“You can’t bring me something because you want it done my way and then on the other hand tell me we’re not going to do it your way.” Well said brother!
Do you have a Clevite dealer close by? A shop I used to work at we used all Clevite parts and in frame kits and I never saw a comeback over the two years I worked there. A good way to find those oil leaks is to steam clean the engine and add a dye to the oil and use an UV light. Caterpillar has a dye that works well for that.
Great video J.C.Smith really enjoy watching you work on this truck. It sucks that you can't get part's the way you want them. But when the local guy isn't interested in doing business. You did what you had to do to get this truck back together. Looking forward to your next video stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
Another great video taught me alot once again thank you sir very much. And I bet you have the prettiest assistant and camera operator on RUclips you are a blessed man
Mrs.J.C. does a great job as the camera person. Shots are clear and steady. I see a picture of Jeff in the lower left hand corner. How is he feeling? I hope well.
Ck out Bearings Inc. Last I knew, if they're still around, only sold USA. A friend had a boat n trlr with a bad bearing. None of the local parts stores could id the bearing. On a suggestion I went to Bearings Inc. The man not only id the bearing but tracked the number changes over the years. "We've got one in Memphis," he said I had it the next morning in Olympia.
Great Video! Do you think the metalic flake in the oil on the head was due to low oil pressure in the rocker area due to bypassing out the set screw holes? Excellent craftsmanship as always!! You did a lot with materials you had - saved the customer $$.
That's a good point, with as much wear as the main and rod bearings had the oil pressure couldn't have been that good, meaning the top end of the engine doesn't get proper lubricant, causing wear like we saw
most definitely could have caused some premature wear on the top end. truck frame to the rescue. save the money on things that dont matter and use it on things that do.
The whole parts/parts availability issue is so bad nowdays on almost everything you work on. I've needed a few parts for my 2012 Ram over the past year and you wouldn't believe where i had to go to get them... just crazy stuff. I can't believe that covid is the sole reason for all this like many people say is the cause...
I get it trying to educate the guy but clearly he doesn’t understand that much oil on the engine is an out of service violation by itself . The other stuff is way over his head. He’s going to have to tear the truck up and be out of business before he starts to understand how serious the liability is.
@@kevinlamarr1424 he is not interested. He is only interested in profit. If he really cared he would be there with you learning to be able do some of the work himself.
i had agreed to go over this truck from start to finish and i am keeping my word. it may not mean anything to some people but it does me. if he wants to skimp and not do the liners and pistons with the heads off, thats on him. when it starts having blow by and dripping oil, he will then learn the lesson he didnt learn now. and it will cost him more later. its not safety related, so im not going to fight it.
@@j.c.smithprojects He should also respect your integrity and do his part as the truck owner to keep his implied word and legal obligation to operate a safe truck. Maybe it’s just me but if you’re coming out of a pick up to this world you might want to start looking at preparing for your first safety audit and you’re not going to pass it with this attitude.
He is willing to cut corners so tape a business card from a professional towing service to the dash and walk away. Go spend your time on what you want to do life is to short to fight it every day. Thanks for taking us along. Tom
Aftermarket and oe are usually from the same factory. Its cheaper for them to buy a run on a line thats already tooled to make the part. Just swap a logo and a box. All the mark up you see between the 2 is branding. Of course thats not every part, but most. On a side note, if you have part numbers and can read diagrams ordering yourself is the only way to fly. Parts guys skip supersedes and kits thats may be a better solution that you would see in the catalogs. Parts guys jobs is to sell the most expensive part for that commission. He doesnt care if it saves 4 hours for you or not. Finally, I think I speak for everyone when I say all that floor space in your shop is really freaking me out. Love the videos thanks for bringing me along.
