Pope to Anglican clergy: “Our imperfect communion shouldn't prevent us from walking together”
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- There are still roadblocks that prevent a unification between the Catholic and Anglican churches. But, following Vatican II, Pope Paul VI and the Archbisop of Canterbury made an agreement to “serious dialogue.”
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The ordination of women was a step which set back unity a very long way
The thing that gets me about that is Catholics believe the reason women should not be Church leaders in because they should be in the image of Jesus Christ and as Jesus Christ was a man, Priests and Church clergy should be men. This is putting Priests who sin just like the rest of us on a level with Jesus who did not sin. They believe these Priests should be worshipped. They are not Jesus and shouldn't be "leaders" as they see it. They should be like tour guides for thr gospel 🙏✝️ Trying to equate men to Jesus is wrong and can you imagine saying because Jesus was not white, no white man can be a Preist? That is the logic.
The other reason I have heard is when they use the Bible verse about "women submitting to their husbands" which is completely different to preaching the gospel. They also use the verse about being quiete in Church but again that isn't about preaching the gospel, it is about bad behaviours within the Church.
If God didn't want female Church Clergy, he wouldn't of sent me to a Church with female Clergy. 🙏✝️
@@lukemurray4950 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. - 1 Timothy 2:12
@@lukemurray4950 Nobody worships priests, every lesson regarding Catholic is sure to acknowledge the fact that the priest is merely an avatar or a medium of the work of God. Everyone is, everything is, that's how it works. Don't make things up and sully a great belief just because of your shortsightedness.
You are also the reason why we are taught that the Holy Spirit merely pushes and guides us towards righteousness, choosing to follow that path requires our consciousness and willingness. Humans are created with freewill, it is what mainly distinguishes us from other creations. Not everything you chose is right, keep that in mind. By making a statement that "He wouldn't of sent me to a church with female clergy" that means you liken yourself to be a near-perfect being always making correct judgement and can see through the view of God which in itself is wrong.
@@Sabxrnz So for starters, you do admit to worshipping humans in the form of Mary, Saints and the Pope? Am I right in saying that? The reason I say you worship the Priest is because you confess your sins to a Priest to be forgiven, you see a Priest as a near perfect living embodiment of Christ and this is evident in the fact that the Church refuses to hold the sinful abusive crimes of Priests to account to this day. If I have it wrong please forgive me but all I see is this pattern of human worship among Catholics.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I fully understand I have free will and I could of ignored what God called me to do through his Holy Spirit. But it was the Holy Spirit who told me to go to that specific Church, not any Church, but that one. It was my free will to listen to that or not. That is what free will is. Weather you listen to the command of God or not. So maybe you can explain how when God came to this sinner and Atheist, why would he tell me to go to a Church with a female Clergy? Honestly, can you explain that to me? Again I had the free will to ignore him, go to another Church or just continue being an Atheist but out of free will I decided to follow his commands.
Also how do I liken myself to a near perfect human? That makes no sense, I am sinner and was a broken human destine for hell. Until I was saved my the one true God who came to me in the form of the Holy Spirit to bring to the realization that my only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ who died for my sins. It's Catholics who believe in near perfect human beings as in Saints, Mary and the Pope. And yes I will add Priests to that too because if that wasn't the case the Church would hold them to account for such sinful actions they commit.
I am happy to be corrected but I just don't see it at the moment.
@@davidtrident And this is the deep down of the problem I have with the Catholic belief. The female Clergy at my Church have no authority over me as a man. They are simply my guides to the Gospel, the word of God and to the son for which my salvation and way to the Father comes 🙏✝️
In Catholicism, The Pope is an authority figure and has authority over Catholics. Just as Priests do. The only authority over me, is the One True God. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. 🙏✝️
Also if you read the scripture verse I mentioned in my top comment, you will understand what is meant. God is not talking about preaching or being part of the Clergy, simply women in Church who act in an improper manor and go against their husbands. I will read more of 1 Timothy to try to gain more understanding but I would suggest you do the same in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.
I will also extend my question to you as I did the other person. When God came to this former Atheist in the form of his Holy Spirit and told me the exact Church he wanted me to go to, why would he send me to a Church with a female Clergy?
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We pray that there should be and BE, just ONE Church Holy, Catholic and APOSTOLIC.
SO BE. IT...AMEN ❤
Anglicans believe that is what we already have. We are very happy to be brothers to our fellow Christians. Your denomination does not matter to us
@@hesedagape6122you are a gross ignorant
You don’t need to pray because there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH. Protestant’s belong to 48,000 protestant CULTS. Please read my comment.
