I can't believe you're the only person I've seen who's reviewed a groupset and has said how big SRAM/Shimano hydraulic shifters are! Good to see a brand making nice small shifters, its why I've been using mechanical disc brakes, to avoid the massive shifters!
Great review thanks! I'm looking at the rim brake version to freshen up a nice 20 year old Time frame and you've given me a good view of what to expect.
I have the rim brake version on my tandem. Wireless was complete game changer for installing on a tandem. I agree about the buttons on right lever. I have a problem with my hands going numb and I have a little problem feeling the shifts. Have to be very deliberate with the pressing of the buttons. One interesting note, I was able to use a 11x40 rear cassette by removing a little plastic nut from B screw so it would screw in further and give me a little more clearance. Love the tortoise!
I keep old inner tubes around for instances like shifter slipping. Cut a peice of the inner tube and wrap it around the bar prior to mounting the shifter.
Amazing video. I have the feeling it is very honest. I appreciate the honesty more than any bull…. other videos show. Great work. Is your dial 100% done? Do you use casual or race mode?
Nice runthrough of the reality of living with the Wheeltop system. You mention that the battery level via App is... well... meh ;-) Does it pair correctly with a head unit? In particular does it provide useful information about battery status? Less important, does it show gears correctly?
Thanks! I did connect it briefly with my Wahoo, but I've never found it particularly useful and didn't run it long enough to verify if it was any more accurate than the app. It's a pretty minor issue overall, I just use it until the mech flashes red and then charge it.
@@FullBeansCyclingCompany Interesting. Is that flashing light obvious or do you make a habit to check? On the LTWOO I've worked with, it is very subtle and I barely ever see a light. So I've failed to get in the habit of looking for it.
It says...the battery life of the rear mech..is good for 2,000 shifts.. And the front mech is good for 900 shifts...sp thats it..? Or in every charge...
Para quem como eu, tem uma boa bike com travões de aro, se quiser comprar uma nova com travões de disco e, manter ou ir para coisa melhor, é preciso gastar um bom dinheiro... Não adianta comprar uma bike de disco inferior, vais para uma bike mais pesada e o peso extra ainda vai tar na parte pior, que é nas rodas... Este grupo para quem quer dar uma renovada na sua antiga bike de aro, sem ter de investir duro numa nova bike e, considerando que está cada vez mais difícil achar shimano ou sram eletrónico para shifters de cabo , é uma boa opção sem gastar um rim.... Vais ter uma bike meia nova praticamente, as manetes são diferentes e as mudanças eletrónicas são muito agradáveis... O grupo é algo novo, as instruções são confusas, mas o hardware é bom, a app está a melhorar, tem muito potencial...
@@tiagosantos_ss I’ve seen a few others mention rattling, but I haven’t noticed anything. My SRAM Force etap levers were awful for rattling so maybe I’m more tolerant of it
Actually in the review by VELO..wheeltop said that..the front mech battery is good for 900 shifts...and the rear mech battery is good for 2,000 shifts...confusing...tnx for the reply...
lol that right button is a double tap. Two function button. Half press is programmable. Full press is the shift. Press it half way and watch the light on the hood😉
@@FullBeansCyclingCompanywatch the green light on the hood. Press it half way. Does it light up green? I can’t find in the app to assign it to my cycling computer.
On SRAM cassettes, the smallest sprocket is a 10t. However, a few folks, and Wheeltop too I believe, say this group isn't compatible with the 10t cog. Anybody know if it does work smoothly? Cheers
@@BrianRPaterson I ran it fine with the 10t sram cassette with no problem. I had no idea WheelTop say it isn’t compatible, but they’ll be a reason for it so be wary.
How come it says...in a review..that the front mech battery is goog for 900 shifts only...and the rear mech battery is good for 2,000 shifts only....im confused...tnx for the reply
I've installed 5 L-TWOO er9 and just bought an erx for 210eur. I've had 3 RDs die for no reason. These Chinese electronic groupsets are first generation. Do not expect them to perform reliably on par with Shimano, it's unreasonable. China is also known to release and iterate, because they work where the factory is, so they basically release beta products without telling you. At 600+ GBP, this (mini) groupset makes no sense whatsoever. Either pay 400 or max 500 USD for it, or get second hand Shimano or SRAM. Once you've bought a complete groupset, if you're not saving hundreds, then buy Shimano. At least for the next two years, giving them time to iterate the most obvious flaws (and there are plenty)
You were given this for free, so the title effectively asks whether it is worth nothing?! Somehow, this isn't a good start for a video like this, and I couldn't bring myself to watch for long, even though I'm actually interested in the product. Somehow, it never felt as if I would get any useful information.
I can't believe you're the only person I've seen who's reviewed a groupset and has said how big SRAM/Shimano hydraulic shifters are! Good to see a brand making nice small shifters, its why I've been using mechanical disc brakes, to avoid the massive shifters!
Me too! The sram force axs shifters are ridiculous
The tortoise and the foot
@@cosbro5389 He was on a mission
Great review thanks! I'm looking at the rim brake version to freshen up a nice 20 year old Time frame and you've given me a good view of what to expect.
@@IPlodAllDay Thanks! Yeah it’s definitely not perfect, but they have told me they’re ironing out the issues I’ve raised.
Jajajajaja was craving for attention
Thanks Harry, exciting for the industry
I have the rim brake version on my tandem. Wireless was complete game changer for installing on a tandem. I agree about the buttons on right lever. I have a problem with my hands going numb and I have a little problem feeling the shifts. Have to be very deliberate with the pressing of the buttons. One interesting note, I was able to use a 11x40 rear cassette by removing a little plastic nut from B screw so it would screw in further and give me a little more clearance. Love the tortoise!
