they say it is. A couple years ago I was comparing a Triumph Street Scrambler with a Suzuki 650 V-Strom. For less money, the Suzuki had tubeless spoked wheels, two front brake discs, a larger fuel tank, a full fairing and windshield, more instrumentation, and was built in Japan. (The Triumph in Thailand I think) The Suzuki also had a V-twin engine, a plus to me. I didn’t see much value in the Triumph, but I agree it was better looking. But shouldn’t premium be about more than looks, and the name on the tank?
Fair enough👍
Well done, great move,logical advantages everywhere. Plus the rally pro is just one of the best 👍
Thanks👍😊
Having owned both bikes as well, I agree with your assessment. The Tiger is noticeably more premium and comes rather well kitted out. The transalp is great value for money and exceptionally comfortable. For me, I enjoy the Transalp more largely because I enjoy working on my bikes and adding mods to them.
I get that. There's not much left for me to do on the Tiger, it's got everything
How does the transalp feels while driving 130 km/h? Does it has vibrations?
I plan to buy a NX500 but having vibrations on 110 km/h changes my mind a bit!
@@WarzoneWonders10 at those speeds not much that I notice in the bars but they are present in the foot pegs. It’s not something that I consider bothersome though. My old Tiger 900 did the opposite and had vibes in the bars which did lead to tingly hands after a while.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but yes, the Transalp is buzzy at high speed and... the NX500 is even worse :(
Are you upgrading the suspensions on TA? I just bought a TA and don’t like the suspensions. Didn’t buy the rally pro coz I ride in hot weather conditions here in India and the radiator fans on rally pro cook my legs. TA + rally pro level of suspension comfort is the set up I need. Any thoughts?
I've never met anybody who said that they had trouble with their Honda but, I have met couple who told me about their frustration with Triumph. I see them often at nearby dealership but, they have no appeal to me. Especially at their price point. I understand it is just my personal bias. I ride cheap crappy RE and KTM along with Yam and Honda 😄
I've owned 5 Triumphs, never had any issues
Good review and update. Thank you. I had that exact same Tiger and loved it. I thought it was very nearly perfect.
What did you replace it with?
It is difficult to fault👍
I don’t want to know😂
I lost my mind and thought I needed the 1200 Exp. I didn’t, to be clear, but thought I did. I love the 1200 but should have stuck with the 900.
Haha, the 1200 is addictive :)
That voice. The barry white of motorcyle channels.
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Tubed tires tarnished the allure of the TA. Distance to empty on the display over grip angle for moi aussi😂 Fine videos good sir! 👍
Thanks 👍
I think it's hard to beat Honda at price to performance ratio.
I agree
you get what you pay for
If they had that white paint scheme in Canada I would have likely gotten the Transalp, however i am ultra pleased with the 24 tiger rp. So many "options" as standard equipment sold me on it vs all their competitors.
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Despite many RUclipsrs espousing the virtues of the Transalp to the hills, I found the bike totally underwhelming. Everything seemed budget on it, the suspension, the finish, the dash and controls. And another thing that annoyed me was nothing was standard. Want a bash plate, that's extra; want a quickshifter, that's extra; want wind deflectors, that's extra and so on and so on. I found the motor lively but lacking low down torque. It was comfy however, but not as comfy as some as the seat cushioning once again seemed budget. The Rally Pro is on my short-list along with the Norden 901 to replace my Tenere. The Transalp didn't even make the cut as much as I wanted it to having owned the 1st gen model and taken that halfway around the world. Oh well, it is a motorcycle built to a price.
It is built to a price and is missing some niceties, but I had a lot of fun on it in the year I owned it, and that’s priceless😊👍
Interesting. No Husqvarna dealers here in the Algarve unfortunately
Just by way of an update, I went back and rode the Transalp again....twice. I wanted to like it but just couldn't! It seemed so 'budget' that it was kind of anathema to the Honda doctrine. Seeing as I was eager to replace my Tenere with something a bit more touring, it came down to the Norden or the Tuareg - I wanted cruise! The twist in the tale was reading up on the KTM Camsaft forums whereby record numbers of camshafts were failing in the 790/890 so KTM and by default Husqvarna were out. Tuaregs have a waiting list, so I turned my sights to the second hand market. In the end, I picked up a 2015 Tiger 800 XCX for $8k, with a ton of extras including cruise and heated everything, which was half the price of the Transalp and had twice as many features. Plus, it had under 30k km! I just cannot see the value in the Honda, but the Tiger, wow, what a bike! You have made the right decision Rocketman!
