The fact that Matt gave her the cold shoulder for two days after she just gave birth, and then had the audacity to throw a pity party about how his life isn't all about him anymore tells me everything I need to know about him as a husband. I couldn't imagine my husband treating me that way after I just gave birth! I really do feel bad for Abby. Matt is an immature, selfish man-child.
I had a csection with one of my kids and my recovery was TERRIBLE. The doctor that took over my care (because my doctor was that bad) said I needed to stay an extra night and I was so relieved because I was not physically or mentally ready to leave. My husband was going bonkers in the hospital. He was so ready to go home and the doctor could see this and asked him how he was feeling. He said “I’m ready to go home. But this isn’t about me. It’s about Liz and what she needs to be ok.” Because he’s not a complete fucking ghoul.
And then being jealous and tryin to force her to use formula because he wanted to feed the baby... No man should be jealous and projecting because he cant lactate 🤮🤮
Not Matt basically saying that bringing homework to your children at school creates irresponsible and disrespectful people then being a fully grown adult with children and forgetting to pay his water bill for 7 months
the cheating birth comment sent me over the edge, that was sick. so incredibly insensitive to the major (and possibly traumatic) surgery Abby went through. so so so wrong.
I couldn't give birth naturally because of a uterine defect. I was sad but thrilled my deformed uterus blessed me with a live baby. She should feel cheated of that because of his immature gaslighting. She should feel cheated of a man not a baby. She has 3 of those....
I can't imagine being married to someone who would film me crying and upset, disoriented and coming out of anesthesia, while he's laughing and trying to prank me. My only exposure to this couple so far is what I just watched in your video, but my impression of him is that he has the emotional and overall maturity of a 12-year-old middle school boy.
Guys, they were wholesome? How to get more views? Let's show how shitty our relationship is, a lot of couples are doing the same, because it works, we talk about it
Anybody can forget to pay a bill..... but you'd also have to ignore repeated monthly notices. So Matt isn't reading the mail either? This must go beyond simple neglect.
@@marissa630The only exception in the Bible given by Jesus Himself for divorce is adultery. For us Christians divorce is a sin, because it's breaking a covenant.
It feels like… they never have conversation off camera so when the camera is on it all comes out. I feel like multiple times a day I think to myself, ‘this did NOT need to be posted for the entire world to see.’
The part about the hospital and breastfeeding breaks my heart for Abby.. literally minutes after I had given birth, my mother-in-law calls my husband saying she needs him to come help her jumpstart her car because it’s not starting (always happens during times like this, right?😅) but anyway.. my husband DIDN’T leave the hospital.. even for that.. he called a friend to go help his mom and told her “Momma you know I love you.. but my wife just had our baby. I won’t leave her alone.” And Matt left Abby to get donuts?? That she never received?? I wanna scream. 🙃
My husband went to grab food for himself once and he only did that because I had another family member in the room. He did not want me to be alone at all before or after labor in case I needed something
The thing that’s so crazy to me about the “if we bring our kid his homework he’ll grow up irresponsible” is like… or he’ll learn that he can lean on the people in his community to help him out when he makes a human mistake? Why are some people so eager to teach their kids that the world is a cruel place and if you ever make a mistake you’re on your own. Rather than teaching them how to support the people around them and reach out for support when they need it in return.
I've been thinking about how to handle situations exactly like this recently. My perspective is everyone makes mistakes, and you can help them every so often. However if it becomes a habit, that's when you have to work something out. Maybe have a conversation, like I will drive something to school twice a month tops. After those two times, I will not be driving anything to school. So do what you need to do to come up with a system to remember things that are your responsibility. It is also not always reasonable to drop everything to, in many cases, leave your job to drive home, drive the stuff to the kid's school, and drive back to work at a moment's notice, assuming it's even allowed.
@@sarah-s9y8bright but to me that’s the difference between natural consequences ie: people aren’t always available to help you and even though you shouldn’t be too hard on yourself for making a mistake you also have to understand that sometimes you won’t have anyone (like your parents) around to bail you out. Vs spite, ie: you’re being irresponsible so I’m punishing you by not helping you. The intentions behind those two actions are different. Yes, even parents need to reasonably have the ability to say “hey I just can’t right now kiddo im really sorry”. That’s the same expectation you’d have for a coworker, neighbor or friend. Vs teaching people that they’re only allowed so many mistakes before they are no longer worthy of helping. Which for a lot of disabled or neurodivergent kids especially can be hard to maintain consistently.
@@BrittanyCollinsBand that's an interesting distinction. I may need to sit in it for a while, but respectfully, I'm not sure I agree that only parenting with natural consequences is effective. Parents walk a rather difficult line between being that space of comfort, support and safety while also needing to prepare children for the world in which they will one day live independently, needing to solve their own problems, negotiate, etc. While I can appreciate that maybe a numerical limit isn't appropriate for every child, it reflects a lot of other similar situations in society (fair or unfair) that they must live in. I think ultimately though, the focus should be on finding a solution, and that solution should depend on the child's abilities, relative to their age, development, mental capacity, etc. The reason I mention a numerical limit is because it's a parent drawing clear boundaries surrounding their time (mind you, it's not a hill I'd die on or anything - and I'm still actively considering these things as a new parent who will inevitably be faced with this issue), providing time for their child to come up with a solution to help them remember important things (something that, no matter their mental diagnoses or lack thereof, will be incredibly important - and certainly, a boss in the future will care if they can't remember to do their work appropriately or show up on time), and also showing their child that they are willing to help them come up with a solution but that they cannot forever be the solution. Again, this will all depend on the child's age. I would have different expectations for an elementary school student as I do for a high schooler. I would also have different expectations, in a way, for a child with neurodivergencies. However, it would also be my job to teach that child, no matter their diagnosis/ability (not accounting for diagnoses so extreme they couldn't live on their own one day), how to live with others in society. If you raise a child with the expectation that you will solve their problems for them without limits (and basing that off of pure ability of the helper doesn't seem like a limit - e.g. if I was a SAHM, I could potentially bring homework everyday, but is that teaching responsibility?), they will begin to expect that in life from beyond just their parents. Ultimately, I'd like a solution that teaches not just about natural consequences (though one could argue a natural consequence to serially forgetting homework is failing the class) but also about social expectations when dealing with others beyond your parents. E.g. if they forget a project that must be presented that day and they have a conversation with their instructor, and the instructor will not let them present another day, if I could leave work, I'd probably do it - but if it's a random homework assignment and if the teacher doesn't accept late work, the natural consequence may be, "Okay, so you'll have a couple points off for the day, but it won't fail you. When you get home, we'll work together to figure out how to remember those things better in the future." It would also teach them how to try to negotiate with others, even superiors, respectfully. Maybe I was blessed, but if I spoke to most of my teachers about the situation and let them know that I'd bring it the next day, many of them would've worked with me and compromised. So many kids are genuinely afraid to even try this because they've never had to. And that absolutely extends to adulthood. My mom is a University professor, and I work in HR in a position wherein I speak with employees when they have concerns. Unfortunately, we've both noticed a trend recently where young people (many in my generation even) have no idea how to negotiate or have tough conversations with superiors or even peers. They also struggle to take personal accountability for things that are entirely under their control. Unfortunately, there are a lot of trends in parenting recently that involve parents solving most of their children's problems, even into high school age. At the end of the day, while I want my child to regard me as a safe and comforting place with whom they can share and ask anything, I also need them to understand that life has limits. And while people will help, you have to be able to be accountable for things that are your responsibility. For example, it is my responsibility to raise my child in a way that makes them feel loved and also prepares them for a pretty unfair world, at times. And even if I physically can leave work 10 times per month to bring my child their homework, I'm not sure I'm doing them any long-term favors while doing it. But frankly, that's just the way I was raised (while maintaining a super loving and caring relationship with my mom - I never doubted she was there for me if I needed her) and intend to raise my child. There's nuance to everything, and that color often gets lost in singular YT comments, so I hope I better expressed some of that here.
I totally agree but I think there has to be some nuance to the situation. I have a middle school son with ADHD- he needs some help. But as his mom I have to help him put systems in place so when he goes to college/career/ move out that he can function without me. It's my job for him to need me less as he gets older. But he still always needs his mom. So walking that line is so crucial but we have to treat kids with human respect and decency.
"if my child forgets their lunch I am not going to bring it to them because my 6 year old needs to learn consequences" is something Ruby Franke did. I'll just leave it at that.
No. This is a horrible comparison. A freshman in high school is not the same as a 6 year old. Homework isn’t the same thing as food. Stop equating this to each other. This undermines real abuse and malice like what Ruby did.
The sad fact is that Abby will cling to the relationship the more that people tell her it’s toxic/he is mistreating her. I’ve been there (not being filmed, but clinging to a bad relationship) and it is hard to come to terms with. I hope Abby can enforce some boundaries with him or get into a healthier situation, with or without Matt.
Very true, that’s her family unit being criticized so it makes sense she would publicly defend him. I do hope the same, though, that we see some kind of change. Of course we don’t know what happens when they’re off social media and her submissive persona could simply be that, but we only know what we see and what we see makes me feel bad!
@@BHaneymakes you feel bad? Really! Well then! I guess there's nothing left for the poor woman but to blow up her entire life and marriage cause it makes you feel bad🙄 What about 'til death do us part'? What about growing together and forgiving one another, hm? You gave your opinion. Bravo🎉. Feel better? More virtuous?
@emmaela91 Yeah, we're all big meanies! Welcome to being a public figure on the internet, which is what they wanted. People will have opinions. It's almost like they worked and strove for views, aka people watching who will have opinions and observations.
@@emmaela91 babe are you ok? I didn’t realize til death do you part meant taking all the sh*t anyone gives you with no regard for your own life, wants or needs. Oh wait, you’re projecting.
I HATE when men try to act like they also suffer during pregnancy. Or when any partner acts like that when the other person is the one pregnant. Yes, you as a non-pregnant person in the relationship will experience changes and go through things with the pregnant person, but the pregnant person is the one that is dealing with the pregnancy itself. It is not the same. Getting food your pregnant partner is craving or holding their hair back when they throw up is not the same as having insatiable cravings that drive you insane or puking until you're dry heaving. No. No. No. You don't have the health risks or the bodily changes. You don't have the massive amount of hormone fluctuation. Etc. It is not the same. Stop that behavior.
I could NEVER stay with someone who finds it FUNNY to torment me when I'm vulnerable. I hope the money they make from this is worth the emotional distress they put each other through.
He *is* amused. You can see him smirking. It’s because he sets up the scene to make it look like he is a loving, helpful patient husband… and make her look bad as an overly emotional, complaining, crying shrew. He’s a narcissist. This is how he (1) creates his public facade of being a good guy and (2) devalues and humiliates her.
Good lord! If I just found out my husband dropped the ball for 7 months on paying the water bill, then told he just touched me with his poo poo hands…camera would need to be cut because I would go off the rails.
