20 Crazy Things I Used to Believe When I was An Evangelical Christian (1 of 2)
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- As a former Evangelical Christian I often think back on the crazy things I once believed that I no longer believe now, though at the time it all seemed very normal.
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It takes a lot of courage to reflect and question one’s beliefs, especially to then admit one was mistaken. You seem like an authentic and kind person. New sub and look forwards to hearing more of your experiences.
Thank you Brett! It’s been a journey for sure!
As a Christian, I'm glad I stumbled on this genuine heartfelt video. Thank you for sharing your personal views and thoughts. It's really quite fascinating and interesting to hear from your journey and I'm looking forward to hearing about it more as you reveal more of it.
Despite this though my prayer is, love and peace to you from our Lord and saviour Jesus, that by his grace god willingly, he may use this even as a testimony for his glory and reveal himself to you in a personal manner.
Non-believer you say? Welcome to the light my friend.
Tim keep up the good work ,your helping a lot of people deconstruct from delusion ,im from ireland and find your talks amazing
That part about Jesus dying for our sins never sounded quite as ridiculous as it did when you were describing it here. And there was NEVER a time when I didn’t think it sounded ridiculous.
You certainly took it to another level, brother!
😂😂😂
Awesome video, sir.
I love the plants in the background!
Thank you. That would be my wife's green thumb!
I am cracking up right now because when you started talking about speaking in tongues I accidently pressed the speed button on the video and you started speaking a little faster. I am dying LMFAO! Sorry, but that was funny! Great video!
Perfect example of the sins of the church ruining the true image of Jesus. Sad to see.
As a believer, I appreciate your honesty. I grew up in church and thought I was a christian for many years. It wasn't until one night when I was 31 y.o. that I received the Holy Spirit and everything changed in an instant. I cried for four hours nonstop. Nothing has been the same since. For years I tried to hold onto faith by my own power, and found it impossible at times. I no longer deal with that. I can hear the sincerity in your voice and it saddens me, because I've been on the edge of where you are presently. I'm praying that God will reveal Himself to you and remove all doubt while there's still time. Being honest with yourself is a big step, and I see that in you. Take care, my friend.
I know what you're saying. The personal relationship with God, through the Holy Spirit is enough to keep you from backsliding. When He spoke to me personally, after transforming my heart with a feeling of peace, joy and love, its what also stops me from ever doubting who He is.
Thank you for your kindness. It's always refreshing when a Believer responds like you, rather than like some of the wing-nuts who are just so unchristian. Like spewing judgement, hell, and hate on someone is going to cause them to be interested at all in Christianity. Keep being kind.
Doesn't the fact that you thought you knew Jesus for years betray the fact that, at the very least, your God has a terribly ineffective way of communicating.
No. When I actually received the Holy Spirit there was no mistaking it. No matter what happens, I could never go back. It's something you'll never understand until you've gone through it.
@jdbargeron1 you don't think its a problem that the Holy Spirit communicates so subjectively?
You are freaking me out! I was part of that cult, not because I believed it, just because I was an obedient wife. Just recently I went to a yardsale at the church I was involved with long ago. I couldn't stand it! I had to leave, it sickened me to be there and remembering all the garbage they taught.
Growing up in a family church, it was apparent that many of the congregation was more about status rather than beliefs. I challenged family constantly about Contradictions in the Bible and in their actions. Now I have been out as an atheist for ten years and much more aesthetic in my life. Keep up the good vibes.
Samuel Clemens said, "Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool." As a 13 year old I found it hard to believe the Southern Baptist church I attended when they said black people couldn't go to heaven because they didn't have souls. You know that evangelicals will say you weren't truly saved because once saved always saved. Religion has one forte ... comforting words to people experiencing loss, illness and separation.
When I read about the christian god commanding to kill every man, woman, & child (and the animals) of certain people groups, my soul just knew I could no longer defend it.
A lot of christians believe people turn away because of the devil.... but in all reality ex-christians leave because of the evils commanded in the bible.
I couldn't morally defend it anymore.
