Former owner of a gas powered 1999 Land Cruiser V8. 406,000 miles and the body is excellent, engine spins like a top, no leaks, everything works, and A/C blows ice cold.
its so sad, being a New and Nice Car for off-roading…. The LC300 isn’t supplied in the UK. That’s why MAT hasn’t reviewed one yet.. he can’t even Find one in the US!
When I lived in East Africa [Kenya] in the 1970s and early 1980s (my dad was with the Flying Doctor Service) there were lots of Land Rovers, very few Range Rovers, and countless Toyotas. The Land Rovers were much-loved by expat Brits and did pretty well; they were relatively simple, old-school machines and survived the often horrendous conditions if treated with respect. Parts were cheap, the basic vehicles were rugged and durable, and servicing and repairing could be carried out by any competent mechanic. Range Rovers were expensive and rare and so were only ever seen in towns and cities ferrying government officials between fancy hotels. They were too precious to be hammered off road, although the great rally driver Rob Collinge used Range Rovers in the Safari. He had to completely rebuild them, though, to cope with the extreme conditions. The Land Cruisers were tremendous. Tough, reliable, and virtually unstoppable. Unlike the Land Rovers they were less like comfy tractors and more like regular cars, so they not only coped with the bush (a.k.a. 'MAMOBA' - Miles And Miles Of Bloody Africa'), but were equally at home in towns and cities. They were so good that they were taken for granted, and there's no better recommendation for a vehicle in a challenging environment. The Land Rovers responded well to careful treatment and sensible maintenance schedules; the Land Cruisers just worked, no matter how badly they were abused. I've got no experience of modern versions of either vehicle, but I'm willing to bet that they're both hell to work on. That's not important if they function perfectly all the time, but... When you're stranded in the middle of nowhere with a dashboard warning message that says 'ECU error - Gearbox Mode 4 Interface Malfunction; Contact Service Centre', you want to be able to put things right with a jack, a stick, a screwdriver, and a hammer. You need a car with a cast-iron reputation, and the Toyota's proved itself all over the world for decades. In my experience, a super-sophisticated Land (or Range) Rover MIGHT work flawlessly, but then again, it might not. And that's when you stop caring about trick diffs and air suspension and air-conditioned shiatsu massage seats and wish you'd bought something that just ruddy-well WORKED. If I were planning a trip to somewhere remote, I'd take the Land Cruiser. If I were an English farmer doing nothing more dodgy than checking fields of spuds, I'd probably still choose the Toyota. Better reputation. Better value for money. Your opinion may vary...😁
I feel I'm in an emperor's clothes universe questioning why I should complain that vehicles are now such a mass of unfathomable gubbings that you have little chance of easy wilderness repairs. So you are better either in something old and simple or new and reliable. Or both, and a 1990s W460 Diesel G Wagen is probably the ultimate weapon of choice.
Spot on my friend, you either know or you don't, and I'm afraid the majority in this country who can borrow money haven't a clue, the JLR range of vehicles are automotive boob jobs and Botox, the really sad thing is that they think people, their neighbours , family friends or whatever are impressed 🤣
I've owned both vehicles. Range Rovers are smooth as silk over rough terrain, but have expensive electrical problems and do not hold up well. Land Cruisers are a bit of a rougher ride, but even if you roll one, it can get you back home.
The most important thing here is that a 14 year old Land Cruiser (2008 model) without lockers went everywhere the newest and most technologically advanced Range Rover with rear lockers went.
I don't think getting 2 the destination is the issue here. The real question is, how did u get there? Yo argument sounds mo like someone comparing one individual flying in a private jet from Australia to New Zealand n the other flying economy. Trust me! U both get there but I can guarantee u the experience is not even close. U dig?? Bottom line, there is a very good reason y the range costs 4 times that of the Toyota. But the bummer here is most Range Rover owners live in cities were mo than half of the amenities of the vehicle never get applied/explored. The vehicle is mo of a status symbol.
No, they should have tested the 2022 Range Rover vs 2022 Land Cruiser but still the Range Rover has the advantage -that's why I changed and bought one.
I owned a Land Cruiser 80 series with the HZ engine for 12 years and literally nothing on it broke in that time, the gearbox started sticking slightly one winter, I had used it for towing trailers and regularly up and down a bumpy track. My friend had a discovery 3 at the same time and it was constantly in and out of the garage I may have just been lucky/unlucky but I've stuck to Japanese engineering ever since.
@@muzammilkhan680 Simple, it will take you there or far away but it won't bring you back. More like you will need to take a flight back home. Otherwise, you will ride with the recovery trackback. Which isn't ideal. Take your passport with at all time if you driving range rover. On the other hand no issues with land cruise
The way that the RR climbed that final hill making it look like a regular road was amazing. Still if I was interested in doing some serious off roading here in Australia I'd pick the cruiser. They have a solid history of people actually taking them serious off roading and making it back.
I spend 99% of my time in outback Australia and have seen more LC's on the back of flat beds than I've had breakfasts. That may well be because there are thousands of them. In fact, i think its something like 1 MILLION of them have been sold in Australia over the years. There are so many of them, not because they are particularly reliable .. but because Toyota does MASSIVE lease deals with mining companies .. hence Toyota Service Centres on just about every street corner. Toyota certainly beats LR hands down on the number of service centres. Check with ANY Landcruiser service centre and you will find that they are booked out doing repairs to these 'reliable' 4x4's. As far as repairs go, LR is possibly cheaper for repairs than Toyota .. especially when you consider that most LR owners do repairs themselves. There is also a FAR MORE 'social' aspect around LR owners, clubs and forums .. a tremendous amount of help out there from the multitude of LR forums in particular. Where are the Landcruiser forums? Guy in his 200 Series LC opposite me just had his radiator replaced .. a $2,000 job .. due to some 'plastic' part failure and quite a common fault apparently. The fact is BOTH Land Rover and Toyota are NOT as reliable as they used to be years ago, but as far as comfort goes, LR are light years ahead of any LC. If you want to question Land Rover's 'pedigree' .. just look up 'Camel Trophy' on RUclips. Please direct me to the Toyota's 'equivalent'.
@@davidhuett3579 hard to find an equivalent one is 3 times dearer than the other ...i'm an ex RACV patrolman 20 yrs Yarra Valley Vic..i think we towed every RR..Disco .LR. in the valley at least 2 time ..my patrol car ..HI Lux ..petrol ..had 600.000kms..still drove like new same everything only service parts ever replaced ..retired ..still going strong ..
Toyota Land Cruiser all the way range rover are so crap you cant insure them in the uk anymore and they break down here were the roads are good compared to other countries
Be honest, the real challenge for these vehicles is to see which is the easiest to manoeuvre in a supermarket car park or can complete the school run in the shortest time.
In the UK the RR is far preferred due to its unmatched ability to get across wet grass, sticky mud, and through deep farm track ruts and uneven ground, especially when towing trailers. These are the predominant problems here. The RR's tight turning circle is a godsend when negotiating narrow woodland tracks with a farm trailer. Also, the rising and lowering suspension makes putting trailers on the tow hitch far easier. Getting stuck in the mud in the UK is seldom life threatening except for emergency services, but it is a nuisance to have to get the tractor out. So RR's save a lot of time and hassle, and they can also double up as a great motorway cruiser and are fine in town too which saves having to buy a second car. In the UK there is always a Landrover specialist nearby to fix things within a few hours, so the reliability issue is minor. Lastly cost. Excellent secondhand diesel RR Sports are plentiful and cheap as chips in the UK, making them perhaps the most economical and capable 4WD farm transport. This is why most UK country folk have some sort of Landrover.