Having this same debate with Tiger 900 and Suzuki's Vstrom 800DE. I want the features and also don't want to worry about bashing about offroad. With leftover prices, you could buy 2 vstroms for the tiger's asking price. Triumph really needs to come up with an 850 Offroad rally stripped down, but with spoked tubeless rims, cruise and a big handlebar button to turn off ABS/TIC (like on the 2017 and older tiger 1200's)
Both bikes are no "offroad" at any means. This is just marketing. They are too heavy, too big engines. You cannot compensate weight by skills, too much power is an obstacle not advantage.
This mandess i evolving and evolving...
Thanks for your input 👍😊
I enjoyed this summary. If I can afford it the Tiger will be my first choice. I've been eyeing it since 2020. Hopefully by the end of our winter where I live, I'll be financially able to afford one😊
Me too, but the 2024 version was worth waiting for
I think a lot of people myself included who own several bikes or cars tend not yo use them all much. I own 4 bikes a modern retro. A naked an old 2 stroke and a sports tourer and love them all but don't get out on them very much. If only one maybe two bikes could give me what my 4 bikes do. Its not the buying but the running costs. Anyway I hope you've made the right decision as that Triumph was a beauty that i would have struggled to part with for sure.
You’re right, not an easy decision but I think (hope🙏) it was the right one👍😊
Well presented and fair video. I know what you mean about the grip angle display on the Transalp, totally superfluous. I find the range feature isn't something I rely on as it bases its calculation on the way you've been riding over a short period so can be inaccurate. I much prefer resetting the trip display (once I have got used to the approximate range of the machine).
There are ways around the range thing, but its absence annoyed me
Smart bike, and sound reasoning for the purchase - well done sir.
Thanks, Steve😊👍
Suspension wise I agree that the Rally pro is better, but I opted for the GT Pro because of the seat height and on-road focus. I never go off road, but well... never say never...
Excited for this seasons riding. Thanks for an interesting video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, the Rally is a big bike.
I still don’t understand Honda’s thought process about giving North America the black transalp. If you’re into dad bikes, then you’re gonna want the Honda colors.
Yes. Surely there must be enough white ones around now to launch the colour in North America🤷♂️
I have to admit it I guessed wrong and thought you were going for the 1300gs! One of the things that puts me off triumph 900's is 12k miles valve service intervals, that's a €1k bill every year or so....
True. Only about €300 here in Portugal, though
Service interval was changed to 18k for new engine
@@Mosmos993 ah? Thanks
An already good product too feel an improvement in general is almost never proportional to the price, the last mile to the top is exponential. I remember switching from M2 competition to a Porsche cayman gt4, 2 different work and price but m2 wasn’t 40% less fun to drive but 40% cheaper. If you can finance the more expensive it is always more rewarding in general and holding a better rest value.
Agreed
The comparison of Tiger 900 with Africa Twin seems more appropriate, closer price points
I have never owned an Africa Twin
For the odometer part, you can set the shift indicator to “running in” mode so that it flashes according to your mileage.
Yes thanks, I’ve done that, but I’d still like to see where I am in the running-in process
Thank you Rm . At 6.40 you mentioned rubber damped bars and why all bikes don't have them. In the 70/80s the bar clamps were often mounted through the yoke enclosed in big rubber grommets, which helped isolate vibes, but wore quickly leading to the bars coming back towards you on acceleration, im sure they have improved the rubber consistency by now though. However there is concern by manufacturers that they dont rob too much feel through the bars, which any isolation may do. Personally though i prefer rubber mounts.
Thanks for your input👍😊
Don't worry about the lack of fuel range indicator. They're not that accurate and one of the trip meters does a good job of you get in the habit of zeroing it when filling up. I find fuel consumption to be pretty steady on modern bikes.
I do enjoy having it on the Tiger, though😊
RM, to solve the reach/lower back ache with the Tiger you may wish to check out the Voigt range of bar risers. They are designed & made in Germany and the engineering is superb. I am 5’7” with a 29” leg and found the cockpit on my Tiger 850 Sport too much of a reach. Being of smaller dimensions I found the up & back risers a perfect solution to my problem and can now spend all day in the saddle without a single twinge. They do a range of different dimensions and they come in a presentation box that can be reused at Christmas for a suitable gift for Mrs RM. Hope this helps. KK
Great, thanks for the tip. I will have a look at their website now👍😊
I did 200 miles through the middle of Wales yesterday (amazingly it didn't rain) "making good progress" chasing a friend on a 1200GS in perfect comfort with not an ache or a twinge today. The bar risers along with Metzeler Tourance Next 2 tyres are the best improvements to my Tiger that I have made.
