Man I wish this video existed 20 years ago when I first started getting pedals. Daisy chains and cheap patch cables all over the place. People don’t realize the service you are providing. Keep it up guys.
@Wild Eye I'll put my hand up to the same mistake. Hey, got a lot of great (and pricey) pedals, nice guitar(s) and a couple of sweet valve amps. Now...power...hmm, those Joyo PS seem pretty good... D'Oh!!! Thanks be to D & M, now I have a Strymon Ojai with a Zuma on the way. Can finally use the high ma units wirhout bloody separate adapters into a power board. Line6 M5, revenge is mine! TC Vintage Delay, 12v 270ma? Bwahaha you cannot defeat me with your puny ma draw, now!
I'm just starting with this pedalboard thing. Can someone tell me the difference between a daisychain and a power supply? and how does it affect the sound?. I'll appreciate it
Really like how you guys clearly both have a ton of knowledge but you don’t come across like you’re competing with each other on who knows more. Seems like an uncommon quality
I love the contrast. Mick's board looks like a well executed 1st pedalboard. Dan's crack at a "1st pedal board" - nuclear fusion reactor into the distributor into the isolator into the timelord into boutique Rat clone. LOL never change.
I knew something like that was going to happen as soon as I clicked the video, and I was chuckling to myself when Dan said he was gonna use GigRig stuff for the power supply :D
@@jonathanstewart5269 Honestly, I can definitely see Mick's Version being a first pedalboard, if you were to inform yourself beforehand about how a pedalboard is supposed to look like/be made. A "well-informed" first pedalboard, so to speak. If you were to go in completely blind, however, then you obviously also wouldn't be able to make it as nice as Mick's, even.
A quick thought on attaching velcro or dual lock tape on the bottom of Boss pedals. If you unscrew the base plate, you can turn it over and screw it back on with the inner surface facing out. Then you can put your velcro on without any trouble.
Neither things is necessary. Just put a piece of Velcro on the middle of the bottom plate, between the rubber pads... Absolutely no problem with it sticking. Don't make it harder than it needs to be fellas
The face when every great guitar youtube channel releases a good video on friday and you realize you're not gonna do anything the whole day but watch those videos... Have mercy, guitar gurus.
Great ep. Every pedalboard build feels like my first. First "pedalboard" was: Ibanez Fat Cat>Boss Phaser>Washburn Stereo Chorus>Boss DD-something. Can't remember which one. Board: the floor Power supply: batteries Amp: Ashton Solid State 60W something (dubbed "The Noisemaker") Guitar: a good one! MIJ Vox SG copy. Solid AF, sounded awesome. Stolen in 1992. I know who did it and if I ever find him, to quote Tom Verlaine "I'll squeeze his head right into my fist"
I'm 57 and just beginning to learn guitar. And thanks to you my first pedal board has a analogman sunface bc 183 and the ardx20 analog dual delay plus a prince of tone. Also have a thorpy fallout cloud, keeley compressor plus, boss waza chorus and delay, boss md 500, and angry driver and a neunaber immerse reverb. And a keeley filaments, wampler Tumnus deluxe and plexi drive deluxe. I guess its a mid life crisis but instead of a red convertible mustang i'm collecting guitar gear.
Always found it useful to have a multimeter on hand, too. Continuity for testing cables and isolation of power supply grounds - before you start jamming ;) - and DC voltage for double checking correct voltage and polarity. Not necessarily expensive and cuts out exposing pedals to inevitable goofs.
The last pedal board I built which I still use, I was searching for a power supply which is a real minefield. I came across a RUclips video recommending thegigrig moduler power supply. I then found Dans RUclips channel with the first few episodes of that pedal show on. I watched the shows, ordered a power supply and both have been keeping me company every Friday night since. Fantastic show and thegigrig is the best power supply without a doubt. Thanks
Couldn't be more correct about the pedal board removing the barrier to entry. I built my first board after having a child, as my window for playing became RADICALLY shorter. Could not afford 20 mins of setting up my mess of pedals. It has made a huge difference (and much thanks to TPS for all the inspiration and information).
From what i've learned watching That Pedal Show over the years. You need 1 Centaur, 1 King Of Tone, 1 Strymon blue sky, taped to a astroturfed pallet. Done.
I sold my centaur, that I bought new a long time ago, because I like the Benson Preamp pedal a lot more. First pedal I ever found to be better than a klon.
@@vibroluxon8 I know I'm a little late to the party so to speak, but I really am surprised that the plastic know it all brigade, haven't jumped all over you with; OFFS isms! y'know? Like/don't like? It's all subjective
As an electrical engineer, I think it would be good to explain why a daisy chain power supply is not a good choice. Even if you have an amazingly clean, well-built supply, the problem occurs when the pedals are wired in parallel (daisy chained). Each pedal will generate some amount of electrical noise... some more than others. So the clean power is compromised immediately, and other pedals then get noise on their input power. Isolated just means each pedal gets a separate run that has regulation, filter caps, etc. in a star topology. Dan's absolutely right, avoid the daisy chain style. It's not a diss on any manufacturer, nor being an audio snob; it's just electrical wisdom. Cheers!
I always look forward to new and fun things on your show, but I really appreciate you doing some "basics" kind of videos too! Not everyone around here has been playing for a long time. Kudos gents.
Cannot thank you enough for this video. As someone who loves the show and have learned a lot about tone and sound this is probably the most useful video for me. This is exactly what I needed for my first build
Just wanted to say - rewatching this was invaluable to getting the build right on my board. I had a pedaltrain board and a ditto looper for my birthday earlier this year, and finally wanted to build something professional, tidy and great sounding. I had all the bits, but even down to getting the right velcro on the right bits, this video guided me through the process. You guys already know I take inspiration from everything you do, and the tones and soundscapes I'm able to create now in comparison to a few years back, are a lot to do with the show, and knowing how to approach effects. Thank you again.