Finally, someone on RUclips talking sense about Rangies. I love full fat Land Cruisers to bits but the Range Rover is perfectly designed for the UK (although the amount of theft is frankly ridiculous).
Rangies are more common because they are local. The LC is still better on most of those surfaces you stated. Tires matter a lot for that basic soccer mom stuff
My dad and uncle were working in Siberia from 1992. First car was a Land Rover defender. It just refused to start at 45 degrees negative. Then was something American, if my memory serves me well. That crap broke down even faster. Then it was a land cruiser from 1998. That car was running and driving almost 20 years. Has over 1m km on its odometer. Never gave us hard time. Truly, it’s an AK-47 in the realm of cars
@@thabisomatime906 you won’t believe it. Spark plugs changed at 200k. Oil changed at 50k km. Mechanic was shocked. It was molasses consistency and color. Got major job like transmission fluid change, filters etc at 500k km. Not because nobody cared about the car. It’s just was too far. Nearest mechanic was over 350 km away, and Toyota dealership with proper service was it city of Tyumen, approximately 1000 km away.
Bro the defender can't start up at 45 angle 🤦 that's the only drawback of it due to having a old school engine the petrol can't pass upwards. Other than that, it always is better than lc ever
@@ignotus9085 oh ,thats other matter, i was taking about another problem which I think lc also has, At -45 celcius I can't say anything coz I wasn't there but we're you sure both were petrol and not disel? Coz disel doesn't start in cold
The cruiser can do this challenge everyday for 10 years without breaking trust me. The rover will do it for 1month and then engine light will appear trust me.
@itsshamsi that's exactly what I wanted to say why use and old generation Land Cruiser against a new generation Range Rover that's not realistic at all
Having owned a FJ80 4.2 TD Landcruiser and currently a Range Rover, The LC was slightly better off road, the electronics help in the RR and having 3 locking diffs on the LC really made it a very capable off roader. My current RR has centre and rear diff locks and coupled with the traction control for the front wheels make off-roading effortless, where the LC you had to take a lot more care with how you drove it. Most weekends you could find me up top of the Pennines in the LC.
Let me say this. The Land cruiser is a tough car made for tough roads. However, the driver of the Land cruiser willingly and knowingly made the mistakes which brought the points low. So blame the driver for his poor driving and not the Land cruiser!!!
Dude. Seriously. Get over it. It’s just for fun. I suppose you think the low profile tyres on the Range Rover help it ? The Rangie has amazing tech. It’s a huge help. The ride being IFS and IRS suspension will mean it will handle better on bumps and cornering. That being said. Would I take a Range Rover on a serious expedition ? Hhhmmm. I think not. While they are clearly a more refined vehicle I wouldn’t trust it like a Landcruiser. My 2 cents is. The range is far superior but if reliability is what you’re after I’d go the cruiser with twin lockers every day.
The tech is exactly what rural remote and outback owners hate, too much to go wrong and too few service agents to repair them. Also few 4wd here in Oz aren't modified with local upgrades including appropriate tyres and suspension lifts/upgrades.
The tech is exactly what rural remote and outback owners hate, too much to go wrong and too few service agents to repair them. Also few 4wd here in Oz aren't modified with local upgrades including appropriate tyres and suspension lifts/upgrades.
@@GreenTheScreen123 no they're not. They need to be imported from Japan. The Prado and old v8s are fairly common but since the 2000s the v8s have become rarer and rarer in the UK
@@TheFlyingClutchman you clearly don't do your research they're also manufactured in China which then are shipped off to the UK and that includes V8 200 series because I'll tell you now I go trailing every single weekend and I see at least 5 to 10 per day most of the time they're completely different well not being directly sold in the UK from Toyota dealerships they are bought from China and shipped to the UK so you don't need to go through all that BS of shipping stuff through Japan all I know is you really got to do your research buddy
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The Range Rover is really bad lol, just because its a really expensive 4x4 SUV clearly doesn't make it a off-offroader, the range rover is too short and heavy to do well in off-roading, the places they test off-roading you can go to with a trabant.
Interesting. With many years in Africa, away from towns, I'm used to using 'various Toyota products', so perhaps nice to see just how competent the RR really was. Good point was to consider how it would fare 'in the real world', for months at a time .... Al.
I did, was just about to comment the same but thought I'd come across as a twat, makes you think where the money goes to these charities, obviously the CEOs car with the private plate
Yeah, my unpopular opinion probably is that the Land Cruiser looked amazing in that color scheme paired with those wheels. Looked so clean too. Love it!
Hi Matt, enjoyed seeing the 4 by 4 joust between these two cars. Would be interesting to explore further; such as how each model/engine system copes with varying qualities of fuel, how easy are they to get competently serviced around the globe. Targeting the luxury market with a high spec system that on paper performs very well, a high performance engine that is very sensitive to varying fuel quality, dependent upon top notch servicing, good traction control but how well do they do in the real world. One of these car manufacturers made (sadly in my view) a decision a while ago to focus on the high end market share at the expense of the broader market with more mass appeal. The result; around the world and outside of modern cities of the developed world, one of these makes is much easier to maintain and readily repair than the other one. And when you're remote or in the middle of the desert you have enough to worry about as it is. London to Cape Town, now that would put them through their paces?
There are 10 year old Discoverys that have about 200k miles but never broke down. Not sure about the Range Rover but as I know never models are reliable.
Own them both. A 2017 LC and new rangie. LC is still the real deal. RR already been to the shop twice. Sigh 😢somethings never change. LC stellar as ever and escalating in price in the USA monthly ❤
I've owned both these identical cars and the RR is junk in comparison. Also I think Matt fudges these offroad vids as the RR I just got rid off last year couldn't even get down the same routes as my old Grand Vitara could around 2006-2008. It's already been well proven that LC are better offroad buy Matt is happy to shill out to LR he's done it before too.
Without a doubt I am impressed with the Range, since it has low profile - all season tires. Of course, the land cruiser will go the distance and if there is anything wrong it will be easily fixable (it is repair friendly).
@@christiaanliebenberg5645 I do my own maintenance and repair whenever possible on my LR3. Tens of videos on DIY right here on RUclips. It saves me $185 an hour my mechanic (technician) charges me because he's got a lift and I don't. How come there are no Rent-a-Lift businesses for vehicles?
The choice between a Toyota Land Cruiser and a Land Rover depends on various factors, including personal preferences, specific needs, and usage requirements. Both vehicles are renowned for their off-road capabilities and have their own distinct features. Here are some points to consider: Toyota Land Cruiser: Reliability: Toyota vehicles, including the Land Cruiser, have a reputation for being incredibly reliable and durable. Off-road performance: The Land Cruiser is known for its exceptional off-road capabilities, with advanced features like a robust four-wheel-drive system, solid axle suspension, and excellent ground clearance. Resale value: Land Cruisers tend to retain their value well over time, making them a good investment. Land Rover: Luxury and refinement: Land Rovers, particularly models like the Range Rover, offer luxurious interiors, premium materials, and advanced comfort features. Off-road prowess: Land Rovers have a strong off-road heritage and are equipped with sophisticated technologies, such as Terrain Response systems, which optimize the vehicle's performance on different surfaces. Styling: Land Rover vehicles often feature distinctive and eye-catching designs, combining elegance and ruggedness. Ultimately, the "better" choice depends on your priorities. If you prioritize reliability and durability, the Land Cruiser may be a suitable option. If you value luxury, refinement, and advanced technology, a Land Rover might be more appealing. It's advisable to test drive both vehicles, research their features, and consider your specific needs before making a decision.
as nice as that Range is I would personally go for the Land Cruiser. Mostly because I've never knew they had a diesel option, wish we got these in the states. That thing is BADASS!