I'm glad you could see through it from a young age 🙏🙏
It’s really amazing that you spent so much time and effort “believing” as you did to eventually realize that much of what you were taught to believe is false. I was brought up in a similar way as yourself, then went to college and eventually determined that most of what I was taught is nonsense. And like you, for me, there is no going back. And like you, I don’t try to convince anyone from my earlier years to think like I do now. It really takes a lot of critical thinking and introspection to get away from the Christian lifestyle. I have a lot of family down in South Georgia and I consider them to be lost and victims of culture. I get why you’re agnostic. It’s the logical position since one cannot prove or disprove the existence of god. I consider myself agnostic as well since the concept of “god” just no longer is part of how I think about this reality. I don’t have beliefs either. There are things I know, things I don’t know and things I can never know and that’s ok. If I’m interested in knowing about something, I’ll research the topic and learn enough to be satisfied. For things I cannot know, I have theories for possibilities, but I don’t establish any belief for any nebulous topic. It is a strange reality we live in though. Welcome to reality, whatever it is.
Well said! And thank you for commenting. Life is a journey of self discovery for sure! I have more to learn and unlearn.
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, look forward to hearing more.
sorry I am commenting so much but your video is bringing so much to my mind so many things to think about. Anyway I was interested on why people really believe they speaking in tongues. How does that work psychologically? little kids are doing it people are shaking crying. it's quite compelling. Did you think you were really doing or did you know you really weren't???? Thank you ❤
I’m planning on a video just on Prayer, including speaking in tongues! And yes, at the time I really believed it all, deeply.
Many people have a certain set of consonants and vowel combinations that repeat often once they feel comfortable enough and figure out how to go into a hypnotic state. I have body memory now after doing it so much, that I can snap right back into it using the same gibberish "word" patterns.
It is incredibly hypnotic and I think that's why it is so appealing to some people. It felt other-worldly when I was doing it, but that was because I believed it was the spirit of god taking over my body.
Once I figured out my own comfortable gibberish patterns though, after awhile I could fake the hypnotic state. Deep down I knew I was consciously doing it and I was doing it to feel part of the "anointed"/"special" group of people.
I was able to since I was 8! If you see your parents/community do it consistently, a child will want to copy it.
@@tarah.1648 very interesting thank you for sharing that.
@@tarah.1648 I had a church recently try and tell me I wasn't saved and didn't have the Holy Spirit or even know what the Holy Spirit was without being able to and would pray over me ECT but I didn't believe them bc the Holy Spirit is how I got saved so I knew him already and what it was like to feel it. I thought I could just ignore them but I kept noticing more and more red flags so I stopped going and then the pastor began harassing me and my husband with phone calls and texts.
@@bathtoygangmember course!
A reaction video of one of your old sermons would be great!
Especially if you remember what inspired it/which parts you were convinced of and which parts were stocking stuffers 😄
Lmao!
What was the name of your church? What town were you in?
I’m so glad I found you! Still trying to have a clear brain after being raised southern Baptist and exposed to Speaking in tongues (which I never figured out)
Thank you so much! More videos to come.
I love seeing former believers graduate and blossom into the truth.
@@tayrowell Me too!
@timmygibsonkc here's a fact,,,,you will die in your natural body and be raised in your spiritual body to be judged to life or to damnation ,,,you turn on him ,thats your decision
As a Christian, some of these things sound nutty to me. Not all Christians are culty or speak in tongues. I am intrigued as to what you do believe now. God created us to love one another, and Judgement is His. It is not for us to decide who is worthy. I pray for blessings upon you.
Evangelicals are extreme. I grew up in an Evangelical church. I'm no longer religious but I realize not all forms of Christianity are that extreme.
I’ll be sharing more of my story! And thank you very much!
@@hollyjean237 True.
I'm confused. I understand the things you used to believe in. But exactly what do you believe in in relation to God now?
Belief is so often the death of reason.
Qyburn, Game of Thrones.
