@islandhopper100 A legend in his/her own mind, you talk foolishness WeedHopper100, keep popping your over sized mouth off and show others how st*pid you really are, the know it all of nothing. 🤣. Your Day-Pass has expired. 🤣 🤣
Just got my LC for about a week now and drove the first tank to empty. Total average was 23.2 MPG, about 65% highway 35% city. I noticed I was averaging like 26-27 MPG while cruising on the highway (I drive like a grandma, around 60MPH). Loving this thing so far!!
Wanted to let you know that I appreciate all these videos about the land cruiser. Also, I appreciate that you mentioned that the CarPlay is working well. I’m always especially curious about the technology quality in these vehicles. Keep it up! I hope this ends up being the best rig you’ve ever ever had.
A REAL world vid...good deal...not just haters not wanting/liking the 4 cyl, and not just fan boy reviewers who walk around the vehicle and tell you how great it is without actually driving it.
It sucks to have a payment like this, but I like to own the vehicles I feel my audience would consider buying to give real world experience with them. I appreciate it!
I have 1958 base, premium and drive like a grandma with smaller tires. Coasts well and get 27.7. If I am freeway it’s about 22.6 and I am at about 8k miles already
just shows how low his iq is....typical car salesman(thinking is done as a last resort). gee my wife drove near 80 and I drove 70...sooo hard to figure, it has to the premuim gas...what a clown.
Hey Jon, I just got my LC FE in Meteor Shower. Loving it. Similar but different from our 1999 Land Cruiser. Something for you to consider: you may want to keep better ventilation about the NiMh battery in the back end. You had your truck really packed tight, and that vent needs to be clear so you don’t heat up the hybrid battery. Just a thought. Dr. M
My case for using higher octane is: less stops at gas stations. Not concerned about the price of gas itself but all the snacks and drinks my family tends to buy in every fueling stop😅
So, in my state DE, you actually could get 24mpg doing the speed limit here(55 mph). If you're getting 23mpg driving 70mph, 24- 25mpg shouldn't even be an issue in my area.
Funny enough, I get a very similar noise on the highway from the lower A-pillar on my 5th Gen 4Runner, but the driver's side. Only appeared recently... when I had the windshield replaced.
I have such an old 5g 4Runner that I hesitate to say anything at 290k on my 2011…but it is 💯 true that I did not have a single sound from the dash, center stack, or a-pillars until I finally decided to replace the windshield. After a new windshield I have a squeak that I have never heard before from the center, just to the right of the driver side windshield wiper at rest.
Just like the toyota Crown Platinum model which is completely focused on Performance rather than savings, the New Landcruiser purpose is performance orientated.
HUGE fan of the 200 series Land Cruiser, despite never having owned one. I am fortunate enough to own an 8 cylinder truck of another make, and I LOVE the entire 8 cylinder, body on frame, driving experience. Do not know whether it's true, but I have read that automakers moved from 8 cylinder, and now even 6 cylinder engines to hybrids and turbo 4's, less to do with mpg per se, than government mandated emissions standards. It seems to be true, because, if the 8 cylinder Land Cruiser was getting approximately 15 mpg on the highway, then a turbo 4 cylinder getting approximately 19 (or even 20 mpg) on the highway is not exactly something to brag about. Just going off of what people type on RUclips, there seem to be plenty of people who would happily pay for the gas, if they could get their beloved 5.7 & 4.6 liter 8 cylinder engines back in (a brand new) their 200-series Land Cruiser's, LX 570's, GX 460's, Tundra's and Sequoia's. The flip side is that, there are also plenty of people who barely care what type of powertrain is in their vehicle, as long as it has Apple Car Play and a heated steering wheel.
I don't really get the argument of tuning the LC for premium gas making it better as a global platform. Basically they are increasing the gas requirement, which means it would actually be more restrictive as a global platform. Am I missing something here? Shouldn't LCs be able to thrive in any environment and in that case, accept regular fuel by default?
Of the 29 countries I’ve driven in the US has the lowest octane I’ve ever seen. In Europe most gas is 95 octane. I’m writing this from South Korea and filled up this afternoon. 93 was “regular.” I’ve been to every continent but Africa, and everyone has higher octane than we do. Shouldn’t be a problem.
you have to be a complete moron to believe that somehow a tacoma hybrid is ok with regular but the lc is not. anyone who tells you you need or want premium is lying to you.
I see 24-26 mpg driving on the freeway right after fill up and I can usually get a trip mostly on the freeway and up hill to my house once I exit of 20-22.2 mpg
The wind noise/vibration is coming from the outside A-Pillar, mid-windshield, behind the vertical black plastic cover piece... there is a vertical 2" gap for some crazy reason. I stuffed some 1/4" diameter tube foam from HD into the gap and the problem went away. The gap is on both sides of the windshield, but only seems to be an issue on the passenger side. Hope they do a real fix for it.
5100 miles, mostly mountains and curvy highways in northern Nevada and California, always in ECO mode, Falken Wildpeak AT4W, no passengers, removed air dams: 19.2 MPG
enjoying your experiences with the new vehicles! I'm building out my ol' 5gen 4runner! maybe in 3 years after they work out the issues, I'll be ready! thanks for your insight and experience!
Thanks for videos and information. I am considering the Land Cruiser. To your problem, I had an A-pillar trim wind noise issue with my Toyota Corolla years ago... temp fix was a toothpick jam in. RTV fixed is later.
If you keep using regular gas in that vehicle it will develop a ticking noise when you accelerate. But the good news its that it will take a long time to develop that problem. Since you only keep vehicles for a short period of time whoever buys this SUV from you will inherit that problem. I know because it happened to a Lexus sedan that I own.
