Star Wars could easily have set itself in the year 23-something-or-other, like Star Trek did. The ambiguity was clearly the whole point. Just as Tolkien's adventures were set in Middle-Earth, neither our earth nor specifically anywhere else, Star Wars deliberately sets its story "once upon a time." We can speculate all we want about what that means, whether or not this defines the series genre as fantasy or sci-fi, but the answer is always going to be "yes, and also."
Very "realistic" in the sense of characters behaving as they actually would and actions having the consequences they should. I'd love something with the grit and intelligence of Andor but with a small amount of the mystical stuff, perhaps a lone Jedi. The Kenobi series could have been that, if written by someone (anyone?) else.
It actually detracts from it, for me, to think Earth exists in the same universe. I prefer zero connection to this world in which we live in my fantasy series. However, if we're talking about realism in story content, THAT I love. I agree that Andor was the most interesting thing that's been done with the Star Wars franchise since... well, since the OT, frankly. Taking a serious and darker look at the "small people" in a galaxy like this is the perfect way to go. It lets us actually EXPLORE this world and doesn't keep beating us over the head with the Force, which feels like telling the same story over and over again.
If we define realistic as requiring fewer and smaller leaps from our current possibilities, I would prefer Star Wars to be toward the realistic end of the spectrum. When Luke used the force to shoot the torpedoes into the exhaust port, it's unclear if using the force is a physical force or a state of mind. When Cassian convinced Kino to inspire the prisoners, no magical force or hand-wavy tech was used. I prefer that. But each to their own.
The cool thing about this is, “a long time ago in a galaxy far far away” implies that if Star Wars were nonfiction, we might could watch the actual events through a strong enough telescope.
Perhaps George Lucas had this super secret super powerful telescope? Unfortunately it broke doen in the late 2000s so that nobody received any new knowledge from this galaxy far away and far, far ago. This would explain why the Disney-Starwars doesn't fit well with the first two trilogies.
That really is the only answer. It was described that way so it would have nothing at all to do with us or our world. It's a nearly 50 year old question that always comes back to that answer.
In the game Jedi Outcast, whilst on a ship going through hyperspace, it's possible to use a cheat code and go outside through the hyperspace skin and see a very familiar shot of a certain pale blue dot. No, it's not Chandrila, or Alderaan, or even Bakura. It's Earth itself!
You bringing up alderaan with Jedi knight in the same sentence is a SIN in it's self because continuity wise alderaan has been gone years before Jedi outcast LMAO 🤣
Earth may technically exist, but not to them. They have no idea we exist. They are in a completely different galaxy. So no, it really doesn’t exist for them.
Or maybe they already know of our existence now since technology there may have advanced even further. The movies do say that it all takes place “a long time ago”. The only real question now is: how long ago was “a long time ago” in this context?
@@OswaldMarcRogers That's the part that always blew my mind as a kid. How long ago? The comic showcased in this video lined it up with pre-Columbian societies that had already developed Sasquatch myths. So maybe no more than 1,000 years ago? But in my young imagination the events of Star Wars could have been happening long before human beings even evolved here on earth. Given a universe several billion years old, why would we be likely to sync up at all?
Don't forget that the Millennium Falcon shows up at the Star Trek battle of Wolf 359, the special effects team that handled Wolf 359 had just finished a Star Wars production and were allowed to use a shot of the Falcon, it is way in the back of one scene for around a second and you almost need a magnifying glass to see it but it does show up.
That was just a cameo. a great cameo to make a few bucks while some try to fry their brains on the possibility or impossibility of such occurrence de facto. they can't even travel beyond the outer rim without f crazy op gigantic jedi fighters hyper space rings or force sensitive whales that travel unimaginable distances no ship (but the one mentioned) can even think to reach. How could they reach Earth with no coordinates, no Hyper space lanes, and because still is too slow because the Milky way is a stupid number far from the place they went to meet Thrawn and Ezra - and they can only do it with exceptional or maybe unique measures regarding their tech
Because some special effects artist Wrongly put the millennium falcon in a star trek movie that takes place in the milky way galaxy Are you stupid enough to think In the star In the star wars universe You're an idiot! 1st off A long long time ago What does that mean Several hundred years ago Several several million years ago2 or 300,000,000,000 years ago Then the milky way galaxy didn't even exist! The most Powerful Telescope imaginable we would still not be able to see spaceships flying around on the other side of the milky way galaxy We have now the things we are seeing hundreds of millions millions of light years away Those things happen millions of years of years ago the light is Those things happen millions of years of years ago the light is just now visible visible on earth
I always had the fantasy ending scene for ET in my head, where we see ET walking up the ramp to his ship, from the inside, where we see a protocol droid like Threepio, welcome him back home in Basic and once in orbit, they rendevous with an extragalactic exploration ship like the Eye of Sion.
I mean he even recognizes Yoda (or his species). For all we know his species could be closely related to Yoda's species. And isn't there an easter egg in one of the prequals that puts E.T.'s species on the Senate? I should stop writing comments before watching the whole video 😂
Yes, E.T. is a cousin species of Yoda but with brown skin. A hispanic distant cousin so to speak. So E.T. can use the force too but can't speak English so well yet!
My mom worked at the Florida Star Tours Space Port! SHE EVEN SAW LANDO CALEISSIANl!!! Though in this galaxy, he goes by the alias of Billy Dee Williams
It's Space Opera. It's even been called the Exemplar of the genre in films. I'd give that title to EE 'doc" Smith in writing, especially his Lensmen series. Starwars (episodes IV-VI) most certainly brings Space Opera to the big screen in an excellent way.
Star Trek is the more tech minded of the two franchises simply because Trek tech is based in theory and actual design. Like communicators and warp technology. Star wars is lazer swords and space wizards.
@@DeMan59 One interesting thing about that is the Warp Drive of star-trek. It was pure made up technobabble until after The Next Generation began airing episodes. But isn't now. A fan of the show, Miguel Alcubierre, just happened to be a theoretical physicist and worked Einstein's equations the other way round to show a way that at least did not conflict with relativity to do a warp bubble and drive.
In one of the many magazines my Dad bought back in the day, I clearly remember reading a timeline of events of the universe, in which it jokingly claimed that at around 20000 ABY a memory disk that contains the whole story of the Skywalker family drifts crash lands in the backyard of George Lucas, who then adapted it into the movie series Star Wars.
It's my headcanon that at some point, the Star Wars galaxy will have a final cataclysmic war between the Jedi and the Sith. It will leave most of their galaxy in ruins, and the remnants of the different species who survive will set out in massive ships across the cosmos, journeying for thousands of years aboard these ships, to find new homes in their nearest galaxies. One of these galaxies is ours, and they begin anew on this planet (kinda like the BSG finale, actually). In "canon" you can say that the movies are some of the very few records we've "recovered" from some archeological dig or something. Either way I like the idea xD
What I've read, on social media I don't know if it's canon or whatever it is The people from the Sith planet, (older than the Star wars galaxy and older than empire) in unknown space The Sith people were at war with another species went on for 100 of years apparently And two Jedi Knights who had cross unknown space by mistake or something like that And they found these people who were resistant to the force and they had their own type of magic Hence why the beginning of the Sith lords
Might make a good story that whatever colony ship that came here became the astroid that killed the dinosaurs. Then whoever has possession of the force uses mind manipulation to erase the memories of those that survived leaving any tech, and ect hidden somewhere. We find it and read it's contents, the contents of the Star wars.
It may be more correct to say, "Does Earth exist yet?" If "far far away" is more than billion lightyears, then a "long time ago" would predate the formation of the Earth. The Star Wars galaxy would be much more densely populated with stars and this would support the case for several billions of years ago.
Depends on "Long time ago" how far back are we going... One can say "A long time go" there was Mammoths on Earth about 4,000 years ago or 12,000 years ago..
@@fosyay1780 It is, but as light takes a year to travel a lightyear, events that take place far, far away will have no effect fort a long time. For example, everyone is talking about the star Betelgeuse, which is expected to go supernova "soon" meaning likely within g the next 100 years. If it does, this means that the star has already exploded. If it exploded 1382 then we should see it go some time next year. So we would see the star go super nova in 202, even though it blew up a long time ago.
The key phrase that everyone misses is..."Long, long ago..." Meaning that all of Star Wars happened centuries ago or perhaps even longer. I always liked to believe that a group of human Star Wars characters eventually found their way to Earth, colonized it, basically creating the Earth native, which is why we get common words like "monkey" and "lizard."