Hey there. I am enjoying your perspective very much even though I am a Christian. I have only been a Christian for maybe 5 or 6 yearsish. I was completely against Christianity my whole life and my mother is Wiccan. I became a Christian in a strange way. I was alone at work late at night trimming weed on the pot farm I worked on. I don't smoke and I wasn't on anything but what I now know as the Holy Spirit came upon me and it was the craziest thing that ever happened to me. I know you don't believe anymore and that's ok with me just thought I would give some background on me. Any way I feel as though I enjoy your videos on this topic bc there were so many things once i became a Christian that didn't seem Biblical or make sense to me. Like the not having value thing. If we didn't have value why would Jesus do what he did for us. Or the women being less than thing it says no jew gentile man or woman... so meaning we are all equal. So I like listening to you because it helps me with things I don't want to fall into and be aware of. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
You are a wise person indeed! Though I am no longer a Christian, there are good people in that world who never get weird like I did. The world I was in was/is definitely goofy.
You are very open minded and that's awesome! We can all disagree on religion and still have a lot to learn from each other. ❤️❤️❤️🙏
New subscriber here! I came from Cults to Consciousness. Shelise Ann Sola is amazing, don't you agree? Loved your interview there. Just a note, call yourself whatever you want to my friend. You do you. Personally, I'm an agnostic atheist. The two terms are not mutually exclusive. I am an atheist because I do not hold a belief in a god or gods. I am agnostic because I cannot make a definitive claim to have knowledge that there is or is not a god or gods. It goes back to the Latin roots of the words. Take the word atheism and break it down into it's basic parts: "A"(denoting the absence of) -"Theism" ( so atheism is the absence of theistic belief in the existence of a god or gods). BELIEF being the key word here. The root word "Gnostic" relates to KNOWLEDGE claims. I don't have definitive proof or evidence (thereby KNOWLEDGE) that no god or gods exist and so I am agnostic. Generally, though, I think the bible makes an excellent doorstop.
It is all good, everyone has to make their choice. However, you still believe my man. You now just believe in yourself and that you are right. Everyone believes in something
Thank you for your honesty. I thumbs up and subscribed. I would love to hear more about your deconstruction experience. I think as you share your journey your channel will blow up.
Thank you. It’s taken me a few years to get clear on so many things, and I plan to share my journey in an attempt help those with a similar story. I appreciate the vote of confidence!
Jesus’s biggest enemies were the Pharisees.
This comment section is upsetting but Timmy's answers back are great.
Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I’m so glad I came across your channel! I came from a church that spoke in tongues and when I told them my past the one person said “so demonic” and that stuck with me because I know me and my friends aren’t demonic??? so it’s refreshing seeing your page and hearing your story! Thank you so much ❤
I’d like to add that the person referred to my homosexual “lifestyle” as demonic
Thank you so much Taylor! I have a lot to say, stay tuned!
Thanks for sharing. So you have given up Christ altogether? Or just evangelical Christianity?
In all honesty I do not consider myself a Christian, but as a person of history I find Jesus fascinating and most his teaches to be awesome. Like Loving your neighbor, taking care of the least of these, kindness, forgiveness, mercy etc. but is/was Jesus the son of the one true God? I don’t believe so. But that’s just my opinion and I could be wrong. Thank you for asking.
How did life begin? How did the first atoms form?
Let me help. WE DON'T KNOW. (The life question anyway. We know how the first atoms formed. The abundance and ratio of light elements is proof of the big bang)
Saying WE DON'T KNOW THERFORE GOD adds no additional information.
I bet we will answer the life question in the next 50 years. We now have evidence from Mars that organic compounds, the building blocks of life, are the result of sunlight breaking down CO2 in a CO2 rich atmosphere.
Are you aware that it is totally acceptable ( and even admirable ) to admit we do not know and to try to find out? So much better than just making shit up.😂
How the first atoms formed is well understood. It's part of the proof of the big bang, that the models of the process result in the correct ratios of the light elements.
As for abiogenesis, there is much research ongoing and new findings come out almost weekly. We will figure this out eventually.
I would not hang my hat on a god of the gaps argument. Most of the historical gaps have already been filled by science. Chances are high that trend will continue.
And in no way does requiring a god to explain the unknown get you specifically to the Christian version.
@@tonymiller3788 Fool.
