i wish there were sensible metro stations that go below roads and have entrances on both sides of the road they are under. maybe even 4 if located on a crossroads . . Also: bus stops along the little road where you put the large metro thing with the plazas?
20:22 I think it would have been much easier and more accessable for the people if you'd just turn around the station and therefore shiftify the rails away from the houses so the station got enough space :)
Should call it Fisherman's Bend Station s as it's on the end of a Fishing Hook interchange on the River Bend, Also a pedestrian underpass rather than an overpass may work better.
Love your detailing and decorating. A suggestion for the name of Pearl District, just call it Pearl Grey. You don't even have to add "district" to the name, it's a nick name that's memorable and people of the area would know what you're talking about.
.. the trainstation at 22:30 is nice and everything but ... it feels so architecture like xD they have this extremly over the top designed walkway aaaaand it goes away from the people ... but i have to ask why did you just not move the rail further away and turned the station around by 180° so it would sit nicely against the housing without the wonderful curved roads? ^^
27:30 The overpass pillar is right in the middle of the tracks. I use the under ground metro hub in all of my builds now. I find myself watching it all the time, lol.
New transit hubs look great, although one of the road pillars on your interesting shaped road is in the middle of the train track. other than that, I really enjoyed watching you put the big plaza train station in, well decorated and i love seeing the hundreds of people using it. thanks for another Fab episode Biffa.
16:56 Probably call it the Hickory Interchange. It's right next to that district. EDIT: Also, there should be transit service (ideally, metro service) to the industry areas. Decent untapped demand.
These have been fun little building videos to watch. Also did you notice that around 5.03 that it looked like the intercity train clipped the bridge a bit so may need to be raised. Also for the plaza I think you may have accidentally named it because I love Swervey Curvey Plaza as a name. Then when I heard there was an area called Underhill I couldn't help but think there should be an area called Overdale near it lol.
"Put the train station on the wrong side because he don't want to take away the buildings than move the buildings to make room for spaguetti streets and pedestrian path" => classic Biffa :D (It's a joke, I really like your video but I'm not sure I agree with your love for spaguetti roads ;) ) Also I don't think it's a good idea to always do long and separate subway lines like you put it in your new area.
So many points in this one muttering "No, go UNDER. UNDER. Your connection is short, that rail/road/highway/thingy you're avoiding is already elevated, go under it. Except for metros where it's "the line is already underground. Just leave it there. Save the above-ground stations for where you've have long runs on the surface anyway, because digging is expensive. It's the only thing that's more expensive than passing over something, but if it's short and more level, it's worth it.
I’m looking forward to you adding an airport with the airports dlc, you seem to have a lot of tourists so it might be time to build out some parks / nature reserves
It might be useful to remind everyone that in C:S, cims only travel from one zone type to another (residential to commercial, residential to industry, etc.). So there's no point in providing a nice residential to residential service for example, since it won't be used.
It seems a bit superfluous to have the bus station & the metro/bus hub right beside each other. Would it not make more sense to change your bus routes to go through the metro/bus hub (which would also increase interconnectivity)? You could then have a cool building to replace the bus station, with the walkway going straight to it. Maybe the Metro Shopping Centre, an Expo Centre or some other cool building?
Biffa - excellent job on this video and I found it really enjoyable watching you create what you do here along with the mass transit planning which is amazing. Also I had a thought about the curved road tool mod you were using and wondering if it could be adapted to creating walking paths as well.
Better solution for ground station. Move the tracks. That's what would have happened w/ new station. Opens lots of room for another small hub. Buses. Pedestrian walk ways through a park and/or plaza. Having to watch content till my computer gets upgraded.
Calling bs right now. No US city of this size would ever have such oustanding transit! Sad jokes aside, you can force trains to bypass by changing the speed limit of the lines that service the platforms to 80km. ;)
Or a bus line. Especially the forestry area (and I think the first industry area) are completely disconnected from the transit. Or at least they aren't directly connected to that district with the bad transit satisfaction, even though it neighbors them directly. It should be trivial to put in a direct shuttle bus from one of those industry areas through the residential into the other industry area and back.