166 👍's up JC thank you for sharing 😊 Anytime I take an oil pan off an engine and I always change the oil pump even if the oil pumps only been in there a 1 0 0 _ m i
Same. Several times it has proven to be the right decision on account of wear. It doesn't take much to tip the balance, block or break the pump and there goes the engine and a MUCH bigger sum of money flies away out of your pocket, first class and all that jazz. If it's old, i recondition, if it's new, i just swap it for a new one or one i've made sure is good. I usually buy spare parts in advance for things i own and for friends i help, i keep a few things in my shed. The pump, coils, several other bits, they're consumables in my eyes, in the same category with belts. You just don't play lottery with that kind of stuff. You never win.
Imho a huge problem with the dealership/shop situation is parts guys are not trained to be professionals anymore. Part of it is these places don't pay them enough to stay, they think they can just lower the pay because "it's just a parts guy". Esp with the mega dealers buying up so many stores, huge chain of "it's not my department" attitude. Well guess what, those two bozos lost their companies all those parts sales as well as lots of future sales because now you have to do their job for them, and order the parts online from someone else. Keep up the good work you two 👍👍
Parts are just getting stupidly crazy priced. Too many local dealers just want to deal with trucking companies multiple trucks. A good parts guy is worth his weight in gold
I don't know if you did this or not, but you should check the push tubes. You hold them parallel to the floor about 6 to 8 inches up and drop them if it rings its good if it goes thud its bad. The ends are pressed on and sometimes they leak and get oil in them and they just don't work right. Also on the disc versus spoke wheels the tire runs straighter with disc wheels.
42:46 i've had that, and i confronted the fellow with a similar trade and he said "well, then go buy that one then" and to that i said "you can bet your sweet a$$ i will". He called me back. We did the deal, no questions asked. Some people live in their own little world with delusions grander than Olympus Mons.
That's kind of what the deal is with big trucks. Most of the work that's been done on them is half assed. The owners have been ripped off if they have to rely on shops usually. Then you find this big mess and the owner is like" but I already spent a fortune?" It's a tough game. You can run the old Iron but you gotta know you ass from your elbow. Lol.
that is exactly what he said when he brought me the first pete that the "i know a guy" did the frame stretch on. it was an absolute waste of time, money and materials. it all needed ripped out and started over.
Maybe the GM of that Cummins dealer needs to hear about your experience so he can have a little attitude adjustment with the guy you were dealing with…
For those who are not truck drivers. That area that he runs in is the Chesapeake Bay Watershed Area among others.That’s not the same as the bay itself. In that Ohio Pennsylvania Maryland area they have EPA inspectors who will fine you and put your truck out of service for oil leaks because of potential water pollution . You will then have to have the truck towed from wherever it is to your shop. I have seen small fleet owners have to enter into a decree with EPA to pay for cleanup by a certified EPA cleaner and monitoring of the Anacostia River because of oil on the ground at their yard from leaking trucks going into the Chesapeake Bay via a contributory to the Anacostia. Oil leaks are serious business and very expensive.
It's insane to haul water without Jake's, all your doing all day is starting and stopping. Old truck like that typical drivers will flat spot the tires eventually.
its all local. the truck never sees over 50 when loaded. a good driver doesnt need jakes. the problem is most good drivers are getting up in years and many younger ones think their driving their empty pick up.
JC, I know he might be your friend, doesn't make him a good customer. You going to have to tell him your way or no time to stuff for. Cummins seem to have changed since corporate bought up dealers
people dont change 50 years of doing things their way to my way overnight. it takes time. he is making improvements and i see it. doesnt mean i dont get aggravated at times but he is so much better. i told him i would see this truck through and i will. i keep my word.
You take the truck to somebody who you know is not going to rip you off and is going to do it right. However, you want to supervise/ approve his work and override his expert opinion with your zero knowledge? Why not just go to a fix what’s broke only shop? Another thing, how do you think increased stopping distance makes sense? The cost of hitting somebody is going to be way more than restoring the jakes.
kevin, the world is full of these exact same people. people are asking me constantly to work on their truck. they all want it done my way. until they find out what my way costs. then they do the exact same thing he does. they try to nickel and dime everything. it is the world we live in. i wouldnt run this truck everyday without jakes if i had an opportunity to have them.
