How To Train Your Spinal Erectors THE RIGHT WAY

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  • @jamok3
    @jamok3 2 года назад +430

    I've learned that as long as I do every exercise wrong, I can always hit my lower back.

    • @CankleCankle
      @CankleCankle 2 года назад +50

      Barbell curls in the squat rack for huge erectors

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +38

      ✅✅✅✅

    • @2000grover
      @2000grover 2 года назад +7

      @@CankleCankle yes!!!!! Curls for the girls !!!!!

    • @SOC-ir6im
      @SOC-ir6im 2 года назад +4

      LMAO!

    • @jamok3
      @jamok3 2 года назад +33

      @@CankleCankle my top exercises: bridging bench press, goodmorning squat, hitching deadlift, and standing incline press. These will hit your lower back from all angles.

  • @landerhendrickx3522
    @landerhendrickx3522 2 года назад +33

    1. Double overhand deficit sumo deadlifts
    2. Hanging kettlebell loaded good mornings
    3. Reverse hyperextension

  • @brettduce5243
    @brettduce5243 2 года назад +19

    Every episode from you switches on another light bulb for me. It all makes sense and helps eliminate my weak links. Thank you.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +3

      💯💯💯💯💯 please join patreon my my friend we need your support
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  • @rudolphrictor5167
    @rudolphrictor5167 2 года назад +11

    To be honest if there was literally only one area to train for your entire life that would give the most health benefits/pain reduction, it would have to be lower back for me. Legs and arms you can go about your life without them being jacked (obviously you wanna be strong/healthy) but lower back being strong will probably have the most benefits for just regular life that i can think of

  • @noalions5694
    @noalions5694 2 года назад +6

    If every leader in the army had this knowledge we'd be sick af

  • @KillianDefaoite
    @KillianDefaoite 2 года назад +8

    The BIGGEST mistake people make when it comes to avoiding back pain, is not training their lower back!!

  • @tkempinski
    @tkempinski 2 года назад +16

    As always, awesome content! Thanks for all the knowledge Matt! Had back surgery not too long ago, listening too you has helped tremendously!

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +7

      Trying my best man!! We would love ya on online coaching to help
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    • @tkempinski
      @tkempinski 2 года назад +2

      Truly appreciate it! I am on pateon following along!

  • @WenningStrength
    @WenningStrength  2 года назад +3

    Please share - repost and help the channel my friends!!! Much appreciated 🙏🙏🙏

  • @MoreBuffMoreMuff
    @MoreBuffMoreMuff 2 года назад +29

    Deadlifts are my fave movement. 90% of the time I go conventional. Love deficits. LOVE RDLs. Play around w sumo at the end sometimes. Really feel it in my upper back. 100% of the time I am double overhand. I never use the power grip for 2 reasons. 1) the imbalances it causes as you've pointed out before. 2) I'm honestly scared to tear my bicep on the under hand because I feel like I would try to curl my arm to get weight up and locked out.
    But if you think once you can do 405lbs overhand, you can try mix grip, maybe I'll F around with it. You never point us in the wrong direction.
    Also, ZINC and ALGO!
    KILLING IT, MATT!

  • @mblifts594
    @mblifts594 2 года назад +5

    Probably the best for real training info. Thanks!

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 please share and repost videos

  • @oscar54321
    @oscar54321 2 года назад +4

    thanks for the video, especially for taking the time to explain and teach before stating all the exercises

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      Yes sir!!! Please consider patreon and help us with the channel 🙏🙏
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  • @PLeonard71
    @PLeonard71 Год назад +4

    This is a very helpful video regarding how to build the foundation of your body- your back, specifically your spinal erectors. The famous strength author Bill Starr was a military corpsman and he once was involved in viewing an autopsy at which they were unable to saw through the cadavers spinal erectors. Matt’s knowledge here will build such a bulletproof back.

  • @jerrodfuell8358
    @jerrodfuell8358 2 года назад +3

    Bamboo bar good mornings. 🤔Definitely going to try this out. Thanks for the new idea Matt. As usual your experience and knowledge is eye opening.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      🙏🙏🙏 thank you!! If possible please support patreon
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  • @011keepers
    @011keepers Год назад +1

    I like the intro with you education and experience, so many of the fitness people have 0.00 of anything and just repeat what the other guy said.

