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The amount of authority a aircraft has to exude is tremendous for someone to be able to say "let's see what he can do from here, I'll be on his six" at the start of a dogfight
@@michelestefanini5466 it is. To be fair I can only speak for the SM since I don't fly the MKM or MKI at all. The only thing changed in the cockpit is the HUD. I know this because I used the previous versions cockpit textures on the new one and they worked fine.
@@michelestefanini5466 he is flying the SM. This is literally the cockpit i am talking about. Literally the cockpit that uses previous versions cockpit textures.
@@aeon5566Because US aviation companies hate canards for whatever reason. While Europe has completely moved to canard designs and Russia has slapped them on almost every fighter in the past 30 years, America still goes with the "Just make it go fast and shoot long range missiles, dogfight performance is secondary" philosophy.
You can watch the F18 pilot Gonkey fight the SU30 with his F18 in training in Malaysia I believe. Its quite interesting, they end up nose to nose after the first turn most times.
that is normal export version SU30MKM, not SU30SM with 3D thrust vector, So SU30MKM would be equivalent to F-18, and SU30SM gives F-18 no chance in dogfight.
@@S1lverarrow The Malaysian Su-30MKM has an engine with a 3d thrust vector AL-31FP (like the Indian Su-30MKI). The Russian Su-30SM has a new AL-41F-1C engine (like the Su-35S), with 16% more power.
Nice video man! The mod looks fantastic.....You may be knowing that the Indian Airforce operates Su30s with thrust vectoring. They're a beauty to watch.
my biggest concern with TV has always been if it could or couldnt be toggled by the pilot. energy management is extremely important and TV would screw that pretty big for you. but if it can be toggled, oh boy, the options are a plenty
Did you see video where Su34 win against 3 Patriots in UA,WIN=survived.That was awesome vid,you can feel G force in pilots voice,damn that was hard job.
I'd really loce to see a Eurofighter model with the AMK upgrade and Trust vectoring nozzles. It is confirmed that everything would be ready to install said features but sadly no country really went for it, but it would be kinda interesting to see how it might look like
Ngad or f22 for that matter would put this thing down from 15 miles out atleast. Being able to turn doesn’t mean anything when getting hit by an amraam
Both of us program, gcap, and fcas decided that super maneuverability is not an important trait. Only "western" program that appears to put significant importance on super maneuverability is Japan fx. But Japan cannot continue on their own and instead get involved with gcap. Now, it is not impossible for the airframe design to take 2 different type of engine, but that defeat the purpose of joint dev.
This Flanker variant is very impressive. That said, I'd like to se the maintenance numbers on this thing. As we learned with the F-14: it doesn't matter how awesome the plane is if it's grounded because the plane is broken.
Widely used on strike missions you know where. So I'm assuming pretty good. Also shares many parts with other Flanker family aircraft, making logistics easier.
Correct as it is. The plane is aerodynamically made so that it always want to backflip, especially in turn and the canards are there to prevent thaz by pushing the nose down.
Everyone saying Su 30 vs F16 or F22 but I wanna see vs F15 cuz I remember it pulling some very unexpected high AOA maneuvers in your videos and I wanna see if that helps against this Flanker.
You flying 3D thrust vectored aircraft is AWESOME and i always wanted to see YOU are the one who flies it. But i guess i understand why you don’t use it so much because in dogfights you win in 5 seconds. But keep it up! Great videos 🎉 Edit: Oh, you said this is the first Flanker with 3D TV, if it so, okay then. But we are waiting videos of Flanker vs Raptor that kinda stuff. 😎
Would be interesting to see how the Su-30SM does against the YF-23 and see if the choice of the F-22 was warranted over its superior maneuverability. I understand we are gaming here but still fun to check. ☺
I saw the title and immediately knew I was going to watch you do the DCS equivalent of throwing puppies off a cliff... I'm not even sure that the F-22 will be able to beat this thing consistently (given equal pilot skill)...
if you gonna use it a lot in the future, we should come up with a name for the back pilot, who's obviously not Jester. Also, he's so quite, like he's asleep because he's so confident. He's even got blinders so the sun doesn't bother him! That's what ultimate disrespect looks like))
Wonder how accurate this mod is. After all we (USA) always know less about Russian tech than we think we do. What's scary Is it's likely more capable than we know.
@@sol2wit781 why would you dogfight against one in a Raptor when you have such superior standoff capabilities? The bottom line is that Russia can’t field SU-30s with capable pilots that in any way approach NATO capabilities. Russia is a joke.
