@@polpol2739 but if he did that then he would have to admit Israel shouldn't be around. He already defends the ethnostate for Jews and demands places like Poland to take migrants
its always soul-crushing when at the end Destiny says "love you buddy be careful" and the other guy doesn't say love you back. You should not play with a woman's heart that way.
Ethan wasn't really negotiating for concessions. He'd always opposed Israel's policy on Gaza, he's always opposed the IDF and the settlements in the West Bank and he's always supported Palestine's right to autonomy and its own state. His "crime" in the eyes of his former friends is to oppose Hamas and to be horrified by their slaughter of civilians. In other words, his natural human empathy is his "crime".
Yeah, Ethan was taking a somewhat hardline anti-Israel position, accepting that “settlers” (presumably actual settlers, not Israeli citizens who live near the border) were legitimate military targets, but just opposed the murder of babies. Hasan couldn’t meet him there.
I thought Hassan came across as cruelly childish during that Ethan talk. He picked a side (fine nbd), but it seemed like the point of what he was doing was solely to navigate that conversation without granting anything against that position. Then, when he was literally being begged to drop the act and show a dash of empathy he seemed like he was enjoying the power dynamic of that moment, not engaging at all with ethan. The whole thing was sad to watch.
Discovered Hutch through his gameplay commentaries over 10 years ago. Discovered Destiny about 4 years ago through politics. Always enjoy when these two chat
@@viziontrexbroo same, i think seananners streams on twitch now but idk if he still does bc I haven't used the app in a while. i miss when they played toghether
We need more hutch and destiny conversations. Two of the most based people in online political conversations who care to get to the truth of the issues rather than making assumptions
@@lampad4549 he's a streamer and he has above average IQ and isn't insane, that's impressive, pretty much why Destiny is popular, he's not even well read into all the subjects he talks about, but he's willing to dive in and learn and not just take up reactionary politics to fit an image.
@@TurtleChad1If defending Israel's right to exist means you think apartheid is ok, then supporting Hamas definitely means you want universal Jewish genocide. Those are equally charitable claims.
*I disagree* For Jews to flee as refugees, after being invaded, and then returning as refugees, when they are also being attacked everywhere else, is understandable* If a population of refugees, arrive in your land, immediately attacking them over and over again, is not understandable. *Those refugees then creating a state in self defence is understandable* To then keep attacking them is not understandable. *For Israel to keep hilltop land that they gained, when that land was used to launch these unprovoked attacks against them is understandable* For Israel to give back land, for Palestinians to live in peace, and then for Palestine to then immediately use that land to attack israel is not understandable. *To put blockades on a region who keep attacking you, is understandable. (Especially considering what they have continuously declared their ultimate goal is for the last 1400 years)* Stopping the blockades, but when the attacks increase, you put the blockades back in place again, is understandable. *Having blockades against you stop, and then attacking them even more often is not understandable* Putting military equipment under hospitals is not understandable. *Bombing those buildings that they are storing weapons in to attack you, after giving warnings is understandable* Stopping your own civilians leaving said buildings with roadblocks is not understandable. Stopping the bombings of said buildings, but when the attacks increase again,you start bombing the buildings again, is understandable *It is understandable in the sense, that this has been an extremist region for 1400 years, so this is why they behave this way, and why they are furious when they keep losing over and over again, when they attack the Jewish people. But it's not understandable in the sense,that any rational person would feel or behave the same way* Rational Palestinians think, well we keep attacking them, since we first invaded, and since they returned as refugees, and they keep defending themselves, so we are now in this horrible situation, and are being ruled by these extremists. And they thank Israel for being so kind to them and showing such great restraint and patience. Replace Palestine with USA, and Jewish people with Native Americans, and everyone would agree that Israel is behaving appropriately, and Palestine isn't. *Imagine if after Europeans invaded North America, natives fled to, say Africa, where they were attacked too, so later returned to North America as refugees, and the USA immediately attacked them* So they created a state in self defence, kept getting attacked, gained hilltop land, when pushing the USA back, and kept that land that the USA was using to launch attacks against them. Kept getting attacked, so they put blockades on the USA. Gave the USA back land as good will gesture, and the USA immediately uses said land to attack them, so the Natives took it back. Stopped the blockades, and the attacks increased,so they put the blockades back in place, Stopped bombing the hospitals etc, where the USA was holding military equipment, and the attacks increased, so they started bombing the hospitals again. *The Natives behaviour would be understandable, the USA's would not be understandable*
Well this is what you get when you indulge blind fanaticism over complex social issues, it eventually blows up in your face. This has been cooking for a long time, and people didn’t have a problem with it until it affected something they care about (Israel apparently, go figure)
I've been watching Hutch for like 15 years at this point, holy shit. First video I saw of his was the COD4 video where he's arguing that Anal sex is based. He's always been a smart man.