My first pedalboard has evolved over time into a Pink Floyd board, and now has two power supplies, ten pedals, and a gorgeous QMX-10 to handle everything. The wiring isn't the MOST beautiful thing in the world, but I'm as proud as hell of it, and it sounds great.
Thanks so much for getting around to making this one! - This was my request shortly after the show first aired - and I really am grateful for this as well as the many years of great service I've gotten from you Dan. After watching this I guess I'll break down and buy a bag of zip ties for my temporary boards and use them instead of rubber bands...
More jams on TPS! when Mick kicked on that runestone, my first though was "eh, that's not my cup of tea". Dan starts playing, and suddenly it just makes so much more sense - context is everything!
My first pedal board was the top of a school desk that I found in a dumpster, cut to the size and shape of a “replacement” SKB soft case I got for cheep. My dad jerry-rigged me some power distribution using a single Dunlop power supply I had, a piece of circuitboard he had lying around in the garage, and a bunch of wires and connectors. Essentially an over engineered and unsightly daisychain which we literally screwed to the board. I wish I had pictures of that thing, but alas, these were the days before cell phone cameras... The pedals, I believe, were a Crybaby, a Boss Mega Distortion, a Boss Bass Overdrive (cool sounds to be had with a guitar), PH3 Phaser, BF2 Flanger, and a DD5 Delay, with a QuikTune tuner which only tuned to standard tuning. I was so proud of that monstrosity...
I am not sure you guys are appreciated enough. There was not a new bit of data here for me, but it did take me a couple of decades to know everything it just took you a little over an hour to do. Clearly there must needs be a part 2 and part 3 with upgraded to good pedal board and pro pedal board respectively. The fact that I knew the info and still watched is a testimony to you guys being great at this. Thanks so much.
Would have been years away before I built a board if it wasn't for you guys sharing your knowledge, thank you. Gigrig power & your d&m drive will never leave my board. btw the little jam at the end with both of you playing... give us more more more with a rebel yell.
Regarding alternative power supplies I can highly recommend the CIOKS products. Super low noise, build like a tank and flexible power output. The DC range is pure gold!
@@mannishboy1 Yes. I just used the 250/250 Strength to Hold a Fulltone Wah ( built like a tank & super heavy ). The Dual Lock - " Holds the Pedals for Ransom "
@@mannishboy1 - I have a Cioks Adam for just a standard nano, I used dual lock to start with (underneath this is) which worked great but I found it was super close to the ground so ended up using screws, so might be worth checking your ground clearance before!
JHS just published a video comparing Berhinger pedals to the original they are copying. Kind of timely. Berhinger is perhaps a good option for first pedals if cost is an issue as it is for many younger players, and some sound really good as JHS demonstrated.
Thanks, guys! After playing for 23 years, you’ve inspired me to build my very first pedalboard. I used Mick’s wood design. Love the info! I actually watched this video twice. Keep up the great work and, yes, entertainment!
Really loved this particular pedal show, the format made so much sense. Fulfilling what I would assume is an ever-increasing need for your audience, as you draw in more and inevitably (and brilliantly) more inexperience peddlers. Not only that, your end jam was wonderful (great to see you playing together) sounded ace, and best of all, it was a sublime demonstration of the episode's subject matter in a "real-world" context. Keep doing what you're doing. I for one have and continue to be inspired, informed, and entertained. Thanks, Macc
Pedals are like an ideal gas; they expand to fit the available space. Whatever free space you think you have on your board now will disappear in fairly short order. Great video guys, wish you'd done it 15 years ago when I was building my first pedalboard.
I just want to say a Sincere & Heartfelt Thank You to T.P.S. as I just Finished my 1st ( high-end / pro-board ). The Knowledge I have gained from T.P.S. - helped tremendously. Im using the New Waggi 28" Pedalboard ( fantastic design ). Definitely allows me to practice and Play More with My Entire Setup being: Always ready-to-go.
What a great jam!. New Rule: You must loop and play like this waaaaaay more often! You've set the bar high with EOB and this one--you guys were channeling your inner EOB in there. Just.Great.
This is probably the most important video TPS has made to date. It probably contains a lots of information that the majority of viewers find basic and obvious, but at the end of the day this is the crossroads that every pedalboard player comes to at some point. If a player gets the fundamentals right, the rest becomes a lot easier. Well done guys. Good work!
You two are golden,: your knowledge, teaching skills, interactive vibe....Its a total thrill for me to watch your shows. I'm returning to guitar after a long run on drums and you two have informed so much of my "rig" decisions. And so entertaining! You sure have a lot of fans in the community. Thank you for continuing to provide these great shows!
As a lefty: YES ISN'T IT A PAIN WHEN CABLES CUT ACROSS THE FRONT OF YOU? Welcome to our world Right handers. Loved this episode. Always enjoy hearing stripped back/down sounds/rigs as I feel like a lot of guitarists are forced into this position in a lot of bands, so it's great to hear you can get a wide variety of sounds from more affordable gear. Crackin'!
I'd like to apologise to all left handed guitarists. You get a raw deal from everyone in the guitar industry. But you do have Jimi Hendrix and Doyle Bramhall II. And Tony Iommi. And Paul McCartney and Albert King and Otis Rush and Kurt Cobain. And probably loads of others. Cheers!
Love this! Would love to see an in depth video on how to build your own high end, professional board!! with tips and tricks with certain pedals, midi and switching
I really wish you two would run separate rigs more often, the times you both get to play together has brought out some great jams, and helps to put more of the sounds you get into context.
