Futaba 10PX 10-Channel R/C Transmitter
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2022
- The new 10PX surface rc transmitter is here and loaded with 10-channel capabilities, 40 model memory and it can be used as a gaming controller. So today, let's checkout this epic r/c radio and see all that if offers.
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This guy has the absolute best deminore for these types of videos. Hes chill hes knowledgeable descriptive and gets technical on a level that everyone can understand and hes not over the top but supplies and demonstrates the perfect amount of energy! I would love to pick this guys brain with questions I have on my build. So many many varieties of parts out there this dude seems to know details about them more then the average person on a huge variety of parts to where I get a bit lost. I've learned so much already from him but it's not enough.
The Rolls Royce of radios
Spektrum really needs to get their act together. They have nothing like the 7PXR/10PX; they even discontinued the DX6R without replacing it.
It's because they like to let their customers do the testing rather than fork out for R&D. When it goes tits up, the item gets discontinued.
I saved up and got the 7pxr and one month later the 10 px came out . Man I was dirty . But the 7 is still a lovely remote to use . Thanks for the rundown.
What a beast of a transmitter! Great presentation.
Thanks for the video, Amain & Brett. Just got my 10PX switching from a 4PM+. It feels so great when you hold it on hand and so much precise comparing to 4PM+.
“Yo dog. I heard like you like switches, so, I put switches on your switches.”
Have 1993 Futaba Mangum Junior fp-2bka have to love there controllers will last forever.
By far the best rc channel on youtube. I love this guy! I'm just getting back into rc after 15 years off. Can anyone tell me how the castle speed controls and brushless motors perform and can someone recommend a good low profile servo? I'm building a losi 22x4. Thanks in advance!
I don’t even have an RC car yet and I understood very little of what you said when it comes to it’s incredible features but I want one of these things so badly haha! Great video dude. New subscriber ✌🏻
A monster of a presentation Brett💯💎
Nice1 for sharing
This has more switches than Alexa🤤
Just bought mine from you guys thank you for the info and very quick delivery
Glad we could help Neil and thanks for watching the videos! If you ever need anything, you can shoot us a comment here.
-Brett
Great video, Brett!
Hey Rich! Thanks.
-Brett
Awesome transmitter and great review
From all my transmitters, futaba has the most hussle free communication protocols..
Me to futaba has always been pretty straight forward For me anyways I have a problem with spectrum stuff my brain don’t comprehend spectrum but comprehend Futaba I just don’t understand it and as far as programming a Traxxas controller forget it I use them dumbco raidios 🤣🤣
@@lanewhite6320 Traxxas has still not fixed steering end-points on their latest 4-channel TSM receivers ( TRX6533 ), which is disappointing.
BTW: the bluetooth module is quite handy but the app is confusing.
At that price there should be a menu option for 'massage with happy ending'
Clarifying something you said; The difference between the two receivers isn't that one is for nitro and the other for electric; The R404SBS-E is for indoor models.
In the mid 80's I bought a Futaba FP3-PG system. It was their top of the line Tx for surface vehicles. It had a lot of rotary knobs and switches, for it's day. And it had a swivel head so that lefties could use it. It was about as sophisticated as a rock, compared to this 10PX. lol...
Thank you for sharing a very helpful video, my friend👍🎶🤝
That radio is NUTS! And I thought my Flysky GT3 was up there!
You need to check out the Flysky Noble Pro
I still have my 3PK and still love it! maybe one day I’ll upgrade to this or the 7pxr “someday” it’s a price of a used civic 😊
Fun fact mclaren paddles are linked you can push or pullback on them to shift
The RC world could be going out of business eventually, especially with prices this high during a recession. Food and oil are running at a premium and keep skyrocketing in price.
As it was with the 7PX, that is their premium/flagship radio system. They have other models that don't require such deep pockets to purchase.
Those cheaper models are most likely more desirable to use, due to fewer unnecessary features and associated complications.
Fewer complications = easier racing = more fun.
I think the Noble will give this a good run for the money regards functions and price. The performance of the Noble is great to.
tell us you bought the noble instead without telling us.
I use Futaba radios for all my models, but I don't get the 10PX. Can 10 channels really be used for a surface vehicle, especially given that most are just on/off switches? It seems that this is just cover to raise the price more. The real tech here is the F4G protocol and the color touchscreen. Otherwise this is just a 4PM (which I have). I really don't like how Futaba segments features like this - for example, telemetry for 3rd-channel applications (like Castle ESCs) is not enabled on the 4PM despite it technically being capable of it.
