01:26 [David Attenborough voice] Here we have a flock of Finns in their natural environment during summer. You can notice how each of them is holding a beer. For Finns, beer is essentially the elixir of life.
Sorry but we are not Finno-ugric. Genetic studies have shown that even among the Hungarian settlers the Tat-C uralic marker was only about 10%. This marker can be found among all Finno-guric peoples with high frequency, so this could mean that the settlers were partly of Finno-ugric origins. Sadly, the marker is found in high frequency among Chuvash, Baskhir, Tatar, Yakut and Buryat people, who are not Finno-ugric at all. There is linguistic relationship between Hungarian and Finno-ugric languages, but that doesn't mean we are Finno-ugric. We have almost as much Turkic relations linguistically, and we are not Turkic either.
look at all those flags in the video :D and u still dont accept estonians as nordic... the video itself proves that nordics themselves are not as nordic as they think, but more east/central asians lol :D
No matter where we live now, we should never forget, where we come from. Hajrá Magyaroszág! Much love to all my finno-ugric brothers and sisters! ♥♥♥♥♥♥
Thanks so much for uploading. I love it. Very interesting. I am black German and my passion are eastern european folk dancing and renaissance music. The clothing is incredibly beautiful, too.
@@robikaz3957 None of the Uralic languages are exactly dialects to one another -- it's not comparable as Slavic languages to one another, but more with whole Indo-European tree itself. It is more like comparing English with Persian and Russian at further points. But differences rise with "distance". But indeed, it does seem, that Hungarians have been pretty inventive with their language over past millennia. You also may find, that grammar (despite lack of common vocabulary) is way easier between all of us to one another, in great contrast to Indo-European languages: I still have hard time to figure out, how someone in history figured out, how to give sex for tableware for example. And then Indo-European speakers complain that our grammatical logic breaks for them... For comparsion, to have some idea, how Balto-Finnic may seem quite Germanic for Eastern Uralic speakers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_vocabulary#/media/File:Estonian_vocabulary.png So look Eastern-Uralic language bit Altaic for us and median southern Slavic/Iranian/Altaic -- we all have our neighbors after all - and for a quite some time too...
@@NastyfoxChannel UGRI is derived from UnGaRI: thus Ugric means, languages similar to Hungarian: Ugric = Hungarianic. Thus what other language is the most Ugric, than Magyar itself. By mine knowledge, closest languages alive to Hungarian should be Khanti and Mansy. Especially grammar.
+Andreas Stöckel Not really ugric. I'm guessing you're part Sami or Finnish then? They are both Finnic but Finnic is still part of Finno-ugric of course.
lol, what a bunch of idiots here XD Do you guys even know what the fuck you're talking about? Like, seriously? Here's some information for you: Ugric languages are Khanty, Mansi and Hungarian. That's it. Finno-permic languages include all Balto finnic languages spoken in Northeast europe, Komi languages, Udmurt languages, Mordvinic languages, Mari languages and Sami languages. The permic part is basically Komi and Udmurtian languages. The Finno part is also known as Finno-volgaic as it includes languages spoken in the Volga area. This is basically all the Balto finnic languages, Sami languages, Mordvinic languages and Mari languages. The Finnic subdivision of the Finno-ugric languages include Finnish, Estonian, Livonian, Ingrian, Vepsian, Karelian etc. Sami languages are not generally included in this Finnic group though, so i was wrong with that. Sami is in their own subgroup called Saamic languages. However, it is certainly part of the "Finno" and not the "ugric" group of Finno-ugric languages. Sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Permic_languages
Why are Finns and Estonians the only two ethnic groups shown wearing regular everyday clothing, while everyone else is only shown wearing traditional costumes?
I believe, because the majority of finno-ugric people (except Finns, Estonians and Hungarians) live in Russia. It would be pretty hard for a foreigner to find any pictures of these people and even harder to distinguish them from Russians. The ethnic costumes make it easier to do so and in many cases - the only way to do so.
@@АндрейП-у1ю Perhaps, yes. I am a Vepsian myself, from St. Petersburg, and yeah, if you saw me on the street you wouldn't really distinguish me from any other Russian.
@@kepalabapakauyourmotherisg6719 Well, it seems, that at least Estonians have considered Saxon, German, and Svenska cool: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_vocabulary#/media/File:Estonian_vocabulary.png But bits from the Baltic and Russian seem to be there too.
Yeah it's so stupid, I checked up some mansi and khanty sentences (they are the closest relatives to hungarian) and I almost understood them. And also the only foreign languages I've found very easy to pronounce are all finno ugoric, like finnish and estonian (I speak english, german and a little russian, but they are all very difficult for me to pronounce) I don't know our race, or dna can be originated from somewhere else, but I'm quite sure our language is finno ugoric.