Pretty sure Hugo won't be able to work with his VPN as most important jobs like that won't allow just unapproved IP addresses to have access to this traffic system.
Challenge for your next series: Use busses and roads with no trucks and no cars allowed as if they were metros and trains. This would allow only the busses and services to go on those roads, which would make them effectively lower-level trams, trains, and metros. You could even restrict civilian vehicles from leaving the housing areas, to make sure they use the public transport for work and for shopping. Speaking of shopping, you should try adding a 4x4 of high-density commercial surrounded by trees in residential areas, to mimic mixed-use development without actually overlapping buildings, resulting in multi-story shopping center buildings spread all around the place.
One thing to help with sections that may be of interest to people; Chapters. This will help not only to navigate to helpful sections, but also for those who do not have time to watch the entire video.
Yeah, I also think that Biffa tries too much to make traffic and transport good) USA inspired city should be more car oriented, without metro, trams, paths, buses etc, just roads, parking places and traffic jams)
I agree with some others that moving the rail over to keep the station on the correct side is much nicer 😅 your solution does look fun to drive on though!
There’re multiplatform underground stations (2 or 3 platforms) on the Workshop for the times when you don’t need huge hub, they really improve connectivity in the city
I would suggest not connecting every bus loop to a transfer hub. Have 1 or two wide servicing areas that have 5 or so stops on them that go to the transfer hub. Uses the other spaces on the hubs for point to point. Then have loops that are dedicated to each different districts. Using the point to points to connect them and the 2 wide service ones mentioned before to sorta connect them too.
Not sure if anyone pointed it out. Biffa dragged a road to make room for a hub. Later in the video he added a node in front of the hub so people could take a bus over to the area and cross the street to get into the hub. If you follow that street to where it makes 90 degree bends, you the that one side appears to have fallen in a sinkhole due to the terrain dropping right there.
the bypass railway is still considerably higher than the station. if you lowered it down, you could also lower the pedestrian overpass, although an underpass would make more sense there
It might be worth re-configuring the train station you had to cram a bypass line next to. It's not the most functional design - but the other stations look amazing!
biffa please completely overhaul the original 2 metro lines from earlier in the series, i dont believe they're as efficient as an alternative setup could be.
15:00 I think you could have shifted the road toward the other buildings a little bit, that way you could have put in the transit station without delete all those buildings directly adjacent to the new metro stop.
That slightly slanted train station has enough space for a single track between the platform track and the station entrance retaining wall (in lieu of your silly ped path that should be straighter to the left of the building), place it with Move It. And place the other track on the other side of the platfome track. The bus station is kinda in the middle of nowhere where it should be alongside one of the train or metro stations. The red passengers district isn't connecter to the first square core district of the city, the two metro lines just don't connect in a convenient way and no buses link those two district together. As for the Pearl district, the bus station should be just on the other side of the mail road?
13:00 iirc you can set the line speeds individually per track? which means you can set the inner tracks at the same speed as the rest of the line while going for like 20 mph on the stopping tracks, which should get the passing trains to stay on the actual passing tracks. hm. Is it possible to set give-way signs for where the platform tracks merge with the passing tracks?
Hey Biffa! Love watching your Cities:Skylines videos - you actually made me buying the game. And here is where I could use your help: Is there a chance for you making a video on how tos et up the game, install mods and look for workshop content? Keep up the good work - and have a nice week!
On the new Metro hub, if you had shops to the outside you should see if you can add zoning to the walking path and have them right up against the path rather than a new road. Would make a nice pedestrian plaza between your parks,metro, and shops
11:03 1 metrotrain dedicated to pendeling back and forth between the 2 (or 2 to increase it). At the back for your commercial you could use the zoneble pathways and put some offices in there too seeming there already is parking and transport.