The grumpy fingers thing was clearly a joke and him forgetting to pay a small bill for a while doesn't mean dick when you're rich she didn't actually care and neither did he...pay the shit it gets turned right back on it was just for a funny video the only way this sucks is if you don't make plenty of money and can't pay to get it back on
Matt is a narcissist. He will undermine and devalue his children in all of the ways that he does with Abby. He will also blame them for all of his failures just as he does with Abby. Time will prove me right, sadly.
Matt has adhd. ADHD is highly genetic. If his child had adhd, forgetting this is often not a choice. I hope he has more empathy for his children because children are developing and may forget even if they don’t have adhd.
Ooh interesting. ADHD (I have it too) can also make people more impulsive and makes it harder to communicate. Maybe he should consider getting medicated, especially if they’re going through hard times
Based on his behaviour with his wife (I don’t watch them and have only seen a couple of these videos) if his children which may also have adhd struggle with impulsiveness, unable to focus on tasks etc, I feel like he would rather remove himself from the situation for Abby to deal with, which is completely unrelated to his adhd and more down to him as a person. I don’t think he’s even capable of empathy, which is a whole other issue in itself
I think they are EXCELLENT rage baiters. They know they get views by enraging viewers with his immaturity. They are making a lot of money destroying each other for likes.
Embarrassing part is....i think its unintentional. Theyre just like that behind closed doors too probably. It must be draining to be Abby's friend hearing her vent and seeing these videos and not be able to call out Matt without Abby defending him
@@brownsugar7922yeah I agree. It’s obvious that they’re genuinely immature and have likely only stayed together because they’re afraid of being alone/the kids. They haven’t been without each other since high school so they really don’t know anything else. It’s actually really sad.
@@brownsugar7922 People that have lived next to them (and gave proof for that) came out and said that they would argue pretty badly and that Abby cried a lot during those fights She probably knows it herself
I love how he wouldn’t help his child out for fear of the child becoming spoiled/getting used to getting their way, but pushes Father’s Day 3 months so that he can celebrate both….almost like it is about his wants and needs above anything or anyone. Children learn things like patience, humility, kindness, etc by watching those around them, mostly their own parents
And when he forgot to pay the water bill for SEVEN MONTHS that was fine. But your kid forgets their homework once and it’s some kind of hell worthy trespass.
@@lizzimmermann7164 right??? It’s extremely odd to me that someone would have more grace for themselves as an adult than they would for a literal child
@@emilypaigem2000 I’m both a teacher and a parent. Kids forget stuff. Adults do too. And as long as it isn’t constant, it’s fine. There have been days when I forgot my lunch and my husband brought it to me. He didn’t castigate me. He cared for me. As for a kid chronically forgetting their homework there are things you can do to help them at home without jumping to the conclusion that they are disrespectful or on the wrong path. If they are young literally just check their backpack with them before bed.
the water bill thing was so messed up. what does he even do???? he's not cleaning up the gross messes, he's not paying the bills, he's not doing the house cleaning or child stuff... like what ?
He gonna cheat. Somebody is gonna baby him while she's running the house and not having time to baby him but he'll see it as her ignoring him. This guy is insufferable. He's just too far removed from the real world. I know that they make plenty of money but him getting a job would go a long ways as rounding him off. He's like an adult that's homeschooled. Take 50 percent of this stuff off the internet and realize your music is a hobby and he'll be a lot better off.
15:00 when Matt is talking about the kid whose parents helped them out, and the parents now have a restraining order… I’ve got a MORE extreme counter for you, Matt: there was this family vlogger named Ruby whose daughter forgot her lunch, and Ruby refused to bring it to her, and now Ruby is IN JAIL. 😂
OMG, I made the Same EXACT REFERENCE!!!😂 As a parent myself- advice for them: DONT RAISE YOUR KIDS TO BE DISRESPECTFUL BRATS. lol it really is that simple. Treat them, as you would have wanted to be treated as a child.
To be fair, she's not in jail for refusing to bring lunch to her child who forgot her lunch.... ruby frank was a demonic monster! Matt is just an air head.
40:10 I feel like he really doesnt like her (let alone respect her) so that's why he enjoys antagonizing her. He probably resents her for a host of reasons. I bet he calls her too sensitive. She's always crying and I wouldn't be surprised if it's because her poor nervous system is overwhelmed by all of the stress he induces in her.
You can TELL quickly that he’s a giant man baby & the biggest reason the baby coming into the world shook him is cuz she no longer had the same amount of time or energy to baby HIM!! Thought he still guilt trips her for it every chance he gets. What about myyyyy birthday mom, I mean babe?!? Gimme a break.
I think this couple follows the trend of fundamentalist men being emotionally immature and generally incompetent. I was not attracted to a man until I left the fundamentalist home/culture I grew up in because these type of relationships were the only example I had. It felt easier and safer to be alone as a woman. Now I'm not personally a Christian and in a very loving, fair relationship. (Not that you can't be religious and be in a good relationship obviously! ❤)
@@mpv7575 I don't actually know. Based on how they have talked about "waiting for marriage", their statement that "divorce is not an option", and who they feature on their podcast, I would assume so; however, I don't watch their content and wouldn't want to assume someone's religious affiliation.
@@MegAplin I've watched enough of their content that uses language you only know if you were raised in the church and when their families have conversations it is highlighted lightly. They definitely don't focus on it woth their content.
Regarding the Father's Day drama: My birthday is between Christmas and New years. I also share a birthday with a cousin. We've naturally always had birthdays integrated into the Christmas festivities. Similarly, my family has several birthdays in May around Mother's day. Those birthdays and any graduation parties were all celebrated with Mother's day for convenience. You know what celebrating multiple occasions at once gives you?? The perfect excuse to get extra cake and other desserts. Matt is wasting his chance at having birthday cake and father's day pie!!
For real! I'm a twin born two days after Christmas. So I've always shared my bday. We did have half bday parties growing up because our friends could never make it to a late December one.
The concept of the “traditional marriage” was conceived long before our current first world advantages. Setting up autopay, online bank accounts, credit cards, debit cards etc. You used to have to actively balance a checkbook, write checks or physically go pay your bills in person with cash and wait in line to do so, visit the bank weekly in person often, order checks etc. Matt’s entire job being able to be “set up on autopay” and then he doesn’t even have the maturity to check for confirmation emails, check to see if their bank balance is going down….how is he managing anything? Truly he obviously has no idea where their money is going, when the balance is going down or at all….he’s not managing anything. He’s gotten the easy way out because he thinks setting up bills on autopay is the extent of his “traditional job”.
Matt reminds me of my ex husband. I'm so grateful that I was able to get therapy to help me realize how toxic our relationship was. I'm healthier and happier as a single mom than I ever was married to him.
So, about the formula fight where Matt left the hospital: This was after the birth of their second child. She has done this before. As far I remember she also breastfed their first. From his tiktok this was within the first day after birth. In his tiktok he says "I just wanted the baby fed, and she wanted to breastfeed"... as if she was letting their child starve.
@@ChyGNOIf it had been later on after the birth then yes but this was right after she gave birth. The baby doesn’t need a lot of food right after birth so it is fine if she needed it a day or two for the breastfeeding to pick up. So yes he was making her feel bad for something he didn’t even seem to understand.
@@ataraxia8114 I don't quite agree with you. I'm a mom of 2, both C-sections. While the woman did the bulk of the work, postpartum period is not easy for the man either. There was absolutely no need for her to keep insisting on breastfeeding while the baby was hungry and fussy. Fussiness in babies creates a very tense and overstimulated atmosphere. I love Abby, but she was in the wrong there.
@@ChyGNO also mom of 2. Breastfed the first combo fed the 2nd so obviously not against formula but colostrum is all the baby needs for the first day or 2 until milk comes in. The baby was NOT starving. Breastfeeding is hard in the beginning for mom and baby matt needed to give them time and he didnt. Abby was not wrong here. Now if the baby was actually in distress (i e losing weight, too few wet/stooled diapers) that would be different. But they were fine and he just had to have his little " i know whats best" moment.
Regarding 26:20 The issue for me is not that Abby cleans the rotten pumpkins but that when Matt is disgusted by them, he can't handle the chore and hands it off. That's childish. Does Abby all the icky chores because Matt is disgusted by normal household stuff? She is like a mom in that situation. She probably is disgusted too but knows that somebody has to do it and he won't.
I pray their child is not neuro spicy in any way because god forbid he has ADHD it's going to be a rough upbringing if forgetting your home work is considered disrespect
This couple is so weird, my husband and I are the same age as them and we’ve been together since high school, we had some very immature moments growing up sure but that was years ago. We’ve been married for 4 years and our dynamic is nothing like this. It does make me feel like it gives younger married people a bad look. Matt just gives me the major ick 😬
I have no poor opinion of people that get married young, I was engaged young. I think with them a big factor seems to be how they were raised/their beliefs and the mindset they have about relationships as a result. They said that they’ve stayed together because divorce is not an option in their marriage.. it just seems that if they didn’t have that viewpoint they wouldn’t necessarily stay in it
I have no issue with young people in a healthy relationship getting married, but I’m wondering the reasons behind these two wanting to get married so young. I’m wondering if it was the physical side more than the emotional.
I think their relationship looks great actually I don't know where you guys are getting this and kinda blowing things outta proportion not everybody's relationship is like yours or how you think it should be
@@BurntMcgurntThat relationship isn’t great. As you get older you realise what you are willing to put up. I wouldn’t touch a guy like Matt, and she’s a fool and naive for accepting the way he talks to and about her!
My parents were alllll about consequences, i faced the consequences of my own actions completely on my own, and what I learned is that I don’t need my parent’s support. I can face anything on my own. There is good and bad that comes from this. It’s good because I am very independent and am confident that I can handle a crisis situation, but its bad because I don’t really know how to ask for help, I usually do not ask for help until I am completely desperate and broken down, which sucks for me, but also for whoever I am asking because by the time I’ve asked them its a full on crisis, but if I had asked for help sooner then whoever generously wanted to offer their assistance could have stopped the crisis from happening in the first place. Mu point is, raising your child in a way where they face every consequence of their actions with no assistance (from the people who are supposed to love and care for them), it can create a dysfunctional adult who believes the world is on their shoulders. P.s. I am no contact with my parents for almost 3 years now. Treat your children with compassion and respect.
I feel like, especially in the clip about the marriage counseling, Abby says how she feels but immediately backpedals by saying just kidding. She said something along the lines of Matt being worried about selling the house because of finances and he says “no!” And she laughs and says just kidding. I know it happened in other points in just the clips you show. I hope she gets individual therapy too to work through why she doesn’t have that confidence in herself.
WFTW: I'm about to finish crocheting my first adult sized sweater! It was finished except for the ribbing for months, and this week I finally figured out how to make it work. I'm a huge sweater girlie, so hopefully this is the first of many!