  • @jacobski7216
    @jacobski7216 2 года назад +14

    To really train and hit your spinal erectors HARD you should do some kind of shoulder flexion -> extension exercises ie rounding your back on purpose at the bottom lift and extending your back all the way up, because this is the only way you can train the spinal erectors through their full range of motion and really "isolate" them as much as that is possible. Hyperextensions or cable rows/long pulley rows with your back being stretched and rounded at the bottom would be the safest ways of doing it. You can see a lot of advanced lifters both powerlifters and olympic weightlifters including those who've been world champions doing various rounded back deadlift variants like stiff leg deadlifts and stiff leg snatch grip deadlifts often on a deficit in order to hit their spinal erectors and posterior chain in their more fuller ROM. For example both Dan Green and Dimitri Klokov both champions in their own sports would work themselves up to doing heavy deficit stiff leg deadlifts with rounded backs. You can even see Chinese and Korean weightlifters regularly doing things like Good Mornings with fully rounded backs just to build strong spinal erectors. A lot of advanced lifters do this just so that they can prepare their back muscles ie spinal structures and all the supporting structures like ligaments etc for the eventuality that their form should break down on heavier lifts and their back inevitably starts to round just so that their backs are already somewhat used and adapted to this movement in order to prevent injuries.
    And for some things like Strongman then it is impossible to do for example the stone lifts without a rounded back and so these people need to train their spinal erectors dynamically in flexion as well. The same goes for a lot of manual labour which are impossible to do without spinal flexion/rounded backs under load.
    As a bonus from doing dynamic exercises for the spinal erectors like those I mentioned you WILL get really beefy spinal erectors and bring them out in ways that many lifters do not have because they never perform movements like these. Of course you have to be very respectful of doing rounded back movements like these and ALWAYS start with very light weight and only gradually increase very slowly to allow your spinal erectors and supporting tissues to grow and adapt to be strong and flexible enough to being able to do these type of movements and carrying a load with a flexed spine without getting injured.
    And yes in your video too you were also doing some lumbar flexion in the good mornings and reverse hyperextensions which again is so GOOD to do for the spinal erectors. I know Loui Simmons the inventor of the reverse hyper machine also recommended doing good mornings with a rounded back to help proof it against injuries. That crazy old lad did go a bit too heavy on those a couple of times and broke his back, same with Bruce Lee. 😂🥺 So you always have to show a lot of respect for these type of movements and warm up properly even if you're otherwise very strong in it. Anyway both myself and many other lifters I know have much healthier backs after adding some exercise for training spinal flexion under load which trains the spinal erectors in their full ROM, and again as a bonus we tend to have way beefier spinal erectors than many other lifters and get compliments on our back thickness. 😎

  • @dougbugger7665
    @dougbugger7665 2 года назад +3

    Phenomenal video Matthew

  • @robertpanetta7912
    @robertpanetta7912 2 месяца назад +1

    Good tips but the good morning machine and the last back machine most gyms don’t have . Deficit deadlifts can be done anywhere and is beneficial for sure . I will start doing them . Thank you so much

  • @ptyzeppelin
    @ptyzeppelin 2 года назад +5

    Amazing and true as always, you can have many muscle damage and supplement with some exercises, but a bad spinal, you can practically do, NOTHING

  • @anthonybartolotta3469
    @anthonybartolotta3469 2 года назад +1

    Thx. Always great stuff!

  • @swat061
    @swat061 2 года назад +3

    Excellente vidéo , merci matt 👌🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @danebwhitaker
    @danebwhitaker 2 года назад +4

    Favorite channel to learn from 💪💪

  • @spiritofogun5583
    @spiritofogun5583 Год назад +1

    So much great information thanks man.

  • @jonathanvargas1448
    @jonathanvargas1448 2 года назад +6

    And yet most gyms will never have a reverse hyper extension. And promote staying from big lifts like the sumo.

  • @christopherseat9871
    @christopherseat9871 2 года назад +1

    Excellent session.....Thankyou ♥️💪🏋️‍♂️🥇🥈🥉

  • @jeffdillard8789
    @jeffdillard8789 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info I am in need of this

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      Yep !!! Just consider joining patreon 💯💯 could use all the help I can get
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  • @zachgregory1289
    @zachgregory1289 2 года назад +3

    Ugh I need a reverse hyper. It just makes so much sense.

  • @charleswheeler141
    @charleswheeler141 2 года назад +5

    I heard somewhere that Russian lifters would hug the other lifters before a meet. They would put 1 hand on the small of the back so they could feel the spinal erectors of their competition. Not sure if it's true but sounds like a good story.