I'd love to see a mod for Cities Skylines that won't allow you to so easily demolish/move existing items. Much like in real life it's not so easy to just bulldoze/move a building, to put in a new road/buildings. Would make the game much harder but would really get you to think about the placement of items.
5:20 so so many passengers getting off the train, walking on the walkbridge inside the station, and exiting on the near side only to then walk on sidewalks to get them back to the same side of the tracks they started on! Does that stations not have an exit on that side? Or maybe that exit isn't connected properly?
How does the traffic AI work in the game ? When playing on console (Xbox one) with no DLC playing extra vanilla, even when you get the lane mathematics correct you still get a lot of bad driving and bizarre lane switching and cars not using the dedicated lanes would be good to understand how the game play works when it comes to driving to build better road networks to stop the bizarre lane switching and incorrect use of lanes
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Do you have right turn or red enabled as in real USA?
i wish there were sensible metro stations that go below roads and have entrances on both sides of the road they are under.
maybe even 4 if located on a crossroads . .
Also:
bus stops along the little road where you put the large metro thing with the plazas?
You should rename the teatime hub black widow's because of all the morbid-ish statues lol
I like hearing updates on Hugo. He’s a jack of all trades. (Master of none? Maybe? Sorry Hugo.)
20:22 I think it would have been much easier and more accessable for the people if you'd just turn around the station and therefore shiftify the rails away from the houses so the station got enough space :)
Was thinking exactly the same :D
Easier and more sensible. Also less fun IMHO.
Came here to say exactly this. The loop and bridge seemed unnecessary, used up way more room
@@seankennedy7970 Yeah and the Station front looks actually quite nice, so it should face the cityside :)
Agree as well. Much simpler all round.
You should definitely name your new train station with the curvy roads the LoopTeaLoop Station!
Should call it Fisherman's Bend Station s as it's on the end of a Fishing Hook interchange on the River Bend, Also a pedestrian underpass rather than an overpass may work better.
Do I sense a fellow Melburnian or does Fisherman’s Bend just happen to be a common place name?
I'd put an amusement park or something in that empty space
@@submarinetrain107 I searched and one of the few places I could find is a street in South Carolina (fellow Melburnian here)
Love your detailing and decorating. A suggestion for the name of Pearl District, just call it Pearl Grey. You don't even have to add "district" to the name, it's a nick name that's memorable and people of the area would know what you're talking about.
Biffa did it again. Loop bridges before he just making a tunnel :D
.. the trainstation at 22:30 is nice and everything but ... it feels so architecture like xD they have this extremly over the top designed walkway aaaaand it goes away from the people ... but i have to ask why did you just not move the rail further away and turned the station around by 180° so it would sit nicely against the housing without the wonderful curved roads? ^^
This city looks pretty dapper. What about a cinema studio area or a silicon valley(esque) neighbourhood, need jobs for these students.
You should do tourist bus lines because you have a ton of unique buildings and tourists would be clogging up the public transport.
27:30 The overpass pillar is right in the middle of the tracks. I use the under ground metro hub in all of my builds now. I find myself watching it all the time, lol.
New transit hubs look great, although one of the road pillars on your interesting shaped road is in the middle of the train track. other than that, I really enjoyed watching you put the big plaza train station in, well decorated and i love seeing the hundreds of people using it. thanks for another Fab episode Biffa.
10:20-10:43 I love how the cymbals were in tune with you plopping the rocks
31:13 Hi Biffa! You should move the pillar of your road as I think a lot of trains taking the bypass line risk to collide with it ;)
you could call that train station with the looping bridge the "Spoonstir Station"
its like your stirring your tea with the spoon
Build a space port for rockets. Will be a great add on for the map. Also, thought for a second it was another great city fixing episode but not😅.
16:56 Probably call it the Hickory Interchange. It's right next to that district.
EDIT: Also, there should be transit service (ideally, metro service) to the industry areas. Decent untapped demand.
20:20 turn it around! It takes up the whole triangle anyway with this curvy roads.
That metro hub is absolutely gorgeous! Nice work as always, Biffa!