Don’t forget you have a six axis IMU with cornering ABS and cornering Traction Control. Love the Tiger 900 range, great choice. You could also try some straight 20mm bar risers along with the seat in the high position for that extra leg room.
Yes, I’m looking into risers
I'm walking your path Sir.. trying to sell my speed twin 1200 due to the exact same reasons n get a Tiger 900 GT
If it's any comfort, I don't regret my move one bit. Yes, the ST 1200 has a fabulous engine (and looks), but that's about it - the Tiger can do everything and it's waaaay more practical and comfortable. Hope your transition goes as well :)
@RocketMan_Moto will keep you updated.. thankyou for the video ❤️
Rode the Tiger 900 rally last week at a dealership and absolutely loved it. The bike is a home run, fun exhilarating with loads of tech. I personally think you made a good choice. Good luck with the bike
Thank you. Yes, happy so far😊
I had the last gen tiger 900 rally pro. Loved the looks and how smooth it was to ride. However … I had to leave it in sports mode permanently to make the vibes any where close to acceptable and the screen was so noisy it was unbearable. I tried the Givi touring screen and this didn’t help either. Ended up selling it and getting a new street triple r (based, in part, on your glowing review). Glad the new tiger seems to have fixed those issues for you. Enjoy the sunshine. It hasn’t arrived in the UK yet!
The vibes are still there, but less so than on the previous generation😊
l own last years 900 tiger rally pro, and agree with your thought, if only Honda had put tubeless rims , put me off buying one straight away. if you spent 3000 euros on parts plus the price of the Honda you must have been nearly at the same price, well in the UK it would have worked out about £1000 more to buy the Triumph !!!!
I had €3000 of equipment on the Transalp at the end, but most of it was sent to me FOC by the manufacturers😊
I wish you tons of fun during your time with the Tiger. And I am curious which bike will be your next one.
Thank you :)
Thoroughly enjoyed your review. I agree with you on the "lack" of Odo, and would have liked to see the keyless as an option.
Thanks. Yes, keyless would solve a few problems
Enjoyed this and your test ride, I'm picking my tiger rally pro up tomorrow.
Great bike. Enjoy👍😊
I goy to try a 2023 Tiger Rallye Pro superb all round Motorcycle
Definitely on my list.
Yes, I’m very satisfied
Just got my 2024 Transalp, and I didn't have the fuel range indication issue, the bricks disappear as they should, after about the same distance. Maybe it was a software bug which got fixed in the meantime, or they changed the fuel level sensor for the 2024 model. And I totally agree that the grip angle indicator is useless.
I miss grip angle. Not😂
I'm not a fan of bikes like this, but I don't doubt it works well. I have an old Buell XB12X Ulysses which is going back on the road when I get back next month. Torque like your old 1200. I rode down to the Algarve from London on it for a holiday back in 2008. Probably the best bike I've ever had. It doesn't even have ABS, let alone all the clutter modern bikes do.
Enjoy the Triumph for a few months. Nick
Thanks, Nick😊👍
Going through your playlist about Transalp so my point of view not gonna be honest about your switch but my question is: If you weren't be a British would you ever consider Triumph instead of Africa Twin which is still Honda and natural switch decision from Transalp higher...?
I personally regret that you have made your swap from Honda because i liked the content of simplytsify and calm expression but it's your experience so please, if you don't mind answer my question from above. Cheers! Ride safe
I will admit that being British does have something to do with my liking for Triumph, even if most of them are actually built in Thailand ;) Six months on, I am still happy with my change; the Tiger is a nicer bike to ride in all respects than the Transalp (except maybe wind protection). Whether it is worth €6000 more is another debate... :)
There are vey good aftermarket forks and an assortment of shocks available from 1 supplier I know of in Europe.
There are others also.
In many decades of riding I have never wanted cruise control. Not even on 1 or 2 week long trips.
