Lived right outside of Missoula for many years, maybe Missoula is welcoming newcomers but down the road not so much. You did not mention the terrible hard cold snow filled winters. Over the years I have seen lots of people move here but they move out after a couple years. Wages are low, winters are cold and it is expensive. Our locals are finding they can no longer afford to live in their homes because of high property taxes and rent is high. So that has a lot to do with how the locals feel about the new comers. Just thought I would share some of local feelings not all of us feel that way but oh Jeff now so so many do.
I was displaced from portland last year due to southern californians, I found a place way up in the woods at a more than affordable price. Within one year the owners of the property got the greed disease and because “their friends told them they could get more money” and “they saw houses selling in town for over .5mil” I now have a more than 50% rent increase. I have a great job and run my own business part time, I’m going to have to run from here soon too unfortunately…..
@@drue6360 This is where Im trying to come from...I'm in Portland, born n raised. It fell straight down the shitter. Trying to get outta here. Would you suggest somewhere better? I thought missoula sounded nice.
@@Caseyedwards-Turbojackelope I don’t have any answers. It’s still possible to eek out a living here, def more than portland, but this won’t last much longer. If you can work remotely, you’re going to have to live in one of those towns you drive by on a backcountry highway where you blink and you’ve passed through. Those two or three building towns where it looks like meth came in and ravaged it in a matter of days, those types of places are our only option at this point. Be ready to make 2hour trips to get stocked up on food and fuel, if you’re ever hurt you won’t be able to get help, this is the preapocalyptic world we live in.
@@drue6360 The entire northwest will be unaffordable for anyone but the rich in 2 years. Best to move to areas where people are not. Start your own areas. Middle of nowhere in Montana is dirt cheap and can be turned into a good community.
I went from a university up to Montana as well for graduate school. I went to Montana State. Great School but there were a few shitheads there and they weren't for Montana either but from places like Michigan Minnesota and Oregon. Other than that I love the place
@@ariel6505 I'm trying to get the hell out of Portland. I'm stuck here to fulfill a contract until October of 2022. I'm very excited to leave Portland in the dust. This city used to be very pretty and now its really gross.
I’m a truck driver from East Tennessee and this place feels like back home small but growing. Nestled in the mountains with all kinds of things to do outdoors.
This is living right down here This channel is Top notch the best Travel Guide on all of youtube 99% of the other channels spend 99% of the time just showing their faces instead of the location they're visiting, Plus you get loads of info here, Well done Mate 10/10
Missoula is a great place to visit. Late August through September are particularly nice, if the forest fire season has been mild. Otherwise, late April to early June is good as well. Lots of local sites and attractions not mentioned in the video. You can do a couple days in Missoula and do an easy weekend trip to Glacier Park as well, which is very worth it.
Missoula is known for its blue-ribbon trout fishing (made famous by A River Runs Through It) and spectacular natural beauty. The outdoor recreational opportunities are limitless. ... And we proudly live our history - Native American and Lewis & Clark to Smokejumpers and Glacial Lake Missoula.
Hi guy ! love your video. It gets me miss the Missoula so much during my study at the UM. Miss the Clark Fork river in the summer for floading with cool smoke beer.
Had to search the comments before replying, that was funny! For OP, the Oxford is a historic saloon that leans into preserving that history. More old west than old Westminster.
Great video! Such a beautiful place. My husband and I Added Missoula to our potential list. We’d just need to make sure he can move his plumbing job over. I’m an admin so can find something anywhere we go. Thank for the video
Any thoughts on best town/city you would prefer to live in between Prescott, Missoula, or Boise? I understand different populations, but your thoughts or anyone interested to chime in would be great!
great video. I cant wait to video Montana. On a side note. I always find it interesting how settlers wanted protection from hostile invaders....when technically THEY were the invaders. Its really no different than if someone were to camp on your front yard. I get it though. It was the past. Its just ironic. natives did horrible things to other natives as well, so please dont flame me lol.
Montana is a great place to visit. I take a yearly trip to MT to elk hunt for many years and love it. Saying that to suggest, visit MT and enjoy it, but I wouldn't move there.
Went to U of M in 1974-75. Went back in 2018 and climbed up to the "M". I almost died--should have done it when I was 20 years old. Missoula in 2018 is very gentrified. Missoula Wine Merchants and Worden's are a far cry from Freddy's Feed and Read.