I believe this was already discussed by Lucas in an interview a while ago that, YES, Earth does exist in the Star Wars Universe but if I remember correctly, our galaxy is like on the other side of the known universe.
@@Maddog-xc2zvIt was amazing! There was a diner with a great apple pie, a surplus store with lotsa trooper armor, lotsa strange looking people... come to think of it... it could also have been a shopping mall in Denver, hard to tell these days
Wow. Another great video. The question of limitations/boundaries in storytelling is very interesting. I find that particularly the more fantastical worlds like the Star Wars galaxy or Middle-earth feel, on the surface, like imaginary sandboxes of limitless exploration, but it really is a challenge to expand upon established lore, magic systems, and world-building in a satisfying way without breaking the illusion.
This video goes way deeper into the storytelling than I thought it would and explained some things I never even thought about, like the distinction between fairy tales and traveller's tales. Good stuff!
In Heir to the Empire, on page 17, there is the following conversation: “Threepio cocked his head toward Luke’s cup. ‘Forgive me, sir…but may I ask what that is you’re drinking?’ ‘This?’ Luke glanced down at his cup. ‘It’s just something Lando taught me how to make a while back.’ ‘Lando?’ Threepio echoed, and there was no missing the disapproval in his voice. Programmed politeness or not, the droid never really cared for Lando. Which wasn’t surprising, given the circumstances of their first meeting. ‘Yes, but in spite of such shady origin, it’s really quite good,’ Luke told him. ‘It’s called hot chocolate.’” If that isn’t a subtle nod to the audience that Earth exists, I don’t know what is.
@Hello-bi1pm Getting blasted by stormtroopers, then nearly stuffed into an incinerator by the employees of a man who betrayed your friends might be somewhat predjudicial.
At some point some clone troopers in (Clone Wars TV show) series say "Draconic" at some point. I heard people say that term shouldn't exist unless Earth exists to some influential extent.
@@ilyalead4blade897 'A long, long time ago in a galaxy adjacent to ours, cosmically speaking, but still pretty freaking far away in terms of absolute distance: It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships--'
@@rockinray76 2,5 M light years away. Too close for the real Galaxy where SW happens, at least if some lose words in a considerable number of interviews given by Lucas are still canon. With Disney canon is money. Ironic as they cashed less at least on their last "lore" series than they received in return. Hopefully Kathleen Kennedy will be gone after the second quarter of next year. Her contract ends and that's it, no proposal on table for renovation (lots of money lost on this IP - and not only - and as they don't want to assume she meddled and crapped writing they're not get rid of her on cold blood but "killing" her softly).
My idea on how to connect this: the far future of the Star Wars universe is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The galaxy in the Guide is, as we know, ruled by an Imperial Galactic Government (with the Emperor being comatose for millennia) with, of course, no one knowing how it's actually run. What if that Imperial Galactic Government is some successor to the Galactic Empire? (say, the Fel Empire from Legends or a moderate offshoot of the First Order? And well, we all know how Earth and humanity came to be in the Guide.
Gorge Lucas said in an interview once that every one has the force they just have to train to use it some have it more than others but everyone is capable of using it
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5:38 "Luke also speaks English" - In the Star Wars movies I've seen, he speaks German. I guess you've seen a version which was translated to English (from the Galactic Basic Standard original)?
It's not cannon but Yoda and Darth Vader went to earth to beat demi god ass in soul calibur 4. That crossover makes me wish namco could make a star wars fighting game.
@@Teamneoplasmaghetsis I think you just play though the arcade mode with either Darth Vader or Yoda. But sometimes it just doesn't trigger for some reason.
Fun fact there is a couple fanfictions out there where Star Wars discovers earth and one of them is set in the 1990s. That one is called the Terran Alliance series.
@@DeadPixel1105 Many fans write or read fan fiction. It's for fun. We know it doesn't hold canon weight, but it is relevant enough for the comments section.
Every beginning in all star wars movies. "A Long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away" So yes they have Earth in the Star wars universe. But that will be in their future
well that all comes down to this guy's youtube channel name - The Art of Storytelling. It doesn't matter where a story takes place - just as long as it's a good story and makes sense within the perimeters of what was set up by the creators...to paraphrase what he said you just can't have a Jedi showing up waving a wand and casting a spell on a Sith Lord...cause those Sci-Fi rules were already established. I mean if you think about it that's what turned a LOT of people off on the sequel trilogy. Rey just started using the Force like if it were magical powers with no basis of how or why or where she even got them. Disney stock would be up a LOT more had they paid more attention to Sci-Fi rules. Same thing for Warner Bros right now. If you include things in your story that are normally NOT there, nor never have been, say like your main characters / villains are now ummm i dunno... singing and dancing 😬...then it's just gonna turn a LOT of people off and said company doesn't profit and stocks go down down down.
@@TheFroneyZone The sequels made billions of dollars. Quite literally some of the most successful films in the history of cinema, so your argument that their rule-breaking stories turned "a LOT" of people off on the sequel trilogy is downright farcical.
I forget the exact line, but in the original novelization of Star Wars, Obi-Wan says something like, "water off a duck's back" or maybe it was, "ducks in a row." But Han asks, "What's a duck?" Some fans have taken this to mean that Obi-Wan has knowledge of Earth and the life on it. Or maybe it was foreshadowing a movie George would make in 1986.
That's a great galaxy and the language is the same as ours even if it is not supposed to be. How the hell do they know falcons to baptize the highly modified freighter as millennium FALCON? wow maybe Lando has some knowledge of Earth's wild life... Ridiculous...
The answer was clear in the very first Star wars with the words "A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away". Earth is in the Milky Way Galaxy, Star wars is not the Milky Way Galaxy. Could be The Andromeda Galaxy, Or The Cigar Galaxy. Because it was a long time ago, it possibly even be The Black Eye Galaxy.
Nice analysis. Before “a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…” the original 1976 trailer began “somewhere in space, this may all be happening right now”. So not necessarily long ago, but that concept of distance separating these events within a shared universe was there.
My theory has always been that Humans eventually leave the galaxy on large void craft and eventually settle in our current galaxy on the one planet that supports life here
In the novelization of A New Hope, Obi-Wan says to Luke, "Even a duck needs to be taught how to swim." To which Luke replies, "What's a duck?" Obi-Wan then replies, "Nevermind." It's a bit of levity in the novel meant to briefly lighten it up. However it's something left out of the movie primarily because it does take the movie watchers out of the lore and left to ponder...even if just for a second.
This is so wild because when I was a kid in the 80s riding Star Tours you couldn't convince me that I didn't just go into outer space and almost die multiple times on a space cruiser.
Yes. "A Galaxy Far, Far Away." Away from whom? US! The viewer! This has also been tackled in the old fiction, when Indiana Jones found Han Solo's crashed ship on Earth.
What if the Star Wars characters are human because, in ancient times, a civilization secretly advanced into space and left the Milky Way to join the Star Wars galaxy?
I’ve always assumed that humans and English in Star Wars were a convention of the storytelling: the language, name and appearance of the dominant species in galactic politics (and the species of our main characters) is represented by humans speaking English purely for convenience and so that the audience can better relate to them. Similarly I assume that names like “Skywalker” and “Savage Opress” are attempts to translate names rather than the actual sounds they used to refer to themselves. The actual “Luke” may have had orange scales and tentacles and been called something unpronounceable in a language as foreign to us as Shyriiwook.
Yeah, Tolkien did the same thing with the language, though even more intentionally, as he was a linguist. He represented the common language Westron as English, but explicitly made it clear that that's not actually what it is, and that e.g. the hobbit names too are just English representations that are quite different from the actual names.
you could argue that the events of Star Wars happened at the time of ice age on Earth, for example, or even the during the Jurassic if you want. The point is that enough time has gone by for the Star Wars Universe to be separate from real Earth, even though it is confirmed that Earth does exist in Star Wars.
This reminds me of that meme. Han tells Obi Wan that his ship is called the Millennium Falcon. Obi Wan asks, "What's a falcon?" Han says, "I don't know."
I've always thought it'd be funny to see how anthropologists in the star wars galaxy would react to finding humans on some random Bluemilk planet in the milky way for some reason.😂
No, and that's one of the things that drew me in as a child. The absence of earth made Star Wars even more mysterious to me as a kid in 1977. Disney, however, wants you to forget all about that.
