2022 Range Rover vs 2010 Range Rover // Luxury Meets Liability
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- The brand new 2022 Range Rover P530 First Edition ($199,070 as specced in Canada, $176,175 in the US) and the 2010 Range Rover HSE LUX ($19,995 in Canada) are two potential routes that a Range Rover buyer could take. But does the P530 twin turbo V8, 530 horsepower output, and loads of luxury and tech in the new gen win out? Or is the attractive price, classic style, and…ahem… reliability of the older L322 generation enough to win you over?
Thomas and James bumble down the road in both the new and old Range Rover, discussing which of the two they would choose, and how the new one compares to its competition. We hope you enjoy the episode! Thanks for watching! SUBSCRIBE!
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My old man always used to tell me, "if you couldn't afford to buy it new, you probably can't afford to run it second hand."
Good advice that I chose to ignore on a bunch of occasions
I can’t afford to buy any new car so take that
Just because you can buy it, doesn't mean you can afford it!
100% my old man used to say, you can't afford the range rover, Porsche or Ferrari if you have to ask how many mpg it does.
@@scott8934 🤣
That's just not true car that was 40k new, might cost 15k in 10 years, it won't cost 25k to maintain.
As the addict/owner of multiple older Land Rovers/Range Rovers, this video couldn't be more spot on. The online forums are more of a support group..we sadly know what we're getting in to but can't stop. The good news is they depreciate as if they're falling out of an airplane..deals everywhere! :)
My father used to love an XJ6 but couldn’t afford it. Do you think it a good idea for me to get one used and have it restored from some mechanic for my father’s next birthday?
I just don’t know how much it could cost me on top of the used car price and thus haven’t pulled the trigger.
@@agnesf2659 absolutely do it
Sounds like BMW forums, especially for older models lol
This is hilarious
@@agnesf2659 If you have the means that sounds like an absolutely wonderful gift. Hell, if your dad's a car guy he might even appreciate you getting him on the restoration process
god PLEASE never change your humor, as well as your honesty and unbiased opinions in your reviews. love it.
I thought it said "Please change" 😂
@@wheres7183 same
Unbiased hahaha
I bought a supercharged (400hp) L322, 2005 for £3995 from a private seller. Pristine condition, like new. Sure, it's old, but you still feel like the King of the Road and it is a magnificent car. Such a joy to drive. Last service only needed new brake pads. You just need to shop around for the best ones.
I let out a laugh so loud with the “Michael Caine” joke 😂 These guys are great
Same! Best part of the video
The interior of the older one is still magnificent, especially with the seat piping.
Yes. Cannot believe they lost the piping in the new one
@@amal6419 I mean the higher trims have multicolored seats with all sorts of cool detailing now
This video has the same vibe as that episode from The Grand Tour where Jeremy, James and Richard try and defend the Jags and say all the nice things about them despite failing miserably.
Love your work guys !!!
How about the oldish Top Gear episode where Jeremy got a Range Rover to drive across South America, and it made it whereas the Land Cruiser Hammond brought kept breaking down?
These two guys are way more entertaining and trustworthy than the three clowns in TopGear!
@@jesperhald3969 nah
@@jesperhald3969 nah
I agree, trying testing out off road.
These guys are living the life and I'm here to witness it. Love these longer more laid back and thorough videos.
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Exactly, money is always eager and ready to work for anyone who is ready to employ it.
Just a non scam-bot here, don't mind me 👀
Longer videos from them are great
This is bordering on the perfect car review. Funny, completely factual, without bias and with talented commentary throughout. Thoroughly, throughly enjoyable from start to finsih. Well done fellas.
Well that's crap
Your broken-down skit at the beginning got an immediate thumbs-up. THANK YOU GUYS.
I have a Range Rover P38 (1995-2001), the last with a Rover V8 engine, and a body on frame setup. I've had it for nearly 3 years now, but had not put many miles on it because it's been busy collecting dust between different mechanics and shops, I still love the way it looks, but it's been a one way love thus far.
James had me dying when he said “you can’t notice the taillights until their lit; I have friends like that” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I didn't get it
They will not notice the problems unless their ass is on fire.
Means he has some friends that you don't notice them or they have low key personalities until they get drunk and loud lol
@@unphazd5137 Yeah
Hahaha!