On the bringing your kids their homework topic, both my parents worked there was no way my parents would’ve been able to bring me my homework at school if I forgot it so I don’t think this stance is the end of the world. However, I think if this is a problem your kid is consistently having, as a parent you should be working on that with them, set up a time right before bed where you make sure everything is set for the next day, make a check list if you have to. I had a really hard transition into middle school and one of my teachers didn’t like me at all. I was constantly getting in trouble for not having my homework in her class. My parents knew I’d done the homework so we started problem solving, we checked each night that the homework was in my folder and in my bag. I still couldn’t find it during class, we figured it was an organization issue, bought an accordion file folder so I could set up a system. I still couldn’t find it when the time came. It turned out I hadn’t been forgetting my homework, the stress of having a teacher I knew already disliked me waiting for my homework meant that I was always in such a panic searching for it that I flipped right past it. We created a special spot in the front just for my homework for that class so there was nothing to search through and that finally solved the issue. Problems with kids aren’t as simple as they’ll learn from the consequences and won’t do that again, every kid is different and you need to work with your kid based on their needs. For me the consequences just put me more on edge the next day, the more times I failed to hand in the homework the more I panicked, it was a vicious cycle. Give your kid the tools to handle the problem going forward and they can learn to implement them on their own later on.
I grew up in a "consequences will make her work out how to fix the problem" family. One particularly ridiculous example is refusing to write a note that said they'd seen a progress report (that they'd seen). I had to write "I will return my progress report" 800 times during many recesses. It did not help me remember things and just made me anxious. Adult me knows I have ADHD, and a little help would have saved me so much sadness, frustration, self-hatred, etc. Reading how much your parents tried to help you healed a little part of my inner child. Thanks for sharing.
This isn’t a job for kids anyway! It’s the parent’s job to remember that the kid has homework and make sure it’s in the kid’s backpack before they leave the house in the morning. The kid will slowly take over that kind of thing as they get older but for a young kid it’s always ultimately the parent’s job. Once they get to high school, they would find it annoying to have their parents always checking in “is your homework done? Did you put it in your backpack? Are you sure?” And teenagers also don’t want parents looking inside their backpacks, so by that time it’s 100% the kid’s job. But if they do forget it, it would still make sense for the parent to bring it to school if possible.
It’s SAD that we’re not talking about he works, she handles kids/house which is already off kilter but he does the finances I take care of everything else is WILD!! Criminal!! Between auto pay, e-banking where you can swipe a finger & pay a bill them BOTH working for social media it’s maybe an hour a month & she still had to find out about that going wrong. Taking care of 2 small kids, cooking, cleaning & taking care of yourself vs paying bills is insane. She works more in a DAY than him in a YEAR then hours wise. What they show is lie the reality of the trad wife movement cuz this is what it’s like behind the scenes with that profile of couple. A woman working her ass off cleaning constantly & everything kids need with a guy who emotionally unavailable, entitled & ungrateful for all she does.
not to mention, he doesn't really work. his "work" is in the online sphere and a large portion of their income comes from videos that abby creates! i have a hard time believing they would be making any money without abby.
Traditional marriage roles are for dads that work 40 hours and do stuff around the house and fix things not pay someone or in Matt's case not pay someone. Gives Traditional relationships a bad name.
@@zachmalone428 Exactly, I'm a student and pay my parents house bills( cause they don't know online) and all you need to do is add the card password and the bills are paid online automatically for literally anything!!!... There a difference between working 9-5 and social media. Him justifying that he is paying the bills that's the reason he isn't doing home chores is so stupid.
The irony is matt himself is forgetful. He has adhd, his kid most likely will also. I'm in my 30s and forget things all the time. I can't help it as I too have adhd. Our family helps each other
I’m late dx ADHD. Being an adult and aware of your brain’s shortcomings, you do have some influence. You’re not entirely helpless there. I have a basket with all my fun job items. I keep chargers in each room and in the car. I do routines like key hooks so my keys are in the same place. There’s nuance in everything but I feel like saying “I can’t help it” is too much absolving yourself of any responsibility. If you know there is something important, there are so many options for systems you can implement. For example, you can say right now, Alexa set a timer for 4 hours and remind me to search for ADHD resources on how to mitigate being forgetful. Meds also make a difference for I think over 80% of people with ADHD. (Yeah I know they can be expensive and sometimes hard to access). But we aren’t just out there in the wilderness alone with our broken brains. We’ve got tons of resources in 2024.
What’s sad about these two is that when they started out on TikTok you can tell they were both innocent and cute and that’s how they exploded. Matt let it get to his head and now strives for attention whether it’s positive or negative because he gets his validation through his followers. Abby strives for validation through Matt. He has gained a resentment towards Abby because her platform is bigger and is there AD Queen and makes most of their money even though social media was his idea not hers. I wonder how it will all end? 😂
Win For The Week: I finished a draft for another book. I'm very tired after several late nights, but incredibly proud of myself for sticking to my goals.
This is AMAZING! Congratulations on all of your hard work… and here’s to hoping that, one day, you can come back here and tell us that you’ve been published. Creativity is a wonderful thing. Good luck! Dream big! ✨ x
I also live in Phoenix! About a year ago I actually sat next to Matt and abbey on a flight! They were really sweet to each other and the other people on the flight, but that was just a small look into their lives. I agree their content is worrysome 😅
The bill thing is wild to me, it makes me wonder if this has something to do with being more wealthy. Because I am pay check to pay check and I know exactly when all of my bills are coming out and need to be paid. Would be so nice to just not even be aware of that lol 😅
I find it weird because even if you are rich, you can put things on autopay. At least in Europe. I always paid everything that is recurrent on autopay like rent etc. So I do not get it.
The messing with her at the worst possible times, putting her down as “jokes,” expecting her to do absolutely everything while he does the bare minimum and expects praise for that, constant disrespect and thinking she’s wrong about everything until someone else (usually a dude…) backs her up….UGH I’m getting flashbacks! Reminds me so so very much of my ex fiancé, who (big shock) was also both of our first “real relationship” (his first relationship at all; I had had a couple casual high school boyfriends prior) end of high school and all through college. The “have you ever thought about kissing other girls” was a convo we had as well, because I was worried that if we went forward with the wedding he would eventually resent me for him never getting the experience of dating other people. It’s such a bizarre experience watching their videos and I honestly feel bad for her.
@@BHaney girl meeee too!! Any stray “what if” feelings are immediately obliterated after watching any clips of Matt & Abby lmao. Especially after going through therapy, learning more about what toxicity actually looks like (finally learning what “negging” is was like the ultimate click moment for me lol) and overall seeing first hand through different experiences that not all men treated their partners that way…ugh it makes my skin crawl to think about still being treated like that and SO thankful we didn’t go through with it. I know for a fact that there’s so much I wouldn’t have been able to accomplish in my life, both emotionally and and like career-wise, had I stayed in that relationship: that type of treatment really breaks you down and steals so much of your self confidence that it’s night and day comparing myself now to the shell of who I was when I was with him!
My partner and I didn't notice we weren't paying the water bill for almost 6 months before I realized, BUT we also both work full time (plus overtime) and share all household tasks, so it's a lot more reasonable that we'd miss it. Bills are Matts only chore it seems.
Matt seems like such a child. I could never put up with a husband like this. He seems like somebody who hasn't matured past a middle school or high school mindset, which is awful and embarrassing on its own, but he's got a wife and kids who depend on him. Grow up and step up for your family!
I’ve had to block them on all platforms. I truly believe he is psychologically abusing her. The things he says are more than awful. They live with her parents or maybe did, thank goodness. She married someone that only cares about the status of having a wife and children, not actually being a good caring husband.
The forgetting homework thing is one of the things I can actually offer my two cents. (all the other things is just wild and i don't have the energy to do a full rant) I have adhd and so does my mom. We forget things all the time. My mom has been there to bring in my homework (when I was younger, now since I'm in highschool I've learned to deal). But she has brought in my computer, my meds, my lunch. I do not disrespect her, if anything I have more respect. Her being there to help me every single day no matter what I need makes me feel so greatful. I am so lucky to have a mom like her. Someone who doesn't make me feel horrible for forgetting something.
I really feel like Abby is trapped in that marriage. I mean, their entire lifestyle/income is dependent on their marriage. Plus if they did get a divorce, Matt definitely doesn’t seem like the type of guy to willingly and peacefully pay adequate alimony (because we all know the channel isn’t going to Abby) or help take care of the children (because he already doesn’t). I used to watch their channel around the time they started and judging from some of the things I’ve heard them say about marriage and other aspects of life, Abby would likely be harshly judged if she did leave. Plus, neither one of them knows how to function as an adult on their own because they literally never have. I don’t agree with a lot of things Abby has said/done in the past but my heart truly breaks for her. I feel like they’re slowly becoming more and more like the toxic dynamic of the ACE family and lots of other family channels. This is one of the biggest issues with family channels. Not only do they exploit their kids and their spouses but they become so used to it that they just don’t give a crap about anyone else’s feelings. Like imagine your significant other in pain and hurting but seeing nothing but dollar signs. Disgusting.
Matt is still a child. He never grew up and Abby had to because she has three children (Matt being one of them) to take of. Also the fact he does these mean spirited things especially when she is sick, recovering or mad shows he doesn't care about her feelings at all.
I have never watched them and after seeing this I don't think I ever will. Matt is the worst! The way Abby apologizes when she doesn't have to makes me scared for her. And I get what you're saying about Abby should know what's going on with their finances, but at the same time if that's his one and only household chore and she is doing absolutely everything else it really sucks that he can't do that one thing.
Oh for sure, she SHOULD be able to trust him with their money especially since it’s the only household thing he’s responsible for. I’d just hate for her to be completely blindsided with something more severe than not paying the water bill.
The crazy thing about him hating on fathers day is theres people whos birthday falls on thanksgiving sometimes or easter or their birthday is just on christmas when everyone is preoccupied with the other holiday but at least he actually IS a father?? So the holiday honors him and thats still not enough???
Win of the week: I talked to my mother in person for the first time since 2015 after I had gotten a restraining order. I thought it was a dumb idea to get closure and felt I didn't deserve it since alot of people don't get and move forward. I was afraid of being let down and of being hurt again. But it was the first time in my life in which someone from my biological family had respected my boundaries and stayed respectful and caring. She was so grateful that I had shown up and given her a chance to show that she was trying hard to heal and grow. God bless our journey may the Lord protect us and allow us to forgive and grow.
Win for the week: finally got accommodations booked for traveling late next week to see my aging grandma. So excited to spend some time with her, and possibly my aunt/uncle/cousins I haven’t seen since I was a kid.
Re Abby's relationship with their finances: In our marriage, I (F) am the one who handles the budgeting/bill-paying/saving/investing. I'm more detail-oriented and I work in finance, so it just makes sense to play to our strengths. But you better believe I make sure that my husband is in the loop for all of that. We both know that it's the perfect conditions for financial abuse if one partner has no clue about what the other is doing with their joint finances. Also, the number of widows I work with on a weekly basis who have no clue about their finances since their husband always took care of it makes me never want that for my spouse should he out-live me. All that to say, your thoughts on all of that really struck a chord. You do you when it comes to division of labor, but there is no reason to not know how to do all of it if push came to shove (and I would argue the same thing with Matt and household chores, but that's a different conversation...).