My Son me and my best friend are flying there in August for Pearl Jam.. we only have a few days .. got a little time .. what do recommend.. we are from KS .. thanks .. love the video ❤
My bf and I are going for the first time the second week of November from WA state. I know there may be snow but I’m hoping we will still be able enjoy ourselves as I mainly wanted to go for the beauty of the state. Thanks for the video!
I'll be moving there next month :) i love montana. I wanted to move to kalispel but im a trucker and missoula is off i90 so its easy to find a job. Itll be nice to go home without having to deal with all the traffic and commotion i get in Western Washington. And it seems very truck friendly unline washington
I'm also looking for an out of the ways place like this to move to. Get a house with acreage and park my truck right in the driveway. Ah, man its good to dream. Republican from socal btw.
@@charlottaw599 i get use to it. Even i use to live in McCall Idaho for couple years and after that work in Williston ND. for other 3 1/2 years. I love snow.😂👍
@@chaitea6829 I want to move from LA so badly! Lived in Sweden 1/2 my life then here. California is still such a beautiful state with the most diverse landscape but well, you know…
Great video. I'm going there in a month so I'm just getting ready. Question; are you walking away at the end of every shot on purpose or did it just end up that way? Lol I'm not trying to be mean, I just noticed that. It's definitely a style
There used to be beautiful trees, picnic tables and benches in front of that courthouse....but, because homeless people sat on those benches ( OMG!!)...they took EVERY TREE, PICNIC TABLE AND BENCHES OUT!! UGLY!! JUST PLAIN UGLY NOW!! BUT...I LOVE Missoula!!! Used to live there 💕😊
I 💓 Missoula it's my favorite place ... I 've always had some much fun in Zootown.... Whether it was going 2 pubs, distelleries, bars or just being in nature or chillin by there river ... One thing I 💓 about Missoula is as a gay man I always feel so safe & I also feel safe walking around at nite by myself which I don't feel here living in Seattle .... Can't wait 2 get back 2 Zootown 2 see my friends & 2 enjoy nature in Jan.....
@@michaelhuang0417 aw, I love it! However, I respect the locals and hate to see the growth of such a beautiful state and don't want to be a part of the growth. I travel across country to MT at least once per year, and will leave it that way. I'll just keep giving MT FWS and the locals my money every year. 😉
Who remembers Charlies, Connies/the Pine Street Tavern, Tommy the Leprechaun, punk bands at Jays Upstairs? Trucks scraping their tops in the Orange Street wormhole despite the flashing warning sign…
I lived in Msla in the early and mid '70s. I was happy to call it my home, made many friends during my brief college days. Then I left with a young girlfriend, whom I married and much later divorced. The Puget Sound area of Seattle and into the west slope of the Cascades can do that to couples. Anyway, Msla has changed from the old days. Not sure I'd want to live there again, even if I could afford it. Have no problem with it being a liberal bastion of the western part of the state. I don't like newcomers moving here for reasons you mentioned.
I moved to MIssoula in 1986. Folks weren't very welcoming to people from out-of state even back then. my oldest son, who was middle school age was bullied as soon as he started middle school. . Thanks for sharing. MIssoula is a great place to live. But even when I moved here in 1986, people weren't very welcoming to people from out of state. which was absurd because my family has lived in Missoula since 1921.The field behind sentinel high school is named Stegner field after my grandfather who was a well known and successful track coach. so if I was coach's granddaughter it was okay if I moved here. Of course we used to come up here to visit my grandparents and cousins every summer. Oddly, I ended up with the original mortgage documents to my grandparents house on Plymouth in the slant streets. they paid $900 for it in the 1930s. those prices are long gone in MIssoula now. I don't think that you can even rent an apartment for that amount of money. and you certainly can't buy a house.
Missoula is a place by itself. University of Montana is a good college. Sorry, the bitter cold winters would be too rough ln me. Perfect place for a summer home.
I couldn't agree more . The native montana folks are the nicest people anywhere. I miss missoula. Just wish Californians would leave so home prices would go back down then I will move back
You mean native Montana as in indigenous Native Americans and not Anglo Americans right? Unless you’re NA then you’re just as an immigrant as the Californians as well.