@@Mando-d4k you're hilarious. An ad hominem attack does nothing to refute what I said. Try actually studying and learning something new and then coming back with a valid refutation.
Oh yes, absolutely. Did you forget that "Rock music is of the devil" and Led Zeplin used to perform "satanic rituals". I actually meet Robert Plant on a regular basis and a nice person you could not wish to meet.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Oh gosh! I do remember all that “satanic music” of the 80’s …. 😂😅🤦🏼♂️
Your upbringing sounds very familiar to mine. Wouldn’t mind getting together sometime to discuss
I am so glad I found you. After listening to you and your journey, you are helping me to feel okay about mine. Thank you!
That means a lot Wendy! This is exactly why I am opening up about my journey!
It’s funny you mentioned speaking in tongues. My adventures in the Pentecostal Church. The girls would pray with me for hours so I’d speak in tongues. Few days of the praying.I” spoke in tongues” it sounded just like you. 😉
So funny! 😂
tHE DEVIL NEEDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU BRO, GOOD LUCK
Hmmmm ... Of course YOU think that. You sound just like all the fundamental christians.
Thank you Timmy! The world needs you! Get your story out because people need to be free from religious beliefs.
It's funny that an omnipotent god can't handle one measly person being honest.
@@tonymiller3788 Thank you Tony! It’s so nice to be free from believing in things that aren’t true, and discovering the endless possibilities in reality.
@@anthonymaniacimusic2336 😂
LOL so does Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
I know you will be at peace like the rest of us who found their way out of supernatural belief systems. It's nice here. Welcome!
PS - can't wait to hear your story
Topics - so many but these 2 are close to me: 1) adherence to your core life principles without needing a god at the helm, and 2) the day you realized in concrete terms that you longer believed
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Great topics I’ve given my thoughts to indeed! And yes, I have more peace in my life than I ever had before. It’s wonderful.
Dude I just subscribed. I was an evangelical spirit filled fundy 40 years ago. Deconstructed and then circled back around and discovered gnostic christianity. All the scriptures that were banned from the canonical bible. And boy what an eye opening experience. Jesus was not who the church or evangelicals say he was. I can't speak for every person who identifies as a gnostic christian, but based on what I am hearing you say in these videos, you've discovered gnosis and the things you are saying are basically what gnostic christians believe. I don't pray either. The kingdom is within you!
have you taken a look at the ideas of theistic evolution? I grew up believing lots of the young earth anti-dinosaur stuff, but have been confronted by the evidence of evolution and think it is very compatible with (especially the Hebrew writing and it’s cultural context) Just maybe look into it a bit, consider watching some videos from people like inspiringphilosophy or Michael heiser on RUclips. Praying for you
There are a lot of these “crazy things” that I don’t accept (or at least how you word them) and I think many other Christian denominations or Biblical interpretations would say the same. Open to conversation!
God does answer prayers, IF AND ONLY you beleive you received it. He has healed me miraculously (sciatica), showed Himself to me 3 times, so don't say He doesn't answer prayers.
Tell me, is your god all knowing, including of the future?
Is he all powerful such that his will must be done in all circumstances?
Is he unchanging?
If you answer yes to all 3, please explain to me how prayer even makes sense. Did your petitions cause god to change his mind somehow? Or was everything that happened always part of his plan? If so, your prayers are meaningless puppetry to the grand puppetmaster.
So, by that logic (or lack thereof) the guy who dies from bone cancer didn't believe hard enough for his prayers to be answered. And how to this god "show" himself to you? A vision? A dream? Tea leaves? Do tell.
@@RMW565 can you list all the possible natural ways you could have recovered from sciatica and how you eliminated them as a possibility?
The problem is the "religion", not Jesus.
The problem is it is not true. None of it.
@@mx500a4 Honestly, I can agree with that statement. If Jesus is in Heaven seated at the right hand of God looking down over us he is saying, “WTF! They got it all wrong! They missed my message completely… they should love one another!” But clearly too many Christians have missed the point, just read the comments from “Christians” so unchristian, mean, unloving, critical, judgmental, … so unattractive in their talk. PS I used to race motocross back in the late 90’s! Woot woot!