IDK if it would change the out come much, but for most of the rounds the f18 was already turning before you started yours. The last round he was belly facing you before you started your turn. Would like to see where you both pass each other before starting the turn.
That's actually an advantage if you didn't notice it. Turning just a second before the merge allows you to jam the WEZ effectively keeping the enemy from firing their IRs. if the f-18 didn't turn before the su30sm did, the video woulda been much shorter simply becasue GS would shoot it faster.
@@GrowlingSidewinder glad I said (met to more of a question). I don't play DCS or really know too much about this topic. Now I know! thank you. Love the vids Happy New Year!
Очень интересно смотреть бой между тяжолым истребителем и легким! Но у тяжолого истребителя есть вектор тяги!!!! И это сумасшедшее преимущество!!!! Вектор тяги регулируемый на тяжолых истребителях это супер оружие!!!!
I think this should be a series, fight an F-14 then a 15, try a Eurofighter or Rafale then an F-16 and work your way up to a vid where u dogfight the F-22.
The SU 30 MKI has been a dominant bird with all exercise with USAF. F22 is an sniper, a very difficult bird to target and to achieve a firing solution . The missile technology has improved a lot even the f22 can get dropped if in NEZ.
@rajeshpillai4927 that's not true and has been substantially debunked. It is a very cool jet, but the often-cited initial exercise involved the IAF sending basically their weapons school instructors to fight against relatively new-guy USAF guys. Of course they performed well in that match up. When they met again, the USAF sent actual front-line F-15C aircrews and they were killing the Su-30 in every engagement even with external tanks on, etc. It is a beautiful airplane, but let's not exaggerate.
What I love most about this Flanker, is the speed indicator similar to the one in the Mirage 2000. WAY better than the usual indicator in Russian planes, and I find it baffling that American planes don't have either of those.
Nice. Finally some dogfighting again :D I have a possibly nice idea for a next video. German Typhon (Flanker Killer) vs Su-30 but with you flying the Ef2000 as a compitent pilot and see how it turns out. Might turn out to be incredibly nice :)
People asking for a VS F22 video.... my opinion is the SU 57 Felon is a glorified SU30 Flanker, its an even fight I think, however, the Raptor came out victorious. ergo, I already know what will be the outcome.
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Ok good! Now face the Raptor.
Put it up against the SU57 and SU35
Su30sm vs f15 stol/mtd? PRETTY PLEASE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP? It’d be like a “what if” if the u.s invested in upgrading the f15’s instead of going f22
YF-22 vs su30sm flanker
I'd been waiting for this!!!
We now need *F-22 or Cy-57 vs Cy-30sm2*
The amount of authority a aircraft has to exude is tremendous for someone to be able to say "let's see what he can do from here, I'll be on his six" at the start of a dogfight
Thrust vectoring, supermaneuverability, and HOBS missiles combined is just Ace Combat IRL.
Scrap queen and secondary missile upgrade for qaam ahh build 💀🔥
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Dude the cockpit looks so good now!
It's the same cockpit from the last update. They haven't finished the new one yet.
@@BlitzFromBehind it's not the same one, compare and see
@@michelestefanini5466 it is. To be fair I can only speak for the SM since I don't fly the MKM or MKI at all. The only thing changed in the cockpit is the HUD. I know this because I used the previous versions cockpit textures on the new one and they worked fine.
@@BlitzFromBehind and that's why you didn't see what changrd
@@michelestefanini5466 he is flying the SM. This is literally the cockpit i am talking about. Literally the cockpit that uses previous versions cockpit textures.
Now let’s see how it does against an f-22
Good luck getting to the merge
@@christopherchartier3017good luck getting to the merge 🤓
@@christopherchartier3017🤓
Interesting how he picked the hornet and not the viper.
Craptor is just a mini lunch for SU30
If a fight between two equals is desired fellas, that F15 w /Thrust vect would be ideal imo.
I think it's a mistake not including that with the new F-15EX. Even I've read the fly by wire will achieve similar results, I have many doubts.
@@keyboard_g plus Russia and China can’t deal with F-15s so good enough works
Not sure why they didn't use the NASA variant and went with Canards. That thing is a lot more maneuverable.
@@aeon5566Because US aviation companies hate canards for whatever reason. While Europe has completely moved to canard designs and Russia has slapped them on almost every fighter in the past 30 years, America still goes with the "Just make it go fast and shoot long range missiles, dogfight performance is secondary" philosophy.
@@JoshJones-37334 "plus Russia and China can’t deal with F-15s" If they only had Mig-29 A's and Mig-21's then your statement would be true lol.