@@aether4554 No. I think he means, people from Montana who lived there before trash Californians from San Fransisco migrated across the country to every nice place they could find to avoid fixing their communist hellhole of a state. That they destroyed and refuse to fix or acknowledge. And then pseudo their way out of constructive self analysis by embuing themselves with a Native American likeness. As if there is any similarity, whatsoever. Natives respect the land. Californians trash it. Which is why every National Park in the state now requires permitting, and people can't even go visit yellow poppy fields. Then they cry "THATS NOT ALL OF US". Yes. Yes it is. These people destroyed Bend Oregon too. And Colorado. And Texas. And Arizona. And basically everything they touch. Because they're an incognizant disease of state programmed social media junkies and tech addicts who have a disconnect with themselves and everything around them.
Texans have ruined Montana the most. But everyone scapegoats on Californians because it's trendy. Most Californians are pretty chill except Bay Area hipsters. It's a big state and very rural and red.
Don’t know about the growth thing. Some pretty substantial changes in the economy would have to happen. Right now anyone (who isn’t already established) besides wealthy people importing money can’t really afford to live in Missoula. Time will tell I suppose.
@@IslandHopperTV Jackson is super expensive;;;that's where billionaires have their 2nd homes..but the pics and videos of the place don't lie...stunning
Camp along one of our rivers in town. Some people will come along and move you to a free motel. Do some paper work and you will get free medical and free dental. Free meals. City will not arrest you because jail is a revolving door. Some of our new residents think jail is a luxury motel in the winter. Putting you in an apartment looks better than having you in jail and creates a housing shortage. City is creating a homeless problem in order to make a solution. What is Mayor Engen's solution? The largest drug treatment center in USA. The largest mental health treatment center in USA. City is buying property and zoning for such a thing on West Broadway. Called a Green economy. I have lived in Missoula since 1960. You want all the things to do, move to Portland Oregon. There is much more variety of activities. Drug related crime here is getting out of control and more police is not working. Higher taxes with no results. People are people no matter how many trees you have. The city's actions encourage all the unfortunates of other towns to come here. Professional tax leeches.
people from bay area, portland, seattle are way worse. fun fact: texans are ruining montana the most, but everyone scapegoats on californians because it's trendy. sheep
I love your videos. We are here in Missoula for a few days. Up from Hill Country Texas. Are there any other videos you do in addition to “IslandHopper.” Probably some of the best travel guide. Full of information and to the point. Nice voice to listen to. Others travel guides try to hard and talk too much about themselves. Thanks.
I'm American living in Alberta Canada. Let me tell you, I'm looking to relocate. Why? I've NEVER seen a more unhappy people than here and mainly because most come from all over the world. Different cultures. There's not much eye contact and NO smiles. Smiles are rare. I've been here just over 5 years now and I'm feeling the strong oppression not to mention most Canadians do NOT like Americans. Welcome to Canada. It is beautiful up here... Oh my!! The town of Cochrane is my happy place however!! I'm so sad from the culture and I've been harrassed a few times for just being American. Either they love you or hate you. So, the other people coming in to Montana from other States, I can almost tell you that their attitude is probably by far better than most Canadians. Now I've gotten to experience it up here... I now know that Canada and Australia are close knit together and that most Australians don't like us either. Nice! So, most will be nice to your face but watch their eyes... Tells alot!! I've got alot of stories and when I've shared with my family and friends back in the US... Their mouths drop open. I've never cried so hard in my life and I wished it was different but it's not. So, I'm looking to relocate.... USA .... I'm in love with you my home land. ❤️🇺🇸
Alberta is kind of its own thing. Kind of the Wyoming of Canada, even if your experience is coming from Montana. I'm sure you don't need another American to tell you that life is different if you were living in BC or Ontario.
@@javyjavyjavyjavy I've heard that... But most Canadians in general do not like Americans. I don't think most Americans do not like Canadians. Although, I now know how the Mexicans feel. Honestly, here, I think most the atmosphere is due to the different cultures coming in. I hear the East coast people are a little bit different in Canada but I met one lady and I thought she was really sweet. I hear Quebec is French and most French people do not even like the other Canadians and in fact I hear at least the buzzword is that they don't like anybody coming into Quebec that's not a French Canadian. Well my parents sold their home in Duvall Washington to a Quebec couple that was having a baby and they were actually offered a lot more money from a single guy who really wanted it but my parents took under their asking price for a family to come into the neighborhood so they said yes to the Quebec family. I don't know they were really nice to us. but I've heard a lot of different people even different people I've met strangers going back to the states that have traveled through or vacation through Canada and I haven't met anybody that was happy with BC either and it's interesting cuz I've never had a issue with anyone from BC I think that they're really friendly. But I guess even people from BC can't stand the US people. Would you happen to be a dual citizen by any chance?