@@skylined5534 the new lc300 comes with a diesel too. But the new range rover d350 is superior with 346 hp n 700 nm which can return a mileage of average 34-38. One guy in youtube got 41mpg🤣
@@geoffbell166 it depends. If those who lease it will have this problem since that suv requires regular maintenance a lot can go wrong if delayed. Have atleast 40-50k for maintenance and you will be good to go for the next 5-7 years or so. N experience will be something land cruiser can never match. But again if you dont have extra 50k reserved then do not buy it. If you plan not to get it regularly it will. Lc is for longevity with less dollars and rover is for extreme everything including offroad capability and extremely good even better than a rolls royce cullinan sound system(option 29 speaker or 35 on the new one). Name me a car of that caliber returning a mileage of 34mpg. Also l405 has a range of 1400+km on a single fill (104 capacity x 14.4kmpl)
1979 my father got the first Land Cruiser, in Tanzania. I've had one or a Hilux ever since. On my 5th cruiser now. Can't even think of changing. If it's in an expensive country, I travel a lot, I just get a Hilux otherwise a cruiser. My current one is 5.7 V8 Cruiser, that's going to really give this RR a tough time if Matt used it.
@@purwantiallan5089 Obviously it wouldn't perform as well as a Range Rover I'm saying i would have loved to see the 2nd gen instead of the 1st gen LC 200
Toyota with a diesel at that price would be very appealing... Range Rover/Land Rovers are amazing off road. Reliability is always suspect. A G-wagon would be fun in this also. Lockers always for rough road!!!
What I want to know is why "Planets Charity" owns a $140,000 Range Rover?! Did They Use Some Donations Towards a Ridiculous Expensive Vehicle??? Lmao!!
I remember doing a stint in Oman back in the 80's. We were clunking around in Pink Panther Landrovers. Oman SF who could afford whatever they liked, were playing in Land cruisers. Rovers were pants if I'm honest. It was common knowledge for many years that L/Rover saw the MOD as a massive cash cow and never bothered updating or refining their vehicles, as the contract was a sure thing. Finally, someone with a set of balls decided to give Pinz Gauer a shot. Multi-platform, multi terrain vehicles. Kicked the arse out of the Rovers. Nuff said.
Nobody's going to buy them anyway because any range Rover from the year 2005 to 2012 for the most unreliable electrically faulty pieces of crap ever to be put on the road
@@mediocreman2 Not sold in the uk yes we know as matt said but still would be a better comparison if he found one in the uk cuz this video comparison wasnt much of a comparison
Bro who puts a rear locker on with out puting a front on too we all know no one is going to put an extra locker on a range rover, its actually more common to see land cruisers with full locking diffs making it better
Such a good program thank you! The Old Land Cruiser looks like an early 1990's vehicle, it looks like a Japanese vehicle from prior to Japan went into its lost, now coming up to 4 decades. The "Landie" as we call it here in New Zealand is still a Legend! The name "Landie" was once owned by Land Rover for 2-3 Decades and then the Great Brand Toyota took over the affectionate name "Landie" and showcased brilliant Japanese Engineering at its best! It was great in the Southern Alps, McKenzie Country, getting up to the Ski fields, bush tracks hunting etc but it has become too expensive, both these vehicles have been replaced here in New Zealand by the Ford Ranger. Now we can buy 3 Ford Rangers for the price of a Toyota Landcruiser and yes the Ford Ranger is reliable as its Toyota! There is nothing like the original Jeep, and then the Aluminum Land Rover. On Farms in NZ, when the Land Rover's engine crapped out as it did relatively early in its life Cockies (Farmers) here would drop in a GM Holden, or Ford Straight Six Engine and the old beast would go on forever, many are still going and valued on Farms. Japan is now an expensive place to make things, but its Brands always stand for Quality. Toyota will come back as long as Japan only makes top Quality Products which I expect them to do!
Ford trucks are good, but Toyota is much better. Especially here in the United States where they're driving much closer to the million mile mark. I sold my Tundra with just over 250k miles and I only ever replaced the alternater. Hopefully the Ranger holds up to the test if time.
@@therednsx Thats weird the latest stats show Ford as the most sought after vehicle in the states especialy the F150 which outsells every flippin thing
@@darrengoodale6854 mine of my range rover sport never had anything, thats my proof. Not from an american web fully sponsored by the competition with fake reports and accounts from the internet. Thats called fake news, you learned something new today.
6:55 129066 miles on the LC200, I wonder in the same 120k miles how many times that Range Rover will be in a workshop awaiting repairs, monthly maybe 🤣🤣
While that Cruiser probably had only oil changes and brake pads done, and it's maybe on its original rotors, at least at the back. It's literally brand new at 130k miles. While 130k on that Range would probably be it's death after a few transmissions, a dozen modules and motors, and maybe an engine or two.
it's a fact that Toyota did made reliable car, that is why Saudi buy so many Landcruiser more that buying Range Rover. I have watch some video about Landcruiser owner is Saudi and they really tell that Toyota are better in reliability even better than Nissan Patrol
This is obvoiusly just "very light" off-roading. 'Coz the conditions you've tackled here is just like the driveway on our farm from the mainroad to the residence. 😁😁
It is disappointing that a lot of comparisons do not compare like with like. Vehicles should have similar tyres etc and both have the same locking differential. I know this may make the comparison costly but I think it would be more interesting.
Hmm...pretty sure by visuals alone, one is luxury vehicle and they other is an under dog. Why not run them head on and the same speed and see which still drives away. Then turn the 2 over and drop them on their and see if the driver and passengers arn't crushed.
A serious comparison is kind of pointless. If you want a car to show off to your yuppie friends get the Range Rover. For everything else the LandCruiser is superior. Theres a reason why you never see Range Rovers doing 4WD.
@@LabiaLicker I think the reason you dont see range rovers doing 4wd is more because of the cost of the things, if money didnt matter I would take the range rover as in lots of test videos it genuinely seems more capable, but in the real world I would take the land cruiser
@@Sunburnae92 22 years range rover can easily seen on road, they may have a few problems but most problems are from those which doesn't even exist in lc
Land Cruiser: £30,000
Range Rover: £138,000
Which are you choosing?
yes🥰🥰
Range Rover
Land cruiser because Toyota.
Land Cruise rall day everyday
Toyota
Former owner of a gas powered 1999 Land Cruiser V8. 406,000 miles and the body is excellent, engine spins like a top, no leaks, everything works, and A/C blows ice cold.
2UZ FE block I believe
@@leonismo7427 Dude if u push a range rover like a toyota than it will shit itself😂
Former owner of a 1999 Range Rover........umm... yeah that's all
@@pbmcgme176 was it reliable?
@@ShifatAhmed07 LOL - need you ask.