@@hesedagape6122denomination’s DON’T EXIST. There’s ONLY ONE CHURCH the holy Catholic Church that’s it. Protestant’s belong to 48,000 protestant CULTS.
@@hesedagape6122we are all brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ. We can exist in love between ourselves.
Ultimately this I understand as a Catholic.
Anglicans are just as committed to upholding the teachings they believe in as I am mine. They are just as deeply prayerful and interested in a personal encounter with Jesus Christ.
Through dialogue and respectful listening and learning from each other, perhaps we can achieve coexistence sacramentally one day.
God bless you 🙏🫂
Prayers for Pope Francis ❤
Prayers for Francis conversion back to the Catholic Faith for his salvation.
@@andrewangelopacheco9960Sede
@@taylorcanon8890 Sede in Latin means seat, chair or throne.The Pope has an official Throne, I have never known Francis to sit on it, he perhaps knows it would be hypocrasy.
François n'est pas un Pape de l'Eglise Catholique Apostolique et Romaine mais le chef de la secte conciliaire 👹
@@andrewangelopacheco9960 well then you're just a heretic or a Protestant. Pick whichever poison you prefer, but be clear, you are poinsoning yourself with each attack against the Pope. You should repent and submit to The Pope, or never claim to be Catholic.
I wish Pope Francis was as nice to those people who love the traditional Latin mass
❤🙏🎄✝️🎄🙏❤ GOD BLESS YOU PAPA 🙏 GOD ALWAYS WITH YOU 🙏 PRAISE THE LORD 🙏✝️🙏
Amen to that. No more brother conflicts ✝️🤝🏻☦️🤝🏻🇻🇦
wow the Anglican bishop said "Petrine and Primacial mission". That seems a big deal to me.
That is only if the Anglicans take possession of the truth of the Catholic Church.
@@andrewangelopacheco9960primatial actually only means he is their equal. We don't believe in the Papacy as vested in an individual as Anglicans. Rather each Diocesan Bishop is a Pope.
@@hesedagape6122 Christ disagrees, hence why Peter is the rock He built the Church upon.
@@LordMazdamundi lol. St Peter writes clearly in his Epistle that Christ is the Rock on which the Church is founded. Read your Bibles and not just listen to power hungry clergy
@@andrewangelopacheco9960 we chant the Nicene Creed every Sunday at Mass in the Anglican Communion. The Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church do not equate the Catholic Church. That is just simplified denominational propaganda to stop simpletons like you from asking questions
Saint John Henry Newman, pray for the unity of Christianity
Thank you 🙏 for the Roman Catholic. church and Anglican church. Relationship status. God bless us all. His true Faithfuls. We love you. Pope Francis ❤❤❤😊😊. A smile now for PEACE. For tomorrow too.
@@pilarortiz3039it’s the Anglican CULT NOT church. Please read my comment
Protestant’s belong to 48,000 protestant CULTS. And you have the Anglican CULT NOT church. Now please read my other comment
Amen
Come home Anglicans. Now is the time for unity. We shouldn’t be enemies.
As long as we're all clear on no female priests and no bishops married to their same sex partner, then I'm all for this continued dialogue.
But clearly ‘we’ are not all on board with this. The Anglicans are not going to backtrack on this, and we are not going to yield on it. Thus we are at an impasse. Dialogue all you like Rome, but try and fudge on this too…
***SEX AND LOVE ARE NOT THE SAME THING***
@@diarmaid0heineachain314 The majority of Anglicans do not support either. It’s still a matter of some debate in Anglicanism but support for it is still in the minority.
@@AlgernirI’m an Anglo Catholic and I don’t agree with what my Church has changed i.e female clergy and same sex marriage, I pray we go back to the traditional teachings in that sense.
@@skrtlxrd1283 Me neither, that’s why I’m ACNA and in a bishopric that doesn’t allow for women’s ordination. Luckily we are seeing a lot of pushback from the African primates on those issues so hopefully things will turn around.
Let us unite in the name of Jesus Christ
Amen - let's unit and find common ground instead of division and hate like so many comments on here - shameful and so unchristlike - embarrassing.
Let's unite under the One Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, the only Religion Christ founded outside of which no man can be savd.
That doesn't mean being under your Supreme Patriarch. We can learn to value each other. Anglicans believe in Equality of Apostles.
@@openminds8765there is not common ground between truth and the darkness of lies!!!