Why do you say this? We're moving out of Oregon for obvious reasons and Missoula is high on our list. I don't want to be anywhere that resembles Portland in any way.
@@andrewnelson3683 Dont move to Missoula, Bozeman, or Billings then. All of southern Montana is flooded with California and Portland hipsters taking over.
Went there in 2021 for trucking school. Enjoyed my time in the state. Very beautiful place.
Lived right outside of Missoula for many years, maybe Missoula is welcoming newcomers but down the road not so much. You did not mention the terrible hard cold snow filled winters. Over the years I have seen lots of people move here but they move out after a couple years. Wages are low, winters are cold and it is expensive. Our locals are finding they can no longer afford to live in their homes because of high property taxes and rent is high. So that has a lot to do with how the locals feel about the new comers. Just thought I would share some of local feelings not all of us feel that way but oh Jeff now so so many do.
I was displaced from portland last year due to southern californians, I found a place way up in the woods at a more than affordable price. Within one year the owners of the property got the greed disease and because “their friends told them they could get more money” and “they saw houses selling in town for over .5mil” I now have a more than 50% rent increase. I have a great job and run my own business part time, I’m going to have to run from here soon too unfortunately…..
@@drue6360 This is where Im trying to come from...I'm in Portland, born n raised. It fell straight down the shitter. Trying to get outta here. Would you suggest somewhere better? I thought missoula sounded nice.
@@Caseyedwards-Turbojackelope I don’t have any answers. It’s still possible to eek out a living here, def more than portland, but this won’t last much longer. If you can work remotely, you’re going to have to live in one of those towns you drive by on a backcountry highway where you blink and you’ve passed through. Those two or three building towns where it looks like meth came in and ravaged it in a matter of days, those types of places are our only option at this point. Be ready to make 2hour trips to get stocked up on food and fuel, if you’re ever hurt you won’t be able to get help, this is the preapocalyptic world we live in.
@@drue6360 The entire northwest will be unaffordable for anyone but the rich in 2 years. Best to move to areas where people are not. Start your own areas. Middle of nowhere in Montana is dirt cheap and can be turned into a good community.
@@JesusChrist2000BC already there, already doing it. Started my own business and it’s fuckin BOOMIN
I like all your videos and the way you explain the things! You are a great person! All the best and success!
Loved this! Moving up to Montana in about a year for University from Arizona. Big change but I’m excited!
I went from a university up to Montana as well for graduate school. I went to Montana State. Great School but there were a few shitheads there and they weren't for Montana either but from places like Michigan Minnesota and Oregon. Other than that I love the place
@@tvtvvtvt8017wdym shitheads? Like racists? Or just bad people?
This was a beautiful video for Downtown missoula, thank you, I love living in missoula MT truly.
@Katherine H oh yes, I ve never really heard anyone regret moving here, you will love it. Thank you for your service
@@ariel6505 I'm trying to get the hell out of Portland. I'm stuck here to fulfill a contract until October of 2022. I'm very excited to leave Portland in the dust. This city used to be very pretty and now its really gross.
@@ariel6505 *is it safe for a colored person to live? Because it is beautiful,I just don't want to live in a place where you get a lot of stare.*
@@princetigerbeatz9316 of course it is
@@ariel6505 Cool, because certain places in Idaho was weird.
Taking a plane to visit my family in Montana, couldn’t be more excited, I just can’t wait so I watch these until I can actually go!
Wait til u see how beautiful
Studied and lived there many years ago! A place filled with so many memories!
I’m a truck driver from East Tennessee and this place feels like back home small but growing. Nestled in the mountains with all kinds of things to do outdoors.
Think Pigeon Forge without the crazy tourist traps.
@@yourmom9758 exactly lol
Awesome thank, thank you for sharing
Thank you sir for information about Missoula Montana hope to visit sometime soon. GODBLESS ❤
Loving to see this! And that was an awesome wildpainted mural!