@timmygibsonkc Yea, I hear ya. We all fall short, that's for dang sure.
Bro, I started racing motocross at 13 years old and raced until I was about 25-26. Then I decided to give cross country racing a go, I fell in love with it. I actually found it more fun than grinding out motos, for 15-20 minutes. I started getting really good at it too then my wife made me quit because all my buddies kept getting hurt. She's right though, I'm 38 now and it's just not worth the risk. I hope and pray you come back to Jesus one day brother.
@@mx500a4 So cool bro! Now just have a Custom Bobber!
I’m curious to know what lead you to become a “Christian” in the first place. If it was genuinely in faith and a true encounter with God and the Holy Spirit what lead you to abandon your faith in the first place? I would assume that the actuality of having a genuine encountering and relationship with God it would be difficult to leave him. Unless you never really genuinely believed ? Also your beliefs in speaking in tongues is not based on true doctrine and what is actually written in the bible. It seems as though there was a gap in your understanding of the Bible and the word of God.
I was born on the church pew, as they say. It was all I ever knew until I turned 49, then I started opening my eyes.
ah it's your spirit communicating. interesting. well it would be odd thinking of it that way that the Heavenly Language would be so simple with no discerning aspects of what makes a language. Fascinating.
Hell was the first step for me as well. Seeing my pentecostal grandfather trying to rationalise how his father who died atheist could have been saved his father from death. It ruined him. Brah i remember when our family had these pain filled conversations of how god might have done it. 😢 What a shit show.
It's frankly amazing how weird things one can believe and not see how weird they are. The more time passes the more embarrassing it becomes😭😭😭.
I went with a Pentecostal church with my friend once. It was not very comfortable for me. Of course I am a recovering Catholic so there’s that another “dogma” for Another day” 😅
A lot of Catholics have left that church. Many of them go Evangelical and many of them go pagan.
I've been watching your episodes about religion and brainwashing. I live in Sweden and we are overall not as religious as americans. I remember my mom put me in bible school every sunday when I was around 5 years old and I hated it and I saw the leaders as hippocrates. Fake smiles and humility lol. Then she put me in a club for young communists (communist from an american perspective, here we call it socialist) and that was even worse. I could see right through them. I remember it til this day very clear, escpecially one of the women who did the best she could to convince me. I didn't know about brainwashing but I knew they wanted to mess with my mind just like the church. Then she let me do horse riding and everything was okey from then lol What I wonder though is about how to interpret the bible? I have a very religious friend and most times she interprets it very literally and another time she says like "no it means this it's not literal". I'm wondering how one thing can be interpreted as literaly true and another thing not and how to know how to interpret. I'm just overall cuoriuos about that. I've came across it a couple of times and it gets me intrigued. I don't want to ask my friend because she easily gets upset and then she might have to cleanse bad spirits for hours (lol yes that has happened). I find it so weird that grown ups behaves like this. She is 60 years old and I saw the BS when I was around 5 already. And I want to add that I do not think bad about every day christians. The ones that still has common sense. I totally understand why some morals in the bible are attractive. Like not to steal, kill etc. Good values for anyone and also common sense.
Great question. I’ll do a video about this! Thank you so much.
@@timmygibsonkc Thank you! I have been talking about this with another friend who is also wondering about the same issue. Probably we are not alone in this then. In recent years in Sweden, Christianity has made great progress and people who were mainly spiritual before have now become hardcore Christians, like my friend. Sweden has been a very safe country for a very long time so I think they are becoming Christians mostly because society has become much tougher since we got so many immigrants and we don't recognize our society anymore. From that perspective I totally understand them.
@@evaw3421 Fascinating! I am actually from Stockholm, Sweden, well my Great Grandfather came to America back in the 1800's... so I guess technically he is from Sweden, ha ha. ... but you understand. :)
@@timmygibsonkc Wow, I live in Stockholm! Yes many swedes fled to the US from starvation and also the church. The pastors were horrific back then and they punished people. They came to peoples houses and made exams that was very intimidating. I am originally from the northern part of Sweden. My great grandfather was a Laplander (Sami) and he was a nåjd, a Sami shaman. You should come and visit some time. Stockholm is very nice in the summer and the sun is up like 22 hours a day or so. In the north it's 24/7. And the northern lights!