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Good review 👍
I fitted bar risers , a taller smoked screen and lowered by 10mm my 2023 GT pro. A great all round bike but I hope to upgrade to the latest version later this year . All the best , stay safe 👍😊
I’m looking into bar risers. Never needed them before, but I think they could help on the Tiger. The 2024 model does have a bunch of improvements 👍😊
After your review I tried the Tiger 900 Rallye for 2 hours on twisties. Agree with most, nice bike, comfortable, good handling. But a major oversight in your video (I hope I did not miss it) is the engine cooling vents that send hot air over your legs. I live in the tropics, but 30-35C temperatures are seasonal about everywhere and the really hot airstream is a total nono.
This was a big issue with the 20-23 Tiger 900s, but they have largely fixed it with the 2024
@@RocketMan_Moto thanks. I will ask the dealer. Here it is quite plausible that the last before is in the showroom. Otherwise I maybe tempted, as well as figuring out what the cost of upgrading to the same standards a Transalp is.
Love your channel and the narration. I'm chopping my Vstrom 650 in and willing to take the £1500 hit :(
Ouch
I do not know much about the Honda Transalp,,but I had a NC700 and found it so so boring !!!! I kindof fancy a big ish ADV bike (god forbid not a GS) and also fancy a Truimph,, the 900 never crossed my mind ,but I have to say it does now,,the way RM rationalises purchases I find really helpful in my own purchasing decisions.. I think it was a deal breaker having a servcing agreement... regards
The Transalp has a completely different engine to the NC700/750. Much more exciting.
The tiger seems like a really nice bike odometer thing is pretty weird. Bet Mrs RM would take that Jag over any of yr bikes😊
Oh yes😎
The hardest part of owning motorcycles is living with it.
If you have a tendency to upgrade before your purchase's ROI, you should just go and buy the most expensive thing you can see yourself owning.
Now, this doesn't include people gaining some additional wealth. This is for people who were really too chicken to commit to something, but eventually, end up going all-in anyway.
So it's a bit of a life hack to just be honest with yourself and not rely on personal experience all the time. Enough reviewers would tell you what is the best bike you'll want to own.
Thanks for your input 👍😊
A Brilliantly fair review of both bikes and an enjoyable video from start to finish. Many thanks Rocket Man. Best wishes from sunny Ireland 🍻🤪
Thank you. Sun? In Ireland?!
@@RocketMan_MotoHe's joking.... or psychotic.
The price is not important it's the bike that puts a smile on your face.
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I’m riding a 22 900 GT Pro. It’s flawless. It’s like a Toyota Corolla, never skips a beat. Only complaint might be lack of character. I’m an old fart raised on Nortons and Ducatis. But just a joy to ride.
Agreed. The extra power for 2024 gives it a bit more character😊
Try risers for the handlebar, could solve your seat hight issue...
Looking into them👍😊
I'd rather have the Speed Twin and the Transalp.
Not me :)
Me too for both bikes! It's great that we all like different things and have such variety to choose from.
It’s nice to have one bike instead of two
I have Kawasaki z900rs and a Honda translap and I like how the tiger 900 is right between on the road and I will do better off road on the 900
If I remember correctly you were concerned about engine heat on the vstrom 800DE. I live in the sub tropics and find engine heat on my 2018 tiger xrt nearly unbearable in summer. Several friends with the tiger 900 report similar engine heat. I recently took the 800DE for an extensive test ride and loved the low and mid range torque. What surprised me was the LACK of engine heat! Almost certainly my next bike and IMO so much more preferable to the Honda transalp for my off-roading. I would be interested to hear if you have noticed significant engine heat with your new wheels? 🏍️🏍️🏍️
I haven't yet (the 2024 model has had tweaks to the air ducts), but of course we haven't had any serious heat here so far
I recently bought a ‘24 Rally Pro. The Transalp and Suzuki were 2nd and 3rd place for me. The Transalp has a lower feeling center of gravity and is more comfortable to sit on in the showroom. On the road, the Rally Pro is superior in every way. More importantly for me, the Rally Pro is farkled up with creature comforts on a par with my Indian Roadmaster. It sounds kind of silly, but the older get the more important it becomes, because I can ride longer with less fatigue. That’s kinda important to an old fart like me. I should mention that I’ve owned Hinckley Triumphs in the past, and they’ve been bulletproof in terms of reliability. It think Triumph these days is on par with the Japanese makes when it comes to reliability, and that’s important to me.