I know the E.T. connection is likely just cross-cameos for fun and not rooted in canon, but personally I like to believe that they do in fact take place in the same universe. It could even be that E.T.'s ability to make the bike float was a basic usage of the Force. The hardest thing to explain would be the Yoda costume though; it implies that if Star Wars really happened in the E.T. universe, it also somehow exists as fiction on Earth despite technically counting as non-fiction history. Regarding the genre, it's often regarded as a "space opera" and I've also heard the term "science fantasy". Personally I'd say that Star Wars primarily counts as fantasy with sci-fi as a subgenre. The sci-fi elements are there, but they are secondary to the fantasy elements. In a way you could say that Star Wars is cut from the same cloth as the Arthurian legend of Camelot, but with a sci-fi twist to it.
@akale2620 I've had some people think along time ago. Meant the Revolutionary War was going on during the Star Wars films. I laughed at them. Because to them that was a long time ago. You may be correct about our sun mot being formed yet. But dinosaurs were still millions of years ago. Or I at least give the benefit of the doubt and say Earth is still a hot molten orb spinning around our not so old sun
Imagine if they did a final trilogy and at the very end of the final movie, R2D2 arrives on Earth and goes dormant for many years only to be uncovered by a small, bearded child. R2 awakens, and them unloads the Journal of the Whills onto the boy.
In Andor, there is a moment you meet some clumsy looking aliens that clearly are actors in costumes…. And it massively broke my suspension of disbelief out of Andor! I had to remind myself that this is Star Wars!
Should have used current advanced CGI and this would never happen 😂 This luddism of sticking to people in costumes just because the OT did it is absurd
They've used actors in costumes with some robotic parts to move the face in every single live action Star Wars project recently. There's even a scene in Mandalorian where a small alien is sliding across a table like a puppet, clearly being pulled by someone and no one complained. And when they do use CGI people complain about it for certain characters, Yoda was CG in the prequels and people didn't like it, so in The Last Jedi they made him a puppet again.
Which part are u talking abt? There was literally 3 scenes with aliens. Only one had more than one alien in frame and none of them were the focus. You'd really have to be SEARCHING thru the background to notice something like that. And I'm pretty sure he just means the girl with an alien head in Mon Mithmas apartment. They don't look any worse than the original or prequel aliens, which were also obviously costumes. Yet when they CGI a whole alien like Zeb everyone complains they should stick to practical effects
@sodaman8888 bro exactly lol. Dude probably had to pause it to notice anything even slightly off. There's one alien I think he might be talking about, bc none of the other aliens that are costumes are ever in frame for longer than a second or 2.. And its like. Yea it's a lady in a costume. They're all actors in costumes. It doesn't LOOK like a costume except the fact we know it's a costume lol. Ppl really just look for any reason to complain at this point. I find it hilarious there's a whole class of people who LEGITIMATELY have not liked any star wars release since empire strikes back. They think return of the jedi was lame. Hate the prequels. Don't like anything disney has released. Yet still go on the internet and complain about every subsequent release. Comb every frame to find a flaw. It's crazy to me When the prequels do CGI, it's too much cgi and we need more practical effects. When disney does practical effects, it doesn't look real enough we need CGI. What happened to just watching a show and absorbing the story?
This is my story. In the Star Trek Universe, before the Federation existed and before ships had magnetic shields, a group of Earthlings found a wormhole that took them to the Star Wars Galaxy many years into the past. But the wormhole moved before they could return, so they were stranded. There they found the Planet Coruscant and colonized it because it was uninhabited. And so this is why humans are existing a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. And why the ships in Star Wars don't have magnetic shields.
I like this analysis. I think that there has always been a yearning among Star Wars fans to see the stories of everyday people within the Star Wars galaxy. I assume that this stems from a desire to more easily see how we as fans would fit within the galaxy far, far away.
I swear to god, when i was a kid, in the 80s, i read a star wars marvel comic where they said that earth was destroyed in the clone wars. I havent been able to find it
The thing with andor is that sure its good but star wars is at its best as a fantasy. Sure that fantasy story can be and has been mishandled. But stories like the clone wars and star wars rebels are masterclasses in using fantastical elements as wonderful philosophical anologies, all the while covering grounded problems of corruption, distrust and the need for hope.
I like some Star Wars stories exploring the non mystical sides of Star Wars. My issue with Andor is it corrupts the Rebellion. Good and evil aren't limited to Jedi. If the Rebellion doesn't represent "good", then it's just a power struggle where I have no reason to invest in the outcome.
@@TheChristianPsychopath huh that's interesting that's actually one of my favourite parts of Andor, I really enjoy the complexity. I mean that show while showing flaws of the rebellion it goes hard on the true vileness of the empire even to those who serve it. For the rebels it's more of a question of how they fight not whether they fight. Cause the empire (facism) has to go but how it is done is not simple. Heck even the fantastical parts of star wars explore that, The Bendu, different force cultures like the night sisters and the lasat, or even the creatures who seem to use the force like loth-wolves and the purgill. Each view and use the force very differently from the strict views of the Jedi, and most aren't portrayed as evil. This complexity doesn't mean the Jedi were evil or maybe even wrong in some aspects of the force but there is complexeties and ambiguity on the right choice, even when evil is very clear.
@@ShayanQ Complexity is one thing, but Luthen giving villain monologues with Vader shadow and Mon Mothma selling her daughter to cover up money laundering isn't complexity so much as moral erosion. Plenty of corrupt governments have been over thrown to be replaced by equally corrupt government, so you need the Rebels to offer something better. I'm hoping season two will correct this issue. Moral struggles are one thing. The idea that anything I do is fine because the other guy is bigger is an ends justifies the means attitude that does not feel very Star Wars. And I'm not saying you can't have some morally gray characters, or good guys who struggle with where the line is. But tossing the line completely like that the only option rubs very wrong.
@@TheChristianPsychopath fair enough, I am also hoping for a mon mothma redemption arc, especially to line up with who she is in rebels, though I am not sure if Luther is ever gonna end up better
It is in a Galaxy many Light Years away,and the events happen a long time ago. A long time ago can be 2 Billion Years ago, or 1,977 Years ago. In an other Galaxy far far Away can mean 1.5 Light Years away, or 900 Billion Light Years away. They could need 100% the Speed of Light to travel to Earth in Year of 4,000 BC ,or 10,000% time the Seed of Light to get to Earth in the Year of 3,492 AD .
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" implies that we're either of extraterrestrial origin and somehow got to this planet and got separated from the rest of humanity, or we are in fact from Earth and already once built a spacefaring civilization which collapsed without a trace.
No, they've thought about it for more than five minutes. It's science fantasy, nothing in it is based on any real science. And that's not to its detriment either, it's just a different kind of story.
Not only was the Holdo "Maneuver" clearly 1 in a million, there was an entire movie about how a literal queen couldn't afford a hyperdrive. The US isn't gonna Kamikaze cutting edge stealth fighters into the middle east.
Interesting take. I'd like to respectfully rebut, and acknowledge that I am ignorant to a lot of Star Wars lore. But aren't hyperdrives everywhere? Doesn't Luke have one in his scrappy little X-wing? And Han in his "bucket of bolts" cargo ship? Doesn't every single ship that travels between systems have one? Seems like they'd be more like common than you suggest, even if they are hard to purchase on Tatooine. As for the maneuver being a fluke, the movie sure doesn't frame it that way. It's more like "she's doing something crazy" rather than "this is extremely unlikely to work". What exactly makes it one in a million? Don't you just point the ship at another ship and hit the gas? Finally, isn't the Battle Of Yavin the defining battle of that era? I mean, it's "year zero" on the calendar. Seems like it's not just some inconsequential war theatre. I thought destroying the Death Star was critical for the survival of the rebellion? You don't think they'd sacrifice one hyperdrive/cruiser to destroy it? After all "many people lost their lives" even just getting the technical readouts. Anyway, thanks for watching and for your comment. It's an interesting discussion!
@@theartofstorytelling1Luke's "Scrappy little X-Wing" is a cutting edge military fighter designed for the empire and only in rebel hands because the empire rejected it for the cheaper TIE Fighter (with no hyperdrive) and the rebels got their hands on them. The rebels often don't really need to worry about price for things they can steal from the empire. Additionally, the Last Jedi includes several details which give clues as to why the Holdo maneuver worked there but not in general. Mainly, the fact that the Supremacy's Hyperspace Tracking Technology worked by keeping part of the ship in both Hyperspace and real space simultaneously. You'll also notice that when she hits the Supremacy, you can still see the stretched stars through the bridge. We only see this during the transition from real to Hyperspace and back again, while during the actual Hyperspace part of the journey we see a more Dr Who Intro type blue swirly thing. I think what is most likely is that she hit the Supremacy (which is in between Hyperspace and real space due to the tracking technology) while her own ship was also between real space and Hyperspace.
