If you want to learn more about the Mithradatic wars, I highly recommend this one "The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates, Rome's Deadliest Enemy" by Adrienne Mayor
Man, what a great moment at 9:10. Testing and probing for 9 minutes... until someone makes a mistake, your opponent tries to exploit it, you're determined to not let him and BOOM the real war erupts.
I really like this massive battles, and I do think that having more commander makes it feel more... "alive" and "realistic", as you say, armies more like complex organisms adapting to the battle field
Pontus should get Pontic Legionaires. They were known to imitate roman legions and adopted their fighting skills to their own native pontic swordsmen. They should also mercenary unit which is Silician Pirates...
These Rome 2 presentations remind me of a documentary series called "Decisive Battles" presented by.Mathew Seattle, except that the said documentary used Rome 1 instead of Rome 2. You guys should check it out.
Damn, These naked warriors were entirely wasted IMO. I know its hard with all that micro but a good charge on the roman relieving force might have slowed their advance and give time to your frontline and chariots to break the bulk of their force... but wow, what a battle!
I'd like to recommend some books that you might like to read. The Forgotten Legion The Silver Eagle And The Road to Rome I think you'll really enjoy the if you decide to get them!
Rome 2 does seem a lot more realistic to me than Rome1 or medival 2. I mean.. Imagine you're a roman trying to invade Parthia and this happens... Yes, you won the battle, but you just lost your command structure, the Campaign is over. And Parthia? Yes, your infantry would get chewed up, because all you rely on for that are a few crappy hill tribes. Your cavalry however could do critical strikes. And I don't just mean killing generals, but hitting supply lines and foraging parties, essentially forcing them to be so aggressive. Parthians don't need to push the romans back, they just needed to cripple their army forcing them to withdraw, and that's probably how they did it in the past. In reality you would've called this battle a victory. Your job would've been done.
Does cover like grass and woods actually give a defence bonus against missile weapons in Rome II? I thought it was just stealth; what other things does it do that I might not realise?
I changed the title because the wars seem to be referred to as Mithridates online but Mithradates is an alternate spelling used by the book I read on the topic and loved: "The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates, Rome's Deadliest Enemy" by Adrienne Mayor
I've done a little DEI for campaign and it was fun but slow. Seeing as how this went like half an hour on vanilla it would have taken forever with mods
Mithridates claimed dependency to the Achemeneshid Persian Kings and the ancient Iranian sun God Mithra :) and he wanted to recreate the Persian Empire by making alliances uniting the Armenians and the Parthians against the Romans
The vids are amazing but plse stop yalking about history sure I like when u say who they are but that one was way to long but anyways keep up the great work
TheMisterw1996 Actually they were post-Marian, Marius had already implemented his reforms before Mithridates invaded Asia Minor. The Marian Reforms took place in 107BC whereas the Mithridatic Wars started in 88BC.
TheMisterw1996 There seems to be confusion here. There were three major slave revolts. The first one was from 135 BC to 132 BC, the second from 104 BC to 100 BC and the third and most popular one was from 73 BC to 71 BC. Marian reforms were carried out in 107 BC, just before the 2nd servile revolt and nearly 40 years before the last one. The Mithridatic Wars took place between 88 BC (beginning of the first one) and 63 BC (end of the last one, death of Mithridates VI, Kingdom of Pontus becoming a Roman client state).
If you want to learn more about the Mithradatic wars, I highly recommend this one "The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates, Rome's Deadliest Enemy" by Adrienne Mayor
Have you read The Poison King yourself.
I like the history you do, went head and I hope to work on some of my own for the Attila gameplay
I'm reading The Poison King right now, it's really good. Mithradates is such an interesting guy.
mrstarfishh33 yup, loved it
THFE Productions Ok thanks for reply, I read a bit of it like 2 years ago in a book store. I will have to pick it up.
You are undoubtedly the best channel to watch total war on, you show the game to its fullest.
OH snap, now this is my jam. Love anything Pontus.
Man, what a great moment at 9:10. Testing and probing for 9 minutes... until someone makes a mistake, your opponent tries to exploit it, you're determined to not let him and BOOM the real war erupts.
I really like this massive battles, and I do think that having more commander makes it feel more... "alive" and "realistic", as you say, armies more like complex organisms adapting to the battle field
it's those moments that I honestly like best
Lucius Lucullus and Pompey the Great are the other Generals who fought against Mithridates and his ally the king of Armenia.
Sulla as well
Superb historical commentary. Good work and I did enjoy this.
Pontus should get Pontic Legionaires.
They were known to imitate roman legions and adopted their fighting skills to their own native pontic swordsmen. They should also mercenary unit which is Silician Pirates...
Miss these vids, the information and tactics 👌 my favourite RUclipsr
Loved it ! I think it's one of my favrite massive battle so far. I loved the history related , also.