@@evaw3421 that is wild! I did not know that! Yikes! I hope to visit someday.
We were all born sinners. Praise the Lord oh my soul for His mercy endureth forever. Forgive Him Father for he is fullfilling your word. There will be a great falling away first, then the end will come. The word has already been spread to all parts of the world. Jesus is coming very very soon.❤
Hmmmmm
I believe we are all BORN! And of course no one is perfect, but we’re definitely not “born sinners”!
@timmygibsonkc we are absolutely born sinners! Haven't you ever met a young child?
Please seek help. You obviously read the bible with eyes wide shut.
@@billytheadult6247 God Bless you as well!😊
Speaking in tongues is not biblical.
Yessss
When people tell me that there are “chosen people”, I’m out. Nope! What kind of twisted morality spews how some people are superior to others?
It’s crazy!
@@timmygibsonkc It truly is and yet millions of people wholeheartedly believe it.
Get to know someone before you get in the sack that is the smartest thing I heard you say so far.
Ok…now I need to see old videos of you preaching. 😂
Oh boy! 🤦🏼♂️😂
Second that! 😂
@@tarah.1648 I’m super curious what his sermons were like.
@@timmygibsonkc could be interesting!
Jesus is Lord
Amen
Jesus, if he is anything, is a dead, failed, itenerant apocalyptic preacher.
@@oscarcat1231 Jesus is a mythological lord
The funny thing after leaving Christianity is that I still can instantly start speaking in tongues at the snap of a finger.... so I feel you on that!
It's honestly hilarious
I know, right!
@@timmygibsonkcdid you ever think that maybe your tongue speaking was that of demonic origin? Dinosaur bones were not created by the devil. God could make dinosaurs he made us. You wouldn't start with a creature as complex as a human. You fell away not because you aren't smart but because you conflated dumb things humans said and did and used that as your reason to fall away. Ofc anything that is man made will make you fall away only things of God and Christ Almighty are forever and eternal
For someone who has been a pastor for 30 years you really didn't study and dive into everything did you? Surface level refutation. What we mean by without God we are nothing is that without God having created us and formed our spirit and bodies in his image we are nothing that is true. So did you birth yourself into existence or the mother who carried you 9 months or was that God? Was it you that gives you the gift of saying being able to sing, dance, be intelligent or is it God who gave us these gifts, the free will to do what we want with it, but anything we do on this earth really is meaningless if it doesn't further his kingdom and we are truly nothing more than dirt without God because after 50 years you and I will no longer be here (maybe I will have a couple years left) but still nothing I do on this earth can ever compare to the greatness of what God has achieved and I could only do it cause he gave me life to do so
Ha ha … judge not lest you be judged. I’ve only read the Bible cover to cover hundreds of times, took 4 years of Bible College, then taught the Bible for 30 years. Yet, I will agree, I only scratched to surface of the myths of religion. I have much to learn indeed. You’ve clearly been drinking the kool aid.
Actually our bodies are transformed in a trinkling of an eye remember.
What frikkin church did YOU grow up in?
Wow.🦖🦖🦖
It is not Christianity which is to blame for many of these beliefs. The Catholic Church does not interpret the Scriptures in this way. I would never be able to believe most of this stuff either.
God said No one is good, not one. Only Jesus walked perfectly so He was the only one who could die in your place. You either lack understanding and were never taught correctly or you're just willfully ignorant and refuse to believe.
oh that's so funny I feel like my search for truth lead me to where I am as a Christian. But I am really weird bc before I even bc a Christian I didn't believe in Dinosaurs and believe in Flat Earth so I am definitely fringey. A lot of my understanding of the Bible is sorta different from others like you saying Christains thinking Jesus is coming back this year is funny to me to bc like on of the first things I did was see God said and Man shall have 129 years and that 49 years is a year cycle to God than you have the Jubilee so I added 49+1 is 50 so times that by 120 and you get 6,000 then I looked at the Jewish calendar at their year which is 5784 and was like oh we have 216 years left at least and when I say that to Christians they look at me like an Alien. lol I am fringy.