Rare to hear someone question their own moral courage. Self awareness at it's height is honesty and is truly a virtue. We all are having to sort out moral issues now more than ever. Never thought as a bernie guy in 2016 that the left would become the most dangerous cult in America. I miss when our biggest issue was getting home before the street lights came on or catching your show at the right time.
@@jbark678 I thought about this hard, but honestly I strongly disagree. The left poses the greatest threat to us right now from what I've seen, but I'm open to being persuaded back. I grew up seeing Republicans as the bad guys, but this is worse than anything they've ever done. At no time in my life has half the republican party supported jihadist terrorism. They can't hide their glee at this point, and I tried to ignore it, but it's painfully obvious at this point. We've always said it was a small minority, but that was a pretty lie. The right has a moral base that for so long we've disagreed with because it didn't include certain marginalized groups. The current left is more morally bankrupt than the Jim Crow whites. They see no difference between Israel and HAMAS. Look in their eyes glaze over when you talk about the innocent people who got their throats slit at a music festival, but they will openly cheer that same slaughter at rallies where they are around like-minded idiots. That kind of stupidity and moral vacuum will be the end of America if we accept it.
Destiny's Oppenheimer takes are just insane. Btw, Einstein did work with Oppenheimer and JFK was actually the deciding factor in the Strauss hearings. He didn't just reference them for shits and giggles.
The question I can’t get an answer to from anyone taking the Pro-Palestinian position is: if your family was 20 miles from Hamas, how would you want your government to act? It’s easy to take a strong Pro-Palestinian position when you have 0 skin in the game. If you somehow manage to keep the conversation going, the follow up is if your family lived in Gaza, what would you want Hamas to do? It’s hard to maintain the Pro-Hamas position if you have skin in the game.
I can't believe I grew up on Hutch from machinma to his personal Chanel God series to old men of optic. I haven't seen him in a while but I love that I've been watching Destiny for a year now and now they're briefly crossing paths. Crazy man
Anyone else notice when Cenk was on Pier's show he said 53 years of oppression which would be after the one war, but his PoS nephew on the show said 75 which means since Israel's formation as a state? That 20 year difference and the implication with his callous attitude sitting next to Ethan basically begging for a crumb of sympathy speaks volumes.
yoooo WTF its Hutch!! I used to watch that mfer back when he was on Machinima making call of duty videos, Haven't watched his content in years. what a mad lad.
Much respect to Destiny. After the initial rocky start due to lack of solid information about the history of both sides, the ground he stands on now, has become a lot more solid thanks to much homework done on the matter thus far.
It meets every textbook definition of a genocide. There is also a consensus with Genocide historians that it is a genocide. 8000 people to this date dead in Gaza, hundreds dead in the West Bank.
@@MOME914Don’t expect the neolibs Zionist like Destiny to acknowledge it though. They’re just as disgusting as the tankies. The IDF and Hamas are both terror groups.
I hope Destiny goes on PKA again sometime, Hutch's recent appearance devolved into a political argument that boggled the mind, people believe insane shit
PKA seemed like a pretty boring experience for destiny last time he went on. I might be bias'd though, cause I didn't really get what was being talked about.
PKA is Woody being 80 IQ boomer with an ego, Kyle being overly edgy and unfunny and the third guy who seems like the autism wrangler to keep the other two egotistical morons in line.
Because in many circles its easier to hyper focus on Israel and Palestine when as we know the mandate affected a massive swathe of the middle east. A lot of people also like to forget or ignore French involvement in the process. I think it boils down to the complexity of the situation.