Hey Oakley how about another siege massive battle? the Alexandria one was epic as hell!
These Rome 2 presentations remind me of a documentary series called "Decisive Battles" presented by.Mathew Seattle, except that the said documentary used Rome 1 instead of Rome 2. You guys should check it out.
can you do a massive battle with the rome-parthian war
Or a massive campaign?
Mithradates was actually allied with Spartacus and Quintus Sertorius.
Very nice, the romans really turned that around. Also learned a lesson , don't horde your money use it to hire mercenaries while you can lol
Heck of a battle, loved it.
Love your vids man keep it up
is there any the Third Mithridatic War or similar movies that you guys would recommend
Really cool video I like your plans
Damn, These naked warriors were entirely wasted IMO. I know its hard with all that micro but a good charge on the roman relieving force might have slowed their advance and give time to your frontline and chariots to break the bulk of their force... but wow, what a battle!
It was Lucullus btw with Mithridates the name you were looking for :)
I'd like to recommend some books that you might like to read.
The Forgotten Legion
The Silver Eagle
And The Road to Rome
I think you'll really enjoy the if you decide to get them!
this are massive battles' why not play with bigger unit size? my games there 520 men units
its multiplayer. :P
some epic camerawork there
Rome 2 does seem a lot more realistic to me than Rome1 or medival 2. I mean..
Imagine you're a roman trying to invade Parthia and this happens... Yes, you won the battle, but you just lost your command structure, the Campaign is over.
And Parthia? Yes, your infantry would get chewed up, because all you rely on for that are a few crappy hill tribes. Your cavalry however could do critical strikes. And I don't just mean killing generals, but hitting supply lines and foraging parties, essentially forcing them to be so aggressive. Parthians don't need to push the romans back, they just needed to cripple their army forcing them to withdraw, and that's probably how they did it in the past.
In reality you would've called this battle a victory. Your job would've been done.
How does the side that I'm rooting for never win and your battles? And how do you do a video about Mithrodates without mentioning poison even once?
The most enjoyable battle yet!!! Keep it up!
Does cover like grass and woods actually give a defence bonus against missile weapons in Rome II? I thought it was just stealth; what other things does it do that I might not realise?
Theta_Sigma I don't believe it gives a bonus but some arrows/javelins get stuck on trees so there are less coming in to kill your men
Joshua Wear
Won't that apply (potentially even more so) for your own outgoing arrows too, though?
I guess it does but much less because your archers can see the trees they are trying to avoid? I didn't make the game so these are just based on logic
Loved it!!
that was a great battle
Shouldn't it be "Mithridatic", as in Mithridates?
Or is Mithradates an alternative spelling?
I changed the title because the wars seem to be referred to as Mithridates online but Mithradates is an alternate spelling used by the book I read on the topic and loved: "The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates, Rome's Deadliest Enemy" by Adrienne Mayor
Towards the end both sides somehow ended up swaping sides lol
Fantastic
what game is this?
I have a dream of you doing these massive battles with Divide et Impera *-*
I've done a little DEI for campaign and it was fun but slow. Seeing as how this went like half an hour on vanilla it would have taken forever with mods
Mithridates claimed dependency to the Achemeneshid Persian Kings and the ancient Iranian sun God Mithra :) and he wanted to recreate the Persian Empire by making alliances uniting the Armenians and the Parthians against the Romans
what is this game
do a defence of Theodosian wall
*Spoilers*
I really thought the Ponitc forces had this. This is a testament to the staying power of Roman infantry
You should be doing podcasts
Ephesian Vespers,88 bc.
8:12 The Asiatic Vespers
The vids are amazing but plse stop yalking about history sure I like when u say who they are but that one was way to long but anyways keep up the great work
25:38 Who else thought this was their skype?
SEVENTH
Great battle but romans should have been pre-marian.
The Mithridatic wars were post-marian.
Michael Johnson unfortunaly, it's not. since these wars took place at the sam time as the servile revolts (around 70 BC) it means it was pre-marian
TheMisterw1996 Actually they were post-Marian, Marius had already implemented his reforms before Mithridates invaded Asia Minor. The Marian Reforms took place in 107BC whereas the Mithridatic Wars started in 88BC.
TheMisterw1996 There seems to be confusion here. There were three major slave revolts. The first one was from 135 BC to 132 BC, the second from 104 BC to 100 BC and the third and most popular one was from 73 BC to 71 BC.
Marian reforms were carried out in 107 BC, just before the 2nd servile revolt and nearly 40 years before the last one. The Mithridatic Wars took place between 88 BC (beginning of the first one) and 63 BC (end of the last one, death of Mithridates VI, Kingdom of Pontus becoming a Roman client state).
sorry, my bad you are indeed right. should've researshed better and not thinking i know the answer
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