Super fun video. Brought me back to building my first pedal board. I had the Boss BCB6 plastic board with all Boss pedals. The Boss power supply had you daisy chain them all together. I thought it was so killer. Boss CS2, CE2, BF2 (Flanger), HM2 (Heavy Metal), and DD2 (delay). Still have the DD2 and the CS2. They are considered vintage now. Monday my Schmidt Array Board arrives from Germany. My Gigrig G2 is already here. So....34 years after building my first pedal board, along with 15 other boards since, I may be building my last pedal board. :) Cheers!!
Here's my tip... buy a Keeley D & M drive: 1) two pedals in one 2) switch the order of the Boost & Drive sides with a flick of a switch 3) less patch cables 4) less power cables 5) smaller footprint than two standard-size pedals 6) wide-range of great sounds 7) if needed, flexible routing system using TRS cables (which kind of negates point #3 above, but if you need it it's available)
When you two play together it’s truly special. I found myself reaching for my guitar and playing along. If your goal was to inspire others to play more it certainly worked with me. One question. My black magic zen drive has a level and gain the seem to interact with each other differently than a normal drive pedal. For me to get the “right” sound I find the overall level being way above unity. I’ve mitigated this with a boost for when I don’t have the zen drive active. This leaves me feeling like I am tap dancing. What other ways are there to address the differences without making me adjust the levels on the pedal? Thanks for another great show.
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I have never have a played my Gibson & Fender guitars through any pedal. Just straight through my Fender, Marshall, Vox & Blackstar tube amps. I see how your excellent demonstration on your "first pedal board" educates everyone who wants, needs a pedal board the incentive to create & build one for oneself! So grateful and thankful for you both on sharing your knowledge! Thank you Dan & Mick! Incredible video!
That was fun. Been there and done that many times over the last 30 years, and still it is fun to watch you guys and see how similar my thought process is to this. Dan the Snouse sounded awesome and you have me looking at a memory man now, oh dear.. Mick i’m off to try my Tubescreamer before my Bluesbreaker for a change and now have to take another look at the foxgear As a Lefty, yes have certainly encountered the ‘right to left’ cable run issue.. these days i just use a right angle plug on the input side and loop it under the front of the pedaltrain and out the other side, i am sure there is a more expensive solution to this, but hey this works for me...
One great trick is to use the pedalboard tape but DON'T take off the paper backing and glue the tape to the pedal. Instead, cut the small squares, poke a hole in the tape then use the pedal base screws through the holes. Then you don't have the glue stuck on an expensive pedal or have to worry about those rubber bottoms. Just poke a small hole, not one large enough that the scree head easily pulls through
Around the 5:20 mark I both laughed and cried when Mick mentioned his need for two overdrive pedals and a delay. This was me 3 years ago, when I picked up guitar again after many years of not playing at all. Why oh why then have I just recently needed to upgrade my pedalboard to something which now takes up half the floor space in what I laughingly refer to as my “home office”, and why do I now own 10 dirt pedals and 3 delay pedals?????!!!! It’s all because of you MIck and Dan, it’s all your fault! What have you done to me? On a serious note, some great points here. I can’t emphasise enough how much having a pedalboard, proper isolated power supplies, good cables etc. has changed my approach towards playing. As someone who only pursues guitar as a hobby, I often have limited time for playing and having everything set up ready to just power up, plug in and play has really enabled those precious moments with the instrument to be moments of creative fun, rather than repeated moments wasted setting things up and then losing interest and becoming despondent. Thank you guys, keep up the great work.
Great video for beginners to get their feet wet with their first board. Nothing like first plugging into a board after the hours spent organizing and setting it up.
The other benefit to putting the hook side of velcro on the bottom of the pedal is that the hook side collects dust, pet hair, lint and other muck a lot more than the loop side. Having it on the bottom of the pedals keeps the board cleaner as a whole.
Ya! I've had one on my board for a couple of years, and it blows me away every time I use it. Mine came before the external switches were available, so it requires a degree of jiggery-pokery to make any adjustments. I do it gladly.
I'm finding one more space on top of my amp too.... This only started out with looking for a boost for solos... now look!! -_- instagram.com/p/BwM_Y1qB2Jl/? The missus thinks I'm having an affair ffs!!
Built 3 boards and after this tutorial, I will tear everything down and start over. Thanks for giving more reasons to avoid my actual work! Gents, is there any difference in the type of patch cables such as the gauge and the plug in connectors?
You bloody legends! Haven’t picked up the guitar for a couple of weeks, but I know what I’m doing today. Feeling truly inspired to sit down and noodle away a lazy Sunday.
The Tunguska Event Mine was: Cry Baby -> Boss OS-2 -> Fuzz Face -> Boss DD-3 I started getting really serious, when I added a uni-vibe, and a Bluesbreaker Clone.
SZCZERZO KŁY Or they nearly take out a band member, who just wanted to grab a beer, and got ensnared within the Guerrilla Warfare Booby Trap, that one calls there effects setup. 🤪
My first pedalboard I made 25 years ago and was a piece of scrap plywood with rubber feet screwed to it underneath. The pedals fixed to the board with cableties through holes I drilled in it. It had a Sovtek Green Muff, a MXR Dist+, a 70’s Small Stone, a Gollmer 60’s trem, a boss DD-3 and two boss compressors (cs-2+cs-3), one used as boost, one used as ”negative” boost/instant volume drop. The was also an off board Cry Baby first in the chain. All powered with separate 9V adapters (the Sovtek and the MXR i had hardwired adapters to the battery clip wires, as I always forgot to unplug them, draining the batteries), with cheapo coloured ”spaghetti” patchcables. It hummed like hell, but back then, living in a small town and before internet, you got what you could get your hands on. Everything into a MusicMan HD120 with a Malmberg 4x12, patched to a Bassman 100 with a Bassman 4x12. Loud as hell and probably illegal volumes today... my second pedalboard I built two years ago and now I have a third one. The Gollmer 60’s trem is still on there though! :D
First board was 12 pedals on a keyboard drawer flipped upside down. The damn thing was so big I couldn't find a bag for it. Used to wrap it in a blanket to take it to gigs.