That Queen could have afforded the hyperdrive, it's just that Watto wouldn't accept that money, and converting it to local currency would have costed more than that money was worth. Outside of Hutt Space the Queen could have easily purchased a hyperdrive, and that is despite the fact that the hyperdrive in question is, based on how expensive the rest of the Queen's ship looks, probably a rather rare and expensive one. In fact, the 20 000 credits the Queen had could have brought five of those hyperdrives, as each of them costed 4 000 credits. This means that hyperdrives are actually rather cheap and widely available, given that even a planet with a population of 80 000 to 200 000 had that specific hyperdrive model available. Sources: Legends Wookieepedia articles on Watto, T-14 hyperdrive generator and Tatooine.
Not only does E.T. travel from the Star Wars galaxy to Earth. He arrives at Earth within a few years of a movie being released on Earth which coincidentally depicts people and events from his galaxy accurately. He even plays with 'Star Wars' action figures based on some of these people. Like imagine if you suddenly travelled to another galaxy today, and your hosts told you a movie had just been released about the events of the Second World War, and gave you a toy Winston Churchill action figure to play with - and they had no idea any of this had actually happened on your planet.
It's still REALLY hard to leave the galaxy, they don't know much about what's outside their own galaxy (over half the star wars galaxy itself is completely unmapped and nearly impossible to access). With how long it takes light to travel between universes. Even 100 million years could pass they still might not be here yet, theoretically. That's based on what we know abt our own galaxy and physics. Unless they were like one galaxy over, it could take billions of years even going at lightspeed
I read the Star Wars novel back when it came out. So it's been a while. But I remember Ben mentioned something about a duck. And Luke asked, "What's a duck?"
again cameos to attract more viewers and thus more money. who forgot the millennium falcon joining in star trek against the borg? and why only that ship? only Han was friend with Wolf whatever? Poorly convincing
Good video, but as for the future of the franchise...eugh, just leave it alone now. Star Wars has been flogged to death over and over at this point, let's get the industry allowing new and genuinely creative fresh ideas and proper writers, artists and craftspeople to create great new things again.
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How realistic do you want Star Wars to be?
Star Wars could easily have set itself in the year 23-something-or-other, like Star Trek did. The ambiguity was clearly the whole point. Just as Tolkien's adventures were set in Middle-Earth, neither our earth nor specifically anywhere else, Star Wars deliberately sets its story "once upon a time." We can speculate all we want about what that means, whether or not this defines the series genre as fantasy or sci-fi, but the answer is always going to be "yes, and also."
Very "realistic" in the sense of characters behaving as they actually would and actions having the consequences they should. I'd love something with the grit and intelligence of Andor but with a small amount of the mystical stuff, perhaps a lone Jedi. The Kenobi series could have been that, if written by someone (anyone?) else.
It actually detracts from it, for me, to think Earth exists in the same universe. I prefer zero connection to this world in which we live in my fantasy series.
However, if we're talking about realism in story content, THAT I love. I agree that Andor was the most interesting thing that's been done with the Star Wars franchise since... well, since the OT, frankly. Taking a serious and darker look at the "small people" in a galaxy like this is the perfect way to go. It lets us actually EXPLORE this world and doesn't keep beating us over the head with the Force, which feels like telling the same story over and over again.
If we define realistic as requiring fewer and smaller leaps from our current possibilities, I would prefer Star Wars to be toward the realistic end of the spectrum. When Luke used the force to shoot the torpedoes into the exhaust port, it's unclear if using the force is a physical force or a state of mind. When Cassian convinced Kino to inspire the prisoners, no magical force or hand-wavy tech was used. I prefer that. But each to their own.
I like Star Wars being completely different from our timeline, and just completely separate. I love it so much ❤
The cool thing about this is, “a long time ago in a galaxy far far away” implies that if Star Wars were nonfiction, we might could watch the actual events through a strong enough telescope.
That is how we filmed it. We just used a very powerful telescope and captured the events that happened millions of years ago.
Perhaps George Lucas had this super secret super powerful telescope?
Unfortunately it broke doen in the late 2000s so that nobody received any new knowledge from this galaxy far away and far, far ago.
This would explain why the Disney-Starwars doesn't fit well with the first two trilogies.
exactly, but just an extremely powerful one though
Wouldn't be "actual", though. 😀
The closest galaxy is 25,000 light years aways, hence everything we "see" is at least 25.000 years old. 😉
@@Zett76 >25000 Light Years
Off by two orders of magnitude
Sure, Earth exists, just in a galaxy far far away, far into the future.
Hehe. Maybe Star Wars and Planet of the Apes happen at the same time.
if only that was addressed within the first 30 seconds of the video
More like 'far into the past'
@@Mad_Hamzthat's when Star Wars takes place, yes. But from their point of view we on earth are far in the future
@banthatracks_gaffisticksexactly , so Earth would exist in their future.
So Harrison ford discovered Harrison ford
Reincarnation haha
OMG he's the real Booker DeWitt!
@@Quasihamster docter who?
Actually kind of happened in a Star Wars/Indiana Jones crossover comic.
Short answer: yes, in a Galaxy far far away…
That really is the only answer. It was described that way so it would have nothing at all to do with us or our world. It's a nearly 50 year old question that always comes back to that answer.
Not if the earth hasnt formed yet. Depends how far away. Plenty of galaxies could be advanced long before earth, in theory.
In the game Jedi Outcast, whilst on a ship going through hyperspace, it's possible to use a cheat code and go outside through the hyperspace skin and see a very familiar shot of a certain pale blue dot. No, it's not Chandrila, or Alderaan, or even Bakura. It's Earth itself!
Is there a video of this
@@LSF17 Yes
ruclips.net/video/n524KFbD5-Y/видео.html
Can’t be. The Star Wars story takes place in a completely different galaxy.
It's not a video the Jedi would show you.
You bringing up alderaan with Jedi knight in the same sentence is a SIN in it's self because continuity wise alderaan has been gone years before Jedi outcast LMAO 🤣
Earth may technically exist, but not to them. They have no idea we exist. They are in a completely different galaxy. So no, it really doesn’t exist for them.
Or maybe they already know of our existence now since technology there may have advanced even further. The movies do say that it all takes place “a long time ago”. The only real question now is: how long ago was “a long time ago” in this context?
@@OswaldMarcRogers That's the part that always blew my mind as a kid. How long ago? The comic showcased in this video lined it up with pre-Columbian societies that had already developed Sasquatch myths. So maybe no more than 1,000 years ago? But in my young imagination the events of Star Wars could have been happening long before human beings even evolved here on earth. Given a universe several billion years old, why would we be likely to sync up at all?
@@biligator The comic isn't canon, though.
Not being aware of something or someone's existence doesn't automatically make it not exist. Lol
@@biligator I have a silly theory: Planet Mustafar it's the Earth in its early stages of evolution.
Don't forget that the Millennium Falcon shows up at the Star Trek battle of Wolf 359, the special effects team that handled Wolf 359 had just finished a Star Wars production and were allowed to use a shot of the Falcon, it is way in the back of one scene for around a second and you almost need a magnifying glass to see it but it does show up.
Chewie look! It's a Death Cube!
Brawwwwwwwwhhhhhhh!
That was just a cameo. a great cameo to make a few bucks while some try to fry their brains on the possibility or impossibility of such occurrence de facto. they can't even travel beyond the outer rim without f crazy op gigantic jedi fighters hyper space rings or force sensitive whales that travel unimaginable distances no ship (but the one mentioned) can even think to reach. How could they reach Earth with no coordinates, no Hyper space lanes, and because still is too slow because the Milky way is a stupid number far from the place they went to meet Thrawn and Ezra - and they can only do it with exceptional or maybe unique measures regarding their tech
Because some special effects artist Wrongly put the millennium falcon in a star trek movie that takes place in the milky way galaxy Are you stupid enough to think In the star In the star wars universe You're an idiot! 1st off A long long time ago What does that mean Several hundred years ago Several several million years ago2 or 300,000,000,000 years ago Then the milky way galaxy didn't even exist! The most Powerful Telescope imaginable we would still not be able to see spaceships flying around on the other side of the milky way galaxy We have now the things we are seeing hundreds of millions millions of light years away Those things happen millions of years of years ago the light is Those things happen millions of years of years ago the light is just now visible visible on earth
Actually the Falcon made it's (barely) seen appearance at the Battle of Sector 001 in Star Trek: First Contact, not Wolf 359.
