KJ literally said human trafficking doesn't happen. I used to kinda like her and watch her but one day she was talking about sister wives and she got something wrong I was really nice not rude at all and corrected her and got ate alive in the chat for it! By that point I had started to raise how shady she was and not watched her since. This is such a great video I know the whole situation but still watched this to the end 😂 really great job
Jenn Jones Somebody on her chat told her to be careful about harassing and putting her alleged attackers family’s business names out there because she never press charges against him and he says it was a consensual one night stand and she said she was raped but no charges were filed so the sub said to be careful and her other subs picked apart this sub like a pariah and some of us came to this girls defense and all she was saying to Katie was just be careful that they don’t sue you for slander and nothing else.
@@aaf1548 it just seems like she thinks she knows what's best and her way is the right way. That's pretty messed up someone trying to help her and it ends up being all that.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....................LOL! Ive been looking for the START of all this nonsense, lol, for the last 4 hours. I never liked this girl, I saw ONE video of hers last yr or so and sje just didnt hit it for me, IDK, I cant put it into words. I just didnt like her. THen I started seeing people make vids on her, not good ones and I thought OH GOOD, I wasnt the ONLY one that saw this...and I didnt really watch bc I already knew I didnt like the girl. Fast forward to now, Jan 2021, and I KEEP seeing negative vids, updates to those vids and like 3, 4, and 6 part-ers about how awful she is, lol! Sooooo, Naturally, Im curious! WTF did homegirl do to make so people despise her??? Like ya, she is off putting, but to make 3 part expose on her....SOMETHING happened! But most vids start by rattling off this name that name and what this one did that one did, etc and Im like OK, BUT WHERE DID THIS ALL START?!?!?!!! SOOO THANK YOU for starting from the BEGINNING! Lol! Subd for sure! Im hoping your chnl is one that goes into something from the start on ALL your vids!
Agreed! I knew there was drama, but didn’t know what. And lately WOTACB seem bitchy and stuck up. Her report on Stand with Sophia pissed me off. It was a money grab.
I subscribed to her for a month or two after the Stauffer's put their video out. I tried to stay subscribed but noticed in numerous videos she put blatantly incorrect info out and acts like it's pure fact. And she cops a major attitude when people tell her it's wrong. She has a personality I just can't mesh with and had to unsubscribe, I couldn't handle it anymore.
Exactly. I also subscribed, but after a few videos where she was actually inaccurate or dishonest & how she responded to anyone either kindly or honestly addressing it, I just had to unsubscribe. I don’t mind when you get things wrong. I still subscribe to channels where they put out inaccurate information or information that was only half accurate. When subscribers pointed it out, their response to that was actually what kept me subscribed. Their ability to just apologize, correct their mistake and then try harder to not put out information until they knew more information to avoid being inaccurate again was the key for me to remain a subscriber. I don’t care if you make a mistake, it’s more about how you address the mistake once it’s pointed out to you. She has been truly horrible to some other channels that have pointed out mistakes, even if they were being kind about it, she got nasty. I just can’t stand the vitriol she puts out when anyone calls her mistakes out.
One content creator said she purposely gave Katie the wrong information to see if she would research it or run with it and of course she ran with it. It was regarding the Duggers with homeland security, that was planted story as far as them going after Josh alone
This video is 3 years old, and it's hilarious watching it in 2023 because Katie has ONLY gotten WORSE since then. How she still has a platform is beyond me!!! This is a was a great video BTW! Don't know how I missed it back then, but great job! Would be interesting if you did a current follow up on Katie!
I've had my own dealings with Karen Joy. From where I sit, she is without any scruples and void of any semblance of decency. She also imagines that she is an investigative journalist and that she's on the level of TMZ and other such gossip platforms. Her reporting "style" is to regurgitate other peoples' stories and monetize them. A REAL journalist does his/her homework, is unbiased, and reports on various subjects and topics after doing their due diligence in obtaining the FACTS. A journalist allows the reader/listener to draw their own conclusions. However, in her rush to be first with the story, she misses important steps...for instance, being ACCURATE in the details she provides. People have even fed her false stories to trip her up...and she went ahead and rushed to bring her "scoop" without checking the facts. She looked foolish in the process, of course...but would she learn from this? NO! She just deletes her own videos, which has hurt her credibility drastically. She is taking a beating at the moment for the whole "trauma is not tea" outcry after her horrible bludgeoning of the Stand With Sophie story. I find it very suspect that she is now bringing her own story of personal victimization, and in my opinion, it appears as if she went public with this in order to deflect the attention off of her terrible gaffe and garner sympathy. To me, it's so obvious! As her platform is not very big, eventually, she will cross the wrong person and she will be canceled. In a way, she is her own worst enemy and is working to cancel herself.
I agree- her desire to be the first to report is detrimental to her credibility. No one will get everything right at all times but it’s important to correct the mistakes and do better instead of deleting or doubling down.
I just scrolled past the video about her "story" ... WOW!! I won't watch, nope. It is beyond clear this is a deflection tactic. I mean, how can you hold a SE victim accountable of profiting on a childs SE story and saying things insensitive and disgusting about another 10 YEAR OLD SE victim when it's now been erased and is clearly a just a misunderstanding. I mean SHE'S A VICTIM TOO...🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@kathleenweppler7928 My calling her "Karen Joy" was fully intentional. Just like she can't get BXBeastBoy's name right, and regularly insults him...I choose to call her "Karen Joy" -- which is my commentary on her horrific behavior and childish temper tantrums. But thanks for buzzing in!
lmao stop i commented that she reminded me of shallon lester on another video about her!! the way they make crazy shit up about people then backtrack but only make things so much worse for themselves is just a standard trait for this type of youtuber
Not even SL level. Her first big story was the nutbag Schofield family and she "researched" it by going on Kiwi Farms and asking them to fill her in. Didn't even read the thread, just wanted a bullet-point precis because Katie is big researcher. Only she forgot to research Kiwi Farms. And it's why she's so circumspect when she mentions them because they turned the spotlight round right back at her and eviscerated her. She's no investigative journalist and her writing is infantile, shockingly bad. KFers are shitheels but it can be funny watching them tear someone apart for stealing their research to promote an inflated, grandiose ego.
I was subscribed to her for a little over a year. I got so sick of hearing her complain about the drama she was in because of situations she instigated. It's sad that it took that long for me to bite the bullet, but I'm SO glad I removed myself from the toxicity of the community she has built.
Me too Hannah! I was following her far toooo long and it was just negative negative drama drama all day looooong...I left finally and I am not surprised at all at where she is headed...she is the cause of her own downfall now that it’s happening
@@erinntay I am not surprised at all either. All we can do now is hope that a good majority of those still supporting her will leave. From what I'm seeing now, it looks like that happen sooner or later. Maybe if she was a little nicer to those who help you make this your job, things wouldn't be so terrible for you, Katie. Who are we though, right?
Hannah Laudo Exxxxactly! Perfect example of “forgetting where she came from and WHO helped make her”....she will be the cause of her own channel’s demise eventually for sure
I'm so glad you're covering Katie.. it just seems like she is out of control. I was a genuine fan but I noticed her very self absorbed behaviour after a few months.. Katie is just a really horrible person which is harsh words but she just is. She makes up so many lies, manipulates her fans and plays the victim constantly. I just can't stand her tbh
She was assaulted! You are just being mean at this point. She's is friends with Melissa from dance mom's. Also with Todd Chrisley's daughter. If you never been a victim of a r**p then you can't speak for victim who has!
@@Pineyapplecent Just because one has been assaulted (which I & *many* of her WOACB's critics have) does *not* mean *they* can speak for *anyone* else, let alone a 9yr old *child* Being a survivor *also* does *not* give one *any* excuse for "being mean" or other *patterns* of problematic behavior, *nor* does it exempt them from criticism Like many of Katie Joy Paulson's "defenders" (including KJ herself) on many videos about her it seems you did *not* actually watch before commenting 😶 The creator was not "mean" towards Without A Crystal Ball & even included an admitted troll with a proven history of misrepresentation that "defends" KJ by attacking others as a source What evidence besides KJP's unsubstantiated claims do you have she's still "friends" with LC? WOACB doesn't seem to maintain "friendships" long & has had *several* rather public "endings" including, but not limited to: Steve McRae (who she pursued, repeatedly said she "loved" then claimed "never liked him" & made baseless criminal accusations for 3mo until realised she actually was in danger of being sued - she struck the copy of her retraction he mirrored to his channel without warning & in less than 24hrs BTW - & a yr later was continuing with questionable SH claims that not only repeatedly changed but were disavowed by multiple people) Leslie Bass (The frenemy drama that never ends! Their 1st "interaction" was KJ calling LB "disgusting" over a video WOACB admittedly hadn't even watched & her criticism - not only of what the video was about but the person KJ was "defending" - was factually incorrect. They went back & forth with KJ publicly patronising LB & exploiting her misfortunes) Matt Baeir (1 phone call was all it took for KJ to go from calling Amber Portwood's ex "irrelevant" to "not at all how he's portrayed" & she gushed over "Matty" until LB "tried to swoop in" & "steal" him. Then instead of repeated his unsubstantiated claims without verifying them - like "Viacom *Fires* AP" which she seemingly misrepresented & milked - he was "sexually harassing" her viewers & perhaps most ironically "using [KJ] for clout" 😂) Sharrell's World (KJ said she was "fangirling" when SW offered to collaborate, repeatedly praised her & gave her "shout outs" but when SW looked into why she lost *hundreds* of subs & got *overwhelmingly* negative comments on their video KJ & her "friend" Jason started defaming her, threatened lawsuits & apparently tried to doxx her) Suzanne of No Longer Quivvering (KJ's former Duggar "source" she kept misrepresenting, colleague at Patheos - who has been with the company for a *decade* & only seen one other time someone had all mention scrubbed from the site as happened to WOACB one other time - & "friend" KJ referenced many times has made videos & written blog posts sharing her experiences with WOACB) Roux (Another former "source" for WOACB, this time on Jenelle from Teen Mom, that KJ not only spread negative info about when they fell out but apparently tried to "expose" her identity by sharing photos & a name for the anonymous account on multiple platforms) Even Kyle Curtis (the person who has been in a business & legal dispute with Steve for over a year) who is "buddies" with KJ again was thrown under the bus *after* Steve said KJ was "off his radar" for simply retracting her false criminal accusations even though she'd repeated them & ignored offers of objective evidence to debunk them for 3months! KJ can't even claim she was trying to save herself when she *offered* Steve "information that could help [his] case" *against* Kyle. Those are all just people KJ had ongoing periods of positive interactions with & don't include people like BXBeastBoy who tried to *help* her & she promoted his video on her only to turn around & *less* *than* *12* *hours* *later* make *false* *criminal* *accusations* against him 😬 It may be cliche, but with friends like Katie Joy Paulson who needs "enemies"?