You have to drive a hybrid differently than a normal non hybrid vehicle. I have a 05 Prius (best car I ever owned) that has an average of 46 mpg and typically I’m getting between 50 and 52 mpg. If you drive it like a hybrid you should actually get better gas milage. First of all you should add 5-7 PSI in your tires and use the pulse and lift method on the gas pedal, lay off the gas pedal and coast when you know you’re coming to a stop sign or red light. Do not mash the pedal down when leaving red lights etc. Get behind big 18 wheel trucks when you can on the highway to draft. There is a great video in “The car care nuts” RUclips page “How to get better gas Milage out of your Toyota and Lexus hybrids” i recommend watching it. He’s a Toyota Lexus mechanic he also has a video called “The 2024 Land Cruiser should you buy it” great in-depth video from a mechanic. I suggest checking them out. Love the Land Cruiser video updates! When you get with the engineers can you ask if the vehicle can be tuned to accept regular unleaded fuel like the Tacoma? And what will the long term issues be if you don’t run premium fuel in your Land Cruiser.
My wife drove my new LC and obtained 19.5 miles per gallon. Her trip included city driving and 80 miles an hour on the freeway. I drove a 120 combined miles of rural 40 and 50 mph, Freeway with limits of 60 & 70, and city driving. I obeyed the speed limit and averaged 27.5 miles per gallon. I also had the truck in Eco mode. I am delighted.
The only negatives I see with the LC so far is wish they had a B Mode (in addition to Eco, Normal, Sport) for steep downhills to engage the hybrid to slow the vehicle more (4cylinder has poor engine braking vs a v8 for icy downhills). I don't think using the trailer brake mode 5K+ does anything if not towing for downhills? Also going from 0 to 20 mph on a hill or getting on it accelerating takes some time for the turbo to spool up maybe and plus torque converter not designed tight so loud and buzzy I guess that's how designed? It has decent pep once hit 20 feels like.
big fan of Parrish. It definitely has blown up from when I moved there in 2018.Make sure if you're looking for actual property that you're not going to get the suburbs creeping up on you in just a few years. Lakewood Ranch has done that with moving east.
For sure. That was the plan but we found a property a little close to the city so if they creep to us hopefully the value skyrockets and we just sell. Move even further away lol
Our Land Cruiser also having a noise on the passenger side a pillar at high speeds and cross winds! Ours almost sounds like static from a speaker but I can confirm it definitely isn’t the speaker.
@@markclaypole1573ya that’s probably it. It’s the only thing in that area remotely “loose”. Maybe the weather strip? Tried poking around a bit but it’s pretty difficult to tell what it is for sure.
l’ve driven cars for 40 years and never had to use premium, not starting now. I save the high octane for the plane which is understandable due to altitude changes. I like the car but at that price I will not marry a high gas bill also. Don’t like it that much.
We got our heritage blue first edition (just like yours) about a week or two after yours and we must drive like maniacs. Using mid-grade fuel and averaging 17.3 mpg on interstate (78 mph) and balance on city streets (same). Not great mpg but we absolutely love how it drives. Maybe it will get better in time. We haven't taken it on any long trips yet. Stay tuned..........
The LC250/Prado may be a global product, but the only other region where they offer that hybrid powertrain is China. So why is premium fuel a requirement? Probably just to get slightly better power numbers.
91 octane is a cleaner running fuel from a top teir gas station, thats all I run in my vehicles for the last 25 years, no emission issues since the change in both of my vehicles, better gas mileage and performance as well.😊
Great video! I wonder if the windshield rattle is the same as the 5th gen 4Runners? There was a TSB for it, I think it was something with alignment pieces during manufacturing that stay in the truck. The fix was to remove them. How does rear seat storage compare to the 4Runner? I would’ve liked to seen you take everything for your trip with the land cruiser and move it to the 4Runner to see what that looks like. I am a Cavalry blue 4Runner owner too! Good luck with your prop search!
Just picked up an LC mid-grade on 20" wheels with the same paint scheme. On the A Pillar, did you check if the black separator between the roof and body color was loose at all? I tapped the ones in the D pillars and they made a sound like they weren't snug. Just a thought.
I had a similar noise with my 2023 Ford bronco. It was some of the black wire wrapping had come undone about 3 inches long and it was slapping inside the wheel well area.
I'm not that familiar with plug in car refrigerators, I'm curious how long you can leave this plugged in without running the car? Just curious for a long weekend camp trip how that would work. Any danger of running it down? Thinking that's a plus for the hybrid.
Jon. I hear the same thing on mine. Seriously i though it was just mine...same area and everything. Please let me know if you find anything out...i work for toyota so ill let you know if i hear anything on mine
I just passed passed literally like 10K miles on my FE. Regular gas and got 27.8 mpg highway @ 75mph. Once everything breaks in and loosens up it gets better. Your expectations are too high for noise from the wind on a Brick shaped Truck
I had the same issue with 2024 Tundra but on the drivers side. Turned out to be an issue with the side mirror. The dealership replaced that and the noise went away
LC or 4 runner are both excellent options. 4 runner will have more Trim levels and different price levels importantly the non hybrid turbo I4 is Also available
Glad you enjoyed your trip since you put so much blind faith and what’s in the owners manual regarding oil changes, I’m surely confident you followed to the letter of the law also the break and procedure lol!
I have the same noise on the passenger side mirror area. I thought it was from the little piece of plastic cladding that is in front of the mirror. As for gas, EVERYONE should join Costco. You make up for the cost of the membership with the savings on gas at their pumps alone. Premium 93 has ranged from 3.30 to 3.57 in East Central Florida. Lots of land out here. You should check out Flagler/Volusia counties. Also what tires are you running?