I’ve put over 100k miles on my 2010 Autobiography and still absolutely love it. Bought it in 2017 with 100k and just turned over 200k. So many features and comforts that people are still surprised existed back then. Digital gauge cluster, radar cruise control, blindspot monitoring, heated/cooled front and rear seats, reclining rear seats, 5 cameras, leather headliner, the list goes on. And it comes with classic Range Rover styling that was partially lost starting with the L405.
That reads like an ad you'd see on AutoTrader 😁
@@qazzaq8763 well, I used to do automotive consulting so…
I must ask about your maintenance experience with your autobiography, I've seen the older versions and the sport models for really good money considering all the equipment they come with
@@12pagani I put a decent amount of money into maintenance shortly after I bought it, which has made the rest of my ownership a lot less worrisome. I did the timing chains, variators, water pump, all injectors, plugs and everything to get the engine sealed back up about 6 months after I bought it. 2 air suspension compressors, alternator, fan clutch, transmission filter along with other smaller repairs over the years. All fluids changed many times over. I’m the second owner and the original owner maintained it through the dealer up until I bought it. I do all the work myself and that’s the only way to own these. No way I would have paid what the dealer wanted for some of these repairs. A Gap iiD tool is a must as well if you plan to work on it yourself.
You left out the part that you’re living in it now 😂 lol jk glad yours has treated you well
I have a supercharge 5.0 2018 and it’s been nothing but wonderful. Loads of power and Lux. I did have an issue with the front right air bag but it’s been resolved and the car has been great ever since. Best all around suv you can purchase.
Unfathomable that such high quality content is free. Thank You!
James is really cracking some good jokes in this one 😂
You don't notice them until they're lit. I've got friends like that. off the cuff.
Michael Cane…..rofl.
@@demon1spence you can see by the reaction that that line definitely was off script :D
@@kraenk12 The way he said it, sounded like "my cocaine". Unless that went over my head, it's a good use for a mirror lol
Love how laid back the reviews are, like two everyday car enthusiasts (most of us feel we fit in this category, so we can totally relate) having a chat about a car they’ve just acquired. Love your channel!
The 2010-2012 L322 is my favorite gen Range Rover. I just love the more boxy shape, and it still felt like a luxury utilitarian vehicle. The new ones just feel luxurious.
Luxury you would never get to experience while it's at the shop
@@gidd only if you use your car like an animal, if you treat and drive your range rover with care you won't spend much
Agreed, the doors feel better when you close them. Don’t care for the soft close. Everything in general has better weight and feel in the l322
Lx 600 Lexus on 🔥 🔥 🔥
@@princep7348 you don't believe this
I'm a land rover mechanic and can confirm they blow up all the time, even the new ones have a lot of problems but they are nice when they are working.
They are a joke here in Brasil, there's not a single car workshop that deals with high end car's that don't have a rover with a blown turbo in it.
@@Sasasala386 from my workshop alone we replace and sell long bare 3L turbo engines the most that are in discoveries and the sports and we probable sell close to 150 of them a year not a good statistic and thats just one engine they sell in their range. And they legitimately snap the crank In half.
@@jordanzlad I've heard it once don't know if it's true. They make too much power for parts that are not string enough to handle it.
@@Sasasala386 its usually run away, bad injectors, bad turbo or low oil pressure. its usually a snapped crank or a spun bearing I haven't seen many throw a rod through the block but I have seen them. its also because of the bi sequential turbo setup the 2.7L engine which I have is way better single big turbo mine is 2006 tuned in the engine and gearbox and goes better than the new 2022 3L setups
The quality of the new RR is terrible. Only air suspension problems and no replacement parts in stock! Nightmare car
I worked in Land Rover service for six years and I can definitely say. When they work , there’s no better:)
You guys just keep getting funnier and funnier! Never thought I could be so entertained by car reviews but you’ve proved me wrong over and over. “I have friends like that” lol
My brother has a white Range Rover in his garage. With an engine on the side because the original engine blew. It looks great in the garage though, like a life size paperweight.
Which motor ?
@@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor OK so here are the details it is actually a white Land Rover discovery with blown rings 4.0L and the engine that’s going in is from a 1995 Range Rover 4.2L.