@@j.c.smithprojects The difference between a truck driver and a person who can drive a truck. It’s fine to get into a vocational truck and fix as you make the money, learn the right way to do things and increase your skills and knowledge. To not want to listen or learn to somebody acting in your best interest is idiotic and insulting. Many fatal accidents started out as refusing to do simple repairs in the name of being cheap.
@@j.c.smithprojects It’s going to costs a good bit of money to get my truck and lowboy to how I want them but they’ll sit until I do everything the way I want it done which is everything new so I got no worries about having skipped something
you have never seen me skimp on anything safety related. if he wants to cheap out on certain things that are not safety related.....so be it. it may cost him later but it only costs him.
“You can’t bring me something because you want it done my way and then on the other hand tell me we’re not going to do it your way.”
Well said brother!
Two things I hate is throwing good money after bad and doing a job twice. I'm glad you put your foot down.
SO much VALUABLE (Priceless?) information in your videos, thank you for sharing!!
Do you have a Clevite dealer close by? A shop I used to work at we used all Clevite parts and in frame kits and I never saw a comeback over the two years I worked there.
A good way to find those oil leaks is to steam clean the engine and add a dye to the oil and use an UV light. Caterpillar has a dye that works well for that.
Great video J.C.Smith really enjoy watching you work on this truck. It sucks that you can't get part's the way you want them. But when the local guy isn't interested in doing business. You did what you had to do to get this truck back together. Looking forward to your next video stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
Another great video taught me alot once again thank you sir very much. And I bet you have the prettiest assistant and camera operator on RUclips you are a blessed man
You do very good work. You need to give you and your wife a lot of credit.
Nice job on the toolbox mounting J.C 🙂👍 It's a shame he just wants the engine put back together like it is
Mrs.J.C. does a great job as the camera person. Shots are clear and steady. I see a picture of Jeff in the lower left hand corner. How is he feeling? I hope well.
Ck out Bearings Inc. Last I knew, if they're still around, only sold USA.
A friend had a boat n trlr with a bad bearing. None of the local parts stores could id the bearing. On a suggestion I went to Bearings Inc. The man not only id the bearing but tracked the number changes over the years.
"We've got one in Memphis," he said I had it the next morning in Olympia.
Great Video! Do you think the metalic flake in the oil on the head was due to low oil pressure in the rocker area due to bypassing out the set screw holes? Excellent craftsmanship as always!! You did a lot with materials you had - saved the customer $$.
That's a good point, with as much wear as the main and rod bearings had the oil pressure couldn't have been that good, meaning the top end of the engine doesn't get proper lubricant, causing wear like we saw
most definitely could have caused some premature wear on the top end. truck frame to the rescue. save the money on things that dont matter and use it on things that do.
@@j.c.smithprojects absolutely agree!!
The whole parts/parts availability issue is so bad nowdays on almost everything you work on. I've needed a few parts for my 2012 Ram over the past year and you wouldn't believe where i had to go to get them... just crazy stuff. I can't believe that covid is the sole reason for all this like many people say is the cause...
You need to stop wasting your time with this dude and his truck.
I get it trying to educate the guy but clearly he doesn’t understand that much oil on the engine is an out of service violation by itself . The other stuff is way over his head. He’s going to have to tear the truck up and be out of business before he starts to understand how serious the liability is.
@@kevinlamarr1424 he is not interested. He is only interested in profit. If he really cared he would be there with you learning to be able do some of the work himself.
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👍👌👏 Exactly respectively definitely! Sometimes one must simply protect himself.
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i had agreed to go over this truck from start to finish and i am keeping my word. it may not mean anything to some people but it does me. if he wants to skimp and not do the liners and pistons with the heads off, thats on him. when it starts having blow by and dripping oil, he will then learn the lesson he didnt learn now. and it will cost him more later. its not safety related, so im not going to fight it.