@@andrewangelopacheco9960 Huh - that is 3rd grade thinking - so a tribe on island in the middle of the Indian Ocean have been created by GOD just to be eventually go to Hell? Pleassssse
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I converted to Roman Catholicism age 32
from a happy to me Protestant faith upbringing
exposed to Presbyterian, Episcopal, Moravian, & Methodist. If have a curiosity to fill heart, good to do that being very honest toward God and knowing His past history with earth (according to own culture and His birth in Bethlehem). God loves the world and His Spirit of Goodness that made it fruitful.
I converted from lifetime Presbyterianism to Roman Catholicism at age 55. I agree with you!
Amen - let's unit and find common ground instead of division and hate like so many comments on here - shameful and so unchristlike - embarrassing.
Thank you for writing this. There was many a true-blue Ulster Orangeman who called quietly for a priest at the end, and failing that, any salt-of-the-earth Catholic, to speed them on their way. (Edward VII included, who summoned a Catholic priest so that he could die in the faith). My point is this: God made those old-time Protestant virtues of hard work, thrift, sobriety and directness, so actually us Catholics thank YOU Protestants for reminding us that there may be an /i/ in 'Catholic', but there's no /i/ in 'God' nor no /i/ in 'Team'.
@@JoeLondon-te3hf i never understood why Protestants won the title of hard working? People in Catholic countries are just as hard workers and maybe more due to poverty in their lands. We as Catholics should question this sayung "protestant work ethic" because it is rooted in deep discrimination agaunst Catholics and our values. And thanks for the info about the Ulster men calling for a priest, I never heard that but I believe it. I did hear that Henry the 8th secretly confessed to a Catholic priest and not his own created priesthood, but don't know if ts true....
Nothing can compare to the greatnes of Christ's Holy Romn Catholic Church, where there is no room for doctrinal error.
Pope Francis being diplomatic.
Blessed mother save thy church
Her Son’s Church.
@@adamandrews4107 Yeahh!
Only Jesus can save.
@@JFE7378 but we can ask His Mother and the saints to put in a good word for us!
@@adamandrews4107 why can't you ask Jesus Christ, seems like you don't have a good relationship with Jesus Christ. This is the reason the church is suffering because we are focusing on others instead of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ don't look for perfect words . He knows our heart.
Unfortunately, Anglicans have separated themselves even further with women "bishops" and "priests". No wonder so many Anglicans have converted in Britain
Right
Going to become even more complicated when the church of Rome finally gets rid of celibacy and welcomes women as priest and bishops.
@@jolyonvickers8035 Just a matter of time... both churches are dying and driving people away because of people like @jacquelineharrod6386 who only spew hate and divisiveness instead of trying to unit and being in GODs LOVE.
@@jolyonvickers8035while married priests are already exist in the Catholic Church (I.e. Byzantine Rite)
@@Alien-jg3cl Those married priests admit that marriage is a hindrance to God and His people.
The Anglican church exists because Henry VIII wanted a divorce. Come home to Rome ❤️🔥✝️
No you need to study a bit more of the debates on both sides. Henry made himself defender of the Faith- which faith? The Roman Catholic one. Henry was very RC and quite reluctant and sad to separate. He is not as portrayed petulant and monarchical
He actually had his divorce and his new Queen was pregnant with his second child when we separated from Rome because he was threatened by the Pope with excommunication for keeping Archbishop Thomas Cardinal Cranmer, Archbishop of Canterbury and Papal Legate as well as future Reformer of Church of England, alive. So learn your own history well. Annulment is what he sought and not divorce. Cranmer annulled his marriage, married him to Anne Boleyn and baptised Elizabeth. If Cranmer was killed all those would be made void. Hence he protected him.
@@Abraham-uk4xy I will repeat: the Anglican church exists because Henry VIII wanted a divorce.
@@Abraham-uk4xy
He was given that title and honour by Pope Leo X for his book on the defence of the seven sacraments. This was before Henry broke with Rome. He thought that he could still be a Catholic but without the Pope. The Church in England was schismatic at that time with Henry as the head of it. It was not long after he was dead that is turned to heresy under Henry’s son Edward VI who had been brought up by Lutheran educators and the Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Cranmer preaching that the Catholic Mass was a blasphemous fable and a dangerous deceit.
@@Abraham-uk4xyHenry Viii fell to his own lasciviousness, lust an pride!!!
Oh how good and delightful to live as Brothers All United!
Today is the feast of the English Martyrs, and in particular the three Carthusians who died on this day in 1535. May they pray for the healing of the wounds that continue to divide the two churches.