After discovering your show a few months back, it quickly became clear that I needed to get rid of my old multi-effect, which has served me well on countless gigs for many years, and build my own pedalboard. I finished this project about 2 weeks ago, so this episode came a bit too late. I'm really happy that I managed it pretty well without the beginners guide ;-). And the most important thing of this whole story: the sound is so incredibly better that I want to play all day long!! Thank you guys!
This is great. I've been playing guitar now for 30 years and never owned a pedalboard! Always had either modelling amps or single pedals loose on the floor. So I'm going to build one... Thanks for the inspiration. Really enjoying your channel as ever.
Good stuff guys! Built my first pedalboard 3 times in a row this winter but it’s gigging like a champ now!! Poly tune, Boss AD2, MxR Super Badass Dist, Boss BD2, Wampler Analog Echo Delay, Hall of Fame, digitech jamman stereo...voodoo labs power. Couldn’t have done it without you!!
That feel when you go from being thrilled to see that TPS chose your power supply to use on their show to being horrified when it doesn't work right... Ouch.
Mission have told us that this supply was updated on units after our review item. And if you experience problems they will offer an upgrade before certain serial numbers. Cheers!
Close pedals and the problem of being able to step on one pedal without affecting another pedal can sometimes be solved with the little plastic dials the you slip over a hard to reach footswitch. The wider and higher footswitch can now be accessed easier in certain senarios. Especially on pedals in the back of your pedalboard. Mooer makes them that you can get a pack of 12 for like 5 bucks shipped
That moment as a pedal builder when your pedal is on your favorite RUclips show and does a high pitch whistle as soon as it’s turned on... !!!
Aaaah!
Oh mate! It wasn't the pedal - it was the power supply!
More soon. I am LOVING the Argo. Crazy crazy crazy good. :0)
That Pedal Show I’m so glad you’re digging it!
You could just blame it on the White House.
@@What11235 the butt hurt is strong with this one
This is like a cooking show for effects pedals.
Excellent observation.
Only until they start dropping pedals into a big pot of boiling water.
@@MickForjay
Rockbox
Boiling point
They should randomly cut to D&M enjoying a sumptuous meal at the end instead of demoing their new mini boards. No explanation.
Public service announcement.
Man I wish this video existed 20 years ago when I first started getting pedals. Daisy chains and cheap patch cables all over the place. People don’t realize the service you are providing. Keep it up guys.
ah the good ol days of the carpetboard! sweet nostalgia.
Wild Eye Right?!? I am embarrassed that I got my first good power supply for my pedal board in 2005 or so.
@Wild Eye I'll put my hand up to the same mistake. Hey, got a lot of great (and pricey) pedals, nice guitar(s) and a couple of sweet valve amps. Now...power...hmm, those Joyo PS seem pretty good...
D'Oh!!!
Thanks be to D & M, now I have a Strymon Ojai with a Zuma on the way. Can finally use the high ma units wirhout bloody separate adapters into a power board. Line6 M5, revenge is mine! TC Vintage Delay, 12v 270ma? Bwahaha you cannot defeat me with your puny ma draw, now!
I'd buy GigRig but they are always sold out and buying from overseas? I also need to eat, eh.
I'm just starting with this pedalboard thing. Can someone tell me the difference between a daisychain and a power supply? and how does it affect the sound?. I'll appreciate it
Really like how you guys clearly both have a ton of knowledge but you don’t come across like you’re competing with each other on who knows more. Seems like an uncommon quality
Ha! Dan definitely knows more. :0)
There is no such thing as too many of these kind of instructional videos. Especially with this duo.
I love the contrast. Mick's board looks like a well executed 1st pedalboard. Dan's crack at a "1st pedal board" - nuclear fusion reactor into the distributor into the isolator into the timelord into boutique Rat clone. LOL never change.
I knew something like that was going to happen as soon as I clicked the video, and I was chuckling to myself when Dan said he was gonna use GigRig stuff for the power supply :D
Neither of them looks like a first pedal board.
@@jonathanstewart5269 Honestly, I can definitely see Mick's Version being a first pedalboard, if you were to inform yourself beforehand about how a pedalboard is supposed to look like/be made. A "well-informed" first pedalboard, so to speak. If you were to go in completely blind, however, then you obviously also wouldn't be able to make it as nice as Mick's, even.
It's like Marty McFly and the Doc.
If Marty had actually paid attention to the Doc's advice.
A quick thought on attaching velcro or dual lock tape on the bottom of Boss pedals.
If you unscrew the base plate, you can turn it over and screw it back on with the inner surface facing out. Then you can put your velcro on without any trouble.
this comment just saved me ripping the rubber base of the bottom of my boss pedals, thankyou!
Neither things is necessary. Just put a piece of Velcro on the middle of the bottom plate, between the rubber pads... Absolutely no problem with it sticking.
Don't make it harder than it needs to be fellas
Tried this with my Boss Tremolo. It doesn't work cos the rubber pad presses against the IC board. But good guess anyway!
@@ryans9029 this is correct.
@@jamesmolloy5350 damn, i already did that lol. ill make sure to use this trick in the future tho.
The face when every great guitar youtube channel releases a good video on friday and you realize you're not gonna do anything the whole day but watch those videos... Have mercy, guitar gurus.
Lads, I can't play the guitar and after watching this even I want a pedal board😂 what a great show!!!
Great ep. Every pedalboard build feels like my first.