@@Pineyapplecent what do her quasi famous "friends" have to do with anything? Does being acquaintances with D-list celebrities make her seem credible to you..? I'm confused
I started watching Katie during the Myka ordeal and watched some of her other videos for like a month. I stopped because she is just a hate channel to me. It's fine to disagree with someone but the way she does her videos is just slanderous, mean spirited, sketchy at best. Even if she had legitimate info on someone, the way she hates on people is horrific while speaking against bullying...she contradicts herself so much that it makes one question whether she's telling the truth or not. She said she was in a cult and she wasn't...she just didn't agree with it but then because of that calls it a cult. She is just annoying to me. In saying that, I really hope she doesn't get bullied or loses her income. I hope she makes it in life. I just think she ought to be authentically kind and not so fake.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with wanting someone to stop profiting from things we think are immoral... There isn't only one job on the world. She can do sth different to generate revenue, including still recording YT video but in different manner or different topics
I very agree. I also started watching during Stauffers drama and initially I was very impressed by the level of details she presented. She have a lot of additional information but managed somehow to keep them structured so it wasn't chaotic despite being a lot, and at the begging I perceived this additional information as relevant to understand why they have done such horrible thing even if it was gossipy and source not as legit as she claims... For example there is screen running via Internet that Myka was allegedly asking on socials before Huxley adoption what kind of illness looks challengig to be caregiver but it's not - on one hand it's super easy to fake things like this, on other if it is true it explains a lot, so I was very interested and invested. Then first red lamps was this consistent claims "my sources / informants told me" and Katie keeping her sources anonymous as some protected witnesses during trials but never acknowledging that she's not able to verify if this "informants" people are telling true or just lying because they like to tell shit about other people for fun during gossip... Keeping sources anonymous encourages people to gossip in bad faith IMO and also prevent viewers from verification if there is indeed real person who claim sth or maybe Katie is just making some shit up and is attempting to make her BS sounding more reliable when she says things like "people close to Stauffers told me that"... She (Katie) never addresess that but she behaves like this gossips which she repeats are 100% legit info (which is not). Final straw for me when I dropped watching Katie was when he drugged Stauffers family into that to further drag them into the mud... I think it was their parents and I was very disgusted because it was ton of judgmental BS... I personally deal with a lot of childhood trauma, so I'm allergic for people who are judging other people based on their parents (or other people close to them) behavior... We should keep people accountible for THEY actions, not by the actions of they spouse, mum or dad... I refuse to call someone "bad person, because they dad is in mafia/alcoholic" even if they cut all ties to their toxic family years ago. This is just bad, unethical thing to do IMO and big red no no, so I quickly was fed up with Katie's BS when she started slander Stauffers further family and drag they personal shit for simply more views and drama.
Thank you for talking about this! I found Katie during dramageddon 2 when she was doing some deep digging into Tati Westbrook + Tati’s family. She said Tati sent her a cease and desist so she took her videos down. I knew right away that she’s completely nuts, but sometimes I check back in to see what lunacy she’s getting up to. Such a strange woman.
I talk about this in part two! I don’t know of any other commentary channels Tati has sent legal paperwork to so her videos had to have crossed a MAJOR line.
B Haney I can’t remember all of the facts but they did. She mention things about her husband‘s business practices, she mentioned things about her family. Exposed companies that her husband ran or something like that. And the thing is James isn’t even like that in the public. We all knew he was like in the movie business and had something to do with contracts, but she just put his whole business out for anybody. Like paid for a website to get documents or something. Please do not quote me on this, because I don’t remember all the details exactly, but I know she did pay to have background checks done on them and then exposed a bunch of stuff that didn’t have anything to do with any of it. Oh and now she also says she is BFF’s with James Charles’s mom 🙄
@@BHaney tati ended up sending her 5 so now she is being sued from what I understand. I unsubscribed once she started degrading Nick snider and making fun of his addiction and talking about him being gay and hiv, etc. She's disgusting.
I subscribed to her for a while and didn't believe people who said she had been vindictive toward them. Then I realized she was ALWAYS a "victim" of someone. It started to get old. The BXBeastboy thing was the last straw. What she tried to do to him is awful. I unsubscribed as soon as I finished watching his.
Excellent video!! You have nailed the situation. KJ is a drama queen. All of her issues she brought on herself. She’s a horrible person with no morals. No boundaries.
Aelia's Manga and Book Reviews - I watched her for the H story too but found her style of reporting a bit droll and it didn’t ring genuine so I too do not watch her anymore. I was unaware of the drama surrounding her until this popped up. 🤷♀️
Katie Joy is teetering on the edge of liable and slander. She has become so ambitious and encouraged by her success that she does not do due diligence which makes much of her information untrue. Personally I also believe (in my opinion) that she is not stable in herself.
I really hope the right person sees what she has lied about on them and sues the shit out of her. She needs to go!!! What she said about sophie is beyond disgusting!!!! I think I’m going to go report every video concerning this little girl sophie. Children are off limits!!! It’s so sad and trashy that she would “report” on something concerning a child that has been SA. I think Katie is lying about her SA Bc of the backlash she got about the sophie story.
@@sexitaliana629 Some ppl just refuse to believe they can get in trouble. Her stalking and creepy paid background searches on someone’s whole family is unsettling. The delusion with this one is real! Honestly 5 cease and desist letters was being way nicer than most would have been. How many warning does one need to stop slandering ppl. Normal ppl only need 1 🤣🤣🤣 I can’t stand her. I think everything that is happening to her is well deserved. I hope others jump on board too. She is toxic
@@sexitaliana629 It’s hilarious to me that she said “My attorney said I could carry on as usual and keep making videos” I’m sure no attorney told her just keep on keeping on I don’t think you’re in quite enough trouble just yet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great summary. Some of my issues stemmed from her coverage of the Schofield kids which is going way back. Her inability to admit a mistake or create professional distance from the stories she covers are my main issues with her now.
Keeping a professional distance is very important as a commentary channel! Yes we all have biases but she needs to be aware of how they impact the info she puts out and be better about giving accurate information.
I think that’s what got a lot of people interested in her too! I even watched a few videos thinking she had great information...but that didn’t last long unfortunately
It’s funny when she talks about Teen Mom stuff and she just HAS to point out that SHE leaked Amber Portwoods abuse videos. Why not hand them to police? She’s just annoying and judgemental
Great video you explained everything so good. The Steve McCrae Katie Joy Kyle Curtis thing is so confusing to me so nice Job explaining it so well. Thanks for linking my channel I really appreciate that! 💚 look forward to Part II
I’m glad my video was helpful 😊 And thank you for all the work you put into your videos, they were so informative for the topics I’m covering in part II! 💛
She is not talking to all these people she claims to be talking to. It’s just a way to make her look like she knows what she is talking about. Every single video she posts she says she talks to people that are close to whoever she is bashing! Total BS!!
@@whoops8412 I have seen proof. In one of the myka videos she said that a former neighbor of theirs had reached out to her. Upon further investigation I discovered a comment on ytmd that had stated everything she (wocab) said. She had never been reached out too, she tried to twist her narrative to make people think she had inside sources.
This is only the third video of yours that I’ve watched. I just want to say one thing I’m very thankful for....your language. It’s clean and polite. So many times I’ll watch a video during the day with my young daughter around and have to pause it because of curse words. Thank you for that!
Thank you for this video! I have been a viewer of her for a few months (bc im a part of the fundie snark community and like to watch commentary on the duggars ect.) and as much as i hate to admit it sometimes im not a very good judge of character especially with ppl i watch and follow online. I actually only found your channel a couple weeks ago bc I was going down a Rachel Hollis rabbit hole so it feels like divine timing to me! lol anyway i appreciate your perspective a lot. (edited to add this little bit) I did sometimes feel little weird about the way she would act about certain things and she also defended Amy Duggar for saying "all lives matter" which VERY MUCH rubbed me the wrong way.
if you want factual information about the Duggars etc follow this lady. This is where Katie used to get all her information from until recently when the lady got fed up with her reporting the things she told her incorrectly. ruclips.net/channel/UC1sxuhl8r6Alld1EPlG21Owvideos
This is making so much sense right now.. I have been watching her for a while now and there’s SOMETHING about her that sends up red flags. I’ve noticed she’s super rude and off putting a lot of the times and there’s just something about her that rubs me the wrong way. I can’t put my finger on it just yet - but I’ll figure it out soon enough
Katie's confidential source is the voice in her head. When she talks her eyes dart all over the place. It makes her look like she's making things up on the fly.
