A Facebook post caused me to question the validity of Christianity and God! I’ve been clean from religion for over seven years now and I’ve never felt better! I don’t believe in anything but myself! Great story!
I love to hear this, I'm glad you made it out. I tell people the same thing now, I don't believe in any of it now, only myself. Thanks for the support.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 Yup and that's why people like you are so important. I understand that you're not trying to de-convert people but beliefs have repercussions and guide our actions. As long as a majority of our people don't understand logic, critical thinking, skepticism or still believe in Adam and Eve ( mythology ) instead of the Theory of Evolution ( an observable fact) our children will never be able to compete on the global stage. In 2050 black people will stil be waiting for Jesus to come down from heaven and give them salvation while the Chinese and Indians will be building cities on the moon.
I swear Christians in the comments aren’t even listening to you 🤦🏽♂️ I guess testimony is only powerful when you come to agree with them. Congrats on doing the work to change bro some of us know how hard that is 💪🏽
No we are not listening to him im a born again Christian who loves Jesus . As a believer i have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of me leading me to truth and to live the christian life and to see thru those that satan has blinded to the truth . Thru the power of the Holy spirit guiding me i can see what the unbeliever cannot see . And i am thankful for the Holy Spirit the spirit of truth and his guidance in my life . Or i would possibly be like the lost sadly who satan has blinded to the truth . I am praying for all of the lost including the fellow in the video . Jesus loves each of you .
I'm feeling heartbroken, I was raised as a Muslim but found Christ like a few months ago, in the start everything was great, my Christian friends were happy for me and I liked attending church. Eventually I did the same thing with Christianity like I did Islam and dissected it. Religion might just be cap but I still believe in God and the spiritual world.
I see a lot of negative comments towards this man. I left the religion during seminary after finding out the truth during school. People are not ready for the truth. You are free and it's okay to change your mind and beliefs as you grow. You are on tbe right track and stay on your journey. A lot of people do not think for themselves and they are motivated by fear.
@@jherandsoleil6335 Based on that logic, most history isn’t presenting itself as a god whom you should place your trust in. Or one who allegedly died for you on a cross. Or one that says you are evil and desperately wicked and will burn forever unless you accept the atonement of Christ. Those extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Which Christianity doesn’t provide.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 There's plenty of "evidence" for Christianity. Just depends on what you're looking at and what criteria is being used to make the statement if Christianity is "true or false." Based on your comment, you can only deny the miraculous/supernatural events within the Bible. To claim Christianity to be "false" is way too broad of a claim. If you narrowed down the claim to "Christianity changes people's lives." It would be hard to argue that it is a false statement. Although it is a discussion if the change is better or worse. Or "Christianity's teachings (meaning, not someone who is a Christian but does the opposite to represent Christianity) is a good way to live." True or false? And none of those claims can be answered by using archaeological evidence or historical narratives
There is a big difference between mundane claims and extraordinary claims. For example: it is reasonable to believe that donkeys existed in history, because we have plenty of empirical evidence for that. However, it is not reasonable to believe that talking donkeys existed (Bible story), because there is zero good evidence for that.
all of recorded and accepted history is 1) tentatively assumed, if there is later reason to believe our conclusions are false then they'll be corrected, and 2) our recorded and accepted history doesn't make supernatural claims, and they're also externally corroborated with empirical evidence. Try again.
So many Christians or Theists in the comments quoting the same book that we all know for a fact was written by men. "Wirtten by men, inspired by god." Ok, where is the proof of your god ?. Stop quoting that book and bring the proof of god. So many gods are being believed and not single proof for a single one of them.
Trust, if God wrote the book himself...yall still wouldn't believe lol. The proof of God is humans, earth, universe. Even before becoming a christian (At that time I didn't believe in the christian God specifically) I knew there was a God cause; it's basic logic that humans/earth were created by some higher power. There's no way we created ourselves or else we would've done it again. Every single thing on this planet has a creator, including humans/all living things, the earth,
@happyface3216 I was going to dismiss and move on with my day, but since you took the energy. Let me put it to you this way: you have faith in all you have said, which makes you feel good. I get it. But bring proof and saying it's just logic is saying you have no proof but expect everyone else to believe what you believe because it makes you feel good. If I said to you I have a magical elephant in my room but you can't see it and that it's logical to me you would say I am crazy, but you make special pleading for your imaginary friend, whom you have never seen
If you understand that God is not your slave, then you'll understand that God does not bow to you nor will He reveal Himself to you just because you challenge His existence. If Queen Elizabeth won't even do that, so don't expect God to do that either. That's why you will never ever see God or experience His grace in your life. It's all because of your arrogance and think that God is beneath you.
In Gods word the Holy Bible . Jesus spoke so much about faith for a reason . Remember Doubting thomas he was like you he would not believe until,he touched Jesus nailed scarred hands which he did after the resurrection . And douting Thomas fell to his knees and said to Jesus my Lord my God and worshipped him . Then Jesus said this { John 20:29 Thomoas you believe because you have seen , blessed are those that have not seen and yet believed .} How easy would it be if Jesus peeled the sky open and waved then everyone would believe what blessing is there in that ? Jesus spoke so much about Faith for a reson people have to have faith in just about everything we do daily . I choose to put my faith and trust in my personal savior the Lord Jesus Christ and tell you that Jesus loves you .
You were never born again. Those that are born of the spirit will know Jesus is real and that the bible is true. The scriptures come alive only to those that have the Holy Spirit. Out of love my brother I’m telling you that you are deceived. Seek Jesus with your whole heart and truly repent and you will truly know him in spirit and in truth
@@TheFishersofmen12 Those who have woke up from the Christian spell/cult see thru the bs. You’ve trapped yourself to a book written by dead men heralded as truth.
Typical "No True Scotsman" fallacy apologetics response. I'm also a former Christian turned atheist and I guarantee I did all the rituals required to be considered a "real Christian". And then I found out that it was all lies. 😊
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 if the church you were in wouldn't let you ask questions you were not in a healthy church, sadly there are a few unhealthy churches out there and Jesus said there will be wolves in sheep's clothing. They have found evidence of the exodus mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia,and Sodom an Gomorrah is near the dead sea where they have evidence look it up on utube.Jesus is coming back heaven and hell are real we all will see that when we die and God don't want anyone in hell.
I stopped because they told me to "study the bible". The more i looked into it the more confused i got. I dropped the bible and picked up a guitar and never looked back!
@chapmaned24 but then that'll be like the english teacher telling you to read a book about slavery regulation and god committing mass genocide, then saying "God did it out of love!" Both senarios, I'm going to look at you like you're crazy. I also didn't have a reason to stay in the damn religion to begin with, especially if it considers homosexuality an "abomination" for no apparant reason. If you want a better rounded out answer, i made one here - ruclips.net/video/f7yBewpeN9g/видео.html
@chapmaned24 i made a more rounded response on why i left christianity: ruclips.net/video/f7yBewpeN9g/видео.html I would give you my reasoning here, but every time i send my responses, youtube deletes them.
@@chapmaned24 Well, leaving it is one thing. Bragging about it is something I'd never do. Christianity in the US is declining (and will continue to decline), and that is what inspired me to study the bible and the religion as a whole. I won't knock people who follow faith just because it makes them feel good or is a solid routine to stand on in morality, i knock people that uses it as a fear-mongering tactic or give the religion a bad look.
Dude had no business teaching anyone 2 years after being “saved”. But I’m also not surprised because he has a charismatic background, which is the least theologically sound “denomination of Christianity”, and that’s putting it very mildly. I’ll be praying for you though🙏🏿
@@nexus8633 not sure how, especially when Paul has said about the role of a pastor/overseer: “He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.” 1 Timothy 3:6 ESV. “But where sin abounds, grace abounds more” praying that the Lord gives him grace and true faith 🙏🏿
@PTenteh Paul was dead by the time it was written, along with Titus lol also Revelation was written after the apostle John died just in case just like you were told it was John, one of the 12 apostles. In fact Martin Luther didn't even consider it canon but kept it in the bible anyways and put it at the end
@@TrisjensChronicles1203, that’s something you don’t seem to understand. Salvation is in having a personal relationship with our Creator through our faith in Christ. You think faith in God is found in religion, but religion was established to lead you away from God. I could list all the historical events that God said would happen hundreds and even thousands of years before they occurred, and how they were fulfilled exactly as God says. I could point to infinite examples within the creation itself that show intelligent design, or to the scriptures of God’s description of His creation that we didn’t learn until recently that things in the creation are EXACTLY as God’s Word says, and none of that would change your mind. Only the Holy Spirit can give you the faith to truly believe, so you need to ask Him to show you, not other people who have no power to convict you of God’s truth. I left religion, and I found Christ, and only then was I spiritually regenerated by faith that God Himself gave me. He continues to uphold my faith. Do I understand everything that happens in this world? Or do I understand everything? No, but I look to God and His Word for wisdom and understanding, and I’m completely aware of my shortcomings, but I know the spiritual forces at work in this world, the wicked spirits, and the Spirit of YHVH, and I know that YHVH is the One who is working all things for His glory, and even the evíI that’s done is turned around for good by YHVH. It’s okay not to understand everything, because we are human, not God. There’s a verse that says “LORD, I believe. Help my unbelief”. The man acknowledged his lack of faith, but He knew that Jesus had the power to take away his unbelief. He asked Jesus, Almighty YHVH in the flesh, to take away his unbelief, not another person. If you want to restore your faith in Jesus, then you need the Author of our faith, God Himself, to take away your unbelief, and change your heart to flesh, because you have hardened your heart against God. All who seek Jesus, JESUS and NOT RELIGION, with their whole heart will find Him. If my faith was in religion rather than Christ alone, I would still be lost.
I'm a non-believer. What was revealed, so that I may CLEARLY see God too? Oh btw, don't say it's only personal, because truth isn't personal, the same way gravity isn't personal. It can be demonstrated, or it cant...What was the proof that made you a theist?
I relate with you on the asking questions part man, went through deconstruction myself. I'm tackling much of the questions tackled here ( Reliability of the Bible, God's existence ) I started reading books, internet, debates. But it actually has made my confidence in Christianity stronger. And respectfully 12:00 your presupposing NT isn't a historical document ( or isn't enough ) recordings of what Jesus did. If your open to some evidence Dr. Wallace's video "Is What We Have Now What They Wrote Then?" put some perspective for me. Blessings man, and I hope you take some time to look into the video.
Amen brother! Ask questions, seek the truth. Most people who don’t want to know God because the “church” hurt them. They take it out on Christ rather than questioning the traditions of man.
I pray i always stay with my LORD and Savior JESUS CHRIST. I used to be depressed and lost and got healed ... Havent been depressed a single day since 2012... How GOOD IS GOD. TAste and see that THE LORD IS GOOD.
So if a Muslim prays to Mohammed and his depression is healed does that mean Islam is true? Do you think a Muslim couldn't say the exact same thing as a justification for his God. Read Exodus 21 and Leviticus 25, then come tell us how GOOD he is. May Science and logic continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family.
@@RobertCharles-i1k I've read exodus ... Been studying The Bible for 16 years ...Seen many miracles ... And you can be a father brother and son at the same time can you...
@@traezaX1 Give us an example of a miracle that other people witnessed and could verify besides yourself. If you've read Exodus then you should know that both Israeli and Egyptian scholars and experts all agree the Exodus never happened. The evidence against it being possible is overwhelming. Not to mention, historians don't even think Moses ( or Abraham) ever existed. They are merely legends like Hercules. The Exodus story is one of the best examples to show that the Bible is Jewish mythology, not real history. May Science continue to Bless you and your family. 🙏
@Gods_servant13 well it makes you wonder what Jesus is doing up there then doesn't it? I mean, he said he would leave the 99 to find the one but he still hasn't shown up for anyone who's left the church.
@@captainobvious8983 and you checked in with everyone? This man probably never fully converted because if he did he would know that the promises of God are yes and amen and the spirit realm is more real than the flesh..
@Gods_servant13 so a man who was a Christian for 20 years, who was an actual preacher for Christ and he never fully converted that whole time? That doesn't make too much sense but I can only speak about my own testimony and say I was fully converted, gave my life fully to Jesus, went to Seminary, prayed, worshipped, fasted, went to Africa 3 times and met the chiefs of villages and preached the gospel, and actually worked at my church for about a year and a half and I can tell you to this day I never once heard the voice of God, felt his presence, or came close to seeing a miracle. In fact all I saw were the members of the church becoming more cynical, arrogant, and fat off the offerings. It's not that this creator wasn't fully converted or that I wasn't fully converted but the lack of an actual experience with what's supposed to be the closest relationship you'll ever have was just too big to ignore.
@@Gods_servant13 no true scotsman fallacy, is it really that inprobable to you that somebody deconverted from a completely unsubstantiated, and incoherent religion by applying basic scepticism? you should try it for once instead of saying this guy was never a true christian with no evidence for that claim, he used to be a preacher and very likely knows the bible better than you do.
You said you did research, did you even bother to look up the church fathers to see if your beliefs actually matched the early church and how they understood scripture? You said you wondered why there were so many denominations. It is because people try to read their own beliefs into it and dont read early christian/second temple judasim culture. Knowing Hellenistic writing styles, and/or development of writing style pre and post enlightment/printing press, certainly helps as well. People see things as they are now/culture/thought processes and assume everyone for all of history had those same ideas.
There was many sects of Christianity before the Roman empire made an orthodox version. The early church fathers disagreed on so much, like the divine nature of jesus and his relation to God, which is a fundamental part of "Christianity" today, this would probably weaken your faith, because it shows how much of your beliefs are just interpretation.
@@Era-lk1lo I'm eastern Orthodox. They teach church history quite well, as well as a bit of theology. Like one of the first heresy's (gnosticism) actually believed Jesus wasn't human and just appeared to be human. The heresy you are referring to was started by Arius. Who was born in 256AD and there are no other writings of people denying Jesus as God before him. All of these things can be traced back in history. You guys act like we don't have thousands of years of writing on this stuff.
@@Era-lk1lo Moreover you act like because some people had differing beliefs it discredits the whole institution. But people are allowed to have wrong beliefs, as it doesn't change the truth. Like the existence of flat earthers, doesn't cast doubt on the earth being round and gravity's existence.
@@KillerofGods Arianism was very popular around the times of Arius but saw more popularity post the nicene council, it's important to note not everyone who we label as Arian now would have seen themselves as Arian, post nicene council, Nicene theologians used "Arian" to attack anybody who didn't agree with the divine trinity (homoousios) I think you should look into Arian and Nicene conflicts, at points in the 3rd century people like Nazianzus had a small church in Constantinople while his Arian rival held the city's main cathedral in the early 380ad Just look at how Saint Jerome referred to Arianism. the battle between Nicene and Arianism is so important in Christianity. Read Daniel Williams - "Ambrose of Milan and the end of the Arian-Nicene conflicts" it goes into how The Nicene council tried to discredit Arianism and some of the tactics they used.
@@Era-lk1lo Oh yeah arianism got pretty big and threatened to take over the church. It certainly didnt help that Constantine leaned towards Arianism. And people often like to talk about Nicea, but conveniently forget Julian the apostate right afterwards. Anyways, just because a bunch of people believed something wrong doesn't cast doubt on the truth. Again to use the flat earthers argument. The Greek philosophers already knew the world was round (and estimated it's size) just because a lot of people didn't believe them, doesn't mean what they said wasn't true. Also thanks for the book recommendation, I'll check it out. It sounds like an interesting read.
The earliest sources about Jesus before Paul’s writings likely date back to the very first years after Jesus’ death, which is typically considered to be around 30-33 AD. These pre-Pauline traditions can be traced back to the following periods: 1. Oral Traditions (30-50 AD): Shortly after Jesus’ death, his followers began to share stories, teachings, and beliefs about his resurrection. This period, often referred to as the “oral tradition” phase, may have started immediately after the events of Jesus’ crucifixion. This oral tradition formed the basis of much of what was later written down. 2. Early Creeds and Hymns (30s-40s AD): Some of the material embedded in Paul’s letters is thought to be very early. For example, the creed in 1 Corinthians 15:3-7, which speaks about the death, burial, resurrection, and post-resurrection appearances of Jesus, is considered by many scholars to have been formalized within just a few years after Jesus’ death. Paul writes that he “received” this tradition, indicating it was already in circulation before he began his ministry. 3. The Jerusalem Church (30s AD): The earliest Christian community, led by figures like James (Jesus’ brother) and Peter, likely preserved and spread teachings about Jesus. This community, centered in Jerusalem, would have been active right after Jesus’ death, providing another early source of information about Jesus’ life and significance. Therefore, while Paul’s letters date from around 50-60 AD, the traditions and sources he drew from were likely established within a few years of Jesus’ death, meaning they could date back to the early 30s AD.