First "pedalboard" was:
Ibanez Fat Cat>Boss Phaser>Washburn Stereo Chorus>Boss DD-something. Can't remember which one.
Board: the floor
Power supply: batteries
Amp: Ashton Solid State 60W something (dubbed "The Noisemaker")
Guitar: a good one! MIJ Vox SG copy. Solid AF, sounded awesome. Stolen in 1992. I know who did it and if I ever find him, to quote Tom Verlaine "I'll squeeze his head right into my fist"
I'm 57 and just beginning to learn guitar. And thanks to you my first pedal board has a analogman sunface bc 183 and the ardx20 analog dual delay plus a prince of tone. Also have a thorpy fallout cloud, keeley compressor plus, boss waza chorus and delay, boss md 500, and angry driver and a neunaber immerse reverb. And a keeley filaments, wampler Tumnus deluxe and plexi drive deluxe. I guess its a mid life crisis but instead of a red convertible mustang i'm collecting guitar gear.
james mccarty jr consider an MXR analog delay. It’s got a nice organic tone, and not that pricy
Ah man... at the end of the day... it's all about making righteous noise with your buddies. Thanks for empowering so many of us to do that you guys.
Yeah baby! More of that is good!
Jaming with looper should be mandatory part of each TPS episode. Awesome guys 👍
After 20 years of bass playing I'm finally getting into pedals. So much good information in here and just fun to watch. Thanks guys.
Everytime I see them I have the same though: man, I've never seen such a great 2-piece team.
So that's why my board sounded bad!
I was using black tape instead of the orange kind
@Robbi Rose I use buffered tape first and last and true bypass tape for the rest.
It's the "buffer sandwich tape" method.
maybe you should buy some new guitars to fix this
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Always found it useful to have a multimeter on hand, too. Continuity for testing cables and isolation of power supply grounds - before you start jamming ;) - and DC voltage for double checking correct voltage and polarity. Not necessarily expensive and cuts out exposing pedals to inevitable goofs.
"what's wrong HAL?" hahaha! I love you guys!
The last pedal board I built which I still use, I was searching for a power supply which is a real minefield. I came across a RUclips video recommending thegigrig moduler power supply. I then found Dans RUclips channel with the first few episodes of that pedal show on. I watched the shows, ordered a power supply and both have been keeping me company every Friday night since. Fantastic show and thegigrig is the best power supply without a doubt. Thanks
Couldn't be more correct about the pedal board removing the barrier to entry. I built my first board after having a child, as my window for playing became RADICALLY shorter. Could not afford 20 mins of setting up my mess of pedals. It has made a huge difference (and much thanks to TPS for all the inspiration and information).
From what i've learned watching That Pedal Show over the years. You need 1 Centaur, 1 King Of Tone, 1 Strymon blue sky, taped to a astroturfed pallet. Done.
+ an original essentially priceless tape delay of some kind.
I don't remember these guys ever using a blue sky. They are more delay than reverb guys imo.
Be realistic. Both Timeline and Blue Sky.
Also, I guess "Earth" and "ground" mean the same on opposite sides of the pond.
I sold my centaur, that I bought new a long time ago, because I like the Benson Preamp pedal a lot more. First pedal I ever found to be better than a klon.
@@vibroluxon8 I know I'm a little late to the party so to speak, but I really am surprised that the plastic know it all brigade, haven't jumped all over you with; OFFS isms! y'know?
Like/don't like? It's all subjective
As an electrical engineer, I think it would be good to explain why a daisy chain power supply is not a good choice. Even if you have an amazingly clean, well-built supply, the problem occurs when the pedals are wired in parallel (daisy chained). Each pedal will generate some amount of electrical noise... some more than others. So the clean power is compromised immediately, and other pedals then get noise on their input power. Isolated just means each pedal gets a separate run that has regulation, filter caps, etc. in a star topology. Dan's absolutely right, avoid the daisy chain style. It's not a diss on any manufacturer, nor being an audio snob; it's just electrical wisdom. Cheers!
Thanks for the info!! What's the alternative? 9 volt batteries all around?
@@jb71488 Certainly, except a Iot of modern smaller pedals don't take batteries.
Lovely jam at the end. They were right about that orange tape.
Best hour and some change that I've spent on RUclips in quite a while!
I always look forward to new and fun things on your show, but I really appreciate you doing some "basics" kind of videos too! Not everyone around here has been playing for a long time. Kudos gents.
Cannot thank you enough for this video. As someone who loves the show and have learned a lot about tone and sound this is probably the most useful video for me. This is exactly what I needed for my first build
Fantastic jam. Happy , Happy ,Happy ,
Everybody’s Happy
So satisfying when you start laying pedals onto the velcro .
Just wanted to say - rewatching this was invaluable to getting the build right on my board. I had a pedaltrain board and a ditto looper for my birthday earlier this year, and finally wanted to build something professional, tidy and great sounding. I had all the bits, but even down to getting the right velcro on the right bits, this video guided me through the process. You guys already know I take inspiration from everything you do, and the tones and soundscapes I'm able to create now in comparison to a few years back, are a lot to do with the show, and knowing how to approach effects. Thank you again.
What's wrong Hal? Lmao!
You guys just kill it when you play together. Love it,
Best show on YT!!!
My first pedalboard has evolved over time into a Pink Floyd board, and now has two power supplies, ten pedals, and a gorgeous QMX-10 to handle everything. The wiring isn't the MOST beautiful thing in the world, but I'm as proud as hell of it, and it sounds great.
Thanks so much for getting around to making this one! - This was my request shortly after the show first aired - and I really am grateful for this as well as the many years of great service I've gotten from you Dan. After watching this I guess I'll break down and buy a bag of zip ties for my temporary boards and use them instead of rubber bands...
Back to basics! Sweet! We all need this now and then!