On your “I don’t do some of the gross stuff” comment, I totally agree! There is so much room within a relationship to say “I don’t wanna do that more than you don’t want to” My partner takes care of the bugs in our house, and I can take care of food that’s gone off. I am so happy to not have to deal with bugs, he even makes the appointments for the exterminator. I think the line is “I won’t do this ever” instead of “I would really appreciate NOT doing this”
I'm so happy to see you covering them as there is a lot more to uncover in the Christian adjacent space. I stumbled upon their videos on ticktock early into their posting and haven't been able to look away since (i'm definitely not their target audience). Their whole lives seem incredibly sheltered and over time Matt's extreme desire for attention and Abby's need for a slow quiet life seems to be ripping them apart. They seem like a sheltered fundy adjacent couple with all the same baggage I see time and time again. The stronger accusations get against his negative public persona the harder she throws herself into the flames by "standing by her man" and "traditional headship" while giving him little accountability for his actions. There have been displays from very early on that give red flags for future heartache even in the early days were they posted a lot of what I would label "great husband fanfic" content. I actually enjoy their podcast for the variety of guests (even though they are not great interviewers) and am not strickly a snarker, but there are major things that seep out that are deeply rooted in religious upbringing that is incredibly toxic.
Having a baby is one of the most emotionally, mentally and physically taxing time for a woman. She needs unconditional support, no questions asked. It sounds like her husband was more concerned with himself and his needs. Breastfeeding can be very challenging, and you need Encouragement to keep working at it. Women are absolutely AMAZING Creatures 💜 I'm sorry she had to deal with such a Man Baby.
i discovered them 3 years ago when i was thinking about getting an iud. abby got one and made a video about her experience with it. one of the questions she got asked is about the effectiveness of the iud, and i remember her saying something along the lines of ‘well if you can’t handle the consequences of having sex then don’t have’. i honestly found that comment to be off putting and i wrote her and matt off as fundies. matt kinda comes across as a typical fundie man imo
I have this weird feeling that Abby brings out untouched topics on the podcast because Matt doesn't actually talk about things like this in private. I don't know if that's what this is, but it's disturbing 😢
If you tell your wife that you are taking care of it, you should at least hire someone to do it. She is basically a single mom with two small children, so Yeah can be difficult with adhd, but then maybe he should be doing the childcare and let her do the bills.
I recently saw a clip where they explained that they had to use Matt’s credit alone to buy their house because Abby accidentally ruined her credit. She said she had signed up for Duolingo on monthly autopay and then never paid that credit card…which she claims she didn’t know until it went to collections. As a result, her credit was ruined. So then to buy a house and not have learned your lesson, to the point that your water is shut off? It’s insane to me. I also don’t understand how neither of them were more careful with their budget in the first few months of being in their house. A new house means your budget totally changes, and it can take a few months to figure out where everything lands. Now that we’ve been in our house for years, it’s easy because I know how much everything costs. But when you just moved into a house, you’re starting over in a lot of budget categories. And for neither of them to be aware enough to notice that you’re missing a whole category from your budget doesn’t make sense to me at all! I triple checked everything our first few months of owning just to make sure this didn’t happen to us. I think that’s a very normal, adult thing to do?
Don’t forget that after the Father’s Day clip, they posted a video where he said they were celebrating their anniversary AND her birthday on the same day
It makes me more mad that they’re supposedly Christian. He is very selfish and lacks that relationship with Christ. Because for him to have a relationship with God you aren’t selfish anymore, you put the needs of others before yourself, you are selfless, etc. he doesn’t love her. He loves himself
My husband's birthday is sometimes on Mother's Day. And the way that man celebrates me that day/weekend instead of himself (we celebrate his birthday either the weekend before or the Friday of that weekend). I could NEVER have a man child like this.
so many of these clips I’m like “wait should I even be here? This feels weird me listening to such a vulnerable moment” . I for sure wouldn’t want people hearing me work through certain things w my spouse 😅
i'm only 15 minutes in at the part where Matt talks about not bringing his kid's homework to school and i'm laughing at his little "when i forget something i deal with the consequences" tyrant because all i can think about is the video they posted about him forgetting to pay their water bill for like 9 MONTHS STRAIGHT?
The grossest thing I did recently was clean up a nest of dead decomposing baby doves. I was soooo annoyed my husband did not take care of it. And it was in a very difficult place. I had to stand on a ledge and the nest was close to the ceiling, meaning my face had to get up close. And the worst was that I put bricks so there wouldn’t be a new nest. Sometime after, my husband knowing the disgustingness I took care of, removed the bricks without putting a replacement or telling me. I only found out when hearing/seeing a new nest being constructed. I lost my mind at him.
The fact that he can’t count to two is major 🚩 🚩 Seriously though, no one should be filmed when they’re not feeling good especially when they’ve just had surgery. Then to play a “prank” on them during that time just seems really mean. He seems very emotionally checked out.
My win for the week is that I’m officially over halfway in my pregnancy AND managed to get my handmade biz in a store in a different state! What a week!
I will always clean up gross things because my husband is so queasy. I'd rather clean up one mess than have to clean up his puke as well lmao! He usually gives it his best shot, and if he can handle it he does before asking for my help. I usually don't mind.
My win for the week is that we went on a wonderful vacation with my parents and afterward we were able to make the 12 hour drive home yesterday in one day, and our 5yo and 3yo did incredibly well.
They either make things up to create drama to get more views, or all of it is real. I always feel bad seeing Abby crying on camera. Imagine your husband putting a camera in your face instead of comforting you
On the forgetting your homework thing, I can PARTIALLY see where Matt is coming from. If my child was in high school and forgot their HW every once in a while, then okay, no big deal. We all get overwhelmed, tired, or just simply forget things sometimes but if this is a CONSTANT thing that your child doesn't remember to bring it with them or doesn't make it a priority then I can understand telling them I will no longer be bringing you your HW. It is now your responsibility. If your child just forgets their HW though and then you immediately say "well sorry you're going to fail." That's an issue lol
I said this on another video and I will say it again. They need to grow up without cameras and have their disagreements without an audience. They need to resolve things between them before they air it to the public and they just need to focus on them and their family. We all make relationship mistakes when we are young. They are making some big and small mistakes with some being potentially toxic. They need to step away from the cameras and get on with growing up!
as a mother of two who is physically incapable of delivering babies and can only have c-sections, to hear that a man asked his wife in the hospital bed if she feels like she cheated childbirth by having a c section genuinely makes me want to cry. i struggled so much and still do knowing that i was unable to birth my children that way i wanted to and knowing there are people out there who thinks we took the easy way out makes me sick and angry. matt is a disgusting man and abby deserves so much better.
That sounds horrible to go through, I hope you're doing okay! My thought while reading your comment was that your body grew and nurtured your children for 9 months and they (hopefully) got birthed, c-section or not, as healthy babies and it doesn't seem to change anything about you as a mother. I hope I don't come across as condescending or as a know-it-all because I'm aware it's something super personal. Wishing you all the best!
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The fact that Matt gave her the cold shoulder for two days after she just gave birth, and then had the audacity to throw a pity party about how his life isn't all about him anymore tells me everything I need to know about him as a husband. I couldn't imagine my husband treating me that way after I just gave birth!
I really do feel bad for Abby. Matt is an immature, selfish man-child.
He was also upset because his bday is on father's day.
@@juniperwool. He’s insufferable
i do not feel bad for Abby, she knows what she signed up for and the rage bait content their relationship puts out. Shes capitalizing off of it
I had a csection with one of my kids and my recovery was TERRIBLE. The doctor that took over my care (because my doctor was that bad) said I needed to stay an extra night and I was so relieved because I was not physically or mentally ready to leave.
My husband was going bonkers in the hospital. He was so ready to go home and the doctor could see this and asked him how he was feeling.
He said “I’m ready to go home. But this isn’t about me. It’s about Liz and what she needs to be ok.”
Because he’s not a complete fucking ghoul.
And then being jealous and tryin to force her to use formula because he wanted to feed the baby... No man should be jealous and projecting because he cant lactate 🤮🤮
Not Matt basically saying that bringing homework to your children at school creates irresponsible and disrespectful people then being a fully grown adult with children and forgetting to pay his water bill for 7 months
THIS! OMG! The audacity!
She should get a restraining order! It's the logical progression of being forgetful!
That’s like the least offensive mattism in this video 😂
Sounds like he is talking about direct experience.
Not the man talking about teaching their kids responsibility, forgetting his responsibility.
I also thought is was like a very unlikely example like just jumping to when their kid is a freshman in high school
He's projectiiiinggg. Probably because he feels like he's un-capable of doing normal adult things
the cheating birth comment sent me over the edge, that was sick. so incredibly insensitive to the major (and possibly traumatic) surgery Abby went through. so so so wrong.
Imagine creating life and being told your cheating… holy f*ck
C sections are 100% inherently traumatic
I couldn't give birth naturally because of a uterine defect. I was sad but thrilled my deformed uterus blessed me with a live baby. She should feel cheated of that because of his immature gaslighting. She should feel cheated of a man not a baby. She has 3 of those....
I can't imagine being married to someone who would film me crying and upset, disoriented and coming out of anesthesia, while he's laughing and trying to prank me. My only exposure to this couple so far is what I just watched in your video, but my impression of him is that he has the emotional and overall maturity of a 12-year-old middle school boy.
The laughing while she was crying?! Like what!? It's so uncomfortable. I'm gutted for abby
My dad took a picture of me throwing a tantrum on my DISPOSABLE CAMERA with finite pictures when I was six or something. It was super traumatizing
I think that ppl living from this focus on living to make content and with time materials wash out and they agree to put out too much
You're crazy if you think she didn't approve that these uploaded they have become very rich rates baiting people. It works on simple-minded people
Guys, they were wholesome? How to get more views? Let's show how shitty our relationship is, a lot of couples are doing the same, because it works, we talk about it
Anybody can forget to pay a bill..... but you'd also have to ignore repeated monthly notices. So Matt isn't reading the mail either? This must go beyond simple neglect.
Or even easier… checking email.
@@Sunset1705yes I check my emails like my social media
I hate that they don’t “believe” in divorce. Divorce is an option, and there’s a reason people get divorced
Even in religion, there are several situations that “allow” for divorce. This dudes is so clueless. So sad for her
I hate when people say they don't believe in something that exists! We're not talking about believing in the tooth fairy!
@@marissa630The only exception in the Bible given by Jesus Himself for divorce is adultery. For us Christians divorce is a sin, because it's breaking a covenant.
@@rachel3620 No one is saying it doesn't exist. We are saying it is against our Faith and isn't for us
@@Be_An_Estherwouldn’t be surprised if he starts having an affair in the future
A grown man throwing a fit about his birthday is wild
Not to mention he just got home from taking a vacation 😒 Get a grip, Matt
Especially when he revokes his right forgetting to pay their water bill. Lol
It feels like… they never have conversation off camera so when the camera is on it all comes out. I feel like multiple times a day I think to myself, ‘this did NOT need to be posted for the entire world to see.’