Fabulous clash. Would have loved to see the latest Range Rover go up against the latest Land Cruiser 300 GR-Sport edition
SUV Battle YT channel
its so sad, being a New and Nice Car for off-roading…. The LC300 isn’t supplied in the UK.
That’s why MAT hasn’t reviewed one yet.. he can’t even Find one in the US!
@@propacs3275 he could always come down to Australia
@@amirhossainzadeh3951 nice….he’s Matwatson After All, he has To WOW us😂
Exactly.The new Ranger rover should be compared to the new LC300
When I lived in East Africa [Kenya] in the 1970s and early 1980s (my dad was with the Flying Doctor Service) there were lots of Land Rovers, very few Range Rovers, and countless Toyotas. The Land Rovers were much-loved by expat Brits and did pretty well; they were relatively simple, old-school machines and survived the often horrendous conditions if treated with respect.
Parts were cheap, the basic vehicles were rugged and durable, and servicing and repairing could be carried out by any competent mechanic.
Range Rovers were expensive and rare and so were only ever seen in towns and cities ferrying government officials between fancy hotels. They were too precious to be hammered off road, although the great rally driver Rob Collinge used Range Rovers in the Safari. He had to completely rebuild them, though, to cope with the extreme conditions.
The Land Cruisers were tremendous. Tough, reliable, and virtually unstoppable. Unlike the Land Rovers they were less like comfy tractors and more like regular cars, so they not only coped with the bush (a.k.a. 'MAMOBA' - Miles And Miles Of Bloody Africa'), but were equally at home in towns and cities.
They were so good that they were taken for granted, and there's no better recommendation for a vehicle in a challenging environment. The Land Rovers responded well to careful treatment and sensible maintenance schedules; the Land Cruisers just worked, no matter how badly they were abused.
I've got no experience of modern versions of either vehicle, but I'm willing to bet that they're both hell to work on. That's not important if they function perfectly all the time, but...
When you're stranded in the middle of nowhere with a dashboard warning message that says 'ECU error - Gearbox Mode 4 Interface Malfunction; Contact Service Centre', you want to be able to put things right with a jack, a stick, a screwdriver, and a hammer.
You need a car with a cast-iron reputation, and the Toyota's proved itself all over the world for decades. In my experience, a super-sophisticated Land (or Range) Rover MIGHT work flawlessly, but then again, it might not. And that's when you stop caring about trick diffs and air suspension and air-conditioned shiatsu massage seats and wish you'd bought something that just ruddy-well WORKED.
If I were planning a trip to somewhere remote, I'd take the Land Cruiser. If I were an English farmer doing nothing more dodgy than checking fields of spuds, I'd probably still choose the Toyota.
Better reputation. Better value for money.
Your opinion may vary...😁
Throughout that very long post, I suspect you were consistently confusing Range Rover with Land Rover
I feel I'm in an emperor's clothes universe questioning why I should complain that vehicles are now such a mass of unfathomable gubbings that you have little chance of easy wilderness repairs. So you are better either in something old and simple or new and reliable. Or both, and a 1990s W460 Diesel G Wagen is probably the ultimate weapon of choice.
Spot on my friend, you either know or you don't, and I'm afraid the majority in this country who can borrow money haven't a clue, the JLR range of vehicles are automotive boob jobs and Botox, the really sad thing is that they think people, their neighbours , family friends or whatever are impressed 🤣
@@ToeCutter69 .. Curiosity .. what do you drive ?
let's try to keep it short
I've owned both vehicles. Range Rovers are smooth as silk over rough terrain, but have expensive electrical problems and do not hold up well. Land Cruisers are a bit of a rougher ride, but even if you roll one, it can get you back home.
I think driving a Range Rover on normal roads would maybe result in lasting??
Even worst, its Indian electrical issues, no resolve😊
Now do this test everyday for a year and see how they do
Test also BMW 330i vs Range Rover in an offroad battle.
Spot on
@@purwantiallan5089 why a sedan?
@@purwantiallan5089 why?
@@purwantiallan5089 …and a Mazda MX5.
Finally seeing an actual Land Cruiser doing the off road challenge 😍
We need the 70 series landcruiser!
where Lexus 600
It doesnt even have a rear locker, hardly a proper land cruiser. More like an entry level model.
@@samuelkimkung9532 or CZ-3 TARMAC vs Mini Rover 1.3 Euro Edition. Offroad battle.
@@ydid687 Lexus 600 and Renault Sport Spider: Are we a joke for you?
What I know nothing can beat a Land Cruiser off-road
Until any land rover vehicles comes
@@eagle4wdjeep And breaks for 5th time for servicing
@@Johnkremer215 that's a myth. Rovers are not unreliable that some people thinks. Not every vehicles are unreliable many rover proved.
These two will get you anywhere, but only one will get you out of there..we all know which one it is..😄😄
The Toyota is for terrorists and poors
The new Range Rover is yet to face the test if time regarding reliability. We can’t count it out yet. Hopefully it’s not as poor as it’s predecessors
@@napalmhotdog4365 .wise men say The more tech you squeeze into it, more often it breaks down.
Simple word is you can't afford one just admit it. Its OK if you happy with 10 year old tech.
@@raghavshankara5601 Neither you cannot afford one.
6:54 Land Cruiser dash says 129,066 miles. Unfair to the Range Rover. For a Land Cruiser, that’s basically brand new. 😅
😆😆😆 yep I feel bad for the Rover...
Yeah saw that
The Land Rover Range Rover is better than Toyota Land Cruiser.
@@patriciovivas2270 I’ve owned both. And I love both.
@@patriciovivas2270 facts
The most important thing here is that a 14 year old Land Cruiser (2008 model) without lockers went everywhere the newest and most technologically advanced Range Rover with rear lockers went.
yes he is comparing an old model of a land cruiser with a current model of Range Rover.. thats not fair.. and still Land cruiser perfomed better
.....And an old series land rover will probably do exactly the same .
@@kizzyp2735 Never Never.. 😄 thats bullshit
I don't think getting 2 the destination is the issue here. The real question is, how did u get there? Yo argument sounds mo like someone comparing one individual flying in a private jet from Australia to New Zealand n the other flying economy. Trust me! U both get there but I can guarantee u the experience is not even close. U dig?? Bottom line, there is a very good reason y the range costs 4 times that of the Toyota. But the bummer here is most Range Rover owners live in cities were mo than half of the amenities of the vehicle never get applied/explored. The vehicle is mo of a status symbol.
My 1949 Jeep Willys, my 1981 Jeep CJ7, or My 1973 Jeep Wagoneer can do the same, I think. Why talking about 2008 technology? 😂
You should have brought the 2022 LandCruiser to match the Range Rover!
Sadly, not available in the UK...emissions I think
@@fanum4030 well he also said you can't get that LC in the UK anymore
No, they should have tested the 2022 Range Rover vs 2022 Land Cruiser but still the Range Rover has the advantage -that's why I changed and bought one.
@@labiapalsty8392 how's your experience with range?
Yup! The 300 series is a very capable car indeed!
I owned a Land Cruiser 80 series with the HZ engine for 12 years and literally nothing on it broke in that time, the gearbox started sticking slightly one winter, I had used it for towing trailers and regularly up and down a bumpy track. My friend had a discovery 3 at the same time and it was constantly in and out of the garage I may have just been lucky/unlucky but I've stuck to Japanese engineering ever since.