Ill be honest it is a sad day when I am siding with Destiny as a leftist. Destiny thinks i have some joke ideology. But he is still one million percent correct about all of this. He is a bit too fair to the state of Israel imo. But I prefer that to Hasan and him completely ignoring the humanity of the Israeli people.
Oppenheimer wasn't about the bomb... It was about Oppenheimer. It covered his life so yeah there was a lot to cover. I don't agree with his opinion on that movie. I don't see his points when it comes to it.
Why is this conversation not on the main channel? Why is the conversation with that Philly guy on the main channel??? I think the videos were uploaded to the wrong channel.
14:00 when destiny talks about a country trying to annex land by sending a bunch of people rings true for russia as well- theyre currently in the process of having tens of thousands of russians to move into eastern ukrainian territories, theyve done this in Georgia too
I miss the old times when Hutch played Gmod hide and seek with the guys. Yeah he's politically inclined and whatever, but the old gang was so fun to see.
I took an intro to the middle east course in college that greatly changed my opinion on Palestinian-Israeli relations. There is no "right side" to this conflict. The Palestinians were promised a state that never materialized because they didn't have the firepower and foreign support that Israel had to back it up-clear and simple. The Israelis living in Israel only have their land because they won a handful of wars with huge overseas pocketbooks funding their every whim. The Arab states were and are no match for western military support. If the Palestinians truely want to stop the illegal but ultimately unpunnished expansion Israeli settlements or even get their land back then the best thing they can do is instigate a civil war or partition within Israel and hope that they can ally themselves with the winning side and form a stronger single-state solution. Unfortunately for Israelis who are scared of being out voted in their own state, "seprate but equal" doesn't ever work out. It didn't work in America and it doesn't work in the levant. A two-state solution can only ever be a temporary measure. Either every Palestinian leaves their homeland or they are otherwise terminated as Israel continues "manifesting it's destiny" across it's biblically-defined borders. Perhaps they will allow the Palestinians to live in abject squalor on barren reservations placed somewhere out of sight and out of mind... maybe they can open up casinos or something...
The problem is that there's not really anything to "morally analyze" when it comes to Israel. If you want to find out whose fault it is, then you'd need to look at the British at the time. They did the equivalent of a home owner selling their property to two different buyers, and then noping out once things became predictably difficult. The only difference being that if it was just a house, the buyers could go to the authorities, while in the case of Israel, the authority is also the original home owner. So now they are locked into that property together and seeing who can kill the other first to finally claim the house for themselves, while all the neighbors complain about the noise and also occasionally throw a stone through the window.
Destiny never answered why he finds himself more sympathetic to the Israeli side despite the settlements. He should also probably get to the modern day in his "research" soon if he's going to continue offering his thoughts on the conflict, as that's arguably the most important part.
If Destiny's research of Netanyahu and Likud and really the whole situation isn't current then he shouldn't be discussing anything, he should be completing the research.
Did i just hear Destiny say the way people claim land is by moving many people from one area into another? I guess that only applies to anywhere other than the US.
The overwhelming majority of civilian casualties in Iraq were from different Muslim sects slaughtering each other. The number actually killed by the US was around 40,000 in the ten years; still a lot, but largely due to the Jihadis’ practice of fighting from the midst of the civilian population.
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Weird, all the time spent on research but still no havarra agreement being mentioned one time. Weird to ignore the fact nazi Germany founded Israel
Yeah I saw this coming their only overlap is they both have an interest in manipulating American children
destiny needs to read pre 48 information. he is very inaccurate there
@@polpol2739wawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
@@polpol2739 but if he did that then he would have to admit Israel shouldn't be around. He already defends the ethnostate for Jews and demands places like Poland to take migrants
Always a joy to get a Hutch and destiny conversation. Wish they happened more often.
H3h3 supports the idf
Why?
Gey
are u gay
Hutch seems like a good dude
its always soul-crushing when at the end Destiny says "love you buddy be careful" and the other guy doesn't say love you back. You should not play with a woman's heart that way.
Density doesn't need to hear it from their lips, when she's felt it from their hips.
