Large cluster jewels with 9 passives are also good because you can path like you are doing it with 8 passives and not take 2 small passives. 10/11 are weaker by one small passive, 12 is weaker by 2 ( 12 is rly bad in most of the cases ). Medium and small cluster jewels usually are so powerful that you want maximum size.
@@OSik83 It's one of the challenges to stack by rarity from small to medium to large and listing rarity to stack in order too. I think he was stacking in the video also or explaining it that they stack on top of each others skill tree they create. Unfortunately they replace passives also which actually might make your build weaker. Seeing my arc witch build with Enki I'd feel the best time to use them would be in his level 80-90 zone where he is only using sockets. Often all those give me is more life where I could be giving my character more powerful skills. Just there something new and haven't had much time for toying around. Each of the large clusters are different as they'll have their own inbuilt skills or stats etc. then you can reroll them with different items like alchemy and chance but the built in modifiers won't change just add more. It might be fun to toy with these especially given that if you don't like them they'll refund the passive points used on them and you can spend them into preset tree alredy on the grid.
One of the things I first tested and learned was that notables with same name stack. Of course it needs to be on different clusters but for some medium notables inside 2 jewel socket it can be big.
Thank you Ziggy, I didn't know you could search what the minor passive skill nodes give before, it is making it much easier for me to get a large cluster jewel with minion passives!
I am absolutely loving this delirium League absolute best league bar none and these Jewels are awesome love it breach was my favorite league up until delirium
Friend gave me one when i started my phys cyclone 8 passive points for 160% phys damage 8% attack speed, 10% phys penetration and 10% all res absolutly insane point value
1 thing - if you want to get all 3 notables from a large cluster jewel you don't have to search for 8 passives, 9 will be the same thing. 10 and 11both will be worse for 1 point.
I’m really trying to get into crafting on this game, it’s my first season, so this was super helpful. I like that your videos are clear and concise. Do you have a detailed crafting video?
Stacking Seeker Rune and watching myself lose XP because I'm clearing offscreen and I'm not fast enough to catch up to the packs for XP :'D very underrated, very fun
these jewels are nuts went from 17k es with 5k regen to 20k es with 7k regen while standing still not moveing, killing, or useing flasks., saw 12k regen on concentrated ground. without useing my unique flask what boosts regen even more by 3%
yeah is pretty nice, the only hard to craft is the large with the less amount of passives with 2 sockets that things are insane if you manage to get 3 notables, you get a lot of things with only 7 points.
The more you are away from the start the worse it gets So just stay close to the end of the fog and you can get higher stacks of rewards - exceptions are the armor/weapon icons where you get trash 99% of the time so just skip those after 3 stacks with the button
Dammit - didn't realise you were playing same build as me! There goes getting cheap gear... Think I am going to do the same as you though and ditch the entire shadow area and go all out on cluster jewels for my brand notables. Btw I'm not sure + lightning skill gems scaling is worth bothering with on an archmage build. I'm running apep's at the moment as it's cheap and effective. Shade of solaris or a good rare probably better later.
DONT Chaos spam for your notables guys. Just search trade, most of the notables are going for 1c. The chance of you hitting 2-3 notables you want in 280 is really lucky. Plus for the amount of passive points you’re spending you NEED to hit 2-3 top tier notables for your build, not 1 good and 2 meh. I just bought 3 BiS notables in a single jewel for poison TA for 2c, a friend got 3 impale notables(inc the +1) in a large jewel for 1c.
Can anybody explain how he gets the enchant to show up on the right side of trade when he's searching for jewels. I've been trying for days and can't figure it out
I'm nearly 200 hours into Delirium and I haven't found a single medium or small cluster jewel. I've found a dozen large cluster jewels... what am I missing/doing wrong?
So im looking stuff for my skill Bane. also Energy shield and life or es regeneration. what kind of Cluster jewel i need? also i have no idea what kind of Timeless jewel i need
My issues with the jewels are, that they are (IN MY CASE) not better (more point/stat efficient) on my dual wield physical champion. Besides the unique rage on hit node there is nothing to prefer and the pure stat ones (dmg and attackspeed) are weaker than the one I usually pick up in the tree (I got very little travel nodes, so that makes it worse) I got a set of cluster jewels with almost perfect rolls in every aspect for me, and they seem still weaker than when I just skill my tree. This bummed me a lot because I was looking forward to enhancing my tree with them, but the sacrifices in my tree/pathing seem not to justify using cluster jewels CAUTION: This is for my build and in my opinion, for other builds, they are very worth it, especially if you got unique stats (herald, aura, curse, dot multiplier), or stats, which are seldom/widely spread on the tree. But generic attack stats are mostly even weaker than just the special weapon trees.