B Haney unfortunately I think she’s going to see this and be the first person to cause problems. When you said that in your video I just put my head down, and was like well wait for it, it’s coming!
Beth Bryant I honestly have no idea who that guy was, I still don’t really know who he is. But he thinks he’s important. Like extremely important. I haven’t figured out why but I hope they leave it alone. It’s like stay in your kitty land over there, let these adults have their side of the Internet without all your BS
@@LoveLunaFam Who Unirock? His real name is Jason & yep he thinks he's very important & he also thinks his opinion is truth. He believes every word KJ says & never calls her out on her BS
@@TheBubblevicious Suzanne of No Longer Quiverring was a "source" WOACB used a lot seemingly in an attempt to get clout despite repeatedly misrepresenting what she said Suzanne has made video & written blog posts about her experiences with Katie Joy Paulson both personally & professionally - many are shared on my Twitter account 😉 One interesting note IMO is in her decade at Patheos, she's only seen the site scrub all mentions of one of forme author besides Without A Crystal Ball...
@@annie-woacbS Yes you are 💯 percent correct. I follow Suzanne and she's a great lady. Katie did her dirty back when they both were writing for Patheos. She basically tried to take the Duggar content from her. Which she inevitably did when she started YT. Patheos has scrubbed all trace of Katie on the website now. Suzanne said that she's only seen that happen one other time, which is very telling.
the sub r/woacb is insanely well documented on reddit, you can also check that out - it's legit all sourced from behaviour she's done / things she's said on camera, tweets, instagram posts etc that have all come straight from the horses mouth but she usually ends up deleting and the community we have is able to document her problematic behaviour v well for that reason 😌
SO excited to see AO used your clip and linked both parts of these videos in her video on Tati sueing KJ, these are the most comprehensive looks at KJ and her insanity, which will catch up people who are new to her brand of "journalism"...
two years later and she is still making videos where she is puts in misleading or outright wrong info and deletes comments that werent even criticizing her but trying to correct the wrong info but she cant handle it, it literally kills her soul for someone to say anything to her
Thanks for the background. I'm watching because she recently got herself into drama with the Preacher Boys (a podcast/RUclips who interviews victims of abuse in the Independent fundamentalist Baptist community) and having this sort of background helps make sense of this
Wow I love how you try to be so objective and see all sides of the situation in your commentary. This is the first video I’ve ever seen of your channel and I am definitely a fan now!
That copyright issue is fascinating because I watch Katie and she just described on a recent video going through a very similar situation where she got a strike and emailed the owner apologizing and asking that it be taken down. She then got essentially the same response she gave Anjelica. Karma is a bitch! Can't wait to watch the next installment. Will probably stop watching her now.
I saw that too. It was some guy from 90 day fiancé. She couldn’t believe he wouldn’t remove the strike he put on her channel. I watched her beg and then threaten him but he didn’t budge!!! All I thought was... you got yours lady....Karma 😊
@@Kristan863 Even more fascinating IMO is that WOACB tagged 3 fellow RUclipsrs about the copyright situation & not only did *all* advise Katie Joy Paulson *not* to strike but one pointed out the "show" he & Without A Crystal Ball did together read entire new stories & ridiculed them without crediting the sources 😱 Have the archived threads on my Twitter account
Good overview 👏👏👏 Between the videos I've seen of hers, and all the Response videos detailing the myriad of ways she's screwed other channels & their creators- Katie joy comes across Pompous, self-important, & Smug as Hell. & doesnt feel any Shame/Ethical obligation to be gracious or work fairly w/ others... She's out for herself and doesn't give a crap who she screws in the process. She's Shamelessly Self-interested. There's NO Honor in acting like that.
I follow Katie little. I do fine her alittle boring and do find her pulling people down alot and seems to be pleased reporting on people. You have actually explained alot to me why I see alot of back lash on her which I never really understood. Thank you coming to the point.
I've "kept track" of KJ for over a year. Her change for the WORSE has been so obvious. I thought I knew EVERYTHING about her but after watching THIS video and reading some of the more informative comments, I was shocked that it hadn't even scratch the surface of what I THOUGHT I knew. Omg!! With everything she's allegedly done, I can't believe she's still able to put this kind of content out there on top of her outrageous behavior. Time will tell how this is all going to play out but to me the END of this drama of hers seems closer everyday. 😳
In my opinion Katie only got the restraining order against Steve because he initially threatened to sue her for all of the slander she was posting on twitter regarding him collecting disability and not reporting money from the channel (which he has never received) among many other things. Her apology came after this threat. Steve did go on to say a lot of things about Katie which in my mind was warranted after her relentless postings of inaccurate details about him. We would be looking at a completely different scenario if he had gone ahead with suing her. She is a perpetual victim who seems to revel in drama. I unsubscribed after she told us all to follow her on twitter and this is where i saw the true person that she is. She is dangerous and a habitual liar with most of those lies documented and backed with evidence all over twitter and reddit. Thanks for the video, i have subscribed.
Also think it's important to consider Katie Joy Paulson's documented history of misrepresenting "threats" against her - even to authorities! Whatever one's personal feelings about Amber Portwood, even The Daily Mail called out WOACB for misrepresenting AP's "threats" & KJ's story about has *repeatedly* changed In April 2019 Without A Crystal Ball discussed what would be required to get a restraining order against someone suing her for defamation Have seen KJP seemingly attempt to lay groundwork for claims that could lead to ROs repeatedly while making false criminal accusations & threatening "legal action" She even did so against me when only had 6 followers & 5 tweets (2 had 0 to do with her) though she removed her 30min+ video, I have a copy These appear to *pervasive* & *persistent* *patterns* of *problematic* behavior IMO & there is a *lot* of objective, verifiable evidence to establish that
Straight up, I always say that if you want to know the real personality of people you watch on RUclips you should follow them on twitter. I have been disappointed more than once lol. But I’m glad you liked the video and I am so happy to have you here 💛
@@BHaney It's so strange IMO as have seen several people say they only even got Twitter because WOACB kept asking people to follow her there but when they did they were shocked & dismayed by the very different side of Katie Joy Paulson they discovered So grateful the subreddit exists as many have found it a welcoming community when they are confronted with the conflicting versions of KJ to help them sort of sort through things with people who can understand their confusion, disappointment & sadness over often feeling they have to let go of her community
I was subscribed to her for a few weeks. I unsubbed when I noticed her basically just jumping on random topics that seem profitable and several instances of her being rather rude. I saw when she was talking about angelika and yikes, so rude and snotty. Honestly I liked a few of her videos on myka, Paul and Morgan and some other extreme christians with harmful views, but the other videos are a no go for me. She gives me major fake vibes.
I watched her videos on the Stauffer’s too and thought they were pretty good! But the more I watched her the more I felt like something was off...looking into her dramas I realized something definitely was lol.
Do you know what’s funny, I used the word SNOTTY to describe her too. But I called her a snotty little bitch. But she does have that attitude! She’s just gross 🤮To her subscribers, and the people that are dumb enough to pay and join her damn channel. I don’t know why I feel so strongly about this woman! I am not a person who comments hate or negativity on videos. I don’t take RUclips to that seriously. But I don’t know, she has struck a nerve with me. Like we’re about the same age and she’s giving us 40-year-old women a really REALLY bad look! Because that’s not all of us are middle-age Karen’s who act like we know everything and are too delusional to actually see the facts when they are presented. Also have you ever seen her try to be nice? It literally looks like she is in pain when she’s trying to be nice to someone. It’s undescribable.
I quickly burned out on all of those "quantity over quality" channels. I think I was only subscribed to her for a week when all that crap with the stauffer's happened and immediately lost interest.
Late to this party but here are the two things I can’t stand about KJ: 1) She acts like she KNOWS some of these people (which to my knowledge she does not). When Jill Duggar posted a pic of herself drinking alcohol KJ was going on and on like “Jilly I’m so proud of you!” And I was like what? Are they friends? 2) When the issue with John Gosselin allegedly harming his son came up. Despite Jon’s other child completely disputing the claim (and the fact that the other child had a history of severe trauma/issues) she just jumped right on the bandwagon of accusation! She made so much content off supporting Jon, showing Jons return to the public eye, etc. and at the first sign of something slightly amiss she does a complete 180. Now of course we need to always, always take child abuse cases seriously but to make a drama commentary about it felt ultra slimy and weird to me
I am a new subscriber and I do notice how often she trips on her own words or speaks incorrectly. I didn’t mind it until she make a remark about Jenelle Evans misspeaking. Pot meet kettle.
thank you for this iv tried to watch her videos a few times during the whole amber thing but can’t last longer than a few minutes , her voice really annoys my happiness , glad i found this ❤️much love from the uk 🇬🇧
Oh my goodness. I’m dying. I followed her WAY back when she first started her RUclips channel when she talked about medical issues, I was on maternity leave as a first time mom and I was SO BORED. I loved that she covered content about mother’s medically abusing their kids and some other interesting stuff. She seemed like she really cared about it and advocating for people. I would watch and participate in her live videos and enjoyed the community. It was odd because she slowly started covering more reality star stuff which is 100% nothing I give a shit about. I watched less and then went back to work from maternity leave and forgot about her. Stumbled across all this weird drama and now I find myself sucked in for some strange reason. It’s so weird how her channel is a tea channel now and lives in this weird sphere. It’s a trip! Thanks for the low-down on it for someone on the WAAAAY outside.