Going up next month for our 2nd visit. We liked the Iron Horse. Good video, thanks for sharing
I really enjoyed your video. Great channel. ⭐️💕
Greetings from Albania. 👋🏼🇦🇱
This is living right down here
This channel is Top notch the best Travel Guide on all of youtube 99% of the other channels spend 99% of the time just showing their faces instead of the location they're visiting, Plus you get loads of info here, Well done Mate 10/10
Very informative. Scenic place. Nice town, seems quite and peaceful. Considering a visit.
Canada is better but any northern border town is better than nothing.
Missoula is a great place to visit. Late August through September are particularly nice, if the forest fire season has been mild. Otherwise, late April to early June is good as well. Lots of local sites and attractions not mentioned in the video. You can do a couple days in Missoula and do an easy weekend trip to Glacier Park as well, which is very worth it.
MSLA will always be home! Thx for sharing!
Missoula is known for its blue-ribbon trout fishing (made famous by A River Runs Through It) and spectacular natural beauty. The outdoor recreational opportunities are limitless. ... And we proudly live our history - Native American and Lewis & Clark to Smokejumpers and Glacial Lake Missoula.
Hi guy ! love your video. It gets me miss the Missoula so much during my study at the UM. Miss the Clark Fork river in the summer for floading with cool smoke beer.
Very nice travel vlog! Great presentation! I am a new subscriber to your channel.
Thanks for this thoughtful, helpful episode.
I got a lot from it.
Love to see Big Blue represented in Montana. Go Blue!
My name is Wesley Kisor. I don't know if you knew but the novel A River Runs Through It which was made into a movie was filmed in Missoula Montana.
It is a perfect video. This city stole my heart.😃
I miss living in missoula montana I can only go there for the summer now though :( I was visiting when this video was posted lol
This was great! I love living here ❤️
The Oxford, "I would imagine that's a British Pub". made me chuckle.
Great little spot to eat.
I almost Laughed out loud when he said that ... Obviously he did not go inside. @BrandonGange yes a great eating place
Had to search the comments before replying, that was funny! For OP, the Oxford is a historic saloon that leans into preserving that history. More old west than old Westminster.
They need upgrade great falls Montana nice video
I'd love to come out to Missoula and perform. Possibly this summer.
Excellent tour!
I'm from Brazil and I came from the Maid series, fantastic city 😍
Same here from the Maid series , I am from Germany 😍
Me too from Maid series, Italy
Hey Jeff. Been watching Yellowstone so here I am.
Great video! Such a beautiful place. My husband and I Added Missoula to our potential list. We’d just need to make sure he can move his plumbing job over. I’m an admin so can find something anywhere we go. Thank for the video
Great video
Here because of Maid. Beautiful.
Any thoughts on best town/city you would prefer to live in between Prescott, Missoula, or Boise? I understand different populations, but your thoughts or anyone interested to chime in would be great!
Nice small town city. Clean and orderly.
Oh no you have not seen the poverello
@@riesenratte3480Compared to Los Angeles county where l live, Missoula is way cleaner and well organized.
going to school up there!! cant wait!!
Just came back from Missoula. I love Montana!!❤
Good stuff! Small detail when you pointed out the M it was actually Greenough park in the lower rattlesnake
Looks nice. I'd love to visit, one of these days.
great video. I cant wait to video Montana.
On a side note. I always find it interesting how settlers wanted protection from hostile invaders....when technically THEY were the invaders. Its really no different than if someone were to camp on your front yard. I get it though. It was the past. Its just ironic. natives did horrible things to other natives as well, so please dont flame me lol.
Very true!!
they built a nation from scratch. there was nothing here. but thank you for acknowledging the concept of racial territory as legit.
Pass through there a week ago coming from whitefish . They were getting hit with 3 ft of snow ❄️.
Another great tour. Not gonna lie, your videos make me want to move to Montana BTW: SURFING IN MONTANA?!!
Eyy we're closed
Stay where your at
Montana is a great place to visit. I take a yearly trip to MT to elk hunt for many years and love it. Saying that to suggest, visit MT and enjoy it, but I wouldn't move there.
Went to U of M in 1974-75. Went back in 2018 and climbed up to the "M". I almost died--should have done it when I was 20 years old. Missoula in 2018 is very gentrified. Missoula Wine Merchants and Worden's are a far cry from Freddy's Feed and Read.
