Vault Hub Replacement
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Removing my old Vault hubs and replacing them with new bearings and Vault caps.
It is a good idea to get extra O rings and inner seals. Also keep your old caps as spare for roadside help incase one pops off.
**I now recommend using GREEN LOCTITE-609 on the Vault Caps instead of BLUE LOCTITE. This will drastically reduce losing a cap from vibration or large pot holes**
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Bearings, races, inner seal, cotter key. X4 for a Tandem Axle Trailer
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O ring for inside vault cap. X4 for a Tandem Axle.
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Hybrid Oil. I got 3 tubes, used 1.5 for a Tandem Axle.
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Vault Caps. X4 for a Tandem Axle
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Links for parts used in this video are listed in the video description.
What is the part number for the inner seals. Could not find the link for the seal numbers
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(1) spring-loaded double lip grease seal (168255TB)
I have the 2.328 inner bore hub. I woud absolutely not reuse the hub covers. When I got the new ones I thought they were too big because I could not get them in, gave up and put the old ones back. They went in too easy and I started to think about Dexter saying they are one-time use. I measured the old vs new outter diameter and they were different by a few c-hairs. Decide to try again, this time filled the cap with oil and put it in the freezer for 90 minutes. Went on way easier and is a very tight fit. Not getting stuck on the side of the road is worth the price of new hubs. Been 7 years with no issues.
@@SANTACRUZDRONES new is ideal. With the 1.98 you can also put them on a 2” hitch ball and flare the ends just a touch to make them super tight in a pinch
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience That is a great idea. Thanks for the info.
Lol. My boat dealer made it sound like these hubs were some kind of great technology that didn't needed servicing for 90,000 miles. They're just like any other hub I've reworked smh. Thanks for the video.
They are WAY better in my opinion. no maintenance for 5 years minimum. Mine are 10 years and running no problem. On my previous trailer I had to grease them every 2 months
Perfect!!!! This video was amazing! *2013 BoatMate trailer with vault bearings. *Grease fitting size for my trailer was 1/4”. I would recommend to have a variety pack readily available, since my instructions called for 1/8” which wasn’t the case.
Nice Job as I could not figure out how to remove the Vault Hub cap. Was afraid to break it. I pounded hard and it did not come off. I know now that it may have a seal to break. The rest, I know from your video. Thanks!!!!
Thanks for making this video! I was not feeling confident with replacing my vault hubs using the instructions from UFP but this helps a lot.
No I was referring to the wear sleeve the inner seal rests on
Awesome video! Which grease are you using? The special stuff that vault provides or just regular grease?
@@bogotstogoskiing vault hybrid. You can use a regular grease if you’re in a pinch. But if you want regular grease I’d recommend the old school grease caps with a cover or bearing buddies.
Great instructions video. I’m doing the same thing now. One suggestion is that it is not necessary to change the racer.
Excellent video, very clearly communicated. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. One question at the end when you're pounding the cap back on with the block of wood, how can the black "button' extend out past the cap a little bit if the block of wood is on it and you're hitting it?
You have to have the pvc reducer underneath the block of wood. That gives the cap room to push out.
Just watched it again and saw that you used it again. Thanks
Thank you ,the races go into the hub flat side down?
Yes, tapered sides out so the bearings can go in on each side of the hub
Great video. I just replaced my hub watching your video. One question. One question about the o ring on the outside of hub. The one that came with the replacement kit doesn't seem to fit correctly. It seems too small. Half of the ring slides in, but the other half lays out of the groove. Will it slide into place when I pound the cap on? Thanks again.
That's all you can try if it seems to small for the opening. Did you get the hub kit from UFP/Dexter?
I finally got the other O rings out. I used the sharp point of an old steak knife. They came out fairly easy. Getting a new one back in was pretty easy too. I took my time and was real careful. I would highly recommend doing this when temperatures are cool. Like maybe 50 degrees F. It was about 90 this morning when I quit and the grease just gets too liquefied. I'll finish the last one tomorrow morning when it's cooler.
azcharlie2009 you need a better grease if it's liquefying at 90F.
@@slalomking I understand what you're saying, but that's not how this system works. The grease used is a hybrid grease, that is designed to liquefy as the temperature increases. Oil is actually a better lubricant than grease, if you can get it to stay in the bearing. If you look at big eighteen wheeler trucks, they have oil lubricated bearings. I did all four axles and pulled the boat from Tucson to Lake Powell and back in over 100 degree temperatures. No problems....
AZ my dealer actually told me to put my grease in the refrigerator overnight and do this when it’s cool outside so your right on saying this stuff gets runny when warm 👍
@@glenndaugherity6187 great tip
I learned some things but I would watch a video on how to pack bearings with grease. Also, does the cap comes off a to expose a grease fitting under there so that you can fill the bearing buddy?
Not much of a need to pack the bearings since the grease comes from the back of the hub when filling. The cap only comes off as a whole, you can then screw in the grease fitting and pump it full.
Did you reuse the spindle washer? Or did you replace it? Would it be okay to reuse the same washer?
I reused it. Nothing wrong with reusing any of the components if they don’t show any signs of wear.
Hello,so i could pre do everything leading up to the flat washer and castle nut,with a emergency hub pre ready to go?