I completely agree. If you have the funds, then absolutely go for the Tiger😊👍
Great scenery as always, and I appreciate your insights.
Thanks for watching!😊
Lovely bike, for a full size adult. I'd need platforms....
Either in the garage would make me grin...
But I suspect the rumoured 660 Explorer would be best.
Enjoy and ride safe 👍
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Sounds like you made a good choice especially if you aren't missing the Speed Twin!! So even tho you have found a few gripes with it ie the milage constantly on display + maybe you will find a way of displaying it or it may be the case of an update you never no with all this tech these days?🙄 Anyway a nice open & honest review so far RM all the best Dave...👌🏻👍🏻
Thanks, Dave😊
Awesome video! It really is quite beautiful there. I do like the Tiger and I did consider it. The problem was that the nearest dealer was about an hour away and the BMW dealership was 15 minutes. It is a very good looking bike. Best!
which bmw did you buy
Thanks. I totally understand the dealer distance thing
Why do I get the feeling, a certain 400 will arrive soon. 😉
Why does nobody trust me?😩
Never mind you missing the Transalp 😅, I will, was looking forward to test of cruise control! 😢 now I'll have to do it myself!
Great vid as always thanks
I sent the CC back because Honda advised me it would void my warranty and possibly my insurance too😬
@@RocketMan_MotoDamm I never thought of that, seen a review of the cruise on Big Rock moto, looked just I was after. Needs a rethink, or keep the bike for 2 yrs😅
Yes, owners need to be very careful 'messing' with the wiring. The problem with the Veridian system is that it involves splicing into the brake control wire, and insurers don't really like that sort of thing.
A rational being would buy a 650 Versys and stop at that. However, a being filled with passion would experiment with multiple, more powerful motorcycles, and never look back. As soon as one applies the math, it sucks the soul out of the 2-wheel experience. Just keep buying, riding, and enjoying whilst you are able to do so.
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Sounds like the comparison should be between African twin and tiger
I never owned the Africa Twin
Have you ridden Tuareg 660? Can't find bad word about it. I'm getting too many punctures on my Honda, tubeless seem a better option
A bit too off-road focused for my needs
There are now a few plug n play aftermarket cruise control options for the Transalp from as little as £250.
I was sent one but didn’t install it. I was advised by Honda that it would void my warranty and possibly my insurance too🤔
I agree with the insurance angle, but given it plugs into the diagnostic port it could easily be removed before returning the bike to a dealer for servicing. Probably worth the risk if you were picking up an older second hand bike though.
Yes, once out of warranty
I’ve always felt the current batch of Tigers are quite attractive, if slightly Darkwing Duck-looking (dating myself here). The TransAlp while no doubt a great bike just looks so…average? More related to the NC750X/CB500X than the quite stunning Africa Twin.
I hope the Tiger will treat you well. As I said before I believe that fewer but better bikes will make you happier than more bikes that you end up not riding enough. And I’ll be right there to buy it pre-owned in a few years ^^
Thanks👍😊
Always nice to know that women know there knobbly……….tyres 😳😄👍🏻
Haha :)
I used to never be able to stick with one bike
Always thinking the newest on the market is the one to have, never satisfied etc
Then I realised the only ones to win out of this were the makers and the dealers
Had my 1250GS for 3 years now and no sign of wanting to change
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Having enjoyed your channel over the years you certainly seem to change your bike very frequently (like me 😂), but I’ve noticed that you also have had a big journey changing from very different styles of bike. I’ve just had 3 bikes in 12 months. CBR650R - pretty good but a vibey motor and a very soft sports bike. That was changed to a GSX 8S, loved the torque but the wind blast was spoiling it. Just bought a Tuono 660 Factory without even seeing one in the flesh. I’m blown away with this faired naked bike. Components and night and day from the other bikes with the suspension. 6 axis IMU and the cruise control. Early days but I hope I finally found my unicorn shit 🤣
Heard lots of good things about the Tuono, but the dealer here is hopeless and never has any demo bikes :( Enjoy yours!
Interesting ive had a new 2023 sv650 and a new gsx8s in 2023/2024 and like the U2 song, I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I rode a friend's gs1250 recently and the comfort was noticeably better, streets ahead. So I know I want more comfort and have just started looking around. I want to stay under 1000cc, and I want something light. These are my 3 criteria. Comfort, weight, power.