Christ is King !!
I was raised Catholic and go to church a little more regularly lately but I believe in a balance and respect other's religions. I dont believe a lot of the stuff preached, use your common sense and you will be ok.
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That’s so sweet, thank you!!
Thanks for sharing, that was interesting. It's pretty easy to run a church just from charisma and good looks like a club, it happens a lot, then later realize the moral beliefs were just kind of tacked on like cheap jewelry. I disagreed with some of your ideas of Christianity and you made some logical errors, but it's probably not worth quibbling over at this point, as the fundamental things are still in play. Your description of grace in the first few minutes was good-better than a lot of actual Christians. But I would like to throw a little monkey wrench in your idea that your pure and sincere desire for the truth alone led you out. Clearly you have a distaste for certain things affecting your judgment, giving real bias.
Everything you are mentioning at the beginning of this video is what I believe as a Christian. The Bible is God’s written word.
Oof. Try reading more than just that one book.
Wow.. you believed a whole lot of crap.
No wonder you left your “religion”
Indeed.
"I'm sorry for what I said when I was in a cult"
Yeah, the crap piles up eventually 🤣 weird to look back on what I used to believe before deconstructing. 🤣
@@timmygibsonkc sorry, I don’t mean to mislead you. I am genuinely surprised you believed a lot of that crap. You were seriously hoodwinked. I would be very angry too if I believed all that and to find out it wasn’t true, in the way I thought it to be.
May truth be revealed to you, in grace.
@@mottgirl13 For me, it was my pursuit of truth that lead me to walk away from Christianity. I am at peace.
@@timmygibsonkc hearing what you shared… it just sounded like an American version of Christianity. You’ve been hoodwinked. For a long time.
I was born badASS😔🤘
Mmmm the fruit of bad doctrine
Everything is God's creation, including money. God does not need our money 🤣🤣
The Bible says there will be a great falling away. I hope you repent before it is too late.
Yes
Jesus said his kingdom would come in power in the lifetime of some of those alive at the time. And this was not a spiritual thing. This was a coming in the clouds with power for all to see.
Guess what. He was wrong.
Paul clearly though it would happen in his lifetime, and had to make excuses for those believers that already died. They would be the first to rise and would get new spiritual bodies.
Guess what. He was wrong.
Guess what. You're wrong too.
@@tonymiller3788 Totally agree.
You were better than the president but not anymore.
Haha. I am a fully enthusiastic and committed believer in Jesus Christ the Lord. I am in full disagreement with you generally. I also consider in all kindness that I should share that I believe you have "issues." At the VERY LEAST it may just be that you're a very attractive fellow and one who has a "winning" personality as well, and that perhaps these have had your ego twisted around you... and that this and perhaps other issues are the source of your confusion ... however ... I do find your spirit strangely genuine and as a lover of sarcasm, myself, I am laughing from sea to shining sea. Haha. The tongues bit ... I can't stop laughing. Bro, please God has a given you extraordinary talent. Get a grip. Consider better understandings to Christ's atoning ministry. In the light of God's transcendent love, as you come into it let the self-confidence go, and in humility open a new chapter of service in Christ's name.
@@ercb.7299 Well I appreciate that! Everyone who knows me personally finds me genuine, it’s one of the things I value most of all, and the one thing I lacked greatly when a Bible Thumping Christian. I am living authentically, and find Christian beliefs to just be false. I know someone like you (and like I used to be) just terrible. I get it, I really do! When I say I can’t believe I’m not a Christian anymore, I mean it sincerely. I don’t want to walk away! I was having a great time! Had lots of friends, all my family is Christian. So when I say, I get it, I really really do. Again, as I dug deeper it just became clear to me to be myth (just my personal story here) … and couldn’t believe it anymore. But I appreciate you commenting! And take your feedback, I’m always working on my ego for sure, and just to be clear, I don’t look that good in person in real life! 😂 and actually I’m being serious!!!