Didn’t George say Star Wars happens around 1 million years ago in a galaxy on the other side of the known universe?
I've never heard that
He did, I was about to post a comment about that😂
Actually, that is C3PO and R2D2 in Raiders of the Lost Ark; so it is around 20,000 years ago
@@emergencyrapidresponseteam7181thats an Easter egg
Is Indiana jones the decendant of han solo? 😂
it was billions of years iirc,
So E.T. uses the Force when he made those kids fly on their bicycle?
I always had the fantasy ending scene for ET in my head, where we see ET walking up the ramp to his ship, from the inside, where we see a protocol droid like Threepio, welcome him back home in Basic and once in orbit, they rendevous with an extragalactic exploration ship like the Eye of Sion.
I mean he even recognizes Yoda (or his species). For all we know his species could be closely related to Yoda's species. And isn't there an easter egg in one of the prequals that puts E.T.'s species on the Senate? I should stop writing comments before watching the whole video 😂
ET is in the Republic Senate.
Yes, E.T. is a cousin species of Yoda but with brown skin. A hispanic distant cousin so to speak. So E.T. can use the force too but can't speak English so well yet!
Short answer, yes, it was the force.
My mom worked at the Florida Star Tours Space Port! SHE EVEN SAW LANDO CALEISSIANl!!! Though in this galaxy, he goes by the alias of Billy Dee Williams
sounds like a country signer name
@@MichelleBedard-w6j Wayne Brady used to open for him at the Opry
pretty sure the very first second of the original movie answers this question
In much the same way that this video addresses that point in the first minute, for those who watched it.
Haha😂 obviously
Commenting without watching I see
@@darth_flaviousplays2838 nope, just commenting on the click bait BS really
@@Atheos1 still commenting without watching the video
The original idea was that the story of Star War would reach Earth through a record of the events known as the Journal of the Whills
Oh like with the LOTR and the Red book of Westmarch?
@@taibasarovadil We are told in the Hobbit that the story comes from Bilbo Baggin's personal memoirs.
@@jacobcaraway1754 google the red book of westmarch
@@jacobcaraway1754 yes but if you read the appendix in LOTR, that gets translated into the Red Book - which is where the story is taken from
@@taibasarovadilyes, very much so.
I am no expert, but I think in general, Star Wars is considered science fantasy because there's space ships and robots, but there is also the force
It's Space Opera. It's even been called the Exemplar of the genre in films. I'd give that title to EE 'doc" Smith in writing, especially his Lensmen series. Starwars (episodes IV-VI) most certainly brings Space Opera to the big screen in an excellent way.
Yes it's basically science fantasy.
Star Trek is the more tech minded of the two franchises simply because Trek tech is based in theory and actual design. Like communicators and warp technology. Star wars is lazer swords and space wizards.
@@DeMan59 One interesting thing about that is the Warp Drive of star-trek. It was pure made up technobabble until after The Next Generation began airing episodes. But isn't now.
A fan of the show, Miguel Alcubierre, just happened to be a theoretical physicist and worked Einstein's equations the other way round to show a way that at least did not conflict with relativity to do a warp bubble and drive.
@@DeMan59And muppets
In one of the many magazines my Dad bought back in the day, I clearly remember reading a timeline of events of the universe, in which it jokingly claimed that at around 20000 ABY a memory disk that contains the whole story of the Skywalker family drifts crash lands in the backyard of George Lucas, who then adapted it into the movie series Star Wars.
Lol, that's so corny and ridiculous, I would **love** for that to be actual canon.
It's my headcanon that at some point, the Star Wars galaxy will have a final cataclysmic war between the Jedi and the Sith. It will leave most of their galaxy in ruins, and the remnants of the different species who survive will set out in massive ships across the cosmos, journeying for thousands of years aboard these ships, to find new homes in their nearest galaxies. One of these galaxies is ours, and they begin anew on this planet (kinda like the BSG finale, actually). In "canon" you can say that the movies are some of the very few records we've "recovered" from some archeological dig or something. Either way I like the idea xD
What I've read, on social media I don't know if it's canon or whatever it is
The people from the Sith planet, (older than the Star wars galaxy and older than empire) in unknown space
The Sith people were at war with another species went on for 100 of years apparently
And two Jedi Knights who had cross unknown space by mistake or something like that
And they found these people who were resistant to the force and they had their own type of magic
Hence why the beginning of the Sith lords
Cryogenics, like Han Solo, but further advanced so it does less harm to the body?
Might make a good story that whatever colony ship that came here became the astroid that killed the dinosaurs. Then whoever has possession of the force uses mind manipulation to erase the memories of those that survived leaving any tech, and ect hidden somewhere. We find it and read it's contents, the contents of the Star wars.
It may be more correct to say, "Does Earth exist yet?"
If "far far away" is more than billion lightyears, then a "long time ago" would predate the formation of the Earth.
The Star Wars galaxy would be much more densely populated with stars and this would support the case for several billions of years ago.
Depends on "Long time ago" how far back are we going... One can say "A long time go" there was Mammoths on Earth about 4,000 years ago or 12,000 years ago..
A lightyear is a measure of distance rather than time....
Much like a parsec 😉
@@fosyay1780 It is, but as light takes a year to travel a lightyear, events that take place far, far away will have no effect fort a long time.
For example, everyone is talking about the star Betelgeuse, which is expected to go supernova "soon" meaning likely within g the next 100 years.
If it does, this means that the star has already exploded. If it exploded 1382 then we should see it go some time next year.
So we would see the star go super nova in 202, even though it blew up a long time ago.
@erictaylor5462 Star Wars has hyperspace FTL travel as a concept though.
The key phrase that everyone misses is..."Long, long ago..." Meaning that all of Star Wars happened centuries ago or perhaps even longer. I always liked to believe that a group of human Star Wars characters eventually found their way to Earth, colonized it, basically creating the Earth native, which is why we get common words like "monkey" and "lizard."
I believe this was already discussed by Lucas in an interview a while ago that, YES, Earth does exist in the Star Wars Universe but if I remember correctly, our galaxy is like on the other side of the known universe.
If so, it means that laws of physics would be different from galaxy to galaxy. That alone, is a hard sell. But, one never knows.
@@Hammern28 Are you there to confirm us such?
@@Maddog-xc2zv Yes, I am there right now and can confirm that this is how it is.🙄🙄🙄
@@Hammern28 In the SW galaxy? man, you surely must be the first. good luck finfing your way back. Cheers
@@Maddog-xc2zvIt was amazing! There was a diner with a great apple pie, a surplus store with lotsa trooper armor, lotsa strange looking people... come to think of it... it could also have been a shopping mall in Denver, hard to tell these days
Wow. Another great video. The question of limitations/boundaries in storytelling is very interesting. I find that particularly the more fantastical worlds like the Star Wars galaxy or Middle-earth feel, on the surface, like imaginary sandboxes of limitless exploration, but it really is a challenge to expand upon established lore, magic systems, and world-building in a satisfying way without breaking the illusion.
Thanks! Yes, this is the kind of subject I'm really interested in and want to explore further on this channel.
This video goes way deeper into the storytelling than I thought it would and explained some things I never even thought about, like the distinction between fairy tales and traveller's tales.
Good stuff!
In Heir to the Empire, on page 17, there is the following conversation:
“Threepio cocked his head toward Luke’s cup. ‘Forgive me, sir…but may I ask what that is you’re drinking?’
‘This?’ Luke glanced down at his cup. ‘It’s just something Lando taught me how to make a while back.’
‘Lando?’ Threepio echoed, and there was no missing the disapproval in his voice. Programmed politeness or not, the droid never really cared for Lando. Which wasn’t surprising, given the circumstances of their first meeting.
‘Yes, but in spite of such shady origin, it’s really quite good,’ Luke told him. ‘It’s called hot chocolate.’”
If that isn’t a subtle nod to the audience that Earth exists, I don’t know what is.
Dude, C-3PO is racist?
@@Hello-bi1pmHuh? It says his dislike was due to how they met.