You can watch the F18 pilot Gonkey fight the SU30 with his F18 in training in Malaysia I believe. Its quite interesting, they end up nose to nose after the first turn most times.
that is normal export version SU30MKM, not SU30SM with 3D thrust vector, So SU30MKM would be equivalent to F-18, and SU30SM gives F-18 no chance in dogfight.
@@S1lverarrow The Malaysian Su-30MKM has an engine with a 3d thrust vector AL-31FP (like the Indian Su-30MKI). The Russian Su-30SM has a new AL-41F-1C engine (like the Su-35S), with 16% more power.
@@S1lverarrowcheck your facts recently?
@@silyshkin5223двигатель АЛ-41ф устанавливается на СУ30 СМ2
Там для повышения маневренности на малой скорости на F18 он использовал раздельное управление двигателями.
Finally, another daily dose of GS in DCS
Its also has R-77M which has a secondary motor for when its gets slow. Little bit OP in DCS lol
Very Beautiful SU-30. Flanker family is my favorite fighter jets. I'm glad to see a proper thrust vectoring flanker.
We are definitely gonna need some more Su-30 vids with this new flight model. GS, I beg you! My Su-30 addiction has hit the relapse phase!
Since there are only 12 in existence y’all are gonna have to fight to the death
Darn, that Su-30 is amazing! We need to see Su-30 vs. F-22 dogfight now.
Su 35/57, not su 30
@@kaiser850this is a 30SM, not a 35
@@seaalon138 i told that f 22 is opponent of su 35/57, not su 30.
I was going through withdrawals without seeing daily vids from my favorite pilot behind the stick
Nice video man! The mod looks fantastic.....You may be knowing that the Indian Airforce operates Su30s with thrust vectoring. They're a beauty to watch.
my biggest concern with TV has always been if it could or couldnt be toggled by the pilot. energy management is extremely important and TV would screw that pretty big for you. but if it can be toggled, oh boy, the options are a plenty
Watch timestamp 11:00, GS said it can be turned on or off at will.
you can assign TV and the ASC mode to buttons, very useful
I’d love to see them do the single seater version (Su-35S). Probably my favourite modern jet fighter.
They're working on that exact variant, but work will resume after major work has been done on the Su-30
There is nothing sexier than a Flanker with Cannards
It will be really cool to see how it does Against the NASA varient of the F-18, the F-18 HARV
Doesn’t NASA have an F16 that has vectoring that can mimic any plane?
f16 vista??
@@Angl0sax0nknight
We would definitely like to see it versus a f 22. I think it might be an interesting dogfight
Appreciate all the flanker vids lately comrade GS.
I was jonesing so hard, I watched *old* GS content. It was good to get situational awareness for his new stuff.
Did you see video where Su34 win against 3 Patriots in UA,WIN=survived.That was awesome vid,you can feel G force in pilots voice,damn that was hard job.
now time for 2d f-22 vs su-30 3d! letss goo!!!!!!!!!
Again nice vid man!! Love the Flanker platform absolute beast!! Let's see what this amazing thing can do to a F-22 keep the goof vids my man
I'd really loce to see a Eurofighter model with the AMK upgrade and Trust vectoring nozzles.
It is confirmed that everything would be ready to install said features but sadly no country really went for it, but it would be kinda interesting to see how it might look like
Su-30 what a beautiful looking aircraft and my favorite out of all!
I'm sure there will be many demands of you in this aircraft against an F-22
My pc just looked at me nervously
I’m addicted to this channel now…thanks GS
Just....Sick. Always a treat. Thank you for your efforts. Allows me to get lost in the Sauce. Brilliant ❤
I see a flanker, i click, I enjoy.
and that's why I think NGAD has to have super-maneuverability, as we've seen, as stealth improves, VR fights will become more common.
Lol, if read carefully about the NGAD program (USAF’s), it's going to be anything but super maneuverable
@@TymaDemtheir philosophy is basically "shoot them before they shoot you" so I guess that's why they put aside super maneuverability
Ngad or f22 for that matter would put this thing down from 15 miles out atleast. Being able to turn doesn’t mean anything when getting hit by an amraam
Both of us program, gcap, and fcas decided that super maneuverability is not an important trait.
Only "western" program that appears to put significant importance on super maneuverability is Japan fx. But Japan cannot continue on their own and instead get involved with gcap. Now, it is not impossible for the airframe design to take 2 different type of engine, but that defeat the purpose of joint dev.
The fact you only used small bursts of gunfire to down the F-18 over two to three ROUNDS NOT MISSING, shows what kinda sick pilot you have become.