Cool to hear about the good 2400w inverter experience. I think a lot of variables could influence things, different directions, different fuel, different general temps or weather there and back perhaps. So was the overall average around like 21mpg for the trip then?
I was close to getting a new Land Cruiser but instead I opted for a 2024 RAV4 Prime XSE. I drive it like I stole it and still manage 60mpg. Until my 2012 GX460 fails I'll keep it in the stable. in the future I will still consider a newer Land Cruiser (Prado) platform.
Maybe unpopular thought but if one is cross shopping a body on frame suv with a unibody one, they should really go for the unibody one since since the comparison exists they don't have the needs for the body on frame nature for towing, off roading etc. They'd benefit from the better mpg and comfort
Just more opportunity for us in Tampa area man. More city activities too for locals vs tourism. Destin is good for sure. We will be up here often to check on our properties.
Thanks for the video! I am considering retiring my 2012 4runner for a new landcruiser. (I can finally afford one) Good to know that you can put regular fuel in it.
Having a noise from A-pillar passenger on FE LC as well. I was thinking it was door seal since it happens when I get by semis or gust of wind. Could be window as well, have t diagnosed yet since it’s hard for dealer to find. If it gets worse, I’ll have them look. They did fix door stricter noise on driver door that I thought was seat belt mount in B-pillar.
I’m hearing now after this video a ticking from the seat belt area too. What fixed that? Yea try to have somebody else drive it for you. It sounds like it is coming from the speaker area
@@TRDJon dealer took door card off etc and said they found striker just needed adjusted. Sound traveled up b-pillar so it was really hard for them to narrow down. Not sure what the actual adjustment was, but they just said striker adjusted. You can confirm this is it by putting pressure on door and it should stop.
I have exact same build and same wind noise from right A pillar. Happens with cross winds. I thought noise was coming from tweeter at first. Haven’t figured it out.
Highway MPG isn't really reflecting real world driving, my 4runner does 17L/100KM(14mpg) in daily city driving but hits at least 11L/100KM (23MPG) on long distance road trip and the most recent cross Canada 10000KM road trip it did 10.4L/100KM.
@@TRDJon It is hard to duplicate that at the dealer. I can gun it and go 80+ miles/hour... wont make that noise. BUT once you get some high wind gust, it comes right back on again. I will go to another dealer and keep you posted. Thanks Jon!
Great summary of your trip, thank for your sharing. I think the premium gas did make the difference in mileage on your return trip, although your speed obviously can make a difference too. I was wondering if you can verify that Toyota puts a weight limit in the back due to the battery pack...I have heard they recommend no more than 160 lbs on top of the battery pack in the back of the landcruiser. I understand there is a sticker located in the back end of the battery pack that recommends the weight limit. Thanks again for doing this video! In regards to that wind noise, it may be a weld issue within the frame on that side...I had a similar problem with a Toyota Camry many years ago..hopefully Toyota figures and fixes it promptly for you.
I hope they do too!!!! Thanks for the support and I’ll try to get a solid answer for you but yes I think it is direct weight they don’t want back there
Nice video. When you were describing the noise, the thing I thought of was maybe check that black separation piece between the heritage blue body and the white roof? Not seated all the way? Sure hope you figure it out.
Ss there a dog mode in your new LC? Can you leave AC running for 30-60minutes with car turned off? My Tesla has this but I want to get the new LC if it offers for my Husky. Thank you.
I averaged 19 MPG driving from New York to Florida in my 2017 GX460, lifted 2.5 inches, and on 275/65/17 General Grabber X3 mud terrains. Average speed was about 72 to 77 MPH.
@@TRDJon both ways I averaged the same. I drove the whole time minus 1 hour... and my dad has a heavier foot than me 😆. My MPG dropped a little when he took over.
That is strange about why the Land Cruiser requires premium since I kind of imagine people either buying them or driving them through less developed countries which I don’t think would have many gas stations and if they do good luck finding one with 93 octane. So I don’t really buy that too much, also with what happened with the FJ Cruiser first requiring premium and then letting it take regular normally after a few model years in. Also, the FJ Cruiser was sold in other markets too, so I don’t buy that excuse. So I think there is likely another reason. I thought it might be a production line thing, but then the new 4Runner is being made in the same factory, and I think Toyota may have a problem if they make the 4Runner require premium. So I’m not really sure why, but I guess we’ll see in a few years if they do the same thing and let it take regular.
@@tombrodzinski157 oh yes, I forgot that I guess that’s Toyota bypass so they don’t have to worry about countries that can’t get premium still I don’t like it. I would rather put regular in and save the money.
they were not built the same... some people will accept it and will deny it was still built tough, but remember these are brand new design from the ground up.
idiots buy premium and tell themselves it somehow does something different in the lc even though the identical setup exists in other models that run regular gas. no fat stupid corporate mouthpeice engineer can prove otherwise.
@@TRDJon I agree. We both noticed that after we bought Land Cruiser premium editions. I’ve owned a LX 570, LC300. They both had their little quirks… it’s strange, but the wind noise is only on the right side of this new land cruiser at speeds of 65 to 70 and above
@@TRDJon sorry for the stupid question but do you mean the gas motor needs to be running/idling or can it be the electric motor powering it in standby mode?
Jon stop fighting your destiny and embrace your miami fantasy. In all seriousness, love a property with lots of acreage. Remember, you can't make more land and less people.
@@TRDJon Cool - appreciate the insight. I love the fuel savings on the Land Cruiser, but everyone who has tried both keeps pointing at that V6. Imagine the Tundra iForce Max in the GX instead of the Land Cruiser's!