Imagine playing NES RC Pro Am on an emulator with this!
Or Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Have you tried VRC? RC pro am was awesome when I was a 80's kid lol.
I ordered a Traxxas Sledge thru It's website, i plan to replace the TQi with a new transmitter. Since i used Futaba radios in my most of my RCs, looks like i got a choice,
Congrats on getting the Sledge! That truck is a beast.
-Brett
Nice one
That is awesome! I think you should build an rc and use all 10 channels. It would make for a great video.
Cool idea. Maybe on a crawler? How would you do it, that's so many channels to fill.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Good question, I'm sure you'll come up with something cool you guys always do.
im using 8 channels
To pricey for me and way more channels than I would ever need.
love my 7pxr to much to upgrade as it does more then i need but damn i wish i could play games with it
That price though!
good review thanks
very expansive radio but if you want top quality there is a price to pay
😮 nice. Way out of my pay grade. I'll stick with my Flysky nb4. 👍
Expensive but worth all the 💰
Thank you. Great review. Your communication skills are amazing. Question. What are those games the 10px is compatible with?
The transmitter works universally as a usb controller, like a playstation or xbox controller would. So unfortunately, there is no list of compatible games.
-Brett
Thank you for showing me this . Now I know not get it …. I’m trying to find a remote WITH LONG RANGE
Love Futaba always have but all this is really getting exspinsive I just don’t think with the RC world is putting out right now is worth the money they’re asking for it don’t get me wrong I’ve got a lot of RC‘s and I’ve been in it for over 20 years but think about it I would love this radio but I’m gonna wait till I can get it either on sale or wait till next year or something along them lines
Some people can afford things you can’t afford.
When 11 comes out it be on sale 😆
I like having multiple remotes even my mid grade ones I only have one or 2 on emn
Gotta agree. Nothing against showcasing a new transmitter for their sponsored racers but many of us won’t even consider this. It’s nice but at this price, it’s pretty much overpaying for the same features you’d get in the FlySky Noble NB4.
Nothing against Futaba and granted their QC is much more consistent than FlySky but when a competitor can offer many of the same features of the 7PXR at a greatly reduced price point… They should be concerned.
@@smolscale
$$$$ no problem it’s the principal
It needs a few more buttons before I jump into one, I don't know i love buttons though darn you futaba.
here's a question, can u assign 2 switches to one channel?, at the moment I'm using the PD1 and PD2 on separate channels and mixing them, i lose one channel doing this, PD1 is for 50% of servo movement from center, PD2 uses the other half.
Channel 5 and 6 are used, but channel 5 is sacrificed. channel 6 gives me that servo functionality, used for a gearbox shifter
I'm waiting for a version that omits the screen and puts a cell phone dock in its place. It'd be a smart move in my opinion. Offer a higher caliber radio for less and have less supply chain to worry about for producing units. And let's be real, the nicest transmitter display on the market would pale in comparison to even a midrange phone display these days.
That's what Traxxas gives you (kind of) and it's terrible in my opinion; notifications and calls popping up on the screen.
@@alimaleki217 The Traxxas setup is hardly more than a telemetry setup, and not a great one at that. I'm talking about system integration. You could even take it as far as making the connection wireless so your pit person can make on the fly adjustments and monitor telemetry while you focus on driving the car.
@@aegixxer1 That’s why I said “kind of”! Maybe one day but it I’m not sure the market for such a product is big enough for Futaba and others to make the investment. Plus, I can’t imagine too many people are willing to pay $800 for a transmitter that doesn’t have a screen!
@@alimaleki217 I know its nothing we'll see anytime soon, or possibly ever, but one of my arguments is that they could actually make the transmitter more affordable by not having to source a screen. Battery life could be improved as well since the phone or tablet would have its own battery to power the screen, taking a pretty significant load off the transmitter battery.
Hopefully the 7px will go down in price.
How would you compare this futaba to the new Radiolink RC8X?
I just upgraded from a 2 channel to a 4 channel receiver on my trail truck and I don’t know what to use all the channels for I don’t know what I would do with a 10 channel lol
Would this work for my Traxxas stampede 4x4 vxl electric?
wait, this can be used to play video games?? woah
Why only a four channel receiver? I was looking at this for my Traxxas TRX4 and I need five channels.
im sure there is a need for this somewhere. can someone help me with what that need it? what is that need that justifies the 800 dollars? is it for crawlers? high speed vehicles? please help me understand
Damn!!!
With the futaba hub has anyone tested a different servo other then the sbus servos? That is pretty much keeping me from switching to this controller. Sbus servos are pretty pricey.