  • @lordtimothy9740
    @lordtimothy9740 10 месяцев назад +2

    Like the mssge on the desk

  • @stilltrying4435
    @stilltrying4435 Год назад +1

    Great stuff

  • @noalions5694
    @noalions5694 2 года назад +2

    Changed my life and kept me healthy

  • @Pibodabo
    @Pibodabo 2 года назад +2

    Not the sexiest of muscle groups but definitely the most important one! 👑

  • @noalions5694
    @noalions5694 2 года назад +2

    The GOD the zues of strength training

  • @lawrencebolt3540
    @lawrencebolt3540 Год назад +1

    That last workout station was a gem 👌

  • @slicktrips
    @slicktrips 2 года назад +13

    Ive always had a strong back but recently (past 4 months) ive been training my erectors a lot, 3 days ago i went to squat 50 pounds under my all time max the bar rolled on me (found out later the bar had a slight bend that caused it) and it turned in to the heaviest good morning i had ever done lol, the importance of building the spinal erectors isn't talked about enough, and the pumps are down right brutal first time i ever felt them pumping i thought i messed my lower back up

  • @patrickjulius7352
    @patrickjulius7352 2 года назад +3

    I like zercher squats and zercher good mornings too. And band good mornings for high rep.

  • @brycemeche8516
    @brycemeche8516 Год назад +1

    Hey Matt, I would love to hear how you program reverse hypers into your training routine. This is something that I’m generally curious to hear from you about!

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  Год назад +2

      Come on patreon see the workouts or check out the manuals. Huge help

  • @noel3238
    @noel3238 2 года назад +3

    Crazy how you make these videos at the right time! My lady just noticed my pvc pipes were uneven (not by much) how can I make them even?

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +2

      Come ask on patreon brother!! It’s how we support the channel 💪💪💪💪
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  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Good Morning

  • @kristianjakowicz666
    @kristianjakowicz666 2 года назад +2

    Why follow Matt? Leads from the front. Very few do that these days!! Will always support!

  • @davidboye6186
    @davidboye6186 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for the awesome content, i honestly thought 45 degree back extensions was gonna be mentioned in there, anyways keep up the good work 💪

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +4

      Yep great ones !!!! Just keeping content fresh

  • @Kevinkingmma
    @Kevinkingmma 2 года назад +4

    I credit the reverse hyper for reaching 500+ deadlift

  • @user-ud2pu8ij6b
    @user-ud2pu8ij6b 2 года назад +2

    🤣😂🤣 Matt says he is retired then goes on to rip most dudes 1rm off the floor like he was mocking somebody, you ain't human Matt you are part machine!

  • @LeeH3nson
    @LeeH3nson 2 года назад +2

    For the algorithm mate 👍🏾

  • @MatthieuAmherst
    @MatthieuAmherst 2 года назад

    Gonna do deficit sumos! I've been doing snatchgrip deadlifts exclusively for spinal erectors.

  • @conorphelan9004
    @conorphelan9004 Год назад +4

    i feel like another reason spinal erectors struggle to grow is because most exercises only train them isometrically

  • @dschroeda
    @dschroeda Год назад +1

    Lmao at the Batman clip you inserted

  • @maanikgupta9477
    @maanikgupta9477 2 года назад +2

    Aye aye captain 💪

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

  • @creature363
    @creature363 Год назад +1

    Great content Matt but this music in the beginning is difficult 😂 you’re awesome though thanks for everything you do!

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Algo Matt Wenning

  • @Yeomannn
    @Yeomannn 2 года назад +4

    1:42 LMFAO

  • @KenanTurkiye
    @KenanTurkiye Год назад +1

    What you explained upto 2 min mark made so much sense, thank you.
    Than came the explanations about the exercises and they made even logic.
    (yes I am activelly out looking for erector spinae exercises, so you can guess the amount of pleasure this vid is giving me lol)
    A Q if you can have the time to answer:
    What's your take of sitting zercher thoracic curls, holding the bar above arms and curling the spine front and up front and up.
    Best wishes.

  • @Euduchaus
    @Euduchaus 2 года назад +3

    Hi Matt, awsome video! If i may ask, what do you think about back extensions when compared to that last one? I ask because we don't have acess to that machine over here in the gym. Thanks!

