My VETERAN SHERMAN is BROKEN...again???
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It's hilarious how tiny the Monster Pro makes the Sherman look
I had the same problem on my Sherman, they help me immediately and send me a battery out, you are able to disconnect one side and still ride, I still ride my Sherman :-) love it
Dammmnn, cracked BMS.
I have a Sherman on the way and looked into this issue beforehand, the new models produced for a couple months already have the hopefully improved side panels that should reduce or fix the risk of having the issue.
But it really sucks for everyone who bought their wheel a while ago, especially since:
- for many distributors the battery has only 6 months warranty
- battery packs are very expensive
- there's a shortage of Leaperkim battery packs currently.
So ideally, the battery packs should be repaired with a new BMS (keeping the cells, rewrapped with heat shrink), side panels modified, at no charge to the customer since it's a design flaw from the factory.
Fwiw 3600 miles and countless crashes on my Sherman and no issue. But mine was definitely first gen and needs to have the paneling shaved. Thanks for the reminder.
@WrongWay I think it is good that you post content that also shows the negatives/problems with your wheels. One suggestion tho, keep the topics separated and the titles more accurate, so people that look for that exact issue have an easier time finding the relevant information.
If you want to still ride, you can disconnect the side on which the BMS failed, and it should continue normal workings just with decreased capacity.
(I think you can even take out the affected batteries, and move half the other one over to even out the weight distribution... but don't quote me on that!)
Yep it should work to disconnect the broken one, however careful with acceleration and speed!
Because the wheel won't have the same ability to deliver power as before, and will stress the single battery and its wiring twice more as usual.
I didn't hear that you disconnected everything and reconnected. Did you even try hitting it with a hammer? These usually work with my electronics.
Dang, my Sherman will be so bullet proof and fail-free when i'll buy it....in 2025, maybe,hopefully 😓🤣
That's my motivation to wait a bit longer. The improvements are steady and as a perk I might not be criminalized, if our government decides to legalize it until then 😒
@@privileguan9127 Where are you from? Here in Spain they are implicitly forbidden because you cannot put a license on it and these vehicles are limited to 25km/h. I will use it nonetheless.
You could say that you have a 25km/h speed limit set up with the app or something
@@rubenayla In Finland, I think you can just register it as a lightweight motorcycle. But then you need a license and need to get insurance.
I think I'm going to wait for like 2 years to get more stuff in the market and pick a super fast one, then get it registered so I can drive it on roads.
Yup, it’s my next wheel in the future, I’m currently riding the s18 and love it so far and it’s not the fastest wheel out there, buts it’s fine to me. Definitely planning on this wheel and hope it will even be better in the future.
looking forward to the power pad comparison!
If the M.P. vibrates and drips oil and breaks down fairly often, it's exactly like a Harley.
As a base holder i use the styrofoam that came with it. As a seat i use the top that came with it. Both are highly customizable and less waste in the landfill. Flower pots are a good idea also.
I too use the bottom foam from the box as a stand😂
same issue, been running my Sherman as 1600wh device. Veteran sent me a new BMS, but it didn't work. They're sending me another one, hoping it works!
Did you receive the new BMS board only, and needed to solder it in place of the broken one - then heat shrink wrap the pack back together?
I'd be very interested to see the cracked BMS board, next to the side cover ribs in order to understand how it fails :)
I hope the new one will work as well.
Sorry to hear about the Sherman Adam. Hope you get it resolved soon! 👍🙏
Sorry to hear about your Sherman. Hopefully it is an easy and inexpensive fix. 👍
Hi Adam, sorry to hear about the Sherman issue and Kate was funny on the Tesla!
Yep same thing happened to my sherman like last month ewheels took care of me right away and sent me a fixed pack that he fixed and moved a cable to the side that the shell would cut into it. thank god that it didnt happen when i was riding at 40 mph haha. Siema love your work fellow polish rider in NYC how you hear about me in Poland :)
If I’ve ordered the most recent batch from ewheels do you think it will have the bms issue?
According to ewheels the latest batches aren’t affected by the side panels. Been enjoying my vet Sherman ever since I got it, so sad that you’re without yours for the time being. it’s difficult being early adopters but I’m sure ewheels will work things out for you
I am just about thinking to get the Sherman since last week, and now I saw yours was broken down..... hmmm should I still get one?
Well damn, I was going to get Sherman as my first wheel, I just feel like on a long run it’s a best choice financially as I am convinced I’ll love EUC riding and I’m in for the long haul. Guess I’ll need to do further research as to pros and cons of Sherman. My main goal would be daily commute to work and maybe some recreational activities during my free time.
I'm in the same boat have you found anything more suited to first timers
+/-$3500 is a lot for this to be happening
not "bt loy" it's rather "bt lo!" for Battery Low!!