This Flanker variant is very impressive. That said, I'd like to se the maintenance numbers on this thing. As we learned with the F-14: it doesn't matter how awesome the plane is if it's grounded because the plane is broken.
Widely used on strike missions you know where. So I'm assuming pretty good. Also shares many parts with other Flanker family aircraft, making logistics easier.
Oooh!!!! 2024 is gonna be a spicy year!!!! We're gonna see Su-30 content!!!! Let's go!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
All that thing now needs are canards that move in the correct way, for a 10/10 replica
The canards are actually correct. On the Flanker, they're there more for AOA control than pure maneuverability.
Correct as it is. The plane is aerodynamically made so that it always want to backflip, especially in turn and the canards are there to prevent thaz by pushing the nose down.
Day I don’t remember asking for rogue raptor scenario. 😂
The Su-30SM/35S/57 also have the R-37 which is an absolute monster paired with the Irbis-E or BARS N011M radars.
Everyone saying Su 30 vs F16 or F22 but I wanna see vs F15 cuz I remember it pulling some very unexpected high AOA maneuvers in your videos and I wanna see if that helps against this Flanker.
Bro was nose on in less than 5 seconds off the merge that’s wild
You flying 3D thrust vectored aircraft is AWESOME and i always wanted to see YOU are the one who flies it. But i guess i understand why you don’t use it so much because in dogfights you win in 5 seconds. But keep it up! Great videos 🎉
Edit: Oh, you said this is the first Flanker with 3D TV, if it so, okay then. But we are waiting videos of Flanker vs Raptor that kinda stuff. 😎
This is thing a beast. My favorite Jet. Can you make this thing dog fight the F-16? And the F-22 also. Poor F/A-18 stands no chance at all
Would be interesting to see how the Su-30SM does against the YF-23 and see if the choice of the F-22 was warranted over its superior maneuverability. I understand we are gaming here but still fun to check. ☺
BVR fight the SU30 wouldn't have a chance. The 23 was not made for dogfighting.
Ack. Very much like the F-35 then. The F-22 is a much more versatile platform, hence a better choice to have in your inventory. Thanks! @@MeerkatADV
@@mariocouture1596 the F35 is far more versatile than the F22. The F22 is a pure air superiority fighter.
@@MeerkatADV”not made” is a strong word. Even though it prioritizes BVR, the Black Widow 2 still can defend itself in a dogfight
@@MeerkatADVas it turns out though, it does well against the SU30SM.
I saw the title and immediately knew I was going to watch you do the DCS equivalent of throwing puppies off a cliff...
I'm not even sure that the F-22 will be able to beat this thing consistently (given equal pilot skill)...
Damn that turn🔥
I guess you use stealth and bvr. Then you can watch missiles go up the vectoring exhaust from a distance.
Think about it: Tom Cruise technically is able to find and fly a Suchoi.
Got to see you fly in the F18 against one of your friends in the su30!
My man at 2:00 shot a FOX-2 downed and f-18 then threw a whip all in one go 🤣🤘
its like its got an arrangement with gravity
if you gonna use it a lot in the future, we should come up with a name for the back pilot, who's obviously not Jester. Also, he's so quite, like he's asleep because he's so confident. He's even got blinders so the sun doesn't bother him! That's what ultimate disrespect looks like))
i got my first pvp kills today on the viper server. 8 in total. f16c baby lets gooo
Wonder how accurate this mod is. After all we (USA) always know less about Russian tech than we think we do. What's scary Is it's likely more capable than we know.
that first turn on the merge made me scream
I would love to see some CAS with the Su-30 since its main mission is multirole. Would be lovely
Cas has mercury on it
oh my god those turns are nuts
I just want the modernized version only. Sorry I've changed my mind. Happy New Year.
At 0:25 the pilot's eyes in the mirror make him look like he's terrified to be there.
You should bring back the unknown bandit series that was really fun to watch
Man... i fucking LOVE flankers!
Can I request more ground level replays of the battles if the scenario allows it?
Love your videos man!
Su-30SM: going into the merge here AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND HE'S GONE
Su-30SM vs Gripen-E - The fight of modded aircraft! 1st a dogfight and then BVR video?
The SU-30 is a hornet killer
Imagine how effective it could be if the Russians could afford tires for it
@@JoshJones-37334or better pilot training, or better maintenance. Or adequately modernized doctrine
@@JoshJones-37334 if you we’re dogfighting against the SU-30 you should use an F/A-22 Raptor or a Gripen especially if you are a great pilot
@@sol2wit781 why would you dogfight against one in a Raptor when you have such superior standoff capabilities?