More jams on TPS! when Mick kicked on that runestone, my first though was "eh, that's not my cup of tea". Dan starts playing, and suddenly it just makes so much more sense - context is everything!
My first pedal board was the top of a school desk that I found in a dumpster, cut to the size and shape of a “replacement” SKB soft case I got for cheep. My dad jerry-rigged me some power distribution using a single Dunlop power supply I had, a piece of circuitboard he had lying around in the garage, and a bunch of wires and connectors. Essentially an over engineered and unsightly daisychain which we literally screwed to the board. I wish I had pictures of that thing, but alas, these were the days before cell phone cameras... The pedals, I believe, were a Crybaby, a Boss Mega Distortion, a Boss Bass Overdrive (cool sounds to be had with a guitar), PH3 Phaser, BF2 Flanger, and a DD5 Delay, with a QuikTune tuner which only tuned to standard tuning.
I was so proud of that monstrosity...
I am not sure you guys are appreciated enough. There was not a new bit of data here for me, but it did take me a couple of decades to know everything it just took you a little over an hour to do. Clearly there must needs be a part 2 and part 3 with upgraded to good pedal board and pro pedal board respectively. The fact that I knew the info and still watched is a testimony to you guys being great at this. Thanks so much.
Would have been years away before I built a board if it wasn't for you guys sharing your knowledge, thank you. Gigrig power & your d&m drive will never leave my board. btw the little jam at the end with both of you playing... give us more more more with a rebel yell.
Regarding alternative power supplies I can highly recommend the CIOKS products. Super low noise, build like a tank and flexible power output. The DC range is pure gold!
I just got a Cioks DC5 for my PT Nano. Haven't installed it yet.
Seems pretty heavy... Do you think low-profile 3M Dual Lock will hold it?
@@mannishboy1 Yes. I just used the 250/250 Strength to Hold a Fulltone Wah ( built like a tank & super heavy ). The Dual Lock - " Holds the Pedals for Ransom "
@@mannishboy1 top mounted for sure, underneath: probably :) When in doubt: zip tie or screws
I use dual lock for my truetone supply and it works a treat. No concerns whatsoever about it falling off
@@mannishboy1 - I have a Cioks Adam for just a standard nano, I used dual lock to start with (underneath this is) which worked great but I found it was super close to the ground so ended up using screws, so might be worth checking your ground clearance before!
that last jam, and the tone Mick was getting from that mythos pedal... Just glorious.
Love it when we can hear you jam together! Mick, when will we see the vlog on you changing the pickups on blue? And Dan... PEDALBOARD BUILD????
JHS just published a video comparing Berhinger pedals to the original they are copying. Kind of timely. Berhinger is perhaps a good option for first pedals if cost is an issue as it is for many younger players, and some sound really good as JHS demonstrated.
That Tele continues to astound me Dan. Heads and tails your best sounding guitar on the show.
Thanks, guys! After playing for 23 years, you’ve inspired me to build my very first pedalboard. I used Mick’s wood design. Love the info! I actually watched this video twice. Keep up the great work and, yes, entertainment!
I wish I had this video years ago when I was figuring out my first board. You two provide a real service here. "Don't stop believing....."
Really loved this particular pedal show, the format made so much sense. Fulfilling what I would assume is an ever-increasing need for your audience, as you draw in more and inevitably (and brilliantly) more inexperience peddlers. Not only that, your end jam was wonderful (great to see you playing together) sounded ace, and best of all, it was a sublime demonstration of the episode's subject matter in a "real-world" context.
Keep doing what you're doing. I for one have and continue to be inspired, informed, and entertained.
Thanks,
Macc
Enjoyed the pedal build. I finished my first board today. A Snouze Black Box is 1st in the chain!
I just love youse so much - every single episode of your show is just a gem in its own right. Thank you!
Ah, cheers mate, appreciate it 🤓🙏
❤@@ThatPedalShow
Pedals are like an ideal gas; they expand to fit the available space. Whatever free space you think you have on your board now will disappear in fairly short order. Great video guys, wish you'd done it 15 years ago when I was building my first pedalboard.
I just want to say a Sincere & Heartfelt Thank You to T.P.S. as I just Finished my 1st ( high-end / pro-board ). The Knowledge I have gained from T.P.S. - helped tremendously. Im using the New Waggi 28" Pedalboard ( fantastic design ). Definitely allows me to practice and Play More with My Entire Setup being: Always ready-to-go.
What a great jam!. New Rule: You must loop and play like this waaaaaay more often! You've set the bar high with EOB and this one--you guys were channeling your inner EOB in there. Just.Great.
This just went from like an hour of talking about pedals to some of the most beautiful guitar playing I’ve heard in years.
I love these guys
This is probably the most important video TPS has made to date. It probably contains a lots of information that the majority of viewers find basic and obvious, but at the end of the day this is the crossroads that every pedalboard player comes to at some point. If a player gets the fundamentals right, the rest becomes a lot easier. Well done guys. Good work!
That corner missing on Micks first velcro would mess with my mind everytime I got it out!!
Great show as usual guys!
Whether it’s true or not, the guitar cord explanation for right hand inputs is perfect 😆
You two are golden,: your knowledge, teaching skills, interactive vibe....Its a total thrill for me to watch your shows. I'm returning to guitar after a long run on drums and you two have informed so much of my "rig" decisions. And so entertaining! You sure have a lot of fans in the community. Thank you for continuing to provide these great shows!
As a lefty: YES ISN'T IT A PAIN WHEN CABLES CUT ACROSS THE FRONT OF YOU? Welcome to our world Right handers.
Loved this episode. Always enjoy hearing stripped back/down sounds/rigs as I feel like a lot of guitarists are forced into this position in a lot of bands, so it's great to hear you can get a wide variety of sounds from more affordable gear. Crackin'!