@@CruiseControl1 what year is it
@@CruiseControl1 yea, that makes way more sense the old buick V8 used in the 90's and 2000's were known for headgasket failure, then piston liners slipping. Disco's, RR, all had it . If you could keep the cooling system functional, they were otherwise pretty good tho. Top hat rebuild is the only way to truly resolve the issue after you've had a severe overheat or find a different powerplant like an LS swap. The Jag 4.4 used on the 2006-2009 models LR3, RR Sport and RR are actually quite reliable and are known to easily go 200k miles plus without issue. The 2010's and up got the 5.0 plagued with timing chain guide failure. I'd personally avoid those. The new ones sure look sweet but getting quite complicated and expensive for my tastes. Earlier Land Rover vehicles while require more attention and maintenance than a Toyota are actually very, very nice vehicles and capable off road too.
@@WranglermanLevi yes, the jaguar 4.2 variants in the range rovers are actually amazing engines, you see those engines in cars with well over 200k all the time.
That checklist of things to look over before buying actually seems like solid advice no matter the vehicle. I look over most of those no matter what kind of vehicle I'm thinking of buying and keep a checklist of about a hundred things to check whenever I need to purchase or help someone purchase a vehicle. It takes at least an hour to examine one properly, unless it's new of course.
Who wouldn't check things like the radio, steering, shift smoothness, seats, oil quality, and windows before buying a vehicle, whether a Land Rover, Ford, Toyota, or Holden? It's a big purchase, and it's good to know what works and what doesn't to help make a decision on whether or not it's worth buying.
A lot of people will just assume "Oh, it's a Toyota/Honda, so everything must work because nothing goes wrong with them." Yes, I have actually heard people say that. One I know even went and bought a twelve-year-old Toyota 4Runner just because it ran so, therefore, it must be good because. . . Toyota, right? It died a horrible death on the side of the road a little over a year and many repairs later. He drives a fourteen-year-old Lincoln SUV now, and it's been much, much, much more reliable. Four years and hasn't broken anything yet, despite being used the same way.
2004 Holden Statesman to be exact ;-)
The L322 to get is the 2006-2009 model with the 4.2 that doesn't suffer from the timing chain guides issue. Mine is going to hit 300,000km soon.
I agree from my experience. I just had a 2006 with the 4.4l (yours was a 4.4 if it was the base na V8 btw) and sold it to a friend, but it's pushing 360000km's with no powertrain issues at all. Purrs like a cat with the jag engine, shifts great, lots of power especially in the mid and upper end, and returns reasonable fuel economy on road trips of around 12l/100kms. Super comfort and style with some nice tech, and features, and great stereo! The issues are electronic and air suspension related typically. Also a really good off roadable/poor weather vehicle if you actually require one. And has towing ability. If it's good enough for the queen it's good enough for me lol!
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I’m upset it ended. Then I realize it was a 30 minute video. You two give amazing commentary.
We need a 2022 BMW M3 vs 1990 BMW M3 E30 comparison. Let's make it happen! Great video as always Thomas and James
unfortunately... you need a blindfold just to gaze upon the new M3 without seriously damaging your retinas
The difference is most of the old/new videos are about value. The E30 is not a good value.
@@theoneandonlybosable you are forgetting about the supra video.
@@theoneandonlybosable was just gonna say, the mk iv vs mk v video. Doesn't have to be cheap vs new. But new vs old.
@@Gooseman2k2 oh yea def agree 😂
Just because a Tesla is expensive, it doesn’t make it a luxury vehicle.
expense has to be in tandem with practicality
if it’s expensive because it’s gold plated, that makes it a luxury
@@Josh-oc7ib then Ford Maverick is ultimate luxury vehicle 🤣
Tesla looks horrible (especially X) and is boring as h*ll. Generic car of the "future" nobody really wants.
@@betterbeavailable "nobody wants" lmao
just because you have a bad taste dosen't mean its bad lol
@@roshanprabu You want a future with completely silent cars with dependence on government power grid, slow charging, and complete tracking and remote shutdown capability? Careful what you wish for, might come true.
I owned a 2012 SC Range Rover and it'll probably be the greatest vehicle I have or will ever own. Just watching this changes how my blood feels as I miss it deeply. If you know, you know. As I was reading when I purchases and other owners had their issues, they said how much it broke down n yada, but they would still do it all over again. The last of the true Range Rovers with it classic boxey recognisable design. Man, it was absolute love....although offroading this beast with 20 inch wheels...ehhh. lol I can't tell you how desperately I miss it. Long live the L322, it was the greatest they have or will ever make.