That’s the thing once you’ve tried an adventure bike: all other types suddenly seem far too uncomfortable
I love the green colour and wish they had that colour on the GT. As for the odometer problem, same on the Trident. I check the mileage on the Triumph App under Garage.
Haven’t been able to connect yet🤦♂️
@RocketMan_Moto I can't help you with that. My Samsung S9 connected the first time, and my new S23 also had no problems.
I have an iPhone :(
I get why you consolidated but I'm fond of having 2 very different bikes (like you had) so you can flip bikes to suit the weather/mood/journey. (I've got an Africa Twin and a Speed Triple)
i miss having an sv650 for commuting and weekend twisty road fun, an africa twin for touring and a DR650 for rougher singles with offroading mates...tldr you can be fond of something, but sometimes your needs just change, and so the garage changes in kind.
Perfect combination😊👍
Do you even consider Africa twin base model ,, by the way your explanations are very good, very useful.. thank's!
Thank you. I'm not a fan of the Africa Twin :)
Great video thanks RM, Im very close to pulling the trigger on a 24’ Tiger RP, as you mention the mods I would want to do on a Transalp to improve it would negate the price difference.
I know you are still running the Tiger in, but do you find it ‘buzzy’ at motorway speeds - sitting at higher revs than the tall geared TA?
There are vibrations, but less than on my Transalp. And cruise control means I can rest my right hand👍😊
Great video as always, still waiting for the Stelvio video.
Not sure what i´ll do next, since i am considering selling my KTM1290 SAS.
Ty RM
Still waiting for my MG dealer to get a demonstrator
@@RocketMan_Moto , you got me with that sexy voice, and clear, free bs, telling. ....i want Stelvio...please...hehe
Sure is a great looking bike. Expensive, though, for what it offers.
Hi Mr. RM. I'm from the Philippines and am presently visiting Portimao in the Algarve. I also own a transalp back home and was looking at the triumph as a replacement.
Would be nice to meet you in person and exchange notes on these bikes.
Thank you for the offer, but I don't do meet-ups, I'm afraid. Just too many offers from viewers :) I hope you enjoy your time in Portimão, fabulous weather this week!
Yes the weather is perfect today!
I am seeing and hearing some national preference!!! But if you can do an Italian accent maybe you can add a Ducati Desert X it does something a little, not that much different.. Ducati jacked the price near $19000 and has a 24 months unlimited warranty. Italian bike has similar features..In the US Italian and British bikes are still considered exotic because of very limited dealership support..I enjoy riding both but can't own one living in Baja for 8 years..in a few big Mexican cities there are Triumph and Ducati dealers ( Mexico City,& Monterrey) but few and far far between
Thanks for your input. No Ducati dealers in the Algarve, unfortunately😟
Thanks, bud…another well delivered comparison & review…I’m with you on your decision to sell the 2-bikes for the benefit of riding one overall better bike…of course, it’s a personal decision-and yes, I do have an uncanny ability to state the obvious😏…I own a 2022 GT model…and as far as I am concerned, it’s THE Swiss Army Knife of bikes-versatility at its best…I’m 67 years old and it suits me well-performance, practically, with a-little pizazz…and, as are your reviews🤠👍
Thanks for your kind words, Ben. Yes, I loved my Speed Twin… as a ‘work of art’. Problem was that I never used it. The Tiger is objectively superior in every way😊
I certainly can relate, I also own a semi-modified Speedmaster of my creation that I could sit and gaze at longer than a coastal sunset, but are at a point where I will be parting with it…reluctantly 😔
Totally understand that. Tbh, I haven’t missed my Speed Twin at all. I thought I would, at least a bit, but 2 months on still nothing😑
That Tiger 900 has the ability to make almost anything nothing more than a distant memory…mile after mile😊👍
Agreed. A really good bike. Undoubtedly the best I’ve owned so far👍
There was one question I hoped would be answered, but alas. Knee angle. I bought the NX500 as a starter bike, but I'm already thinking ahead to next year. I have bad knees, so the knee angle on the NX500 is less than comfortable. I'm 1m86cm. The transalps pegs are more forward, allowing for a more comfortable knee angle, and I was considering that bike to be next. But the tiger 900 has caught my eye. I am in the luxurious position that prices are of no concern to me, I just need something more comfortable for my knees, back and backside 😅. Sitting straight up is a must for me. You are about my height, so, in comparison to the transalp, how is the knee angle on the tiger in either seat height?