Seriously considering moving to Missoula next fall. Need to get out of Illinois asap & sadly CO has become just the same. 😣
Don’t move to Montana .. it’s crowded enough…. Try North Dakota
@@jeffkuykendall3189 Now I'm definitely moving to Montana just for you. Thanks for the tip. And lucky for you I'm a "crazy socialist".
dude im in illinois too wanting out. i would love to montana been wanting to move there or colorado for years.. just have to get a job out there first
@@blakeantos1301 Colorado is garbage now. There are pockets of the city to get away but it’s few and far between.
Great tour. Guessing the one’s with Sticks up the rear are from; Californey & NY’ers primarily. No surprise.
My hometown! ♥️♥️♥️
I like to visit
My Son me and my best friend are flying there in August for Pearl Jam.. we only have a few days .. got a little time .. what do recommend.. we are from KS .. thanks .. love the video ❤
My bf and I are going for the first time the second week of November from WA state. I know there may be snow but I’m hoping we will still be able enjoy ourselves as I mainly wanted to go for the beauty of the state. Thanks for the video!
I love how EVERY single town and state locals say, "Don't move here! We won't accept you!" Lol why? I'm an American like you.
Hey Jeff, Been a while since I had time to watch videos, I have 10 acres on the Clark Fork river, never seen it. Hahaha.
never seen it? Dang. I hope you can get up there and see your land its like America's Switzerland up there.
I'll be moving there next month :) i love montana. I wanted to move to kalispel but im a trucker and missoula is off i90 so its easy to find a job.
Itll be nice to go home without having to deal with all the traffic and commotion i get in Western Washington. And it seems very truck friendly unline washington
I'm also looking for an out of the ways place like this to move to. Get a house with acreage and park my truck right in the driveway. Ah, man its good to dream. Republican from socal btw.
Considering moving there is it a good idea?
missoula its my dream too move into mountana amazing place
Love missoula ❤️ living there for bout 14 years.....now im in thailand....will be back there soon miss missoula zoo town...🥰
How do you go back to the snow after Thailand?!
@@charlottaw599 i get use to it. Even i use to live in McCall Idaho for couple years and after that work in Williston ND. for other 3 1/2 years. I love snow.😂👍
@@chaitea6829 I want to move from LA so badly!
Lived in Sweden 1/2 my life then here. California is still such a beautiful state with the most diverse landscape but well, you know…
Great video. I'm going there in a month so I'm just getting ready. Question; are you walking away at the end of every shot on purpose or did it just end up that way? Lol I'm not trying to be mean, I just noticed that. It's definitely a style
The little downtown looks so quaint.
There used to be beautiful trees, picnic tables and benches in front of that courthouse....but, because homeless people sat on those benches ( OMG!!)...they took EVERY TREE, PICNIC TABLE AND BENCHES OUT!! UGLY!! JUST PLAIN UGLY NOW!! BUT...I LOVE Missoula!!! Used to live there 💕😊
That's really sad :(
I 💓 Missoula it's my favorite place ... I 've always had some much fun in Zootown.... Whether it was going 2 pubs, distelleries, bars or just being in nature or chillin by there river ... One thing I 💓 about Missoula is as a gay man I always feel so safe & I also feel safe walking around at nite by myself which I don't feel here living in Seattle .... Can't wait 2 get back 2 Zootown 2 see my friends & 2 enjoy nature in Jan.....
nice surfin :)
I visit MT yearly, and absolutely love it. However, wouldn't want to move there.
if you wouldnt move there you don't "absolutely love it", you kind of liked it.
@@michaelhuang0417 aw, I love it! However, I respect the locals and hate to see the growth of such a beautiful state and don't want to be a part of the growth. I travel across country to MT at least once per year, and will leave it that way. I'll just keep giving MT FWS and the locals my money every year. 😉
Who remembers Charlies, Connies/the Pine Street Tavern, Tommy the Leprechaun, punk bands at Jays Upstairs? Trucks scraping their tops in the Orange Street wormhole despite the flashing warning sign…
I lived in Msla in the early and mid '70s. I was happy to call it my home, made many friends during my brief college days. Then I left with a young girlfriend, whom I married and much later divorced. The Puget Sound area of Seattle and into the west slope of the Cascades can do that to couples. Anyway, Msla has changed from the old days. Not sure I'd want to live there again, even if I could afford it. Have no problem with it being a liberal bastion of the western part of the state. I don't like newcomers moving here for reasons you mentioned.
Missoula's growing faster than Billings, so it's just a matter of time before it catches it to become the largest city in Montana.