I vaguely remembered hearing something about her but she’s been popping up in my recommended a lot lately so I looked it up and your video was SUPER helpful
Judges typically issue ex parte orders to air on the side of caution. It’s basically an emergency order to keep the plaintiff safe. Steve’s trial date 20 days later was his chance to defend himself and I’m glad he did. Obviously the judge saw no merit in her request. This woman is dangerous.
To get a restraining order that has no evidence being heard in front of a judge is called a pros say restraining order meaning it is a restraining order without seeing any evidence yet said in a court date for the defendant or the respondent to be able to reply and have enough time to show up to court and have their say. Then what happens is if the judge thinks the applicant has enough evidence then they Grant the restraining order and that as called an ex parte restraining order after judgment. About 95% of the time a restraining order is not granted unless actual physical proof is brought before the court. I know this from personal experience.
Very nice video 😊 I appreciate that you obviously looked at several sides, even if those sources are on opposite sides an have various different views about alot of this. The Non Seq issue is still up for debate, as is the NDA between KJ an SM .. I look forward to a part 2 😊
You are coming off like 60 minutes versus the Geraldo show. Job well done, you just earned a new subscriber! Looking forward to see what your channel has to offer. ☮️💟 Nana
she accused me of being a fake account when I didn't agree with her. Meanwhile Im never that person that is combative on line and this is my only account across all platforms. I even invited her to come onto my private Instagram account to have a look around to see I wasn't fake, because she accused my account of being one of 15 fakes. whatever.
yo I made there two pieces of art for her son, worked hard on em, put a lot of love into em, and then didn't even get a thank you from her. true colors shown idc
Wow. That’s says a lot. She got banned from the Reddit sub about her. She couldn’t control herself. She made her own Reddit page but no one goes there.
Hello...I just started watching WOaCB, and wasn’t aware of these controversies. When she starts talking about her court case, I just fast forward. I guess I’ll have to pay closer attention. Thank you for posting this..it’s important to hear all sides of a story, and I will pay closer attention to any future shenanigans that involves KJ.
Loved this video. First time seeing your channel and will definitely be watching from now on. I was a WOACB subscriber but left because I shared your concerns regarding ‘gossip’ verses factual information. Plus her presentation style became very uncomfortable to watch. 👍
I really appreciate how reasonable and fair you were in your summation. You laid out the info in a clear and concise way and let the viewers come to their own conclusions.
Thank you for this. I subbed to her in the beginning of the year bc I needed some “nothing” to watch on RUclips and teen mom gossip was perfect for that. I also appreciated that she has a disabled kid but doesn’t exploit him, but admits that she did and then made the choice to stop bc she knew it was not okay. However, there just came a point where she rubbed me the wrong way and made me feel uncomfortable but I couldn’t pinpoint why.
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it! It’s so interesting how our guts are usually right when we have an off-feeling even if we can’t figure out exactly where it’s coming from!
I'm so excited to see the next part!! 😍 I cannot stand Katy!! I've also thought "who are these people she's sourced?! Are they even real?!" Seems too suspish that she's ALWAYS got a source 'close to the family/situation'... She isn't that known! No way she gets that many "sources"! 🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤣
KJ is way worse than I thought. Sexual harassment?! Omg. That is not SH...she needs to act like an adult. Not a 9 yr old. I hope she loses her ass in court. Karma b-otch Get her Tati.
Looking through the comments, I'm noticing a pattern that I myself experienced, as a former subscribber to Katie Joy. I was subbed to WOACB for a few months & in that time I noticed that she seemed to have beef with anyone she ever works with.. as well as her neighbors. I'm old enough to see the common denominator in Katie's drama. The BXbeastBoy & Augie mess was the final straw & I began to see her as a problematic, thin-skinned Karen. She also rubbed me wrong in how she speaks to her subs, it just felt condensending. I've been wondering about the real Steve situation ever since I realized how manipulative Katie really is.
Concerning the RO and her feeling threatened, as Dr Phil says, "The best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour". She appears to have lied and embellished before, so what's the betting she did this to obtain the RO?
My child has adhd and I can't speak to the amount of care her child requires but I have no clue how you could give a child with special needs of any kind and out w out the amount of content she does. She obsessive about people and "Tea" in general.
I agree. And I read he had 3 life threatening illness she said. And not sure it’s true. She changes the story about that. I know he has autism. I am chronically ill for years and it’s a full time job in away. Many doctors visits and hospital stays. She definitely isn’t spending enough time with him. I read she fired his nurse because she wanted her son to get out more. They were in the basement all the time with her son on the IPad. She even brought it up in a video. Unbelievable!
Also according to her she was not sexually harassed. Complementing someone else is not sexual harassment no matter how you look at it. And there was a million other things she could have said other than pointing out the porn stars boobs. The word penis is not sexual harassment and complimenting someone else is not sexual harassment. Making you feel uncomfortable is not sexual harassment. Those are two separate things.
I don’t know who the Steve guy is, but it’s funny how after the lawsuit proves Katie was backing the wrong partner, she claims she just wanted to trust her friend, but that she “knew something was off.” It’s like she will NEVER admit to being wrong or admit that she didn’t know something, even if it makes her look worse, like she’s knowingly sticking up for the wrong party. Lol.
Omg thank you for opening my eyes!!! After I seen her video over Sophie and her father Michael Long by saying he put it into his daughters head that she was sa! No way that was an act I was sa and I felt Sophie’s pain when I saw that video. This is video she could have left alone.
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KJ literally said human trafficking doesn't happen. I used to kinda like her and watch her but one day she was talking about sister wives and she got something wrong I was really nice not rude at all and corrected her and got ate alive in the chat for it! By that point I had started to raise how shady she was and not watched her since. This is such a great video I know the whole situation but still watched this to the end 😂 really great job
Jenn Jones Somebody on her chat told her to be careful about harassing and putting her alleged attackers family’s business names out there because she never press charges against him and he says it was a consensual one night stand and she said she was raped but no charges were filed so the sub said to be careful and her other subs picked apart this sub like a pariah and some of us came to this girls defense and all she was saying to Katie was just be careful that they don’t sue you for slander and nothing else.
@@aaf1548 it just seems like she thinks she knows what's best and her way is the right way. That's pretty messed up someone trying to help her and it ends up being all that.
@@aaf1548 I saw that!!
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....................LOL! Ive been looking for the START of all this nonsense, lol, for the last 4 hours. I never liked this girl, I saw ONE video of hers last yr or so and sje just didnt hit it for me, IDK, I cant put it into words. I just didnt like her. THen I started seeing people make vids on her, not good ones and I thought OH GOOD, I wasnt the ONLY one that saw this...and I didnt really watch bc I already knew I didnt like the girl.
Fast forward to now, Jan 2021, and I KEEP seeing negative vids, updates to those vids and like 3, 4, and 6 part-ers about how awful she is, lol! Sooooo, Naturally, Im curious! WTF did homegirl do to make so people despise her??? Like ya, she is off putting, but to make 3 part expose on her....SOMETHING happened! But most vids start by rattling off this name that name and what this one did that one did, etc and Im like OK, BUT WHERE DID THIS ALL START?!?!?!!!
SOOO THANK YOU for starting from the BEGINNING! Lol! Subd for sure! Im hoping your chnl is one that goes into something from the start on ALL your vids!
JUST what we need. A beginner’s guide is perfect and saves me a lot of time if I want to understand properly.
Agreed! I knew there was drama, but didn’t know what. And lately WOTACB seem bitchy and stuck up. Her report on Stand with Sophia pissed me off. It was a money grab.
Hope it helps! There is so much info to comb through 😂
B Haney 🔮 I see a series in your future, and I see it without a crystal ball, even!
@@MrsPinkyChiChi I think this would make a excellent series too
Same!
I subscribed to her for a month or two after the Stauffer's put their video out. I tried to stay subscribed but noticed in numerous videos she put blatantly incorrect info out and acts like it's pure fact. And she cops a major attitude when people tell her it's wrong. She has a personality I just can't mesh with and had to unsubscribe, I couldn't handle it anymore.
Exactly. I also subscribed, but after a few videos where she was actually inaccurate or dishonest & how she responded to anyone either kindly or honestly addressing it, I just had to unsubscribe. I don’t mind when you get things wrong. I still subscribe to channels where they put out inaccurate information or information that was only half accurate. When subscribers pointed it out, their response to that was actually what kept me subscribed. Their ability to just apologize, correct their mistake and then try harder to not put out information until they knew more information to avoid being inaccurate again was the key for me to remain a subscriber. I don’t care if you make a mistake, it’s more about how you address the mistake once it’s pointed out to you. She has been truly horrible to some other channels that have pointed out mistakes, even if they were being kind about it, she got nasty. I just can’t stand the vitriol she puts out when anyone calls her mistakes out.
Everyone makes mistakes, especially when covering current events but being able to take criticism and correct the misinformation is SO important!
I did basically the same thing! She seemed legit at first, but everything started to get sketchy really fast.
One content creator said she purposely gave Katie the wrong information to see if she would research it or run with it and of course she ran with it. It was regarding the Duggers with homeland security, that was planted story as far as them going after Josh alone
@@BHaney Of course, we are all human but how many mistakes can a person make before its not called a mistake any longer?
This video is 3 years old, and it's hilarious watching it in 2023 because Katie has ONLY gotten WORSE since then. How she still has a platform is beyond me!!! This is a was a great video BTW! Don't know how I missed it back then, but great job! Would be interesting if you did a current follow up on Katie!