And in Sweden and in Germany too! These days it seems that Estonian and English language are related to each other, but they are not. It was the vikings who migrated to Estonia and England and bought their language with them, so now Estonian language shares similarities with English, German and Asian languages, it's just amazing.
Fun to see such videos. As an Estonian we are mixed beyond recognition. We truly are on a crossroad of west, east, north. Now we are more similar to other Balts than Ugric. We are basically a mix of Finno Ugric, Germanic, Slavic and Baltic (that is also a mix of everything to begin with). Well we have been under Germany (gogo Teutonic Knights! :D) Russia, Sweden, Denmark so I guess it is only logical. Still we have light skinned people with brown to blondish hair though. Mostly it's brownish. :U
nice compilation with a great background music. the first picture of the 'Hungarian people' depicts some other national costume, though. at around 2:10, those ladies in that red dress are definitely not Hungarians. the second one for the Hungarians at 2:12 is allright, b/c it is a traditional dress from Transsylvania.
What is with this insane argument going on in comment sections under videos that talk about the Uralic language family? How did the Turks get involved in this? What am I missing?
Yes they did. Finns carry an astonishing amount of Haplogroup N (~60%) which is the sibling Haplogroup of O, found amongst most East Asians (Chinese & Koreans at 80%) whereas most Europeans carry Haplogroup R1a / R1b instead. Haplogroup N is also found amongst the Turkic speaking Yakuts of Northeastern Siberia at 75% and also amongst the Evenks, Oroqen, Nganasan etc.
Тhe word "eye" in different Finno-Ugric languages Proto-Uralic - *śilmä Finnish - silmä Erzyan - seljma Udmurt - śin Mari - šinča Hungarian - szém And we are not so distant :)
hungarian is closer to finnish than icelandic is to hindi and yet they're both indo-european languages. although languages are related it doesn't mean we should understand each other
Juho Uusi-Hakimo of course, Hungarian and Finnish are related, the only reason why we can't understand each other is the fact that Hungarian is Ugric (forming a grouo with Hanty and Mansi) and Finnish is (what a coincidence!) Finnic.
Jää all talvel elavad kalad ujuvad. Estonian Jään alla talvella elävät kalat uiskentelevat. Finnish Jég alatt télen eleven halak úszkálnak. Hungarian old words are similar. but hungarian is ugric and finnish is finnic
In Russia the largest number of Finno Ugric peoples, they are perfectly obedinilis with the Slavs . Russian is a mixture of Finno-Ugric peoples and the Slavs from the South, one other North
+Онищак Матвей "the baltic russians" and "the finnish" practically are genetically one and same people only dividing factor is the culture. I am not saying that we are Russians but I am saying that in essence they are Finnish. and when you mix up finn and russian you will get carelian as end result. We have one common enemy as people and that is Swedes.
+HonkeyDolemite just... No... Karelian is a finno- ugric language that split from finnish when they settled in eastern karelia while finns settled in western karelia and finland... Karelians have nothing to do with slavs.
The largest finno ugric population is in Hungary. The russian empire had the third largest finno-ugric population but stalin killed most finno ugric people in russia exept Karelians and ingerians which could immigrate Finland of they could proof their heritage.
In this video are not metioned some finno-ugric ethnic groups who lives Russia. Khanty, Mansi (they have asian apзearance, but their language is close to hungarian), Permyaks (they are close to Komi, but separates themselves. Komi means people , there are Komi-Zyrians or just Komi and Komi -Permyaks used to be called just Permyaks), Udmurts. These people up to now live proto-homeland of finno-ugric people before migratian to western lands - ural and western siberia. Here in Russia lived more finno-ugric people. Unfortunately, people of Vod` , Izhora, Chud`, Merya and Muroma are assimilated with Russians and they are lost.
@CountNadir no. scythians were taurid royal scythians from subartu(old hungary) sumer and elam. the common people were pontid mediterran. these royal scythians ruled different common poeple too (tatars, mongols, iranians) and it was the xiongnu. the scythian r1a1 y dna you find in xiongnu too.
@HungarianHistory2 indus valley is in Pakistan, gangas valley is in india. Scythians and Huns have different roots. White Huns were related to scythians yes. But turkic huns were altaic in origin
im from sweden and i have been to both russia, finland and estonia,latvia and lithuania and my conclusion is this - all people around the baltic sea have some degree of germanic,slavic, baltic and finno ugrian blood and even some iranic to from the sarmatians ! its just that the swedes and danes have more germanic, the poles more slavic, the finns and estonians more finno ugric and the russians and the balts are a mix of all the groups
You are very similar to us. From the Ural Mountains, we went to the east and you to the west, but our roots are the same, by the way, yes, I am a Turk.