@@j.c.smithprojects
He should also respect your integrity and do his part as the truck owner to keep his implied word and legal obligation to operate a safe truck. Maybe it’s just me but if you’re coming out of a pick up to this world you might want to start looking at preparing for your first safety audit and you’re not going to pass it with this attitude.
He is willing to cut corners so tape a business card from a professional towing service to the dash and walk away. Go spend your time on what you want to do life is to short to fight it every day. Thanks for taking us along. Tom
hello j.c & mrs. smith & it's is is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks j.c. & mrs. smith friends randy
Aftermarket and oe are usually from the same factory. Its cheaper for them to buy a run on a line thats already tooled to make the part. Just swap a logo and a box. All the mark up you see between the 2 is branding. Of course thats not every part, but most.
On a side note, if you have part numbers and can read diagrams ordering yourself is the only way to fly. Parts guys skip supersedes and kits thats may be a better solution that you would see in the catalogs. Parts guys jobs is to sell the most expensive part for that commission. He doesnt care if it saves 4 hours for you or not.
Finally, I think I speak for everyone when I say all that floor space in your shop is really freaking me out.
Love the videos thanks for bringing me along.
I bet those oil line plugs being missing are the cause of the low oil pressure 😂
The other big cam Cummins engine in that other truck is a prime candidate to swop out that 6v in his other road truck lol
nice press I think,, always good videos jc
Good Job... Cool
Thanks for the video.
166 👍's up JC thank you for sharing 😊
Anytime I take an oil pan off an engine and I always change the oil pump even if the oil pumps only been in there a 1 0 0 _ m i
Nice job
Your way or the high way 😅
Same. Several times it has proven to be the right decision on account of wear. It doesn't take much to tip the balance, block or break the pump and there goes the engine and a MUCH bigger sum of money flies away out of your pocket, first class and all that jazz.
If it's old, i recondition, if it's new, i just swap it for a new one or one i've made sure is good. I usually buy spare parts in advance for things i own and for friends i help, i keep a few things in my shed. The pump, coils, several other bits, they're consumables in my eyes, in the same category with belts. You just don't play lottery with that kind of stuff. You never win.
in this case the oil pump is external so it could be done later if needed.....but it is just good practice to replace it now.
Imho a huge problem with the dealership/shop situation is parts guys are not trained to be professionals anymore. Part of it is these places don't pay them enough to stay, they think they can just lower the pay because "it's just a parts guy". Esp with the mega dealers buying up so many stores, huge chain of "it's not my department" attitude. Well guess what, those two bozos lost their companies all those parts sales as well as lots of future sales because now you have to do their job for them, and order the parts online from someone else.
Keep up the good work you two 👍👍
I always steam cleaned the heck out of them before pulling the rocker boxes, makes the job much easier.
if i knew i was going to take it apart, i would have.
Was gonna say the same thing till J.C. Pointed out what he was looking for… probably find more leaks while dirty. Definitely harder to work on though.
Daytons are great when the tires pass you.
You hear that more day to day about people not wanting to do there job as like the dealer with parts list
Parts are just getting stupidly crazy priced. Too many local dealers just want to deal with trucking companies multiple trucks. A good parts guy is worth his weight in gold
Question why would someone remove the Jake brakes?
it was not being used as a commercially hauling truck. they were not needed. they are valuable. and likely sold.
I don't know if you did this or not, but you should check the push tubes. You hold them parallel to the floor about 6 to 8 inches up and drop them if it rings its good if it goes thud its bad. The ends are pressed on and sometimes they leak and get oil in them and they just don't work right. Also on the disc versus spoke wheels the tire runs straighter with disc wheels.
yes. i have read that on the cummins manual.
lol i ment to ask last night on the live chat and forgot but what r u planning todo with dusty international in the back of ur shop?
its on the list to finish and sell off.
Have an affordable used 855 rocker box if you still need one.
yes. if it is correct.