@jayseth Bro! A simple google search will help you identify non biblical accounts. To name a few: Pliny the Younger, The Babylonian Talmud, Claudius Tacitus, Flavius. Your not even trying. There is so much information out there now that refutes this. I even asked AI and it gave me sources that talk about Jesus and Christian within 50 years of the account. Also someone also commented and gave you break down of the account within 30 years. My question again to you which you did not answer is,What is the proposed "sin" that you're dealing with? Let me ask plainly, if you were a "Christian" what are the top three sins you would be committing?
@@antonioperez4091 shhh.. In the 21st century mind, oral traditions are not a thing....the generation that is scientific and enlightened can only see ancient texts through their myopic 21st-century eyes...
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 Faith is not knowing at all. It's not knowledge. It's belief. That's why Jesus said to Thomas blessed are those who have not seen me and believe.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203that’s your opinion, which is subjective . Faith is what is written in Hebrew 11:1, and its objective. Deprived of all feelings.
@delandomcwilliams5737 - Do you apply that logic to anything else of critical importance in life? Or just make an exception for religion? For example, do you accept "faith-based" diagnosis from the doctors prior to surgery, or do you need that silly thing called evidence? How about legally...Would you accept a faith-based verdict from a judge or jury that wasn't in your favor? I mean, no evidence, no proof of anything, just based on faith? If not, why?
Frankly, these are some of the laziest arguments against Christianity I've ever heard. How is the bible mythological? Which history did you read that disprove the existence of a historical Jesus? What are your sources/evidence for the claims you're making against the bible? Where did you get the idea that belief in God is void of evidence?
@@kubiyoshi2744 Many people die for many things that aren’t true. Obviously, at the time, they thought it was true. Just like all deconverts. Until they find out it isn’t. Some die, never finding out. Also to note, you might wanna read: The Myth of persecution by Candida Moss. The martyr narrative is a fake one. No need for fake history when we have real history showing what really happened.
Brother, it was brave of you to share your testimony and I appreciate it. Having said that, I think you may want to revisit some things. 1. Discovering that some things in the Bible are not literal does not invalidate the entire theology. 2. We have extra-biblical evidence for Jesus’s life beyond Josephus’ writings (Clement of Rome, Suetonius, Ignatius of Antioch, and more). 3. Archaeologists HAVE found tangible evidence for Jesus’ life: we have the “Pilate Inscription” (confirms the existence of Pontius Pilate who ordered His death); and we have the Caiaphas Ossuary (burial box inscribed w the name of the high priest involved in Jesus’ trial, which is corroborated in the New Testament) 4. Absence of overwhelming archaeological evidence is not a reason to dismiss Jesus’ story has mere fiction. People were ready to “write off”the Bible as a corrupted text until discovering the Codex Sinaiticus in 1844 and the Dead Sea scrolls in 1946. These discoveries were nearly 2000 years after Jesus’ life! And we didn’t even know much about ancient life in general until we discovered the Rosetta Stone and learned how to decode ancient writings. So, just because scientists have not excavated anything during your short lifetime doesn’t mean they won’t find more evidence in the future, especially as technology continues to advance. 5. The fact that we don’t have tons of contemporary writings about Jesus is not a cause for concern. The Roman Emperor Tiberius was the most powerful man during Jesus’ time, yet all we know about him comes from just 4 biographies written AFTER his death. The writers were Suetonius, Tacitus, Cassius Dio, and Payerculus. Likewise, Jesus’ life was recounted by 4 biographers as you know: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. So if you want to “throw the whole book away” you might as well throw away everything you think you know about ancient history too! I can imagine how devastating it was to feel like you were lied to. But I’m encouraging you to reconsider your decision, because deep down I believe you know He is the way, the truth, and the life! God Bless.
I hear you but I’m a little confused. You seem to appeal to history/science as a basis for why you reject Jesus. But the latest scientific evidence also suggests that there is a creator (even if you don’t want to call the creator “God”). So while I understand that you reject the Christian worldview specifically, I don’t see why that necessarily means you need to reject the concept of a deity/creator. It’s like throwing the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. You seem like a pretty smart guy, but it would also seem intellectually lazy to abandon the idea of theism or even deism
@@sC-ho5xx I use many things to reject Jesus/bible. You’re presupposing that there is a creator. Superstitions aren’t healthy to me. I have no good reason to believe or evidence for the concept of a deity/creator. I have no use for theism or deism. Those are crutches to live life that I don’t subscribe to, neither are they needed for me to get thru understanding life. It’s like why put my mind in a mental prison over unsubstantiated nonsense like theism or deism…. Totally unnecessary in my hypothesis.
I was an atheist and changed to a Christian. I look at the Bible like some see the 48 laws of power. I believe lots of the Bible was written to give you a path to living a good life. Real or not, if you follow the Bible, morally you can't go wrong for most of it. And I leave it at that. Some don't need moral adjustments, but I know I did. I treat people better, I try not to judge people. And I don't over indulge in drinking or be out in them streets like I used to. That's what the Bible has done for me. Real or fake.
'''Morally you can't go wrong for most of it'' Oh boy, have you actually read the Bible? It is so easy to morally improve the Bible in many ways, that fact alone should tell you that this book was written by ignorant people instead of an omniscient morally perfect being. So yeah, definitely fake lol.
So provide the verifiable, objective evidence that you found that proves the Bible is true? What method did you use to determine the Koran and BOM are false but the Bible is true? PS. I already know you won't / can't answer those questions. So when you do get some evidence, let us know. ✌️ May science continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family.
@@LogicalThoughts803 I can go wrong with it morally. Did a video about god not being good morally. The Bible is one of the worst for morality. But I get some people need it.
Hey man. I have so many questions about Christianity, but the biggest downside for me is faith-based salvation and the problem of Hell. I find it extremely hard to believe in God who would send good people to eternal damnation for not believing in Christ. Idk if I can believe based on that any more 😢
Once i realized the flood story was trash, it was all over. Most Christians have never actually read all of the bible. They've been reading the same book for 20, 30, 40 + years but just can't seem to finish it.
Yeah, once I seen it was all bullshit, no point in me basing my life around it. Fairy tales and make believe stories. As one writer said, historical fiction.
Not just the flood but science has proven Adam and eve didn't exist and a second coming is like believing in the tooth fairy or Santa Claus coming down your chimney... Also a lot of the teachings are abusive and self defeating logic.
@favouriyiola1825 so you mean 90% of believers are not disciplined? Maybe they are just lazy, gullible human beings. And if you've read the whole thing and you are OK with what's written in it, then I have to question your ability to comprehend.
You sound ridiculous. 😅 He learned that faith can't override facts. It's called intellectual honesty. You should give it a try. May Science continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family.
@@DonWinslow-u5w Please timestamp when he said he deconstructed because of the internet? You're upset because you can't face the fact that the Bible isn't anymore special than the Koran or Book of Mormon, which you happily reject. It's called cognitive dissonance. May Science ( unlike the Bible) continue to bless 🙏 you, your family and all of humanity.
@@DonWinslow-u5w You are obviously! Your comment , "That's a step down for sure" is an implication that he's doing something wrong and the Bible is to be believed as true. You are demonstrably wrong and you're upset ( passive aggressive) because he's calling you out on your beliefs.
So sad to see these comments not validate an ex Christian’s view or even say horrible things like “well you weren’t really a Christian!” Terrible. I’ve left Christianity after 26 -27 years and most Christian’s will resort to saying we didn’t have an actual relationship. I would say it’s the complete opposite- we truly sought the truth and came to this conclusion. I don’t think anyone of us believed we would leave our faith one day, but if you actually read the Bible , that’ll do it! 🎉🎉🎉
I literally had an argument the other day by someone whos a preacher and it literally boiled down to them telling me" youre wrong, Jesus is right, and i dont care what you say". I was like wow, it has to do with so much more than bringing reality to people, its such an emotional high people get from religion and they can't give uo their drugs easily lol
@@captainobvious8983 Yeah the dopamine that religion provides is strong. People would rather cling to emotional attachments than factual truths. The cognitive dissonance is strong.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203a factual truth is that Jesus conquered death. There are plenty of Eucharistic miracles that happened around the world with evidence provided by doctors, atheists and other independent experts. Want receipts?
Keep up the good work bro I always know whatever happen back then can happen now someone innocent just pass in my family and prays couldn't bring him back to life Christianity make you delusional for real why if somebody get injured or something where they run to the hospital not church let's talk facts pls
My friend I so do appreciate the fact you had questions. And to be quite honest I’m sorry that these people in seminary and the Body of Christ could not help you at your time of need. God has revealed Himself through His Son. My prayer for you is that you would be open to seeking more of the Truth. I saw some of these comments that are in a sense condemning you. It’s not our job as Christians to condemn, God is Judge, but to reveal the Love of God through His Son Jesus Christ. Much Love to you.
i pray that my brother here that has been feeling lost find his way back to you my Lord and that you'll heal his heart in Jesus christ name And a message to you my brother don't listen to what man has to say but listen to what God says to you
I’ve been deconstructing a bit at a time for many years, having been raised Catholic. recently I’ve just been absolutely floored by the realization of “…how did I ever believe this?” Listening to my relatives talk so earnestly about what they think is like a punch in the gut - they sound psychotic. What in the world
@@zbcrazy Being around my family and hearing them and others, I ask myself that same question. I be like, was that how I used to sound. It’s like having psychosis. I cringe at the thought of it all now.
Thank you for posting about your experience. I also left Christianity. Now I started a global atheist and freethinker business and employment, plus - networking support group. I do not want to spam your video. If you, or anyone in the comments are interested, or are a business owner who wants to promote their business, skills, or hobbies for free, just let me know. I will point you in the right direction. Always looking for atheist, non-believer, and freethinker business owners and jobseekers who are looking to make professional and social connections with like-minded people.
@ True. Back then no internet. Just recently I discovered the many ‘deconstruction’ channels. Quite therapeutic - finally I feel the support I didn’t have almost 40 years ago. And it makes me laugh a lot.
Watching this as someone who has never ever been to church and raised completely non religious this vid is really interesting! Glad you found yourself man
Na, I just realized “god” is a concept that you let in your brain. Your mind makes it real to you and you think it’s true. Plus, I grew up from make believe and fairy tales. It’s better in the free world reality.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 You went to the world to look for evidence of God knowing the Word says that the enemy is god of the world. You aligned with the enemy. I’ll pray for you, I apologize for coming off the way I did. I didn’t think about the way I came off and just let it out.
@@joshhanlon1225 Who is this enemy character? 😂 Superstitions has fried your brain. Lay off being heavily minded in the convo. It’s hard to have a decent conversation.
you are just not allowed to question most things, not to mention the 1000s of denominations and every last one of them is correct, yet they are all saying different things. so i decided to read the bible on my own without stupid translation by the pastor or elder. what i found after reading the bible, is that there is a verse for anything you want to justify, there are no right or wrong answers. so i left religion!
@@Rio-mf7dx You’re on my page, you clicked on it. Giving people information or the choice to choose isn’t wrong. You shouldn’t have tuned in, especially if it’ll weaken your beliefs. But you don’t/can’t speak for others outside of your control.
Maaan. Hearing this hits home personally. Some of the very things you mentioned are the very things that led me away from Christianity. Once I went down that rabbit hole, it was over. It took me about 1-2 yrs to finally figure out I was an atheist. Agnostic atheist to be clear. Appreciate your story
@@thaimperial97 Thank you for that. I’m glad you were able to make it out into the land of the free. 😆 No more chains. From one free brotha to another, journey well.
You have been led astray my brother. The bible has nothing to do with religion, it's centered around the constitution of God's Kingdom. It's about allowing the holy Spirit to renew your mind, which in turn will align your appetites and desires with God's will the more you yield over time. It was never about following "rules" or the law." The law exists primarily to show how impossible it is to please God by ourselves. Atheism was created by, and has very much been fueled by Freemasons (who are actually satanists at the root.) Who do you think is funding the elites, the many luciferarian entertainers/athletes, and emasculating agendas in the media and our schools? Are you not aware the entire world is at enmity with God? Are you not aware that the United Nations, and the world economic forum have already declared "new world order" in the name of "global governance," through "one world currencies "one world religion and the like? How else do you think it is that Albert Pike who founded Free Masonry, detailed exactly how world war 3 would happen decades ago? How is every single mainstream artist insanely demonic? Haven't you seen the increase in the amount of evil found in essentially any "hit" show, in the form of debauchery, profanity, essentially everything God detests. Are you not aware that regardless of your opinions, these worldly demonic forces are still very much at war with God? Either you are with God or with the falling away so vividly described in the book of Revelation. The bible states Satan has deceived the WHOLE world, and the biggest lie of them all, is that our opinions have any bearing on the TRUTH. Please don't fall for the strong delusion
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 well you spoke about the flood and archeological evidence that doesn’t exist but it does. A bunch of evidence such as geological evidence of large scale flood determined by sedimentary layers, epic of Gilgamesh which is a historical document, and paleo climatic studies. Now I’m not one of those that says it 100% proves the story happened just like it says in the Bible but evidence indicates that there was a flood during that time frame. A lot of this is tracked through the Catholic Church and that turns off a lot of people but when you look at the history of it and the destruction of the church a lot of it makes sense. Takes a lot of reading and research especially since a lot of it tracks back to Catholic/orthodox Christianity where they preserved a lot of the tradition, studies, history and etc.
@@DragonD_Dojima a good start is to check out the Catechism of Catholic Church and the apostolic traditions or simply start with Peter and move forward there. I hope this help. Just so you know, I grew up Roman Catholic, got abused, left at a young age, turned my back on everyone and lived as an atheist for many years until I became Agnostic with some Christian beliefs. In the past year, I stumbled upon a story that I thought was BS, began researching heavy and it brought me right back to the place I vowed to never be affiliated with again… the Catholic Church. Don’t get me wrong, they are responsible for a lot of the destruction of what we see now and how we feel about religion and Catholics but when I did my research and followed the lineage it does go back to Catholicism with an understanding that man has damaged this not god or the concepts of what was supposed to be. Good luck on your journey… I see a lot of crazy’s calling you names in the comments and I can tell you… that’s not what Christianity is and many people have been taught wrong especially since the great schism but even prior to that there was infighting during the Arian controversy. If you are a history buff I encourage you to take a dive with a different perspective. You will find more answers speaking to theologians who are Catholic versus a non-denominational style of understanding the gospel. 👍
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 you should read the Case for Christ as a starters , also try Christianity w/o a building , alot of christian men are weak in the faith because they're lack a prayer life and don't have a relationship with the scriptures , regardless of where you stand in the five fold - anyone with an intellect and stand on a pulpit . the devil does it every sunday - also ensure a group of men in your community who can truly keep you accountable and can beat up for not delivering . healthy to be a skeptic - at the end of the day . believe or not - you know about christ and when you die the real evidence will be in your face . Stay up man .
Praying for this Brother and others in a similar place. There are numerous sources that could have helped him with the questions he had. It is sad that there are many within the church who don't understand the difference between asking questions vs. questioning. Questions are healthy and should be part of our walk.
Bro..thanks for seeking the truth..I left Christianity about 25 years ago..I was soon broke being a Christian..Now that I'm liberated I only seek the truth in all things😊😊😊😊
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19
@zacmac2x Because you are so use to using the same book that has you confused to argue back and forth and it isn't necessary to make the point that he made. HISTORICAL BIBLE AND THEOLOGICAL BIBLE ARE DIFFERENT EVENTS. WHAT YOUR THEOLOGICAL BIBLE HAS TAUGHT YOU CAN NOT BE BACKED BY TRUE HISTORY.
Hi Trisjen. I understand where you’re coming from as I’ve gone through a very similar journey as you, but ultimately came back and rededicated my life to Christ 3 years ago after along time being an agnostic. What did it for me was a combination of paranormal experiences and coincidences I could not deny or logically explain, combined with realizing that end time prophecy is playing out exactly like I grew up being told it would. Basically although logically speaking I don’t understand a lot of the Bible, my intuition, paranormal experiences, and current world events tells me that there is in fact tremendous power in the name of Jesus. What I’ve personally experienced has led me to this conclusion even though I don’t understand it. This existence is very mysterious, and watch as the idea of aliens starts to go mainstream. Deception is all around us and once I started to wake up to that my spiritual eyes started to open. Peace to you.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 s/he said "it's so false" (in relation to Christianity.) I like to engage with people with differing viewpoints. I can respect agnosticism, aethiests often times are pretty hypocritical in their use of "logic" because when you apply their logic back at them you can literally deny reality even exists. It then just boils down to a modernist viewpoint where there is no such thing as truth.