Had 5 Toyota trucks over time. 4Runners and tacomas. None of them got more than 19mpg. Ever. My Chevy 2500 HD was better at 21-22mpg. My raptor got 16mpg. Now my roush F150 supercharged 5.0 gets around 17mpg. Don’t understand how Toyota can’t get into the 25mpg range at least.
lolz you do realize that same exact engine/turbo is used in numerous vehicles in the usa with 87 octane requirement....use your head. nothing has changed except the name.
I’m getting 16-18 mpg on mixed driving. And I’m granny driving so far. Premium fuel. Forums show haves and have nots. Most get low 20’s. But a few of us get really bad mileage for no known reason. I’m concerned it’s a engine or computer issue
Premium gas = ECU advances the ignition timing = engine moves the truck more effortlessly at highway speeds = better MPG.
For sure way better then for sure!
Is this true for cars that specify 87 octane?
only works on landcrusier,but no other models with the same exact setup....that legacy name plate requires premium...lmao@stupidity.
@islandhopper100 A legend in his/her own mind, you talk foolishness WeedHopper100, keep popping your over sized mouth off and show others how st*pid you really are, the know it all of nothing. 🤣. Your Day-Pass has expired. 🤣 🤣
Just got my LC for about a week now and drove the first tank to empty. Total average was 23.2 MPG, about 65% highway 35% city. I noticed I was averaging like 26-27 MPG while cruising on the highway (I drive like a grandma, around 60MPH). Loving this thing so far!!
Nice!!!!!! Congrats
Are you loving pay 60 cents more for premium?? What a joke. My manual Gladiator get 20-21 on 87. And it was $30k cheaper.
Tank to empty?😂 good luck replacing that fuel pump later on
Did you use premium or regular gas?
@@jtomtl well not literally empty. Until the gas light went on. Pretty sure there’s about 10L in reserve after that.
Wanted to let you know that I appreciate all these videos about the land cruiser. Also, I appreciate that you mentioned that the CarPlay is working well. I’m always especially curious about the technology quality in these vehicles. Keep it up! I hope this ends up being the best rig you’ve ever ever had.
I do too! Thank you so much for the support!
I’ve little over 1000 miles on my mid grade with 20 inch wheels and I’ve been getting 25 mpg. But I also drive like a grandma.
Nice!!! Thats solid!
A REAL world vid...good deal...not just haters not wanting/liking the 4 cyl, and not just fan boy reviewers who walk around the vehicle and tell you how great it is without actually driving it.
It sucks to have a payment like this, but I like to own the vehicles I feel my audience would consider buying to give real world experience with them. I appreciate it!
I have 1958 base, premium and drive like a grandma with smaller tires. Coasts well and get 27.7. If I am freeway it’s about 22.6 and I am at about 8k miles already
Dude that’s way good!
Speed wrecks MPG on SUVs, especially brick shaped ones. I've had no issues getting over 20mpg in my 5th gen 4R or GX460 when keeping it around 70mph.
just shows how low his iq is....typical car salesman(thinking is done as a last resort). gee my wife drove near 80 and I drove 70...sooo hard to figure, it has to the premuim gas...what a clown.
Hey Jon, I just got my LC FE in Meteor Shower. Loving it. Similar but different from our 1999 Land Cruiser. Something for you to consider: you may want to keep better ventilation about the NiMh battery in the back end. You had your truck really packed tight, and that vent needs to be clear so you don’t heat up the hybrid battery. Just a thought. Dr. M
A big brick of an SUV is never going to get good gas milage at 75 mph. Most of the roads near me are 55 to 65 miles per hour.
That’s optimal for sure to get solid mpg. Yea. Massive brick through the air.
My case for using higher octane is: less stops at gas stations. Not concerned about the price of gas itself but all the snacks and drinks my family tends to buy in every fueling stop😅
So, in my state DE, you actually could get 24mpg doing the speed limit here(55 mph). If you're getting 23mpg driving 70mph, 24- 25mpg shouldn't even be an issue in my area.
Funny enough, I get a very similar noise on the highway from the lower A-pillar on my 5th Gen 4Runner, but the driver's side. Only appeared recently... when I had the windshield replaced.
Maybe it has to do with not enough seal then? Lemme know
That might be the splash guard (not sure of the actual part name) in the wheel well, which also annoys me. :)
I have such an old 5g 4Runner that I hesitate to say anything at 290k on my 2011…but it is 💯 true that I did not have a single sound from the dash, center stack, or a-pillars until I finally decided to replace the windshield. After a new windshield I have a squeak that I have never heard before from the center, just to the right of the driver side windshield wiper at rest.
Told ya brother. It's all in the tune for higher octane.
nonsense
Just like the toyota Crown Platinum model which is completely focused on Performance rather than savings, the New Landcruiser purpose is performance orientated.
HUGE fan of the 200 series Land Cruiser, despite never having owned one. I am fortunate enough to own an 8 cylinder truck of another make, and I LOVE the entire 8 cylinder, body on frame, driving experience.
Do not know whether it's true, but I have read that automakers moved from 8 cylinder, and now even 6 cylinder engines to hybrids and turbo 4's, less to do with mpg per se, than government mandated emissions standards. It seems to be true, because, if the 8 cylinder Land Cruiser was getting approximately 15 mpg on the highway, then a turbo 4 cylinder getting approximately 19 (or even 20 mpg) on the highway is not exactly something to brag about.
Just going off of what people type on RUclips, there seem to be plenty of people who would happily pay for the gas, if they could get their beloved 5.7 & 4.6 liter 8 cylinder engines back in (a brand new) their 200-series Land Cruiser's, LX 570's, GX 460's, Tundra's and Sequoia's.