I'd like to apologise to all left handed guitarists. You get a raw deal from everyone in the guitar industry.
But you do have Jimi Hendrix and Doyle Bramhall II. And Tony Iommi. And Paul McCartney and Albert King and Otis Rush and Kurt Cobain. And probably loads of others. Cheers!
Love this! Would love to see an in depth video on how to build your own high end, professional board!! with tips and tricks with certain pedals, midi and switching
I really wish you two would run separate rigs more often, the times you both get to play together has brought out some great jams, and helps to put more of the sounds you get into context.
Spirit of Danish Pete. :0)
That Pedal Show I rewatched that loop segment a couple of time and it was amazing, probably my most favorite playing y’all have done
Dan and Mick......great show. Its also really good to see/hear you both play together. Doesn't happen often enough.
Very nice of you fellows to through some love to the beginners. Thank you.
Super fun video. Brought me back to building my first pedal board. I had the Boss BCB6 plastic board with all Boss pedals. The Boss power supply had you daisy chain them all together. I thought it was so killer. Boss CS2, CE2, BF2 (Flanger), HM2 (Heavy Metal), and DD2 (delay). Still have the DD2 and the CS2. They are considered vintage now. Monday my Schmidt Array Board arrives from Germany. My Gigrig G2 is already here. So....34 years after building my first pedal board, along with 15 other boards since, I may be building my last pedal board. :) Cheers!!
55:53 😂 You can tell Mick liked the Memory Man
This vid is still useful after all this time. Cheers guys.
Could watch these guys ALL day long!
Here's my tip... buy a Keeley D & M drive:
1) two pedals in one
2) switch the order of the Boost & Drive sides with a flick of a switch
3) less patch cables
4) less power cables
5) smaller footprint than two standard-size pedals
6) wide-range of great sounds
7) if needed, flexible routing system using TRS cables (which kind of negates point #3 above, but if you need it it's available)
When you two play together it’s truly special. I found myself reaching for my guitar and playing along. If your goal was to inspire others to play more it certainly worked with me. One question. My black magic zen drive has a level and gain the seem to interact with each other differently than a normal drive pedal. For me to get the “right” sound I find the overall level being way above unity. I’ve mitigated this with a boost for when I don’t have the zen drive active. This leaves me feeling like I am tap dancing. What other ways are there to address the differences without making me adjust the levels on the pedal? Thanks for another great show.
I have never have a played my Gibson & Fender guitars through any pedal. Just straight through my Fender, Marshall, Vox & Blackstar tube amps. I see how your excellent demonstration on your "first pedal board" educates everyone who wants, needs a pedal board the incentive to create & build one for oneself! So grateful and thankful for you both on sharing your knowledge! Thank you Dan & Mick! Incredible video!
I can watch this show for hours.
Cool! Welcome!
That was fun. Been there and done that many times over the last 30 years, and still it is fun to watch you guys and see how similar my thought process is to this.
Dan the Snouse sounded awesome and you have me looking at a memory man now, oh dear..
Mick i’m off to try my Tubescreamer before my Bluesbreaker for a change and now have to take another look at the foxgear
As a Lefty, yes have certainly encountered the ‘right to left’ cable run issue.. these days i just use a right angle plug on the input side and loop it under the front of the pedaltrain and out the other side, i am sure there is a more expensive solution to this, but hey this works for me...
One great trick is to use the pedalboard tape but DON'T take off the paper backing and glue the tape to the pedal. Instead, cut the small squares, poke a hole in the tape then use the pedal base screws through the holes. Then you don't have the glue stuck on an expensive pedal or have to worry about those rubber bottoms. Just poke a small hole, not one large enough that the scree head easily pulls through
Around the 5:20 mark I both laughed and cried when Mick mentioned his need for two overdrive pedals and a delay.
This was me 3 years ago, when I picked up guitar again after many years of not playing at all.
Why oh why then have I just recently needed to upgrade my pedalboard to something which now takes up half the floor space in what I laughingly refer to as my “home office”, and why do I now own 10 dirt pedals and 3 delay pedals?????!!!!
It’s all because of you MIck and Dan, it’s all your fault! What have you done to me?
On a serious note, some great points here. I can’t emphasise enough how much having a pedalboard, proper isolated power supplies, good cables etc. has changed my approach towards playing. As someone who only pursues guitar as a hobby, I often have limited time for playing and having everything set up ready to just power up, plug in and play has really enabled those precious moments with the instrument to be moments of creative fun, rather than repeated moments wasted setting things up and then losing interest and becoming despondent.
Thank you guys, keep up the great work.
Great video for beginners to get their feet wet with their first board. Nothing like first plugging into a board after the hours spent organizing and setting it up.
The other benefit to putting the hook side of velcro on the bottom of the pedal is that the hook side collects dust, pet hair, lint and other muck a lot more than the loop side. Having it on the bottom of the pedals keeps the board cleaner as a whole.
Exactly! Random visible lint pretty much ruins my tone. YMMV.
Shoutout to the Snouse Blackbox 2. My absolute favorite drive to date!
Ya! I've had one on my board for a couple of years, and it blows me away every time I use it. Mine came before the external switches were available, so it requires a degree of jiggery-pokery to make any adjustments. I do it gladly.
Yeah man I was shocked by it, it’s better than my klon and old ts808 and all others I’ve tried, its speciality
So useful for regular folk. Thanks.
setting up, trouble shooting, short demos & a jam. Bring it on! Excellent content.
I bet I am not the only person who has built pedalboards then have another tagged 'on the floor' because TPS 'made' me buy yet another one!
You are not alone, brother....there are support groups 😂😂😂
Don’t forget the space on top of your amp, for pedals that can go into an effects loop. 😄 Get a few more that way.