You have the holy Catholic Church. You have 48,000 protestant CULTS. You have the orthodox CULTS. Please read my other comment
Pope should've demanded apology for the Anglicans beheading the Catholic Priest
As we are at the door of end times in the world God wants all Brothers to come together to save the world from tribulation to come, Our Pope is true we all are Children's of God we have save each faithful and for that all our differences should be set aside and we get united in the name of Christ who loved all of us , God loved both Cain and Abel but Cain took it the wrong way and he committed the Sin let's not do the mistakes again ,God has guided everyone by showing what has happened in past for the future to come 🙏
Pray for the unity of Christendom
There’s NO disunity because there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH the holy Catholic Church. You have 48,000 protestant CULTS. You have the orthodox CULTS. Please read my other comment
Anglican should join the Catholic church once more. The path to home is Rome
with sodomites and women for priests? Hope not
The path to home is through the Son and only through him as the Bible says. Stop worshipping a man, Sainrs and Mary and only worship the one true God in all his forms.
@@egordontov9814You really talking about Sodomites as a Catholic after what your preists have done? I respect you wanting to have your relationship with God through Catholicism but please do not try to lecture us about morality.
Also can you explain why you call Anglican sodomites?
@@egordontov9814The whole reason you reject the idea of women Priests is because you say that a Priest should be a close to Jesus as possible and as Jesus was a man, Priests should be men. But that is as insane as saying Jesus wasn't white therefore there should be no white Priests. You put Priests and the Pope on a pedestal with Jesus when nobody can because they as we all are sinners. You worship humans and this comes from your worship of Mary and Saints instead of putting all your focus and worship on the one true God 🙏✝️
Also if women were not meant to be Church Clergy, when God came to be as a strong Athiest, he wouldn't of sent me a Church with a female Clergy 🙏✝️
@@egordontov9814 The Catholic Church has plenty of "sodomites" already.
Accept Jesus and his church how hard is that? Man wants to change the church BUT Christ wants it the same. Our sins have nothing to do with God. Stubborn human beings led to it's downfall
Unity is strength! May God bless our World!
The anglicans are not united even among themselves. And according to statistics they are going to be completely gone by the end of this century
The Episcopal church (offshoot of Anglican) is the most divisive denomination there is. They will tell you that.
@@Mutasis_Mutandisyou have the Episcopalian CULT. You have the Anglican CULT. There’s NO so called disunity because there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH. Please read my other comment.
@@simonslater9024 You’ve come across very disrespectful. No, I will not read your other comment. MUTED.
@simonslater9024 sleep little child. You cannot use your First Mass Catechism to argue theology and Church History. Get a life
We are not built to be united administratively but rather relationally. The strength of Anglicanism is its ability to shed disagreeable members without bloodshed. With Rome there must be blood or at best a thousand years of infantile insults.
We make it easy to leave but hard to stay for a purpose. The Archbishop of Canterbury cannot wake up and tell us we are Roman Catholic tomorrow. Sadly the Pope can wake up and submit you to the Anglican Communion. That's the reason I always wonder about Roman Catholic trolls on the Internet. One Pope changed your liturgical rites in seconds. The BCP is stronger than ever.
PRAY, PRAY, PRAY FOR THE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST !!!
2 Cor.6:14 14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
I don't want the Anglican Episcopal church to UNITE with the Catholic church. We have 500 years of our own traditions now . Just like the eastern orthodox churches have their own.
“They’ll know we are Christians by our love.”, not religion. Catholic here and sending hugs to all Christ followers. 🤗 ✝️🙏
The faith we have is the reason we have love to give . But do not think for a moment that all faiths are equal. Stay Catholic, but a practicing one. Understand the wisdom and teachings of God through his one Holy Roman Catholic Church, and you will see when love doesn't always mean accomodations, and compromise. The west has floundered in cultural and socially unity and ethics all under the guise of "mercy" and "compassion" in the most laziest sense of the word. The results speak for itself. Tough love is what is needed in our society when it is necessary. Not everyone will be onboard, but then again Jesus Christ said his teachings will divide families. It is a tough discipline to be a true Christian, one where everyone including myself comes short to attain. But that is not the point of Christianity.
Secular Christianity views are almost like "well doesn't matter what we do, we'll over go to heaven" so the work of being a practicing Christian becomes lax until their faith ceases to exist.
We fall short of grace but the point is to keep trying despite the impossible. That is our cross to bare, just as Jesus Christ bared his cross for us.
We must unite under The Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Rome, and no other
They're panicking about losing Anglican priests to Catholicism. Beware of useless dialogue....always talking...we've been "talking" for 500 years. I pray they'll finally come back to the 'Church of Peter' soon.
The Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter here in the US and Canada is the wave of the future for Anglicans and the Catholic Church.
Please help put the bells back onto St. Joseph church in Manteno Illinois. Thanks. ❤
Uh, it's not an "imperfect communion"...we aren't in communion.
I pray for their conversion to the one True Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church!
Except the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church is not the Roman Church.
@EasternChristian333 satan is using you to do his work!
@@EasternChristian333it includes the Roman Catholic Church. The pope is _first amoung equals_ according to the Eastern Orthodox doctrine. The churches need to return to full communion status and I pray that pope Francis and eccumenical patriarch Bartholemew can acheive it. The tragic split of 1054 tragically destroyed that unity and previous attempts of reconciliation have failed, but JESUS prayed for unity. With that goal in mind, it is necessary to resolve the issues.
First time a Roman Catholic is admitting that Anglicans being Catholic is not enough but they can only be Roman Catholic. Lol
Anglicans apart from Conservative Anglo-Catholics are more than happy with their options.
Please read my comment
There should only be one united church with the Pope as its leader.
...or you could open your mind and realize we are all on a journey with Christ (in GOD time and ways) and you should be happy our Anglican Brothers and Sisters chatting with us so we can ALLLLLLL be GODs People. Stop driving a wedge and pushing your agenda of hate and divisiveness. Do what Jesus would do bring people together by His/our LOVE - this is 2024 not the 16th century.
Jesus is the leader, not the pope
Or we convince him leave there false church and join truth church
@penmind; Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ taught that the one thing We should fight for is “Truth”. It is interesting how a young Francis looks exactly like Anglican bishop Justin Wellby & Bishop Strickland. Oops
Silicone disguises worn by satanist devils who want to control the water from California to India. Ain’t that right Pope Pharaoh? ISN’T THAT RIGHT POPE PHARAOH??
This is so good to see.
Amen - let's unit and find common ground instead of division and hate like so many comments on here - shameful and so unchristlike - embarrassing.
I am from the north of Ireland. St. Patrick came among us in 432 AD, and easy date to remember even for slow learners:) St. Patrick, whoever he was, was not a Catholic or a Protestant or a wee free. He was, notwithstanding, a saint. Surely being a saint is the whole point? Pope John Paul the Second loved us and suffered with us, Pope Benedict the Sixteenth loved us and taught us, thank God we have Pope Francis who loves us and reflects us as we really are. @openminds8765
@@openminds8765 The common ground are the teachings of Christ in His Catholic Church.
Praying for positive and productive results as the Roman Catholic & Angelican unity galvanized & strenthened towards THE BIBLE PROMISE.
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Anglican heresies are a big stumbling block...
Yes, but hurdles make you strive all the more and make you jump higher.
@@JoeLondon-te3hf Hurdles the size of the Universe makes it impossible to jump that high. "God or Nothing"
Stop with hypocrisy. Pray for unity. Real heresy corruption of Rome and her cover ups
Beautiful Communion and meeting.
As of late I as a catholic would give you the Pope, he is more Anglican everyday.
Our theologies are not much different. Our practices are also not very different. Our polity is different, especially in England where the lines between Church and State overlap…The king is the head of the Church. Where the rub is the role of women, election/selection of bishops. The married clergy thing is much less a difference as many eastern right Catholics have married clergy.
I personally think most Anglican music, hymns and choirs are better than RC’s.
It is. Read the 39 Articles.
Leave the indifferences..let’s unite again in the ❤ of our God Almighty..
Giving up their faith for unity.
Communication and talks is necessary to build relationships and obtain unity. This does not just mean among the Pope and Anglican leaders alone, but it should begin with the laity, us! God is love and He wants us to become love, become one with Him. With heart felt prayer, humility and kindness God can bring back the one Church founded by Jesus 2000 years ago, where we all become one in Christ as it should be. Most of the comments here are so very encouraging XXX
It was the Roman's. Jesus changed wine into water !! 👍
How hard is it to commune together? I have a feeling we allow our own politics and theology to get in the way of loving and being one with each other.
How many English martyrs spilled their blood…
A greater path way of unity is to unite the Catholic family, speaking and dialoging with those Catholic bishops who have issues with his theology and then dialoging with protestant bishops etc.
Christ is the head of the church. The first to rise from the dead. And scripture must be the yardstick, not the opinions of men, however learned they be. But Francis is a Christ-like man, and his care for unity is a Christ-like thing.
Christ IS the head of the Catholic Church. The successor of St. Peter only serves as the visible head of the flock.