I've had my own dealings with Karen Joy. From where I sit, she is without any scruples and void of any semblance of decency. She also imagines that she is an investigative journalist and that she's on the level of TMZ and other such gossip platforms. Her reporting "style" is to regurgitate other peoples' stories and monetize them. A REAL journalist does his/her homework, is unbiased, and reports on various subjects and topics after doing their due diligence in obtaining the FACTS. A journalist allows the reader/listener to draw their own conclusions. However, in her rush to be first with the story, she misses important steps...for instance, being ACCURATE in the details she provides. People have even fed her false stories to trip her up...and she went ahead and rushed to bring her "scoop" without checking the facts. She looked foolish in the process, of course...but would she learn from this? NO! She just deletes her own videos, which has hurt her credibility drastically. She is taking a beating at the moment for the whole "trauma is not tea" outcry after her horrible bludgeoning of the Stand With Sophie story. I find it very suspect that she is now bringing her own story of personal victimization, and in my opinion, it appears as if she went public with this in order to deflect the attention off of her terrible gaffe and garner sympathy. To me, it's so obvious! As her platform is not very big, eventually, she will cross the wrong person and she will be canceled. In a way, she is her own worst enemy and is working to cancel herself.
I agree- her desire to be the first to report is detrimental to her credibility. No one will get everything right at all times but it’s important to correct the mistakes and do better instead of deleting or doubling down.
I just scrolled past the video about her "story" ... WOW!! I won't watch, nope. It is beyond clear this is a deflection tactic. I mean, how can you hold a SE victim accountable of profiting on a childs SE story and saying things insensitive and disgusting about another 10 YEAR OLD SE victim when it's now been erased and is clearly a just a misunderstanding. I mean SHE'S A VICTIM TOO...🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@kathleenweppler7928 yes, we are aware. Calling her Karen was intentional. You missed the joke.
@@kathleenweppler7928 My calling her "Karen Joy" was fully intentional. Just like she can't get BXBeastBoy's name right, and regularly insults him...I choose to call her "Karen Joy" -- which is my commentary on her horrific behavior and childish temper tantrums. But thanks for buzzing in!
You’re spot on.
So she's a Shallon Lester when it comes to her sources...
THE SHADE!! 😂
lmao stop i commented that she reminded me of shallon lester on another video about her!! the way they make crazy shit up about people then backtrack but only make things so much worse for themselves is just a standard trait for this type of youtuber
Not even SL level. Her first big story was the nutbag Schofield family and she "researched" it by going on Kiwi Farms and asking them to fill her in. Didn't even read the thread, just wanted a bullet-point precis because Katie is big researcher.
Only she forgot to research Kiwi Farms. And it's why she's so circumspect when she mentions them because they turned the spotlight round right back at her and eviscerated her. She's no investigative journalist and her writing is infantile, shockingly bad. KFers are shitheels but it can be funny watching them tear someone apart for stealing their research to promote an inflated, grandiose ego.
Why do people hate shallon lester so much
@@purpdist2355 watch j aubrey’s video.
I was subscribed to her for a little over a year. I got so sick of hearing her complain about the drama she was in because of situations she instigated. It's sad that it took that long for me to bite the bullet, but I'm SO glad I removed myself from the toxicity of the community she has built.
Yesss leaving toxic communities can take awhile but it feels so good!
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Me too Hannah! I was following her far toooo long and it was just negative negative drama drama all day looooong...I left finally and I am not surprised at all at where she is headed...she is the cause of her own downfall now that it’s happening
@@erinntay I am not surprised at all either. All we can do now is hope that a good majority of those still supporting her will leave. From what I'm seeing now, it looks like that happen sooner or later.
Maybe if she was a little nicer to those who help you make this your job, things wouldn't be so terrible for you, Katie. Who are we though, right?
Hannah Laudo Exxxxactly! Perfect example of “forgetting where she came from and WHO helped make her”....she will be the cause of her own channel’s demise eventually for sure
I'm so glad you're covering Katie.. it just seems like she is out of control. I was a genuine fan but I noticed her very self absorbed behaviour after a few months.. Katie is just a really horrible person which is harsh words but she just is. She makes up so many lies, manipulates her fans and plays the victim constantly. I just can't stand her tbh
When I first found her I wanted to like her but just I can’t support people who don’t have integrity especially when they’re reporting current events.
She uses her own victimization to victimize others. Truly disgusting. You did a good job, Ms. Haney.
That’s what so many people are saying about her coverage of Sophie’s story and I have to agree 😕 but thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it💛
She was assaulted! You are just being mean at this point. She's is friends with Melissa from dance mom's. Also with Todd Chrisley's daughter. If you never been a victim of a r**p then you can't speak for victim who has!
@@Pineyapplecent Just because one has been assaulted (which I & *many* of her WOACB's critics have) does *not* mean *they* can speak for *anyone* else, let alone a 9yr old *child*
Being a survivor *also* does *not* give one *any* excuse for "being mean" or other *patterns* of problematic behavior, *nor* does it exempt them from criticism
Like many of Katie Joy Paulson's "defenders" (including KJ herself) on many videos about her it seems you did *not* actually watch before commenting 😶
The creator was not "mean" towards Without A Crystal Ball & even included an admitted troll with a proven history of misrepresentation that "defends" KJ by attacking others as a source
What evidence besides KJP's unsubstantiated claims do you have she's still "friends" with LC? WOACB doesn't seem to maintain "friendships" long & has had *several* rather public "endings" including, but not limited to:
Steve McRae
(who she pursued, repeatedly said she "loved" then claimed "never liked him" & made baseless criminal accusations for 3mo until realised she actually was in danger of being sued - she struck the copy of her retraction he mirrored to his channel without warning & in less than 24hrs BTW - & a yr later was continuing with questionable SH claims that not only repeatedly changed but were disavowed by multiple people)
Leslie Bass
(The frenemy drama that never ends! Their 1st "interaction" was KJ calling LB "disgusting" over a video WOACB admittedly hadn't even watched & her criticism - not only of what the video was about but the person KJ was "defending" - was factually incorrect. They went back & forth with KJ publicly patronising LB & exploiting her misfortunes)
Matt Baeir
(1 phone call was all it took for KJ to go from calling Amber Portwood's ex "irrelevant" to "not at all how he's portrayed" & she gushed over "Matty" until LB "tried to swoop in" & "steal" him. Then instead of repeated his unsubstantiated claims without verifying them - like "Viacom *Fires* AP" which she seemingly misrepresented & milked - he was "sexually harassing" her viewers & perhaps most ironically "using [KJ] for clout" 😂)
Sharrell's World
(KJ said she was "fangirling" when SW offered to collaborate, repeatedly praised her & gave her "shout outs" but when SW looked into why she lost *hundreds* of subs & got *overwhelmingly* negative comments on their video KJ & her "friend" Jason started defaming her, threatened lawsuits & apparently tried to doxx her)
Suzanne of No Longer Quivvering
(KJ's former Duggar "source" she kept misrepresenting, colleague at Patheos - who has been with the company for a *decade* & only seen one other time someone had all mention scrubbed from the site as happened to WOACB one other time - & "friend" KJ referenced many times has made videos & written blog posts sharing her experiences with WOACB)
Roux
(Another former "source" for WOACB, this time on Jenelle from Teen Mom, that KJ not only spread negative info about when they fell out but apparently tried to "expose" her identity by sharing photos & a name for the anonymous account on multiple platforms)
Even Kyle Curtis (the person who has been in a business & legal dispute with Steve for over a year) who is "buddies" with KJ again was thrown under the bus *after* Steve said KJ was "off his radar" for simply retracting her false criminal accusations even though she'd repeated them & ignored offers of objective evidence to debunk them for 3months! KJ can't even claim she was trying to save herself when she *offered* Steve "information that could help [his] case" *against* Kyle.
Those are all just people KJ had ongoing periods of positive interactions with & don't include people like BXBeastBoy who tried to *help* her & she promoted his video on her only to turn around & *less* *than* *12* *hours* *later* make *false* *criminal* *accusations* against him 😬 It may be cliche, but with friends like Katie Joy Paulson who needs "enemies"?
@@Pineyapplecent I have been a victim of SA and I went after the guy who did it. NOT the entire family and business. I also didn't monetize my trauma.
@@Pineyapplecent what do her quasi famous "friends" have to do with anything? Does being acquaintances with D-list celebrities make her seem credible to you..? I'm confused
I started watching Katie during the Myka ordeal and watched some of her other videos for like a month. I stopped because she is just a hate channel to me. It's fine to disagree with someone but the way she does her videos is just slanderous, mean spirited, sketchy at best. Even if she had legitimate info on someone, the way she hates on people is horrific while speaking against bullying...she contradicts herself so much that it makes one question whether she's telling the truth or not. She said she was in a cult and she wasn't...she just didn't agree with it but then because of that calls it a cult. She is just annoying to me. In saying that, I really hope she doesn't get bullied or loses her income. I hope she makes it in life. I just think she ought to be authentically kind and not so fake.
Totally agree I watched for the Myka videos then it turned ugly. I unsubbed and stop following but I could see something bad coming from a mile away.
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I don't think that there is anything wrong with wanting someone to stop profiting from things we think are immoral... There isn't only one job on the world. She can do sth different to generate revenue, including still recording YT video but in different manner or different topics
I very agree. I also started watching during Stauffers drama and initially I was very impressed by the level of details she presented.
She have a lot of additional information but managed somehow to keep them structured so it wasn't chaotic despite being a lot, and at the begging I perceived this additional information as relevant to understand why they have done such horrible thing even if it was gossipy and source not as legit as she claims...