The first turks have appeareced by the mixture of many finno-ugorics and some ameridians in very old past. Finno-ugoric genes are generally dominant on some tatar turks and oguz turks who are living in turkey, azerbaijan, moldava, balcans,irak, iran, some parts of russia. So they are not like mongoloid as kazak and kyrgız turks who are still the neighbours of mongols. Also some of the turkish people may have blonde or brown hair and blue or green eyes as their finno-ugoric grands.
@HungarianHistory2 that is because Indo-Europeans spread all over. R1A is associated with IE peoples. Besides Hungarians and Finns are mostly Indo-Europeans. They just don't speak IE languages.
As Hungarian archaeologist Andras Biro said that hundreds of times Magyar (Hungarian) people nothing to do with Ugrics they are Altaic. Also there is tribe still called Magyar in Kazakistan. Anyway I came here to say I like that song its ery similar to Turkish or Kazak language which dialectic is that anyone know ??
+Umut Yok Hungarians did not even descend from the ancient magyars anyway. How can an asiatic people like the magyars turn white in just a few centuries? The invading magyars were only a few thousand people compared to houndreds of thousands of REAL hungarians who were regular central europeans. Logically, most people in Hungary would have no ancestry at all to the magyars and the ones who do probably only have a small amount. Hungarians have been proven again, and again, and again to be genetically related with their neighbors.
+James Bond Actually, we are genetically and linguistically Finno-Ugric. Also, we did come from the Magyar (that means Hungarian) tribes, which were the descendants of Attila and the his Huns. Why do you think we have the name Attila? We inherited it like wealth.
it depends where in Russia. Most Russians have haplogroup R1a which is primarily a slavic haplogroup. However "Russians" living in the North(Karelia, Kola, Archangel etc) have haplogroup N which is a Finnish haplogroup, this shows us that they are actually not Russians, but rather Finns with russian names.)))
интересно как-то у эстоно-язычных товарищей вышло, и эстонцы и ливы и даже водь все People. А вот Setu это просто сету, одно название без определения, что это народ..))
@CountNadir the issyk kul silver dish stele in hungarian, with our runes. found in a scythian tomb. the uralic hypothesis is fake coz these people are from kunda -comb pottery culture and we are from pontid-kurgan culture (pre scythians) we were neighbours with 300 common words.
Nice! But how do explain that those who live in the West (Estonians, Finns, Karelians, Livonians, Saami) are blonde, blue eyed and the others in the east aren't? Hungarians aren't so light, either. I'd say it's obvious that those in the west have Viking and Balto-Slavic genes that's why the look so. If Finno-Ugric were naturally light haired etc. then all its nations would look similar, wouldn't they? Such differences in an ethnicity aren't ordinary.
@HungarianHistory2 the language contact with finns is right, we were neighbours and ancient folks before language trees, with common protolanguage! Finns are 58% uralics 20% skandinavians I1. Magyars are 30-60% (regional different) R1a1 scythohuns eastern people, and others are carpathian autochtons. we arent asians in the past too, archeogenetic MTDNA was dominant european.
@HungarianHistory2 r1a1 is a subgroup of haplogroup r and so is r1b1. haplogroup r is associated with indo-european peoples. you have r1a1 because you ARE indo-european, as are the finns only difference is language and some asiatic influence.
Purgasova territory was called in the annals of the territory that was occupied by the Erzyan people, led by Purgason (similar to the Russian parishes). About "parish", speaking in ancient, Autonomous principalities inator of the Purgas in "Mordovia", says Nikon chronicle. Two princes "in the Kingdom of Mordovians" Purgas and Puruse mentions in the 30-ies of the XIII century, a Hungarian traveler Julian. Located Purgasova parish in the lower reaches Moksha, from Temnikova-Vadskiy forests to the Oka, and the town of Arzamas (Arzamas) has become a political and economic center. Erzyan themselves called their leader Inator the Purgas, whose name is spelled with "h". Prince Purges twice mentioned in Russian Chronicles under the year 1228: ...and Murom Prince Giorgi Davidovitch entered the land of the Mordovian Murgasova parish, burnt and poisoned the crops, and killed livestock, the prisoners were sent back, and Mordvinians fled into the woods of their own, and who did not run away, those killed run over Georgievi well done. ...Came Mordva Purgason to (Lower) Novgorod, and Novgorod, and beat them. And lit the monastery of the Holy virgin and the Church, which were outside the city. On the same day, and went away, taking their dead. In the same year won Purchase Paresev son Polovtsy and killed all the Mordva and Rus Murgasova and Purges barely had time to leak. The word "Rus" in the Russian annals often call a professional army, as hereditary soldiers believed that their ancestors were Russian. In respect of the Mordovians application of this hypothesis very doubtful.