Hmm, not that I know of. It's pretty particular to use Futuba gear with the system.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies ok just wondering because the futaba gyd550 stated to use futaba servos and I tried a reved servo and it worked good. Want to use the extra channels that this provides but don’t want to get stuck to just using futaba gear. Maybe a test you guys could do?
I'll save 620 bucks and buy a flysky noble, which does just about everything the futaba does and buy 2 new race buggies to boot, thank you very much.
wheres the rmx videos?
Can you connect a Futaba SBUS servo directly to the SBUS port on this receiver or do you need a hub as well?
I believe so, but while limiting some functions, like expandability.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Thanks Brett, that's very helpful
Can this be switched to left handed?
[Laughs in FlySky]
No but in all seriousness, my NB4 can run a 12-channel receiver and BUS to even more like the 10PX.
Futaba make great products but… their name isn’t really holding people. Many longtime Futaba devotees are slowly moving away to cheaper transmitters like the NB4 because they offer many of the same features at a lower price point.
What doesn’t help matters is how you are insisted to use ONLY Futaba products to get the “full Futaba experience” which to many is too cost prohibitive, especially when building a competition drift chassis.
Nothing against Futaba but I’m much happier owning the NB4 than I would’ve owning a similarly spec’d 3PV.
Futaba should look into making a competitor to the NB4 that’s similarly priced with many of the same features. Maybe then perhaps they could recapture the RC market like they had in the past.
Jesus this thing has more buttons than my PC flight stick. What do you guys even use them for? I doubt you need all those buttons to control radar and weapon systems to shoot down MIG's like I do on a flightstick (or maybe you do, and if so, I want to know what RC cars you guys are using!)
Still not really capable as a crawler controller due to no easy 3 position momentary switching.
What would you use something like that for definitely not an RC car somebody tell me maybe a robot
Is the touchscreen capacitive or resistive?
We're not sure and it's not mentioned on the Futaba page. You can use your finger or a stylus on the screen if that helps.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies I appreciate your reply. Thank you.
Love the futaba products but until they can get close to the flysky nb4 price and receivers cost I will never purchase one.
You pay for the consistent quality with Futaba and even Sanwa and KO but yeah, it’s hard to justify the cost when the NB4 offers the same features and is a fraction of the price.
@@taimaishu-nao1922 agreed, if I was a pro racer or heavy into rc I would consider it. But as a weekend warrior on my own time. Like you said hard to justify. But I know there customer service is bar non just like Sanwa from what I've heard
I mean that’s cool and all but my DX5C does everything I need a radio to do.
Both of these servos...
My 7pxr is 557 grams with battery
Wish you guys did the easy pay...... Why not?
AMain offers the Affirm Financing Program: www.amainhobbies.com/faq-affirm-financing/i289
-Brett
They offer PayPal “Pay in 4” too. Thought about that a few times.
I did the pay pal credit and got me a M17 special edition (Gold) model. Thanks Amain Hobbies
Great where’s the water proof 10 channel receiver.
Is it worth $800
Note: does not come with battery, comes with a dry battery tray.
Batteries aren't very expensive, especially if you get something after market. I got this radio as part of a package deal with a LosI DBXLE 2.0 for a very good price, it's absolutely superb.
An excellent review of a ridiculous radio
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I can buy it... Buy im choose fly sky)
this is an old post.
$800 you can keep it.
WHY?
800 dollars, jeez
First 👌🏼
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Yikes! 800 doll hairs.
for 800 dollar is to much!!
Making adjustments on the fly is already a thing with the m12s amd m17 isn't it as long as you use there esc and servos correct? You also forgot to mention the most important thing about this radio that people will want to know the most. The price amd how much you guys are going to rape the customers with a 800 dollar price tag lol. The only people who are going to by this is the sponsard pro drivers lol
I can't stand the product segmentation and tier stacking that Futaba does with their Radios. Their Fast Response modes are only on their upper end transmitters, and require specific receivers to actually access the functionality, and then require the use of Futaba specific servos to be activated and work. Futaba doesn't make junk, and the stuff works, but that is a lot of hoops, and more specifically, a LOT of money to get a faster response time.
Meanwhile, SSR works on every Sanwa radio baring their lowest end offering. SXR works on a mid grade radio, that is arguably just as good as their top end radio, and they all use the same receivers. No feature segmentation, no special halo model receivers that cost three times as much, and any SSR/SXR compatible servo works with it. Not JUST Sanwa servos.