For example there is screen running via Internet that Myka was allegedly asking on socials before Huxley adoption what kind of illness looks challengig to be caregiver but it's not - on one hand it's super easy to fake things like this, on other if it is true it explains a lot, so I was very interested and invested.
Then first red lamps was this consistent claims "my sources / informants told me" and Katie keeping her sources anonymous as some protected witnesses during trials but never acknowledging that she's not able to verify if this "informants" people are telling true or just lying because they like to tell shit about other people for fun during gossip... Keeping sources anonymous encourages people to gossip in bad faith IMO and also prevent viewers from verification if there is indeed real person who claim sth or maybe Katie is just making some shit up and is attempting to make her BS sounding more reliable when she says things like "people close to Stauffers told me that"...
She (Katie) never addresess that but she behaves like this gossips which she repeats are 100% legit info (which is not).
Final straw for me when I dropped watching Katie was when he drugged Stauffers family into that to further drag them into the mud... I think it was their parents and I was very disgusted because it was ton of judgmental BS... I personally deal with a lot of childhood trauma, so I'm allergic for people who are judging other people based on their parents (or other people close to them) behavior... We should keep people accountible for THEY actions, not by the actions of they spouse, mum or dad... I refuse to call someone "bad person, because they dad is in mafia/alcoholic" even if they cut all ties to their toxic family years ago. This is just bad, unethical thing to do IMO and big red no no, so I quickly was fed up with Katie's BS when she started slander Stauffers further family and drag they personal shit for simply more views and drama.
Thank you for talking about this! I found Katie during dramageddon 2 when she was doing some deep digging into Tati Westbrook + Tati’s family. She said Tati sent her a cease and desist so she took her videos down. I knew right away that she’s completely nuts, but sometimes I check back in to see what lunacy she’s getting up to. Such a strange woman.
I talk about this in part two! I don’t know of any other commentary channels Tati has sent legal paperwork to so her videos had to have crossed a MAJOR line.
B Haney I can’t remember all of the facts but they did. She mention things about her husband‘s business practices, she mentioned things about her family. Exposed companies that her husband ran or something like that. And the thing is James isn’t even like that in the public. We all knew he was like in the movie business and had something to do with contracts, but she just put his whole business out for anybody. Like paid for a website to get documents or something. Please do not quote me on this, because I don’t remember all the details exactly, but I know she did pay to have background checks done on them and then exposed a bunch of stuff that didn’t have anything to do with any of it. Oh and now she also says she is BFF’s with James Charles’s mom 🙄
Same!!! I won’t dare subscribe to this lady but I can’t help but check in from time to time & see what madness she’s gotten herself into.
@@asdf-JKLL hahahaaaa she’s being sued by Tati Westbrook right now and I just... it’s funny to me
@@BHaney tati ended up sending her 5 so now she is being sued from what I understand. I unsubscribed once she started degrading Nick snider and making fun of his addiction and talking about him being gay and hiv, etc. She's disgusting.
I subscribed to her for a while and didn't believe people who said she had been vindictive toward them. Then I realized she was ALWAYS a "victim" of someone. It started to get old. The BXBeastboy thing was the last straw. What she tried to do to him is awful. I unsubscribed as soon as I finished watching his.
What did she do?
Excellent video!! You have nailed the situation. KJ is a drama queen. All of her issues she brought on herself. She’s a horrible person with no morals. No boundaries.
Thank you, I am so glad you liked it! 💛
I used to watch her when she covered the Stauffers and H, but she is so toxic I don't watch her anymore
Aelia's Manga and Book Reviews - I watched her for the H story too but found her style of reporting a bit droll and it didn’t ring genuine so I too do not watch her anymore. I was unaware of the drama surrounding her until this popped up. 🤷♀️
Katie Joy is teetering on the edge of liable and slander. She has become so ambitious and encouraged by her success that she does not do due diligence which makes much of her information untrue. Personally I also believe (in my opinion) that she is not stable in herself.
I really hope the right person sees what she has lied about on them and sues the shit out of her. She needs to go!!! What she said about sophie is beyond disgusting!!!! I think I’m going to go report every video concerning this little girl sophie. Children are off limits!!! It’s so sad and trashy that she would “report” on something concerning a child that has been SA. I think Katie is lying about her SA Bc of the backlash she got about the sophie story.
Those eyebrows scream that.
@@nichole8622 yup tati is suing her after 5 cease and desist orders that she ignored. I can't stand her. And she's still talking about it!!! 🤦🤦
@@sexitaliana629 Some ppl just refuse to believe they can get in trouble. Her stalking and creepy paid background searches on someone’s whole family is unsettling. The delusion with this one is real! Honestly 5 cease and desist letters was being way nicer than most would have been. How many warning does one need to stop slandering ppl. Normal ppl only need 1 🤣🤣🤣
I can’t stand her. I think everything that is happening to her is well deserved. I hope others jump on board too. She is toxic
@@sexitaliana629 It’s hilarious to me that she said “My attorney said I could carry on as usual and keep making videos” I’m sure no attorney told her just keep on keeping on I don’t think you’re in quite enough trouble just yet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great summary. Some of my issues stemmed from her coverage of the Schofield kids which is going way back. Her inability to admit a mistake or create professional distance from the stories she covers are my main issues with her now.
Keeping a professional distance is very important as a commentary channel! Yes we all have biases but she needs to be aware of how they impact the info she puts out and be better about giving accurate information.
Been looking for a video like this! Finally found it!
This is a video I’m happy to see because I’ve been intrigued about since the Myka Stauffer scandal.
I did not expect to see you here, but it’s a pleasant surprise!
I think that’s what got a lot of people interested in her too! I even watched a few videos thinking she had great information...but that didn’t last long unfortunately
Me tooo!
I’m commenting because you said exactly what I was thinking!
saiah omg! My internet friends are here! The characters have assembled 😎
It’s funny when she talks about Teen Mom stuff and she just HAS to point out that SHE leaked Amber Portwoods abuse videos. Why not hand them to police? She’s just annoying and judgemental
Matt was my friend first
Great video you explained everything so good. The Steve McCrae Katie Joy Kyle Curtis thing is so confusing to me so nice Job explaining it so well. Thanks for linking my channel I really appreciate that! 💚 look forward to Part II
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I’m glad my video was helpful 😊 And thank you for all the work you put into your videos, they were so informative for the topics I’m covering in part II! 💛
Her information is usually something someone said that she twists and tries to makes it seem nefarious. Almost every single video
She is not talking to all these people she claims to be talking to. It’s just a way to make her look like she knows what she is talking about. Every single video she posts she says she talks to people that are close to whoever she is bashing! Total BS!!
Do you have proof though? You’re sort of standing on a sandy foundation with this
@@whoops8412 your user name says it all! Move on!
@@whoops8412 I have seen proof. In one of the myka videos she said that a former neighbor of theirs had reached out to her. Upon further investigation I discovered a comment on ytmd that had stated everything she (wocab) said. She had never been reached out too, she tried to twist her narrative to make people think she had inside sources.
@@whoops8412 the burden of proof is on the person claiming sources.
This is only the third video of yours that I’ve watched. I just want to say one thing I’m very thankful for....your language. It’s clean and polite. So many times I’ll watch a video during the day with my young daughter around and have to pause it because of curse words. Thank you for that!
Thank you for this video! I have been a viewer of her for a few months (bc im a part of the fundie snark community and like to watch commentary on the duggars ect.) and as much as i hate to admit it sometimes im not a very good judge of character especially with ppl i watch and follow online. I actually only found your channel a couple weeks ago bc I was going down a Rachel Hollis rabbit hole so it feels like divine timing to me! lol anyway i appreciate your perspective a lot. (edited to add this little bit) I did sometimes feel little weird about the way she would act about certain things and she also defended Amy Duggar for saying "all lives matter" which VERY MUCH rubbed me the wrong way.
if you want factual information about the Duggars etc follow this lady. This is where Katie used to get all her information from until recently when the lady got fed up with her reporting the things she told her incorrectly. ruclips.net/channel/UC1sxuhl8r6Alld1EPlG21Owvideos
Oh no, not an all lives matter defender. 🤦🏻♀️
This is making so much sense right now.. I have been watching her for a while now and there’s SOMETHING about her that sends up red flags. I’ve noticed she’s super rude and off putting a lot of the times and there’s just something about her that rubs me the wrong way. I can’t put my finger on it just yet - but I’ll figure it out soon enough
If you don't get some kind of backlash from KJ herself or one of her mods I'll be very surprised!! She's a vindictive person.
Katie's confidential source is the voice in her head. When she talks her eyes dart all over the place. It makes her look like she's making things up on the fly.
Bcz she is making up BULLSHT on the fly, imo
Great Video
Great Content
Hopefully KJ will see this & take advice. Shes a mess & thinks she's something she's not
Thank you 💛 I hope she can learn too!
B Haney unfortunately I think she’s going to see this and be the first person to cause problems. When you said that in your video I just put my head down, and was like well wait for it, it’s coming!
@@LoveLunaFam Yeah she will probably run to Unirock like she usually does. Smh
Beth Bryant I honestly have no idea who that guy was, I still don’t really know who he is. But he thinks he’s important. Like extremely important. I haven’t figured out why but I hope they leave it alone. It’s like stay in your kitty land over there, let these adults have their side of the Internet without all your BS
@@LoveLunaFam Who Unirock? His real name is Jason & yep he thinks he's very important & he also thinks his opinion is truth. He believes every word KJ says & never calls her out on her BS
Thank you for covering her! I used to like her because she covered the Duggar’s but then I realized how much incorrect info and drama was going on
Yes!!! The person that she claimed to get her Duggar info from called her out for blatantly lying.