@CountNadir r1a is non aryan west eu (latin,german,celtic, dorian) were R1b1b2a ! R1a1a is Scytho-hunnic marker (in india = indus valley, indo skyths, hephtalites, vars, kushans) ...
I remember asking my mom🇺🇦 - Mom why do Russians look SOMEHOW different from us, we often don't have faces like theirs.... Even the tonality of languages correlates with Russian. This song is almost Russian but made of other words. And now I think HOW FUCKED RUSSIANS ARE STILLING THEIR SONG STYLE AS WELL.
Pores (Kantor, Pores) (? - † 9 APR 1241), Moksha king (Kantor), head of early feudal political Moksha formation, (in Russian sources it is mentioned as "Pourashava Town"), brings together a number of principalities. Had Athamas son and daughter Arcada. In Russian Chronicles of the XII and XIII centuries, PUREX is mentioned as the contemporary of Purges and his main rival. The earth United under the rule of Purusha included the basins of the rivers Tsna, WADA, the middle reaches of the rivers Moksha and Sura. Won a series of victories in the wars with the Russian principalities. With 1220 - ally Vladimir Prince Yuri in the war with Purgason and the Bulgarian Khan Aluchem for the mouth of the Oka. Supported an Alliance with the Polovtsian Khan Cotnam. The invasion of the Tatars in September of 1236 put Puree faced with a choice, as its located in the steppe zone, was opened for the Mongol cavalry. Accepting the offer of Batu, Pores became his vassal and with his troops accompanied the Mongol-Tatars in their campaign in Central Europe!!!!!
No they aren't, Swedish is Indo-European language (North Germanic) and roots of Swedish people lies mostly in northern part of middle Europe. Samis and Finno Ugrians are mostly from northern parts of Siberia.
Santtufull oh-oh... as much as you would like to be "pure" nordic, forget about it. All Scandinavia was "contaminated" by Finno-Ugri before you -"true" nordics came. And we together joyfully did this, you know, copulation- thing:))) LOL!
Santtufull With my comment I just meant, that all we here around this little puddle called The Baltic Sea are mixed genetically and culturally. But Scandinavian peninsula was inhabited by Finno-Ugri tribes before Germanic tribes arrived from the South.
@CountNadir the r1a1 is not indoeuropean coz western eu is r1b1b and the pre germans, italics, dorians (greek) were r1b! the r1a is our kurgan, scythians, sarmatian, hun marker nd we are proud scytho-huns who love the finns but we arent brothers, but best friends! the Mari people have sarmtian ancestors too! Komi too they are genetic brothers! the 7% r1a1 in Finns is ours.
as a finn, I think that one reason for the low self-respect is that we dont know really where are we from are where do we belong. we say we are europeans. yes, but we are different from other europeans in many things and our language has no common thing with european language. and we use to be pour and under the rule of others. we did not have formal language. actually we are from these finno-ugric people, and they language is close to our language. but most of them doesnt have own countries but they are living in russia and under the rule of russia. and we dont want to know anything about russia becouse it has opressed finland a lot. but thats why we dont know much of these people. but actually they are the most close to us. we as finns we need to be proud of our people and proud of finno-ugric people. we are only 5 000 000 but if we count all of us it is more than that. only estonians nd finns have theyr own country but these our brothers and sisters dont have. and there more than these that were in this video. some were droped out, maybe the maker of the video did not know them...
Alexandre Wozikowski women in finland have almost all the same genes. but differencies happen from father to son becouse father gives the y-chromosom. most men in eastern finland have still eastern genes. in west maybe 40% of men have western genes. its not that some people game from finland from west and they learned finnish. this is not the case. it is becouse some finns from western finland have went to sweden to find a job. finland was poor in those days. Also some swedes came to western part of finland. but they are clearly separeted from finns even in western finland. they are living only in some cities and towns like Vaasa, Närpiö and Kristiinan kaupunki. other places are very seperated from swedish even in west. And and many swedish-speaking people living in finland even these days does not want to speak finnish. so the finns that have some genes from the west, somebody from their family had children with some swedish. but not the all men in western finland have mixed genes. forexample my mother is from west and father from east, so propably i dont have swedesh genes. And not all the finns who have both parent from the west have swedish genes. so its just that finns have mixed little bit with swedesh wich is normal and i thnk it happed in every place.