The flip side is that, there are also plenty of people who barely care what type of powertrain is in their vehicle, as long as it has Apple Car Play and a heated steering wheel.
No sympathy for fuel mileage here.. Raptor.. 13 mpg in CA. 😎
I don't really get the argument of tuning the LC for premium gas making it better as a global platform. Basically they are increasing the gas requirement, which means it would actually be more restrictive as a global platform. Am I missing something here? Shouldn't LCs be able to thrive in any environment and in that case, accept regular fuel by default?
I honestly agree. Plus the US specs have different items to them anyways so why not just make it a US ecu too and call it a day.
Of the 29 countries I’ve driven in the US has the lowest octane I’ve ever seen. In Europe most gas is 95 octane. I’m writing this from South Korea and filled up this afternoon. 93 was “regular.” I’ve been to every continent but Africa, and everyone has higher octane than we do. Shouldn’t be a problem.
@@mack86523 The Octane rating systems are different.
you have to be a complete moron to believe that somehow a tacoma hybrid is ok with regular but the lc is not. anyone who tells you you need or want premium is lying to you.
2019 Tacoma TRD OR, PA to Palm Coast Fl 23mpg avg down and back. 87 octane, 70-75 mph.
Nice!!
I see 24-26 mpg driving on the freeway right after fill up and I can usually get a trip mostly on the freeway and up hill to my house once I exit of 20-22.2 mpg
Crazy that my 5th gen 4runner gets the same MPG as the hybrid 4cyl.
Yea that is considering Toyota rates it 5 mpg less
I guess I should say the hybrid 4cyl with regular unleaded. Interesting stuff!
The wind noise/vibration is coming from the outside A-Pillar, mid-windshield, behind the vertical black plastic cover piece... there is a vertical 2" gap for some crazy reason.
I stuffed some 1/4" diameter tube foam from HD into the gap and the problem went away. The gap is on both sides of the windshield, but only seems to be an issue on the passenger side. Hope they do a real fix for it.
I’ll look at that.
5100 miles, mostly mountains and curvy highways in northern Nevada and California, always in ECO mode, Falken Wildpeak AT4W, no passengers, removed air dams: 19.2 MPG
Try normal mode. Eco may be worse on the hwy
enjoying your experiences with the new vehicles! I'm building out my ol' 5gen 4runner! maybe in 3 years after they work out the issues, I'll be ready! thanks for your insight and experience!
For sure! Glad you enjoy it!
1200 miles on my 1958 and I’m averaging 20.7 mpg on premium fuel. Pretty great compared to my 23 4runner and way more enjoyable to drive
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for videos and information. I am considering the Land Cruiser. To your problem, I had an A-pillar trim wind noise issue with my Toyota Corolla years ago... temp fix was a toothpick jam in. RTV fixed is later.
If you keep using regular gas in that vehicle it will develop a ticking noise when you accelerate. But the good news its that it will take a long time to develop that problem. Since you only keep vehicles for a short period of time whoever buys this SUV from you will inherit that problem. I know because it happened to a Lexus sedan that I own.
You have to drive a hybrid differently than a normal non hybrid vehicle. I have a 05 Prius (best car I ever owned) that has an average of 46 mpg and typically I’m getting between 50 and 52 mpg. If you drive it like a hybrid you should actually get better gas milage. First of all you should add 5-7 PSI in your tires and use the pulse and lift method on the gas pedal, lay off the gas pedal and coast when you know you’re coming to a stop sign or red light. Do not mash the pedal down when leaving red lights etc. Get behind big 18 wheel trucks when you can on the highway to draft. There is a great video in “The car care nuts” RUclips page “How to get better gas Milage out of your Toyota and Lexus hybrids” i recommend watching it. He’s a Toyota Lexus mechanic he also has a video called “The 2024 Land Cruiser should you buy it” great in-depth video from a mechanic. I suggest checking them out. Love the Land Cruiser video updates! When you get with the engineers can you ask if the vehicle can be tuned to accept regular unleaded fuel like the Tacoma? And what will the long term issues be if you don’t run premium fuel in your Land Cruiser.
My wife drove my new LC and obtained 19.5 miles per gallon. Her trip included city driving and 80 miles an hour on the freeway. I drove a 120 combined miles of rural 40 and 50 mph, Freeway with limits of 60 & 70, and city driving. I obeyed the speed limit and averaged 27.5 miles per gallon. I also had the truck in Eco mode. I am delighted.
The only negatives I see with the LC so far is wish they had a B Mode (in addition to Eco, Normal, Sport) for steep downhills to engage the hybrid to slow the vehicle more (4cylinder has poor engine braking vs a v8 for icy downhills). I don't think using the trailer brake mode 5K+ does anything if not towing for downhills? Also going from 0 to 20 mph on a hill or getting on it accelerating takes some time for the turbo to spool up maybe and plus torque converter not designed tight so loud and buzzy I guess that's how designed? It has decent pep once hit 20 feels like.
big fan of Parrish. It definitely has blown up from when I moved there in 2018.Make sure if you're looking for actual property that you're not going to get the suburbs creeping up on you in just a few years. Lakewood Ranch has done that with moving east.
For sure. That was the plan but we found a property a little close to the city so if they creep to us hopefully the value skyrockets and we just sell. Move even further away lol
Our Land Cruiser also having a noise on the passenger side a pillar at high speeds and cross winds! Ours almost sounds like static from a speaker but I can confirm it definitely isn’t the speaker.
YES!!!! That’s what it sounds like!!!!
Almost sounds like maybe the cowl is vibrating?
@@markclaypole1573ya that’s probably it. It’s the only thing in that area remotely “loose”. Maybe the weather strip? Tried poking around a bit but it’s pretty difficult to tell what it is for sure.