It was 1500 years of Popes and their Cardinals making it up,as they went along that led to the Reformation. Just as there were many roads leading to Rome as Capital of the Roman Empire, there are surely many roads including non-Christian ones to Heaven.
@MyJMacD Sadly, I think you are deluded if you think Francis has a care for unity of the Catholic Church. Just look, not at what he says, but at what he has done and continues to do.
@@diarmaid0heineachain314many are still blind to the heresies of pope francis. This ecumenism is fruitless. Most probably this pope will introduce women priests and allow for protestant like divorce in the name of ecumenism
@@diarmaid0heineachain314 Actually, I wasn't talking about the Roman Catholic church but the Christian church of all denominations worldwide.
No female Anglican Bishop present?🤔🙄
It's only the Anglican Primates (not all Bishops) attending this meeting. There are currently 41 Primates (there's one vacancy), of whom two are female: the Primates of Canada and Brazil. Both attended the Rome gathering.
But as on the Roman Catholic side, gay ones could attend.
Do they not permit divorce in the Anglican Church? Wasn’t that the whole reason….
Roman Catholics have it too. They just give it another name. Same with Orthodox.
@@hexahexametermeter there is no divorce in the Catholic Church, if you are talking about annulment the Church can declare that there was never a marriage to begin with. A truly marriage is indissoluble.
@@robbinshood79 Yep legal fiction. Like i said, you just give it a different name and pretend it didn't happen.
@@hexahexametermeter Look up the Catholic definition of marriage. there are specific requisites. If one of those requisites was not met the marriage per the definition was never valid, even if the ceremonies appeared to take place. It actually makes sense. Marriage is not some loosely defined thing in catholicism like it is in the secular world.
@@hexahexametermeterIt’s why it’s such a big deal to make sure you get married inside a church or have a priest doing the wedding. So it’s a real wedding
Heresy meets heresy.
What about the free churches?have they never heard of them?
Oh, Anglicans actually call these dudes 'primates'? XD
Anyway: "One Church, Many Rites" seems like the obvious logical solution to the Christian disunity problem.
The Anglican Church came out of The Church of Rome
We can safely say these two are bad at their "jobs"
The Romans, russian and greek Orthodoxys, the Lutherans and Protestants, the Muslims, the Jehovas Witnesses and the Manichaeists will ALL come back together under the true path of Christ Jesus and his Church- and this will happen soon in his Holy name
The main issue with Anglicans is Holy Orders.
Reallllly that is the main issue - I would argue there are bigger issue but at least everyone is talking and bring GOD's LOVE into the world 🌎
@@openminds8765I think the clue is in the word. They are 'Anglicans'. You can't really get much into an Englishman's head. Us Celts simply abide them until the truth slowly dawns on them. Pope Francis understands this, being a foxy old Tuscan:) I love England so much I actually moved here a long time ago, but I'll always be Irish. The Pope's message here is the mark of any decent human being, yet alone Catholic.
@@openminds8765 that is a huge issue because that means there are no valid sacrament being done in the Anglican church. Never now and never was.
@@chris22capt so everyone who is/was Anglican has been condemned to Hell by GOD? Better they were never born?
@@openminds8765 that's not what i mean, BUT for someone to be validly ordained, that someone has to receive the order by laying of hand from a Bishop with Apostolic succession that had been consecrated into episcopacy using valid rite of either western or eastern church and that someone should also be ordained according to the same valid rite. BUT, the Anglican rite is not valid and your Bishops don't have the Apostolic succession. That's why there are no sacrament being done, either back then or now. That's also why former Anglican priest that has been converted into Catholic and still wish to carry on his priesthood ministry must be re-ordained first by a Catholic Bishop using a valid rite before he able to continue his ministry.
Without talking to Charles Windsor, this doesn't matter.
ADORO PAPA FRANCESCO ❤❤❤
The Church must unite ......
Can two walk together unless they be agreed? Amos
"The church of Rome once in times of old was for the great glory of her piety, her heavenly doctrine, her divine service, Christian discipline and constancy in the faith against all heretics, most famous. And as the sun in the firmament shines far brighter than all stars, so she shined far above all churches on earth by example of her exceeding Christian piety, that well and fittingly she deserved to be generally called the mother of all churches. But into what and into how great darkness and blindness did she after sink by God’s just judgment, being as it were cast out of heaven and in the same still lies buried and drowned? He that in such great light of the Gospel sees this not is blinder than a mole. Neither is it any new thing, seeing the same happened first to the church of the Israelites, afterward to the churches in the East and to them in Greece."