@@conan218 yeah but we're here, it's like going to your AA meeting and then all going down the pub immediately after 😅
I'm finding one more space on top of my amp too....
This only started out with looking for a boost for solos... now look!! -_-
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The missus thinks I'm having an affair ffs!!
@@Overworkt as long as you know you're not alone...that's all I'm saying...lmao
Built 3 boards and after this tutorial, I will tear everything down and start over. Thanks for giving more reasons to avoid my actual work! Gents, is there any difference in the type of patch cables such as the gauge and the plug in connectors?
54:06
HAL (dude with the Tele + Vox): tuner -> Jam Pedals Rattler (overdrive) -> Snouse Electric Company BlackBox Overdrive 2 (bluesbreaker clone) -> EHX Deluxe Memory Man T-1100 (delay) -> Mooer Trelicopter (tremelo)
AXIS BOARD OF LOVE (dude with the Strat + Fender amp): Ibanez Tube Screamer (overdrive) -> Mythos Runestone (overdrive) -> Foxgear Echosex (delay) -> TC Electronic Ditto (looper)
Jesus!!! Those jams and tones! Absolutely blown away by your playing Mick & Daniel!
Just ordered a Snouse Blackbox 2. Thanks guys!
Mxr power jacks drive me mad, such awkward placement on a tight board
You bloody legends! Haven’t picked up the guitar for a couple of weeks, but I know what I’m doing today. Feeling truly inspired to sit down and noodle away a lazy Sunday.
i can't believe i'm only just discovering this show! you guys are fantastic...i'm gonna be skint!
Welcome Tony 🤓🙏
My first setup: Cry Baby Wah -> Little Big Muff -> Boss DD-3
The Tunguska Event
Mine was: Cry Baby -> Boss OS-2
-> Fuzz Face -> Boss DD-3
I started getting really serious, when I added a uni-vibe, and a Bluesbreaker Clone.
Quality setup! Those are 3 staples.
All I used was a MXR Dist Plus into a Super Reverb when I first started
Nice
How did you power the little big muff and the dd3?
When do you need pedalboard? Answer: when cables could be classified as antipersonnel booby trap.
SZCZERZO KŁY
Or they nearly take out a band member, who just wanted to grab a beer, and got ensnared within the Guerrilla Warfare Booby Trap, that one calls there effects setup. 🤪
Or the wife hates the wire mess. 🎸🔫
I was thinking I liked Dan’s board more... but then the RuneStone worked.
Man, what a great tone!
My first pedalboard I made 25 years ago and was a piece of scrap plywood with rubber feet screwed to it underneath. The pedals fixed to the board with cableties through holes I drilled in it. It had a Sovtek Green Muff, a MXR Dist+, a 70’s Small Stone, a Gollmer 60’s trem, a boss DD-3 and two boss compressors (cs-2+cs-3), one used as boost, one used as ”negative” boost/instant volume drop. The was also an off board Cry Baby first in the chain. All powered with separate 9V adapters (the Sovtek and the MXR i had hardwired adapters to the battery clip wires, as I always forgot to unplug them, draining the batteries), with cheapo coloured ”spaghetti” patchcables. It hummed like hell, but back then, living in a small town and before internet, you got what you could get your hands on. Everything into a MusicMan HD120 with a Malmberg 4x12, patched to a Bassman 100 with a Bassman 4x12. Loud as hell and probably illegal volumes today... my second pedalboard I built two years ago and now I have a third one. The Gollmer 60’s trem is still on there though! :D
First board was 12 pedals on a keyboard drawer flipped upside down. The damn thing was so big I couldn't find a bag for it. Used to wrap it in a blanket to take it to gigs.
Watching this after spending 4 hours building my pedalboard.
Same
Have you now taken it to pieces to start all over again?
After discovering your show a few months back, it quickly became clear that I needed to get rid of my old multi-effect, which has served me well on countless gigs for many years, and build my own pedalboard. I finished this project about 2 weeks ago, so this episode came a bit too late. I'm really happy that I managed it pretty well without the beginners guide ;-). And the most important thing of this whole story: the sound is so incredibly better that I want to play all day long!! Thank you guys!
Ah, I was reading this Marcus... Willing the last sentence to come. Congrats man, when you feel it there's no going back! Mick here
This is great. I've been playing guitar now for 30 years and never owned a pedalboard! Always had either modelling amps or single pedals loose on the floor.
So I'm going to build one... Thanks for the inspiration.
Really enjoying your channel as ever.
Oh i injoy watching specialy the jamming led nice jam keep it up rock n can never die👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏
My first board was a piece of cardboard, wah, distortion, delay and some shoelaces to keep it all in place, it's been a long journey since then.
55:54 Mick's jaw drops! That sounds fooking magical Dan!
Good stuff guys! Built my first pedalboard 3 times in a row this winter but it’s gigging like a champ now!! Poly tune, Boss AD2, MxR Super Badass Dist, Boss BD2, Wampler Analog Echo Delay, Hall of Fame, digitech jamman stereo...voodoo labs power.
Couldn’t have done it without you!!
That feel when you go from being thrilled to see that TPS chose your power supply to use on their show to being horrified when it doesn't work right... Ouch.
Mission have told us that this supply was updated on units after our review item. And if you experience problems they will offer an upgrade before certain serial numbers. Cheers!
Two types of first pedalboard. One is some wood, a few simple pedals, the other probably has more computing power than the robot it's named after.
Close pedals and the problem of being able to step on one pedal without affecting another pedal can sometimes be solved with the little plastic dials the you slip over a hard to reach footswitch. The wider and higher footswitch can now be accessed easier in certain senarios. Especially on pedals in the back of your pedalboard. Mooer makes them that you can get a pack of 12 for like 5 bucks shipped
I love it when the two of you jam together!