I transitioned to atheism gradually once I realized that abrahamic religions conditioned the minds of women and girls to accept their life purpose as being a servant, helper or assistant to a man and how harmful that ideology has been for women and children. The church is the perfect place for abusers to avoid accountability for the harm they’ve done. Women around the world have been sold the idea of being the weaker vessel and being a secondary creation despite the reality of us being the creators and sustainers of human life. Millions of Women and children been harmed behind the misogynistic patriarchal structure created by religion and that is not something that can be ignored.
@@PleaseFollowChrist girl you living in death now sacrificing your human nature and interest for the sake of being saved. I’ll watch my anime, play video games and buss nuts peacefully and happily guilt free while you let religion dictate your life. I don’t care about hell or an afterlife. I’m not stuck in that reality, you are and I will not suffer with you sweetheart.
@@PleaseFollowChrist How is God worth serving when he out here letting children die from cancer and worse? Your God is a figment of your imagination that you’ve created to make yourself feel better. I don’t need a God to make myself feel better I go outside and enjoy me a drink or hop on a plane if I need some self satisfaction. Talk to your sky daddy about why you’re watching atheist videos, are you trying to convince me or yourself?
@@PleaseFollowChrist We live in the world that Your God created allegedly it’s just as flawed as him and it’s because of people like you who rather replace reality with religion as to why the world isn’t a better place for all of us.
@@jadawaite6397 I recommend you read John Burke's bestseller Imagine Heaven. Here's an interview with him, video: Agnostic studies Near Death Experiences, finds Jesus.
Questions: 1) So how did we all get here? What is your explanation after deconverting? 2) Why atheism instead of agnosticism? 3) Do you now believe that once we die it’s over? 4) Did you give all the money back to the parishioners who followed you?
@@enlightenedone7083 1. My parents and their parents had them. 2. Because I have no good reason to believe in any gods especially those revealed to us by a book or personal experience. 3. Personally, I didn’t remember anything before I was born. So I think, once it’s over it’s over, lights out. I’m ok with that. 4. I was an associate minister, not a Senior pastor. I never did receive all the money back I faithfully gave to the church.
1. Not having an explanation does not mean that magic dude in the sky did it. 2. Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive. Theism is about what you believe, Gnosticism is about what you know. You could be an agnostic theist. 3. Nobody knows.
the 1st question could have no reasonable secular answer at all and that still doesn't warrant a god claim, that's a fallacious line of reasoning to say you don't have an answer to a question and drawing a conclusion to satisfy it, rather than verifying if the conclusion is true. Agnosticism as you're using it is the colloquial usage, there is only theism or atheism and both theists and atheists can be gnostic, or agnostic. Gnosticism only refers to the knowledge of a belief, and do you have any reason or evidence to say that there is some form of the afterlife? coz mortality is a scary thing to think about sometimes but it doesn't mean you're justified in saying the afterlife is true.
Love the video and the candor, brother. Really weird that i attempted to like the video but the like count stayed at '666.' Very strange. Anywho, would love to have you on the show, brother. Peace and love.
20 years ago I said the infilling of the Holy Spirit is the only validation of the Bible. Without It the accounts are too fantastic to believe. Jesus said this generation seeks for a sign. That’s evidence or as I like to say, people who want an over the top demonstration. But no sign shall be given except for that of Jonah, repent. There has always been a debate over tongues as well as pretenders. But that is a word wide phenomenon when it’s real. There also has been miracles, healings and answered prayers of the specific sort. God is not gonna come running down every 20 years to say. Let me do a magic show for you all so you can believe in me. It’s basically trust and believe or don’t. The Bible is primarily about spiritual warfare. Rebellious angels, the stubborn will of humanity and God dealing with both. A lot of churches don’t even really deal with spiritual warfare and then we wonder why there’s so much chaos in the world. And we really have to seriously consider because there’s the debate over archaeology. Some say there is and others say there isn’t. If this is spiritual warfare and there’s fallen angels set to deceive, whatever the rocks cry out about they’re gonna work really hard to conceal that. That is why it’s written, the god of this world has blinded them so they don’t see and won’t believe. This faith stuff is not as cut and dry as believers and nonbelievers think it to be.
So you were saved at 17 and a preacher at 19? Like a pastor of a church leading people in the faith? For 20 years? Then after you were a pastor you decided to study theology, archeology etc.? Something does not add up.
First, can you even prove Christ existed without using the Bible? Nope . Let's say we agree that he did exist . Can you prove he was a God or special ? Nope! See the problem?
@@RobertCharles-i1kWe can, and, we can, I'm not putting your presuppositions over both Christian and Secular, archeological and historical evidence. Of course the reliability of the Bible is a factor, but you should also study the early Church, Roman Empire, and more. You probably went to a protestant Church if you think we only rely on the Bible and don't find where these manuscripts come from.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203Respectfully, atheists and agnostics have more respect for honesty than you if you blame Jesus for what people who deny his teachings do.
@@Fil_the_spil Do you know what special pleading is? It's a logical fallacy and you're guilty of it. If you disagree , Please provide the evidence or logical reason people should read those books or consider them to have authority or to be true? Have you read the Koran , the B.O.M or books about Hinduism, Buddhism or Shinto? If not, why not? May Science continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family!
Let me say. A little something iam a 62 year old man born and raised in Christianity for over 55 years. Just about all of my life was a bible believer. Until I started studying ancient history. Now I know that it's all not true. The sad thing about this that some people are going to stay trapped in this fake religion. To lazy or scared to study for their self. To free their self .
@@larrybogan477 Thanks for watching Larry. I’m glad you made it out. Something changes you when you start studying it for yourself. You can’t unsee what you saw. That’s why I do videos, to help others who are trapped. Being an alarm clock for some and inspiration for others. Seeing your comment, really encouraged me. Thanks a lot.
Glad you made it out like it’s some cult? Your trippin little homie. Jesus was real. Whether you think of him as God or not, is a different argument. But multiple scholars of that time, acknowledged Jesus being a real person. Plus. way too many people around the world who are believers of other faiths or even atheist have seen Jesus in dreams, visions, and near death experiences. They don’t see Buddha, they don’t see Gandhi, they don’t see Mohammed. They see Jesus!Hundreds of thousands documented. So please, my brother stop with all the cap about it being a fake religion because you studied history and that’s why its not true. There is way more evidence than not
@@anosplayhouse1532 Hindus see Vishnu, Muslims see Allah, Judaism sees one god etc etc. You see jesus… The mind has a terrible way to play tricks on you and confirm your faith bias. I’m good on the human sacrifice blood cult, you can have it homie.
OMGosh. I feel so guilty for even, thinking this, let alone typing it. I am struggling so much right now with my belief with Christianity. I have been in the Bible every single morning for the past six years. I really don’t feel any different. I was then told that I wasn’t praying right, that I wasn’t doing this right. I would pray for the armor of God to cover me the blood of Jesus. And I didn’t feel any different and it’s like it wasn’t working I mean, how can anybody a human being live up to all of that? Meanwhile, I see these awful people who are fine. They have fine lives. I just can’t wrap my head around it. Are we just supposed to be miserable while we’re down here on earth and then we’re rewarded in heaven? I have a friend who was in a coma for eight months, and he is undead. He believes in the fourth dimension like I said, I feel guilty even writing this comment.
You don't have to fel guilty start doing more research on the ppl of the Bible and quantum physics about reality don't be solo scriptura just Bible based
I would recommend, telling this to GOD. Pray and fast and seek him and he will guide your path. Try no food and water for 6am-6pm (Daniel fast), with prayer, bible reading and worship. He will move. The enemy likes to deceive us and capture hearts, but stay encouraged. If anyone disagrees with my statement, we can respect each others beliefs. It's important to save our souls, we are only on this earth for however long, are days are numbered but heaven is eternal. Faith without works is dead. Wishing you the best of luck!
My journey to becoming agnostic started in 2011. Literally, for some of the same reasons in this video! I haven't publicly came out as agnostic because of my large religious family, but I've been sowing the seeds of questions on Facebook posts...lol I still enjoy gospel music because of the musicianship and great vocals, but I haven't been to church since 2011. So glad i found this video. Thanks for making it.
Thank you for that. I’m glad to hear a part of your journey. I know of some people who haven’t come out publicly for said reasons also. I get it. Good to know you can find videos to help you.
I'm a 58 year old Black man, whose been openly claiming to be a none believer for years. The majority of my family knows this. I tell them, I'm not religious, but I do work very hard to be righteous towards man kind!
You obviously never had a real, personal, one on one, relationship with Yeshua (Jesus). Because when one encounters this Jesus for real, He totally transforms your life in a way you can never, ever deny His Power, His Presence, His Love. There's nothing more REAL than this Jesus!!!💯
I agree God Is so good. God healed me of panic attacks my body overall. I was homeless for a bit an had no gas i prayed God help me it has to be you getting me out of this mess a random stranger walks up to me an hands me 200$ I didn't ask I wasn't panhandling... God Is love and cares about his children
@@LuckyEucalyptusTree- is it impossible for it to be a coincidence that that person gave you the money? If not, then why does that automatically = god?
Brother, I’m At 8:27 Of Your Videos And I Swea This Is The Exact Thing That Push Me Away, But The Nail In The Coffin As They Say Was When I Read “How To Make A Negro A Christian”
At salvation Jesus hugged me as I sat on my bed, filled me with the Holy Spirit, instantly freed me from deadly alcoholism on a barstool. He’s talked to me twice audibly, many times to my heart. I’ve encountered evil and demons, including feeling demons leave my body. There’s a lot I question as well, but I can never go back on my belief. One day I just started speaking in tongues. It’s all very real to me. Easy? No! I’ve denied myself and haven’t experienced worldly abundant life, but I trust God. Faith is faith. It’s a matter of faith. I get you, but I’m saddened that you left the faith due to intellect and logic. Gods not really logical, he’s mysterious- that’s where faith comes in.
You sound like me 18 years ago when i went looking to see if what i believed was true. 100 years after the flood story was the tower of babel where 8 people would have to become thousands to take on a large building project in 3 generations.
Obviously you didn't get sound teaching to build a strong foundation for your faith when you werer in the church, the enemy roams about like a lion seek whom he might destroy and he had you for lunch.!
@@sashastrain1700 My friend if you know Christ died for our sins was buried and that He rose again, on the third day. 1st Corinthians 15:3-4. Thats all the seeking you need, who can fault you for that?
@@sashastrain1700 Friend, it really happened the death and resurrection of Christ has been debated and documented by non christians for years and the concensus it that It happened.
Do you know about Steven Hassan? He is a scholar and doctor who has been helping people leave cults for 50 years. He did his doctoral dissertation on mind control. It will blow your mind lol
@@shangoshow Thanks for mentioning him, I didn’t know about him. Going to check it out. I love when people talk about how this is deeply related in the mind.
I second this! Steven Hassan is a good dude. He has opened a lot of peoples' eyes who had been sucked into cults and (like high demand organizations and churches).
You didn't prove that it didnt't happen. You just proved that there wasn't evidence. Those are two different things. The apostles were martyred for their faith in Jesus Christ, they wouldn't die over a lie. You are clearly asking the right questions, but you aren't asking God. When you have your own revelation with Him, you will believe again. If you don't believe in God, then you must ask yourself who created the first human being, and many other things the Bible explains. Without a God, who decides what's objectively right and wrong? If you have no faith in God anymore, you're just a moral relativist, which is simply subjective opinions of right or wrong based on who you ask. But you know that there is a clear objective distinction between right and wrong and it's because of God. Also, Yahweh is not the name of God. Its YAHUAH. And his son's name is YAHUSHA. Stop following religion, and start seeking Jesus Christ.
Assertions made without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence - Hitchens Razor Therefore, everything you said is dismissed. May science ( theory of evolution) continue to bless you and your family.
@@RobertCharles-i1kmay Jesus Christ the son of god bless you. science doesn't create, science proves the creation. Science ALWAYS manages to prove god.
I left christianity because there are too many contradictions, too much absurdity, too much evidence that contradicts science, too many good and kind hearted people who aren't christians and who aren't going to hell because they don't believe the Bible, too much mythology...
You don't even know that Charles Darwin never once mentioned that Monkeys evolve to Human beings in his thesis. Not a single word about apes or monkeys. If you don't know this basic science fact, then your logic to leave religion is fully flawed. Btw, Charles Darwin is also a Christian.
@@varnium Just because Charles Darwin is a Christian and humans didn't evolve from monkeys doesn't point out that christianity is true... I just spoke of why i'm not a Christian. your argument makes no point or has any cogency...
I was raised Mormon, and still believe in God, and if I had to choose a religion, it would certainly be Mormonism since it comes closet to what we get when we actually read the Bible in its original context. But, my believes about God have somewhat changed. You see people having had NDEs, or reading the Bible and what not, and yet still all disagree on things. So I finally figured that there has to be some cherry picking. Best thing about it is, the Bibel does its own cherry picking. And what I got once I allowed that cherry picking was that God equals truth and the fruits of charity, meaning, if I live, love and honour truth, I love God, and if I embrace everything that brings forth within me the qualities of kindness, gentleness etc, I love God. The thing is, witih that definition of God you have to reject great portions of religion, dogma and even the Bible. But as I see it, its the best and only way a usefull spirituality can work, because in the end that means we actually care about all truth, even if it contradicts our faith, while at the same time embracing only those things that bring forth within ourselves the fruits of charity. Personally I even see that being thaught within the Bible, but it can only be seen if you reject most of what people think the Bible actually teaches.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 You two were never ordained. Except possibly foreordained by God for the day of destruction of ungodly men. Where God will be glorified in displaying His wrath on some and glorified in displaying His mercy on some. Repent before it’s too late. Proverbs 16:4
Bro I grew up in southern baptism church then in my 20s started going to church call Israel Of God. I believed BELIEVED. To find out that stuff been add and taken out the Bible that took me out. I had to investigate
I'm sorry you have been misguided from the beginning. You must study the Holy Bible and search for the Holy Spirit. If your heart was never given to the Most High from the start, your are still lost. I pray you find the truth in your journey brother in Jesus name, Aman.🙏🏽
The problem all those people who lift the churches is because like Peter, who went the storm came, instead of keeping their eyes and Jesus they turns and starts to looking at the storm, and like Peter they starts sinking in the water. Jesus warned us that in the last day the love of many will grow cool.
The view that you don't question a man of god is just wrong and pure falsehood. As a Christian the holy spirit wants you to ask thought provoking questions!
Sure, that's what the book says. But that's not what anyone is taught. They're taught to never question the teachings because it's the inspired and infallible word of god. That there's no possible way it could ever be even 0.01% wrong. Even though there's blatant contradictions and errors on almost every single page. First rule of a cult is that the cult is true and everyone else is lying to you.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_ You're comment is filled with hyperbole. I get it to draw attention to a point, but most all your points are hyperbolic extremes. It's like finding the dumbest guy I'm the room to explain evolution then using his reasoning to prove it makes no sense.
@@thatguy1729 I didn't say anything hyperbolic. It's a foundational tenet of Christianity that the Bible is inerrant and therefore 100% literally true. And it does have blatant contradictions on almost every single page. And the first thing a cult does is tell its adherents that everyone else is wrong and lying to them. All of these are facts.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_ "Sure, that's what the book says. But that's not what anyone is taught." -- You literally believe NO ONE is taught to question a man of God? Even in your response I wonder if you're being genuine. People that believe in the inerrant word of God don't believe that everything is "literally true". The bible is filled with allegory and symbolism. Ephesians 5 31 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." No one believes that the literally become one flesh. This is allegory. Is this a gotcha? Yes. When you speak in such extreme language you open yourself up to easily poke holes in your argument. The bible does not have, "blatant contradictions on almost every single page." Not even the most staunch critics make such a claim. Have you ever heard someone like Matt Dillahunty talk like this? No. You could easily argue there are many contradictions in the bible but you seem to take everything to its most extreme IE hyperbole.
@@thatguy1729 You don't know what you're taking about if you think Christians don't take the Bible literally. I really wish they didn't. But they do. And again, that's not hyperbolic in the slightest. Again, it's not "extreme" to say that almost every page of the Bible has contradictions or errors. That's a demonstrable fact. Have you ever read the Bible? Because it seems like you haven't.
Why would you need to ask god to reveal himself? So many deconstructing christians have been asking. Do you think that god will answer your prayer after ignoring all the others? Also why do you have to ask god to do what he already wants to do?
@@thatguy1729 nah this is a slap to op. Quite frankly , Christian’s do this a lot. Instead of just accepting that he left , y’all say some nonsense about praying. How unfortunate.
Seen you on Harmonic Atheist channel. I really like your style and take on things, keep up the videos! As you are a former paster you will help a lot of people see the truth. Welcome to the real world brother glad to have you!