Damn, you missed the best thing in Missoula, that being the mecca of FCS football, Washington-Grizzly stadium!
Thx
Good vid
This re-enforces the reasoning behind me moving from Canada to here
A beautiful city. Are there good job opportunities and nutrition?
Big Sky Country!
I moved to MIssoula in 1986. Folks weren't very welcoming to people from out-of state even back then. my oldest son, who was middle school age was bullied as soon as he started middle school. . Thanks for sharing. MIssoula is a great place to live. But even when I moved here in 1986, people weren't very welcoming to people from out of state. which was absurd because my family has lived in Missoula since 1921.The field behind sentinel high school is named Stegner field after my grandfather who was a well known and successful track coach. so if I was coach's granddaughter it was okay if I moved here. Of course we used to come up here to visit my grandparents and cousins every summer. Oddly, I ended up with the original mortgage documents to my grandparents house on Plymouth in the slant streets. they paid $900 for it in the 1930s. those prices are long gone in MIssoula now. I don't think that you can even rent an apartment for that amount of money. and you certainly can't buy a house.
Coming over from Scotland for a visit soon, now i know where the bars are 😆
You’re looking cool sporting that grey hair. Do folks in Montana like folks from AZ?
We don't mind people from AZ at all ;)
@@MrBodoFraggins But folks from So, Cal?
@@royking7298 they might receive a less warm welcome from some, but overall, Missoula is very friendly.
What about people from Seattle?
@@dude4173 Sure. All good.
The bright shirt makes you look young and energetic.
Missoula is a place by itself. University of Montana is a good college. Sorry, the bitter cold winters would be too rough ln me. Perfect place for a summer home.
I couldn't agree more . The native montana folks are the nicest people anywhere. I miss missoula. Just wish Californians would leave so home prices would go back down then I will move back
You mean native Montana as in indigenous Native Americans and not Anglo Americans right? Unless you’re NA then you’re just as an immigrant as the Californians as well.
@@aether4554 - Amen!
@@aether4554 No. I think he means, people from Montana who lived there before trash Californians from San Fransisco migrated across the country to every nice place they could find to avoid fixing their communist hellhole of a state. That they destroyed and refuse to fix or acknowledge. And then pseudo their way out of constructive self analysis by embuing themselves with a Native American likeness. As if there is any similarity, whatsoever. Natives respect the land. Californians trash it. Which is why every National Park in the state now requires permitting, and people can't even go visit yellow poppy fields. Then they cry "THATS NOT ALL OF US". Yes. Yes it is. These people destroyed Bend Oregon too. And Colorado. And Texas. And Arizona. And basically everything they touch. Because they're an incognizant disease of state programmed social media junkies and tech addicts who have a disconnect with themselves and everything around them.
Texans have ruined Montana the most. But everyone scapegoats on Californians because it's trendy. Most Californians are pretty chill except Bay Area hipsters. It's a big state and very rural and red.
@mikeauxbig exactly how did Texans ruined Montana? Would you please elaborate?
Don’t know about the growth thing. Some pretty substantial changes in the economy would have to happen. Right now anyone (who isn’t already established) besides wealthy people importing money can’t really afford to live in Missoula. Time will tell I suppose.
Montana's greatest city"
Great video...What's your favorite town in the US?
Key west is fun
@@IslandHopperTV awesome what about your favorite mountain town?
@@jeffyeah4256 Jackson Wyoming and the surrounding area. I will keep exploring ask me again in a year.
@@IslandHopperTV what about mexico? favorite town over there
@@IslandHopperTV Jackson is super expensive;;;that's where billionaires have their 2nd homes..but the pics and videos of the place don't lie...stunning
I've been to Missoula a few times. It's a gorgeous town. If I ever had the money, I wouldn't mind living there. But I don't, so I won't.
I would like going there
Thank you for the public service announcement. As a planner I can appreciate the efforts to control harmful displacement.
OMG I have a friend who moved to Missoula from Milwaukee, Wi🚶
The statue of the kayaker is actually Brendan representing Brendan who died here.
California, New York, and Boston would be my guess.