She was getting most of her Duggar info from Reddit and Free Jinger.
@@TheBubblevicious Suzanne of No Longer Quiverring was a "source" WOACB used a lot seemingly in an attempt to get clout despite repeatedly misrepresenting what she said
Suzanne has made video & written blog posts about her experiences with Katie Joy Paulson both personally & professionally - many are shared on my Twitter account 😉
One interesting note IMO is in her decade at Patheos, she's only seen the site scrub all mentions of one of forme author besides Without A Crystal Ball...
@@annie-woacbS Yes you are 💯 percent correct. I follow Suzanne and she's a great lady. Katie did her dirty back when they both were writing for Patheos. She basically tried to take the Duggar content from her. Which she inevitably did when she started YT. Patheos has scrubbed all trace of Katie on the website now. Suzanne said that she's only seen that happen one other time, which is very telling.
Jinger will never be free she chose to marry a narcissist who devalued her she's just as evil as Jeremy!
Legit the exact video I needed. I couldn't find any from the beginning sources and I popped into it too late
There’s a LOT to her story, I’m glad the video was helpful!!
the sub r/woacb is insanely well documented on reddit, you can also check that out - it's legit all sourced from behaviour she's done / things she's said on camera, tweets, instagram posts etc that have all come straight from the horses mouth but she usually ends up deleting and the community we have is able to document her problematic behaviour v well for that reason 😌
SO excited to see AO used your clip and linked both parts of these videos in her video on Tati sueing KJ, these are the most comprehensive looks at KJ and her insanity, which will catch up people who are new to her brand of "journalism"...
two years later and she is still making videos where she is puts in misleading or outright wrong info and deletes comments that werent even criticizing her but trying to correct the wrong info but she cant handle it, it literally kills her soul for someone to say anything to her
Thanks for the background. I'm watching because she recently got herself into drama with the Preacher Boys (a podcast/RUclips who interviews victims of abuse in the Independent fundamentalist Baptist community) and having this sort of background helps make sense of this
Wow I love how you try to be so objective and see all sides of the situation in your commentary. This is the first video I’ve ever seen of your channel and I am definitely a fan now!
This is exactly what I needed and didn't know it till now. Maybe there's a 3 yr update haha
Imo Katie makes up 99%of what she says. There are plenty of channels that use kj own words to show she's lying. It's sad that she keeps growing .
I've caught Katie misquoting people and exaggerating things that have been said and done.
It infuriates me when women make false sexual harassment claims and that’s what she did. Neither of those things said were harassment. What a joke.
As long as your comfortable, we're here for your interesting content, and probably in our pyjamas lol x
Yesss pajamas are literally EVERYTHING. 😂💛
Beginner's guide to people with tons of drama is a good idea!
That copyright issue is fascinating because I watch Katie and she just described on a recent video going through a very similar situation where she got a strike and emailed the owner apologizing and asking that it be taken down. She then got essentially the same response she gave Anjelica. Karma is a bitch! Can't wait to watch the next installment. Will probably stop watching her now.
I saw that too. It was some guy from 90 day fiancé. She couldn’t believe he wouldn’t remove the strike he put on her channel. I watched her beg and then threaten him but he didn’t budge!!! All I thought was... you got yours lady....Karma 😊
@@Kristan863 Even more fascinating IMO is that WOACB tagged 3 fellow RUclipsrs about the copyright situation & not only did *all* advise Katie Joy Paulson *not* to strike but one pointed out the "show" he & Without A Crystal Ball did together read entire new stories & ridiculed them without crediting the sources 😱 Have the archived threads on my Twitter account
So thorough. Well done you! Not even Half way through the video and subscribed. Yay!
Good overview 👏👏👏 Between the videos I've seen of hers, and all the Response videos detailing the myriad of ways she's screwed other channels & their creators- Katie joy comes across Pompous, self-important, & Smug as Hell. & doesnt feel any Shame/Ethical obligation to be gracious or work fairly w/ others... She's out for herself and doesn't give a crap who she screws in the process. She's Shamelessly Self-interested.
There's NO Honor in acting like that.
I follow Katie little. I do fine her alittle boring and do find her pulling people down alot and seems to be pleased reporting on people. You have actually explained alot to me why I see alot of back lash on her which I never really understood. Thank you coming to the point.
This needs to be updated with all the lawsuits going on
I've "kept track" of KJ for over a year. Her change for the WORSE has been so obvious. I thought I knew EVERYTHING about her but after watching THIS video and reading some of the more informative comments, I was shocked that it hadn't even scratch the surface of what I THOUGHT I knew. Omg!! With everything she's allegedly done, I can't believe she's still able to put this kind of content out there on top of her outrageous behavior. Time will tell how this is all going to play out but to me the END of this drama of hers seems closer everyday. 😳
Yess been waiting for this since the live 🥳💖
There is so much to cover, it’s wild!!
samnee!!
In my opinion Katie only got the restraining order against Steve because he initially threatened to sue her for all of the slander she was posting on twitter regarding him collecting disability and not reporting money from the channel (which he has never received) among many other things. Her apology came after this threat. Steve did go on to say a lot of things about Katie which in my mind was warranted after her relentless postings of inaccurate details about him. We would be looking at a completely different scenario if he had gone ahead with suing her. She is a perpetual victim who seems to revel in drama. I unsubscribed after she told us all to follow her on twitter and this is where i saw the true person that she is. She is dangerous and a habitual liar with most of those lies documented and backed with evidence all over twitter and reddit. Thanks for the video, i have subscribed.
Also think it's important to consider Katie Joy Paulson's documented history of misrepresenting "threats" against her - even to authorities!
Whatever one's personal feelings about Amber Portwood, even The Daily Mail called out WOACB for misrepresenting AP's "threats" & KJ's story about has *repeatedly* changed
In April 2019 Without A Crystal Ball discussed what would be required to get a restraining order against someone suing her for defamation
Have seen KJP seemingly attempt to lay groundwork for claims that could lead to ROs repeatedly while making false criminal accusations & threatening "legal action"
She even did so against me when only had 6 followers & 5 tweets (2 had 0 to do with her) though she removed her 30min+ video, I have a copy
These appear to *pervasive* & *persistent* *patterns* of *problematic* behavior IMO & there is a *lot* of objective, verifiable evidence to establish that
Straight up, I always say that if you want to know the real personality of people you watch on RUclips you should follow them on twitter. I have been disappointed more than once lol.
But I’m glad you liked the video and I am so happy to have you here 💛
@@BHaney It's so strange IMO as have seen several people say they only even got Twitter because WOACB kept asking people to follow her there but when they did they were shocked & dismayed by the very different side of Katie Joy Paulson they discovered
So grateful the subreddit exists as many have found it a welcoming community when they are confronted with the conflicting versions of KJ to help them sort of sort through things with people who can understand their confusion, disappointment & sadness over often feeling they have to let go of her community
You should hear her gush about how Lindsay Chrisley is her best friend it's so sad and disgusting
And don’t forget that #AmyDuggarKing gives her all the info on her famous family
a) love how natural and genuine you seem
b)keep up the awesome work - its really refreshing to watch your content !
thank you so much 💛 I am glad you're enjoying my videos!
I was subscribed to her for a few weeks. I unsubbed when I noticed her basically just jumping on random topics that seem profitable and several instances of her being rather rude. I saw when she was talking about angelika and yikes, so rude and snotty. Honestly I liked a few of her videos on myka, Paul and Morgan and some other extreme christians with harmful views, but the other videos are a no go for me. She gives me major fake vibes.
I watched her videos on the Stauffer’s too and thought they were pretty good! But the more I watched her the more I felt like something was off...looking into her dramas I realized something definitely was lol.
Do you know what’s funny, I used the word SNOTTY to describe her too. But I called her a snotty little bitch. But she does have that attitude! She’s just gross 🤮To her subscribers, and the people that are dumb enough to pay and join her damn channel. I don’t know why I feel so strongly about this woman! I am not a person who comments hate or negativity on videos. I don’t take RUclips to that seriously. But I don’t know, she has struck a nerve with me. Like we’re about the same age and she’s giving us 40-year-old women a really REALLY bad look! Because that’s not all of us are middle-age Karen’s who act like we know everything and are too delusional to actually see the facts when they are presented. Also have you ever seen her try to be nice? It literally looks like she is in pain when she’s trying to be nice to someone. It’s undescribable.
Katie seems to be full of crap, BXBeastboy has a lot of info on her as she really dragged him and I love Beastie.
Yess!! Love BXBeast❤
#FangGang 😊
Let's play the Nasty song for Karen Joy; You nasty fam, you nasty, you nasty, fam, you know your name! 🎶🎵🎙️
@@saraa1741 Fang Gang!!
@@christyb7455 fang gang all day! I love Bxbeast
I quickly burned out on all of those "quantity over quality" channels. I think I was only subscribed to her for a week when all that crap with the stauffer's happened and immediately lost interest.
Exactly, I love to watch people who upload pretty frequently but sometimes it's just too much!
Late to this party but here are the two things I can’t stand about KJ:
1) She acts like she KNOWS some of these people (which to my knowledge she does not). When Jill Duggar posted a pic of herself drinking alcohol KJ was going on and on like “Jilly I’m so proud of you!” And I was like what? Are they friends?