@Hello-bi1pm Getting blasted by stormtroopers, then nearly stuffed into an incinerator by the employees of a man who betrayed your friends might be somewhat predjudicial.
Try the original film novelization, Kenobi uses an analogy about ducks with Luke. To which Luke replies “…what’s a duck?” 😄
At some point some clone troopers in (Clone Wars TV show) series say "Draconic" at some point. I heard people say that term shouldn't exist unless Earth exists to some influential extent.
I remember reading some theory that the Star Wars galaxy is just Andromeda.
Andromeda isn't far far away though. It's our closest neighboring galaxy.
@@rockinray76it may be not far far away in terms of galaxies, but still pretty damn far
@@ilyalead4blade897 'A long, long time ago in a galaxy adjacent to ours, cosmically speaking, but still pretty freaking far away in terms of absolute distance: It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships--'
@@rockinray76 2,5 M light years away. Too close for the real Galaxy where SW happens, at least if some lose words in a considerable number of interviews given by Lucas are still canon. With Disney canon is money. Ironic as they cashed less at least on their last "lore" series than they received in return. Hopefully Kathleen Kennedy will be gone after the second quarter of next year. Her contract ends and that's it, no proposal on table for renovation (lots of money lost on this IP - and not only - and as they don't want to assume she meddled and crapped writing they're not get rid of her on cold blood but "killing" her softly).
"Andromeda isnt far far away" lel
My idea on how to connect this: the far future of the Star Wars universe is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The galaxy in the Guide is, as we know, ruled by an Imperial Galactic Government (with the Emperor being comatose for millennia) with, of course, no one knowing how it's actually run. What if that Imperial Galactic Government is some successor to the Galactic Empire? (say, the Fel Empire from Legends or a moderate offshoot of the First Order? And well, we all know how Earth and humanity came to be in the Guide.
Aw man, now I want to hear a certain Mr. Jones say, "So long, and thanks for all the fish."
And since there are no Force Sensitives native to Earth, the planet is considered mostly harmless.
Gorge Lucas said in an interview once that every one has the force they just have to train to use it some have it more than others but everyone is capable of using it
It's fun to catch one of these so early! You always have such a fresh and appealing wrapper round the questions you want to ask. Great channel. - N
Thanks for watching! I checked out your channel and I love your creativity in how to present to camera with different staging. Congrats on your success on the platform.
5:38 "Luke also speaks English" - In the Star Wars movies I've seen, he speaks German. I guess you've seen a version which was translated to English (from the Galactic Basic Standard original)?
It depends on how long ago. Earth may not have formed yet.
It is in fact, R2D2 and C3PO in Raiders of the Lost Ark; 20,000 years ago.
I think Lucas once stated that Battle of Yavin was around the time of Waterloo, but I might be wrong.
@@AdamGołębiewski-v1s Moses and Ark of the Covenant. That was Ark of the Covenant in Clone Wars before made it's way to Earth.
It's not cannon but Yoda and Darth Vader went to earth to beat demi god ass in soul calibur 4.
That crossover makes me wish namco could make a star wars fighting game.
Google "Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi"
I think starkiller is also in that game right?
@@Teamneoplasmaghetsis
Yes he's an unlockable character.
@@UNSCMarine117 How do I unlock him?
@@Teamneoplasmaghetsis
I think you just play though the arcade mode with either Darth Vader or Yoda. But sometimes it just doesn't trigger for some reason.
apparently Middle Earth does, too, hence Merry turning up
You are very concise and your voice is good for narration. I subscribed I hope to see more. Especially deep dives like this. It was excellent!
Fun fact there is a couple fanfictions out there where Star Wars discovers earth and one of them is set in the 1990s. That one is called the Terran Alliance series.
X-Jedi was a Star Wars/X-Files crossover that was pretty fun. But fanfic gets to break rules.
Nobody cares about fan-fiction. It's not official or canon.
@@DeadPixel1105 Many fans write or read fan fiction. It's for fun. We know it doesn't hold canon weight, but it is relevant enough for the comments section.
@@DeadPixel1105your sonic x shadow fan fiction didn’t get as many hits as you wanted to did it buddy?
Every beginning in all star wars movies.
"A Long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away"
So yes they have Earth in the Star wars universe. But that will be in their future
Yeah man so actually he says that 14 seconds into the video believe it or not
@@MrStarman926yep we know and this video didn’t need to be 10 minutes long
One of the best channels on RUclips right now
Thanks for saying so! Nice to hear people out there are enjoying the channel so far.
If it increases Disney stock value, then yes, Earth exists in the Star Wars universe
well that all comes down to this guy's youtube channel name - The Art of Storytelling. It doesn't matter where a story takes place - just as long as it's a good story and makes sense within the perimeters of what was set up by the creators...to paraphrase what he said you just can't have a Jedi showing up waving a wand and casting a spell on a Sith Lord...cause those Sci-Fi rules were already established. I mean if you think about it that's what turned a LOT of people off on the sequel trilogy. Rey just started using the Force like if it were magical powers with no basis of how or why or where she even got them. Disney stock would be up a LOT more had they paid more attention to Sci-Fi rules. Same thing for Warner Bros right now. If you include things in your story that are normally NOT there, nor never have been, say like your main characters / villains are now ummm i dunno... singing and dancing 😬...then it's just gonna turn a LOT of people off and said company doesn't profit and stocks go down down down.
@@TheFroneyZone The sequels made billions of dollars. Quite literally some of the most successful films in the history of cinema, so your argument that their rule-breaking stories turned "a LOT" of people off on the sequel trilogy is downright farcical.
@@spiffyspaceman compare it to the money made in the first two trilogies at todays rate and the sequels box office were a flop
Considering most of the characters are human, yes, Earth exists.
I love how the scroll of Episode XIV starts with "Somehow"
I forget the exact line, but in the original novelization of Star Wars, Obi-Wan says something like, "water off a duck's back" or maybe it was, "ducks in a row." But Han asks, "What's a duck?" Some fans have taken this to mean that Obi-Wan has knowledge of Earth and the life on it.
Or maybe it was foreshadowing a movie George would make in 1986.
Does planet Cleave-Land exist in Star Wars universe?
That's a great galaxy and the language is the same as ours even if it is not supposed to be. How the hell do they know falcons to baptize the highly modified freighter as millennium FALCON? wow maybe Lando has some knowledge of Earth's wild life... Ridiculous...
Remember, Obi-wan referenced an "earth duck" on the Millennium Falcon to Luke.
The answer was clear in the very first Star wars with the words "A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away". Earth is in the Milky Way Galaxy, Star wars is not the Milky Way Galaxy. Could be The Andromeda Galaxy, Or The Cigar Galaxy. Because it was a long time ago, it possibly even be The Black Eye Galaxy.
Nice analysis. Before “a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…” the original 1976 trailer began “somewhere in space, this may all be happening right now”. So not necessarily long ago, but that concept of distance separating these events within a shared universe was there.
Yup. Far, far away!!
Good video.
'that move is one in a million.'
'got it- we make a million unpiloted drones that go light speed I'm on it!'
Spielberg ( Very good friend of Lucas ) said indirectly that the galaxy of Star Wars could be Andromeda, our neighbor galaxy.
2.5M ly away? It's plausible but I believe mainly by lose words of Lucas that the SWU Galaxy would be even farther away, much farther
@@Maddog-xc2zv Carl Sagan said that Star Wars galaxy couldn't be so far far FAR away because the dominant spiece are humans. 😁
My theory has always been that Humans eventually leave the galaxy on large void craft and eventually settle in our current galaxy on the one planet that supports life here
In the novelization of A New Hope, Obi-Wan says to Luke, "Even a duck needs to be taught how to swim." To which Luke replies, "What's a duck?" Obi-Wan then replies, "Nevermind." It's a bit of levity in the novel meant to briefly lighten it up. However it's something left out of the movie primarily because it does take the movie watchers out of the lore and left to ponder...even if just for a second.
Yes. Earth is in a galaxy far far away.
This is so wild because when I was a kid in the 80s riding Star Tours you couldn't convince me that I didn't just go into outer space and almost die multiple times on a space cruiser.
Yes. "A Galaxy Far, Far Away." Away from whom? US! The viewer! This has also been tackled in the old fiction, when Indiana Jones found Han Solo's crashed ship on Earth.
a galaxy away from the US is a galaxy away from the entire earth
@@kostan55 Thanks for rewording what I said.