Rage bait clearly works though!
I agree. Why publish this and make money over it? Have some self respect and some privacy.
The part about the hospital and breastfeeding breaks my heart for Abby.. literally minutes after I had given birth, my mother-in-law calls my husband saying she needs him to come help her jumpstart her car because it’s not starting (always happens during times like this, right?😅) but anyway.. my husband DIDN’T leave the hospital.. even for that.. he called a friend to go help his mom and told her “Momma you know I love you.. but my wife just had our baby. I won’t leave her alone.”
And Matt left Abby to get donuts?? That she never received?? I wanna scream. 🙃
My husband went to grab food for himself once and he only did that because I had another family member in the room. He did not want me to be alone at all before or after labor in case I needed something
The thing that’s so crazy to me about the “if we bring our kid his homework he’ll grow up irresponsible” is like… or he’ll learn that he can lean on the people in his community to help him out when he makes a human mistake? Why are some people so eager to teach their kids that the world is a cruel place and if you ever make a mistake you’re on your own. Rather than teaching them how to support the people around them and reach out for support when they need it in return.
I've been thinking about how to handle situations exactly like this recently. My perspective is everyone makes mistakes, and you can help them every so often. However if it becomes a habit, that's when you have to work something out. Maybe have a conversation, like I will drive something to school twice a month tops. After those two times, I will not be driving anything to school. So do what you need to do to come up with a system to remember things that are your responsibility. It is also not always reasonable to drop everything to, in many cases, leave your job to drive home, drive the stuff to the kid's school, and drive back to work at a moment's notice, assuming it's even allowed.
@@sarah-s9y8bright but to me that’s the difference between natural consequences ie: people aren’t always available to help you and even though you shouldn’t be too hard on yourself for making a mistake you also have to understand that sometimes you won’t have anyone (like your parents) around to bail you out. Vs spite, ie: you’re being irresponsible so I’m punishing you by not helping you. The intentions behind those two actions are different. Yes, even parents need to reasonably have the ability to say “hey I just can’t right now kiddo im really sorry”. That’s the same expectation you’d have for a coworker, neighbor or friend. Vs teaching people that they’re only allowed so many mistakes before they are no longer worthy of helping. Which for a lot of disabled or neurodivergent kids especially can be hard to maintain consistently.
@@BrittanyCollinsBand that's an interesting distinction. I may need to sit in it for a while, but respectfully, I'm not sure I agree that only parenting with natural consequences is effective. Parents walk a rather difficult line between being that space of comfort, support and safety while also needing to prepare children for the world in which they will one day live independently, needing to solve their own problems, negotiate, etc. While I can appreciate that maybe a numerical limit isn't appropriate for every child, it reflects a lot of other similar situations in society (fair or unfair) that they must live in. I think ultimately though, the focus should be on finding a solution, and that solution should depend on the child's abilities, relative to their age, development, mental capacity, etc. The reason I mention a numerical limit is because it's a parent drawing clear boundaries surrounding their time (mind you, it's not a hill I'd die on or anything - and I'm still actively considering these things as a new parent who will inevitably be faced with this issue), providing time for their child to come up with a solution to help them remember important things (something that, no matter their mental diagnoses or lack thereof, will be incredibly important - and certainly, a boss in the future will care if they can't remember to do their work appropriately or show up on time), and also showing their child that they are willing to help them come up with a solution but that they cannot forever be the solution. Again, this will all depend on the child's age. I would have different expectations for an elementary school student as I do for a high schooler. I would also have different expectations, in a way, for a child with neurodivergencies. However, it would also be my job to teach that child, no matter their diagnosis/ability (not accounting for diagnoses so extreme they couldn't live on their own one day), how to live with others in society. If you raise a child with the expectation that you will solve their problems for them without limits (and basing that off of pure ability of the helper doesn't seem like a limit - e.g. if I was a SAHM, I could potentially bring homework everyday, but is that teaching responsibility?), they will begin to expect that in life from beyond just their parents.
Ultimately, I'd like a solution that teaches not just about natural consequences (though one could argue a natural consequence to serially forgetting homework is failing the class) but also about social expectations when dealing with others beyond your parents. E.g. if they forget a project that must be presented that day and they have a conversation with their instructor, and the instructor will not let them present another day, if I could leave work, I'd probably do it - but if it's a random homework assignment and if the teacher doesn't accept late work, the natural consequence may be, "Okay, so you'll have a couple points off for the day, but it won't fail you. When you get home, we'll work together to figure out how to remember those things better in the future." It would also teach them how to try to negotiate with others, even superiors, respectfully. Maybe I was blessed, but if I spoke to most of my teachers about the situation and let them know that I'd bring it the next day, many of them would've worked with me and compromised. So many kids are genuinely afraid to even try this because they've never had to. And that absolutely extends to adulthood. My mom is a University professor, and I work in HR in a position wherein I speak with employees when they have concerns. Unfortunately, we've both noticed a trend recently where young people (many in my generation even) have no idea how to negotiate or have tough conversations with superiors or even peers. They also struggle to take personal accountability for things that are entirely under their control. Unfortunately, there are a lot of trends in parenting recently that involve parents solving most of their children's problems, even into high school age.
At the end of the day, while I want my child to regard me as a safe and comforting place with whom they can share and ask anything, I also need them to understand that life has limits. And while people will help, you have to be able to be accountable for things that are your responsibility. For example, it is my responsibility to raise my child in a way that makes them feel loved and also prepares them for a pretty unfair world, at times. And even if I physically can leave work 10 times per month to bring my child their homework, I'm not sure I'm doing them any long-term favors while doing it.
But frankly, that's just the way I was raised (while maintaining a super loving and caring relationship with my mom - I never doubted she was there for me if I needed her) and intend to raise my child.
There's nuance to everything, and that color often gets lost in singular YT comments, so I hope I better expressed some of that here.
I totally agree but I think there has to be some nuance to the situation. I have a middle school son with ADHD- he needs some help. But as his mom I have to help him put systems in place so when he goes to college/career/ move out that he can function without me. It's my job for him to need me less as he gets older. But he still always needs his mom. So walking that line is so crucial but we have to treat kids with human respect and decency.
"if my child forgets their lunch I am not going to bring it to them because my 6 year old needs to learn consequences" is something Ruby Franke did.
I'll just leave it at that.
I want to hear her bring that up to him and see what he says. I bet he agrees with ruby Franke
No. This is a horrible comparison. A freshman in high school is not the same as a 6 year old. Homework isn’t the same thing as food. Stop equating this to each other. This undermines real abuse and malice like what Ruby did.
The sad fact is that Abby will cling to the relationship the more that people tell her it’s toxic/he is mistreating her. I’ve been there (not being filmed, but clinging to a bad relationship) and it is hard to come to terms with. I hope Abby can enforce some boundaries with him or get into a healthier situation, with or without Matt.
Very true, that’s her family unit being criticized so it makes sense she would publicly defend him. I do hope the same, though, that we see some kind of change. Of course we don’t know what happens when they’re off social media and her submissive persona could simply be that, but we only know what we see and what we see makes me feel bad!
@@BHaneymakes you feel bad? Really! Well then! I guess there's nothing left for the poor woman but to blow up her entire life and marriage cause it makes you feel bad🙄
What about 'til death do us part'? What about growing together and forgiving one another, hm?
You gave your opinion. Bravo🎉. Feel better? More virtuous?
@emmaela91 Yeah, we're all big meanies! Welcome to being a public figure on the internet, which is what they wanted. People will have opinions. It's almost like they worked and strove for views, aka people watching who will have opinions and observations.
@@emmaela91and God forbid women support other women and want well for them.
@@emmaela91 babe are you ok? I didn’t realize til death do you part meant taking all the sh*t anyone gives you with no regard for your own life, wants or needs. Oh wait, you’re projecting.
I HATE when men try to act like they also suffer during pregnancy. Or when any partner acts like that when the other person is the one pregnant. Yes, you as a non-pregnant person in the relationship will experience changes and go through things with the pregnant person, but the pregnant person is the one that is dealing with the pregnancy itself. It is not the same. Getting food your pregnant partner is craving or holding their hair back when they throw up is not the same as having insatiable cravings that drive you insane or puking until you're dry heaving. No. No. No. You don't have the health risks or the bodily changes. You don't have the massive amount of hormone fluctuation. Etc. It is not the same. Stop that behavior.
It's always hilarious when they say we're pregnant. No, no, only one of you is struggling with the internal bowling ball
I could NEVER stay with someone who finds it FUNNY to torment me when I'm vulnerable. I hope the money they make from this is worth the emotional distress they put each other through.
Right? That would be so stressful and upsetting.
Matt genuinely looks like he is amused when Abby is expressing her hurt feelings to him. It's really unnerving to watch.
He *is* amused. You can see him smirking. It’s because he sets up the scene to make it look like he is a loving, helpful patient husband… and make her look bad as an overly emotional, complaining, crying shrew. He’s a narcissist. This is how he (1) creates his public facade of being a good guy and (2) devalues and humiliates her.
Good lord! If I just found out my husband dropped the ball for 7 months on paying the water bill, then told he just touched me with his poo poo hands…camera would need to be cut because I would go off the rails.
The grumpy fingers thing was clearly a joke and him forgetting to pay a small bill for a while doesn't mean dick when you're rich she didn't actually care and neither did he...pay the shit it gets turned right back on it was just for a funny video the only way this sucks is if you don't make plenty of money and can't pay to get it back on
Matt talking about his son forgetting his homework reminds me of Ruby Franke talking about her daughter forgetting her lunch.
DUDE YESSSSEE
YESSS! THAT IS SCARY!
Just typed a similar comment, then saw yours! Agreed!
Matt is a narcissist. He will undermine and devalue his children in all of the ways that he does with Abby. He will also blame them for all of his failures just as he does with Abby. Time will prove me right, sadly.
I was thinking this!
Matt has adhd. ADHD is highly genetic. If his child had adhd, forgetting this is often not a choice. I hope he has more empathy for his children because children are developing and may forget even if they don’t have adhd.
Ooh interesting. ADHD (I have it too) can also make people more impulsive and makes it harder to communicate. Maybe he should consider getting medicated, especially if they’re going through hard times
He doesn’t have ADHD. He’s never been diagnosed.
@@PinkPosies-dk7qpHe has been diagnosed recently
He actually had a whole thing talking about how he wouldn’t bring his kid forgotten homework (In a hypothetical future where their kids are older)
Based on his behaviour with his wife (I don’t watch them and have only seen a couple of these videos) if his children which may also have adhd struggle with impulsiveness, unable to focus on tasks etc, I feel like he would rather remove himself from the situation for Abby to deal with, which is completely unrelated to his adhd and more down to him as a person. I don’t think he’s even capable of empathy, which is a whole other issue in itself
I think they are EXCELLENT rage baiters. They know they get views by enraging viewers with his immaturity. They are making a lot of money destroying each other for likes.