Thanks for the video.. Now I gotta rethink my life choices.. Cause I've farmed BA for 2 hrs today and none have dropped... Might be the filter not catching them.. Still I'm using Never sink 7.8 ... Maybe I'm super unlucky.
As far as i know neversink highlights unknown items in green and displays a message. They shouldn't be auto hidden if not in .filter list. I have not seen any yet as well, but for me its probably because i only have been doing fogs that give good rewards.
There are definitely, some that spring to mind are the cold/lightning hybrid stuff that gives added cold from lightning and bonuses for alternate elements with chill and shock.
@@ZiggyDGaming Awesome. Thanks for the reply. This season really looked unappealing to me and I was bored and frustrated with Metamorph so I've stayed away so far, but this mechanic has me intrigued. Not sure it's enough motivation to endure leveling a char, but maybe I will in a few weeks.
from my experience i can see this like : tier 1 > 2 jewel socekts on large one are massives(but quite expensive). Why ? put just good middle clusters with sockets, then just put normal jewels like 5%life crit multi etc etc end u are guchi. No need to spend 2 more passives for small one
anyone else hopes that at some point gg starts retiring or vaulting older league mechanics? cus it just getting to be a clusterfuck keeping track of so many different mechanics.
Wait a minute, wait a minute and stop the presses! Are you telling me that GGG created another item that one needs collecting and would greatly improve your QoL when buying extra tabs for said items? Holy. Shit. Mind. Blown.
Large cluster jewels with 9 passives are also good because you can path like you are doing it with 8 passives and not take 2 small passives. 10/11 are weaker by one small passive, 12 is weaker by 2 ( 12 is rly bad in most of the cases ). Medium and small cluster jewels usually are so powerful that you want maximum size.
Sitting here in the dark casually getting flash banged by Ziggy XD
Lmao
hey Ziggy! was waiting for this video last 2 days, every league for me starts after ur explanation vids. well done cheers
Very useful vid. Straight and to the point with no fluff and waffle. I'm quite keen to get stuck into these now! :)
damn, i never knew they were important. Those large cluster jewels i always sold them to the vendors
It's easy to craft the same jewel multiple times, this makes corruption more attractive.
The notables are supposed to stack so making several same has that benevit aswell
@@OSik83 do they stack for real?
@@stefanomaggio5109 Possibly not all but a lot of them do, was even mentioned in the pre release info.
@@OSik83 It's one of the challenges to stack by rarity from small to medium to large and listing rarity to stack in order too. I think he was stacking in the video also or explaining it that they stack on top of each others skill tree they create. Unfortunately they replace passives also which actually might make your build weaker. Seeing my arc witch build with Enki I'd feel the best time to use them would be in his level 80-90 zone where he is only using sockets. Often all those give me is more life where I could be giving my character more powerful skills. Just there something new and haven't had much time for toying around. Each of the large clusters are different as they'll have their own inbuilt skills or stats etc. then you can reroll them with different items like alchemy and chance but the built in modifiers won't change just add more. It might be fun to toy with these especially given that if you don't like them they'll refund the passive points used on them and you can spend them into preset tree alredy on the grid.
One of the things I first tested and learned was that notables with same name stack. Of course it needs to be on different clusters but for some medium notables inside 2 jewel socket it can be big.
Thank you Ziggy, I didn't know you could search what the minor passive skill nodes give before, it is making it much easier for me to get a large cluster jewel with minion passives!
I am absolutely loving this delirium League absolute best league bar none and these Jewels are awesome love it breach was my favorite league up until delirium
Friend gave me one when i started my phys cyclone 8 passive points for 160% phys damage 8% attack speed, 10% phys penetration and 10% all res absolutly insane point value
I crafted the same for my blade fall build, glad it has cast speed too!
I got a large one with 2 jewel sockets with an additional imaple and a notable with imaple effect. Which is kinda insane
could you share the jewel mods?
not dropping for me =((
Technically it’s 11 passives because it took 3 nodes to get to the cluster jewel
1 thing - if you want to get all 3 notables from a large cluster jewel you don't have to search for 8 passives, 9 will be the same thing. 10 and 11both will be worse for 1 point.
tnx ziggy much needed info , quality content as allways :)
Thanks for the vid. The other (beginner) vids I saw about this topic began where you stopped. Now I at least what is going on with al this stuff.
I’m really trying to get into crafting on this game, it’s my first season, so this was super helpful. I like that your videos are clear and concise. Do you have a detailed crafting video?
Yep . Do ur research, padawan😌
Stacking Seeker Rune and watching myself lose XP because I'm clearing offscreen and I'm not fast enough to catch up to the packs for XP :'D very underrated, very fun
Can you do a video about your build? I'd love to see what you think of the new supports and stacking Mana like that.
Thanks Ziggy. Informative as always. Appreciate the detail on this.
Thanks for the great guides, as always.
I'd really love to see what you can hit with things like Thread of Hope in some of those slots.