Agree. I just got into a 2013 Supercharged 5L V8 L320 Sport. Magnificent vehicle.
yes 4.2 and 5.0 sc is better.
I bought mine 18 months ago with 129k miles on it (2012 SC model). No breakage or unreliability and really enjoying it )
@@rivstg13 You have balls mate, or some deep pockets or got a rare find or did some crazy homework...
@@JakeSoulFreeTravels yeah I did research and found one that previous owner had records showing the servicing it received( though it has a rebranded title due to theft )…& that gave me the confidence to purchase
Top notch production, guys.... Truly a spiritual successor to TG, with excellent humor and fun thrown in. Keep it up, we'll keep watching ;)
FYI there is a sticker of the World War II emblem of the Polish Underground State and Armia Krajow on the L322's rear window - pretty cool!
Love how the first thing that shows up on old one when they turned it on after they talked about everything that could go wrong… “Service Required”
this vid made me so happy because I have a 2010 hse and it has 176,000 miles and feels strong still. Considering I've raced it and been off-roading. Love yall.
That intro is so funny 😂👍👍
Love this review guys. I worked 12 years for the Land Rover company in Solihull and I always LOVED the RR. Thanks!!!
My father has had 3 range rovers and I can confirm their unreliablity. Gone through head gaskets on 2, a transmissions, 2 sets of air suspension, 2 radiators
in how long though?
@@voldyriddle3337 the first one went through a set of head gaskets in a year, the 2nd took 3yrs
Now they have worked on the issues for the newer models
@@Slainself you get more issues for your money, now?
@@JustinBenn can u afford one? Lmao
I really loved this one. It was so calm and laid back. Kinda like watching two friends drive about discussing their new cars. The 30 minutes didn't even feel like 30 minutes. Great episode guys!
It was 30mins?? Wow did the realize
It was 30mins?? Wow did the realize
I have a Jag F-Type that's thankfully relatively reliable, and I have a shop that I go to for maintenance, a shop specifically working on British marques. Whenever I go, I always see a ton of Land Rovers, outnumbering any other car there 9 to 1. I ask the shop owner what's with the disparity, and he says, in his words, "These Land Rovers spend more time at my shop than in their owners' garages." He's just calling it as he saw it.
Just a fact of life. My dad had a disco for 10 years and I think it needed repairs every other week. No idea how he had the patience but it just became like the screw up younger son who’s in an out of rehab but the parents never give up on 👁👄👁
jag and Range Rover are about as British as butter chicken and chutney now.
im not a huge range rover fan. I do like how they ride tho ( insert old man memes here ) drove my boss's 2019 one a year ago and it was amazing ride and comfort wise.
“It’s a siren of a car” hahaha perfect! 👌
You guys are wild, your videos are unique in every way and your sarcasm is on other level. I started watching you guys since you had less than 78k subscribers, and look at you now with the 2 million subscribers. I hope you continue to succeed and surpass 10 million subscribers.
Thomas and James are the perfect balance of humor and information and test drives.
I remember when the last gen RR (the one in between these two shown in the video) first came out, I went to see it at the car show in Toronto. As I sat in the SUV the first thing the sales told me, with such pride, is "It's all leather, 17 cows died for this car." Then went on to say the upholstery in the non-autobiography version is not leather, therefore only 14 cows. How times have changed!
Rich people love sitting in blood of capitalism
@@PhilDaBank You make shit decisions in life now you are whining about people richer than you.
@@PhilDaBank nothing wrong with it. They were going to die anyways and people get paid so they can support themselves and their family
You get leather and steaks and burgers and bbq. That is a multitasking animal.
I saw the L405 when it came out also. I couldn’t help but notice how cheap the door close felt. And the door handle. And the screens were EXTREMELY SLOW and laggy.
Considering the price of these cars, its weird to see at least 15 of them per day.
I had a lot of fun with the intro. Thank you guys for your classy work, hopa you will be keeping This format for a long time
As a 2002 P38 RR owner, this is spot on. You got to love it, because there will be a lot to fix. However my truck has over 225k miles and going strong (and not with the original engine...)