-Girolamo Zanchi, Confession of the Christian Religion, Dedicatory Epistle, pg. 2
God's light still shines upon the Just. During the heavy storms, where Jesus was asleep and then woke and calmed the Storms upon cries from disciples. Catholic commentary says St.Peter's side never had major impact as that which that took place at the side of Judas which was getting out of hand as seas were being turbulent.
Those two and what they represent do have something in common. They are both not catholic !
UNITY is possible if all denominations slough off rituals & accept JESUS as the ONLY LEADER.
unity is possible if all denominations outside of communion with rome humble themselves before the One Church that Jesus established. However it isn't because pride exists sadly. Every Christian on earth has catholic lineage because every denomination stemmed from Jesus' Church. Unfortunately men are sinful and want Jesus their OWN way. Not the way that our Blessed Lord entrusted to the apostles and his successors.
@@DMServant Very well said.
Protestants have done that, there's 30,000+ protestant denominations that have option. How's it working out for them?
I'll stick with the one true faith Roman Catholicism.
Jesus instituted what you refer to as rituals. There's no point in saying let's all use the name Jesus but not the Church & the teaching He founded. The Apostles & the early Church didn't do that.
Unity based on what? Or better still based on whom?
BRING OUT THE STRIPPERS
Pope Leo XII : Ubi Primum (#14), May 5, 1824
"It is impossible for the most true God, who is truth itself, the best-the wisest provider, and the rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings, which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal rewards on their members. By divine faith we hold "One Faith, One Lord, One Baptism", this is why we profess there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church."
Saint Thomas More, pray for us.
Thomas Moore? Let's see: Thomas Moore tortured and killed many people in London. Their crime? They owned a Bible in English. Worse yet, the Vatican made him a saint. And then in the year 2000 Pope John Paul II made him the patron saint of politicians.
P0pe fransesco le pido por favor benedica las vidas de mis hias y mis yernos y sus familias que santa mari la mayor y santa mari della pace y el espiritu santo benedica mis hikas y mis yernos y sus famili y a mi dolly agamez pope fransesco benidica sus vidas y mi bida dolly agamez 😢😢😢😢😢😢👩👧👧👩👧👧💑💏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝❤❤❤❤❤❤
God forbid,
Humans are saved by repentance of sins not by baptist nor brethren nor presbyterian but by chirst mercy we are in this world no one deserves mecry neither are we saved by presbyterian or methodist we repentance a d acknowledgement that we are a sinful people is the only way we are saved
Servants of Christ are not to unite with antiChrist the papacy. They must be seperate. Christ does not unite with antiChrist just as Jesus does not join with the devil.
Anglicans are cosplaying Catholics
It's not helpful or proving greater faithfulness to Christ by either side just making abusive generalisations.
Couldn't help to notice a lot of GFACON bishops missing lmao
Where is Johnny Depp when ya need him?
Come on, come home to Rome.
She’s been here all along, from the beginning. Safeguarded by the Holy Spirit, just as Christ promised. Until the closing of the age.
A description of the Antichrist in the Bible:
"Let no one deceive you in any way. For unless the apostasy comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one doomed to perdition,
who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god and object of worship, so as to seat himself in the temple of God, claiming that he is a god - do you not recall that while I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. But the one who restrains is to do so only for the present, until he is removed from the scene. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord [Jesus] will kill with the breath of his mouth and render powerless by the manifestation of his coming, the one whose coming springs from the power of Satan in every mighty deed and in signs and wonders that lie, and in every wicked deceit for those who are perishing because they have not accepted the love of truth so that they may be saved." (2 Thessalonians, 2:3-10 in the Catholic Bible)
Roma me estás escuchando , no te lo tomes personal o en en serio , déjame reír jajajaja jajajaja jajajaja jajajaja
There should only be one united Church with God as it's leader. Stop worshipping Saints, stop worshiping Mary and stop worshipping a Pope. The only leader we should have and worship is One True God, in all his forms; ;The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit! 🙏✝️
Please, in the Name of Jesus our Lord & our God, if you are a Christian (there are some cults which abuse the Name)
STOP repeating these (sataniic) long debunked, outrageous LIES about the Catholic Church & what Catholics do. Those bigoted, medieval/evil, hate-filled lies are false, absurd and sickening . They are utterly unchristian & don't stand up to any investigation. SHAME ON YOU.
What's keeping the Anglicans disunited???
Not having the see of St.Peter as their Head.
Ordination of women and general liberalism, causing a split between the traditionalists and the liberals
Tolerance of other views. Allowing women to be priests and allowing gay priests out of the closet and into relationships.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 That certainly isn't. This shift in general is strongly correlated by decline, especially when compared to otherwise comparable views.