Egg Yolk
In Africa we have vast amounts of real time data that proofs land cruisers to be far superior than landies😊😊😊
@@pietskiet42-_ Show us ?
My 2014 4Runner has 314k miles and still zero problems. You can't beat Toyota's reliability.
@@feszty My 2005 Land rover Discovery 3 has 460,000 klm and no problems shows how reliable Land rovers are lol !!
I would have liked to see the same test with the new Land Cruiser.
Not in the UK you won't.
@@skylined5534 in australia you will
Respect for getting an actual Land Cruiser this time
an "old" one compared to that new gen Range Rover but yeah its not a Prado like the first time after all
It's at least 2 generations old
@@pmwiky nope just one, but this is like two facelifts ago, so it could be like 11-12 years old
In the UK the Prado is a land cruiser.
@@beaviccoon470 Yes I know ! But that's why he said "an actual LC" and that's why I replied
Would you consider this over the Prado?
Make sure the Land rover has a heated rear windscreen in order to keep your hands warm in winter whilst pushing it.
lol true
😂😂😂So true.
totally agree ...
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Let’s wait 5 years and see which one will still be capable of finishing these challenges
That land cruiser is already over 5yrs old. It's the old shape
LandCruisers are built to last 30 years, Range Rovers until the warranty runs out
In Africa, they say if you take a range rover make sure you take your passport with you.
@@saeedmasha-allah2319 why ?
@@muzammilkhan680
Simple, it will take you there or far away but it won't bring you back. More like you will need to take a flight back home. Otherwise, you will ride with the recovery trackback. Which isn't ideal. Take your passport with at all time if you driving range rover. On the other hand no issues with land cruise
The way that the RR climbed that final hill making it look like a regular road was amazing. Still if I was interested in doing some serious off roading here in Australia I'd pick the cruiser. They have a solid history of people actually taking them serious off roading and making it back.
I spend 99% of my time in outback Australia and have seen more LC's on the back of flat beds than I've had breakfasts. That may well be because there are thousands of them. In fact, i think its something like 1 MILLION of them have been sold in Australia over the years. There are so many of them, not because they are particularly reliable .. but because Toyota does MASSIVE lease deals with mining companies .. hence Toyota Service Centres on just about every street corner. Toyota certainly beats LR hands down on the number of service centres.
Check with ANY Landcruiser service centre and you will find that they are booked out doing repairs to these 'reliable' 4x4's.
As far as repairs go, LR is possibly cheaper for repairs than Toyota .. especially when you consider that most LR owners do repairs themselves. There is also a FAR MORE 'social' aspect around LR owners, clubs and forums .. a tremendous amount of help out there from the multitude of LR forums in particular. Where are the Landcruiser forums?
Guy in his 200 Series LC opposite me just had his radiator replaced .. a $2,000 job .. due to some 'plastic' part failure and quite a common fault apparently.
The fact is BOTH Land Rover and Toyota are NOT as reliable as they used to be years ago, but as far as comfort goes, LR are light years ahead of any LC.
If you want to question Land Rover's 'pedigree' .. just look up 'Camel Trophy' on RUclips. Please direct me to the Toyota's 'equivalent'.
@@davidhuett3579 hard to find an equivalent one is 3 times dearer than the other ...i'm an ex RACV patrolman 20 yrs Yarra Valley Vic..i think we towed every RR..Disco .LR. in the valley at least 2 time ..my patrol car ..HI Lux ..petrol ..had 600.000kms..still drove like new same everything only service parts ever replaced ..retired ..still going strong ..
Toyota Land Cruiser all the way range rover are so crap you cant insure them in the uk anymore and they break down here were the roads are good compared to other countries
Be honest, the real challenge for these vehicles is to see which is the easiest to manoeuvre in a supermarket car park or can complete the school run in the shortest time.
who want to drop their kids in a toyota after paying that price ?
@@bsjddjk 😂😂
@@bsjddjk I’d have the Toyota any day
Wrong.. which one would still be around after 25 years.
Be honest, you never been off road so you have no idea what car people take off road. Hint: it includes these 2 cars.
In the UK the RR is far preferred due to its unmatched ability to get across wet grass, sticky mud, and through deep farm track ruts and uneven ground, especially when towing trailers. These are the predominant problems here. The RR's tight turning circle is a godsend when negotiating narrow woodland tracks with a farm trailer. Also, the rising and lowering suspension makes putting trailers on the tow hitch far easier. Getting stuck in the mud in the UK is seldom life threatening except for emergency services, but it is a nuisance to have to get the tractor out. So RR's save a lot of time and hassle, and they can also double up as a great motorway cruiser and are fine in town too which saves having to buy a second car. In the UK there is always a Landrover specialist nearby to fix things within a few hours, so the reliability issue is minor. Lastly cost. Excellent secondhand diesel RR Sports are plentiful and cheap as chips in the UK, making them perhaps the most economical and capable 4WD farm transport. This is why most UK country folk have some sort of Landrover.
Finally, someone on RUclips talking sense about Rangies. I love full fat Land Cruisers to bits but the Range Rover is perfectly designed for the UK (although the amount of theft is frankly ridiculous).
Rangies are more common because they are local. The LC is still better on most of those surfaces you stated. Tires matter a lot for that basic soccer mom stuff
My dad and uncle were working in Siberia from 1992. First car was a Land Rover defender. It just refused to start at 45 degrees negative. Then was something American, if my memory serves me well. That crap broke down even faster. Then it was a land cruiser from 1998. That car was running and driving almost 20 years. Has over 1m km on its odometer. Never gave us hard time. Truly, it’s an AK-47 in the realm of cars
A million kilos?! That's insane! 😱
@@thabisomatime906 you won’t believe it. Spark plugs changed at 200k. Oil changed at 50k km. Mechanic was shocked. It was molasses consistency and color. Got major job like transmission fluid change, filters etc at 500k km. Not because nobody cared about the car. It’s just was too far. Nearest mechanic was over 350 km away, and Toyota dealership with proper service was it city of Tyumen, approximately 1000 km away.
Bro the defender can't start up at 45 angle 🤦 that's the only drawback of it due to having a old school engine the petrol can't pass upwards.
Other than that, it always is better than lc ever
@@mahir6239 it was a joke, right?) I mean -45 degrees Celsius)
@@ignotus9085 oh ,thats other matter, i was taking about another problem which I think lc also has,
At -45 celcius I can't say anything coz I wasn't there but we're you sure both were petrol and not disel? Coz disel doesn't start in cold
You can't compare an old Land cruiser with a new Range rover
The cruiser can do this challenge everyday for 10 years without breaking trust me. The rover will do it for 1month and then engine light will appear trust me.
Range Rover is driven by someone who wants one, Land Cruiser by someone who needs one
So true.
Toyota Land Cruiser always be the King of the hill ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Comparing a car from 2008-2013 is kind of unfair
@itsshamsi that's exactly what I wanted to say why use and old generation Land Cruiser against a new generation Range Rover that's not realistic at all
Anyway Toyota didn't change anything till now lok
Oh shut up. Do your own videos or just enjoy this one.
Was the RSQ8 VS Duster fair? No, was it fun ? Hell yeah.