I went through all of these thought processes back in January when I was looking for my current daily (2010 Range Rover HSE). Looked at the forums, personally talked with people who owned them, and even test drove them. I also was cross-shopping 1997-2007 Lexus LX’s and GX’s and test drove those too. The Lexus’s were the safe but boring choice, and also had some higher wear and a lot of deferred maintenance. The Range Rover I ended up buying was newer, had much better materials and quality, drove and rode WAY better, and just felt special to a degree Toyota could never match.
Seven months later and I’m still very happy with my purchase. It’s not perfect, and I have had to do some maintenance on it. But it’s not maintenance I wouldn’t do on any other car. Find a good indie shop and you’ll be fine.
Absolutely agree with you. I've had a few different cars in the past couple years, mostly performance cars because speed is fun, but I never loved them as much as I love this car (well except for my 2008 Boxster S). It just drives so well, feels special, and makes me feel like James Bond where I could save the world and look good doing it too. I went with a 2008 Supercharged with the 4.2L. The thought of the 5.0 timing chain slapping and absolutely grenading the valve train would be just too much for me to handle, both mentally and financially. The older Jag units are pretty strong, with some minor here and there stuff. However, one thing that amazes me about this car is the community support (misery loves company?) and knowledge. I'd say it ranks up there with the Porsche crowd.
Now, with the leather cladded elephant in the room, they're actually not unreliable if you find the right one. The Range Rover game is all about preventative maintenance, changing the oils every 5000 miles, changing the transmission and dif fluids every 50-60k miles, etc. If you do the proper preventative stuff, they're pretty solid. It's when there's a weird ticking noise, or you let the air suspension compressor just run all the time, then things get super expensive real quick, but if you can turn your own wrench and do the maintenance on them, they're not too horribly expensive or unreliable.
Agreed!!!! I have a 2019 HSE and I'm loving the experience!!!!!
agree, this was me except in the lexus and jag sports car segment, same engine. the jaguar v8s have proved to be very reliable, have put 10k miles in under a year on mine and only needed an alternator and oil change. both our xk8 and xk have had some preventitive maintenance done however, the 4.0 needed its chains and thermostat, the 4.2 needed the thermostat, hoses for good measure also. a little preventative maintenance makes these cars bulletproof. knock on wood as always (theres a good amount in both of them so i should be good)
Guys... Cammisa said on yesterday's Carmudgeon that he wants to bring you guys out to California to race Kei cars on a go-kart track. DO IT. Your viewers deserve that video.
My 2011 LR2 was the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. 212,000 miles with minimal issues and plenty of off-road fun in the upper Midwest with my friends and their mud trucks. I cried when I totaled it hitting a deer at 70mph 😢
Looking into getting an 08-12 RR anything to look for? Is getting a supercharged one worth it or more problems?
@@Curseysasuke in-line six Volvo engine is bulletproof. Super charger is just adding pieces that are not really needed but can be nice for City driving. If it has a sunroof make sure to check it for water damage around the corners especially if the vehicles been outside a lot in the last five years.
That deer would have been fucked
“You don’t notice them until they’re lit. I have friends like that” 🤣🤣 Well done 👏🏾
Thomas fighting with the armrest was hilarious 🤣
I always love these episodes seeing the progression or stagnation and how in or out of touch brands are. One episode that should be done is Cayenne Turbo/s old vs new.
My dad bought a 2022 evoque and I told him half jokingly that it’d be in the shop in a month. Three weeks later it had to go in for a suspension issue…
That's par for the course, my moms 2022 highlander had to go in for a wind noise with a bad design on a radiator bracket.
@@spicysnowman8886 yeah. Makes me happy to have a 2013 Corolla. Almost a decade old with the only flaw being the fact that it’s slow as hell
@@anthonywalters7434 I've got a 2008 bmw 328i, only had for about a month, but I love it.
@@spicysnowman8886 that’s awesome. Take good care of it. I’ve seen those things get built up very nicely into really fun project cars
@@anthonywalters7434 it's a manual too, so very fun, but I'll probably keep it relatively stock because it's my only car.