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      Ask on patreon my friend!!! These videos are time consuming and costly 💯💯💯

  • @pa1ad
    @pa1ad 2 года назад +1

    so nice to learn awesome exercises that I can only dreaM about because NO GYM IN MY AREA HAS ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +2

      I used to travel 3 hrs one way to squat -

    • @pa1ad
      @pa1ad 2 года назад

      @@WenningStrength I used to travel long distances back in the 90s to find journals that had articles I wanted to read, And I would travel for gyms too, Today you can get just about any article if you pay online, and there are more diverse gyns as well. , however I currenty dont have a license so i cant easily travel to other gyms

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Online Coaching

  • @bradaen
    @bradaen 2 года назад +2

    Outstanding. Especially when low back pain is a pandemic in itself

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Algorithm Matt Wenning

  • @Bz626
    @Bz626 2 года назад +2

    I have a whole playlist of videos dedicated to finessing reverse hyperextensions and GHRs in the gym because none of the gyms in my area have them. A damn shame

  • @Predator292
    @Predator292 2 года назад +2

    Hi Matt, great video! I'm new to your content but I will be watching more after two videos, this one and your 1RM recovery video.
    I believe years of longboarding has caused my left lower back to be thicker and bulbous (The leg I balance on) and my right side to be smaller as that leg is used to propel instead of to stabilize. I have done much less skateboarding the past couple of years, but this imbalance hasn't gone away naturally from general back training. I'm working up to a 405 deadlift right now and that side usually feels somewhat more sore than the smaller side after a session. Do you have any advice on training to correct a muscle imbalance in the spinal erectors? Do you ever isolate one side of the lower back in your training?

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +2

      Hey homie!!! Trying to direct questions to patreon as these videos are salty to post and edit 💪💪
      www.patreon.com/wenningstrength

    • @runemikkelsen3790
      @runemikkelsen3790 2 года назад +1

      I have experienced exactly the same imbalance from skateboarding. Would love a good answer

  • @Nancy-gc7pu
    @Nancy-gc7pu Год назад +1

    因為包覆在骨骼中,沒有大量血流流過
    向股四頭肌 他們透過小血管獲得大量食物
    一些通過淋巴系統 代表他們會生長得很緩慢
    更喜怒無常
    乳酸輸出到豎脊肌的小血管系統非常小
    導致他們需要很長時間 才能過濾掉任何類型的乳酸
    4:14
    5:03 早安槓林 對豎脊肌非常棒
    身體後側為後鍊
    屁股、腿筋必須發揮作用
    但早安槓林會給脊椎帶來很大壓力
    在不增加脊椎垂直下壓情況下 去訓練
    5:48 所以妳要用懸掛式壺玲
    6:19 不知道器材

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Rotational

  • @madtrader00
    @madtrader00 2 года назад +2

    Hivalue information 💪

  • @powskier
    @powskier 2 года назад +2

    What about kettlebell swings? Supposedly they restore and strengthen the lower back.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      What about patreon??? That’s where we do questions

  • @anabolicamaranth7140
    @anabolicamaranth7140 2 года назад +2

    I like deficit deads with a pause of at least 1.5 seconds a couple inches off the floor.

  • @noalions5694
    @noalions5694 2 года назад +2

    The god of strength

  • @matejkohut632
    @matejkohut632 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video, as always. :)

  • @mikehamilton9984
    @mikehamilton9984 Год назад +1

    Very good video. Anything different for strongman spinal erectors training ?

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  Год назад +1

      Come ask on patreon my friend 🙏 much appreciated
      wenningstrength.com/matt-wenning-patreon/

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Algo Matt

  • @sandhan1t1zer
    @sandhan1t1zer Год назад +2

    Great video brother but I got a question for you. Do you think that deadlifts are enough for the erectors? I already spend 1.5 hours in the gym a day so I’m trying to limit adding new exercises. My goal is to strengthen it enough that my resting posture improves

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  Год назад +1

      Hey homie we try to answer questions on patreon to help with these videos. Hope to see ya there
      www.patreon.com/wenningstrength

  • @thefuuuaaaarkkkkkguy
    @thefuuuaaaarkkkkkguy 2 года назад +3

    Bro just ego lift zercher deadlifts flex 💪

  • @klevdavful
    @klevdavful Год назад +1

    And another thing concerning the problem with losing your grip and switching to a supine pronated position all you have to do is go buy some straps that way when you lose your grip the weight go not go anywhere and you can complete the lift.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  Год назад +1