The reason why there is a big % of swedish genes in western Finland is because finns were opressed by swedish people during the time under rule of sweden, but before all the population was 100% finish
No tatars are turkic and there no muslim graves in Mari lol and mishari are turkics and all finno-ugrics are mostly christian and some of them practice pagans there no muslim and Islam are not been conquered to russia and because there many muslim because many turkic tribe immigrated there and people from caucasus
Your iq is 60 there no finno ugrics muslim almost all of them are christian and some practice pagans like Mari and I searched they practiced orthodox and some other christian and some practicing pagans
According many studies + day life experiences Finno-Ugric people have least issues to live with Japanese people. Interestingly Swedish speaking Finnish minority did have just like Anglo Saxons.
"N1c1a (M178+): this group appeared around 10.000 BC in Northern China and gradually moved to the Baltic coast through Siberia. It has two big European subgroups, a Baltic (VL29+) and an Uralic (Z1936+). The former is common among the Baltic, while the latter among Finno-Permian and Ob-Ugric peoples. It is very rare today in Hungary but 2 out of 7 individuals were found in 10th century Magyar graves". N originated in China. Its found in a lot of ancient Chinese graves. It migrated westwards into Europe with the expansion of its sibling haplogroup. O. N is a Mongoloid haplogroup. Hence why the Swedes never accepted Finno Ugric people as caucasian back in ancient and medieval times. Nenets are the most Finno Ugric people in Europe. They carry a whopping 75 percent of the N haplogroup
+天王 The baltic group would have to be either contemporary to the swiderians-kunda's (15-10 000 years ago) or the narva people (about 10-7000 years ago). The problem is that there is no evidence of any migration in between of those two. Nenets are a result of a bottleneck.
+James Bond It is believed to have originated in southeast Asia. Everywhere N is located, it is found in Mongoloid people. It is, after all, a split from NO, O being unquestionably Mongoloid.
Crispyhornets18 Han Chinese, Koreans etc. almost any ethnic group in East Asia (other than the indigenous people of Japan like the Ainu) you name it we all have more than 80% of Haplogroup O. Haplogroup N originated in China for sure. The Yi people (彝族) in southwestern China today still carry a lot of Haplogroup N (up to 30%) and even amongst the Han Chinese there are places where Haplogroup N takes up a good 5 to 15% of their Y-DNA. Unless you are trying to tell me some random blonde hair blue eyed Europeans made the trek all the way from the Volga River down to East Asia into the dense jungles of southwestern China and settled there which doesn't make sense because no one in the right frame of mind would have moved from the plains of Europe into some random primitive jungle in Asia. In fact, southwestern China is one of the most hilly, mountainous and densely populated areas on the planet.
天王 The proto Finno-Ugrics were pale skinned, blonde blue eyed caucasians with a little bit mongoloid trait. And we are oldest natives here, we belong to paleo european family: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-European_languages
Never forget the roots, I respect and love each branch of this tree.
Much love from Finland.
Eric, hyvin sanottu
One of the most complicated language trees in the world. So proud to be Finno-Ugric
Much love to my brothers, from Finland!
There seems to be a renaissaince of finno-ugric people and languages. Cool! Nice to be part of a larger family as a Finn!
Biztosra vettem, ha megnézem a kommenteket, ott lesznek magyarok, akik a rokonságunkról vitáznak.
H3nt41_J3n0 ru hungry Hungarian🇭🇺
UGRI ← hUnGaRI
01:26 [David Attenborough voice] Here we have a flock of Finns in their natural environment during summer. You can notice how each of them is holding a beer. For Finns, beer is essentially the elixir of life.
Hungarians ARE Finno-Ugric. They have some customs that are turkic, but they are still mainly Finno-Ugric
+Evan Dunbar They are linguistically finno-ugic but not genetically like the finns and estonians. They are of course not turkic.
Genetically hungarians are completely different then Finns and estonians.
Sorry but we are not Finno-ugric. Genetic studies have shown that even among the Hungarian settlers the Tat-C uralic marker was only about 10%. This marker can be found among all Finno-guric peoples with high frequency, so this could mean that the settlers were partly of Finno-ugric origins. Sadly, the marker is found in high frequency among Chuvash, Baskhir, Tatar, Yakut and Buryat people, who are not Finno-ugric at all. There is linguistic relationship between Hungarian and Finno-ugric languages, but that doesn't mean we are Finno-ugric. We have almost as much Turkic relations linguistically, and we are not Turkic either.
Hungarians as a whole are just central Europeans with little difference from their neighbors.
Hungarians are 70-80 % finno ugrics
We are bigger than it seems :)
Greetings from Estonia!
Morjes veli!
Dźećbyr Udmurtiyś! Hello from Udmurtia!
if Finno-Ugrics would unite and with the help of NATO, Russia wuldnt even exist anymore in the aftermath lol... ;DDD
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj🌝🌝🌝
Yeah, "owls are not what they seem" :)
Estonians are beautiful people! Greetings from Finland.