Thanks for the tip about less nodes on a large cluster, I just assumed more is better.
Great vid as usual ziggy, lots of useful info here thanks!
Large cluster jewels can have 2 sockets instead of 1 starting at ilvl75, so ilvl actually matters a lot (for larges only).
He says that in the video
Hey. Wait a minute. I dont have to use a big to medium to small just get the small i want. Thats nice. Guess i need to respec a lot of points now.
thank you this was very informative
What is the name of the skill with that blue dude which has wide open arms, I can see that on Ziggy skill bar?
New one, Arcane Cloak
What would be good cluster mods for a minion build ?
Great guide Ziggy, ty! 🍺
9:18 Ziggy where's my links
T_T so sorry added it now!
"that's a lotta jew's in one cluster" hmmm
Lol
Spell damage ones or especially strong for the new wand skills.
these jewels are nuts went from 17k es with 5k regen to 20k es with 7k regen while standing still not moveing, killing, or useing flasks., saw 12k regen on concentrated ground. without useing my unique flask what boosts regen even more by 3%
yohoo at last another ziggyd vid. i just wished you make a ton more on kenshi, they are very funny. Thanks a lot
4:50 i never droped small and mediums :) only large ones
How can you get cluster jewels in standard?
You can't gotta play the League to get league rewards
yeah is pretty nice, the only hard to craft is the large with the less amount of passives with 2 sockets that things are insane if you manage to get 3 notables, you get a lot of things with only 7 points.
LF tips how to survive in delirium!
just dont get oneshoted 4Head
There's a button to end the delirium encounter. Be ready to use it when things start to get heavy
You don't need to go as fast as you think. Try and be considered with your movement as possible
The more you are away from the start the worse it gets
So just stay close to the end of the fog and you can get higher stacks of rewards
- exceptions are the armor/weapon icons where you get trash 99% of the time so just skip those after 3 stacks with the button
So if you can have jewel sockets on cluster can you use a timeless jewel to boost the heavy condensed notables for a super juiced tree?
Are this stuff like deep cuts unique or you can stack it?
Dammit - didn't realise you were playing same build as me! There goes getting cheap gear... Think I am going to do the same as you though and ditch the entire shadow area and go all out on cluster jewels for my brand notables. Btw I'm not sure + lightning skill gems scaling is worth bothering with on an archmage build. I'm running apep's at the moment as it's cheap and effective. Shade of solaris or a good rare probably better later.
Great vid Ziggy!
my summoner reached level 73 now but i still havent seen a single jewel. is this bugged?
I've found a dozen large cluster jewels and zero medium and small, so maybe?
Sweet i only need 6 spreadsheets to keep up with the new jewels!
Nice way to get player to go out of the traditional follow a build guide to experience different stuff
First ever cluster jewel i sold for 50c xD it started my league
DONT Chaos spam for your notables guys. Just search trade, most of the notables are going for 1c. The chance of you hitting 2-3 notables you want in 280 is really lucky. Plus for the amount of passive points you’re spending you NEED to hit 2-3 top tier notables for your build, not 1 good and 2 meh. I just bought 3 BiS notables in a single jewel for poison TA for 2c, a friend got 3 impale notables(inc the +1) in a large jewel for 1c.
I think his crafting advice was more for ssf players
"The chance of you hitting 2-3 notables you want in 280 is really lucky." Good luck getting a notable on a jewel with the wrong enchant.
What build are you playing
10:08 there are all notables, good
So once you spend points in those clusters.. do you get points back if you remove the cluster jewel like when you want to exchange?
very good job
Great content as usual!
Bex mentioned it at some point but, Jewel Sockets and Keystones are going to cost a respec point. So the jewel socket was what's costing you 1 point.
Can anybody explain how he gets the enchant to show up on the right side of trade when he's searching for jewels. I've been trying for days and can't figure it out
can you get multiple times the same notable? i know that its possible but do you get the effect of each additional one?
Tigran Exile yes they stack
1:53 *WW2 PTSD Intensifies*
"Thats a lotta jews" LOL
So what is the purpose of it? your own tree branches to min max your build or are there NEW mechanics you can get this way only?
thanks ziggy dude that helped
I want metamorph back...
Thank you and how many cluster jewels can you farm per round?
Hi Ziggy hope all is well down under
Ziggi, can you please tell me the current easiest way to craft a +3 staff? Ty
... and i thought dealing with the passive tree itself and skill/support gems was already a mindfuck ..... well thx PoE ...
Question: is "jewel" item class enough to make them show in item filter?
I'm nearly 200 hours into Delirium and I haven't found a single medium or small cluster jewel. I've found a dozen large cluster jewels... what am I missing/doing wrong?
Ziggy best at always this is what i was waiting for, thanks.
Can you put something like the Lioneye jewel and convert all the passives to bow nodes?