@TrisjenHarris, as I listened to your reason, correct me if I am wrong, but what I heard was because of what man did such as, denominations, different interpretations, listening to historians is why you left. You stated you listened to “historical facts?” You are listening to man. If you stick to the absolute Bible and not a man’s version when they were not there, you would think differently. The one problem you have is you went to a building called a church. The building isn’t the church, but we are. There is no such thing as religions or denominations. I went to Seminary school, and all they do is make you question everything. I did some research and there is archaeological finds, so I don’t know how you came to that conclusion. I ask you to rethink your position. Man has corrupted everything. Do a deeper dive before you throw it all away. It’s better to live Holy and it isn’t true, than for it to be true and you did not live Holy. What would you tell God?
I wanted to be a youth minister in my early years, until i read the Bible for myself. I was trying "to study to show myself approved", until i came across some verses that was absolutely awful. I struggle for many years in isolation, but now have become a little vocal and unapologetic about my values. Truth is Truth and no one should be ashamed for not believing in Christianity or a book written by less informed people. A book of contradictions and immoral actions of a god of love. The math ain't mathing.
This story resonated with me, there’s a lot of blood magic in the Old Testament too. Not to mention contradictions, it’s the message of most religions “believe or burn in hell”. Questions are met with hostility… nah I’ll pass ha!
@@ItsJadine What I meant is that your view on hell is wrong, and most likely stems from pastors/preachers who spread fear. Above anything else, I want you to know that it's an insult to the Gospels. "Men's hearts will be failing them from fear" (Luke 21:26). "Wherefore comfort one another with these words" (I Thessalonians 4:18)
You can have "faith" in anything. Faith is the excuse people use when they don't have any evidence for their religious beliefs, it's not a virtue or a pathway to the truth.
@@yeshuasaves217 I don't have " faith" in anything. Everything I believe is backed up by verifiable, objective evidence. If you can demonstrate anything that I believe , based on faith, I will stop believing it immediately . May science ( the theory of evolution) continue to bless 🙏 you and your family. ✌️
@@RobertCharles-i1k yes you do science states the universe had a begin and rational comes from rational not from irrational. You have faith not in science but in an educated guess that can't be proven by science. Saying you don't have faith in anything is intellectually dishonest. And there is evidence pointing to a creator more than some random explosion creating an intellectual substance.
Well, as I say in my own vids--the preachers and members who leave Christianity left for one reason. They started researching the legitimacy of the bible. And found out it wasn't. Cheers, DCF
I believe there's a God, I'm not against church, I'm not anti-religion, I'm not anti-Christian, etc, but there are some things religious people believe that's a sin that I don't believe is a sin. I don't believe it's a sin for single people to be pastors. A lot of ultra conservative Christian churches are discriminatory towards single pastors, and I think churches shouldn't care whether the pastor is married or single. The criteria churches should go by in choosing a pastor are how well they teach the Bible to people, how well they lead a church, their spiritual maturity, the content of their character, and how good of a role model they are; not whether they are married or single. The arguments I hear as to why they're against single pastors are having this fear that a single pastor won't be able to counsel married couples having marriage problems due to never being married, having this fear they'll have an affair with a married woman in the church, and having this fear that they might be a child molester due to the negative stereotypes associated with single pastors. I think when there's a single pastor in a church, it's helpful for the single pastor and married couples in the church with excellent marriages to work together on marriage counseling. Just because someone's never been married doesn't mean they can't be good at marriage counseling. Someone can still be a good Special Education teacher if they don't have a disability. Someone can still be a great weight loss coach if they've never been overweight. Pastors are qualified to give marriage counseling advice to people due to their spiritual maturity and knowledge of the Bible. Pastors counsel people all the time on lots of issues; not just marriage issues. Pastors counsel people all the time on issues they have experience with and on issues they have no experience with. No pastor has life experience with every kind of situation. The main reason why a lot of male pastors end up having affairs with married women in the church isn't their marital status; it's not having safeguards in their life to help prevent themselves from having an affair. When single pastors and married pastors have safeguards to help prevent themselves from having an affair, it significantly reduces the chances that they'll have an affair. What I mean by safeguards is not being alone behind closed doors with a married woman, not having friendships with married women that are "too close", not going out to restaurants, ball games, concerts, etc alone with married women unless a 3rd person comes along, not going on vacations alone with married women, not counseling married women alone on marriage issues, etc. Not hiring a single person to be a pastor due to having this fear they might be a child molester due to the negative stereotypes associated with single pastors is the equivalence of not hiring someone due to their race due to the negative stereotypes associated with that race. James 2 talks about how prejudice, racism, etc are sins. A lot of religious people believe that masturbation is a sin. I believe masturbation is not a sin as long as you're not looking at porn, as long as you're not masturbating in public, and as long as it's not an addiction. I believe masturbating to deal with urges you have is not a sin. I believe masturbating thinking about girls you like is not a sin. God gave people a sex drive that causes them to have natural sexual urges. Masturbating helps people control their sexual urges in a healthy way, and masturbating helps prevent people from having affairs, committing sexual sins, etc. A lot of religious people use the lust argument to prove masturbating is a sin since Matthew 5:28 says "Whosoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart". That verse isn't talking about masturbating, daydreaming, fantasizing, etc; it's talking about how planning to commit adultery, attempting to commit adultery, etc in God's eyes is just as bad as actually committing adultery just like in God's eyes attempted murder is just as bad as actually committing murder. It's important to remember that lusting after something isn't the same thing as daydreaming, fantasizing, etc. The word lust doesn't seem to same thing as daydreaming, fantasizing, etc. The word lust means planning, attempting, having the intention, etc. The Greek word for woman in Matthew 5:28 is ginh. The word ginh means a woman who isn't your spouse if you are married or a woman who's married if you're single; not women in the general sense. Adultery is when a married person engages in physical intimacy with someone who isn't their spouse or when a single person engages in physical intimacy with someone who is married. It's not considered adultery when 2 single people, 2 unmarried people, etc have sex. I don't agree with religious people on how people can't have purpose without a God. Atheists do have purpose in life without God. Since atheists believe this life is the only life they have, they often try to make the most of it. Being an atheist doesn't make someone a bad person. There's a lot of good people that are atheists in this world. Atheists that are good people base their morality on altruism, the golden rule, and what's good for society to function.
@@salserokorsou I believe there's a God because morality is subjective without a God. There's a lot of moral atheists in this world. Without a God, lying, cheating, stealing, etc being morally wrong is just an opinion. If you live in a country where 99% of people believe lying, cheating, and stealing are morally wrong, that doesn't mean it's objective truth that lying, cheating, and stealing are morally wrong because it's the opinion of 99% of people. Other reasons I believe in God is because of the complexity of the universe, sun, stars, brain, etc. There's B.C. and A.D. in our history, which is strong evidence for a God.
@@denisebaldwin9292 Thanks so much. That question started so much for me: if none of the foundational stories are true, I’m good on all of it. It didn’t hold any weight to me.
One day he will regret his decision,he will wish to go back and be a follower of Christ when it's no longer possible but I pray that he comes back to the father before that time arrives
@@fabricendayambaje9408 Since you are ok with the human sacrifice blood cult, you stay with it. I’m good. Your weak fear tactics do nothing for me, but make me laugh.
@@fabricendayambaje9408wasn't jesus supposed to return in his deciples lifetime? That's what it looks like when you read the bible. Jesus even said that none of them would taste death before they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. He also said that generation would not pass away until all his predictions happened. Can you explain this?
As an ex Christian atheist, I been there before I was fearing the rapture and afterlife nonsense. I was believing things don’t show exist. Right now I start using common sense.
Ok. Break it down. The best answer is listing gospel contradictions. The gospel accounts contradict each other. Often. Leave all philosphy and theory out of it. Because gospel events contradict themselves. So it's not all literal.
I would like to see you on Jay Dyer. I think you have far too little knowledge of the Bible and the Christian faith itself, and you grew up with false teachings like many Protestants. Oh, and one more thing: I don't believe your story that you were a preacher for 20 years. You simply don't articulate yourself well enough and don't provide any examples, and if you do, they are personal experiences 🤣🤣
Powerful bro! I wished more black people would get away from the shackles of Christianity but most people in general don’t read and or take time to properly research!
The bible literally say let us reason together. Questioning is not a sin my brother u r just an example of the falling away in the last days. Don't worship pastors priests or denominations examine the scriptures. Brother u sound like me being saved since 25 but only discovering the Word of God now however I found it amazing. You've not matured well in the faith u acting like a baby about literal or not etc. See it as a revelation and thank God. Hope u found your way back
Your right it takes self discipline to understand and keep faith because the devils snake will slither around your feet and up to your head to give you intrusive thoughts.
It’s folklore. Changes over time, according to your culture and your experience. Sure, they take the same book, but that books is actually 66 books, written over centuries, studied over centuries, subtle changes to the interpretation of a word here and there. You show up two Sundays out of a month. You space out during the teaching on Wednesdays. Your Sunday School teachers when you’re a kid are all amateurs-they tell you how they understood it when they were a kid. They don’t really know what they’re talking about. It’s folklore.
@@radosawszmid7822 Thanks for stopping by. I wear my membership proudly. From one free thinker to another, journey well, life is so much better… I totally agree.
Jesus died and rose on the 3rd day. Let's say Jesus died 12 noon. From 12 noon Good Friday to 12 noon Saturday is 1 DAY. From 12 noon Saturday to Sunday morning is not even 2 DAYS!😮 well JUST BELIEVE. Ok.. so if I just believe that he rose on Eastarte Sunday why can't I worship his rise on the same date every year.. why am I worshiping his rise on a different date every year according to the spring equinox? 😮 JUST BELIEVE! Joseph the carpenter was Jesus's father of the flesh, and God was Jesus father by the spirit.. but it was an immaculate conception?😮 JUST BELIEVE! AT 9:00 PM in America you look up to pray to God, but on the opposite side of the planet, someone else is praying, looking down because up is down and down is up depending on what position the planet is during a 24 hour cycle.😮 JUST BELIEVE! The Devil is down.. down where? In the core of the planet Earth.. 😮JUST BELIEVE It doesn't matter what he looked like! Well to Satan it matters, because Satan would alter his image to look other than what he really looked like so that you could worship something other than Jesus and create racism.. teaching me to hate the true people of Nazareth.😢 JUST BELIEVE! AND YOU SAY JUST HAVE FAITH. IF THE DEVIL COULD LIE TO YOU AND AND SAY.. JUST HAVE FAITH HE COULD DECIEVE THE ENTIRE WORLD.😮
If you're unwilling to make excuses for the "prefect" book, you'll see how painfully human it is, like every other holy book. Written by men, a product of it's time and understanding.
A Facebook post caused me to question the validity of Christianity and God! I’ve been clean from religion for over seven years now and I’ve never felt better! I don’t believe in anything but myself! Great story!
I love to hear this, I'm glad you made it out. I tell people the same thing now, I don't believe in any of it now, only myself. Thanks for the support.
Thank you for your intellectual honesty. Unfortunately,,in our community faith is prioritized over facts.
@@RobertCharles-i1k Thank you. Very good point about our community. Sadly, most don’t care to see it or change.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203
Yup and that's why people like you are so important.
I understand that you're not trying to de-convert people but beliefs have repercussions and guide our actions. As long as a majority of our people don't understand logic, critical thinking, skepticism or still believe in Adam and Eve ( mythology ) instead of the Theory of Evolution ( an observable fact) our children will never be able to compete on the global stage.
In 2050 black people will stil be waiting for Jesus to come down from heaven and give them salvation while the Chinese and Indians will be building cities on the moon.
"I've been clean" like it's an addiction...😅
I swear Christians in the comments aren’t even listening to you 🤦🏽♂️ I guess testimony is only powerful when you come to agree with them. Congrats on doing the work to change bro some of us know how hard that is 💪🏽
@@JodieJermaine Appreciate that man.
I listened to the whole video
No we are not listening to him im a born again Christian who loves Jesus . As a believer i have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of me leading me to truth and to live the christian life and to see thru those that satan has blinded to the truth . Thru the power of the Holy spirit guiding me i can see what the unbeliever cannot see . And i am thankful for the Holy Spirit the spirit of truth and his guidance in my life . Or i would possibly be like the lost sadly who satan has blinded to the truth . I am praying for all of the lost including the fellow in the video . Jesus loves each of you .
@@WHOFarted9999Lets be real, he just want to live in the flesh
@Josef_Stylin Pure projection, tainted with jealousy on your part.
I'm feeling heartbroken, I was raised as a Muslim but found Christ like a few months ago, in the start everything was great, my Christian friends were happy for me and I liked attending church. Eventually I did the same thing with Christianity like I did Islam and dissected it. Religion might just be cap but I still believe in God and the spiritual world.
Over 30 thousands almighty which one? Stay skeptical my friend
"Religion might just be cap"
And you might just be. . . something far worse :D
Will pray for you though!
The only belief that makes sense to me is gnosticism. It makes a lot more sense than all these mainstream Abrahamic religions.
@T4s14 you are in error and yet you are judgemental. A Christian trait, lol.
I see a lot of negative comments towards this man. I left the religion during seminary after finding out the truth during school. People are not ready for the truth. You are free and it's okay to change your mind and beliefs as you grow. You are on tbe right track and stay on your journey. A lot of people do not think for themselves and they are motivated by fear.
Well said. Fear has folks in a choke hold. They are not ready to find out the truth of these religions at all. Thanks for stopping by. Journey well.
I’ve heard the same thing from other people who went to seminary school and they all left Christianity alone
Based on this logic, you shouldn’t believe in most history with the little evidence that is presented on what happened in the past
@@jherandsoleil6335 Based on that logic, most history isn’t presenting itself as a god whom you should place your trust in. Or one who allegedly died for you on a cross. Or one that says you are evil and desperately wicked and will burn forever unless you accept the atonement of Christ.
Those extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Which Christianity doesn’t provide.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 There's plenty of "evidence" for Christianity. Just depends on what you're looking at and what criteria is being used to make the statement if Christianity is "true or false."
Based on your comment, you can only deny the miraculous/supernatural events within the Bible. To claim Christianity to be "false" is way too broad of a claim.
If you narrowed down the claim to "Christianity changes people's lives." It would be hard to argue that it is a false statement. Although it is a discussion if the change is better or worse.
Or "Christianity's teachings (meaning, not someone who is a Christian but does the opposite to represent Christianity) is a good way to live."
True or false?
And none of those claims can be answered by using archaeological evidence or historical narratives
There is a big difference between mundane claims and extraordinary claims. For example: it is reasonable to believe that donkeys existed in history, because we have plenty of empirical evidence for that. However, it is not reasonable to believe that talking donkeys existed (Bible story), because there is zero good evidence for that.
all of recorded and accepted history is 1) tentatively assumed, if there is later reason to believe our conclusions are false then they'll be corrected, and 2) our recorded and accepted history doesn't make supernatural claims, and they're also externally corroborated with empirical evidence. Try again.
@@Jason-zi8be again, you can only reject supernatural claims of the Bible. But can’t say it’s just “not true”
So many Christians or Theists in the comments quoting the same book that we all know for a fact was written by men. "Wirtten by men, inspired by god." Ok, where is the proof of your god ?. Stop quoting that book and bring the proof of god. So many gods are being believed and not single proof for a single one of them.
Trust, if God wrote the book himself...yall still wouldn't believe lol. The proof of God is humans, earth, universe. Even before becoming a christian (At that time I didn't believe in the christian God specifically) I knew there was a God cause; it's basic logic that humans/earth were created by some higher power. There's no way we created ourselves or else we would've done it again. Every single thing on this planet has a creator, including humans/all living things, the earth,
@happyface3216 I was going to dismiss and move on with my day, but since you took the energy. Let me put it to you this way: you have faith in all you have said, which makes you feel good. I get it. But bring proof and saying it's just logic is saying you have no proof but expect everyone else to believe what you believe because it makes you feel good. If I said to you I have a magical elephant in my room but you can't see it and that it's logical to me you would say I am crazy, but you make special pleading for your imaginary friend, whom you have never seen
@@happyface3216Shit another Dumb Ass, Brainwashed Theist
If you understand that God is not your slave, then you'll understand that God does not bow to you nor will He reveal Himself to you just because you challenge His existence. If Queen Elizabeth won't even do that, so don't expect God to do that either. That's why you will never ever see God or experience His grace in your life. It's all because of your arrogance and think that God is beneath you.
In Gods word the Holy Bible . Jesus spoke so much about faith for a reason . Remember Doubting thomas he was like you he would not believe until,he touched Jesus nailed scarred hands which he did after the resurrection . And douting Thomas fell to his knees and said to Jesus my Lord my God and worshipped him . Then Jesus said this { John 20:29 Thomoas you believe because you have seen , blessed are those that have not seen and yet believed .} How easy would it be if Jesus peeled the sky open and waved then everyone would believe what blessing is there in that ? Jesus spoke so much about Faith for a reson people have to have faith in just about everything we do daily . I choose to put my faith and trust in my personal savior the Lord Jesus Christ and tell you that Jesus loves you .