Somebody commented too maybe it’s the black piece a little loose on the a pillar that separates the roof?
After filling up my 2023 Tacoma TRD OR V6 at Sam’s Club in Pearl City and driving home to Manoa I can get my display up to 24.6 mpg.
Nice!
Actually thanks, told me something I didn’t know and talked me out of getting one.
What’s that?
l’ve driven cars for 40 years and never had to use premium, not starting now. I save the high octane for the plane which is understandable due to altitude changes. I like the car but at that price I will not marry a high gas bill also. Don’t like it that much.
Gotcha
We got our heritage blue first edition (just like yours) about a week or two after yours and we must drive like maniacs. Using mid-grade fuel and averaging 17.3 mpg on interstate (78 mph) and balance on city streets (same). Not great mpg but we absolutely love how it drives. Maybe it will get better in time. We haven't taken it on any long trips yet. Stay tuned..........
2001 to 2023. Honda civic. Nissan Altima. Acura rdx. Lexus RX. I never had a car without some sort of rattles and wind noise. Always something.
The LC250/Prado may be a global product, but the only other region where they offer that hybrid powertrain is China. So why is premium fuel a requirement? Probably just to get slightly better power numbers.
91 octane is a cleaner running fuel from a top teir gas station, thats all I run in my vehicles for the last 25 years, no emission issues since the change in both of my vehicles, better gas mileage and performance as well.😊
IT HAS MORE 3,3,4-TRIMETHYLPENTANE WHICH IS THE MOLECULE THAT BRINGS MORE POWER.
don't forget that nitrogen in your tires too...lmao@ drinking the kool aid.
lolz foolishness
@@islandhopper100 Says who, You, Lol, the know it all of m*ntal m*dg*ts, lmao.
@islandhopper100 It is better to have people "think" you st*pid than to open your mouth and prove it as you just did lmao 🤣
Gum for the A pillar 😂
Cool content.
My wife has a heavy foot💨
Thanks Mike! hahaha
Great video! I wonder if the windshield rattle is the same as the 5th gen 4Runners? There was a TSB for it, I think it was something with alignment pieces during manufacturing that stay in the truck. The fix was to remove them.
How does rear seat storage compare to the 4Runner? I would’ve liked to seen you take everything for your trip with the land cruiser and move it to the 4Runner to see what that looks like. I am a Cavalry blue 4Runner owner too!
Good luck with your prop search!
i get 18, mostly in city with 93oct. sport mode 100% of the time
Having the same issue of low MPG numbers with my new
First Edition. 19-20 mpg on highway driving.
Just picked up an LC mid-grade on 20" wheels with the same paint scheme. On the A Pillar, did you check if the black separator between the roof and body color was loose at all? I tapped the ones in the D pillars and they made a sound like they weren't snug. Just a thought.
I will look! It sounds like it is coming from the bottom but I’ll check the top! Thanks!!!!!
I have the ticking by windshield on 24 4Runner too
That’s annoying
I had a similar noise with my 2023 Ford bronco. It was some of the black wire wrapping had come undone about 3 inches long and it was slapping inside the wheel well area.
Just drove round trip to San Diego going about 70-80 mph I did 18 mph..Im also running 285/70/18 Nitto Ridge grapplers
How heavy are they? Like load range?
@@TRDJon E
Oh that’s heavy
@@TRDJon yes they are...got a great deal on them..
You could always use a roof rack to save space.
True
The gr86 is a fantastic piece
I'm not that familiar with plug in car refrigerators, I'm curious how long you can leave this plugged in without running the car? Just curious for a long weekend camp trip how that would work. Any danger of running it down? Thinking that's a plus for the hybrid.
Please keep us updated if you figure out the windshield noise. I have a FE and have that same noise as well.
Guessing mpg will improve over first 10k miles.
Hope so
Jon. I hear the same thing on mine. Seriously i though it was just mine...same area and everything. Please let me know if you find anything out...i work for toyota so ill let you know if i hear anything on mine
Please Andrew let me know too! I will. Last thing I want is for the dealer to say they can’t duplicate or figure it out on a 70K vehicle.
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The synergy of using an overpriced car to see an overpriced property using overpriced gas is real.😂
lol
I just passed passed literally like 10K miles on my FE. Regular gas and got 27.8 mpg highway @ 75mph.
Once everything breaks in and loosens up it gets better. Your expectations are too high for noise from the wind on a Brick shaped Truck
Nice! And it isn't wind, I accept that, rather it is something loose sounding when the wind blows. Definitely not normal.
After 5K usually mileage will improve
Your wife's got a lead foot 😅 Hey Jon does that 2400 watt inverter plug need the engine to be on for it to work? Thanks for the great video!
Yes it unfortunately does.
I hope they offer the round lights on all trims next year.
Try ethanol-free fuel next time! I bet you'll get an another 2-3 MPG. CircleK has it at 90 octane.
Did I miss which you like best the 4Runner or the LC?
I had the same issue with 2024 Tundra but on the drivers side. Turned out to be an issue with the side mirror. The dealership replaced that and the noise went away
Land Cruiser or 4Runner 6th gen ? Help me pick Jon. Comfort and cool looks
Brother ima have to go with LC. It kills me to say that.
LC or 4 runner are both excellent options. 4 runner will have more Trim levels and different price levels importantly the non hybrid turbo I4 is Also available
Glad you enjoyed your trip since you put so much blind faith and what’s in the owners manual regarding oil changes, I’m surely confident you followed to the letter of the law also the break and procedure lol!
Not sure I understand this comment.