Ok I hate commenting on videos but here it is. I am genuinely entertained by you guys. I love watching car shows and has been a car review guy since I was a kid. Some of the jokes you guys make are hilarious and clever. Congratulations on reaching the level appropriately being entertaining while reviewing the car appropriately. I obviously cannot say you guys are close to Top Gear or any of the other TV shows because they have huge budgets but appropriately so you guys are just as entertaining.
I love James’ (from throttle house) Century. So far his V12 has been dead reliable.
Nicely balanced review chaps. I had a 4.4V8 diesel 2010 Range Rover for a couple of years and loved every minute of the 20k miles I did in it.
The hardest part of a Land Rover is just keeping them running. It will either frustrate you or bankrupt you but as they age, you’re no longer going to have a pleasant experience.
Land Rover's are notorious for their lack of reliability. There are several auto enthusiast memes about it. It's pretty awful.
@@jalopy2472 AUDI's too ?
These old vs new comparison videos are my favorite format that you do and what absolutely hooked me on your content. Love it!
True story. I know a guy with a 2021 diesel Landrover Discovery. A warning light came up, he got it checked, they reassured him that everything is OK. A week later he took his family in that car for a skiing holiday from Ireland to France. The holiday cost him an extra €15,000 when the car broke down in France.
5:17 “the taillights R hidden, U don’t notice them until their lit. I have friends like that” 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭 quite possibly the BEST THING I EVER HEARD 😂😂😂😂
Great looking SUV! It's amazing how Land Rover has made an unreliable SUV so iconic.
That Michael Cane joke was truly next level lmao.
Epic opening 🤣 Range Rover drivers have never impressed me, and I’ve seen thousands of them over the years.
So what's unimpressive about them? I'd wager they are better mechanics than you.
@@fredbrackely lmao you are one arent you. The vast majority of rr owners do not do their own maintenance so yeah lmao.
Genuinely, the writing/dialogue on your videos is slicker and funnier than any other car reviewers - minimalist design to not stand-out to the lower classes is just hilarious!
dude the way he says Yeah after breaking down ,It cracks me up every time
My dad has always wanted a Range Rover. A few years back, when he turned 55, he was dead set on buying one. He had had a huge promotion at work, there were no big expenses coming, it was the right time to go out and buy one.
We couldn't find one affordable enough. The prices are insane! And there were no units available either. When you got to their official website, they had like 3 actual used ones on sale, and that was about it.
After that, he rented one on a trip, and he wasn't impressed. We started a business with the money instead.
Love the witty humor in the introduction😂 these guys are great
I just hope somewhere in a land far far away...James, Richard and Jeremy see this video and nod in approval that the world of car enthusiast is in good hands for the next generation. (and maybe someday we are blessed with a crossover episode)
Clarkson, Hammond and May will forever be legends! I'm also glad to see some people following in their footsteps.
My dad bought a 4.4 v8 range rover for 5k. Has so much technology and it actually is reliable.
There’s just something about that older RR that just calls to me even knowing its reliability sucks, I really want one - somebody please make it stop 🥴😩
I’m in the same boat, the boxy look of it is what calls me but I get mixed reviews on them but still want to pull the trigger on one
My 2011 sport lux stresses me out and general repairs are definitely expensive but having said that,I’m so in love with my RR. It’s 100% worth it. Amazing driving experience, beautiful vehicle
Range Rover has really changed over the past years. New ones look dope! and yeah.. Great Video!
Most of them carry dope too lol
15:49 More vehicles should come with double sun visors. My '09 Passat had them and I've missed having them in every vehicle I've had since.
I had them in a mid 90s Ford Taurus and have missed them on every car since.
The older generation range rover has double Sun visors too
My 2003 Ford Excursion has them and I appreciate them whenever I am driving to work early in the morning.
I also agree, my 2002 Saab 9-5 wagon has double visors too.
I have a 5.0 Supercharged L322. It has over 230km. It’s definitely British motoring at its finest, meaning it’s great when it works, but it’s not without its minor reliability issues.
Also, I think the L322 in this video is not a real Autobiography Ultimate, just badges as such. It’s a fully optioned HSE.
The Autobiography ultimate had leather headlining and teakwood trunk and leather door cards and it’s a very very very rare car.