These have been fun little building videos to watch. Also did you notice that around 5.03 that it looked like the intercity train clipped the bridge a bit so may need to be raised.
Also for the plaza I think you may have accidentally named it because I love Swervey Curvey Plaza as a name.
Then when I heard there was an area called Underhill I couldn't help but think there should be an area called Overdale near it lol.
"Put the train station on the wrong side because he don't want to take away the buildings than move the buildings to make room for spaguetti streets and pedestrian path" => classic Biffa :D (It's a joke, I really like your video but I'm not sure I agree with your love for spaguetti roads ;) ) Also I don't think it's a good idea to always do long and separate subway lines like you put it in your new area.
So many points in this one muttering "No, go UNDER. UNDER. Your connection is short, that rail/road/highway/thingy you're avoiding is already elevated, go under it.
Except for metros where it's "the line is already underground. Just leave it there. Save the above-ground stations for where you've have long runs on the surface anyway, because digging is expensive. It's the only thing that's more expensive than passing over something, but if it's short and more level, it's worth it.
I’m looking forward to you adding an airport with the airports dlc, you seem to have a lot of tourists so it might be time to build out some parks / nature reserves
It might be useful to remind everyone that in C:S, cims only travel from one zone type to another (residential to commercial, residential to industry, etc.). So there's no point in providing a nice residential to residential service for example, since it won't be used.
A name for the curvy train station could be “Twisted Tea Station.” I loved the build this episode!
Why not just "Twistea Station"?
I dunno why but Pearl district immediately made me think of boba tea lol. Maybe Boba or Bubble District? Lol
Yeah, Pearl district is already a tea reference.... nothing more needed.
Maybe you should rename Teatime plaza as Connecteacut Plaza, its getting everyone connected across the city!
For the curvy train station- You can name it Twisted Tea- It is an alcholic drink here in the states.
a monorail would look amazing in the pearl district 😌✨
Why don't you make the path near the station underground?
The swirl station should be called the Loop-Tea Loop!
"We're going to lower the taxes. We just don't need this much money"
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If only the government owned the oil fields and other industries IRL, instead of corporations...
Pearl district > porcelain district :)
I feel like you need a Tea Times Square somewhere in the city
It seems a bit superfluous to have the bus station & the metro/bus hub right beside each other. Would it not make more sense to change your bus routes to go through the metro/bus hub (which would also increase interconnectivity)?
You could then have a cool building to replace the bus station, with the walkway going straight to it. Maybe the Metro Shopping Centre, an Expo Centre or some other cool building?
Love the merch! Would love a shirt that says HorkyBorky on it
For the swirly station name: "Twirly Train and Transit TEAminal".
AKA the "TTTT"
I vote for renaming Pearl District to Earl District. A simple change and you're back to tea theme! :)
I'd love to see an episode entirely dedicated to detailing throughout the city
Biffa, have you considered creating an area with bars, clubs or casinos for your nightlife?
Love how the one metro loop road worked. Gave it some personality in that area! Always enjoy watching you build cities!!
Pro tip: IT clusters look really cool and also make money. Might be a good idea to put one in here.
The station with the spiral roads - surely that's a Train Stir-tion?
Curved District name: “Booderee” or commonly known as the Round Leaf Tea Tree - A native plant to New South Wales.
I do enjoy it when Biffa starts cracking out the rocks and detailing!
I love watching the people run between stops in transfer hubs.
Biffa - excellent job on this video and I found it really enjoyable watching you create what you do here along with the mass transit planning which is amazing.
Also I had a thought about the curved road tool mod you were using and wondering if it could be adapted to creating walking paths as well.
yes any
Better solution for ground station. Move the tracks. That's what would have happened w/ new station. Opens lots of room for another small hub. Buses. Pedestrian walk ways through a park and/or plaza.
Having to watch content till my computer gets upgraded.
Delighted to see you using Metro! It is my favorite choice in my cities.