You were never born again. Those that are born of the spirit will know Jesus is real and that the bible is true. The scriptures come alive only to those that have the Holy Spirit. Out of love my brother I’m telling you that you are deceived. Seek Jesus with your whole heart and truly repent and you will truly know him in spirit and in truth
@@TheFishersofmen12 Those who have woke up from the Christian spell/cult see thru the bs. You’ve trapped yourself to a book written by dead men heralded as truth.
Typical "No True Scotsman" fallacy apologetics response. I'm also a former Christian turned atheist and I guarantee I did all the rituals required to be considered a "real Christian". And then I found out that it was all lies. 😊
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 if the church you were in wouldn't let you ask questions you were not in a healthy church, sadly there are a few unhealthy churches out there and Jesus said there will be wolves in sheep's clothing. They have found evidence of the exodus mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia,and Sodom an Gomorrah is near the dead sea where they have evidence look it up on utube.Jesus is coming back heaven and hell are real we all will see that when we die and God don't want anyone in hell.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_me when i deny history
@@_MADAMIMADAM_ typical fallacy fallacy. Thinking your claim is more valid because you called out someone else’s fallacy
I stopped because they told me to "study the bible". The more i looked into it the more confused i got. I dropped the bible and picked up a guitar and never looked back!
That's a dumb reason. That's like quitting English in school, cuz the teacher told you to read.
@chapmaned24 but then that'll be like the english teacher telling you to read a book about slavery regulation and god committing mass genocide, then saying "God did it out of love!"
Both senarios, I'm going to look at you like you're crazy. I also didn't have a reason to stay in the damn religion to begin with, especially if it considers homosexuality an "abomination" for no apparant reason.
If you want a better rounded out answer, i made one here - ruclips.net/video/f7yBewpeN9g/видео.html
@chapmaned24 i made a more rounded response on why i left christianity: ruclips.net/video/f7yBewpeN9g/видео.html
I would give you my reasoning here, but every time i send my responses, youtube deletes them.
@itzswirlzz OK, I'll check it out. I'm flabbergasted that MANY preachers are leaving the faith in this time frame of life. And bragging about it.
@@chapmaned24 Well, leaving it is one thing. Bragging about it is something I'd never do. Christianity in the US is declining (and will continue to decline), and that is what inspired me to study the bible and the religion as a whole.
I won't knock people who follow faith just because it makes them feel good or is a solid routine to stand on in morality, i knock people that uses it as a fear-mongering tactic or give the religion a bad look.
Dude had no business teaching anyone 2 years after being “saved”. But I’m also not surprised because he has a charismatic background, which is the least theologically sound “denomination of Christianity”, and that’s putting it very mildly.
I’ll be praying for you though🙏🏿
@@PTenteh How did he become a pastor leading people with only 2 years of walking with Christ?
@@nexus8633 not sure how, especially when Paul has said about the role of a pastor/overseer: “He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.”
1 Timothy 3:6 ESV. “But where sin abounds, grace abounds more” praying that the Lord gives him grace and true faith 🙏🏿
😆 Wait til you find out Paul didn’t write 1st Tim.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 oh boy 🤦🏿♂️. Can you at least back up your claim with some evidence?
@PTenteh Paul was dead by the time it was written, along with Titus lol also Revelation was written after the apostle John died just in case just like you were told it was John, one of the 12 apostles. In fact Martin Luther didn't even consider it canon but kept it in the bible anyways and put it at the end
Nope, as an ex atheist that prayed earnestly for God to reveal himself to me... he definitely DOES exist.
Same. 🔥 🕊️
Amen! Praise Jesus! Yes He does reveal Himself to all who seek Him!
Demonstrate it.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203, that’s something you don’t seem to understand. Salvation is in having a personal relationship with our Creator through our faith in Christ. You think faith in God is found in religion, but religion was established to lead you away from God. I could list all the historical events that God said would happen hundreds and even thousands of years before they occurred, and how they were fulfilled exactly as God says. I could point to infinite examples within the creation itself that show intelligent design, or to the scriptures of God’s description of His creation that we didn’t learn until recently that things in the creation are EXACTLY as God’s Word says, and none of that would change your mind. Only the Holy Spirit can give you the faith to truly believe, so you need to ask Him to show you, not other people who have no power to convict you of God’s truth. I left religion, and I found Christ, and only then was I spiritually regenerated by faith that God Himself gave me. He continues to uphold my faith. Do I understand everything that happens in this world? Or do I understand everything? No, but I look to God and His Word for wisdom and understanding, and I’m completely aware of my shortcomings, but I know the spiritual forces at work in this world, the wicked spirits, and the Spirit of YHVH, and I know that YHVH is the One who is working all things for His glory, and even the evíI that’s done is turned around for good by YHVH. It’s okay not to understand everything, because we are human, not God. There’s a verse that says “LORD, I believe. Help my unbelief”. The man acknowledged his lack of faith, but He knew that Jesus had the power to take away his unbelief. He asked Jesus, Almighty YHVH in the flesh, to take away his unbelief, not another person. If you want to restore your faith in Jesus, then you need the Author of our faith, God Himself, to take away your unbelief, and change your heart to flesh, because you have hardened your heart against God. All who seek Jesus, JESUS and NOT RELIGION, with their whole heart will find Him. If my faith was in religion rather than Christ alone, I would still be lost.
I'm a non-believer. What was revealed, so that I may CLEARLY see God too? Oh btw, don't say it's only personal, because truth isn't personal, the same way gravity isn't personal. It can be demonstrated, or it cant...What was the proof that made you a theist?
I relate with you on the asking questions part man, went through deconstruction myself. I'm tackling much of the questions tackled here ( Reliability of the Bible, God's existence ) I started reading books, internet, debates. But it actually has made my confidence in Christianity stronger.
And respectfully 12:00 your presupposing NT isn't a historical document ( or isn't enough ) recordings of what Jesus did. If your open to some evidence Dr. Wallace's video "Is What We Have Now What They Wrote Then?" put some perspective for me.
Blessings man, and I hope you take some time to look into the video.
@@rewordua2273 No thanks
Straight yappathon
Amen brother! Ask questions, seek the truth. Most people who don’t want to know God because the “church” hurt them. They take it out on Christ rather than questioning the traditions of man.
@@scottbee6638 How about you question your God gang
@@JustJacy_ is anyone in the “gang” that you consult about any topic perfect ?
I pray i always stay with my LORD and Savior JESUS CHRIST. I used to be depressed and lost and got healed ... Havent been depressed a single day since 2012... How GOOD IS GOD. TAste and see that THE LORD IS GOOD.
So if a Muslim prays to Mohammed and his depression is healed does that mean Islam is true?
Do you think a Muslim couldn't say the exact same thing as a justification for his God.
Read Exodus 21 and Leviticus 25, then come tell us how GOOD he is.
May Science and logic continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family.
@@RobertCharles-i1kbro commited blasemphy praying to a satanic being isnt same as one true god
@@RobertCharles-i1k The difference is this actually happened... And no Mohamed won't heal you.
@@RobertCharles-i1k I've read exodus ... Been studying The Bible for 16 years ...Seen many miracles ... And you can be a father brother and son at the same time can you...
@@traezaX1
Give us an example of a miracle that other people witnessed and could verify besides yourself.
If you've read Exodus then you should know that both Israeli and Egyptian scholars and experts all agree the Exodus never happened. The evidence against it being possible is overwhelming. Not to mention, historians don't even think Moses ( or Abraham) ever existed. They are merely legends like Hercules.
The Exodus story is one of the best examples to show that the Bible is Jewish mythology, not real history.
May Science continue to Bless you and your family. 🙏
Good for you Trisjen, keep searching for the truth. Religion is declining especially amongst Christianity. You’re not alone
Thank you, I’m loving watching the numbers decline especially in the US.
If christianity ever dies say good bye to your comfortable way of life. If you think your life is shit now, just u wait.
@@mattwill2643 Oooooo, a Christian Nationalist has entered the room. 👻
Seeing posts like this actually makes me appreciate the word more... Falling apostate from the faith is a good sign that the days are getting shorter
@Gods_servant13 well it makes you wonder what Jesus is doing up there then doesn't it? I mean, he said he would leave the 99 to find the one but he still hasn't shown up for anyone who's left the church.
@@captainobvious8983 and you checked in with everyone?
This man probably never fully converted because if he did he would know that the promises of God are yes and amen and the spirit realm is more real than the flesh..
@Gods_servant13 so a man who was a Christian for 20 years, who was an actual preacher for Christ and he never fully converted that whole time? That doesn't make too much sense but I can only speak about my own testimony and say I was fully converted, gave my life fully to Jesus, went to Seminary, prayed, worshipped, fasted, went to Africa 3 times and met the chiefs of villages and preached the gospel, and actually worked at my church for about a year and a half and I can tell you to this day I never once heard the voice of God, felt his presence, or came close to seeing a miracle. In fact all I saw were the members of the church becoming more cynical, arrogant, and fat off the offerings. It's not that this creator wasn't fully converted or that I wasn't fully converted but the lack of an actual experience with what's supposed to be the closest relationship you'll ever have was just too big to ignore.
@@Gods_servant13 no true scotsman fallacy, is it really that inprobable to you that somebody deconverted from a completely unsubstantiated, and incoherent religion by applying basic scepticism? you should try it for once instead of saying this guy was never a true christian with no evidence for that claim, he used to be a preacher and very likely knows the bible better than you do.
😂😂😂😂
You said you did research, did you even bother to look up the church fathers to see if your beliefs actually matched the early church and how they understood scripture?
You said you wondered why there were so many denominations. It is because people try to read their own beliefs into it and dont read early christian/second temple judasim culture.
Knowing Hellenistic writing styles, and/or development of writing style pre and post enlightment/printing press, certainly helps as well.
People see things as they are now/culture/thought processes and assume everyone for all of history had those same ideas.
There was many sects of Christianity before the Roman empire made an orthodox version.
The early church fathers disagreed on so much, like the divine nature of jesus and his relation to God, which is a fundamental part of "Christianity" today, this would probably weaken your faith, because it shows how much of your beliefs are just interpretation.
@@Era-lk1lo I'm eastern Orthodox. They teach church history quite well, as well as a bit of theology.
Like one of the first heresy's (gnosticism) actually believed Jesus wasn't human and just appeared to be human.
The heresy you are referring to was started by Arius. Who was born in 256AD and there are no other writings of people denying Jesus as God before him.
All of these things can be traced back in history. You guys act like we don't have thousands of years of writing on this stuff.
@@Era-lk1lo Moreover you act like because some people had differing beliefs it discredits the whole institution. But people are allowed to have wrong beliefs, as it doesn't change the truth.
Like the existence of flat earthers, doesn't cast doubt on the earth being round and gravity's existence.
@@KillerofGods Arianism was very popular around the times of Arius but saw more popularity post the nicene council, it's important to note not everyone who we label as Arian now would have seen themselves as Arian, post nicene council, Nicene theologians used "Arian" to attack anybody who didn't agree with the divine trinity (homoousios)
I think you should look into Arian and Nicene conflicts, at points in the 3rd century people like Nazianzus had a small church in Constantinople while his Arian rival held the city's main cathedral in the early 380ad
Just look at how Saint Jerome referred to Arianism. the battle between Nicene and Arianism is so important in Christianity.
Read Daniel Williams - "Ambrose of Milan and the end of the Arian-Nicene conflicts" it goes into how The Nicene council tried to discredit Arianism and some of the tactics they used.
@@Era-lk1lo Oh yeah arianism got pretty big and threatened to take over the church. It certainly didnt help that Constantine leaned towards Arianism.
And people often like to talk about Nicea, but conveniently forget Julian the apostate right afterwards.
Anyways, just because a bunch of people believed something wrong doesn't cast doubt on the truth. Again to use the flat earthers argument. The Greek philosophers already knew the world was round (and estimated it's size) just because a lot of people didn't believe them, doesn't mean what they said wasn't true.
Also thanks for the book recommendation, I'll check it out. It sounds like an interesting read.
The earliest sources about Jesus before Paul’s writings likely date back to the very first years after Jesus’ death, which is typically considered to be around 30-33 AD. These pre-Pauline traditions can be traced back to the following periods:
1. Oral Traditions (30-50 AD): Shortly after Jesus’ death, his followers began to share stories, teachings, and beliefs about his resurrection. This period, often referred to as the “oral tradition” phase, may have started immediately after the events of Jesus’ crucifixion. This oral tradition formed the basis of much of what was later written down.
2. Early Creeds and Hymns (30s-40s AD): Some of the material embedded in Paul’s letters is thought to be very early. For example, the creed in 1 Corinthians 15:3-7, which speaks about the death, burial, resurrection, and post-resurrection appearances of Jesus, is considered by many scholars to have been formalized within just a few years after Jesus’ death. Paul writes that he “received” this tradition, indicating it was already in circulation before he began his ministry.
3. The Jerusalem Church (30s AD): The earliest Christian community, led by figures like James (Jesus’ brother) and Peter, likely preserved and spread teachings about Jesus. This community, centered in Jerusalem, would have been active right after Jesus’ death, providing another early source of information about Jesus’ life and significance.
Therefore, while Paul’s letters date from around 50-60 AD, the traditions and sources he drew from were likely established within a few years of Jesus’ death, meaning they could date back to the early 30s AD.
Perfect!
Add to that the extra biblical testimonies of secular historians like Tacitus, Josephus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger etc.
@jayseth Bro! A simple google search will help you identify non biblical accounts. To name a few: Pliny the Younger, The Babylonian Talmud, Claudius Tacitus, Flavius. Your not even trying. There is so much information out there now that refutes this. I even asked AI and it gave me sources that talk about Jesus and Christian within 50 years of the account. Also someone also commented and gave you break down of the account within 30 years. My question again to you which you did not answer is,What is the proposed "sin" that you're dealing with? Let me ask plainly, if you were a "Christian" what are the top three sins you would be committing?
@@antonioperez4091 shhh.. In the 21st century mind, oral traditions are not a thing....the generation that is scientific and enlightened can only see ancient texts through their myopic 21st-century eyes...
"Faith is the substance of things hoped for , evidence of things unseen." Hebrews 11:1
@@delandomcwilliams5737 Faith is self deception.
Faith is pretending to know what you don’t know.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 Faith is not knowing at all. It's not knowledge. It's belief. That's why Jesus said to Thomas blessed are those who have not seen me and believe.
@@delandomcwilliams5737Amen
@@TrisjensChronicles1203that’s your opinion, which is subjective . Faith is what is written in Hebrew 11:1, and its objective. Deprived of all feelings.
@delandomcwilliams5737 - Do you apply that logic to anything else of critical importance in life? Or just make an exception for religion?
For example, do you accept "faith-based" diagnosis from the doctors prior to surgery, or do you need that silly thing called evidence?
How about legally...Would you accept a faith-based verdict from a judge or jury that wasn't in your favor? I mean, no evidence, no proof of anything, just based on faith? If not, why?
Frankly, these are some of the laziest arguments against Christianity I've ever heard. How is the bible mythological? Which history did you read that disprove the existence of a historical Jesus? What are your sources/evidence for the claims you're making against the bible? Where did you get the idea that belief in God is void of evidence?
@@t-mas You sound hurt…
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 this person has some good questions, would you be able to elaborate further on these questions?
@@kubiyoshi2744 You totally misunderstood my argument. It’s not against a historical jesus.
@@kubiyoshi2744 Many people die for many things that aren’t true. Obviously, at the time, they thought it was true. Just like all deconverts. Until they find out it isn’t. Some die, never finding out.
Also to note, you might wanna read: The Myth of persecution by Candida Moss. The martyr narrative is a fake one. No need for fake history when we have real history showing what really happened.
Brother, it was brave of you to share your testimony and I appreciate it. Having said that, I think you may want to revisit some things.
1. Discovering that some things in the Bible are not literal does not invalidate the entire theology.
2. We have extra-biblical evidence for Jesus’s life beyond Josephus’ writings (Clement of Rome, Suetonius, Ignatius of Antioch, and more).
3. Archaeologists HAVE found tangible evidence for Jesus’ life: we have the “Pilate Inscription” (confirms the existence of Pontius Pilate who ordered His death); and we have the Caiaphas Ossuary (burial box inscribed w the name of the high priest involved in Jesus’ trial, which is corroborated in the New Testament)
4. Absence of overwhelming archaeological evidence is not a reason to dismiss Jesus’ story has mere fiction. People were ready to “write off”the Bible as a corrupted text until discovering the Codex Sinaiticus in 1844 and the Dead Sea scrolls in 1946. These discoveries were nearly 2000 years after Jesus’ life! And we didn’t even know much about ancient life in general until we discovered the Rosetta Stone and learned how to decode ancient writings. So, just because scientists have not excavated anything during your short lifetime doesn’t mean they won’t find more evidence in the future, especially as technology continues to advance.
