I don't really comment on anything, but I just would like to say this is the best channel I have had the opportunity to see on youtube. Love your content and I hope you never stop uploading, even if you need to change topics.
You and Sean should do a "Civilization Draft" Like, you each pick a region and then out of a pool of 200 known historical figures you take turns drafting for your respective empires
@@ThersitestheHistorian An Ocean Cruise ship from 2017 goes back in time to 321 BCE Two years after Alexander died, the Diadochi Wars Needless to say history changes a lot just in the first book alone. Three books so far. Sicilian Coil, third book, deals with Italy, Carthage and Egypt
Man I love discussion classes in university but there's something about a simple slide show recording of a lecture that is so amazing, maybe because I can play games at the same time and generally makes me feel like I ingest knowledge better. Keep posting these, from a history undergrad that doesn't get any real classical classes due to the size of uni. (Generally besides overview of era for the base classes they are generally medieval, and early modern.)
Everything that we know about him is from when he was 75 years old, so it is just a case of an old man becoming a surprisingly solid general for a very short period of time before being undermined by his incompetent colleague.
Thanks for regularly bringing a university level discussion to the masses Thersites, it's very much appreciated by us plebs. You act in the spirit of the Gracchi. Any chance of you and Sean (I know he has feelings about 'Gladiator') doing discussion or tier ranking of Classical Movies? They don't all have to be "classic" movies (Ben Hur, Spartacus), but I'm sure you have some choice words for flicks like Troy, Alexander, 300, The Life of Brian, or The Eagle.
It what era is going against the status quo not potential deadly? We certainly haven't reached that stage yet. Yet some modern folk will wag their finger when revolutionaries are "too violent against the elites 😭😖😣😩😫" 🥱 Violence against bumhole elites is never the answer. It's the question. The answer is yes.
Your closing remarks are very depressing as things have changed little today, albeit thorough character assassination in the West preempts the need for murder later.
Thersites, if you could go back in time to Ancient Rome, or Medieval Byzantium, I know you'd be able to become Emperor within a few years. Especially if you took an AR back with you, "Jupiter's Cock" you could call it, what reforms would you establish to preserve the Empire? Conquer Arabia? Establish an industrial Revolution?
I'm not sure. The best time for an ancient industrial revolution would have been either during the Hellenistic period, which was the ancient age of invention, or during the early empire when the economy and population were growing and Rome was secure against external threats for the time being. That could make for an interesting historical novel, however.
@@ThersitestheHistorian kind of been a curiosity of mine since my new atheist days listening to Richard Carrier. His one lasting impact on my mind was the idea of industry in antiquity. He talked about it often, but you gave a better take in one paragraph than I ever heard him deliver. Thank you for liberating the last bit of Richard Carrier from my mind.
Cicero seems to state that it was more difficult for a patrician to get elected to the Consulship than it was for a plebeian. In de domo sua 37 one can read: "Do but once sanction this form of adoption, and you will find in a very short while that all family religion, for the protection of which you are responsible, will die out, and not a patrician will be left. For why should a man acquiesce in his ineligibility to election as tribune of the plebs, in limited chances of successful candidature for the consulship, and in his inability, owing to the fact that such a position is not open to patrician, to be appointed to a priesthood, when he has a possibilty of removing that inability?" (The Loeb classical Library, Vol. 11) What do you make of his remark? Thank you for your videos about these different Roman Statesmen!
He was clearly speaking about Clodius here and his decision to opt for the powers of the Tribune, which was the main perk of being a plebeian, instead of the advantages that came from being a patrician. After the example of the Gracchi and the subsequent failure of the Sullan restrictions on the office of tribune, it did seem like a viable vehicle of political power and someone who could use it well could join a governing coalition as a powerful member. Clodius' action horrified traditionalists because he was eschewing hundreds of years of his heritage to side with the people because he thought that it would give him a better path to power. In the event, he managed to do quite well as tribune, but ultimately did not have a proper army, although he could have acquired one in time as both he and Milo, who were mostly known as tribunes, were actually rising through the cursus honorum and were not just seeking consecutive terms as tribunes. It is hard to say what would have happened if he hadn't been murdered, but my suspicion is that he would have joined Caesar and his influence would have waned during the civil wars since he didn't have the military experience needed to really contribute. I don't know if the Optimates would have accepted him given their past history or if his followers would have gone along with such a move. If not for the civil war, however, perhaps he could have attained the consulship and more.
I don't really comment on anything, but I just would like to say this is the best channel I have had the opportunity to see on youtube. Love your content and I hope you never stop uploading, even if you need to change topics.
Seconding this! This channel has been a delight to stumble upon
I agree
Thank you again for another excellent video. Keep up the great work!
Thanks alot, listening to these gets me through work erryday. Love it!
You and Sean should do a "Civilization Draft" Like, you each pick a region and then out of a pool of 200 known historical figures you take turns drafting for your respective empires
That could be interesting.
+1
What do you think of Eric Flint's Alexander Inheritance series?
@@christiandauz3742 I have never heard of it.