@@Naptosiships *
@@felipemendes5604*nips
I can’t stand the “be careful.” It’s like saying “watch out” lol, it sounds weird out of context! Careful of what?
because its obviously fake as fuck, like the lex friedman "love everyone" spiel
Ethan wasn't really negotiating for concessions. He'd always opposed Israel's policy on Gaza, he's always opposed the IDF and the settlements in the West Bank and he's always supported Palestine's right to autonomy and its own state. His "crime" in the eyes of his former friends is to oppose Hamas and to be horrified by their slaughter of civilians. In other words, his natural human empathy is his "crime".
Yeah, Ethan was taking a somewhat hardline anti-Israel position, accepting that “settlers” (presumably actual settlers, not Israeli citizens who live near the border) were legitimate military targets, but just opposed the murder of babies. Hasan couldn’t meet him there.
And for that, his wife is being painted as IDF Rambo going on raids.
@@PanelVulture yeah, leaving Gaza was bad. You don’t leave prisons unguarded.
Oh no boo hoo! The least respectful fatty on the planet is experiencing mean people saying things to him… 😢
@@deriznohappehquiteyou watched the vid, read the comment and chose to write that… atp your brain is the prison smh
I thought Hassan came across as cruelly childish during that Ethan talk. He picked a side (fine nbd), but it seemed like the point of what he was doing was solely to navigate that conversation without granting anything against that position. Then, when he was literally being begged to drop the act and show a dash of empathy he seemed like he was enjoying the power dynamic of that moment, not engaging at all with ethan. The whole thing was sad to watch.
Discovered Hutch through his gameplay commentaries over 10 years ago. Discovered Destiny about 4 years ago through politics. Always enjoy when these two chat
Machinima gang rise up
But I miss Nanners the most
Same 🤙
@@viziontrexmachinima inbox with sark hutch and nanners was my childhood bro 😂
@@viziontrexbroo same, i think seananners streams on twitch now but idk if he still does bc I haven't used the app in a while. i miss when they played toghether
@@viziontrexnanners was around streaming here and there! Those respawn videos were always gold
We need more hutch and destiny conversations. Two of the most based people in online political conversations who care to get to the truth of the issues rather than making assumptions
What's so impressive about hutch?
@@lampad4549 He's based and redpilled.
@lampad4549 for the short while he was in the same space as Destiny he came off as one of the more well read left leaning people.
@@lampad4549 he's a streamer and he has above average IQ and isn't insane, that's impressive, pretty much why Destiny is popular, he's not even well read into all the subjects he talks about, but he's willing to dive in and learn and not just take up reactionary politics to fit an image.
@@syzyphyzhutch and sark is how i remember him. although i was young so i def watched more seananners
Happy to see hutch and destiny talk, hutch is a cool dude who actually can engage with criticism
They just agreed that apartheid isn't that bad
@@TurtleChad1 timestamp?
@@hsampaiowhole vid
@@TurtleChad1 aint no way we watched the same video hjahahahah
@@TurtleChad1If defending Israel's right to exist means you think apartheid is ok, then supporting Hamas definitely means you want universal Jewish genocide. Those are equally charitable claims.
Destiny talks to Hutch maybe once a year and I always look forward to it.
Reminder: Hila participated in apartheid
@@TurtleChad1Does it bother you at all that you have more more chins than fingers or have you come to terms with yourself?
@@SomersBugtopiaImagine supporting an apartheid regime
@@SomersBugtopiadon’t even bother with this loser, dude’s the Ian Miles Cheong of Destiny’s comment sections
@@TurtleChad1 Prove it. Source it
Love the customary "wow time flies" bit in the beginning that happens to everyone once their over 30.
This hits too close to home for me 🥲
That and sudden back pain in the mornings! 😅
I didn't need to read this
"I can understand in both cases being furious." Couldn't have said it better myself Hutch.
*I disagree* For Jews to flee as refugees, after being invaded, and then returning as refugees, when they are also being attacked everywhere else, is understandable*
If a population of refugees, arrive in your land, immediately attacking them over and over again, is not understandable.
*Those refugees then creating a state in self defence is understandable*
To then keep attacking them is not understandable.