You know it is a range rover when it starts to have minor reliability issue on 230 kms
@@-_--le3zk 100%
@@-_--le3zk if it was Japanese…that’s when you’d have to do the first oil change 😂
@@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor oh no,dont worry about changing oil,you will not need that in a landcruiser,it will work just fine
@@-_--le3zk haha. So they say…
I really love this old generation RR, it's so subtle and elegant, timeless design. Yes, legendary unreliable, but still great car even now.
Just bought a 1012 Autobiography yesterday having listened to real wold experiences from log term users and having done well over 200,000 miles in contemporary Jags (last was the 4.2 supercharged V8 which has never had a single issue up to 170,000 miles on the engine) with no issues at all with regular maintenance - and that includes trips around the Nurburgring and Oulton Park (the last 2004 Jag needs new sills so I'm deciding what to do with it - the rest is as good as new - which still amazes me). This Range Rover looks pretty spectacular and I'm just expecting reasonably expensive maintenance as on any luxury/performance car ...so lets see how this goes. My real world experience means I'm relaxed and looking forward to not only only fun on the road, but using it as the world's largest lawnmower with a flail mower in my backyard ... luxury and mud plugging - that's what these are about ☺
WITHOUT A DOUBT the single best car show out there on ANY platform. Keep up the good work guys - the time and effort into the production quality shows. Thank you!
Just need to say - my 2011 RR Sport has 160k miles and is going strong. Looks good next to the M2, as well, Thomas
I had a 2012 L322 ATB and those badges are definitely aftermarket, though still a nice vehicle. That tan interior is brutal though, but you can get those cheaper.
2010s Range Rovers were at the peak of its design that stayed true to its original design heritage that I feel gets lost with the newer models and I think that's why so many people still want to take a chance at owning one. I loved the boxy utilitarian look of its profile that still maintains a certain prestige and elegance while the rounded version is just giving me vibes of a early 2000s Ford Expedition. Everything else about it is beautiful and the interior is stunning, I just really dislike that they decided to go this direction for the exterior.
I personally like the exterior look of the older model. It looks more rugged. I think the previous gen still looks like a good in between all this time later.
Same, it also looks a lot easier to use. I hate putting everything on a touch screen.
The interior of the old one blew me away. I thought it was the new one. I see why people buy these now
The new 2022 Range Rover with its EV vibes makes it really adorable.
I wonder whom they are getting that motor from?
@@DuvJones
That design right?
@@89ayobami honestly if you're expecting a design change then I don't know what to tell you because I highly doubt that Land Rover will change the design all that much.
The question here given that they got this engine from BMW is if they're getting their electric motor from BMW as well?
@@DuvJones like from the iX?
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Maybe, that is the only one that I can think of but even if it was from the iX motor development isn't static... something, alot of things might have changed.
The easy solution is just to buy both so you have something to drive when the other is broken down
I completely get Thomas..."I hate that I want one." I honestly like all the buttons. We just got a 2015 LX. Perfect plend off 1000s buttons, no turn dial, and some touch screen. But yes, old Rane interior for the win in my book.
I owned an '07 Land Rover and it nearly nickel-and-dimed me to death, worst of was the "Three Amigos" engine failure. It was one single device that managed the ABS brakes,traction control and hill descent. Plus a dozen other little things. I swear I (eventually) put as much into keeping it running as I did buying it. Not to mention it was designed for a much smaller person.
I have owned three Land Rovers and one Range Rover. Never experiencing a catastrophic failure. I currently own a 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, with Autobiography trim. I also have an 2013 LR4 HSE LUX, the last of the V8 Discovery’s. I think the Fifth Generation Range is truly an homage to the Third Gen L322. With respect to my Rover Experience, I have maintained both with proactive maintenance, always dealer serviced. There is no other SUV on the road that compares to Land Rover or Range Rover. The rugged elegance, paired with the crisp conservative lines make it a stand out wherever you go. There is a reason why Range Rover was exhibited in the Louvre in 1971. Every time you get behind the wheel, close the door and look out over the bonnet, you realize just how special these Rovers are. Looking forward to this next generation. No Rover is for the faint of heart, notwithstanding your financial ability, this is brand that requires respect and attention. Sadly many Rover owners fail to understand its history or appreciate its capability. Just because you have the means to buy one doesn’t, mean you should. If you don’t appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into a well pair of hand made shoes or a fine cut of a tailored wool suit and/or you are not willing to care and maintain such finishings, maybe you should think about another luxury SUV. Rover is not a Cadillac, or even a Mercedes. Rover is in a class all by itself.