@@ThersitestheHistorian
An Ocean Cruise ship from 2017 goes back in time to 321 BCE
Two years after Alexander died, the Diadochi Wars
Needless to say history changes a lot just in the first book alone. Three books so far.
Sicilian Coil, third book, deals with Italy, Carthage and Egypt
Man I love discussion classes in university but there's something about a simple slide show recording of a lecture that is so amazing, maybe because I can play games at the same time and generally makes me feel like I ingest knowledge better. Keep posting these, from a history undergrad that doesn't get any real classical classes due to the size of uni. (Generally besides overview of era for the base classes they are generally medieval, and early modern.)
Thank You!
Great video.
I love the Gracchi brothers. Champions of the people.
Will we ever get "The Life And Times of Pupienus Maximum", warts and all??
Everything that we know about him is from when he was 75 years old, so it is just a case of an old man becoming a surprisingly solid general for a very short period of time before being undermined by his incompetent colleague.
Hail, Thersites!
Thanks for regularly bringing a university level discussion to the masses Thersites, it's very much appreciated by us plebs. You act in the spirit of the Gracchi.
Any chance of you and Sean (I know he has feelings about 'Gladiator') doing discussion or tier ranking of Classical Movies? They don't all have to be "classic" movies (Ben Hur, Spartacus), but I'm sure you have some choice words for flicks like Troy, Alexander, 300, The Life of Brian, or The Eagle.
Perhaps. I haven't seen a number of those movies in some time, but I did watch Gladiator again not too long ago.
Buying a better microphone is a worthwhile investment
weird
I hear it fine
Thersites recently upgraded his mic.
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For real 100k subs. Shit sure if you set up a go fund me or something we could all throw on a few quid
Could you make tierlist on German generals of the franco-prussian war
Nice.
Sound quality has got worse recently. I don’t know if it is the equipment or the room.
i play instrumental music behind thersites videos so it sounds like he sings me history
The quae in quaestor is pronounced kinda like “que” in spanish.
I am curious as to which "Publius " the Federalist took there name from. Laenus or Sulla and why?🤔😉😏
We need to get the Professor a new 🎙.
It what era is going against the status quo not potential deadly? We certainly haven't reached that stage yet. Yet some modern folk will wag their finger when revolutionaries are "too violent against the elites 😭😖😣😩😫" 🥱
Violence against bumhole elites is never the answer. It's the question. The answer is yes.
Nice use of the word aplomb
Your closing remarks are very depressing as things have changed little today, albeit thorough character assassination in the West preempts the need for murder later.
👍
Thersites, if you could go back in time to Ancient Rome, or Medieval Byzantium, I know you'd be able to become Emperor within a few years. Especially if you took an AR back with you, "Jupiter's Cock" you could call it, what reforms would you establish to preserve the Empire?
Conquer Arabia?
Establish an industrial Revolution?
I'm not sure. The best time for an ancient industrial revolution would have been either during the Hellenistic period, which was the ancient age of invention, or during the early empire when the economy and population were growing and Rome was secure against external threats for the time being. That could make for an interesting historical novel, however.
@@ThersitestheHistorian kind of been a curiosity of mine since my new atheist days listening to Richard Carrier. His one lasting impact on my mind was the idea of industry in antiquity.
He talked about it often, but you gave a better take in one paragraph than I ever heard him deliver. Thank you for liberating the last bit of Richard Carrier from my mind.
Cicero seems to state that it was more difficult for a patrician to get elected to the Consulship than it was for a plebeian. In de domo sua 37 one can read:
"Do but once sanction this form of adoption, and you will find in a very short while that all family religion, for the protection of which you are responsible,
will die out, and not a patrician will be left. For why should a man acquiesce in his ineligibility to election as tribune of the plebs,
in limited chances of successful candidature for the consulship, and in his inability, owing to the fact that such a position is not open to patrician,
to be appointed to a priesthood, when he has a possibilty of removing that inability?" (The Loeb classical Library, Vol. 11)
What do you make of his remark? Thank you for your videos about these different Roman Statesmen!
He was clearly speaking about Clodius here and his decision to opt for the powers of the Tribune, which was the main perk of being a plebeian, instead of the advantages that came from being a patrician. After the example of the Gracchi and the subsequent failure of the Sullan restrictions on the office of tribune, it did seem like a viable vehicle of political power and someone who could use it well could join a governing coalition as a powerful member. Clodius' action horrified traditionalists because he was eschewing hundreds of years of his heritage to side with the people because he thought that it would give him a better path to power. In the event, he managed to do quite well as tribune, but ultimately did not have a proper army, although he could have acquired one in time as both he and Milo, who were mostly known as tribunes, were actually rising through the cursus honorum and were not just seeking consecutive terms as tribunes. It is hard to say what would have happened if he hadn't been murdered, but my suspicion is that he would have joined Caesar and his influence would have waned during the civil wars since he didn't have the military experience needed to really contribute. I don't know if the Optimates would have accepted him given their past history or if his followers would have gone along with such a move. If not for the civil war, however, perhaps he could have attained the consulship and more.
@@ThersitestheHistorian Thank you very much for your answer!