*For Israel to keep hilltop land that they gained, when that land was used to launch these unprovoked attacks against them is understandable*
For Israel to give back land, for Palestinians to live in peace, and then for Palestine to then immediately use that land to attack israel is not understandable.
*To put blockades on a region who keep attacking you, is understandable. (Especially considering what they have continuously declared their ultimate goal is for the last 1400 years)*
Stopping the blockades, but when the attacks increase, you put the blockades back in place again, is understandable.
*Having blockades against you stop, and then attacking them even more often is not understandable*
Putting military equipment under hospitals is not understandable.
*Bombing those buildings that they are storing weapons in to attack you, after giving warnings is understandable*
Stopping your own civilians leaving said buildings with roadblocks is not understandable.
Stopping the bombings of said buildings, but when the attacks increase again,you start bombing the buildings again, is understandable
*It is understandable in the sense, that this has been an extremist region for 1400 years, so this is why they behave this way, and why they are furious when they keep losing over and over again, when they attack the Jewish people. But it's not understandable in the sense,that any rational person would feel or behave the same way*
Rational Palestinians think, well we keep attacking them, since we first invaded, and since they returned as refugees, and they keep defending themselves, so we are now in this horrible situation, and are being ruled by these extremists. And they thank Israel for being so kind to them and showing such great restraint and patience.
Replace Palestine with USA, and Jewish people with Native Americans, and everyone would agree that Israel is behaving appropriately, and Palestine isn't.
*Imagine if after Europeans invaded North America, natives fled to, say Africa, where they were attacked too, so later returned to North America as refugees, and the USA immediately attacked them*
So they created a state in self defence, kept getting attacked, gained hilltop land, when pushing the USA back, and kept that land that the USA was using to launch attacks against them. Kept getting attacked, so they put blockades on the USA. Gave the USA back land as good will gesture, and the USA immediately uses said land to attack them, so the Natives took it back.
Stopped the blockades, and the attacks increased,so they put the blockades back in place, Stopped bombing the hospitals etc, where the USA was holding military equipment, and the attacks increased, so they started bombing the hospitals again.
*The Natives behaviour would be understandable, the USA's would not be understandable*
Hasan BETRAYING a friend?
Was never a friend
Hila happily participated in the IDF
lol what? Where? When?
@@TurtleChad1bro it isn’t even a good troll
@@TurtleChad1considering its conscription. Being IDF doesnt mean you are a bad person. A nation has a right to defend itself.
It’s crazy that I’ve been watching hutch for over a decade
him, seananners and gassymexican was the best group. Good times
@@sourceeee mr sark too 💪
@@sourceeeeWings > Hutch
@@sourceeeewas just looking up seananners for some 2010 nostalgia last night. Crazy how names pop up right after you think about them.
same, almost 15 years. I'm so glad he's sane when it comes to politics, so many people on YT I was a fan of back in the day went crazy
bro hutch was the man back in the day
ayo chleepy!! ❤
@@addie1080 💖
This video reminded me how much i miss hutch. Hes probably one of the best things in twitch-pol
The fact that Steve is banned from Twitch really shows how insane Twitch is.
After getting unbanned he should never stream on twitch and just appear on other streams.
It is nuts that there is so much support on the internet for hamas
People who only read headlines.
Is it really surprising? Is more like finally gone full mask off.
Well this is what you get when you indulge blind fanaticism over complex social issues, it eventually blows up in your face. This has been cooking for a long time, and people didn’t have a problem with it until it affected something they care about (Israel apparently, go figure)
You mad or something?
There are a lot of Muslims and wokes in the world
I've been watching Hutch for like 15 years at this point, holy shit. First video I saw of his was the COD4 video where he's arguing that Anal sex is based. He's always been a smart man.
Destiny: you should watch Hasan sometimes-- Hutch: Pass
big true
Rare to hear someone question their own moral courage. Self awareness at it's height is honesty and is truly a virtue. We all are having to sort out moral issues now more than ever. Never thought as a bernie guy in 2016 that the left would become the most dangerous cult in America. I miss when our biggest issue was getting home before the street lights came on or catching your show at the right time.