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42:46 i've had that, and i confronted the fellow with a similar trade and he said "well, then go buy that one then" and to that i said "you can bet your sweet a$$ i will". He called me back. We did the deal, no questions asked. Some people live in their own little world with delusions grander than Olympus Mons.
That's kind of what the deal is with big trucks. Most of the work that's been done on them is half assed. The owners have been ripped off if they have to rely on shops usually. Then you find this big mess and the owner is like" but I already spent a fortune?" It's a tough game. You can run the old Iron but you gotta know you ass from your elbow. Lol.
that is exactly what he said when he brought me the first pete that the "i know a guy" did the frame stretch on. it was an absolute waste of time, money and materials. it all needed ripped out and started over.
The center box you can see daylight in the corner
Maybe the GM of that Cummins dealer needs to hear about your experience so he can have a little attitude adjustment with the guy you were dealing with…
Yeah, the GM needs a copy of this video emailed into his inbox PDQ!
@@brettt8246
I’m sure he does that several times a day because he’s pretty comfortable doing it like there’s no consequences.
For those who are not truck drivers. That area that he runs in is the Chesapeake Bay Watershed Area among others.That’s not the same as the bay itself. In that Ohio Pennsylvania Maryland area they have EPA inspectors who will fine you and put your truck out of service for oil leaks because of potential water pollution . You will then have to have the truck towed from wherever it is to your shop. I have seen small fleet owners have to enter into a decree with EPA to pay for cleanup by a certified EPA cleaner and monitoring of the Anacostia River because of oil on the ground at their yard from leaking trucks going into the Chesapeake Bay via a contributory to the Anacostia. Oil leaks are serious business and very expensive.
I'd gladly pay more for USA products and real customer service, unfortunately I am in the minority in extreme.
I think you to get a new sweet shirt
I hate those hub set ups too
It's insane to haul water without Jake's, all your doing all day is starting and stopping. Old truck like that typical drivers will flat spot the tires eventually.
its all local. the truck never sees over 50 when loaded. a good driver doesnt need jakes. the problem is most good drivers are getting up in years and many younger ones think their driving their empty pick up.
@@j.c.smithprojects people all around are tough now days, I'm glad I'm old school.
Paint it back
JC, I know he might be your friend, doesn't make him a good customer.
You going to have to tell him your way or no time to stuff for.
Cummins seem to have changed since corporate bought up dealers
people dont change 50 years of doing things their way to my way overnight. it takes time. he is making improvements and i see it. doesnt mean i dont get aggravated at times but he is so much better. i told him i would see this truck through and i will. i keep my word.
You take the truck to somebody who you know is not going to rip you off and is going to do it right. However, you want to supervise/ approve his work and override his expert opinion with your zero knowledge?
Why not just go to a fix what’s broke only shop?
Another thing, how do you think increased stopping distance makes sense? The cost of hitting somebody is going to be way more than restoring the jakes.
kevin, the world is full of these exact same people. people are asking me constantly to work on their truck. they all want it done my way. until they find out what my way costs. then they do the exact same thing he does. they try to nickel and dime everything. it is the world we live in. i wouldnt run this truck everyday without jakes if i had an opportunity to have them.
@@j.c.smithprojects
The difference between a truck driver and a person who can drive a truck. It’s fine to get into a vocational truck and fix as you make the money, learn the right way to do things and increase your skills and knowledge. To not want to listen or learn to somebody acting in your best interest is idiotic and insulting. Many fatal accidents started out as refusing to do simple repairs in the name of being cheap.
@@j.c.smithprojects
It’s going to costs a good bit of money to get my truck and lowboy to how I want them but they’ll sit until I do everything the way I want it done which is everything new so I got no worries about having skipped something
you have never seen me skimp on anything safety related. if he wants to cheap out on certain things that are not safety related.....so be it. it may cost him later but it only costs him.
i thought i saw posts of you using the truck and lowboy? has something changed?
Nobody cares because they still get their paycheck