I run a 13 speed rear cassette from rotor and a 12s chain. Needed a 2mm spacer to get clearance but works good so far as a 2x13.
Wheeltop just bought rotor 😂. Saw this coming.
I keep old inner tubes around for instances like shifter slipping. Cut a peice of the inner tube and wrap it around the bar prior to mounting the shifter.
Good idea! Ill try it out
Amazing video. I have the feeling it is very honest. I appreciate the honesty more than any bull…. other videos show. Great work.
Is your dial 100% done? Do you use casual or race mode?
I just want to know what bike this is??????
What is the name of your tortoise? it took me 6 min to spot him :) Great review!!!!!
Next time let Donatello do the talking about the groupset.. 🤣
That's a fast looking bike. Thanks for sharing and remember. Ride Save brother
Great looking and functioning groupset,did you forget to put some handlebar tape on?
Marginal gains? 🤭
Nice runthrough of the reality of living with the Wheeltop system. You mention that the battery level via App is... well... meh ;-) Does it pair correctly with a head unit? In particular does it provide useful information about battery status? Less important, does it show gears correctly?
Thanks! I did connect it briefly with my Wahoo, but I've never found it particularly useful and didn't run it long enough to verify if it was any more accurate than the app. It's a pretty minor issue overall, I just use it until the mech flashes red and then charge it.
@@FullBeansCyclingCompany Interesting. Is that flashing light obvious or do you make a habit to check? On the LTWOO I've worked with, it is very subtle and I barely ever see a light. So I've failed to get in the habit of looking for it.
It says...the battery life of the rear mech..is good for 2,000 shifts..
And the front mech is good for 900 shifts...sp thats it..? Or in every charge...
Para quem como eu, tem uma boa bike com travões de aro, se quiser comprar uma nova com travões de disco e, manter ou ir para coisa melhor, é preciso gastar um bom dinheiro...
Não adianta comprar uma bike de disco inferior, vais para uma bike mais pesada e o peso extra ainda vai tar na parte pior, que é nas rodas...
Este grupo para quem quer dar uma renovada na sua antiga bike de aro, sem ter de investir duro numa nova bike e, considerando que está cada vez mais difícil achar shimano ou sram eletrónico para shifters de cabo , é uma boa opção sem gastar um rim....
Vais ter uma bike meia nova praticamente, as manetes são diferentes e as mudanças eletrónicas são muito agradáveis...
O grupo é algo novo, as instruções são confusas, mas o hardware é bom, a app está a melhorar, tem muito potencial...
Nice wheelset, what brand and model are they?
They're custom built. I ordered some rims from LightBicycle and found some Enve hugs on Ebay
Did the levers rattle with you? Thanks
@@tiagosantos_ss I’ve seen a few others mention rattling, but I haven’t noticed anything.
My SRAM Force etap levers were awful for rattling so maybe I’m more tolerant of it
Great video i'm thinking about buying one to put on a new build at the year of the year
Hi can u pls explain this....getting the rim break version...
Actually in the review by VELO..wheeltop said that..the front mech battery is good for 900 shifts...and the rear mech battery is good for 2,000 shifts...confusing...tnx for the reply...
lol that right button is a double tap. Two function button. Half press is programmable. Full press is the shift. Press it half way and watch the light on the hood😉
@@hill160881 What?! This can’t be…
@@FullBeansCyclingCompanywatch the green light on the hood. Press it half way. Does it light up green? I can’t find in the app to assign it to my cycling computer.
On SRAM cassettes, the smallest sprocket is a 10t. However, a few folks, and Wheeltop too I believe, say this group isn't compatible with the 10t cog.
Anybody know if it does work smoothly?
Cheers
@@BrianRPaterson I ran it fine with the 10t sram cassette with no problem.
I had no idea WheelTop say it isn’t compatible, but they’ll be a reason for it so be wary.
How come it says...in a review..that the front mech battery is goog for 900 shifts only...and the rear mech battery is good for 2,000 shifts only....im confused...tnx for the reply
@@nelverzabal1535 The front mech takes more power than the rear because it has a more powerful motor
I was planning to buy this groupset but now more confused. Btw whic bike?
1000 kms!? That is not much. I believe this groupset requires much more finicking than the other major brands. Please present your cohost!
Think your tortoise is a mad attention seeker, just wanted some love
!!! Ed !!!
how you get your tortoise act like a dog...
I've installed 5 L-TWOO er9 and just bought an erx for 210eur. I've had 3 RDs die for no reason. These Chinese electronic groupsets are first generation. Do not expect them to perform reliably on par with Shimano, it's unreasonable. China is also known to release and iterate, because they work where the factory is, so they basically release beta products without telling you. At 600+ GBP, this (mini) groupset makes no sense whatsoever. Either pay 400 or max 500 USD for it, or get second hand Shimano or SRAM. Once you've bought a complete groupset, if you're not saving hundreds, then buy Shimano. At least for the next two years, giving them time to iterate the most obvious flaws (and there are plenty)
Why did you buy 5 if 3 of them died LOL
And I thought my cat was annoying…
You were given this for free, so the title effectively asks whether it is worth nothing?! Somehow, this isn't a good start for a video like this, and I couldn't bring myself to watch for long, even though I'm actually interested in the product. Somehow, it never felt as if I would get any useful information.
@@joachimachtzehnter4772 Okay
I think that calling it groupset it way too much.
Pointless review with 1 bar.
@@iamthedalilama Bar?