2) When the issue with John Gosselin allegedly harming his son came up. Despite Jon’s other child completely disputing the claim (and the fact that the other child had a history of severe trauma/issues) she just jumped right on the bandwagon of accusation! She made so much content off supporting Jon, showing Jons return to the public eye, etc. and at the first sign of something slightly amiss she does a complete 180. Now of course we need to always, always take child abuse cases seriously but to make a drama commentary about it felt ultra slimy and weird to me
She constantly trips over her words... I can't watch her. Her voice is shakes. So annoying
Yeah bit slurps of water with her man hands and umming and ahhing about everything. It's because she knows herself she's full of it
I am a new subscriber and I do notice how often she trips on her own words or speaks incorrectly. I didn’t mind it until she make a remark about Jenelle Evans misspeaking. Pot meet kettle.
@@zlayne357 ya, I can't watch her. Her voice tremors, and she can't read anything correctly...too annoying
I’m so happy youtube recommended this video to me! I’m loving ur commentary 🥰🥰
Thank you💛 I am so glad you're enjoying it 😊
@@BHaney I’ve been binging all ur videos!!! I absolutely love ur commentary 🥰❤️❤️ you’re so sane & reasonable
thank you for this iv tried to watch her videos a few times during the whole amber thing but can’t last longer than a few minutes , her voice really annoys my happiness , glad i found this ❤️much love from the uk 🇬🇧
Oh my goodness. I’m dying. I followed her WAY back when she first started her RUclips channel when she talked about medical issues, I was on maternity leave as a first time mom and I was SO BORED. I loved that she covered content about mother’s medically abusing their kids and some other interesting stuff. She seemed like she really cared about it and advocating for people. I would watch and participate in her live videos and enjoyed the community. It was odd because she slowly started covering more reality star stuff which is 100% nothing I give a shit about. I watched less and then went back to work from maternity leave and forgot about her. Stumbled across all this weird drama and now I find myself sucked in for some strange reason. It’s so weird how her channel is a tea channel now and lives in this weird sphere. It’s a trip! Thanks for the low-down on it for someone on the WAAAAY outside.
I vaguely remembered hearing something about her but she’s been popping up in my recommended a lot lately so I looked it up and your video was SUPER helpful
Hey I like you! Your vibe is quirky and astute RUclips did something right w recommendations lol.
Thank you so much💛 I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Thank you for this! I would love to see more videos in this style from you. Looking forward to part 2.
Judges typically issue ex parte orders to air on the side of caution. It’s basically an emergency order to keep the plaintiff safe. Steve’s trial date 20 days later was his chance to defend himself and I’m glad he did. Obviously the judge saw no merit in her request. This woman is dangerous.
I'm liking that this Creator is trying to be neutral and respectful. I hate trash talk videos.
There's 30 mins i'll never get back!
He never harassed KJ
To get a restraining order that has no evidence being heard in front of a judge is called a pros say restraining order meaning it is a restraining order without seeing any evidence yet said in a court date for the defendant or the respondent to be able to reply and have enough time to show up to court and have their say. Then what happens is if the judge thinks the applicant has enough evidence then they Grant the restraining order and that as called an ex parte restraining order after judgment.
About 95% of the time a restraining order is not granted unless actual physical proof is brought before the court.
I know this from personal experience.
She moved to youtube because video pays more money than blogging. She just said this the other day.
I love this video and damn I love this channel just because it's full of crazy ball on Adderall shit talking. Way to go
Very nice video 😊 I appreciate that you obviously looked at several sides, even if those sources are on opposite sides an have various different views about alot of this. The Non Seq issue is still up for debate, as is the NDA between KJ an SM .. I look forward to a part 2 😊
You are coming off like 60 minutes versus the Geraldo show. Job well done, you just earned a new subscriber! Looking forward to see what your channel has to offer. ☮️💟 Nana
Thank you so much! I am happy to have you here 💛
she accused me of being a fake account when I didn't agree with her. Meanwhile Im never that person that is combative on line and this is my only account across all platforms. I even invited her to come onto my private Instagram account to have a look around to see I wasn't fake, because she accused my account of being one of 15 fakes. whatever.
She’s a liar, and obviously has too much time on her hands. I doubt she has any sources, except what she creates in her head! 🙄
this popped in my notifications, recommended. happy it did! just subbed. can't wait for part 2
yo I made there two pieces of art for her son, worked hard on em, put a lot of love into em, and then didn't even get a thank you from her. true colors shown idc
Thats awful
Wow. That’s says a lot. She got banned from the Reddit sub about her. She couldn’t control herself. She made her own Reddit page but no one goes there.
Hello...I just started watching WOaCB, and wasn’t aware of these controversies. When she starts talking about her court case, I just fast forward. I guess I’ll have to pay closer attention. Thank you for posting this..it’s important to hear all sides of a story, and I will pay closer attention to any future shenanigans that involves KJ.
Loved this video. First time seeing your channel and will definitely be watching from now on. I was a WOACB subscriber but left because I shared your concerns regarding ‘gossip’ verses factual information. Plus her presentation style became very uncomfortable to watch. 👍
I don't get how you can copystrike someone for not sourcing some article. It is good etiquette but i don't think it's fair to strike someone over it.
Definitely unfair. I get wanting to be credited, but WOACB absolutely went about it the wrong way.
Good job. Exactly what I've thought many times. Katie comes off as jaded and cruel.
Thank you for making! 💛✨
I hope you enjoyed it! 💛
Here from Angelika Oles video!!
I really appreciate how reasonable and fair you were in your summation. You laid out the info in a clear and concise way and let the viewers come to their own conclusions.
I am so pumped for part two! Well done, as literally always ❤️
Thank you for this. I subbed to her in the beginning of the year bc I needed some “nothing” to watch on RUclips and teen mom gossip was perfect for that.
I also appreciated that she has a disabled kid but doesn’t exploit him, but admits that she did and then made the choice to stop bc she knew it was not okay.
However, there just came a point where she rubbed me the wrong way and made me feel uncomfortable but I couldn’t pinpoint why.
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it! It’s so interesting how our guts are usually right when we have an off-feeling even if we can’t figure out exactly where it’s coming from!
Are we even sure she has a son? I feel like it’s something she’d do, lie. Is there proof she’s a mom?
I'm so excited to see the next part!! 😍 I cannot stand Katy!! I've also thought "who are these people she's sourced?! Are they even real?!" Seems too suspish that she's ALWAYS got a source 'close to the family/situation'... She isn't that known! No way she gets that many "sources"! 🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤣
Katie pulling to known sources of lies from her butt
@@LaraCroftEyes1 🤣🤣
KJ is way worse than I thought. Sexual harassment?! Omg. That is not SH...she needs to act like an adult. Not a 9 yr old. I hope she loses her ass in court. Karma b-otch
Get her Tati.
More like 'The National Enquirer' bs scandal sheet then tmz tbh ;o)
it doesnt matter to me much, but i prefer the fairylights+white background over the neutrals.
But that's just my magical ass. ✨😂😅
I love them too, they’re so pretty 😭🥰 I just need a bigger house so I can clear up the room 😂
😂 😂 😂
Looking through the comments, I'm noticing a pattern that I myself experienced, as a former subscribber to Katie Joy. I was subbed to WOACB for a few months & in that time I noticed that she seemed to have beef with anyone she ever works with.. as well as her neighbors. I'm old enough to see the common denominator in Katie's drama. The BXbeastBoy & Augie mess was the final straw & I began to see her as a problematic, thin-skinned Karen. She also rubbed me wrong in how she speaks to her subs, it just felt condensending. I've been wondering about the real Steve situation ever since I realized how manipulative Katie really is.
Subbed! I saw a "WACB" video and I had no idea who that was, and then I was ever lost on that info....so here I am, lol. TY :)
I'm so glad it was helpful! I'm glad to have you here💛
Concerning the RO and her feeling threatened, as Dr Phil says, "The best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour". She appears to have lied and embellished before, so what's the betting she did this to obtain the RO?
You are sweet on how speak about such a trainwreck....I get potty mouth when I watch other creators discuss her.
My child has adhd and I can't speak to the amount of care her child requires but I have no clue how you could give a child with special needs of any kind and out w out the amount of content she does. She obsessive about people and "Tea" in general.
I agree. And I read he had 3 life threatening illness she said. And not sure it’s true. She changes the story about that. I know he has autism. I am chronically ill for years and it’s a full time job in away. Many doctors visits and hospital stays. She definitely isn’t spending enough time with him. I read she fired his nurse because she wanted her son to get out more. They were in the basement all the time with her son on the IPad. She even brought it up in a video. Unbelievable!
Also according to her she was not sexually harassed. Complementing someone else is not sexual harassment no matter how you look at it. And there was a million other things she could have said other than pointing out the porn stars boobs. The word penis is not sexual harassment and complimenting someone else is not sexual harassment. Making you feel uncomfortable is not sexual harassment. Those are two separate things.
Just to clarify, she was well over 100k subs when she started covering the Stauffer's.
I have unsubscribed from this person KJ
It was the stealing from her subscribers for me 🤥🤡
She stole from her subscribers? 😱 That’s low
I really loved this video! Everything you said is on point!
I don’t know who the Steve guy is, but it’s funny how after the lawsuit proves Katie was backing the wrong partner, she claims she just wanted to trust her friend, but that she “knew something was off.” It’s like she will NEVER admit to being wrong or admit that she didn’t know something, even if it makes her look worse, like she’s knowingly sticking up for the wrong party. Lol.
New viewer. Came to start at beginning. You showed up with part 2 on my page. ❤
Omg thank you for opening my eyes!!! After I seen her video over Sophie and her father Michael Long by saying he put it into his daughters head that she was sa! No way that was an act I was sa and I felt Sophie’s pain when I saw that video. This is video she could have left alone.