I dont think the left is the most dangerous cult in America. Dangerous yes but most, no.
Eh, I think some of the more egregious Trumpers are more dangerous, but I see where you're coming from.
@@jbark678 I thought about this hard, but honestly I strongly disagree. The left poses the greatest threat to us right now from what I've seen, but I'm open to being persuaded back. I grew up seeing Republicans as the bad guys, but this is worse than anything they've ever done. At no time in my life has half the republican party supported jihadist terrorism. They can't hide their glee at this point, and I tried to ignore it, but it's painfully obvious at this point. We've always said it was a small minority, but that was a pretty lie. The right has a moral base that for so long we've disagreed with because it didn't include certain marginalized groups. The current left is more morally bankrupt than the Jim Crow whites. They see no difference between Israel and HAMAS. Look in their eyes glaze over when you talk about the innocent people who got their throats slit at a music festival, but they will openly cheer that same slaughter at rallies where they are around like-minded idiots. That kind of stupidity and moral vacuum will be the end of America if we accept it.
Dvr ruined everything bruh
my first experience with Hutch was on Seananners' channel playing either The Hidden or Prophunt. was always a cool dude.
Hutch and Seannanners were the goats of gameplay
Destiny is like the nexus all youtubers and streamers always come back to every couple of months or years.
I certainly did not expect Caroline to side so heavily with Hasan on the conflict.
Agreed. She normally is much more level-headed. I have not been able to watch her on this issue.
@@phoenix___7747She is right on this issue
@@gghost1224 you are certainly allowed to think that.
Destiny is one of the few political streamer I can tolerate at this point.
💯
Destiny's Oppenheimer takes are just insane. Btw, Einstein did work with Oppenheimer and JFK was actually the deciding factor in the Strauss hearings. He didn't just reference them for shits and giggles.
Complaining that Oppenheimer focuses too much on Opprnheimer is stupid.
Dude’s main criticism of the movie called Oppenheimer is that it was too much about Oppenheimer’s life
Never heard of this dude but it's refreshing to hear an honest, civil debate for the first time in a while.
I love hutch, I used to watch all his videos back in the machinema days
Hutch displays the same sort of consistency that LonerBox has, idk why, he's just enjoyable to have around, he's very rarely bad faith, if ever.
The question I can’t get an answer to from anyone taking the Pro-Palestinian position is: if your family was 20 miles from Hamas, how would you want your government to act? It’s easy to take a strong Pro-Palestinian position when you have 0 skin in the game.
If you somehow manage to keep the conversation going, the follow up is if your family lived in Gaza, what would you want Hamas to do? It’s hard to maintain the Pro-Hamas position if you have skin in the game.
We need a new regular segment where Destiny and Hutch discuss eachothers media takes.
I can't believe I grew up on Hutch from machinma to his personal Chanel God series to old men of optic. I haven't seen him in a while but I love that I've been watching Destiny for a year now and now they're briefly crossing paths. Crazy man
Anyone else notice when Cenk was on Pier's show he said 53 years of oppression which would be after the one war, but his PoS nephew on the show said 75 which means since Israel's formation as a state? That 20 year difference and the implication with his callous attitude sitting next to Ethan basically begging for a crumb of sympathy speaks volumes.
Damn. Haven’t heard from him in years. I still remember when he got the job at machinima. Hope he’s doing well
Been watching Hutch since I was 14 I am now 30 lol
I've never heard of Hutch before this conversation but he seems like a really chill dude
Is this the Machinima days Hutch?
Yerrrp
@@Kyubii01 Damn, kinda nastalgic.
@@F34RDSoldier805 same
@@F34RDSoldier805 I be watching the cod elite burger town videos when they went to a cod event the whole squad was there
Daaamn used to watch Hutch play with APL, Mr. Sark, and Nanners back in the day. Glad to see him still going
Holy shit I never new Hutch was involved with Destiny. That's awesome.
Berserk mid
yoooo WTF its Hutch!! I used to watch that mfer back when he was on Machinima making call of duty videos, Haven't watched his content in years. what a mad lad.
I cant wait for an h3 and ethan collab . We need it!!
A what and a what?
me too, I'm also looking forward to destiny and steven collabing.