The bottom line is that Russia can’t field SU-30s with capable pilots that in any way approach NATO capabilities. Russia is a joke.
IDK if it would change the out come much, but for most of the rounds the f18 was already turning before you started yours. The last round he was belly facing you before you started your turn. Would like to see where you both pass each other before starting the turn.
In that case he would die even faster as he would unable to jam the wez.
That's actually an advantage if you didn't notice it. Turning just a second before the merge allows you to jam the WEZ effectively keeping the enemy from firing their IRs. if the f-18 didn't turn before the su30sm did, the video woulda been much shorter simply becasue GS would shoot it faster.
@@GrowlingSidewinder glad I said (met to more of a question). I don't play DCS or really know too much about this topic. Now I know! thank you. Love the vids Happy New Year!
Now do Su-30 vs F22
He already did
He did without this new TVC. Now it will be way cooler to see. @@NATEDOG2024
The pilot's eyes are not blue; he does not perceive the helmet on his head. 🤣
Try a battle with you in the Su-30SM Flanker and someone else in the Su-57 Felon
GS can you make an F-14D Super Tomcat dogfight vid? I would love to see that!
Great vids as always bro! It's always a great day when you upload!
👇🏻
There is no f14D available for this sim
So summary, you get incredibly insane maneuverability, but if you choose to use it the cost is shitting out all your speed
Очень интересно смотреть бой между тяжолым истребителем и легким! Но у тяжолого истребителя есть вектор тяги!!!! И это сумасшедшее преимущество!!!! Вектор тяги регулируемый на тяжолых истребителях это супер оружие!!!!
you can't snipe a jet
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I think this should be a series, fight an F-14 then a 15, try a Eurofighter or Rafale then an F-16 and work your way up to a vid where u dogfight the F-22.
Id love to see you fly SU-24 vs F14A
su-24 is a bomber, f-14 fighter. F-14 vs mig-31. They have similar weapons.
I've been waiting you fight inside F-23, bring that deadly lady out bruh!
Gs I love your videos
Well now you have to take it against the F-15STOL/MTD.
The SU 30 MKI has been a dominant bird with all exercise with USAF.
F22 is an sniper, a very difficult bird to target and to achieve a firing solution . The missile technology has improved a lot even the f22 can get dropped if in NEZ.
@rajeshpillai4927 that's not true and has been substantially debunked. It is a very cool jet, but the often-cited initial exercise involved the IAF sending basically their weapons school instructors to fight against relatively new-guy USAF guys. Of course they performed well in that match up. When they met again, the USAF sent actual front-line F-15C aircrews and they were killing the Su-30 in every engagement even with external tanks on, etc. It is a beautiful airplane, but let's not exaggerate.
Amazing aircraft! Now do BVR with a f35
I'd like to see a mission of a 1960s style SAC nuclear deep strike.
I think that mode is very "optimistic" to say the least🤭.
Would love to see GS in an F-22 vs. this Flanker-H.
What I love most about this Flanker, is the speed indicator similar to the one in the Mirage 2000. WAY better than the usual indicator in Russian planes, and I find it baffling that American planes don't have either of those.
How about SU-30SM VS F-15 STOL/MTD
I know this is a weird question but can u do history videos about the the aircraft themselves likes history of the f-16 or mig-29?
Many other youtubers have already done that
You need to take this thing against the F-15EX
I would love to see the inverse of this with you flying the Super Hornet.
Need a bandit unknown video, but you use this Su-30
This big fat Flanker against the nimble little Viper. Please.
Nice. Finally some dogfighting again :D
I have a possibly nice idea for a next video. German Typhon (Flanker Killer) vs Su-30 but with you flying the Ef2000 as a compitent pilot and see how it turns out. Might turn out to be incredibly nice :)
I love thrust vectoring jets, probably all my favourites. plus the f18 and 16
and that is exactly why modern western Fox-2s dont need you to get the nose on.
People asking for a VS F22 video.... my opinion is the SU 57 Felon is a glorified SU30 Flanker, its an even fight I think, however, the Raptor came out victorious. ergo, I already know what will be the outcome.
"He's doing his Thrust vectoring BS"
-some DCS YTer sometime ago.
Sound of gripens giggle coming from the corner
If keeping it 4th gen, how about vs the F-15 STOL/MTD
Exactly 💯
I can hear myself in the video that is so funny !!!! Loved doing the navigation system
I would love to see a F35 vs unknown bandit or a F35 series of Vids
Does this thing exist IRL? it is a fucking monster dude!