Rage bait is some of the worst kind of content, but I agree- they’re great at creating it!
Embarrassing part is....i think its unintentional. Theyre just like that behind closed doors too probably. It must be draining to be Abby's friend hearing her vent and seeing these videos and not be able to call out Matt without Abby defending him
@@brownsugar7922yeah I agree. It’s obvious that they’re genuinely immature and have likely only stayed together because they’re afraid of being alone/the kids. They haven’t been without each other since high school so they really don’t know anything else. It’s actually really sad.
I dont think they are that smart
@@brownsugar7922 People that have lived next to them (and gave proof for that) came out and said that they would argue pretty badly and that Abby cried a lot during those fights
She probably knows it herself
I love how he wouldn’t help his child out for fear of the child becoming spoiled/getting used to getting their way, but pushes Father’s Day 3 months so that he can celebrate both….almost like it is about his wants and needs above anything or anyone. Children learn things like patience, humility, kindness, etc by watching those around them, mostly their own parents
And when he forgot to pay the water bill for SEVEN MONTHS that was fine. But your kid forgets their homework once and it’s some kind of hell worthy trespass.
@@lizzimmermann7164 right??? It’s extremely odd to me that someone would have more grace for themselves as an adult than they would for a literal child
@@emilypaigem2000 I’m both a teacher and a parent. Kids forget stuff. Adults do too. And as long as it isn’t constant, it’s fine.
There have been days when I forgot my lunch and my husband brought it to me. He didn’t castigate me. He cared for me.
As for a kid chronically forgetting their homework there are things you can do to help them at home without jumping to the conclusion that they are disrespectful or on the wrong path. If they are young literally just check their backpack with them before bed.
the water bill thing was so messed up. what does he even do???? he's not cleaning up the gross messes, he's not paying the bills, he's not doing the house cleaning or child stuff... like what ?
She’s either going to hold on to this marriage to spite the audience and he leaves her, or she will wake up and leave.
I hope she wakes up and leaves his ass
He gonna cheat. Somebody is gonna baby him while she's running the house and not having time to baby him but he'll see it as her ignoring him. This guy is insufferable. He's just too far removed from the real world. I know that they make plenty of money but him getting a job would go a long ways as rounding him off. He's like an adult that's homeschooled. Take 50 percent of this stuff off the internet and realize your music is a hobby and he'll be a lot better off.
15:00 when Matt is talking about the kid whose parents helped them out, and the parents now have a restraining order… I’ve got a MORE extreme counter for you, Matt: there was this family vlogger named Ruby whose daughter forgot her lunch, and Ruby refused to bring it to her, and now Ruby is IN JAIL. 😂
OMG, I made the Same EXACT REFERENCE!!!😂
As a parent myself- advice for them: DONT RAISE YOUR KIDS TO BE DISRESPECTFUL BRATS. lol it really is that simple. Treat them, as you would have wanted to be treated as a child.
To be fair, she's not in jail for refusing to bring lunch to her child who forgot her lunch.... ruby frank was a demonic monster! Matt is just an air head.
40:10 I feel like he really doesnt like her (let alone respect her) so that's why he enjoys antagonizing her. He probably resents her for a host of reasons. I bet he calls her too sensitive. She's always crying and I wouldn't be surprised if it's because her poor nervous system is overwhelmed by all of the stress he induces in her.
You can TELL quickly that he’s a giant man baby & the biggest reason the baby coming into the world shook him is cuz she no longer had the same amount of time or energy to baby HIM!! Thought he still guilt trips her for it every chance he gets. What about myyyyy birthday mom, I mean babe?!? Gimme a break.
Finally!!! I see them on shorts all the time and I’ve been waiting for someone that I already watch to cover them lol
Happy to be of service! Haha
The post pregnancy comments broke my heart for Abby. Talk about going for the soft underbelly 😭
I think this couple follows the trend of fundamentalist men being emotionally immature and generally incompetent. I was not attracted to a man until I left the fundamentalist home/culture I grew up in because these type of relationships were the only example I had. It felt easier and safer to be alone as a woman. Now I'm not personally a Christian and in a very loving, fair relationship. (Not that you can't be religious and be in a good relationship obviously! ❤)
Are Matt and Abby religious? I can't say I've heard if they are or aren't. They haven't been on my radar for that long.
@@mpv7575 I don't actually know. Based on how they have talked about "waiting for marriage", their statement that "divorce is not an option", and who they feature on their podcast, I would assume so; however, I don't watch their content and wouldn't want to assume someone's religious affiliation.
They have alluded to if not openly spoken about being raised Christian at some point, but don't seem to feature it in their content much. @mpv7575
Never seen them act religious or spiritual.
@@MegAplin I've watched enough of their content that uses language you only know if you were raised in the church and when their families have conversations it is highlighted lightly. They definitely don't focus on it woth their content.
Regarding the Father's Day drama: My birthday is between Christmas and New years. I also share a birthday with a cousin. We've naturally always had birthdays integrated into the Christmas festivities. Similarly, my family has several birthdays in May around Mother's day. Those birthdays and any graduation parties were all celebrated with Mother's day for convenience.
You know what celebrating multiple occasions at once gives you?? The perfect excuse to get extra cake and other desserts. Matt is wasting his chance at having birthday cake and father's day pie!!
For real! I'm a twin born two days after Christmas. So I've always shared my bday. We did have half bday parties growing up because our friends could never make it to a late December one.
That “man” is really three children in a trench coat.
He does give Vincent Adultman
HAHAHAHA the way I cackled
@@Jana-ho9muvincent has a much better understanding of business and finance lol
After giving birth you are super super fragile. I cannot stand this guys "jokes"
Exactly, that’s when everything should be about making sure she’s ok not hassling and arguing with her.
The concept of the “traditional marriage” was conceived long before our current first world advantages. Setting up autopay, online bank accounts, credit cards, debit cards etc. You used to have to actively balance a checkbook, write checks or physically go pay your bills in person with cash and wait in line to do so, visit the bank weekly in person often, order checks etc. Matt’s entire job being able to be “set up on autopay” and then he doesn’t even have the maturity to check for confirmation emails, check to see if their bank balance is going down….how is he managing anything? Truly he obviously has no idea where their money is going, when the balance is going down or at all….he’s not managing anything. He’s gotten the easy way out because he thinks setting up bills on autopay is the extent of his “traditional job”.
Matt reminds me of my ex husband. I'm so grateful that I was able to get therapy to help me realize how toxic our relationship was. I'm healthier and happier as a single mom than I ever was married to him.
I took 45 steps today .
Im only 2 weeks out from knee replacement surgery off all pain meds major won
Congrats !!🎉
Heck yes! Take those steps! 🚶
Congrats I hope your knee gets better
So, about the formula fight where Matt left the hospital:
This was after the birth of their second child. She has done this before. As far I remember she also breastfed their first. From his tiktok this was within the first day after birth. In his tiktok he says "I just wanted the baby fed, and she wanted to breastfeed"... as if she was letting their child starve.
He was right in that scenario. She placed her postpartum desires over the baby's well-being. A fed baby is best.
@@ChyGNOIf it had been later on after the birth then yes but this was right after she gave birth. The baby doesn’t need a lot of food right after birth so it is fine if she needed it a day or two for the breastfeeding to pick up. So yes he was making her feel bad for something he didn’t even seem to understand.
@@ataraxia8114 I don't quite agree with you. I'm a mom of 2, both C-sections. While the woman did the bulk of the work, postpartum period is not easy for the man either. There was absolutely no need for her to keep insisting on breastfeeding while the baby was hungry and fussy. Fussiness in babies creates a very tense and overstimulated atmosphere. I love Abby, but she was in the wrong there.
@@ChyGNOshe really wasn’t
@@ChyGNO also mom of 2. Breastfed the first combo fed the 2nd so obviously not against formula but colostrum is all the baby needs for the first day or 2 until milk comes in. The baby was NOT starving. Breastfeeding is hard in the beginning for mom and baby matt needed to give them time and he didnt. Abby was not wrong here. Now if the baby was actually in distress (i e losing weight, too few wet/stooled diapers) that would be different. But they were fine and he just had to have his little " i know whats best" moment.
Regarding 26:20
The issue for me is not that Abby cleans the rotten pumpkins but that when Matt is disgusted by them, he can't handle the chore and hands it off.
That's childish. Does Abby all the icky chores because Matt is disgusted by normal household stuff? She is like a mom in that situation.
She probably is disgusted too but knows that somebody has to do it and he won't.
I pray their child is not neuro spicy in any way because god forbid he has ADHD it's going to be a rough upbringing if forgetting your home work is considered disrespect
Neuro "spicy" ??? 😭😭😭
Im neurodivergent and i hate that term for some reason
@@alexandradeutsch6881 Same
This couple is so weird, my husband and I are the same age as them and we’ve been together since high school, we had some very immature moments growing up sure but that was years ago. We’ve been married for 4 years and our dynamic is nothing like this. It does make me feel like it gives younger married people a bad look. Matt just gives me the major ick 😬
I have no poor opinion of people that get married young, I was engaged young. I think with them a big factor seems to be how they were raised/their beliefs and the mindset they have about relationships as a result. They said that they’ve stayed together because divorce is not an option in their marriage.. it just seems that if they didn’t have that viewpoint they wouldn’t necessarily stay in it
@@rosiehippieI can definitely see that!
I have no issue with young people in a healthy relationship getting married, but I’m wondering the reasons behind these two wanting to get married so young. I’m wondering if it was the physical side more than the emotional.
I had never heard of them but damn, their relationship seems hellish.
It definitely doesn’t seem like one I’d want to be in!
Right??? Do they like each other?????
We 6$y we e😊@@BHaney
I think their relationship looks great actually I don't know where you guys are getting this and kinda blowing things outta proportion not everybody's relationship is like yours or how you think it should be
@@BurntMcgurntThat relationship isn’t great. As you get older you realise what you are willing to put up. I wouldn’t touch a guy like Matt, and she’s a fool and naive for accepting the way he talks to and about her!
My parents were alllll about consequences, i faced the consequences of my own actions completely on my own, and what I learned is that I don’t need my parent’s support. I can face anything on my own. There is good and bad that comes from this.
It’s good because I am very independent and am confident that I can handle a crisis situation, but its bad because I don’t really know how to ask for help, I usually do not ask for help until I am completely desperate and broken down, which sucks for me, but also for whoever I am asking because by the time I’ve asked them its a full on crisis, but if I had asked for help sooner then whoever generously wanted to offer their assistance could have stopped the crisis from happening in the first place.
Mu point is, raising your child in a way where they face every consequence of their actions with no assistance (from the people who are supposed to love and care for them), it can create a dysfunctional adult who believes the world is on their shoulders.
P.s. I am no contact with my parents for almost 3 years now. Treat your children with compassion and respect.