Yes you could have one ready to rock in case of an emergency
I don't see any leaking grease on either side of the hubs on my 2014 boatmate, but on some hubs the black center cup is not out as far as it is on others. Is it recommended to pop these caps off and refill them as shown or should I replace the bearings at this point?
Pop the old caps off, and buy new ones. While you’re in there pump new grease in through the spindle so it’s fresh. Should be good to for for a while then. The caps are intended to be a “one time use” but that’s not always the case. If you order new ones, keep the old ones for spares on road trips.
Do you use any kind of solvent or cleaner on the brake rotor before the caliper goes back on?
Brake cleaner if you ended up with grease or something on it
I do my garage work in safety flip flops also
Extremely helpful video. Thanks a lot
I have 2016 Phoenix with the marine master trailer. I would think these would be the same parts??? I’m looking to redo mine. Do you know if they the same?
I have the links to the parts in the description, I would think they would be the same.
Dude, you need to learn how to pack bearings. If that didn't fail it was because adding grease in the fitting saved you. Also, I didn't get the pounding on the hub cap then the vault center is sticking out, how did that work? And, maybe tighten bearings, spin, then adjust bearing end play?
Packed them for years by hand. Didn’t show the entire process because it’s tedious. Having the center zerk also pushes it through the bearings to help fill any voids. Putting the pvc cap on the hub when putting it on allows the center to expand and have positive pressure like they’re designed to do. Probably over 10k miles on my trailer since I made this with 16 hour straight road trips and bearings have never even been warm.
Is it required to remove the grease fitting after filling? Why can't the original Vault caps be used? I'm getting ready to redo a couple of mine.
You'll want to remove the grease fitting so it doesn't interfere with the black cap that protrudes. Vault recommends not re using the original caps because there is a chance they will not fit as tightly. I think that is mostly toward the claim of being maintenance free for "X Years/Miles". I went ahead and got all new caps, but keep my old ones in the toolbox on my truck for roadside emergencies.
What type of grease do these hubs take? I read it’s a hybrid oil/grease? Do you use a Vault branded grease or is there something more readily available that works the same?
You will want to use the vault brand, which is a hybrid grease/oil. If you want to use a regular style grease, such as Lucas Red & Tacky, or their marine version, I would recommend bearing buddies.
Did you put the oring back in and the grease zert ?
O-ring yes, grease zert no. Definitely take that out. If it got unthreaded and loose in there that could become wedged and cause a catastrophic failure resulting in you probably needing a new axle.
Thank you it make perfect sense
Do you have to take the hub off to replace the O ring? The Vault directions say to useLoctite, but not red or blue. Pacific Trailers says to use RTV Silicone gasket maker. WTF? I've read elsewhere that it should be red Loctite. My fitting was also 1/4 inch.
You only have to take the cap off to replace the O ring. RTV Silicone Gasket Maker on the rear seal. I used blue loctite on the cap, per their instructions. No issues with over 3K miles on them since replacing.
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience I sure couldn't get it out. I couldn't even find it! So, I just left it. How would you suggest removing it without damaging something? A sharp knife or pick? Does the nut have to come off? I have the O rings, but I've never seen how to remove the old ones. My trailer bearings probably only have a few thousand miles on them but they're ten years old. I did one bearing yesterday in 103 degree Tucson temps. Everything was turning to liquid!
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience On the instructions they tell you to Apply “Loctite”
retaining compound to shoulder of
protector. Not red Loctite which is a thread locker not retaining compound. There is a difference .
Where did you get your bearing protector cap ?
Link is in the description, or they may be on Amazon
Thanks
Very good job. Good video.
How down you remove the wear sleeve if you have to replace it ?
The bearing races? Punch them out with a softer metal (brass) or use a press to get them out if you have that available
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience No, he's asking about the wear sleeve on the actual spindle.
good info, thanks
great stuff!!! thank you
Do you have a link of the bearing kit used?
I put it in the description for you.
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience thanks man. Just tore mine apart last night and need to get parts in order 👍🏼
I just checked, no part number in the description
@@lfcskater Worked for you now? You were quick haha
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience it’s there now! Thanks haha
The spring loaded bearing protectors with exterior grease nipple are a better system imo (easier to maintain), I didn't use these sealed "vault" protectors that come with the UFP kit
Bearing Buddies are a great option as well. I replaced oil bath hubs on my old boat and used them for 5-6 years with thousands of miles trouble free.
But then when you need to change them again it makes a mess
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience Just curious, I have an older set of vaults on my boat trailer that I want to service. Thinking about converting to bearing buddy caps but stick with the current hub and bearings. Is this possible using the same hub and spindle? I have the 1.980” vault system. Thanks for any help.
@@JMFishing Yes you can use the 1.98” bearing buddy caps. With the bearing buddies I would take out all of the vault hybrid grease and replace it with Lucas marine grease or red and tacky. I personally would hand pack the bearings and finish it off with the the grease zerk in the spindle.
@@MidwestOutdoorExperience Thanks for your help. I will do that. One last thing, am I ok to leave the current seals in? They arent leaking or anything.
Nice job god bless
This is not as effective as Bearing Buddies, no way to add more grease or pressurize the vault cap without taking it off every time. BB you shoot in grease which keeps the hub pressured at 3 psi so no water can enter.
Bryan B In my experience the vault caps keep pressure for much longer than BB. With that said they’re both good, and I’ve trailered 10s of thousands of miles with both set ups.
Like si veniste a jalartela.