Camp along one of our rivers in town. Some people will come along and move you to a free motel. Do some paper work and you will get free medical and free dental. Free meals. City will not arrest you because jail is a revolving door. Some of our new residents think jail is a luxury motel in the winter. Putting you in an apartment looks better than having you in jail and creates a housing shortage. City is creating a homeless problem in order to make a solution. What is Mayor Engen's solution? The largest drug treatment center in USA. The largest mental health treatment center in USA. City is buying property and zoning for such a thing on West Broadway. Called a Green economy. I have lived in Missoula since 1960. You want all the things to do, move to Portland Oregon. There is much more variety of activities. Drug related crime here is getting out of control and more police is not working. Higher taxes with no results. People are people no matter how many trees you have. The city's actions encourage all the unfortunates of other towns to come here. Professional tax leeches.
It's a mess, that's for sure!
Man, I wish I lived there.
So many good native Americans all up through Montana
I bet its people from Los Angeles bringing the rude 'tude.
people from bay area, portland, seattle are way worse. fun fact: texans are ruining montana the most, but everyone scapegoats on californians because it's trendy. sheep
I love your videos. We are here in Missoula for a few days. Up from Hill Country Texas. Are there any other videos you do in addition to “IslandHopper.” Probably some of the best travel guide. Full of information and to the point. Nice voice to listen to. Others travel guides try to hard and talk too much about themselves.
Thanks.
Do you have any video on Montana during winter?
I'm American living in Alberta Canada. Let me tell you, I'm looking to relocate. Why?
I've NEVER seen a more unhappy people than here and mainly because most come from all over the world.
Different cultures. There's not much eye contact and NO smiles. Smiles are rare.
I've been here just over 5 years now and I'm feeling the strong oppression not to mention most Canadians do NOT like Americans. Welcome to Canada.
It is beautiful up here... Oh my!!
The town of Cochrane is my happy place however!!
I'm so sad from the culture and I've been harrassed a few times for just being American. Either they love you or hate you.
So, the other people coming in to Montana from other States, I can almost tell you that their attitude is probably by far better than most Canadians.
Now I've gotten to experience it up here...
I now know that Canada and Australia are close knit together and that most Australians don't like us either. Nice!
So, most will be nice to your face but watch their eyes... Tells alot!!
I've got alot of stories and when I've shared with my family and friends back in the US... Their mouths drop open.
I've never cried so hard in my life and I wished it was different but it's not.
So, I'm looking to relocate....
USA .... I'm in love with you my home land.
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Alberta is kind of its own thing. Kind of the Wyoming of Canada, even if your experience is coming from Montana. I'm sure you don't need another American to tell you that life is different if you were living in BC or Ontario.
@@javyjavyjavyjavy I've heard that... But most Canadians in general do not like Americans. I don't think most Americans do not like Canadians.
Although, I now know how the Mexicans feel.
Honestly, here, I think most the atmosphere is due to the different cultures coming in.
I hear the East coast people are a little bit different in Canada but I met one lady and I thought she was really sweet.
I hear Quebec is French and most French people do not even like the other Canadians and in fact I hear at least the buzzword is that they don't like anybody coming into Quebec that's not a French Canadian.
Well my parents sold their home in Duvall Washington to a Quebec couple that was having a baby and they were actually offered a lot more money from a single guy who really wanted it but my parents took under their asking price for a family to come into the neighborhood so they said yes to the Quebec family. I don't know they were really nice to us. but I've heard a lot of different people even different people I've met strangers going back to the states that have traveled through or vacation through Canada and I haven't met anybody that was happy with BC either and it's interesting cuz I've never had a issue with anyone from BC I think that they're really friendly.
But I guess even people from BC can't stand the US people.
Would you happen to be a dual citizen by any chance?
Stay there, we don't want you back
Thomas's last name was pronouced Mar as in the planet without the S. There is also a county named after him. As any local if I am right.
Why are the roads 3 miles wide😆
I’m from Portland. I would love to meet friendly people. I’ve always hated people here but it’s only gotten worse since so many ppl have come here
Better known as Little Portland
Scary thought.
Why do you say this? We're moving out of Oregon for obvious reasons and Missoula is high on our list. I don't want to be anywhere that resembles Portland in any way.
@@andrewnelson3683 Dont move to Missoula, Bozeman, or Billings then. All of southern Montana is flooded with California and Portland hipsters taking over.
Snobs come from New York and California
California and Texas
Of course they’re coming from California! Don’t move here, just visit!!
Who's here after watching maid ?
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Leland told me to go back to Missoula, Montanta
My hometown
Lol I like how this video only showed the “good” parts about Missoula… what about the bums and the tents ! 😅