Calling bs right now. No US city of this size would ever have such oustanding transit! Sad jokes aside, you can force trains to bypass by changing the speed limit of the lines that service the platforms to 80km. ;)
What about a bike Highway System connecting your industrial area's to where people live?
Or a bus line. Especially the forestry area (and I think the first industry area) are completely disconnected from the transit. Or at least they aren't directly connected to that district with the bad transit satisfaction, even though it neighbors them directly. It should be trivial to put in a direct shuttle bus from one of those industry areas through the residential into the other industry area and back.
Pretty sure Hugo won't be able to work with his VPN as most important jobs like that won't allow just unapproved IP addresses to have access to this traffic system.
Challenge for your next series: Use busses and roads with no trucks and no cars allowed as if they were metros and trains. This would allow only the busses and services to go on those roads, which would make them effectively lower-level trams, trains, and metros. You could even restrict civilian vehicles from leaving the housing areas, to make sure they use the public transport for work and for shopping. Speaking of shopping, you should try adding a 4x4 of high-density commercial surrounded by trees in residential areas, to mimic mixed-use development without actually overlapping buildings, resulting in multi-story shopping center buildings spread all around the place.
One thing to help with sections that may be of interest to people; Chapters.
This will help not only to navigate to helpful sections, but also for those who do not have time to watch the entire video.
I dont like your public transport in this city because in usa the oublic transport is very poorly planned out (im joking)
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Yeah, I also think that Biffa tries too much to make traffic and transport good) USA inspired city should be more car oriented, without metro, trams, paths, buses etc, just roads, parking places and traffic jams)
Have you ever seen public transport routes in Mexico
Oh right you haven’t, because there’s not any!
@@alinecruz3079 but im not talking about mexico. What youre saying is very very VEEERYYY TRUE but im comparing public transport in missisipatea to irl
Pearl grey!
I agree with some others that moving the rail over to keep the station on the correct side is much nicer 😅 your solution does look fun to drive on though!
The station with all the bendy/twisty, up-and-down roads and paths should be called Topsy-Teavy Station/Junction/Whatever fits best...maybe Landing?
There’re multiplatform underground stations (2 or 3 platforms) on the Workshop for the times when you don’t need huge hub, they really improve connectivity in the city
A nice name for your metro hub is: Metropolitea Plaza.
I would suggest not connecting every bus loop to a transfer hub. Have 1 or two wide servicing areas that have 5 or so stops on them that go to the transfer hub. Uses the other spaces on the hubs for point to point. Then have loops that are dedicated to each different districts. Using the point to points to connect them and the 2 wide service ones mentioned before to sorta connect them too.
City Themes:
have yet to see somebody build into a hillside, like an alpine settlement
CPP would go mental over all the lumpies and bumpies ^^
Hi i love ur vids
Hey bifffa, I keep having a problem we’re cars keep stoping in the middle of the highway, it backs up far. Do u know what’s wrong?
Hey Biffa, I think turning those treed areas next to your capital building into park areas could help that area out a bit.
With all these memorials, you could name the metro hub the "ResTea 'n Peace Plaza".
Not sure if anyone pointed it out. Biffa dragged a road to make room for a hub. Later in the video he added a node in front of the hub so people could take a bus over to the area and cross the street to get into the hub.
If you follow that street to where it makes 90 degree bends, you the that one side appears to have fallen in a sinkhole due to the terrain dropping right there.
PARKING DECKS!!!!! We have tons of them over here in the states.
Pearl District can be changed easily to be the Boba Pearl District. It's a "hip, new tea" for a hip, new district.
the bypass railway is still considerably higher than the station. if you lowered it down, you could also lower the pedestrian overpass, although an underpass would make more sense there
It might be worth re-configuring the train station you had to cram a bypass line next to. It's not the most functional design - but the other stations look amazing!
I'd suggest turning some of the benches by the train station around so people can sit and watch the trains go
biffa please completely overhaul the original 2 metro lines from earlier in the series, i dont believe they're as efficient as an alternative setup could be.