What if the Star Wars characters are human because, in ancient times, a civilization secretly advanced into space and left the Milky Way to join the Star Wars galaxy?
I’ve always assumed that humans and English in Star Wars were a convention of the storytelling: the language, name and appearance of the dominant species in galactic politics (and the species of our main characters) is represented by humans speaking English purely for convenience and so that the audience can better relate to them. Similarly I assume that names like “Skywalker” and “Savage Opress” are attempts to translate names rather than the actual sounds they used to refer to themselves. The actual “Luke” may have had orange scales and tentacles and been called something unpronounceable in a language as foreign to us as Shyriiwook.
Yeah, Tolkien did the same thing with the language, though even more intentionally, as he was a linguist. He represented the common language Westron as English, but explicitly made it clear that that's not actually what it is, and that e.g. the hobbit names too are just English representations that are quite different from the actual names.
I really appreciate this vid. Thanks for making it
Does anyone remember the Masters Of The Universe (1987) movie, where they brought He-Man to Earth..?
Yeah, very dissappointing.
Love that film. It was panned by critics and fans, but I still love it.
Yeah, a great movie :)
@@adnaanu It was fun for what it was, but as kid who watched the cartoons I wanted a movie set in Eternia.
Also in the cartoon, Earth people went to Eternia.
As a child I always thought the Star Wars saga would end on how humans got to Earth and forgot the Force…
It always eats at me. How far back is it? What’s going on with us while the events of Star Wars is happening? I need answers!
It's deliberately vague. George wanted a myth.
you could argue that the events of Star Wars happened at the time of ice age on Earth, for example, or even the during the Jurassic if you want. The point is that enough time has gone by for the Star Wars Universe to be separate from real Earth, even though it is confirmed that Earth does exist in Star Wars.
This reminds me of that meme.
Han tells Obi Wan that his ship is called the Millennium Falcon.
Obi Wan asks, "What's a falcon?"
Han says, "I don't know."
Very interesting, even for someone not very much into Star Wars. Thanks.
Cool, glad you enjoyed :)
I've always thought it'd be funny to see how anthropologists in the star wars galaxy would react to finding humans on some random Bluemilk planet in the milky way for some reason.😂
That story about the Falcon crashing on Earth is from the Star Wars Tales comic series, and it isn't considered canon.
Yeah…he said that.
Eww a furry.
No, and that's one of the things that drew me in as a child. The absence of earth made Star Wars even more mysterious to me as a kid in 1977. Disney, however, wants you to forget all about that.
I know the E.T. connection is likely just cross-cameos for fun and not rooted in canon, but personally I like to believe that they do in fact take place in the same universe. It could even be that E.T.'s ability to make the bike float was a basic usage of the Force. The hardest thing to explain would be the Yoda costume though; it implies that if Star Wars really happened in the E.T. universe, it also somehow exists as fiction on Earth despite technically counting as non-fiction history.
Regarding the genre, it's often regarded as a "space opera" and I've also heard the term "science fantasy". Personally I'd say that Star Wars primarily counts as fantasy with sci-fi as a subgenre. The sci-fi elements are there, but they are secondary to the fantasy elements. In a way you could say that Star Wars is cut from the same cloth as the Arthurian legend of Camelot, but with a sci-fi twist to it.
That's easy to explain, George got Journal of the Whills from E.T. alien
Or Lord of the Rings, kind of.
I came for the short answer, stayed for the long answer.
Yes of course it does. But in a galaxy far far away from the Star Wars Gakaxy and dinosaurs may still be roaming the Earth at that time.
More like the sun wasn't even formed yet boy.
Inter galactic distances are stupidly comically large.
@akale2620 I've had some people think along time ago. Meant the Revolutionary War was going on during the Star Wars films. I laughed at them. Because to them that was a long time ago. You may be correct about our sun mot being formed yet. But dinosaurs were still millions of years ago. Or I at least give the benefit of the doubt and say Earth is still a hot molten orb spinning around our not so old sun
I appreciate you addressing the rancor in the room in the very beginning.
4:20 I would ABSOLUTELY watch Rey Goes to New York
You know what? You’re absolutely right.
Star Wars "The Empire takes Manhattan"
E.T visited earth and recognized Yoda's species, because a kid was dressed like him for Halloween.
"in a galaxy far far away' implies the existence of Earth. Otherwise, what does "far away" even mean?
Imagine if they did a final trilogy and at the very end of the final movie, R2D2 arrives on Earth and goes dormant for many years only to be uncovered by a small, bearded child. R2 awakens, and them unloads the Journal of the Whills onto the boy.
IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY
so the answer is clearly yes and that the story took place in our universe's history
Great show. Glad I ran across your channel
In Andor, there is a moment you meet some clumsy looking aliens that clearly are actors in costumes…. And it massively broke my suspension of disbelief out of Andor! I had to remind myself that this is Star Wars!
Should have used current advanced CGI and this would never happen 😂 This luddism of sticking to people in costumes just because the OT did it is absurd
They've used actors in costumes with some robotic parts to move the face in every single live action Star Wars project recently. There's even a scene in Mandalorian where a small alien is sliding across a table like a puppet, clearly being pulled by someone and no one complained. And when they do use CGI people complain about it for certain characters, Yoda was CG in the prequels and people didn't like it, so in The Last Jedi they made him a puppet again.
Which part are u talking abt? There was literally 3 scenes with aliens. Only one had more than one alien in frame and none of them were the focus. You'd really have to be SEARCHING thru the background to notice something like that.
And I'm pretty sure he just means the girl with an alien head in Mon Mithmas apartment. They don't look any worse than the original or prequel aliens, which were also obviously costumes.
Yet when they CGI a whole alien like Zeb everyone complains they should stick to practical effects
@sodaman8888 bro exactly lol. Dude probably had to pause it to notice anything even slightly off. There's one alien I think he might be talking about, bc none of the other aliens that are costumes are ever in frame for longer than a second or 2.. And its like. Yea it's a lady in a costume. They're all actors in costumes. It doesn't LOOK like a costume except the fact we know it's a costume lol. Ppl really just look for any reason to complain at this point.
I find it hilarious there's a whole class of people who LEGITIMATELY have not liked any star wars release since empire strikes back. They think return of the jedi was lame. Hate the prequels. Don't like anything disney has released. Yet still go on the internet and complain about every subsequent release. Comb every frame to find a flaw. It's crazy to me
When the prequels do CGI, it's too much cgi and we need more practical effects. When disney does practical effects, it doesn't look real enough we need CGI. What happened to just watching a show and absorbing the story?
This is my story. In the Star Trek Universe, before the Federation existed and before ships had magnetic shields, a group of Earthlings found a wormhole that took them to the Star Wars Galaxy many years into the past. But the wormhole moved before they could return, so they were stranded. There they found the Planet Coruscant and colonized it because it was uninhabited. And so this is why humans are existing a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. And why the ships in Star Wars don't have magnetic shields.
that wormhole was opened by a StarGate by any change?
If earth does exist in the Star Wars universe then does that make Star Wars a documentary?
I don’t think Transformers, which took place on Earth itself was a documentary so the answer to that is probably no.
I like this analysis. I think that there has always been a yearning among Star Wars fans to see the stories of everyday people within the Star Wars galaxy. I assume that this stems from a desire to more easily see how we as fans would fit within the galaxy far, far away.
I mean, the obvious answer is yes, it does. In a galaxy far, far away.
Also this is an interesting video. Just so you know I didn’t only comment before I saw it
a long time from "now."
I swear to god, when i was a kid, in the 80s, i read a star wars marvel comic where they said that earth was destroyed in the clone wars.
I havent been able to find it
Great video, thank you
Given that the opening crawl explicitly states "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" I think they answer is fairly obvious.
The thing with andor is that sure its good but star wars is at its best as a fantasy. Sure that fantasy story can be and has been mishandled.
But stories like the clone wars and star wars rebels are masterclasses in using fantastical elements as wonderful philosophical anologies, all the while covering grounded problems of corruption, distrust and the need for hope.
I like some Star Wars stories exploring the non mystical sides of Star Wars. My issue with Andor is it corrupts the Rebellion. Good and evil aren't limited to Jedi. If the Rebellion doesn't represent "good", then it's just a power struggle where I have no reason to invest in the outcome.
@@TheChristianPsychopath huh that's interesting that's actually one of my favourite parts of Andor, I really enjoy the complexity.