You are right . Had the same issue , straight sent out of the factrory. In total took me three month to sort it out. First try was a plain BMS. During soldering the battery pack blowed up. Had lots of luck as it happend out of the shell. Finall received a complete batter unit. So far all fine
Soldering? Did they leave untonfix it ureself???? Which country/seller you buy from?
@@bigbadboogie6842 Well , first try were two BMS. The are located on top of the batterry pack . You have to solder them to the battery pins.Was all warrenty, free of charge.
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At this link you can see four soldering areas on top of the BMS. These are the tricky spots.However, was really shocked , during assembling the intire battery pack went on fire, like a chain reaction. Finally I received a brand new battery pack. All solved so far.From now on I got respect, when working on battery cells. The seller was Chicway from China. I prefer ordering my wheels from China. First they sent BMS only , as shown at the link above this text.
I don't have a sherman but I hope you get it fixed !!! Please let me know what happened to it once you figure it out.
Seems like any wheel you buy needs some TLC right from the factory. That sucks. Most of us are already addicted to the EUC crack... Guess I will have to tear down my sherman when I get it to waterproof it, marine grease the bearings, seal the motor, and now sand the insides of the side covers... Lots of work to put into a brand new product right out of the box...
Especially GotWay Begode needs TLC. If you have a Sherman produced after March 2021 you have the new covers so no worries :)
I’m not read up on Shermans but it sounds like maybe a balance wire broke? That would be my guess as to why to remove those ridges.
HEY BROTHER GREAT VIDEOS. MY BRAND NEW SHERMAN ARRIVES HERE IN HAWAII THIS FRIDAY. YAY!!!! WHERE CAN I BUY THOSE RED SHIN GUARDS LIKE YOU HAVE THERE ON YOUR SHERMAN? ALSO, WHERE CAN I BUY THOSE PROTECTIVE YELLOW TUBES LIKE YOURS? THANKS
At least the Sherman tilted safely instead of dropping.
Yes it's a good implementation of the redundancy we've been talking about.
Everybody wheels are breaking hella fast or catching fire man this is so scary n extra for those in the US because those wait times are forever n wheel aren't cheap. I've been waiting for a EX.N FOR 2MONTHS n if it breaks not being my fault I would cry 🤣😂🤣
The „Issue“ ...“Battery left Side over V.“ ...is the balancing/measuring over the complete side pack. (Battery left Voltage Disagree) The plastik rims destroyed some of the resistors on the BMS on the one pack. As the 2 packs of this one side are 12S5p each and only together combine to 24S5p...now the communication between the 2 packs on this side is dead/defect...so the complete pack MUST shut off....
Actually the plastik rims must be taken out on the other side, too....otherwise sooner or later the right side will die, too.
Typicall chinese fix, btw. „dear customer...please take away some of the shell“ :-)
I would exspect that you get a complete new battery side....as i dont think a normal user would be able to soldier a new BMS on one of the packs.
It might even be good news. Nice huge expensive battery for free 🙃
Or they will ask him to return the old one
Your exactly right on chinese solution. This is what is normally called "containment solution" to minimize damage. After that you release a final solution (in new wheels and supply upgrade to affected wheels on final solution...for free...as its the manufacturers mistake...and in EU / US pray to good noone got injured due to that mistake or your ass and ill be sued WAY WORSE than fries on MacDonalds.... problem is... China protect themselves and their companies so it aint that easy. As long as people buy china stuff, this is ehat you get. Stop and start buying quality from EU/US and after xx years China is begging for customers and need to shape up. Problem is "normal joe" either dont get that or dont care...just wanna ride ;-)
@@bigbadboogie6842 When someone starts producing a wheel with the same or better specs here in the US, I think many of us will seriously consider it. Until then, China is all we got...
You are taking the real wrong way with your wheels. Lol.
Hi bro, just wondering if Veteran Sherman should be good for me a beginner since i weigh 250 pounds. I would appreciate your feedback, thanks again bro
I got it as my first wheel love it 200#
An easy fix, my favorite kind!
I love the sherman
kind of good that sherman has this security, can gotway also have it?
GW/Begode Security
Sad to hear about the Sherman woes, but it does sound like they’ve at least acknowledged and addressed it in more recent shipments. Hope you get yours up and running again soon!
Is that confirmed? Is this a non issue with the newest batches?
@@V1ncentVanBro A friend of mine got his Sherman about a month ago and he checked, the panels had the fixes already.
If this change totally solves the issue long-term or not, only time will tell however.
@@V1ncentVanBro Not sure if it’s widespread confirmation, but I heard that specific info from this video, spread via email from ewheels to Sherman customers that March 2021 batches and newer have this problem addressed: ruclips.net/video/vwm0pZEBjXA/видео.html (screenshot of email)
Where can you regulate the mode of your monster pro?
In your app?
Yes sir !
@@mr_wrongway Thank you :)
I think the same problem happen with the modification on the last batch ( bms problem ) …
why do you think so?
A może warto spróbować odłączyć któryś z pakietów w shermanie żeby wiedzieć który szwankuje i ewentualnie dalej jeździć bez jednego ? Czy się nie da ?