Family/Couples vlogging is very much "why would you ever put this online: the genre".
One hundreddd percent!
I feel like, especially in the clip about the marriage counseling, Abby says how she feels but immediately backpedals by saying just kidding. She said something along the lines of Matt being worried about selling the house because of finances and he says “no!” And she laughs and says just kidding. I know it happened in other points in just the clips you show. I hope she gets individual therapy too to work through why she doesn’t have that confidence in herself.
I noticed that too, she’s usually hedging with a “just kidding” when she says something that isn’t in line with him.
WFTW: I'm about to finish crocheting my first adult sized sweater! It was finished except for the ribbing for months, and this week I finally figured out how to make it work. I'm a huge sweater girlie, so hopefully this is the first of many!
I love sweaters! Wish I could do that! Congrats
Congratulations!!!! 🎉
That’s so exciting!! How cool to be able to make that with your own hands 💛
What does WFTW mean? I’m racking my brain trying to figure this out and I can’t come up with anything that makes sense
Please & thank you
@@Sassfire Win for the week. I don't know if anyone else uses it, it just makes sense to me. 🤭
On the bringing your kids their homework topic, both my parents worked there was no way my parents would’ve been able to bring me my homework at school if I forgot it so I don’t think this stance is the end of the world. However, I think if this is a problem your kid is consistently having, as a parent you should be working on that with them, set up a time right before bed where you make sure everything is set for the next day, make a check list if you have to.
I had a really hard transition into middle school and one of my teachers didn’t like me at all. I was constantly getting in trouble for not having my homework in her class. My parents knew I’d done the homework so we started problem solving, we checked each night that the homework was in my folder and in my bag. I still couldn’t find it during class, we figured it was an organization issue, bought an accordion file folder so I could set up a system. I still couldn’t find it when the time came. It turned out I hadn’t been forgetting my homework, the stress of having a teacher I knew already disliked me waiting for my homework meant that I was always in such a panic searching for it that I flipped right past it. We created a special spot in the front just for my homework for that class so there was nothing to search through and that finally solved the issue.
Problems with kids aren’t as simple as they’ll learn from the consequences and won’t do that again, every kid is different and you need to work with your kid based on their needs. For me the consequences just put me more on edge the next day, the more times I failed to hand in the homework the more I panicked, it was a vicious cycle. Give your kid the tools to handle the problem going forward and they can learn to implement them on their own later on.
I grew up in a "consequences will make her work out how to fix the problem" family. One particularly ridiculous example is refusing to write a note that said they'd seen a progress report (that they'd seen). I had to write "I will return my progress report" 800 times during many recesses. It did not help me remember things and just made me anxious.
Adult me knows I have ADHD, and a little help would have saved me so much sadness, frustration, self-hatred, etc.
Reading how much your parents tried to help you healed a little part of my inner child. Thanks for sharing.
This isn’t a job for kids anyway! It’s the parent’s job to remember that the kid has homework and make sure it’s in the kid’s backpack before they leave the house in the morning. The kid will slowly take over that kind of thing as they get older but for a young kid it’s always ultimately the parent’s job.
Once they get to high school, they would find it annoying to have their parents always checking in “is your homework done? Did you put it in your backpack? Are you sure?” And teenagers also don’t want parents looking inside their backpacks, so by that time it’s 100% the kid’s job. But if they do forget it, it would still make sense for the parent to bring it to school if possible.
It’s SAD that we’re not talking about he works, she handles kids/house which is already off kilter but he does the finances I take care of everything else is WILD!! Criminal!! Between auto pay, e-banking where you can swipe a finger & pay a bill them BOTH working for social media it’s maybe an hour a month & she still had to find out about that going wrong. Taking care of 2 small kids, cooking, cleaning & taking care of yourself vs paying bills is insane. She works more in a DAY than him in a YEAR then hours wise. What they show is lie the reality of the trad wife movement cuz this is what it’s like behind the scenes with that profile of couple. A woman working her ass off cleaning constantly & everything kids need with a guy who emotionally unavailable, entitled & ungrateful for all she does.
not to mention, he doesn't really work. his "work" is in the online sphere and a large portion of their income comes from videos that abby creates! i have a hard time believing they would be making any money without abby.
Traditional marriage roles are for dads that work 40 hours and do stuff around the house and fix things not pay someone or in Matt's case not pay someone. Gives Traditional relationships a bad name.
@@zachmalone428 Exactly, I'm a student and pay my parents house bills( cause they don't know online) and all you need to do is add the card password and the bills are paid online automatically for literally anything!!!... There a difference between working 9-5 and social media. Him justifying that he is paying the bills that's the reason he isn't doing home chores is so stupid.
The irony is matt himself is forgetful. He has adhd, his kid most likely will also. I'm in my 30s and forget things all the time. I can't help it as I too have adhd. Our family helps each other
he gets defensive about his forgetfulness though
I’m late dx ADHD. Being an adult and aware of your brain’s shortcomings, you do have some influence. You’re not entirely helpless there. I have a basket with all my fun job items. I keep chargers in each room and in the car. I do routines like key hooks so my keys are in the same place.
There’s nuance in everything but I feel like saying “I can’t help it” is too much absolving yourself of any responsibility. If you know there is something important, there are so many options for systems you can implement. For example, you can say right now, Alexa set a timer for 4 hours and remind me to search for ADHD resources on how to mitigate being forgetful.
Meds also make a difference for I think over 80% of people with ADHD. (Yeah I know they can be expensive and sometimes hard to access). But we aren’t just out there in the wilderness alone with our broken brains. We’ve got tons of resources in 2024.
What’s sad about these two is that when they started out on TikTok you can tell they were both innocent and cute and that’s how they exploded. Matt let it get to his head and now strives for attention whether it’s positive or negative because he gets his validation through his followers. Abby strives for validation through Matt. He has gained a resentment towards Abby because her platform is bigger and is there AD Queen and makes most of their money even though social media was his idea not hers. I wonder how it will all end? 😂
Win For The Week:
I finished a draft for another book. I'm very tired after several late nights, but incredibly proud of myself for sticking to my goals.
This is AMAZING! Congratulations on all of your hard work… and here’s to hoping that, one day, you can come back here and tell us that you’ve been published. Creativity is a wonderful thing. Good luck! Dream big! ✨ x
Wftw - my partner and i adopted a very shy cat and hes coming out of his shell more quickly than expected ❤
that's so cute! it made my day ✨️
What's wftw
I wish all three of you many happy years together!
Matt seems like a high schooler
More like middle schooler
@@MelissaKitto525😂😂😂
Either way, it embarrassing hes a grown man
I also live in Phoenix! About a year ago I actually sat next to Matt and abbey on a flight! They were really sweet to each other and the other people on the flight, but that was just a small look into their lives. I agree their content is worrysome 😅
What a weird coincidence you sat by them!
Girll it a maskkk
The bill thing is wild to me, it makes me wonder if this has something to do with being more wealthy. Because I am pay check to pay check and I know exactly when all of my bills are coming out and need to be paid. Would be so nice to just not even be aware of that lol 😅
Right?? I have my bank alerts set to anything over $5, even if a bill is only $30 I would notice if it didn't get paid.
I find it weird because even if you are rich, you can put things on autopay. At least in Europe. I always paid everything that is recurrent on autopay like rent etc. So I do not get it.
The messing with her at the worst possible times, putting her down as “jokes,” expecting her to do absolutely everything while he does the bare minimum and expects praise for that, constant disrespect and thinking she’s wrong about everything until someone else (usually a dude…) backs her up….UGH I’m getting flashbacks! Reminds me so so very much of my ex fiancé, who (big shock) was also both of our first “real relationship” (his first relationship at all; I had had a couple casual high school boyfriends prior) end of high school and all through college. The “have you ever thought about kissing other girls” was a convo we had as well, because I was worried that if we went forward with the wedding he would eventually resent me for him never getting the experience of dating other people.
It’s such a bizarre experience watching their videos and I honestly feel bad for her.
Ugh I’m so sorry you can relate to these dynamics! Very glad that’s your EX fiancé 💛
@@BHaney girl meeee too!! Any stray “what if” feelings are immediately obliterated after watching any clips of Matt & Abby lmao. Especially after going through therapy, learning more about what toxicity actually looks like (finally learning what “negging” is was like the ultimate click moment for me lol) and overall seeing first hand through different experiences that not all men treated their partners that way…ugh it makes my skin crawl to think about still being treated like that and SO thankful we didn’t go through with it. I know for a fact that there’s so much I wouldn’t have been able to accomplish in my life, both emotionally and and like career-wise, had I stayed in that relationship: that type of treatment really breaks you down and steals so much of your self confidence that it’s night and day comparing myself now to the shell of who I was when I was with him!
My partner and I didn't notice we weren't paying the water bill for almost 6 months before I realized, BUT we also both work full time (plus overtime) and share all household tasks, so it's a lot more reasonable that we'd miss it. Bills are Matts only chore it seems.
They’re too young and immature for so much responsibility. Neither of them are fully grown up imo
Matt seems like such a child. I could never put up with a husband like this. He seems like somebody who hasn't matured past a middle school or high school mindset, which is awful and embarrassing on its own, but he's got a wife and kids who depend on him. Grow up and step up for your family!
I’ve had to block them on all platforms. I truly believe he is psychologically abusing her. The things he says are more than awful. They live with her parents or maybe did, thank goodness. She married someone that only cares about the status of having a wife and children, not actually being a good caring husband.
55:04 - The fact that she thinks she “failed” him. She did not fail at anything!! He is the worst and such an egotistical ass.
The forgetting homework thing is one of the things I can actually offer my two cents. (all the other things is just wild and i don't have the energy to do a full rant) I have adhd and so does my mom. We forget things all the time. My mom has been there to bring in my homework (when I was younger, now since I'm in highschool I've learned to deal). But she has brought in my computer, my meds, my lunch. I do not disrespect her, if anything I have more respect. Her being there to help me every single day no matter what I need makes me feel so greatful. I am so lucky to have a mom like her. Someone who doesn't make me feel horrible for forgetting something.
I really feel like Abby is trapped in that marriage. I mean, their entire lifestyle/income is dependent on their marriage. Plus if they did get a divorce, Matt definitely doesn’t seem like the type of guy to willingly and peacefully pay adequate alimony (because we all know the channel isn’t going to Abby) or help take care of the children (because he already doesn’t). I used to watch their channel around the time they started and judging from some of the things I’ve heard them say about marriage and other aspects of life, Abby would likely be harshly judged if she did leave. Plus, neither one of them knows how to function as an adult on their own because they literally never have. I don’t agree with a lot of things Abby has said/done in the past but my heart truly breaks for her.
I feel like they’re slowly becoming more and more like the toxic dynamic of the ACE family and lots of other family channels. This is one of the biggest issues with family channels. Not only do they exploit their kids and their spouses but they become so used to it that they just don’t give a crap about anyone else’s feelings. Like imagine your significant other in pain and hurting but seeing nothing but dollar signs. Disgusting.