5. The fact that we don’t have tons of contemporary writings about Jesus is not a cause for concern. The Roman Emperor Tiberius was the most powerful man during Jesus’ time, yet all we know about him comes from just 4 biographies written AFTER his death. The writers were Suetonius, Tacitus, Cassius Dio, and Payerculus. Likewise, Jesus’ life was recounted by 4 biographers as you know: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
So if you want to “throw the whole book away” you might as well throw away everything you think you know about ancient history too! I can imagine how devastating it was to feel like you were lied to. But I’m encouraging you to reconsider your decision, because deep down I believe you know He is the way, the truth, and the life! God Bless.
@@sC-ho5xx Na, I’m good.
Just curious, if you don’t mind me asking… do you reject the idea of there being a supernatural deity at all? Or do you just reject Christianity?
@ I reject all superstitions and all god concepts.
I hear you but I’m a little confused. You seem to appeal to history/science as a basis for why you reject Jesus. But the latest scientific evidence also suggests that there is a creator (even if you don’t want to call the creator “God”). So while I understand that you reject the Christian worldview specifically, I don’t see why that necessarily means you need to reject the concept of a deity/creator. It’s like throwing the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. You seem like a pretty smart guy, but it would also seem intellectually lazy to abandon the idea of theism or even deism
@@sC-ho5xx I use many things to reject Jesus/bible.
You’re presupposing that there is a creator. Superstitions aren’t healthy to me.
I have no good reason to believe or evidence for the concept of a deity/creator. I have no use for theism or deism. Those are crutches to live life that I don’t subscribe to, neither are they needed for me to get thru understanding life.
It’s like why put my mind in a mental prison over unsubstantiated nonsense like theism or deism…. Totally unnecessary in my hypothesis.
I was an atheist and changed to a Christian. I look at the Bible like some see the 48 laws of power. I believe lots of the Bible was written to give you a path to living a good life. Real or not, if you follow the Bible, morally you can't go wrong for most of it. And I leave it at that. Some don't need moral adjustments, but I know I did. I treat people better, I try not to judge people. And I don't over indulge in drinking or be out in them streets like I used to. That's what the Bible has done for me. Real or fake.
'''Morally you can't go wrong for most of it''
Oh boy, have you actually read the Bible? It is so easy to morally improve the Bible in many ways, that fact alone should tell you that this book was written by ignorant people instead of an omniscient morally perfect being. So yeah, definitely fake lol.
@@Koltkaze He has never read it, or he has read it and god wouldn't let him comprehend it.
So provide the verifiable, objective evidence that you found that proves the Bible is true?
What method did you use to determine the Koran and BOM are false but the Bible is true?
PS. I already know you won't / can't answer those questions. So when you do get some evidence, let us know. ✌️
May science continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family.
@@LogicalThoughts803 I can go wrong with it morally. Did a video about god not being good morally. The Bible is one of the worst for morality.
But I get some people need it.
I have a better foundation for morality now that I don't believe in the bible anymore.
Hey man. I have so many questions about Christianity, but the biggest downside for me is faith-based salvation and the problem of Hell. I find it extremely hard to believe in God who would send good people to eternal damnation for not believing in Christ. Idk if I can believe based on that any more 😢
Once i realized the flood story was trash, it was all over. Most Christians have never actually read all of the bible. They've been reading the same book for 20, 30, 40 + years but just can't seem to finish it.
Yeah, once I seen it was all bullshit, no point in me basing my life around it. Fairy tales and make believe stories. As one writer said, historical fiction.
Very well said
Not just the flood but science has proven Adam and eve didn't exist and a second coming is like believing in the tooth fairy or Santa Claus coming down your chimney... Also a lot of the teachings are abusive and self defeating logic.
the bible is easy to finish lol , those believers just are not disciplined .
@favouriyiola1825 so you mean 90% of believers are not disciplined? Maybe they are just lazy, gullible human beings. And if you've read the whole thing and you are OK with what's written in it, then I have to question your ability to comprehend.
You went from believing everything the Bible told you to believing everything the internet told you. That’s a step down, for sure.
You sound ridiculous. 😅 He learned that faith can't override facts. It's called intellectual honesty. You should give it a try.
May Science continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family.
@@RobertCharles-i1k I am ridiculous, yes. But that doesn’t discount that he got some bad advice.
@@DonWinslow-u5w
Please timestamp when he said he deconstructed because of the internet?
You're upset because you can't face the fact that the Bible isn't anymore special than the Koran or Book of Mormon, which you happily reject. It's called cognitive dissonance.
May Science ( unlike the Bible) continue to bless 🙏 you, your family and all of humanity.
Who’s upset?
@@DonWinslow-u5w
You are obviously! Your comment , "That's a step down for sure" is an implication that he's doing something wrong and the Bible is to be believed as true.
You are demonstrably wrong and you're upset ( passive aggressive) because he's calling you out on your beliefs.
So sad to see these comments not validate an ex Christian’s view or even say horrible things like “well you weren’t really a Christian!”
Terrible.
I’ve left Christianity after 26 -27 years and most Christian’s will resort to saying we didn’t have an actual relationship.
I would say it’s the complete opposite- we truly sought the truth and came to this conclusion.
I don’t think anyone of us
believed we would leave our faith one day, but if you actually read the Bible , that’ll do it!
🎉🎉🎉
Blessed is he who does not see but believes 🙏🏼, never ever give up your faith just because our human minds can not comprehend the Most Highs ways.
I literally had an argument the other day by someone whos a preacher and it literally boiled down to them telling me" youre wrong, Jesus is right, and i dont care what you say". I was like wow, it has to do with so much more than bringing reality to people, its such an emotional high people get from religion and they can't give uo their drugs easily lol
@@captainobvious8983 Yeah the dopamine that religion provides is strong. People would rather cling to emotional attachments than factual truths. The cognitive dissonance is strong.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 man so true!
Y’all are all wrong. Only false religions and non-denomination Christian churches cater to feelings. Not the universal church(Catholic).
@@TrisjensChronicles1203a factual truth is that Jesus conquered death. There are plenty of Eucharistic miracles that happened around the world with evidence provided by doctors, atheists and other independent experts. Want receipts?
Keep up the good work bro I always know whatever happen back then can happen now someone innocent just pass in my family and prays couldn't bring him back to life Christianity make you delusional for real why if somebody get injured or something where they run to the hospital not church let's talk facts pls
My friend I so do appreciate the fact you had questions. And to be quite honest I’m sorry that these people in seminary and the Body of Christ could not help you at your time of need. God has revealed Himself through His Son. My prayer for you is that you would be open to seeking more of the Truth. I saw some of these comments that are in a sense condemning you. It’s not our job as Christians to condemn, God is Judge, but to reveal the Love of God through His Son Jesus Christ. Much Love to you.
i pray that my brother here that has been feeling lost find his way back to you my Lord and that you'll heal his heart in Jesus christ name
And a message to you my brother don't listen to what man has to say but listen to what God says to you
Yes, all these different denominations cause confusion but the only peace I ever truly had was JESUS
Thank you! I walked away when I learned the Truth. The Truth really does set us free!
@@sandrapotts153 Yes it does, I’m glad you made it out. Another one living your own life, on your own terms. I love it.
I’ve been deconstructing a bit at a time for many years, having been raised Catholic. recently I’ve just been absolutely floored by the realization of “…how did I ever believe this?” Listening to my relatives talk so earnestly about what they think is like a punch in the gut - they sound psychotic. What in the world
@@zbcrazy Being around my family and hearing them and others, I ask myself that same question. I be like, was that how I used to sound. It’s like having psychosis.
I cringe at the thought of it all now.
I just had this conversation with some family members. I asked them how they can believe this stuff. Their only answer is to have faith.
@@henrim9348Cause it makes perfect/rational sense.
Thank you for posting about your experience. I also left Christianity. Now I started a global atheist and freethinker business and employment, plus - networking support group. I do not want to spam your video. If you, or anyone in the comments are interested, or are a business owner who wants to promote their business, skills, or hobbies for free, just let me know. I will point you in the right direction. Always looking for atheist, non-believer, and freethinker business owners and jobseekers who are looking to make professional and social connections with like-minded people.
@@AtheistFreethinkerGBENSMutualG Thank you I appreciate that.
Went to Moody Bible Institute as well, bro. Deconstruction in '87. That was the best move.
@@kidchriz Glad you made it out, you did it before it was popular and when people didn’t have a name to it. Thanks for sharing.
@ True. Back then no internet. Just recently I discovered the many ‘deconstruction’ channels. Quite therapeutic - finally I feel the support I didn’t have almost 40 years ago. And it makes me laugh a lot.
Watching this as someone who has never ever been to church and raised completely non religious this vid is really interesting! Glad you found yourself man
@@rr67677 Thnak you
God tested your faith and you buckled.
Exactly!
Na, I just realized “god” is a concept that you let in your brain. Your mind makes it real to you and you think it’s true. Plus, I grew up from make believe and fairy tales. It’s better in the free world reality.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 You went to the world to look for evidence of God knowing the Word says that the enemy is god of the world. You aligned with the enemy. I’ll pray for you, I apologize for coming off the way I did. I didn’t think about the way I came off and just let it out.
@@joshhanlon1225 Who is this enemy character? 😂 Superstitions has fried your brain. Lay off being heavily minded in the convo. It’s hard to have a decent conversation.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203wow you might have never been saved ..
Big respect. Thanks for thinking for yourself, and for this vid.
@@naturaljapan7204 Thank you
you are just not allowed to question most things, not to mention the 1000s of denominations and every last one of them is correct, yet they are all saying different things. so i decided to read the bible on my own without stupid translation by the pastor or elder. what i found after reading the bible, is that there is a verse for anything you want to justify, there are no right or wrong answers. so i left religion!
@@23293 Glad you made it out
I pray you are guided back to the truth brother. You’re never too far from His love.
@@AJM_369 praying won’t work. I’ve abandoned ship, never to return. I’m good, you can have it tho.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 the issue is that no one here needs to know about that. It may weaken other's faith.
You shouldn't have uploaded this video.
@@Rio-mf7dx You’re on my page, you clicked on it. Giving people information or the choice to choose isn’t wrong.
You shouldn’t have tuned in, especially if it’ll weaken your beliefs. But you don’t/can’t speak for others outside of your control.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 you just shouldn’t have posted this. That’s the point
@@Rio-mf7dxWell it’s posted, deal with it.
Maaan. Hearing this hits home personally. Some of the very things you mentioned are the very things that led me away from Christianity. Once I went down that rabbit hole, it was over. It took me about 1-2 yrs to finally figure out I was an atheist. Agnostic atheist to be clear. Appreciate your story
@@thaimperial97 Thank you for that. I’m glad you were able to make it out into the land of the free. 😆 No more chains.
From one free brotha to another, journey well.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 salute to you brother
@@PleaseFollowChrist You have religious trauma, if that’s how you feel because you’re scared, why feel the need to push that on me?
You have been led astray my brother. The bible has nothing to do with religion, it's centered around the constitution of God's Kingdom. It's about allowing the holy Spirit to renew your mind, which in turn will align your appetites and desires with God's will the more you yield over time. It was never about following "rules" or the law." The law exists primarily to show how impossible it is to please God by ourselves. Atheism was created by, and has very much been fueled by Freemasons (who are actually satanists at the root.) Who do you think is funding the elites, the many luciferarian entertainers/athletes, and emasculating agendas in the media and our schools? Are you not aware the entire world is at enmity with God? Are you not aware that the United Nations, and the world economic forum have already declared "new world order" in the name of "global governance," through "one world currencies "one world religion and the like? How else do you think it is that Albert Pike who founded Free Masonry, detailed exactly how world war 3 would happen decades ago? How is every single mainstream artist insanely demonic? Haven't you seen the increase in the amount of evil found in essentially any "hit" show, in the form of debauchery, profanity, essentially everything God detests. Are you not aware that regardless of your opinions, these worldly demonic forces are still very much at war with God? Either you are with God or with the falling away so vividly described in the book of Revelation. The bible states Satan has deceived the WHOLE world, and the biggest lie of them all, is that our opinions have any bearing on the TRUTH. Please don't fall for the strong delusion
@@kylebarnett3003 You’re too caught up in make believe to see anything else.
A person can't learn without questioning. A person can't know without being tested.
I always find ex pastor’s experiences with deconstruction so interesting. Please keep dropping these gems brother. I’m still deconstructing myself.
@@divinemessenger2030 Thank you, will do.
Seems like you and I are on different journeys. I had questions and went down the path of history and I found a lot of evidence…
Evidence for what exactly?
I'd like if you pointed me in the direction of this evidence
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 well you spoke about the flood and archeological evidence that doesn’t exist but it does. A bunch of evidence such as geological evidence of large scale flood determined by sedimentary layers, epic of Gilgamesh which is a historical document, and paleo climatic studies. Now I’m not one of those that says it 100% proves the story happened just like it says in the Bible but evidence indicates that there was a flood during that time frame. A lot of this is tracked through the Catholic Church and that turns off a lot of people but when you look at the history of it and the destruction of the church a lot of it makes sense. Takes a lot of reading and research especially since a lot of it tracks back to Catholic/orthodox Christianity where they preserved a lot of the tradition, studies, history and etc.
@@DragonD_Dojima a good start is to check out the Catechism of Catholic Church and the apostolic traditions or simply start with Peter and move forward there. I hope this help. Just so you know, I grew up Roman Catholic, got abused, left at a young age, turned my back on everyone and lived as an atheist for many years until I became Agnostic with some Christian beliefs. In the past year, I stumbled upon a story that I thought was BS, began researching heavy and it brought me right back to the place I vowed to never be affiliated with again… the Catholic Church. Don’t get me wrong, they are responsible for a lot of the destruction of what we see now and how we feel about religion and Catholics but when I did my research and followed the lineage it does go back to Catholicism with an understanding that man has damaged this not god or the concepts of what was supposed to be. Good luck on your journey… I see a lot of crazy’s calling you names in the comments and I can tell you… that’s not what Christianity is and many people have been taught wrong especially since the great schism but even prior to that there was infighting during the Arian controversy. If you are a history buff I encourage you to take a dive with a different perspective. You will find more answers speaking to theologians who are Catholic versus a non-denominational style of understanding the gospel. 👍
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 you should read the Case for Christ as a starters , also try Christianity w/o a building , alot of christian men are weak in the faith because they're lack a prayer life and don't have a relationship with the scriptures , regardless of where you stand in the five fold - anyone with an intellect and stand on a pulpit . the devil does it every sunday - also ensure a group of men in your community who can truly keep you accountable and can beat up for not delivering .
healthy to be a skeptic - at the end of the day . believe or not - you know about christ and when you die the real evidence will be in your face . Stay up man .
Praying for this Brother and others in a similar place. There are numerous sources that could have helped him with the questions he had. It is sad that there are many within the church who don't understand the difference between asking questions vs. questioning. Questions are healthy and should be part of our walk.
Bro..thanks for seeking the truth..I left Christianity about 25 years ago..I was soon broke being a Christian..Now that I'm liberated I only seek the truth in all things😊😊😊😊
Thank you so much for your honesty Mr. Harris. I love your integrity and work ethic. Continue being honest
@@VishalSharma-j6i Thanks so much for the compliments. Much appreciated and thanks for stopping by.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
1 John 2:19
Why should anyone care what the bible says?
Good for you brother the only truth we know exists in ourselves.
Jewish Rabbinical literature , as well as The pagan author Lucian of Samosata, while ridiculing Christians, accepted that Jesus actually existed!
This is an extremely shallow argument.
@@paulral Every. Single. One.
@zacmac2x Because you are so use to using the same book that has you confused to argue back and forth and it isn't necessary to make the point that he made. HISTORICAL BIBLE AND THEOLOGICAL BIBLE ARE DIFFERENT EVENTS. WHAT YOUR THEOLOGICAL BIBLE HAS TAUGHT YOU CAN NOT BE BACKED BY TRUE HISTORY.
Typical atheist
@@aimmortalslegacy2189 no, because it is dumb but I don't expect anything less from atheist
I disagree
Hi Trisjen. I understand where you’re coming from as I’ve gone through a very similar journey as you, but ultimately came back and rededicated my life to Christ 3 years ago after along time being an agnostic. What did it for me was a combination of paranormal experiences and coincidences I could not deny or logically explain, combined with realizing that end time prophecy is playing out exactly like I grew up being told it would. Basically although logically speaking I don’t understand a lot of the Bible, my intuition, paranormal experiences, and current world events tells me that there is in fact tremendous power in the name of Jesus. What I’ve personally experienced has led me to this conclusion even though I don’t understand it. This existence is very mysterious, and watch as the idea of aliens starts to go mainstream. Deception is all around us and once I started to wake up to that my spiritual eyes started to open. Peace to you.