I have the same noise on the passenger side mirror area. I thought it was from the little piece of plastic cladding that is in front of the mirror. As for gas, EVERYONE should join Costco. You make up for the cost of the membership with the savings on gas at their pumps alone. Premium 93 has ranged from 3.30 to 3.57 in East Central Florida. Lots of land out here. You should check out Flagler/Volusia counties. Also what tires are you running?
I'll look it up, currently looking in East Manatee County. These are the stock Michelins.
From what I’ve heard you have to drive like you have a pre-cracked egg between your foot and the accelerator to get the rated mpg.
Could
Easily get it at 55mph, I think that’s where the get the rating from, I get 24 going like 65 or so
An old school LC 200 wouldn't have a noise issue like that even after 10yrs and 150K miles.
Cool to hear about the good 2400w inverter experience. I think a lot of variables could influence things, different directions, different fuel, different general temps or weather there and back perhaps. So was the overall average around like 21mpg for the trip then?
yes I would say like 21.5 or so ish. There was some idle time too in traffic I failed to mention and also waiting in the drivethru
@@TRDJon nice, not too bad at all for the general performance it had and the speeds you were travelling.
For sure and it was a tad stormy too here and there.
You’re in Destin? Had no idea, I’m in Freeport! Lmk of any 4x4 meet-ups, I’d love to tag along 😎
I avg 17.9 in my ‘16 LR4 @6000’ w/lots of city driving. 20mpg @sea level seems kinda low.
I was close to getting a new Land Cruiser but instead I opted for a 2024 RAV4 Prime XSE. I drive it like I stole it and still manage 60mpg. Until my 2012 GX460 fails I'll keep it in the stable. in the future I will still consider a newer Land Cruiser (Prado) platform.
Maybe unpopular thought but if one is cross shopping a body on frame suv with a unibody one, they should really go for the unibody one since since the comparison exists they don't have the needs for the body on frame nature for towing, off roading etc. They'd benefit from the better mpg and comfort
I’ve been alternating regular and premium tanks in my 1958 and consistently get about 2-3 mpg better using premium.
Oh wow! Good to know!
Can’t believe you guys want to move away from the Destin area
Just more opportunity for us in Tampa area man. More city activities too for locals vs tourism. Destin is good for sure. We will be up here often to check on our properties.
Thanks for the video! I am considering retiring my 2012 4runner for a new landcruiser. (I can finally afford one) Good to know that you can put regular fuel in it.
Having a noise from A-pillar passenger on FE LC as well. I was thinking it was door seal since it happens when I get by semis or gust of wind. Could be window as well, have t diagnosed yet since it’s hard for dealer to find. If it gets worse, I’ll have them look. They did fix door stricter noise on driver door that I thought was seat belt mount in B-pillar.
I’m hearing now after this video a ticking from the seat belt area too. What fixed that? Yea try to have somebody else drive it for you. It sounds like it is coming from the speaker area
@@TRDJon dealer took door card off etc and said they found striker just needed adjusted. Sound traveled up b-pillar so it was really hard for them to narrow down. Not sure what the actual adjustment was, but they just said striker adjusted. You can confirm this is it by putting pressure on door and it should stop.
Will do. I’ll try it. Thanks!
I have exact same build and same wind noise from right A pillar. Happens with cross winds. I thought noise was coming from tweeter at first. Haven’t figured it out.
Thanks for sharing! Let me know if you do and I will keep you all posted. Seems like there are several having this issue per my comments.
Highway MPG isn't really reflecting real world driving, my 4runner does 17L/100KM(14mpg) in daily city driving but hits at least 11L/100KM (23MPG) on long distance road trip and the most recent cross Canada 10000KM road trip it did 10.4L/100KM.
Hwy mpg is reflecting real world hwy driving.
My 19 TRD OR gets 19.4. I’m not sold yet
I got 23 with it at the end
I’m getting 21-22 with my 4R with cheaper gas. Probably a slight gas savings when considering the difference in price between regular and supreme.
I definitely start noticing that wind noise… I didn’t know if that’s something dealer can fix or not. Following this issue…
Lemme know too! I'll keep ya'll updated.
@@TRDJon It is hard to duplicate that at the dealer. I can gun it and go 80+ miles/hour... wont make that noise. BUT once you get some high wind gust, it comes right back on again. I will go to another dealer and keep you posted.
Thanks Jon!
Plz keep it stock so we know the issues are the vehicle and not the mods.
That 4Runner is epic. I'd keep that little monster....
For sure!
Great summary of your trip, thank for your sharing. I think the premium gas did make the difference in mileage on your return trip, although your speed obviously can make a difference too. I was wondering if you can verify that Toyota puts a weight limit in the back due to the battery pack...I have heard they recommend no more than 160 lbs on top of the battery pack in the back of the landcruiser. I understand there is a sticker located in the back end of the battery pack that recommends the weight limit. Thanks again for doing this video! In regards to that wind noise, it may be a weld issue within the frame on that side...I had a similar problem with a Toyota Camry many years ago..hopefully Toyota figures and fixes it promptly for you.
I hope they do too!!!! Thanks for the support and I’ll try to get a solid answer for you but yes I think it is direct weight they don’t want back there
Nice video. When you were describing the noise, the thing I thought of was maybe check that black separation piece between the heritage blue body and the white roof? Not seated all the way? Sure hope you figure it out.
I’ll have to look there. It sounds like it is coming for the bottom though. But I will look.
Ss there a dog mode in your new LC? Can you leave AC running for 30-60minutes with car turned off? My Tesla has this but I want to get the new LC if it offers for my Husky. Thank you.
I averaged 19 MPG driving from New York to Florida in my 2017 GX460, lifted 2.5 inches, and on 275/65/17 General Grabber X3 mud terrains. Average speed was about 72 to 77 MPH.