I mean that show while showing flaws of the rebellion it goes hard on the true vileness of the empire even to those who serve it.
For the rebels it's more of a question of how they fight not whether they fight. Cause the empire (facism) has to go but how it is done is not simple.
Heck even the fantastical parts of star wars explore that, The Bendu, different force cultures like the night sisters and the lasat, or even the creatures who seem to use the force like loth-wolves and the purgill.
Each view and use the force very differently from the strict views of the Jedi, and most aren't portrayed as evil.
This complexity doesn't mean the Jedi were evil or maybe even wrong in some aspects of the force but there is complexeties and ambiguity on the right choice, even when evil is very clear.
@@ShayanQ Complexity is one thing, but Luthen giving villain monologues with Vader shadow and Mon Mothma selling her daughter to cover up money laundering isn't complexity so much as moral erosion.
Plenty of corrupt governments have been over thrown to be replaced by equally corrupt government, so you need the Rebels to offer something better.
I'm hoping season two will correct this issue. Moral struggles are one thing. The idea that anything I do is fine because the other guy is bigger is an ends justifies the means attitude that does not feel very Star Wars.
And I'm not saying you can't have some morally gray characters, or good guys who struggle with where the line is. But tossing the line completely like that the only option rubs very wrong.
@@TheChristianPsychopath fair enough, I am also hoping for a mon mothma redemption arc, especially to line up with who she is in rebels, though I am not sure if Luther is ever gonna end up better
@@ShayanQ I don't mind Luthen being Luthen as long as some other rebel leader (or Mon Mothma) steps up to counter balance.
"A long time ago" was around the 16th century, when Soul Calibur 4 took place.
I did read this and it stated that the Battle of Yavin took place around 1500 AD for us Earthlings
I did read this and it stated that the Battle of Yavin took place around 1500 AD for us Earthlings
@@mrdreloaded4049 Can't believe SoulCalibur 4 is canon to Star Wars! It's not even canon to SoulCalibur!
It is in a Galaxy many Light Years away,and the events happen a long time ago.
A long time ago can be 2 Billion Years ago, or 1,977 Years ago. In an other Galaxy far far Away can mean 1.5 Light Years away, or 900 Billion Light Years away. They could need 100% the Speed of Light to travel to Earth in Year of 4,000 BC ,or 10,000% time the Seed of Light to get to Earth in the Year of 3,492 AD .
Or they just need a zpm or a naquadria planet, plus the correct sequence of chevrons, to dial the Earth's gate from Skyriver
I always thought that having a Klingon in the background would have been fun 😅
Yes. In a galaxy far far away.
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" implies that we're either of extraterrestrial origin and somehow got to this planet and got separated from the rest of humanity, or we are in fact from Earth and already once built a spacefaring civilization which collapsed without a trace.
they tell us that the star wars saga takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."
People who deny that star wars is sci fi are over thinking the subject.
No one denies its scifi
No, they've thought about it for more than five minutes. It's science fantasy, nothing in it is based on any real science. And that's not to its detriment either, it's just a different kind of story.
I remember in one mission in Dark Forces, if you no clip outside the map you can see earth.
Not only was the Holdo "Maneuver" clearly 1 in a million, there was an entire movie about how a literal queen couldn't afford a hyperdrive. The US isn't gonna Kamikaze cutting edge stealth fighters into the middle east.
Interesting take. I'd like to respectfully rebut, and acknowledge that I am ignorant to a lot of Star Wars lore. But aren't hyperdrives everywhere? Doesn't Luke have one in his scrappy little X-wing? And Han in his "bucket of bolts" cargo ship? Doesn't every single ship that travels between systems have one? Seems like they'd be more like common than you suggest, even if they are hard to purchase on Tatooine. As for the maneuver being a fluke, the movie sure doesn't frame it that way. It's more like "she's doing something crazy" rather than "this is extremely unlikely to work". What exactly makes it one in a million? Don't you just point the ship at another ship and hit the gas? Finally, isn't the Battle Of Yavin the defining battle of that era? I mean, it's "year zero" on the calendar. Seems like it's not just some inconsequential war theatre. I thought destroying the Death Star was critical for the survival of the rebellion? You don't think they'd sacrifice one hyperdrive/cruiser to destroy it? After all "many people lost their lives" even just getting the technical readouts. Anyway, thanks for watching and for your comment. It's an interesting discussion!
@@theartofstorytelling1Luke's "Scrappy little X-Wing" is a cutting edge military fighter designed for the empire and only in rebel hands because the empire rejected it for the cheaper TIE Fighter (with no hyperdrive) and the rebels got their hands on them. The rebels often don't really need to worry about price for things they can steal from the empire.
Additionally, the Last Jedi includes several details which give clues as to why the Holdo maneuver worked there but not in general. Mainly, the fact that the Supremacy's Hyperspace Tracking Technology worked by keeping part of the ship in both Hyperspace and real space simultaneously. You'll also notice that when she hits the Supremacy, you can still see the stretched stars through the bridge. We only see this during the transition from real to Hyperspace and back again, while during the actual Hyperspace part of the journey we see a more Dr Who Intro type blue swirly thing. I think what is most likely is that she hit the Supremacy (which is in between Hyperspace and real space due to the tracking technology) while her own ship was also between real space and Hyperspace.
That Queen could have afforded the hyperdrive, it's just that Watto wouldn't accept that money, and converting it to local currency would have costed more than that money was worth. Outside of Hutt Space the Queen could have easily purchased a hyperdrive, and that is despite the fact that the hyperdrive in question is, based on how expensive the rest of the Queen's ship looks, probably a rather rare and expensive one. In fact, the 20 000 credits the Queen had could have brought five of those hyperdrives, as each of them costed 4 000 credits. This means that hyperdrives are actually rather cheap and widely available, given that even a planet with a population of 80 000 to 200 000 had that specific hyperdrive model available.
Sources: Legends Wookieepedia articles on Watto, T-14 hyperdrive generator and Tatooine.
Not only does E.T. travel from the Star Wars galaxy to Earth. He arrives at Earth within a few years of a movie being released on Earth which coincidentally depicts people and events from his galaxy accurately. He even plays with 'Star Wars' action figures based on some of these people. Like imagine if you suddenly travelled to another galaxy today, and your hosts told you a movie had just been released about the events of the Second World War, and gave you a toy Winston Churchill action figure to play with - and they had no idea any of this had actually happened on your planet.
Only problem is if it really is supposed to exist, wouldn’t they have found us by now in canon with the Hyperspeed technology?
It's still REALLY hard to leave the galaxy, they don't know much about what's outside their own galaxy (over half the star wars galaxy itself is completely unmapped and nearly impossible to access). With how long it takes light to travel between universes. Even 100 million years could pass they still might not be here yet, theoretically. That's based on what we know abt our own galaxy and physics. Unless they were like one galaxy over, it could take billions of years even going at lightspeed
What if the other galaxy in the Ahsoka series is the Milky Way?
In one of the prequel Galactic Senate scenes you can see a delegation of the aliens that encountered Elliot in E.T.
1. Distance
2. Barrier around the Galaxy
@@AdamGołębiewski-v1s Isn't the galactic barrier a Star Trek concept? Or does Star Wars have one too?
If you're bringing the theme parks into it, there's also the fact that Coca-Cola and Sprite are part of Star Wars canon.
i seriously thought you were ewan mcgregor for a minute! you look so much like attack of the clones obi wan 😊
Best compliment I've ever received lol
Tarzan clearly influenced the Wookiee battle cry so they must have watched at least one Johnny Weissmuller movie.
1:58 same 😆
I read the Star Wars novel back when it came out. So it's been a while. But I remember Ben mentioned something about a duck. And Luke asked, "What's a duck?"
Yes this is confirmed with E.T.s species
and the millennium falcon fighting along the Federation in Star Trek against the Borg? but just one ship, they weren't close friends, less even allies
If Star Wars happened “A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….” Wouldn’t that make the living force real for Earth too in the present day?
Well E.T. was on earth and his race was in starwars.
again cameos to attract more viewers and thus more money. who forgot the millennium falcon joining in star trek against the borg? and why only that ship? only Han was friend with Wolf whatever? Poorly convincing
Steven Spielberg told you in the beginning. "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...."
Good video, but as for the future of the franchise...eugh, just leave it alone now. Star Wars has been flogged to death over and over at this point, let's get the industry allowing new and genuinely creative fresh ideas and proper writers, artists and craftspeople to create great new things again.