Steve and Bonnell need to collab!!!!
I am in your walls
@@YerMum hethan and ethan duh
Much respect to Destiny. After the initial rocky start due to lack of solid information about the history of both sides, the ground he stands on now, has become a lot more solid thanks to much homework done on the matter thus far.
as both an OpTic and Destiny stan, I always love when Hutch hops in
Have not seen hutch in a hot minute, its good to hear from him again
Hutch was just as based 2 years ago. Underrated political commentator
Was so happy to hear the hutch and destiny bridge reopened I had to watch.
It’s legit insane to see so many people calling the invasion of Gaza a genocide.
It meets every textbook definition of a genocide. There is also a consensus with Genocide historians that it is a genocide. 8000 people to this date dead in Gaza, hundreds dead in the West Bank.
@@MOME914Don’t expect the neolibs Zionist like Destiny to acknowledge it though. They’re just as disgusting as the tankies. The IDF and Hamas are both terror groups.
Its not a genocide, but the far leftists love misusing emotionally charged language to push their agenda
That’s cuz it is…
@@bmxney3143 Imagining the target of a genocide doubling in population, guess that's just poor tactics?
41:15, The movie is called Oppenheimer, not The Manhatten Project. The movie is about the man behind the bomb not the bomb or its creation.
Nobody cares. 🤫
The Nakba started long before the surrounding States declared war on Israel.
he’s so ahistorical and then goes “speaking historically” drives me insane
Hutch is and always has been great
Man having a BMF veteran home chef is definitely life goals.. I wonder if they're sleepjng together though..
What a pleasant surprise, I haven't seen Hutch since his days with Seananners
More Hutch appearances please
Man I have't thought about Hutch in a minute. Glad to see hes still kickin
Haven’t seen Hutch in years. Good to hear from him in this convo.
I hope Destiny goes on PKA again sometime, Hutch's recent appearance devolved into a political argument that boggled the mind, people believe insane shit
PKA seemed like a pretty boring experience for destiny last time he went on. I might be bias'd though, cause I didn't really get what was being talked about.
PKA is Woody being 80 IQ boomer with an ego, Kyle being overly edgy and unfunny and the third guy who seems like the autism wrangler to keep the other two egotistical morons in line.
Jordan was part of the British mandate and takes up 80% of the partition plan. How does destiny miss this?
Because in many circles its easier to hyper focus on Israel and Palestine when as we know the mandate affected a massive swathe of the middle east. A lot of people also like to forget or ignore French involvement in the process. I think it boils down to the complexity of the situation.
@@sammay9699 right it’s already so complex. Adding more borders to the equation won’t solve anything
@@sammay9699 kinda why the partition plan shouldn’t play a toll in resolving this too
I used to watch hutch with nanners. Loved this guy
i am based and i agree with Destiny in his Oppenheimer takes
Ill be honest it is a sad day when I am siding with Destiny as a leftist. Destiny thinks i have some joke ideology. But he is still one million percent correct about all of this. He is a bit too fair to the state of Israel imo. But I prefer that to Hasan and him completely ignoring the humanity of the Israeli people.
The Oppenheimer take is more a pointless battle than Israel v Palestinine people need to drop it and let destiny have his take.
Destiny’s Oppenheimer take is obviously correct and the same take can be applied without modification to every single Nolan movie.
Oppenheimer wasn't about the bomb... It was about Oppenheimer. It covered his life so yeah there was a lot to cover. I don't agree with his opinion on that movie. I don't see his points when it comes to it.
Yeah seeing people say they should have included Japanese people and their voices is dumb af
Killers Of The Flower Moon > Oppenheimer
I remember Hutch playing video games with nanners lol
HUTCH? holy shit blast from the past, great dude
Ethan needs new friends
Why is this conversation not on the main channel? Why is the conversation with that Philly guy on the main channel??? I think the videos were uploaded to the wrong channel.
shoutout hutch, used to watch his MW2 stuff all the time.
Imagine taking speed and reading about Jews for 20 straight days.
I want more of this bridge to be built HUTCH ORBITER WHEN
This is all moot now after yesterday's bomb being dropped on the largest refugee camp.