Whatever personal experiences you had that convinced you, kudos. Do your thing.
I’m good tho.
Just saw your story on Harmonic Atheist. Congratulations for coming up out of Christianity brother. Its so false. I'm an ex Christian myself.
@@FemaleUser2024 Thank you. I’m glad you made it out also. So many don’t. Seeing it being false changed everything for me.
You both are going to hell.
You both STINK
How is it so false?
@@KillerofGods How is what so false?
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 s/he said "it's so false" (in relation to Christianity.)
I like to engage with people with differing viewpoints. I can respect agnosticism, aethiests often times are pretty hypocritical in their use of "logic" because when you apply their logic back at them you can literally deny reality even exists. It then just boils down to a modernist viewpoint where there is no such thing as truth.
I transitioned to atheism gradually once I realized that abrahamic religions conditioned the minds of women and girls to accept their life purpose as being a servant, helper or assistant to a man and how harmful that ideology has been for women and children. The church is the perfect place for abusers to avoid accountability for the harm they’ve done.
Women around the world have been sold the idea of being the weaker vessel and being a secondary creation despite the reality of us being the creators and sustainers of human life.
Millions of Women and children been harmed behind the misogynistic patriarchal structure created by religion and that is not something that can be ignored.
@@jadawaite6397 Dam, that was so so well said. Many women can’t or won’t see this. I’m glad you made it out!!
@@PleaseFollowChrist girl you living in death now sacrificing your human nature and interest for the sake of being saved. I’ll watch my anime, play video games and buss nuts peacefully and happily guilt free while you let religion dictate your life.
I don’t care about hell or an afterlife. I’m not stuck in that reality, you are and I will not suffer with you sweetheart.
@@PleaseFollowChrist How is God worth serving when he out here letting children die from cancer and worse? Your God is a figment of your imagination that you’ve created to make yourself feel better. I don’t need a God to make myself feel better I go outside and enjoy me a drink or hop on a plane if I need some self satisfaction. Talk to your sky daddy about why you’re watching atheist videos, are you trying to convince me or yourself?
@@PleaseFollowChrist We live in the world that Your God created allegedly it’s just as flawed as him and it’s because of people like you who rather replace reality with religion as to why the world isn’t a better place for all of us.
@@jadawaite6397
I recommend you read John Burke's bestseller Imagine Heaven.
Here's an interview with him, video:
Agnostic studies Near Death Experiences, finds Jesus.
Im with this brother. This is the start of mental freedom.
Questions:
1) So how did we all get here? What is your explanation after deconverting?
2) Why atheism instead of agnosticism?
3) Do you now believe that once we die it’s over?
4) Did you give all the money back to the parishioners who followed you?
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@@enlightenedone7083
1. My parents and their parents had them.
2. Because I have no good reason to believe in any gods especially those revealed to us by a book or personal experience.
3. Personally, I didn’t remember anything before I was born. So I think, once it’s over it’s over, lights out. I’m ok with that.
4. I was an associate minister, not a Senior pastor. I never did receive all the money back I faithfully gave to the church.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 so if a man and woman make a child... how many did it have to start with? ultimately.
1. Not having an explanation does not mean that magic dude in the sky did it.
2. Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive. Theism is about what you believe, Gnosticism is about what you know. You could be an agnostic theist.
3. Nobody knows.
the 1st question could have no reasonable secular answer at all and that still doesn't warrant a god claim, that's a fallacious line of reasoning to say you don't have an answer to a question and drawing a conclusion to satisfy it, rather than verifying if the conclusion is true. Agnosticism as you're using it is the colloquial usage, there is only theism or atheism and both theists and atheists can be gnostic, or agnostic. Gnosticism only refers to the knowledge of a belief, and do you have any reason or evidence to say that there is some form of the afterlife? coz mortality is a scary thing to think about sometimes but it doesn't mean you're justified in saying the afterlife is true.
Love the video and the candor, brother. Really weird that i attempted to like the video but the like count stayed at '666.' Very strange. Anywho, would love to have you on the show, brother. Peace and love.
@@DDGotAPodcast Appreciate that, would love to be on the show. Will definitely be in touch.
20 years ago I said the infilling of the Holy Spirit is the only validation of the Bible. Without It the accounts are too fantastic to believe. Jesus said this generation seeks for a sign. That’s evidence or as I like to say, people who want an over the top demonstration. But no sign shall be given except for that of Jonah, repent. There has always been a debate over tongues as well as pretenders. But that is a word wide phenomenon when it’s real. There also has been miracles, healings and answered prayers of the specific sort. God is not gonna come running down every 20 years to say. Let me do a magic show for you all so you can believe in me. It’s basically trust and believe or don’t. The Bible is primarily about spiritual warfare. Rebellious angels, the stubborn will of humanity and God dealing with both. A lot of churches don’t even really deal with spiritual warfare and then we wonder why there’s so much chaos in the world. And we really have to seriously consider because there’s the debate over archaeology. Some say there is and others say there isn’t. If this is spiritual warfare and there’s fallen angels set to deceive, whatever the rocks cry out about they’re gonna work really hard to conceal that. That is why it’s written, the god of this world has blinded them so they don’t see and won’t believe. This faith stuff is not as cut and dry as believers and nonbelievers think it to be.
So you were saved at 17 and a preacher at 19? Like a pastor of a church leading people in the faith? For 20 years? Then after you were a pastor you decided to study theology, archeology etc.? Something does not add up.
Did I say I was a Pastor of a church? Or because you didn’t listen well, that’s what you heard/interpreted?
It makes sense when you listen.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203but remember when dealing with religious people u are speaking to selective listeners
Also, you can’t blame Christ for the behavior of the church and the traditions of man.
First, can you even prove Christ existed without using the Bible? Nope .
Let's say we agree that he did exist . Can you prove he was a God or special ? Nope!
See the problem?
@@scottbee6638 Your apologetic slop doesn’t work on me bud.
@@RobertCharles-i1kWe can, and, we can, I'm not putting your presuppositions over both Christian and Secular, archeological and historical evidence. Of course the reliability of the Bible is a factor, but you should also study the early Church, Roman Empire, and more. You probably went to a protestant Church if you think we only rely on the Bible and don't find where these manuscripts come from.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203Respectfully, atheists and agnostics have more respect for honesty than you if you blame Jesus for what people who deny his teachings do.
@@Fil_the_spil
Do you know what special pleading is? It's a logical fallacy and you're guilty of it.
If you disagree , Please provide the evidence or logical reason people should read those books or consider them to have authority or to be true?
Have you read the Koran , the B.O.M or books about Hinduism, Buddhism or Shinto? If not, why not?
May Science continue to Bless 🙏 you and your family!
Let me say. A little something iam a 62 year old man born and raised in Christianity for over 55 years. Just about all of my life was a bible believer. Until I started studying ancient history. Now I know that it's all not true. The sad thing about this that some people are going to stay trapped in this fake religion. To lazy or scared to study for their self. To free their self .
@@larrybogan477 Thanks for watching Larry. I’m glad you made it out. Something changes you when you start studying it for yourself. You can’t unsee what you saw.
That’s why I do videos, to help others who are trapped. Being an alarm clock for some and inspiration for others.
Seeing your comment, really encouraged me. Thanks a lot.
Glad you made it out like it’s some cult? Your trippin little homie. Jesus was real. Whether you think of him as God or not, is a different argument. But multiple scholars of that time, acknowledged Jesus being a real person.
Plus. way too many people around the world who are believers of other faiths or even atheist have seen Jesus in dreams, visions, and near death experiences. They don’t see Buddha, they don’t see Gandhi, they don’t see Mohammed. They see Jesus!Hundreds of thousands documented. So please, my brother stop with all the cap about it being a fake religion because you studied history and that’s why its not true. There is way more evidence than not
@@anosplayhouse1532 Hindus see Vishnu, Muslims see Allah, Judaism sees one god etc etc. You see jesus… The mind has a terrible way to play tricks on you and confirm your faith bias.
I’m good on the human sacrifice blood cult, you can have it homie.
OMGosh. I feel so guilty for even, thinking this, let alone typing it. I am struggling so much right now with my belief with Christianity. I have been in the Bible every single morning for the past six years. I really don’t feel any different. I was then told that I wasn’t praying right, that I wasn’t doing this right. I would pray for the armor of God to cover me the blood of Jesus. And I didn’t feel any different and it’s like it wasn’t working I mean, how can anybody a human being live up to all of that? Meanwhile, I see these awful people who are fine. They have fine lives. I just can’t wrap my head around it. Are we just supposed to be miserable while we’re down here on earth and then we’re rewarded in heaven? I have a friend who was in a coma for eight months, and he is undead. He believes in the fourth dimension like I said, I feel guilty even writing this comment.
@@kimberlydulaney810 If you ever wanna talk about it, we can
You don't have to fel guilty start doing more research on the ppl of the Bible and quantum physics about reality don't be solo scriptura just Bible based
I would recommend, telling this to GOD. Pray and fast and seek him and he will guide your path. Try no food and water for 6am-6pm (Daniel fast), with prayer, bible reading and worship. He will move. The enemy likes to deceive us and capture hearts, but stay encouraged. If anyone disagrees with my statement, we can respect each others beliefs. It's important to save our souls, we are only on this earth for however long, are days are numbered but heaven is eternal. Faith without works is dead. Wishing you the best of luck!
My journey to becoming agnostic started in 2011. Literally, for some of the same reasons in this video!
I haven't publicly came out as agnostic because of my large religious family, but I've been sowing the seeds of questions on Facebook posts...lol
I still enjoy gospel music because of the musicianship and great vocals, but I haven't been to church since 2011.
So glad i found this video. Thanks for making it.
Thank you for that. I’m glad to hear a part of your journey. I know of some people who haven’t come out publicly for said reasons also. I get it. Good to know you can find videos to help you.
I'm a 58 year old Black man, whose been openly claiming to be a none believer for years. The majority of my family knows this. I tell them, I'm not religious, but I do work very hard to be righteous towards man kind!
Love that you started your own channel. Saw your interview on the harmonic atheist and was thinking the same thing as Tim.
@@donaldlawson1334 Thank you so much.
You obviously never had a real, personal, one on one, relationship with Yeshua (Jesus). Because when one encounters this Jesus for real, He totally transforms your life in a way you can never, ever deny His Power, His Presence, His Love. There's nothing more REAL than this Jesus!!!💯
Did he appear in front of you and talk to you???
It’s all in your psyche.
I agree God Is so good. God healed me of panic attacks my body overall. I was homeless for a bit an had no gas i prayed God help me it has to be you getting me out of this mess a random stranger walks up to me an hands me 200$ I didn't ask I wasn't panhandling... God Is love and cares about his children
@@LuckyEucalyptusTree- is it impossible for it to be a coincidence that that person gave you the money? If not, then why does that automatically = god?
@umiboibozu, uhm...re-read what I wrote and really pay attention and you'll understand.
Brother, I’m At 8:27 Of Your Videos And I Swea This Is The Exact Thing That Push Me Away, But The Nail In The Coffin As They Say Was When I Read “How To Make A Negro A Christian”
@@mackmack3890 I’ve never read that, but heard so much about it. The slavery instructions in the Bible is one of the most hideous things ever written.
@TrisjensChronicles1203 you did not study, that's for sure
@@rogerhales9966 Yes he did, that's why he left, don't let your brain go to waste, learn, educate yourself, it's easy.
@@gleanerman2195 gleanerman says there is no God,,,I'm an evolved APE from the big bang
At salvation Jesus hugged me as I sat on my bed, filled me with the Holy Spirit, instantly freed me from deadly alcoholism on a barstool. He’s talked to me twice audibly, many times to my heart. I’ve encountered evil and demons, including feeling demons leave my body. There’s a lot I question as well, but I can never go back on my belief. One day I just started speaking in tongues. It’s all very real to me. Easy? No! I’ve denied myself and haven’t experienced worldly abundant life, but I trust God. Faith is faith. It’s a matter of faith. I get you, but I’m saddened that you left the faith due to intellect and logic. Gods not really logical, he’s mysterious- that’s where faith comes in.
I respect that you have a right to your opinion. But your last sentence is nonsense.
@@diandian9827 I get you. It’s a matter of faith. I find that God is mysterious in the Bible and I just have to roll with it.
@@Tracey..H Well, I DO like your profile picture, so there's that!
You sound like me 18 years ago when i went looking to see if what i believed was true.
100 years after the flood story was the tower of babel where 8 people would have to become thousands to take on a large building project in 3 generations.
Obviously you didn't get sound teaching to build a strong foundation for your faith when you werer in the church, the enemy roams about like a lion seek whom he might destroy and he had you for lunch.!
Oh, sounds like that same enemy has your mind. You believe in a devil character just as much as a god concept. 😂
That’s called mental prison.
And if the enemy succeeds in "having us for lunch," when we sought God with all our very being, how is that someone's fault?
@@sashastrain1700 My friend if you know Christ died for our sins was buried and that He rose again, on the third day. 1st Corinthians 15:3-4. Thats all the seeking you need, who can fault you for that?
@@nexus8633 what if I can't bring myself to believe that, even when I begged god to restore my faith for months?
@@sashastrain1700 Friend, it really happened the death and resurrection of Christ has been debated and documented by non christians for years and the concensus it that It happened.
Do you know about Steven Hassan? He is a scholar and doctor who has been helping people leave cults for 50 years. He did his doctoral dissertation on mind control. It will blow your mind lol
@@shangoshow Thanks for mentioning him, I didn’t know about him. Going to check it out. I love when people talk about how this is deeply related in the mind.
I second this! Steven Hassan is a good dude. He has opened a lot of peoples' eyes who had been sucked into cults and (like high demand organizations and churches).
You didn't prove that it didnt't happen. You just proved that there wasn't evidence. Those are two different things. The apostles were martyred for their faith in Jesus Christ, they wouldn't die over a lie. You are clearly asking the right questions, but you aren't asking God. When you have your own revelation with Him, you will believe again. If you don't believe in God, then you must ask yourself who created the first human being, and many other things the Bible explains. Without a God, who decides what's objectively right and wrong? If you have no faith in God anymore, you're just a moral relativist, which is simply subjective opinions of right or wrong based on who you ask. But you know that there is a clear objective distinction between right and wrong and it's because of God. Also, Yahweh is not the name of God. Its YAHUAH. And his son's name is YAHUSHA. Stop following religion, and start seeking Jesus Christ.
Assertions made without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence - Hitchens Razor
Therefore, everything you said is dismissed.
May science ( theory of evolution) continue to bless you and your family.
@@publiclypreaching You are Bible locked. Your mind is trapped in a book. No point in discussing anything further with you.
Is drowning innocent children and babies wrong?
@@RobertCharles-i1kmay Jesus Christ the son of god bless you. science doesn't create, science proves the creation. Science ALWAYS manages to prove god.
I left christianity because there are too many contradictions, too much absurdity, too much evidence that contradicts science, too many good and kind hearted people who aren't christians and who aren't going to hell because they don't believe the Bible, too much mythology...
You don't even know that Charles Darwin never once mentioned that Monkeys evolve to Human beings in his thesis. Not a single word about apes or monkeys. If you don't know this basic science fact, then your logic to leave religion is fully flawed. Btw, Charles Darwin is also a Christian.
@@varnium Just because Charles Darwin is a Christian and humans didn't evolve from monkeys doesn't point out that christianity is true... I just spoke of why i'm not a Christian. your argument makes no point or has any cogency...
I was raised Mormon, and still believe in God, and if I had to choose a religion, it would certainly be Mormonism since it comes closet to what we get when we actually read the Bible in its original context. But, my believes about God have somewhat changed. You see people having had NDEs, or reading the Bible and what not, and yet still all disagree on things.
So I finally figured that there has to be some cherry picking. Best thing about it is, the Bibel does its own cherry picking. And what I got once I allowed that cherry picking was that God equals truth and the fruits of charity, meaning, if I live, love and honour truth, I love God, and if I embrace everything that brings forth within me the qualities of kindness, gentleness etc, I love God.
The thing is, witih that definition of God you have to reject great portions of religion, dogma and even the Bible. But as I see it, its the best and only way a usefull spirituality can work, because in the end that means we actually care about all truth, even if it contradicts our faith, while at the same time embracing only those things that bring forth within ourselves the fruits of charity.
Personally I even see that being thaught within the Bible, but it can only be seen if you reject most of what people think the Bible actually teaches.
Why do you believe in God? The bible god is just a fictional monster.
Ordained Elder. Went through the same thing 5 yrs ago. Great video. Thks for sharing. About to share my story...