That said, Sanwa just launched their newest protocol, and we will see if that trend continues. But, their first offering in the new protocol is in the upper mid range, not their top tier. And it doesn't cost $800. And, I would argue, it still feels faster than Futabas best offering in terms of response speed.
I started RC 30 years ago with a Futaba, and when I came back to the hobby a few years ago, it didn't take much aide by side comparison before my first new radio purchase was a Sanwa. And it would seem Futaba wants to continue to make sure I don't buy their products, by doubling down.
4pm supports TFHSS SR rx (sbs model), so the entry level can do what the top model can do, at least before this new 10px that introduces f4g. The servos for SSR is a technical requirement, need a narrow center pulse to actually work. Any servo with the same center pulse will also work -- it doesn't need to be Futaba. That said, SR mode with an SR servo is almost 800fps (vs Sanwa 384fps) pretty "direct"! But then many racers turn their stuff down so it drives like a traxxas-level latency anyways 🤷🏻♂️
@@malATX Yes, that is a fair point on the 4PM. But that still does look at the bigger picture. That one receiver on that radio that supports that feature. There are a multitude of Sanwa receivers support SSR, multiple that support SXR, and a couple that support SUR. And all of those SSR receivers are compatible with all but their budget tier radios. You arent limited on running a faster servo response mode by virtue of radio and receiver tier to the extreme level that Futaba does.
As far as the Servos go, i run ProPerformanceRC servos in all my cars, i can run either Futaba SR or Sanwa SSR/SXR, without issue. So thats moot for me. But in general, there are multiple SSR compatible Servos out there, from several manufacturers of varying size and torque specs. As of yet, outside of ProPerformance, i know of no third party Servos advertised as being Futaba SR compatible. And to that end, even ProPerformance doesnt come right out and say it will work.
Also, i think it is worth pointing out (not that anyone will ever read our comments, ROFL!) that there is a dramatic difference between resolution, and response time. All the resolution in the world wont helps if there is significant signal path delay in getting it there. I also believe there is a difference in the way that Futaba and Sanwa calculate their frequency response. Where Futaba counts each rise and fall of the signal as a frame, where as Sanwa only counts a single full cycle. So if it were apples to apples it would be 800 to 768, or 400 to 384.
As for response speed, no one turns down the response time, or increase latency as you say. What they do is turn down the transit speed of the servo to calm it down and help remove jitters. So if you happen to lose grip on your wheel, the car doesnt slam back and forth, as the servo tracks the wheel shake on the return spring. The response time of the servo stays as fast. It is just reducing the transit speed. Some people also do this with dual rate, but you end up with some funky ass curves. So if you want more linearity, you reduce the speed. Usually it is a fast outbound speed, with a slower return to center speed. And you tune that parameter based upon the track layout. Like adding more return for a switch back. If you use a Sanwa Servo, and utilize SSL, you can actually do range of motion tuning on the servo itself through the entire sweep range.
At the end of the day, this is why we have choice to get what we want in terms of feel. And Spektrum is there to remind us of how good we have it. LOL!
@@bigbuckoramma cycle time definitely matters -- it defines the longest possible delay. If your input is right after a frame, it has to wait until the next frame. This causes a lot of jitter. The higher the frame rate, the lower the max jitter.
As for latency, both futaba and sanwa have excellent latency. But, humans are great at adapting to latency, but not great at dealing with jitter. You can see this easily in e sports. I'm sure you can't go wrong either way!
Regarding all that out/return speed stuff, I just use my fingers🤷🏻♂️
too many useless features with too many switches, dials and buttons that many will never used. Also it look outdated already. The screen quality is poor compare to cell phone screen from 10 years ago. at $799 its a waste of money. should at least have a build it camera for pictures and videos.
futaba is garbage. the hardware is all the same between tiers and models. You pay more for the software that they lock out of lower priced transmitters and unlock for the higher priced ones. the protocol is garbage. opentx and edgetx using lorawan is far superior used in fpv radios for 1/3 price of futabat. look at their aircraft radios. Its very similar the way the pricing is structured. low tier $200, mid tier $400 and top tier around under a grand. There is no way that their top surface radio is $700 when their best aircraft radio is only $1000. how can the surface radio compare in channels, mixes, latency to come that close in price? It can't. They had to make is 7 channels to make you feel like you're getting more when nobody needs more than 3 channels for surface. They have had the same price structure since 1990 milking the sport. Hopefully more companies like flysky and radiomaster will keep chipping away at their market. If Frsky makes a surface radio Futaba changes their price tiers tomorrow guaranteed
GARBAGE
Yep, you’ve described your comment perfectly.