It's because the new Land cruiser isn't being sold in the UK so he literally had to use the old one or not make the video at all
Having owned a FJ80 4.2 TD Landcruiser and currently a Range Rover, The LC was slightly better off road, the electronics help in the RR and having 3 locking diffs on the LC really made it a very capable off roader. My current RR has centre and rear diff locks and coupled with the traction control for the front wheels make off-roading effortless, where the LC you had to take a lot more care with how you drove it. Most weekends you could find me up top of the Pennines in the LC.
Let me say this. The Land cruiser is a tough car made for tough roads. However, the driver of the Land cruiser willingly and knowingly made the mistakes which brought the points low. So blame the driver for his poor driving and not the Land cruiser!!!
Agree. He talked alot
Dude. Seriously. Get over it. It’s just for fun. I suppose you think the low profile tyres on the Range Rover help it ? The Rangie has amazing tech. It’s a huge help. The ride being IFS and IRS suspension will mean it will handle better on bumps and cornering. That being said. Would I take a Range Rover on a serious expedition ? Hhhmmm. I think not. While they are clearly a more refined vehicle I wouldn’t trust it like a Landcruiser. My 2 cents is. The range is far superior but if reliability is what you’re after I’d go the cruiser with twin lockers every day.
The tech is exactly what rural remote and outback owners hate, too much to go wrong and too few service agents to repair them.
Also few 4wd here in Oz aren't modified with local upgrades including appropriate tyres and suspension lifts/upgrades.
The tech is exactly what rural remote and outback owners hate, too much to go wrong and too few service agents to repair them.
Also few 4wd here in Oz aren't modified with local upgrades including appropriate tyres and suspension lifts/upgrades.
NEITHER of these two guys have got a clue about driving 4x4's.
I'd have the old Land Cruiser. Amazing 4 wheel drive car.
The Ranger is just better off-road
@@MrCosmin94 ya like for 4 times more the price
@@hussainsetranjiwala402 and 4 times the maintenance costs lol
@@MrCosmin94 its more capable stock but less reliable AND you can mod the crap out of the land cruiser to be just as capable
@@vanderz1012 yep. Each maintaineance cost $50000.
The rear wheel steering on the range rover, made it go around that corner that easy. That thing is long lol
That's what she said.
@@aabidamn abidamn, i bet the rear wheel drive on range rover is epic.
he should have tried turn assist on the land cruiser, it can tighten the corner even more
Lc200 have a turn assist it locks up the rear inner wheel when turning
hi. can you guys do the toyota land cruiser vs nissan patrol off road test please?
Add also Escort 1.8 GTi and 330i.
@@purwantiallan5089 but they are sedans
The Toyota will never break down and it will go for years and years, and it's so much cheaper. Enough said.
Well everything will be reliable if we maintain it correctly 😊
Mat finally got his hands on a V8 LC. What can’t he do?
You know those are super common in the UK
@@GreenTheScreen123 no they're not. They need to be imported from Japan. The Prado and old v8s are fairly common but since the 2000s the v8s have become rarer and rarer in the UK
@@TheFlyingClutchman you clearly don't do your research they're also manufactured in China which then are shipped off to the UK and that includes V8 200 series because I'll tell you now I go trailing every single weekend and I see at least 5 to 10 per day most of the time they're completely different well not being directly sold in the UK from Toyota dealerships they are bought from China and shipped to the UK so you don't need to go through all that BS of shipping stuff through Japan all I know is you really got to do your research buddy
@@TheFlyingClutchman i bet so. Wish we could see an offroad battle between BTR4 vs Mini Rover 1.3 Euro Edition.
@@GreenTheScreen123 this Land Cruiser from Toyota appears pale compared to even Mini Rover 1.3 Euro.
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Breaking down every hour vs breaking down once in a century
Don't be so cruel to the overhyped LC.
Do the same off road tests for 1 week with those two cars exactly , I want to see something
I bet Jaguar wont like the results.
Both very serious off-roaders however the versatility of the Toyota definitely gives it extra points in my eyes
The Range Rover is really bad lol, just because its a really expensive 4x4 SUV clearly doesn't make it a off-offroader, the range rover is too short and heavy to do well in off-roading, the places they test off-roading you can go to with a trabant.
It's difficult the cum shot has already fallen
@@Burago2k 1. The shorter the car is, it is better off - road.
2. This Land Cruiser weighs 100kg more than the Range Rover.
Would take the landcruiser every time. Owned a 99 4.7 v8 and it was unbelievably competent in all environments
For hardcore off-roading I would take LC without hesitating.
But it lost the off-road challenge lol. Unless you mean because it's cheap and it doesn't matter if it gets damaged
@@ethanb4ughan The Land Cruiser will still be reliable after many years.
@@hakim1138 and like I said... There's no evidence that the NEW Range Rover won't be reliable
@@hakim1138 not it won't 🤡🤡🤡
@@egorikem support your claim with evidence from the text
Maybe all offroader vehicles can take you offroading but toyota makes sure that it drives you home safe and without any damage
Almost nothing but V8 Land Cruisers here in Qatar. Definitely the number 1 vehicle over here.
Fellow Qatar immigrant citizen here, 100% true
Love em
Matt! You should’ve put the cruiser on crawl control mode, that limits the speed to 1-3km/hr.
If I remember correctly the first model year V8 diesel did not have crawl. The diesel version got crawl control later.
This version doesn't have dac crawl control
Land Cruiser is the King of the Road. Love you Matt for bringing it here.
Range Rover is a luxurious Car but still best offroader, love to see it.
"If you want to go to the jungle, get a Land Rover. If you want to go to the jungle and come back home again, get a Land Cruiser."
-Aristotle
Usual repeated stupid comment
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"If the Land Cruiser gets stuck, tow it with a Land Rover"
-Einstein
@@TheBlueVaron "Land Rover: Turning owners into mechanics since 1948"
-Queen Elizabeth II
@@aabidamn "I cant afford a range rover, i will throw shit on it on RUclips comments then"
-abidamn
Interesting. With many years in Africa, away from towns, I'm used to using 'various Toyota products', so perhaps nice to see just how competent the RR really was.
Good point was to consider how it would fare 'in the real world', for months at a time ....
Al.
Alan Toms, wish we could see an offroad battle between RUF BTR4 vs Nissan PICKUP.
It's a 2008 v 2022 though, so not quite fair.
@@1Dustin I know which I'd rather be in in a 10-20 hour hammer through the African bush ..... not the RR !!
It wouldn't. We all know that.
You would not want to be in the RR in Africa, just for the wrong attention it would attract...
Loved my 200 series V8. Unstoppable. Awesome engine. And will actually keep going. 350,000 fault free kms
2023 Range Rover vs. 2008 Land Cruiser. And I’d take the LC all day - slight lift and it would have won.
truth be told, the RR has been outstanding, but if you want to go around the world… I think the solid choice is the LC
lmao Range Rover was literally the first car to travel across multiple continents in one trip
@@senjuguy With roughly 80 maintenance stops wasnt it?
Legend says that, when two Range Rovers meet each other, one is coming from the service and the other is going to the service.
This is interesting
Did anyone notice 4:55 “Planet Charity” LENDS a £138,000 Range Rover😂😂😂
I was curious why a charity needed a £130,000 Jeep🤔
I did, was just about to comment the same but thought I'd come across as a twat, makes you think where the money goes to these charities, obviously the CEOs car with the private plate
In Australia. If you want too drive into the Outback, take a Landrover....if you want to come back...take a Toyota!! Lol.