What was it on the return trip?
@@TRDJon both ways I averaged the same. I drove the whole time minus 1 hour... and my dad has a heavier foot than me 😆. My MPG dropped a little when he took over.
@@TRDJon I am in Florida if you want to do a comparison video with the Lexus or our 2024 TRD PRO Sequoia (in magnetic gray) Just let me know.
That is strange about why the Land Cruiser requires premium since I kind of imagine people either buying them or driving them through less developed countries which I don’t think would have many gas stations and if they do good luck finding one with 93 octane. So I don’t really buy that too much, also with what happened with the FJ Cruiser first requiring premium and then letting it take regular normally after a few model years in. Also, the FJ Cruiser was sold in other markets too, so I don’t buy that excuse. So I think there is likely another reason. I thought it might be a production line thing, but then the new 4Runner is being made in the same factory, and I think Toyota may have a problem if they make the 4Runner require premium. So I’m not really sure why, but I guess we’ll see in a few years if they do the same thing and let it take regular.
Other markets get the diesel engine.
@@tombrodzinski157 oh yes, I forgot that I guess that’s Toyota bypass so they don’t have to worry about countries that can’t get premium still I don’t like it. I would rather put regular in and save the money.
Maybe it was a corporate answer? I honestly have no idea brotha
@@TRDJon that is what my guess is
It’s not a real Land Cruiser that’s why
Man, you were able to pack a lot of gear in the back.
I was pretty surprised.
Getting around 19.7 on my Grand Highlander daily
Hybrid Max?
@@TRDJon regular 4cyl didn’t want the hybrid
they were not built the same... some people will accept it and will deny it was still built tough, but remember these are brand new design from the ground up.
How come you ran regular when it calls for premium? Where there any issues running regular?
No issues with it at all.
idiots buy premium and tell themselves it somehow does something different in the lc even though the identical setup exists in other models that run regular gas. no fat stupid corporate mouthpeice engineer can prove otherwise.
Probably unfavorable winds on the way to the Tampa Bay area.
Very high chance for sure
Right A pillar i get that same noise.. so does my moms.
We need to find out what the heck it is.
@@TRDJon I agree. We both noticed that after we bought Land Cruiser premium editions. I’ve owned a LX 570, LC300. They both had their little quirks… it’s strange, but the wind noise is only on the right side of this new land cruiser at speeds of 65 to 70 and above
Keep me posted bro and I will for ya'll as well. I'm seeing multiple comments about this here in this video.
@@TRDJon will do bro!
Does the inverter stay on and power the fridge the entire time (even when the car is shut off)?
Unfortunately the engine has to be on.
@@TRDJon sorry for the stupid question but do you mean the gas motor needs to be running/idling or can it be the electric motor powering it in standby mode?
I haven’t tried it in just accessory mode. But I believe the actual engine needs to be running.
Jon stop fighting your destiny and embrace your miami fantasy. In all seriousness, love a property with lots of acreage. Remember, you can't make more land and less people.
Oh I know brother. Always the goal in the future. But they just had it way way too high based on comps in the area.
Get a prius bro, they get better MPG
Nahhhh. Not that desperate
I’ll wait a few years for Toyota to work out the kinks. Thanks for the review.
@@davidwelty9763 Always!
how do you like that turbo-4 hybrid powertrain versus the twin turbo in the GX 550?
Good for sure but prefer the V6 of the GX
@@TRDJon Cool - appreciate the insight. I love the fuel savings on the Land Cruiser, but everyone who has tried both keeps pointing at that V6. Imagine the Tundra iForce Max in the GX instead of the Land Cruiser's!
Does the LC or 4Runner feel like it has more space?
Always burm Premium gas
Had 5 Toyota trucks over time. 4Runners and tacomas. None of them got more than 19mpg. Ever. My Chevy 2500 HD was better at 21-22mpg. My raptor got 16mpg. Now my roush F150 supercharged 5.0 gets around 17mpg. Don’t understand how Toyota can’t get into the 25mpg range at least.
Yet they can crush the mpg game with all their cars lol. Trucks, naaaaaahhhh
Cruise control kills the fuel economy on my 4runner
Yea on the newer vehicles I’ve noticed it doesn’t really
But on my 4R it does
We have a lot of hills and elevation changes. With the adaptive cruise control, it's either on the gas or on the brake. Mine is 2021
Are you concerned at all about the warranty issues not using 91 octane could cause? I only ask because it is specifically addressed in the manual.
No. Toyota pulls timing. It isn't an issue at all
@@TRDJon Until it is.
Well that’s everything it life
lolz you do realize that same exact engine/turbo is used in numerous vehicles in the usa with 87 octane requirement....use your head. nothing has changed except the name.
Jon, do your resesrch on flood areas in florida "before" buying. Alot of flood plains. In that state.
Always. We have several properties in the state. This house was actually on 130’ of elevation! Haha
@@TRDJon 130' is peanuts in the hurricane flood plain belt Jon, 300'+ would be my minium limit if it's possible down there.
Definitely isn’t there. Storm surge is usually 20’ at max
@@TRDJon OK, Flat Lands is so foreign to me. I live and work (drive/fly) in the mountainous regions. 😀
I’m getting 16-18 mpg on mixed driving. And I’m granny driving so far. Premium fuel. Forums show haves and have nots. Most get low 20’s. But a few of us get really bad mileage for no known reason. I’m concerned it’s a engine or computer issue
I'm getting the same mpg as you and I've driven it for 870 miles so far.
I'm pulling 18-19 MPG in my 22 Armada with a 5.6 Liter V8 😂
Dude I have no idea what the heck she was doing lol