@@timmygibsonkc : thanks for your upbeat response! I think the decision that you've made you've made on an extraordinarily shallow level. It should be clear that we are living in a time where folks need a far more reasonable and heartwarming understanding of scripture. This is however the same scripture that instructs clearly on what is and what isn't a proper marriage and intimate relationship. With this said, the issues regarding gender, marriage, and such are not the heart of scripture. Christ Jesus is the Heart of scripture and I challenge you to consider anyone or anything more transcendent and more relevant than Christ's holy ministry and His holy history. With this then I do believe that the church must evaluate its understanding of matters such as vicarious substitution, the wrath of God, the gifts of the spirit, who does and who doesn't inherit eternal life, and more. I would also have you to keep in mind that it's possible to reconcile some of our reason regarding these matters and scriptural truth, but after this is done it's the ego that pesters us the hardest. I challenge you also to re-examine your own self, just as each of us must continually examine our motivations.
@@timmygibsonkc : I do appreciate your humor and sarcasm, which in some regards are the equivalent to things like caviar and good music. What would life be without them?
You say you were a christian, but I think you’ve never been a real one…
The fact that you have preached before, it doesn’t make you a christian ….
So, please keep going to the way you have chosen and don’t ever say that you were a christian
May God , who you obviously don’t know , bless you🙂
The old favorite No True Scottsman Fallacy trotted our against apostates by believers to protect their fragile belief systems from being challenged by logic and reason.
No Christian can admit that a careful and studied quest for truth could possibly lead someone to discard Christianity. To admit such a thing is to admit that Christians may have irrational beliefs.
You know nothing and need to judge your own self. Timmy is speaking the Truth
Definitely a pot guy, it distorts reality, crazy thoughts.
It seems to me that from a false, hyper-Grace charismatic pastor you became either an apostate or what you had always been, an enemy of God. The perverted ‘once saved always saved’ doctrine acknowledges salvation from God, but gives a heretical licence to sin with no commitment to follow Christ. It denies the consequences to our sins and focuses on the penalty being waived, which is unbiblical. It’s still a manmade system of no consequence.
Have you ever tried to separate where salvation comes and what doing the will of God means? You cannot boast about earning one but it’s our duty to do good, that’s what we were redeemed for. It’s the classic issue of faith and works and whether we could lose our salvation. In the end, the charismatic/pentecostal emotion-based faux-Christianity leaves people empty as there is no refinement of the character, it’s all about the blessings.
Out of the seven churches Christ addressed in Revelation, only two did not need to repent. The last one, the lukewarm church sounds a lot like these evangelical churches. You need to repent and work for those sheep you led to destruction. Church leaders will be punished harsher for their heresies.
The gospel is foolishness to those that are perishing. Yes the evangelical church etc is a wacky cult. The Bible is still Gods written word.
@@oscarcat1231 The Bible is clearly NOT God’s word! It’s simply man’s word about mythical things. Ask anyone who really knows the Bible, like real scholars and theologians like Dr. Bart Ehrman… most all agree that it isn’t divine in any way. It’s very human. Have you read it? Like cover to cover? It supports slavery and incest, it degrades women, its genocidal and just plan mythical. Clearly not written by an all powerful divine god!
@@timmygibsonkc I don’t believe it supports slavery or incest. I will never be convinced that the Bible or the God of the Bible isn’t Truth because Gpd has clearly shown me. Sorry that you have fallen away.
Finally, something I can agree with alongside Christians. The Bible IS foolishness.
You’re deceived.
No, you are!
You are just a confused guy, I hope you find peace...........I feel bad for your former church they are definitely in a better place with you gone
Oh, having walked down a very similar path myself, I'm going out on a limb and saying Timmy has found more peace than you, as a Christian, can even fathom.
@@tonymiller3788Ignorance is bliss so you may be right
@TheDjnatronic Yep. And when you seek truth and lose your ignorance, you can move beyond mere bliss and have actual peace.
@@TheDjnatronic Smug and arrogant, just like many believers.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
Speaking in tongues is part of spiritual warfare.
Btw you seem way to comfortable saying you come out of closets. Js
Thanks for sharing your perspective.