Fear not, Keep Calm and Rover On!
Wouldn't it technically be the UK's 4th most luxurious SUV now that Aston Martin is producing one as well??
They look pretty even tbh, Aston martins are sportier and range rovers are more expensive than ever and have a LWB option
@@judygillespie3717 true depends on criteria. IG I’m thinking brand prestige
I freaking LOVE the design in and out, front to back, side to side. Its PERFECT. But.... The rear turn signals had to be an afterthought...
9:00 this part of the video would be a great Snickers commercial 😂
I was disappointed to see the original top gear end but then this.......brings a smile to my soul
You need 2 range rovers, one to drive around while you fix the another
The intro was too complex for my brain but I actually like the old one more. It has more character, looks more solid (even if it´s the opposite) and feels more mechanical. I´d buy three old ones so that I´ll always have one in functioning condition.
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There’s a lot of similarities between this and the Cullinan, which raises the question: would it really be worth it to pay that extra $400,000?
Absolutely. Cullinan won't break down on you 6 months after you buy and you won't lose 90% of its value after 10 years.
Nope, but logic doesn't exist in the Cullinan the market - and neither do looks
Yes the Rolls-Royce may not be off-road as the range but when you drive a Rolls-Royce Cullinan you wouldn't want to drive the range again
Yes, a rolls royce is literally on a totally different level compared to a rover in all aspects except the off road capability
@@ramadhanisme7 well the ride is comfortable beyond comprehension, i was just thinking about reliability, offroad capability, and exterior design. Idk if that’s enough for an actual comparison, I just think it could start a conversation.
Cracked me up when I saw "Brandy" by Looking Glass in the gauge cluster! 😂😂
They like cars so much, they imitate them when they stutter 😂 10:35
I have a 2011 full sized supercharged Range Rover and I'm loving the no problem life. Channels like these all ways try to poke holes in the Range Rover but, their is NO better off road vehicle.
Facts! It's a tired trope used for cheap laughs that's gotten stale.
Range Rovers are surprisingly robust! I seem them go through potholes and dirty car parks often at the hands of valets. I even saw one go over a curb at the organic foods collective!
Oh my god
Just had my 2011 Jaguar with the supercharged 5L blow and need to watch this multiple times to stop myself from buying a Range Rover for the winter 😂
Buy it. YOLO! plus it's a Range Rover
Ok you convinced me
Where u racing on every street
@@mikeystepback8639 not every street lol
Nothing beats the one man one machine feeling of driving the original range rover classic....and living in Wales!
I have a 2008 Supercharged and they do live up to their reputations (and I'm told I have the best iteration of the bunch), but it's not worth enough money to get rid of for how well it drives. One thing I love about it besides all the physical controls is simply the leather on the steering wheel. There is something so nice about it. I did just have to put two new front air struts on and paid for Arnott units from FCP Euro at a third or less of the price of OEM units. And these they'll replace for free (not including labor) if they ever go wrong. Now to fix that coolant leak, power steering leak, sagging headliner, torn seats, scraped paint... yeah put a little money aside if you pick one of these up.
Here in Australia prices remain insanely high. I couldn't find a 2010 Rangie but a 2013 with 260,000kms is listed for A$80,000 which converts to over $70,000 Canadian.
Parts and labour are also far more expensive here.
Retained value on Australian cars are ridiculous when viewed against the global market.
I hear ya.
Yeah, a strange place - Australia.
Cars that are used as taxis in Albania, in Australia are considered "prestige". LOL
@@iqnill cos we have a luxury import tax my friend. it was put in place to protect local manufacturing and now we don't manufacture here anymore the tax.............remains!!!
I just bought a 05 HSE with 230k kms for 500 here in Canada with the bmw 4.4 , it won't move in drive though, hopefully its just low in trans fluid or I'm parting it out and scrapping it
@@dmbassett It's got nothing to do with the luxury tax - that only applies at first sale and only on dollars above $77,000. Cars costing 2 to 3 times as much here is down to greed from the manufacturers/importers and a captive market with no ways of brining in other markets cars.
When taxes were reduced under the Button plan prices didn't change - just profits increased.
It's people like you blaming the government when it's the companies at fault that make it so easy for them to keep fleecing us.