Finns are too :)
Hail my fino-ugric brother.
The Ghastly Varangian and both Finns and Estonian are the best nations that Europe ever had ! Greetings from Hungary
The Ghastly Varangian Yes! ;-)
It's a given. :-)
+catsbesassy mlg Eesti paras osa Suomea ja Suomi se arveluttavampi osa Eestiä. Eesti ja Soome meil on üks;
Respect to all regions from Finland!!
look at all those flags in the video :D
and u still dont accept estonians as nordic...
the video itself proves that nordics themselves are not as nordic as they think, but more east/central asians lol :D
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj I have no idea what the fuck you're talking, but whatever.
Fino-ugric languages are very complete and so complex, the best languages just for smart people.
In your dreams.....
Miha Mihanner ah ah ah, dreamer.
alessandro arras You are a dreamer, Italy is shit hole from Europe, most atypical europeans on Europe.
Miha Mihanner no you are the only dreamer here, Italy is one of the most important country in Europe, crazy-kid.
alessandro arras I never denied that.
1:26 This cracks me up😂 This is how Finnish people look when it's summer
No matter where we live now, we should never forget, where we come from. Hajrá Magyaroszág! Much love to all my finno-ugric brothers and sisters! ♥♥♥♥♥♥
"North of the children are good people"
Thanks so much for uploading. I love it. Very interesting. I am black German and my passion are eastern european folk dancing and renaissance music. The clothing is incredibly beautiful, too.
Which bands are/were your favourites?
“Black German”
It’s like white Japanese
Sounds so ridiculous
Hungaryyyyy
+Esc Pando Music hungary is mixed now
Hungary isn't very urgic anymore unfortunately
@@robikaz3957 urgic? never even been
@@robikaz3957 None of the Uralic languages are exactly dialects to one another -- it's not comparable as Slavic languages to one another, but more with whole Indo-European tree itself. It is more like comparing English with Persian and Russian at further points. But differences rise with "distance".
But indeed, it does seem, that Hungarians have been pretty inventive with their language over past millennia.
You also may find, that grammar (despite lack of common vocabulary) is way easier between all of us to one another, in great contrast to Indo-European languages: I still have hard time to figure out, how someone in history figured out, how to give sex for tableware for example. And then Indo-European speakers complain that our grammatical logic breaks for them...
For comparsion, to have some idea, how Balto-Finnic may seem quite Germanic for Eastern Uralic speakers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_vocabulary#/media/File:Estonian_vocabulary.png
So look Eastern-Uralic language bit Altaic for us and median southern Slavic/Iranian/Altaic -- we all have our neighbors after all - and for a quite some time too...
@@NastyfoxChannel UGRI is derived from UnGaRI: thus Ugric means, languages similar to Hungarian: Ugric = Hungarianic.
Thus what other language is the most Ugric, than Magyar itself.
By mine knowledge, closest languages alive to Hungarian should be Khanti and Mansy. Especially grammar.
I just love that second example of Finnish people :D Suomi perkele \m/
xDD
:)
Suomi Magyaroszág
I'm from Costa Rica. this cultures and people are beautiful and interesting. what is name of the song ?
Komi song "Zil´-Z´ol´"
+eksiarvamus thank you
Oh my
"Finnish People"
*2nd picture*
*everyone's holding beer*
😂😂😂
That's how we Finns are tbh 😂 ;3
Estonians are no less known by their "cafe break"
I have Ugric from my grandfather came from kattuvuoma Lapland
+Andreas Stöckel Not really ugric. I'm guessing you're part Sami or Finnish then? They are both Finnic but Finnic is still part of Finno-ugric of course.
+James Bond though Lapland is Ugric you stupid
+James Bond Sami belongs to the ugric part... Karelian, estonian, finnish, veps and ingerian belong to the finno part.
lol, what a bunch of idiots here XD
Do you guys even know what the fuck you're talking about? Like, seriously?
Here's some information for you: Ugric languages are Khanty, Mansi and Hungarian. That's it.
Finno-permic languages include all Balto finnic languages spoken in Northeast europe, Komi languages, Udmurt languages, Mordvinic languages, Mari languages and Sami languages.
The permic part is basically Komi and Udmurtian languages.
The Finno part is also known as Finno-volgaic as it includes languages spoken in the Volga area. This is basically all the Balto finnic languages, Sami languages, Mordvinic languages and Mari languages.
The Finnic subdivision of the Finno-ugric languages include Finnish, Estonian, Livonian, Ingrian, Vepsian, Karelian etc. Sami languages are not generally included in this Finnic group though, so i was wrong with that. Sami is in their own subgroup called Saamic languages. However, it is certainly part of the "Finno" and not the "ugric" group of Finno-ugric languages.
Sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Permic_languages
James Bond took you for you when it call you stupid
Eläköön Suomi. Éljen Magyarország! Elagu Eesti!
Hail to Our brothers and sisters from Hungary!!!!
Why are there no Russians on the list of Finno-Ugric peoples? Ukrainian scientists have discovered that Russians are Finno-Ugrians.
Why are Finns and Estonians the only two ethnic groups shown wearing regular everyday clothing, while everyone else is only shown wearing traditional costumes?
Tooru nimen!
I believe, because the majority of finno-ugric people (except Finns, Estonians and Hungarians) live in Russia. It would be pretty hard for a foreigner to find any pictures of these people and even harder to distinguish them from Russians. The ethnic costumes make it easier to do so and in many cases - the only way to do so.
@@АндрейП-у1ю Perhaps, yes. I am a Vepsian myself, from St. Petersburg, and yeah, if you saw me on the street you wouldn't really distinguish me from any other Russian.
Suomi, Eesti, Magyar. Uralic people are cool.
Germanic ,polish,svenska?
@@kepalabapakauyourmotherisg6719
Well, it seems, that at least Estonians have considered Saxon, German, and Svenska cool: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_vocabulary#/media/File:Estonian_vocabulary.png
But bits from the Baltic and Russian seem to be there too.
@@kepalabapakauyourmotherisg6719 yes
@@kepalabapakauyourmotherisg6719They're cool too I guess. Sorry for replying four years late!
You forgot Võros, Izhorians, Khantys and Mansis.
Yeah it's so stupid, I checked up some mansi and khanty sentences (they are the closest relatives to hungarian) and I almost understood them. And also the only foreign languages I've found very easy to pronounce are all finno ugoric, like finnish and estonian (I speak english, german and a little russian, but they are all very difficult for me to pronounce) I don't know our race, or dna can be originated from somewhere else, but I'm quite sure our language is finno ugoric.
Words aside, we have almost identical grammar: logic of the language
Even basque looks closer in grammar than any other IE language
And in Sweden and in Germany too! These days it seems that Estonian and English language are related to each other, but they are not. It was the vikings who migrated to Estonia and England and bought their language with them, so now Estonian language shares similarities with English, German and Asian languages, it's just amazing.
Fun to see such videos. As an Estonian we are mixed beyond recognition. We truly are on a crossroad of west, east, north. Now we are more similar to other Balts than Ugric. We are basically a mix of Finno Ugric, Germanic, Slavic and Baltic (that is also a mix of everything to begin with). Well we have been under Germany (gogo Teutonic Knights! :D) Russia, Sweden, Denmark so I guess it is only logical. Still we have light skinned people with brown to blondish hair though. Mostly it's brownish. :U
nice compilation with a great background music.
the first picture of the 'Hungarian people' depicts some other national costume, though. at around 2:10, those ladies in that red dress are definitely not Hungarians.
the second one for the Hungarians at 2:12 is allright, b/c it is a traditional dress from Transsylvania.
What is with this insane argument going on in comment sections under videos that talk about the Uralic language family?
How did the Turks get involved in this?
What am I missing?
The turks think that uralic languages came from the turks. They claim finnish, hungarian and other people too.
@@davidbence485 thats fucking weird never heard that one before
@@codyyh9421Turks claim many things my friend
They claim Mongol and Tungus through Turanist bs
Very beautiful peoples..........very important to know these peoples........Cogratulations since Brazil........ the land of all races.
Yes they did. Finns carry an astonishing amount of Haplogroup N (~60%) which is the sibling Haplogroup of O, found amongst most East Asians (Chinese & Koreans at 80%) whereas most Europeans carry Haplogroup R1a / R1b instead.
Haplogroup N is also found amongst the Turkic speaking Yakuts of Northeastern Siberia at 75% and also amongst the Evenks, Oroqen, Nganasan etc.
Nganasan language isn't Turkic language
YummYakitori So, who the hell cares?
Fast Walrus это заботит расистов
+YummYakitori
The oldest R1a so far has been found from stone-age Karelia. Karelia - that is finnic.
YummYakitori not to mention that Finns might be related to Japanese people, once their phonetic spelling and their pronunciation are very similar.
Tbh the outfits are pretty nice
Тhe word "eye" in different Finno-Ugric languages
Proto-Uralic - *śilmä
Finnish - silmä
Erzyan - seljma
Udmurt - śin
Mari - šinča
Hungarian - szém
And we are not so distant :)
It's "Szem" in hungarian, isn't "szém"
The first image of Karelians are actually Finns
Hey !
What is the background music of this movie ?
Who can tell me ???