15:00 I think you could have shifted the road toward the other buildings a little bit, that way you could have put in the transit station without delete all those buildings directly adjacent to the new metro stop.
That slightly slanted train station has enough space for a single track between the platform track and the station entrance retaining wall (in lieu of your silly ped path that should be straighter to the left of the building), place it with Move It. And place the other track on the other side of the platfome track.
The bus station is kinda in the middle of nowhere where it should be alongside one of the train or metro stations. The red passengers district isn't connecter to the first square core district of the city, the two metro lines just don't connect in a convenient way and no buses link those two district together.
As for the Pearl district, the bus station should be just on the other side of the mail road?
For the new bypass station, set a lower speed limit for the tracks next to station platforms; raise speed limits for bypass tracks. No more problems.
There's no such thing as not needing more money.
How else is the Mayor going to pay for his vacation home?
I only now realised how much of an inspiration you have been for me in the last year… all my cities now look like yours haha! I love it though
Thank you Sir! I love the public transportation system in your city. People always learn something from you. 😍🇬🇧
12:11 instead of the ground bypass station and the bus station you should add one of the train bus hubs from the mass transit dlc
13:00 iirc you can set the line speeds individually per track? which means you can set the inner tracks at the same speed as the rest of the line while going for like 20 mph on the stopping tracks, which should get the passing trains to stay on the actual passing tracks. hm. Is it possible to set give-way signs for where the platform tracks merge with the passing tracks?
Hey Biffa!
Love watching your Cities:Skylines videos - you actually made me buying the game. And here is where I could use your help: Is there a chance for you making a video on how tos et up the game, install mods and look for workshop content?
Keep up the good work - and have a nice week!
If this is a US build, representing Mississippi, you gotta do a hurricane lol
On the new Metro hub, if you had shops to the outside you should see if you can add zoning to the walking path and have them right up against the path rather than a new road. Would make a nice pedestrian plaza between your parks,metro, and shops
Haven't watched for a while but awesome work Biffa.
Call the area Swiftea!
USA themed city should have tram/trolley in my opinion...
Thanks for the entertainment! Cheers :-)
23:51. That exposed road corner is looking ripe for a footpath connection to the station.
Update.
I see you beat me to it later in the video.
So inspirational I'm madly taking notes on things to add for my next build!
Biffa, you live in the UK and I feel you have never heard of an underpass, #lessbridges 😂
Love the content ❤
Might I suggest the "Teamus Looping Station".
You could also place the underground parking on the corners next to the station and the people have to cross to get to the station.
11:03 1 metrotrain dedicated to pendeling back and forth between the 2 (or 2 to increase it).
At the back for your commercial you could use the zoneble pathways and put some offices in there too seeming there already is parking and transport.
I'd love to see a mod for Cities Skylines that won't allow you to so easily demolish/move existing items. Much like in real life it's not so easy to just bulldoze/move a building, to put in a new road/buildings. Would make the game much harder but would really get you to think about the placement of items.
I'm actually using a mod called Move It to allowed to do that. So you basically just need to play without that mod for what you want 👍
Maybe improving pedestrian/bike paths and buses can help even more.
5:20 so so many passengers getting off the train, walking on the walkbridge inside the station, and exiting on the near side only to then walk on sidewalks to get them back to the same side of the tracks they started on! Does that stations not have an exit on that side? Or maybe that exit isn't connected properly?
You definitely need a district called 'Teatimes Square' as a play on Times Square
I love watching videos like this, great job!
How does the traffic AI work in the game ? When playing on console (Xbox one) with no DLC playing extra vanilla, even when you get the lane mathematics correct you still get a lot of bad driving and bizarre lane switching and cars not using the dedicated lanes would be good to understand how the game play works when it comes to driving to build better road networks to stop the bizarre lane switching and incorrect use of lanes
search for biffa vanilla, the traffic fixes should be what you are looking for.
14:19 lmbo 😂😂
Maybe you could add some blimps! Definitely would add to the American feel