People seeking truth will be repelled by something which changes to fit the social fashion
@@kylejacobson9587 I agree that church attendance (in all Christian denominations except the fundamentalists) is in decline. This is due to secularism and materialism as well as prosperity and a lack of deference. My point is that Anglicans are divided on female and more so gay priests, even more so gay priests with gay partners.
Amen
Eucharist & the primacy.
"NUNCA REZE COM OS HEREGES, REZE POR ELES"
I don't feel I'm in "imperfect communion" with schismatics, thanks God. May St. Joseph, patron of the Holy Church, intercede for their conversion to Catholicism!
Just heretics like Francis.
The foundation of God is truth and love equal to Justice, you already overcome the limit back off Ravens, one day pope Francis will be responsible for being still in collaboration with Justin Welby, and Anglicans.
Theatre of the absurd
Ghostwriters at the Pontifical North America Seminary must be busy.....all these typewritten speeches !
As Pope Leo XIII teaches: all Anglican ordinations are absolutely null and utterly void. What is Francis meeting with these laypeople from England?
Everyone should read Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical Apostolicae Curae concerning the Anglican sect.
You are absolutely positively correct! Pope Leo13th ‘s declaration concerning the invalidity of Anglican Orders
is still the official teaching of the Catholic Church. No matter how many Catholic vestments the protestant Anglicans wear, they are not validly ordained. In the eyes of the Catholic Church, they are only laymen, and not priests or bishops. As Pope Leo said, “ Anglican holy orders have always been and continue to be absolutely null and utterly void!”
@giovanniserafino1731 and so we cannot be brother Christians and faithfully love each other,? Interesting
And Mortalium animos of Pope Pius XI on false ecumanism.
@paulbastier3773 Anglicans are NOT begging Roman Catholics for Reconciliation or incorporation into your Church. That should be obvious after the failure of the Anglican Ordinariate.
Ecumenism means don't fight with me but let's learn to speak the truth in faithful love to each other as Christians.
Pope Leo was a fool who had dementia.
The Ecumenism since the Council has been a failure. In fact, much of it has caused great damage to the Church due a watering down of our teachings and practice, especially in the liturgy.
Very true. False ecumenism was warned about in the papal encyclical of Pope Pius XI Mortalium animos. Take a look at it. All the things that he warned about against a false ecumenism and where it leads to are being done in our Church today. They are calling it ‘a change of emphasis.” In his opening speech at the start of Vatican II Pope John XIII said that he hoped that the council would teach the faith with every greater clarity and without attenuation. That has not happened, but rather the contrary.
So if the Church of England came back into communion with Rome, would Rome allow the female clergy to stay ordained.
Hopefully not. But this discussion is moot because as shown in statistics and the news, in the next 40 years the participation and members of the Anglican church in England would be Zero. It would cease to exist.
@@maverick7291Seriously? Where did you get the stats?
Hopefully the Catholic Church in England replaces it.
@@workinpromo look it up. It's news on any media about the Anglican church disappearing in 40 years.
So yes Catholicism would be the defacto main Christian denominations in England by then. And the Catholic Church does not do female clergy, the Anglican and other liberal Churches did it and well they are going bye bye.
Revelation 17:4 🤔
John 17, 20-22
Esto perpetuaa pro Deo et Ecclesia!
Why reach out to the useless clergy? Reach out to the British people, they're starting for real faith
Despite our minor differences, Anglicans are the closest Catholic relatives ❤.
Unfortunately, the differences are not minor. The invalidity of Anglican Orders which is still official Catholic teaching as confirmed by Pope Benedict XVI, and the attempted ordination of women priests and bishops by the Anglican Communion are major issues.
Despite dressing like us they are not “our closest Catholic relatives” as evidenced by King Charles III when during his recent coronation solemnly promised to “ uphold, protect and maintain “ the Protestant reformed Anglican Church.
Perhaps a good start for serious ecumenical dialogue would be the return of the Catholic cathedrals and churches which were stolen from us during the Anglican protestant reformation of 16th century. Then I would suggest monetary reparations be made for the thousands of Catholic Monasteries, Abbeys and Religious Houses they confiscated and destroyed.
@@giovanniserafino1731 You could not have said it any better!
No, Orthodox Christians are, because they have valid sacraments
I would say the Orthodox are our closest, in fact until 1054 we were One.
@@Westyrulz Exactly! Apostolic Succession. Valid Holy Orders. Seven sacraments, Devotion to the BVM. A hierarchical Church. Ecumenical councils until 1054..