      Straps are for wannabes. Can’t hold it?? Don’t lift it

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Lymphatic System

  • @Pedro_Le_Chef
    @Pedro_Le_Chef 2 года назад +1

    interesting how you didn't mention weighted hyperextentions, as they seem to have a very similar loading and range of motion as the good mornings.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +3

      Mentioned them before. Watch all the videos

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    405 Double Overhand

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Longevity

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    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Accessories

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    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Technique

  • @user-go6ys7wo6r
    @user-go6ys7wo6r Год назад +1

    I wish i had seen that video before i got my lower back injured 2 months ago
    After that injury, i couldn't move for a week
    Still, I went to gym every day and tried to do everything i did except for squats and rdls
    2 months later, RDls and squats are still sort of forbidden to me.
    But after watching that video, i realized why i received that trauma - my new workout routine
    It had almost no exercises for spinal erectors except mentioned ones a bit earlier
    For some reason, my back started being always stiff
    A month went by and stiffness in my back was accompanied by low grade pain
    Something went wrong during my set of rdls and i had to stop training immediately that day
    After that day, lower back pain is stuck with me
    It's interesting how a badly made program can fuck so many things up
    Even considering that i go to GYM for 6 years
    first 4 years were powerlifting
    And in my bodybuilding years ( now ) i had that trauma with such a small weight for me

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Posterior Chain

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +1

    Where

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Double Overhand

  • @johnsmith2221
    @johnsmith2221 Год назад +1

    Anyone do a 45° back extensions? Does it cause pain or help with pain?

  • @derrickhobbs8842
    @derrickhobbs8842 2 года назад +2

    @WENNINGSTRENGTH Do you recommend 45 Degree Hyper Extensions with barbell in hand?

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      Please direct questions to patreon my friend. We use it to fund the channel 🔥🔥🔥
      www.patreon.com/wenningstrength

  • @EstParum
    @EstParum 2 года назад +2

    Meanwhile hurrdurr bodybuilders talks about mind muscle connection and 10000s of crunches 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @klevdavful
    @klevdavful Год назад +1

    Everyone needs reverse hypers in some shape form or fashion even if u have to grab hold of your bed post and hang off the bed and do the movement 😊

  • @rachann87
    @rachann87 Год назад +1

    Reverse hypers look fun!!

  • @dlroto
    @dlroto Год назад +1

    What rep range and weight should be used on the reverse hyper for prehabbing the lower back. Could they be done daily or not.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  Год назад +1

      Great question!!! I’m on patreon for answering stuff my friend 💯💯
      wenningstrength.com/matt-wenning-patreon/

  • @mikemoore2791
    @mikemoore2791 2 года назад +2

    Do hypers do same as rev hypers cos like how many gyms have that... none in Australia that i know of. Im not moving interstate. Ugh

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Uneven Pressure

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Vascular System

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +1

    How

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Nonconpressive

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Defict Sumo Deadlifts

  • @soonahero
    @soonahero Год назад +1

    Was the 405 grip line for a 1rm 😊

  • @patrickjulius7352
    @patrickjulius7352 2 года назад +2

    wish I could get ahold of a reverse hyper. rarity in most gyms it seems.

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +1

    When

  • @jacobxa
    @jacobxa Год назад +3

    Could the relatively slower growth of the spinal erectors also have something to do with the more-isometric loading of exercises that train them? Because on GM for instance it seems like the glutes and hamstrings are stretching and contracting while the erectors are not lengthening as much, - I don’t know if that’s true but that’s what it feels and looks like to me 🤷🏼‍♂️?

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  Год назад +2

      💯💯💯💯

    • @jacobxa
      @jacobxa Год назад

      @@WenningStrength Is there any way to work the erectors in a less-isometric fashion? It seems thoracic and lumbar rounding would accomplish this but as far as I'm aware lumbar rounding is bad bad BAD.
      ?
      Thanks for all that you do!

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +2

    Spinal Erectors

  • @TheUnholyPosole
    @TheUnholyPosole 2 года назад +1

    I always get like a bulging disc when I try to squat or deadlift anymore, I don't get why? Either way, I can't afford to lay down for 3 days when I strain it, so my days off deadlifting and squatting are over.

    • @WenningStrength
      @WenningStrength  2 года назад +1

      You need assessed. My guess. Leg length issue

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +3

    Smart

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 2 года назад +3

    Lower Back