Knee angle is slightly better on the Tiger, but only with the seat in the high position.
I must disagree.😅 The pegs on the Tiger (that I test rode today) are considerably more backwards (compared to the Transalp’s). For me the Transalp is more comfy on my knees (have the same problems there).
Joachim, did you ride the gt pro or the rally pro?
I too traded my speedtwin for a Tiger. Much roomier and one of the better looking adv bikes 🍻
Oh yes👍😊
I think the Triumph Tiger is a good choice . And I’d have a Tenere if I was aiming at a bare bones adv bike ..
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Great comparison, thanks...love Triumph's, if only their Dealer network were a bit more estabilshed. Had an Algarve question, do you have a recommendation on a location to rent motorcycles. We will be visiting from Canada and staying in Lagos, there is one located in the downtown, but wanted to know if a local would have a recommendation.
I have worked with soulfulbikes.com in Faro in the past. They’re very professional and have a good choice of bikes. Tell them I sent you👍😊
Wait, are you keeping the Tiger til the tires wear out?! 😆🤣😂
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You're always gonna miss a bike you owned and enjoyed. But that doesn't mean that well thought out switching is a bad decision.
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I think for most of the time & use: o n e bike is enough & will be driven at least in a proper way. When I had two, there was always one standing around in the garage.
Ok, if money isn’t the point, you can even have 3 or 4 then.
For me it’s generally difficult to spend so much money in one bike. Well, under 20 k € it’s still ok, but already a lot of money (I could put in bicycle or travelling). My VW Passat 1.4 TSI Comfort line (one year old, 25 k km) cost 20 k € - so it’s a c a r 😅😅😅
But to be honest: I’m in love with the SpeedTwin, that’s why I’ll keep my 1200 GS (2012, 7.6 k €) & try to get a cheap & wonderful SpeedTwin (& there we are 🙄🤷🏻♂️)
Fazit: I guess every time & moment in life there will be reasons for one or rather more bikes - in your situation it’s time for sth. new & well performing: this wonderful o n e Tiger Rally Pro 2024 ❤
My thoughts exactly 👍😊
"I'll swap out the Tigers tyre, when it wears out"
Hahaha. With your record, like you're going to keep it that long...
Fair point
I recall that the previous Tiger model you had tested (back in 2021 ?) didn't suit you for a list of reasons, one of them was the lack of power. Is the 2024 one really that different and improved?
Good memory! Yes, the new engine feels more meaty👍😊
RM: “I don’t think anyone will claim Adventure bikes are the best-looking bikes…”
Me: Looks in garage at my new ‘23 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC. Smiles with a hint of smugness.
Beautiful looking, but no wind protection and the heat from that exhaust are dealbreakers for me unfortunately😟
@@RocketMan_Moto They moved the catalytic converter away from the rider and to the rear of the pipe in ‘21, but, yeah, wind resistance is minimal at best. I have a small flyscreen on mine, but it’s honestly more decorative than functional.
I finish nearly every group ride with a 30-60 minute motorway blast. I need a proper windscreen, even though they look naff😂
In Japan I'll go for the transalp, make it tubeless and add cruise.
If I moved back to the usa with the bigger faster roads.... as much as I love the africatwin, I think the tiger pro is a no trainer with the biggest faster roads the usa has
Makes sense
What gps/phone mount bracket do you have on your Tiger? I have the quad lock pro mount as you do, but on the bar. With a tank bag it's not ideal. It looks like the bracket mounted off the windscreen is a good solution. Agreed on all points in the video as well. I love my 2024 rally pro!
I fitted a €15 accessory bar from AliExpress. Surprisingly good quality and seems to work fine.
@@RocketMan_Moto that's what it looked like. I'll give it a try, thank you!
Nice balanced review
Thanks😊👍
The legendary honda 😳🤌❤️🔥❤️🔥
I prefer the Tiger😉
On our tour of the triumph factory we were there is absolutely no need to run in a triumph engine. We were all a little disbelieving but were told this is absolutely correct....... BUT you must run in brakes,tyres and suspension which if you think about is true everytime you have tyres or brakes you are warned to go steady for a few hundred miles.
Did you miss told ? We were there is.
Interesting... but why does Triumph put that big sticker on the tank with the revs you're allowed to use as the mileage increases?
@@RocketMan_Moto I wouldn't believe what I was told at the triumph factory anyway.