Damn it’s been a long long time since I’ve heard Hutch. I remember him with seananners back in the day. I had no idea he was into politics.
I hope we see more hutch this was really good and engaging and interesting
considering the IDF bombed a refugee camp today Hasan's sounding pretty based now
Not entirely true.
I bet he's celebrating that people died so he can have people comment that he's based
@@timmni you're right, they actually did it twice
Oh shit my boy hutch!
14:00 when destiny talks about a country trying to annex land by sending a bunch of people rings true for russia as well- theyre currently in the process of having tens of thousands of russians to move into eastern ukrainian territories, theyve done this in Georgia too
We love Optic Hutch! Needs to come back more often!
This video won’t give me black mold in my brain (Clueless)
I miss the old times when Hutch played Gmod hide and seek with the guys. Yeah he's politically inclined and whatever, but the old gang was so fun to see.
What is destiny's take on kashmir? He keeps bringing it up but I am not sure if I've ever seen him go deep into that issue.
I took an intro to the middle east course in college that greatly changed my opinion on Palestinian-Israeli relations. There is no "right side" to this conflict. The Palestinians were promised a state that never materialized because they didn't have the firepower and foreign support that Israel had to back it up-clear and simple. The Israelis living in Israel only have their land because they won a handful of wars with huge overseas pocketbooks funding their every whim. The Arab states were and are no match for western military support. If the Palestinians truely want to stop the illegal but ultimately unpunnished expansion Israeli settlements or even get their land back then the best thing they can do is instigate a civil war or partition within Israel and hope that they can ally themselves with the winning side and form a stronger single-state solution.
Unfortunately for Israelis who are scared of being out voted in their own state, "seprate but equal" doesn't ever work out. It didn't work in America and it doesn't work in the levant. A two-state solution can only ever be a temporary measure. Either every Palestinian leaves their homeland or they are otherwise terminated as Israel continues "manifesting it's destiny" across it's biblically-defined borders. Perhaps they will allow the Palestinians to live in abject squalor on barren reservations placed somewhere out of sight and out of mind... maybe they can open up casinos or something...
The problem is that there's not really anything to "morally analyze" when it comes to Israel.
If you want to find out whose fault it is, then you'd need to look at the British at the time.
They did the equivalent of a home owner selling their property to two different buyers, and then noping out once things became predictably difficult.
The only difference being that if it was just a house, the buyers could go to the authorities, while in the case of Israel, the authority is also the original home owner.
So now they are locked into that property together and seeing who can kill the other first to finally claim the house for themselves, while all the neighbors complain about the noise and also occasionally throw a stone through the window.
Destiny never answered why he finds himself more sympathetic to the Israeli side despite the settlements. He should also probably get to the modern day in his "research" soon if he's going to continue offering his thoughts on the conflict, as that's arguably the most important part.
Almost like hamas started the conflict with a terror attack on civs. You know r*** and killing babies
The most hated people were put in the most hateful place
Has Destiny even once mentioned Mossad once during his whole deep dive of Israel/Palestine?
destiny and hutch podcast would go CRAZY js
Is there a public file of his notes on this?
This woman really knows what she’s talking about
His takes on Oppenheimer are enough for me to label him an idiot for the rest of both our lives
hutch is my goat
I haven’t seen “Oppenheimer”, but it is still called “Oppenheimer” and not “Manhattan Project”
I dont know who that guy is but he gives interesting and balanced takes. Destiny should spend more time with him instead of the cringy lefties.
If Destiny's research of Netanyahu and Likud and really the whole situation isn't current then he shouldn't be discussing anything, he should be completing the research.
Did i just hear Destiny say the way people claim land is by moving many people from one area into another? I guess that only applies to anywhere other than the US.
The United States did this too. They colonized the country from Indigenous Americans by settling land.
Hutch and destiny should 1v1 quickscope noscope on rust
The overwhelming majority of civilian casualties in Iraq were from different Muslim sects slaughtering each other. The number actually killed by the US was around 40,000 in the ten years; still a lot, but largely due to the Jihadis’ practice of fighting from the midst of the civilian population.
Yeah, they will be back soon. Don't get your panties twisted.