@@TheOver50Guy Wow, another ordained brother who left. I’d love to hear your story, definitely will watch. Thanks for stopping by.
Welcome to freedom. Please share here where your story will come out so that we can support the channel. Thanks
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 You two were never ordained. Except possibly foreordained by God for the day of destruction of ungodly men. Where God will be glorified in displaying His wrath on some and glorified in displaying His mercy on some. Repent before it’s too late.
Proverbs 16:4
@@TheOver50Guy.
Bro I grew up in southern baptism church then in my 20s started going to church call Israel Of God. I believed BELIEVED. To find out that stuff been add and taken out the Bible that took me out. I had to investigate
The truth should never fear investigation. I commend your intellectual honesty.
Glad you made it out! Good for you!!!
Thank you..
I'm sorry you have been misguided from the beginning. You must study the Holy Bible and search for the Holy Spirit. If your heart was never given to the Most High from the start, your are still lost. I pray you find the truth in your journey brother in Jesus name, Aman.🙏🏽
The problem all those people who lift the churches is because like Peter, who went the storm came, instead of keeping their eyes and Jesus they turns and starts to looking at the storm, and like Peter they starts sinking in the water. Jesus warned us that in the last day the love of many will grow cool.
The view that you don't question a man of god is just wrong and pure falsehood.
As a Christian the holy spirit wants you to ask thought provoking questions!
Sure, that's what the book says. But that's not what anyone is taught. They're taught to never question the teachings because it's the inspired and infallible word of god. That there's no possible way it could ever be even 0.01% wrong. Even though there's blatant contradictions and errors on almost every single page. First rule of a cult is that the cult is true and everyone else is lying to you.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_ You're comment is filled with hyperbole. I get it to draw attention to a point, but most all your points are hyperbolic extremes.
It's like finding the dumbest guy I'm the room to explain evolution then using his reasoning to prove it makes no sense.
@@thatguy1729 I didn't say anything hyperbolic. It's a foundational tenet of Christianity that the Bible is inerrant and therefore 100% literally true. And it does have blatant contradictions on almost every single page. And the first thing a cult does is tell its adherents that everyone else is wrong and lying to them. All of these are facts.
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"Sure, that's what the book says. But that's not what anyone is taught." -- You literally believe NO ONE is taught to question a man of God?
Even in your response I wonder if you're being genuine. People that believe in the inerrant word of God don't believe that everything is "literally true". The bible is filled with allegory and symbolism.
Ephesians 5
31 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
No one believes that the literally become one flesh. This is allegory. Is this a gotcha? Yes.
When you speak in such extreme language you open yourself up to easily poke holes in your argument.
The bible does not have, "blatant contradictions on almost every single page." Not even the most staunch critics make such a claim. Have you ever heard someone like Matt Dillahunty talk like this? No.
You could easily argue there are many contradictions in the bible but you seem to take everything to its most extreme IE hyperbole.
@@thatguy1729 You don't know what you're taking about if you think Christians don't take the Bible literally. I really wish they didn't. But they do. And again, that's not hyperbolic in the slightest.
Again, it's not "extreme" to say that almost every page of the Bible has contradictions or errors. That's a demonstrable fact. Have you ever read the Bible? Because it seems like you haven't.
I will pray that Jesus draws you near and reveals himself to you.
Stop forcing your beliefs. Christianity isn’t for everyone. Respect OP’s testimony.
No thanks on the human sacrifice blood cult. I’m good.
@SpPC27 Chill out, dude. He said he was going to pray for him. He didn't say "Convert or burn in hell" or something.
Why would you need to ask god to reveal himself? So many deconstructing christians have been asking. Do you think that god will answer your prayer after ignoring all the others? Also why do you have to ask god to do what he already wants to do?
@@thatguy1729 nah this is a slap to op. Quite frankly , Christian’s do this a lot. Instead of just accepting that he left , y’all say some nonsense about praying. How unfortunate.
Seen you on Harmonic Atheist channel. I really like your style and take on things, keep up the videos! As you are a former paster you will help a lot of people see the truth. Welcome to the real world brother glad to have you!
Thanks so much.. I’m glad to be living in reality. No better place.
@TrisjenHarris, as I listened to your reason, correct me if I am wrong, but what I heard was because of what man did such as, denominations, different interpretations, listening to historians is why you left. You stated you listened to “historical facts?” You are listening to man. If you stick to the absolute Bible and not a man’s version when they were not there, you would think differently. The one problem you have is you went to a building called a church. The building isn’t the church, but we are. There is no such thing as religions or denominations. I went to Seminary school, and all they do is make you question everything. I did some research and there is archaeological finds, so I don’t know how you came to that conclusion. I ask you to rethink your position. Man has corrupted everything. Do a deeper dive before you throw it all away. It’s better to live Holy and it isn’t true, than for it to be true and you did not live Holy. What would you tell God?
You misunderstood the whole thing based off tidbits.
I wanted to be a youth minister in my early years, until i read the Bible for myself. I was trying "to study to show myself approved", until i came across some verses that was absolutely awful. I struggle for many years in isolation, but now have become a little vocal and unapologetic about my values. Truth is Truth and no one should be ashamed for not believing in Christianity or a book written by less informed people. A book of contradictions and immoral actions of a god of love. The math ain't mathing.
This story resonated with me, there’s a lot of blood magic in the Old Testament too. Not to mention contradictions, it’s the message of most religions “believe or burn in hell”. Questions are met with hostility… nah I’ll pass ha!
What contradictions?
If you think "believe or burn in hell" is the actual message you've yet to study what hell and the lake of fire actually are
@@KillerofGods you’re already on RUclips, why don’t you have a look for some videos about the Trinity for example.
@@Fil_the_spil my point is that it’s fear mongering, I’m speaking from personal experience. You’re actually supporting my point tbh…
@@ItsJadine What I meant is that your view on hell is wrong, and most likely stems from pastors/preachers who spread fear. Above anything else, I want you to know that it's an insult to the Gospels.
"Men's hearts will be failing them from fear" (Luke 21:26).
"Wherefore comfort one another with these words" (I Thessalonians 4:18)
The first day of my Biblical Archeology Class the Professor said not to expect Archeology to prove Christianity Its faith that proves Christianity.
You can have "faith" in anything. Faith is the excuse people use when they don't have any evidence for their religious beliefs, it's not a virtue or a pathway to the truth.
@@RobertCharles-i1kit's kind of ironic you say that bc you literally have faith in something with even less evidence
@@yeshuasaves217is faith a good method to discern truths?
@@yeshuasaves217
I don't have " faith" in anything. Everything I believe is backed up by verifiable, objective evidence. If you can demonstrate anything that I believe , based on faith, I will stop believing it immediately .
May science ( the theory of evolution) continue to bless 🙏 you and your family. ✌️
@@RobertCharles-i1k yes you do science states the universe had a begin and rational comes from rational not from irrational. You have faith not in science but in an educated guess that can't be proven by science. Saying you don't have faith in anything is intellectually dishonest. And there is evidence pointing to a creator more than some random explosion creating an intellectual substance.
Bro! Did we live the same life?! lol I feel like this is me talking 😂
@@vibeson1075 From one brother to another. Salute!!
Same. Im so glad I found this video.
Well, as I say in my own vids--the preachers and members who leave Christianity left for one reason. They started researching the legitimacy of the bible. And found out it wasn't. Cheers, DCF
I believe there's a God, I'm not against church, I'm not anti-religion, I'm not anti-Christian, etc, but there are some things religious people believe that's a sin that I don't believe is a sin. I don't believe it's a sin for single people to be pastors. A lot of ultra conservative Christian churches are discriminatory towards single pastors, and I think churches shouldn't care whether the pastor is married or single. The criteria churches should go by in choosing a pastor are how well they teach the Bible to people, how well they lead a church, their spiritual maturity, the content of their character, and how good of a role model they are; not whether they are married or single.
The arguments I hear as to why they're against single pastors are having this fear that a single pastor won't be able to counsel married couples having marriage problems due to never being married, having this fear they'll have an affair with a married woman in the church, and having this fear that they might be a child molester due to the negative stereotypes associated with single pastors.
I think when there's a single pastor in a church, it's helpful for the single pastor and married couples in the church with excellent marriages to work together on marriage counseling. Just because someone's never been married doesn't mean they can't be good at marriage counseling. Someone can still be a good Special Education teacher if they don't have a disability. Someone can still be a great weight loss coach if they've never been overweight. Pastors are qualified to give marriage counseling advice to people due to their spiritual maturity and knowledge of the Bible. Pastors counsel people all the time on lots of issues; not just marriage issues. Pastors counsel people all the time on issues they have experience with and on issues they have no experience with. No pastor has life experience with every kind of situation.
The main reason why a lot of male pastors end up having affairs with married women in the church isn't their marital status; it's not having safeguards in their life to help prevent themselves from having an affair. When single pastors and married pastors have safeguards to help prevent themselves from having an affair, it significantly reduces the chances that they'll have an affair. What I mean by safeguards is not being alone behind closed doors with a married woman, not having friendships with married women that are "too close", not going out to restaurants, ball games, concerts, etc alone with married women unless a 3rd person comes along, not going on vacations alone with married women, not counseling married women alone on marriage issues, etc.
Not hiring a single person to be a pastor due to having this fear they might be a child molester due to the negative stereotypes associated with single pastors is the equivalence of not hiring someone due to their race due to the negative stereotypes associated with that race. James 2 talks about how prejudice, racism, etc are sins.
A lot of religious people believe that masturbation is a sin. I believe masturbation is not a sin as long as you're not looking at porn, as long as you're not masturbating in public, and as long as it's not an addiction. I believe masturbating to deal with urges you have is not a sin. I believe masturbating thinking about girls you like is not a sin. God gave people a sex drive that causes them to have natural sexual urges. Masturbating helps people control their sexual urges in a healthy way, and masturbating helps prevent people from having affairs, committing sexual sins, etc.
A lot of religious people use the lust argument to prove masturbating is a sin since Matthew 5:28 says "Whosoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart". That verse isn't talking about masturbating, daydreaming, fantasizing, etc; it's talking about how planning to commit adultery, attempting to commit adultery, etc in God's eyes is just as bad as actually committing adultery just like in God's eyes attempted murder is just as bad as actually committing murder. It's important to remember that lusting after something isn't the same thing as daydreaming, fantasizing, etc. The word lust doesn't seem to same thing as daydreaming, fantasizing, etc. The word lust means planning, attempting, having the intention, etc. The Greek word for woman in Matthew 5:28 is ginh. The word ginh means a woman who isn't your spouse if you are married or a woman who's married if you're single; not women in the general sense. Adultery is when a married person engages in physical intimacy with someone who isn't their spouse or when a single person engages in physical intimacy with someone who is married. It's not considered adultery when 2 single people, 2 unmarried people, etc have sex.
I don't agree with religious people on how people can't have purpose without a God. Atheists do have purpose in life without God. Since atheists believe this life is the only life they have, they often try to make the most of it. Being an atheist doesn't make someone a bad person. There's a lot of good people that are atheists in this world. Atheists that are good people base their morality on altruism, the golden rule, and what's good for society to function.
Why do you believe there is a god?
@@salserokorsou I believe there's a God because morality is subjective without a God. There's a lot of moral atheists in this world. Without a God, lying, cheating, stealing, etc being morally wrong is just an opinion. If you live in a country where 99% of people believe lying, cheating, and stealing are morally wrong, that doesn't mean it's objective truth that lying, cheating, and stealing are morally wrong because it's the opinion of 99% of people. Other reasons I believe in God is because of the complexity of the universe, sun, stars, brain, etc. There's B.C. and A.D. in our history, which is strong evidence for a God.
@@bikerboy9010 Sounds like you’re one foot out the door. But you find something beneficial in the religious concept of a god.
Your journey sounds a lot like mine! If none of the foundational stories are true, why should we believe any of it? Thanks for sharing!
@@denisebaldwin9292 Thanks so much. That question started so much for me: if none of the foundational stories are true, I’m good on all of it. It didn’t hold any weight to me.
10 years free myself. Please keep sharing… this is doing the good work..actually setting people free.
@@MedicalCodingConfidence Thank you..
One day he will regret his decision,he will wish to go back and be a follower of Christ when it's no longer possible but I pray that he comes back to the father before that time arrives
@@fabricendayambaje9408 Since you are ok with the human sacrifice blood cult, you stay with it. I’m good. Your weak fear tactics do nothing for me, but make me laugh.
@@fabricendayambaje9408saved from all loving god that if you didn't accept he is love he will burn your skin and meat for eternity
@@fabricendayambaje9408wasn't jesus supposed to return in his deciples lifetime? That's what it looks like when you read the bible. Jesus even said that none of them would taste death before they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. He also said that generation would not pass away until all his predictions happened. Can you explain this?
I thank you for telling your truth sir. I've never been a church goer for this same reason...I questioned things and it never made sense to me.
@@noelaponte5670 Thanks for watching… I know what you mean, when it doesn’t make sense there is no way you can buy it.
All you need is faith....ha,ha,ha!!!
As an ex Christian atheist, I been there before I was fearing the rapture and afterlife nonsense. I was believing things don’t show exist. Right now I start using common sense.
@@byronwright7753 yeah a rapture and second coming is like Santa Claus coming down your chimney at night, no chance of it happening
Ok. Break it down. The best answer is listing gospel contradictions. The gospel accounts contradict each other. Often.
Leave all philosphy and theory out of it. Because gospel events contradict themselves. So it's not all literal.
I would like to see you on Jay Dyer. I think you have far too little knowledge of the Bible and the Christian faith itself, and you grew up with false teachings like many Protestants. Oh, and one more thing: I don't believe your story that you were a preacher for 20 years. You simply don't articulate yourself well enough and don't provide any examples, and if you do, they are personal experiences 🤣🤣
Powerful bro! I wished more black people would get away from the shackles of Christianity but most people in general don’t read and or take time to properly research!
Welcome to your authentic self
@@billybobwombat2231 Thank you.
The bible literally say let us reason together. Questioning is not a sin my brother u r just an example of the falling away in the last days. Don't worship pastors priests or denominations examine the scriptures. Brother u sound like me being saved since 25 but only discovering the Word of God now however I found it amazing. You've not matured well in the faith u acting like a baby about literal or not etc. See it as a revelation and thank God. Hope u found your way back
@@yaelhobson893 Try again
Your right it takes self discipline to understand and keep faith because the devils snake will slither around your feet and up to your head to give you intrusive thoughts.
It’s folklore. Changes over time, according to your culture and your experience. Sure, they take the same book, but that books is actually 66 books, written over centuries, studied over centuries, subtle changes to the interpretation of a word here and there. You show up two Sundays out of a month. You space out during the teaching on Wednesdays. Your Sunday School teachers when you’re a kid are all amateurs-they tell you how they understood it when they were a kid. They don’t really know what they’re talking about. It’s folklore.
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!
You're so funny!😀
Welcome to the freethinkers club. Life is so much better here!
@@radosawszmid7822 Thanks for stopping by. I wear my membership proudly. From one free thinker to another, journey well, life is so much better… I totally agree.
Jesus died and rose on the 3rd day. Let's say Jesus died 12 noon. From 12 noon Good Friday to 12 noon Saturday is 1 DAY. From 12 noon Saturday to Sunday morning is not even 2 DAYS!😮 well JUST BELIEVE.
Ok.. so if I just believe that he rose on Eastarte Sunday why can't I worship his rise on the same date every year.. why am I worshiping his rise on a different date every year according to the spring equinox? 😮 JUST BELIEVE!
Joseph the carpenter was Jesus's father of the flesh, and God was Jesus father by the spirit.. but it was an immaculate conception?😮 JUST BELIEVE!
AT 9:00 PM in America you look up to pray to God, but on the opposite side of the planet, someone else is praying, looking down because up is down and down is up depending on what position the planet is during a 24 hour cycle.😮 JUST BELIEVE!
The Devil is down.. down where? In the core of the planet Earth.. 😮JUST BELIEVE
It doesn't matter what he looked like! Well to Satan it matters, because Satan would alter his image to look other than what he really looked like so that you could worship something other than Jesus and create racism.. teaching me to hate the true people of Nazareth.😢 JUST BELIEVE!
AND YOU SAY JUST HAVE FAITH. IF THE DEVIL COULD LIE TO YOU AND AND SAY.. JUST HAVE FAITH HE COULD DECIEVE THE ENTIRE WORLD.😮
At least provide verses
Hell isn't in a physical plane and also, what are you even saying 😭
If you're unwilling to make excuses for the "prefect" book, you'll see how painfully human it is, like every other holy book. Written by men, a product of it's time and understanding.
@@ITSSKUDDUMMY 100%
The truth hides from the spiritually arrogant. Those who know don't speak. Those who speak don't know. Continue on your journey. Hint: look eastward.