Yeah, my unpopular opinion probably is that the Land Cruiser looked amazing in that color scheme paired with those wheels. Looked so clean too. Love it!
One important point: Land Cruiser will run up to 1 million miles and won't break down The Range Rover will be in the shop every 2 weeks.
👍 Quality Respect to Japanese people honest and truthful hard work people's, having Such a trustworthy company's 👏🇯🇵❤️ Toyota Land or Lexis
Mine only went in the “shop” for routine servicing.
Finally seeing an actual Land Cruiser doing the off road challenge
You won't see too many Range Rovers in the outback, they'll be back in the dealerships with the mechanic working overtime....
points should have been awarded for reliability
Hi Matt, enjoyed seeing the 4 by 4 joust between these two cars. Would be interesting to explore further; such as how each model/engine system copes with varying qualities of fuel, how easy are they to get competently serviced around the globe. Targeting the luxury market with a high spec system that on paper performs very well, a high performance engine that is very sensitive to varying fuel quality, dependent upon top notch servicing, good traction control but how well do they do in the real world. One of these car manufacturers made (sadly in my view) a decision a while ago to focus on the high end market share at the expense of the broader market with more mass appeal. The result; around the world and outside of modern cities of the developed world, one of these makes is much easier to maintain and readily repair than the other one. And when you're remote or in the middle of the desert you have enough to worry about as it is. London to Cape Town, now that would put them through their paces?
That range rover in that colour looks absolutely gorgeous 😍
No one cannot beat the land cruiser ❤
They should've done a final test: which one can last 5 years without breaking down?
Will wait for your next video in a few years 🙂
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Lol... The Land Cruiser is more than 10 years already (2008 Model) while the Range Rover is the latest model...
There are 10 year old Discoverys that have about 200k miles but never broke down. Not sure about the Range Rover but as I know never models are reliable.
@@rmsolympic438 I actually have heard that Discoveys aren't much of a problem. It's just Range Rover..
@@luceatlux About the Range Rovers - you are probably right... A Range Rover is the first association for unreliability 😅
Doing the challenge with the latest land cruiser would have been a fair challenge though
I think you should make the comparison with at least the same tires... they are really important on off-road
Agree Marcello, but he doesnt want to spend money,just make it, from idiots like us that click it.
That height control which won the range the challenge won’t be in operating condition in 2-3 yrs time 😘😝
Pretty good from the Range Rover bearing in mind it’s on normal road tyres.
Own them both. A 2017 LC and new rangie.
LC is still the real deal. RR already been to the shop twice. Sigh 😢somethings never change.
LC stellar as ever and escalating in price in the USA monthly ❤
I've owned both these identical cars and the RR is junk in comparison. Also I think Matt fudges these offroad vids as the RR I just got rid off last year couldn't even get down the same routes as my old Grand Vitara could around 2006-2008. It's already been well proven that LC are better offroad buy Matt is happy to shill out to LR he's done it before too.
@@bigduphusaj162 .. No you haven't ....
@@nigelstarkey9399 OK I haven't.. bye Nige 👋
Without a doubt I am impressed with the Range, since it has low profile - all season tires. Of course, the land cruiser will go the distance and if there is anything wrong it will be easily fixable (it is repair friendly).
But RR has better drive system but not so much better as to change my mind.
@@christiaanliebenberg5645 I do my own maintenance and repair whenever possible on my LR3. Tens of videos on DIY right here on RUclips. It saves me $185 an hour my mechanic (technician) charges me because he's got a lift and I don't. How come there are no Rent-a-Lift businesses for vehicles?
The choice between a Toyota Land Cruiser and a Land Rover depends on various factors, including personal preferences, specific needs, and usage requirements. Both vehicles are renowned for their off-road capabilities and have their own distinct features. Here are some points to consider:
Toyota Land Cruiser:
Reliability: Toyota vehicles, including the Land Cruiser, have a reputation for being incredibly reliable and durable.
Off-road performance: The Land Cruiser is known for its exceptional off-road capabilities, with advanced features like a robust four-wheel-drive system, solid axle suspension, and excellent ground clearance.
Resale value: Land Cruisers tend to retain their value well over time, making them a good investment.
Land Rover:
Luxury and refinement: Land Rovers, particularly models like the Range Rover, offer luxurious interiors, premium materials, and advanced comfort features.
Off-road prowess: Land Rovers have a strong off-road heritage and are equipped with sophisticated technologies, such as Terrain Response systems, which optimize the vehicle's performance on different surfaces.
Styling: Land Rover vehicles often feature distinctive and eye-catching designs, combining elegance and ruggedness.
Ultimately, the "better" choice depends on your priorities. If you prioritize reliability and durability, the Land Cruiser may be a suitable option. If you value luxury, refinement, and advanced technology, a Land Rover might be more appealing. It's advisable to test drive both vehicles, research their features, and consider your specific needs before making a decision.
AWESOME OFF ROADING !
WOW, well done to the Rangerover 😯😉😁
I was SURPRISED 🧐😳😬
AWESOME WORK !!!
as nice as that Range is I would personally go for the Land Cruiser. Mostly because I've never knew they had a diesel option, wish we got these in the states. That thing is BADASS!
I dunno, for the limited offroad stuff I'd se either for the LC is a hair shirt compared to a silk shirt.
@@skylined5534 the new lc300 comes with a diesel too. But the new range rover d350 is superior with 346 hp n 700 nm which can return a mileage of average 34-38. One guy in youtube got 41mpg🤣
@@gribberyt3923 Superior,lol your funny,it will spend most of it's time on a tow truck...
@@geoffbell166 it depends. If those who lease it will have this problem since that suv requires regular maintenance a lot can go wrong if delayed. Have atleast 40-50k for maintenance and you will be good to go for the next 5-7 years or so. N experience will be something land cruiser can never match. But again if you dont have extra 50k reserved then do not buy it. If you plan not to get it regularly it will. Lc is for longevity with less dollars and rover is for extreme everything including offroad capability and extremely good even better than a rolls royce cullinan sound system(option 29 speaker or 35 on the new one). Name me a car of that caliber returning a mileage of 34mpg. Also l405 has a range of 1400+km on a single fill (104 capacity x 14.4kmpl)
I'd take the land cruiser everytime, rangerover looks good and is higher tech but if you want to stay going it's got to be the land cruiser.
1979 my father got the first Land Cruiser, in Tanzania.
I've had one or a Hilux ever since. On my 5th cruiser now. Can't even think of changing. If it's in an expensive country, I travel a lot, I just get a Hilux otherwise a cruiser. My current one is 5.7 V8 Cruiser, that's going to really give this RR a tough time if Matt used it.
Will take that cruiser every day of the week
No
Would have loved to see the 2nd gen LC200 considering It's the one most people buy or consider
LC200 not gonna rival Range Rover still.
@@purwantiallan5089 the range rover is gonna be broken down earlier doe
@@purwantiallan5089 Obviously it wouldn't perform as well as a Range Rover I'm saying i would have loved to see the 2nd gen instead of the 1st gen LC 200
@@purwantiallan5089 Purwanti, what we're saying is, your Range Rover is shit.
@@erensfeet5563
It's not *though.*
Owned a RR once. Excellent cars to drive when they're working, which is very rarely. Overall, RR's are amazing unreliable monet pits.
you owned nothing
Toyota with a diesel at that price would be very appealing... Range Rover/Land Rovers are amazing off road. Reliability is always suspect. A G-wagon would be fun in this also. Lockers always for rough road!!!