Matt is still a child. He never grew up and Abby had to because she has three children (Matt being one of them) to take of. Also the fact he does these mean spirited things especially when she is sick, recovering or mad shows he doesn't care about her feelings at all.
I have never watched them and after seeing this I don't think I ever will. Matt is the worst! The way Abby apologizes when she doesn't have to makes me scared for her. And I get what you're saying about Abby should know what's going on with their finances, but at the same time if that's his one and only household chore and she is doing absolutely everything else it really sucks that he can't do that one thing.
Oh for sure, she SHOULD be able to trust him with their money especially since it’s the only household thing he’s responsible for. I’d just hate for her to be completely blindsided with something more severe than not paying the water bill.
His children must learn Consequences of FORGETTING things ... Forgets to pay water bill for 6 months.
The crazy thing about him hating on fathers day is theres people whos birthday falls on thanksgiving sometimes or easter or their birthday is just on christmas when everyone is preoccupied with the other holiday but at least he actually IS a father?? So the holiday honors him and thats still not enough???
Win of the week: I talked to my mother in person for the first time since 2015 after I had gotten a restraining order. I thought it was a dumb idea to get closure and felt I didn't deserve it since alot of people don't get and move forward. I was afraid of being let down and of being hurt again. But it was the first time in my life in which someone from my biological family had respected my boundaries and stayed respectful and caring. She was so grateful that I had shown up and given her a chance to show that she was trying hard to heal and grow.
God bless our journey may the Lord protect us and allow us to forgive and grow.
Win for the week: finally got accommodations booked for traveling late next week to see my aging grandma. So excited to spend some time with her, and possibly my aunt/uncle/cousins I haven’t seen since I was a kid.
Re Abby's relationship with their finances: In our marriage, I (F) am the one who handles the budgeting/bill-paying/saving/investing. I'm more detail-oriented and I work in finance, so it just makes sense to play to our strengths. But you better believe I make sure that my husband is in the loop for all of that. We both know that it's the perfect conditions for financial abuse if one partner has no clue about what the other is doing with their joint finances. Also, the number of widows I work with on a weekly basis who have no clue about their finances since their husband always took care of it makes me never want that for my spouse should he out-live me.
All that to say, your thoughts on all of that really struck a chord. You do you when it comes to division of labor, but there is no reason to not know how to do all of it if push came to shove (and I would argue the same thing with Matt and household chores, but that's a different conversation...).
im glad people are finally talking aout them cause theyve been stressing me out for years 😭
On your “I don’t do some of the gross stuff” comment, I totally agree! There is so much room within a relationship to say “I don’t wanna do that more than you don’t want to” My partner takes care of the bugs in our house, and I can take care of food that’s gone off. I am so happy to not have to deal with bugs, he even makes the appointments for the exterminator. I think the line is “I won’t do this ever” instead of “I would really appreciate NOT doing this”
This gave me so much secondhand embarrassment I dissociated most of the video 😭
14:22 His take doesn’t address any possibility of neurodivergence. Things like ADHD can make it almost impossible for kids to remember things.
funny thing is I’m pretty sure HE has adhd
I'm so happy to see you covering them as there is a lot more to uncover in the Christian adjacent space. I stumbled upon their videos on ticktock early into their posting and haven't been able to look away since (i'm definitely not their target audience). Their whole lives seem incredibly sheltered and over time Matt's extreme desire for attention and Abby's need for a slow quiet life seems to be ripping them apart. They seem like a sheltered fundy adjacent couple with all the same baggage I see time and time again. The stronger accusations get against his negative public persona the harder she throws herself into the flames by "standing by her man" and "traditional headship" while giving him little accountability for his actions. There have been displays from very early on that give red flags for future heartache even in the early days were they posted a lot of what I would label "great husband fanfic" content. I actually enjoy their podcast for the variety of guests (even though they are not great interviewers) and am not strickly a snarker, but there are major things that seep out that are deeply rooted in religious upbringing that is incredibly toxic.
my win for the week is looking into getting a new dog and my mom is starting chemo on Wednesday
I hope the chemo goes alright for your mom
I hope you find an awesome dog and chemo goes well for your mom! 💛
@@BHaney thank you !! i think we have found a dog but we are going to visit at the shelter on Thursday to see if he's a match
How are you all doing? I know cancer is rough on the whole family, so I hope you're all okay ❤@@petermademegay
Having a baby is one of the most emotionally, mentally and physically taxing time for a woman. She needs unconditional support, no questions asked. It sounds like her husband was more concerned with himself and his needs. Breastfeeding can be very challenging, and you need Encouragement to keep working at it. Women are absolutely AMAZING Creatures 💜 I'm sorry she had to deal with such a Man Baby.
i discovered them 3 years ago when i was thinking about getting an iud. abby got one and made a video about her experience with it. one of the questions she got asked is about the effectiveness of the iud, and i remember her saying something along the lines of ‘well if you can’t handle the consequences of having sex then don’t have’. i honestly found that comment to be off putting and i wrote her and matt off as fundies. matt kinda comes across as a typical fundie man imo
I have this weird feeling that Abby brings out untouched topics on the podcast because Matt doesn't actually talk about things like this in private. I don't know if that's what this is, but it's disturbing 😢
My win is my son turned 5 months. I had PPD the first 3 months so finally I feel better and the milestones at this age are so fun
That’s really awesome! 🩷
"Doing the finances just isnt that hard" - said no person with adhd ever
If you tell your wife that you are taking care of it, you should at least hire someone to do it. She is basically a single mom with two small children, so Yeah can be difficult with adhd, but then maybe he should be doing the childcare and let her do the bills.
It’s 2024 - everything is on autopay. (I have adhd).
I recently saw a clip where they explained that they had to use Matt’s credit alone to buy their house because Abby accidentally ruined her credit. She said she had signed up for Duolingo on monthly autopay and then never paid that credit card…which she claims she didn’t know until it went to collections. As a result, her credit was ruined. So then to buy a house and not have learned your lesson, to the point that your water is shut off? It’s insane to me.
I also don’t understand how neither of them were more careful with their budget in the first few months of being in their house. A new house means your budget totally changes, and it can take a few months to figure out where everything lands. Now that we’ve been in our house for years, it’s easy because I know how much everything costs. But when you just moved into a house, you’re starting over in a lot of budget categories. And for neither of them to be aware enough to notice that you’re missing a whole category from your budget doesn’t make sense to me at all! I triple checked everything our first few months of owning just to make sure this didn’t happen to us. I think that’s a very normal, adult thing to do?
Don’t forget that after the Father’s Day clip, they posted a video where he said they were celebrating their anniversary AND her birthday on the same day
So funny him talking about responsibility. Laughable really he told on himself with the waterbill... lmfao
There’s no way this marriage will last.
It makes me more mad that they’re supposedly Christian. He is very selfish and lacks that relationship with Christ.
Because for him to have a relationship with God you aren’t selfish anymore, you put the needs of others before yourself, you are selfless, etc. he doesn’t love her. He loves himself
My husband's birthday is sometimes on Mother's Day. And the way that man celebrates me that day/weekend instead of himself (we celebrate his birthday either the weekend before or the Friday of that weekend).
I could NEVER have a man child like this.
YOOO THE LINT!! I was waiting for someone to say this😂
so many of these clips I’m like “wait should I even be here? This feels weird me listening to such a vulnerable moment” . I for sure wouldn’t want people hearing me work through certain things w my spouse 😅
i'm only 15 minutes in at the part where Matt talks about not bringing his kid's homework to school and i'm laughing at his little "when i forget something i deal with the consequences" tyrant because all i can think about is the video they posted about him forgetting to pay their water bill for like 9 MONTHS STRAIGHT?
The grossest thing I did recently was clean up a nest of dead decomposing baby doves. I was soooo annoyed my husband did not take care of it. And it was in a very difficult place. I had to stand on a ledge and the nest was close to the ceiling, meaning my face had to get up close. And the worst was that I put bricks so there wouldn’t be a new nest. Sometime after, my husband knowing the disgustingness I took care of, removed the bricks without putting a replacement or telling me. I only found out when hearing/seeing a new nest being constructed. I lost my mind at him.
The fact that he can’t count to two is major 🚩 🚩 Seriously though, no one should be filmed when they’re not feeling good especially when they’ve just had surgery. Then to play a “prank” on them during that time just seems really mean. He seems very emotionally checked out.
My win for the week is that I’m officially over halfway in my pregnancy AND managed to get my handmade biz in a store in a different state! What a week!
I will always clean up gross things because my husband is so queasy. I'd rather clean up one mess than have to clean up his puke as well lmao! He usually gives it his best shot, and if he can handle it he does before asking for my help. I usually don't mind.
I’ve been waiting to see someone cover Matt and Abby and I’m so excited it’s B!
Kiki Chanel just did a vid on them recently. It’s called worst husband or something lol.
My win for the week is that we went on a wonderful vacation with my parents and afterward we were able to make the 12 hour drive home yesterday in one day, and our 5yo and 3yo did incredibly well.
They either make things up to create drama to get more views, or all of it is real. I always feel bad seeing Abby crying on camera. Imagine your husband putting a camera in your face instead of comforting you
Same. The whole birthday thing sounded strange and artificial. I am wondering if they made it up.
On the forgetting your homework thing, I can PARTIALLY see where Matt is coming from. If my child was in high school and forgot their HW every once in a while, then okay, no big deal. We all get overwhelmed, tired, or just simply forget things sometimes but if this is a CONSTANT thing that your child doesn't remember to bring it with them or doesn't make it a priority then I can understand telling them I will no longer be bringing you your HW. It is now your responsibility. If your child just forgets their HW though and then you immediately say "well sorry you're going to fail." That's an issue lol
PSA donate your Halloween pumpkins to people who have pigs.
I'm 2:20 into the first video of yours iv ever watched and your voice and energy is amazing you are amazing ❤❤so glad I found this channel ❤️ 😊 💖 💜
I said this on another video and I will say it again. They need to grow up without cameras and have their disagreements without an audience. They need to resolve things between them before they air it to the public and they just need to focus on them and their family. We all make relationship mistakes when we are young. They are making some big and small mistakes with some being potentially toxic. They need to step away from the cameras and get on with growing up!
as a mother of two who is physically incapable of delivering babies and can only have c-sections, to hear that a man asked his wife in the hospital bed if she feels like she cheated childbirth by having a c section genuinely makes me want to cry. i struggled so much and still do knowing that i was unable to birth my children that way i wanted to and knowing there are people out there who thinks we took the easy way out makes me sick and angry. matt is a disgusting man and abby deserves so much better.
That sounds horrible to go through, I hope you're doing okay! My thought while reading your comment was that your body grew and nurtured your children for 9 months and they (hopefully) got birthed, c-section or not, as healthy babies and it doesn't seem to change anything about you as a mother. I hope I don't come across as condescending or as a know-it-all because I'm aware it's something super personal. Wishing you all the best!