So im looking stuff for my skill Bane. also Energy shield and life or es regeneration. what kind of Cluster jewel i need? also i have no idea what kind of Timeless jewel i need
you can actually stack identical notables there
low giggle frequency for your standards , +1 from me . makes it actually bearable
thanks
is it ok if i use 2 same passive skills in a different cluster jewels?
at the same time when you put it?
Guys question do allocating same name notable from cluster jewel works? do its effect stack ?
Hi ZiggyD, can I go Kaom's heart? Since I only have a 6L on bow and 4L on assailum
So that new nodes from cluster jewels are like skill, you will have to waste on it or how ?
My issues with the jewels are, that they are (IN MY CASE) not better (more point/stat efficient) on my dual wield physical champion. Besides the unique rage on hit node there is nothing to prefer and the pure stat ones (dmg and attackspeed) are weaker than the one I usually pick up in the tree (I got very little travel nodes, so that makes it worse) I got a set of cluster jewels with almost perfect rolls in every aspect for me, and they seem still weaker than when I just skill my tree. This bummed me a lot because I was looking forward to enhancing my tree with them, but the sacrifices in my tree/pathing seem not to justify using cluster jewels
CAUTION: This is for my build and in my opinion, for other builds, they are very worth it, especially if you got unique stats (herald, aura, curse, dot multiplier), or stats, which are seldom/widely spread on the tree. But generic attack stats are mostly even weaker than just the special weapon trees.
They come in handy when you don't have to travel across the tree.
Are they keeping the cluster jewel mechanic after this league?
"Official trade site," I'm just coming back, is poe.trade not used anymore?
most people switched to pathofexile.com/trade, takes a moment to get used to but after that it's fine
@@r4bblemaster Any particular reason they switched?
Oh fuck me that "flashbang" at 9:40 hurt, lol. Was laying in bed on me phone haha
Notable Minions created recently cannot be damaged is bugged. Or does dot dmg not count as dmg?
Can they drop in Standard League? Haven't found a single one in over 100 Maps. Any ideas?
I'm not sure if I can stack 2 Vengeful Commander and it would work x2
I like system- i like buying bases and recrafting with alt spam regal
Thanks for the video.. Now I gotta rethink my life choices.. Cause I've farmed BA for 2 hrs today and none have dropped... Might be the filter not catching them.. Still I'm using Never sink 7.8 ...
Maybe I'm super unlucky.
maybe just unlucky ive had them drop in act 6 only two so far but they do drop it seems.
As far as i know neversink highlights unknown items in green and displays a message. They shouldn't be auto hidden if not in .filter list.
I have not seen any yet as well, but for me its probably because i only have been doing fogs that give good rewards.
ZiggyD you beautiful man! Thanks
84lvl and I droped 2 small jewels with block and fire resistance... How do you guys find it?
45 oh thank god, i thought I was missing out
A race where you build your own tree
Light blue? you colorblind?
Tnxs ZiGGY
Are there many build changing notables within these jewels? Or is it essentially power creep via skill point efficiency?
There are definitely, some that spring to mind are the cold/lightning hybrid stuff that gives added cold from lightning and bonuses for alternate elements with chill and shock.
@@ZiggyDGaming Awesome. Thanks for the reply. This season really looked unappealing to me and I was bored and frustrated with Metamorph so I've stayed away so far, but this mechanic has me intrigued. Not sure it's enough motivation to endure leveling a char, but maybe I will in a few weeks.
Waait you can socket normal gems.. Damn that makes my dual notable + socket way better than i expected. Here i thought the socket was worthless
How do people get these on standard leaque?
wow. four nodes are op.
Where is the cluster that deletes Drox?
Has something of craft your own skill tree :D
from my experience i can see this like : tier 1 > 2 jewel socekts on large one are massives(but quite expensive). Why ? put just good middle clusters with sockets, then just put normal jewels like 5%life crit multi etc etc end u are guchi. No need to spend 2 more passives for small one
anyone else hopes that at some point gg starts retiring or vaulting older league mechanics? cus it just getting to be a clusterfuck keeping track of so many different mechanics.
Hey Ziggy, is it possible to re-roll the enchant on a cluster jewel?
no
only with the 5 for 1 vendor recipe
@@ZiggyDGaming oooh interesting, thanks for answering :)
Wait a minute, wait a minute and stop the presses! Are you telling me that GGG created another item that one needs collecting and would greatly improve your QoL when buying extra tabs for said items?
Holy. Shit. Mind. Blown.
I've got a large cluster with 170% Ele damage, 10% ele resist and 10% area of effect
First one i ever had drop for me
How do i search for the size of the jewel right away instead of typing in a size specific passive?
Search "large cluster jewel" as item name, that will filter it
@@jamesmorayforamerica Thanks... I feel stupid now xd