Da sie :) dobry pomysł :)
@@mr_wrongway daj znać jak efekty bo sam jestem ciekawy albo zrób jakiegoś shorta lub na insta jakiś filmik czy Sherman żyje to chętnie zobaczę :)
Do the Nylonove msx pedals fit the RS HS?
I think so
Thanks 🙏
Which wheel is more comfortable mpro or s18?
Depends on surface. Usual asphalt and bike paths/cobble on the mpro. Bumps and off-road on s18
Most of current EUC are beta versions and we are beta testers . Compare cheap Chinese Ebike do German Haibike this is where our EUC are at the moment .
Try to Get ''Clark Pads Gen 2 Universal '' for testing probably the best power/torque/brake EUC pads on the market
One of the reason I like Gotway wheels, they die on you right away or stay with you for a really long trip!
I miss your scooter vids
ruclips.net/video/xKLzLqRgUpI/видео.html if you’ve not already seen this is a good video describing the same Sherman issue and how to deduce which pack is the problem side, it was noticeable when you scrolled through the advanced settings that you had a difference.. 111 on one side against 100 on the other to see the imbalance
Agh!!!... another little thing to do...
But, I still love my sherman.. :-)
0:58 Lol man :D
Did the pedal dip cause you to fall forward or was it a subtle tilt back.
The pedał dip (actually pedals went up) when braking caused the wheel to fall on the side. Kate couldnt keep balance
@@mr_wrongway thank you!
Visit EucForum and you will find:
- BtLow(loy) resolution (yeah thats the best they could make on a 7 segment digit)
- Charger issue (150uF vs 220uF inside) causing blown sherman boards.
- Issue with the new 3" wide rim cracking (and side of rim in some ocassions, seems like they used cheaper alu to make the bigger rim cost less or the same as the narrown one + engineering mistake at the spokes...sharp edges...never good at big loads).
Big difference vs gotway you think?
Veteran SOLVES THE ISSUE BY RE-ENGINEERING (slow itterations as engineers dont seem scholared way up there)
Vs
GOTWAY? They just send you a new spare part...at best..same problem...new part....till warranty is out.
Keep us posted please! 😭
4:25 100bd, it should be 111 for the both batteries
So Good quality Sherman..... And everyone talks about Gotway quality. Yeah right, i would say Gotway is the best quality imop.....
Yet again mine broke again too 😪
lol @ sad on the Tesla scene.
It's probably "bt low", not "bt loy" 🙂
Yuppp
This
Wow!
At least you can partially blame Kate this time 🤣😂💯👍
Nah fam :)
Need a link for those pads!
Just instagram @torquepads
@@mr_wrongway the pads on the monster?
is it working now?
Yess
Es gibt aber schon einige Videos wo die einzelnen Menüpunkte genau erklärt werden... da brauchst keins mehr machen... ausser du willst... schönen Abend... gruuuuzzzz
EXTREME! tm
I know exactly where you should start
You tend to abuse these unicycles 😂
Battery low = bat low
You would think for 3500 bucks they would have all those issues ironed out.
It’s wrong for Wrong Way to be taking out the Sherman
I have 40 000 k on my sherman 😅
Honestly this wheel looks cheap compared to V11 on inside.
Hey can I unplug the 🔋 while it's on
Better not!
It is laughable a distrubutor ask the customer to make a fix for a design fault at home (shave back plastic moulding to avoid contact with bms) - no.
How about you give me a refund or exchange as it was a design fault at new and within 6 months. An exchange for a new batch.
That is the problem with E scooters and EUCs at the moment, customers are secretly being treated as BETA testers.
Thumbs up for the upload nonetheless.
old news, bms crap, I have 5 shermans
One by one Shermans are getting this issue its annoying...
Rides like a Rolls, built like a Pinto....lol
Nice 3.500g and it just regularly stops and dies of irreparable death 🤷♂️🤔🤔🤔🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It’s repairable ;)
bt loy is my boyband name.
"We love your Channel but hate your Intro"
Sincerely,
90% of your 36.2K subscribers
No
French french french ...
dear rider if you want to keep your machine you must already maintain it and clean it in view of the condition of your sherman it is often said that the equipment in bad condition reflects the personality of its owner
Savage
He literally rides over 500km in a week pretty regularly, it's not that he isn't doing maintenance, his usage is just so high the equipment is under stress all the time. Also not that you can do maintenance on these, oiling the bearings or sealing the wheel is pretty much as much you can do other than keeping all the screws and bolts tight.
@JM Coulon Exactly, nothing mr. Wrong Way can do about sherm bms going bad.
Personally I prefer the 2 (or 3 wheel) scooter videos. I don't want 1 wheel devices.
Why are you here watching this video then ..
Bye Minger
GFY
It was good in the past now its excrement
@@21degrees oh it’s all right no need to like your own comment though.