Owning a vehicle as such reliability is a big issue!
I can’t take a chance in the middle of a forest with a Range Rover
Matt, you just got a taste of how we feel when you make us wait for a drag race with all the stats and info you give before the race.
What I want to know is why "Planets Charity" owns a $140,000 Range Rover?! Did They Use Some Donations Towards a Ridiculous Expensive Vehicle??? Lmao!!
And the LR did it all with all season tires!!!! 🙌🙌🙌
The most important criteria is quality and reliability.
Which neither have got because that Toyota's got the 4.5 diesel V8 which is known for throwing rods and nuking head gaskets
@@GreenTheScreen123 only in third world countries where the diesel quality is not good. otherwise its a good engine
Why aren’t you using the 300 series Landcruiser? That’s the appropriate comparison to the new RR. That old 200 series is a much older platform
Do your research they're not being sold in the UK / Western Europe he would literally have to go to Russia to get one
Why aren’t they using like for like tyres is a more relevant question
sadly because they are not sell the 300 in the UK
@@GreenTheScreen123 so why do the comparison. Waste of time
@@craigsommerville2300 because it's fun something you never heard of 🤡
It’s not fair that’s a old model of the Land Cruiser
I remember doing a stint in Oman back in the 80's. We were clunking around in Pink Panther Landrovers. Oman SF who could afford whatever they liked, were playing in Land cruisers. Rovers were pants if I'm honest. It was common knowledge for many years that L/Rover saw the MOD as a massive cash cow and never bothered updating or refining their vehicles, as the contract was a sure thing. Finally, someone with a set of balls decided to give Pinz Gauer a shot. Multi-platform, multi terrain vehicles. Kicked the arse out of the Rovers. Nuff said.
That's a stock 2008 200 series. 13 year difference. How much is a 2008 rangerover now?
Nobody buy the RR for resale valve. Its a fun machine to drive that's it.
Nobody's going to buy them anyway because any range Rover from the year 2005 to 2012 for the most unreliable electrically faulty pieces of crap ever to be put on the road
You can buy a 2008 Range Rover for as little as £3500 🤣
I think if you want a fair review, you need to review the new LC300 against it. Still, an old LC like that is still very competitive
Not sold in the UK
@@mediocreman2 Not sold in the uk yes we know as matt said but still would be a better comparison if he found one in the uk cuz this video comparison wasnt much of a comparison
Indeed plus there are a few vehicles in his reviews that not sold in the UK
By all means, I’m surprised the Range was even competitive to the old LC to begin with. So it deserves some credit
But this comparison is basically 2008 vs 2023
Bro who puts a rear locker on with out puting a front on too we all know no one is going to put an extra locker on a range rover, its actually more common to see land cruisers with full locking diffs making it better
Such a good program thank you! The Old Land Cruiser looks like an early 1990's vehicle, it looks like a Japanese vehicle from prior to Japan went into its lost, now coming up to 4 decades. The "Landie" as we call it here in New Zealand is still a Legend! The name "Landie" was once owned by Land Rover for 2-3 Decades and then the Great Brand Toyota took over the affectionate name "Landie" and showcased brilliant Japanese Engineering at its best!
It was great in the Southern Alps, McKenzie Country, getting up to the Ski fields, bush tracks hunting etc but it has become too expensive, both these vehicles have been replaced here in New Zealand by the Ford Ranger. Now we can buy 3 Ford Rangers for the price of a Toyota Landcruiser and yes the Ford Ranger is reliable as its Toyota!
There is nothing like the original Jeep, and then the Aluminum Land Rover. On Farms in NZ, when the Land Rover's engine crapped out as it did relatively early in its life Cockies (Farmers) here would drop in a GM Holden, or Ford Straight Six Engine and the old beast would go on forever, many are still going and valued on Farms.
Japan is now an expensive place to make things, but its Brands always stand for Quality. Toyota will come back as long as Japan only makes top Quality Products which I expect them to do!
Ford trucks are good, but Toyota is much better. Especially here in the United States where they're driving much closer to the million mile mark. I sold my Tundra with just over 250k miles and I only ever replaced the alternater. Hopefully the Ranger holds up to the test if time.
@@therednsx Thats weird the latest stats show Ford as the most sought after vehicle in the states especialy the F150 which outsells every flippin thing
the range rover is an absolute work of art this thing is wonderfully designed.
and hopeless reliability
@@darrengoodale6854 thats a myth
Lol oh really read any reliability report
@@darrengoodale6854 mine of my range rover sport never had anything, thats my proof. Not from an american web fully sponsored by the competition with fake reports and accounts from the internet. Thats called fake news, you learned something new today.
I'm not in the us and I've been in the car job for yrs but I'm sure you no far more than me🙄
The smile of darren is like a child. It is priceless. I really enjoy that moment.
13:59 time line
The difference being, the Land Cruiser could do all that and much more, all day, every day, for the next 20 years. The Range Rover ...not so much ;)
6:55 129066 miles on the LC200, I wonder in the same 120k miles how many times that Range Rover will be in a workshop awaiting repairs, monthly maybe 🤣🤣
While that Cruiser probably had only oil changes and brake pads done, and it's maybe on its original rotors, at least at the back. It's literally brand new at 130k miles.
While 130k on that Range would probably be it's death after a few transmissions, a dozen modules and motors, and maybe an engine or two.
it's a fact that Toyota did made reliable car, that is why Saudi buy so many Landcruiser more that buying Range Rover. I have watch some video about Landcruiser owner is Saudi and they really tell that Toyota are better in reliability even better than Nissan Patrol
This is obvoiusly just "very light" off-roading. 'Coz the conditions you've tackled here is just like the driveway on our farm from the mainroad to the residence. 😁😁
I would never take that Range Rover off-road, it's just so beautiful.
I suspect you’re never going to have to worry about this
Comparing 2010 Land Cruiser with 2022 Range Rover /:
It is disappointing that a lot of comparisons do not compare like with like. Vehicles should have similar tyres etc and both have the same locking differential. I know this may make the comparison costly but I think it would be more interesting.
Hmm...pretty sure by visuals alone, one is luxury vehicle and they other is an under dog. Why not run them head on and the same speed and see which still drives away. Then turn the 2 over and drop them on their and see if the driver and passengers arn't crushed.
A serious comparison is kind of pointless. If you want a car to show off to your yuppie friends get the Range Rover. For everything else the LandCruiser is superior. Theres a reason why you never see Range Rovers doing 4WD.
Comparing the RR to the LC is wrong to begin with. A better comparison would be the LC to a Disco.
@@LabiaLicker I think the reason you dont see range rovers doing 4wd is more because of the cost of the things, if money didnt matter I would take the range rover as in lots of test videos it genuinely seems more capable, but in the real world I would take the land cruiser
Watch suv battle channel the real offroad channel, and the range won over the lc there as well, I'm taking about new and old both lc
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Imagine that 22year old LC is having a match with a 2022 LR 😅
And still 22 years ago that lc was beat up by a range rover 🤣
@@mahir6239 But where is that 22year old range rover now 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@Sunburnae92 22 years range rover can easily seen on road, they may have a few problems but most problems are from those which doesn't even exist in lc
Range rover is king as always 😎😎😎
The Range Rover would be the quickest back to the dealership and has the reliability of a market stall Rolex.