Komi song "Zil´-Z´ol´"
hungarian is closer to finnish than icelandic is to hindi and yet they're both indo-european languages. although languages are related it doesn't mean we should understand each other
Juho Uusi-Hakimo of course, Hungarian and Finnish are related, the only reason why we can't understand each other is the fact that Hungarian is Ugric (forming a grouo with Hanty and Mansi) and Finnish is (what a coincidence!) Finnic.
Jää all talvel elavad kalad ujuvad. Estonian
Jään alla talvella elävät kalat uiskentelevat. Finnish
Jég alatt télen eleven halak úszkálnak. Hungarian
old words are similar. but hungarian is ugric and finnish is finnic
Opaaaa! Im Estonia,Seto mix!
In Russia the largest number of Finno Ugric peoples, they are perfectly obedinilis with the Slavs . Russian is a mixture of Finno-Ugric peoples and the Slavs from the South, one other North
+Онищак Матвей "the baltic russians" and "the finnish" practically are genetically one and same people only dividing factor is the culture. I am not saying that we are Russians but I am saying that in essence they are Finnish. and when you mix up finn and russian you will get carelian as end result. We have one common enemy as people and that is Swedes.
+Онищак Матвей In Carpathian Basin live the largest number of Finno Ugric peoples: 15 million.
In Russia there are many Finno-Ugoric nations. But Russian origin - purebred Slavs .
+HonkeyDolemite just... No... Karelian is a finno- ugric language that split from finnish when they settled in eastern karelia while finns settled in western karelia and finland... Karelians have nothing to do with slavs.
The largest finno ugric population is in Hungary. The russian empire had the third largest finno-ugric population but stalin killed most finno ugric people in russia exept Karelians and ingerians which could immigrate Finland of they could proof their heritage.
No Izhorians (Ingrians) and Komi-Permjak, only Komi-Zyrian, whose song is played in background
The komi are one people who speak 2 different languages
Respect from Chuvashia my ugric brothers!
In this video are not metioned some finno-ugric ethnic groups who lives Russia. Khanty, Mansi (they have asian apзearance, but their language is close to hungarian), Permyaks (they are close to Komi, but separates themselves. Komi means people , there are Komi-Zyrians or just Komi and Komi -Permyaks used to be called just Permyaks), Udmurts. These people up to now live proto-homeland of finno-ugric people before migratian to western lands - ural and western siberia. Here in Russia lived more finno-ugric people. Unfortunately, people of Vod` , Izhora, Chud`, Merya and Muroma are assimilated with Russians and they are lost.
Votes and izhorians are still alive though
@CountNadir
no. scythians were taurid royal scythians from subartu(old hungary) sumer and elam. the common people were pontid mediterran. these royal scythians ruled different common poeple too (tatars, mongols, iranians) and it was the xiongnu. the scythian r1a1 y dna you find in xiongnu too.
@HungarianHistory2 indus valley is in Pakistan, gangas valley is in india. Scythians and Huns have different roots. White Huns were related to scythians yes. But turkic huns were altaic in origin
Ugro Finns do have an exact origin..:)
im from sweden and i have been to both russia, finland and estonia,latvia and lithuania and my conclusion is this - all people around the baltic sea have some degree of germanic,slavic, baltic and finno ugrian blood and even some iranic to from the sarmatians ! its just that the swedes and danes have more germanic, the poles more slavic, the finns and estonians more finno ugric and the russians and the balts are a mix of all the groups
Wrong pic at 2:10 thats not hungarian landscape, architecture - and costume.
Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing. I am also part Finno-Ugric. :)
You are very similar to us. From the Ural Mountains, we went to the east and you to the west, but our roots are the same, by the way, yes, I am a Turk.
Whats the song?
A lot of beautiful people.
good one! what's the name of the song in the background?
Greetings from turkic brothers
My ass lmao
Turks aren’t our brothers though
Finns aren't turkic.
Nice music, the tune reminds me some songs of Brittany
Russians are finno-ugric peoples too although they consider themselves to be slavs which is not very true
The first turks have appeareced by the mixture of many finno-ugorics and some ameridians in very old past. Finno-ugoric genes are generally dominant on some tatar turks and oguz turks who are living in turkey, azerbaijan, moldava, balcans,irak, iran, some parts of russia. So they are not like mongoloid as kazak and kyrgız turks who are still the neighbours of mongols. Also some of the turkish people may have blonde or brown hair and blue or green eyes as their finno-ugoric grands.
Im living in setomaa and finali showing setu language on youtube
What about the Ssmoyedes of North westernmost Siberia,and Northeastern most Russia?
I mean the Samoyedes, friends?
They are samoyedic, not finno-ugric. Both are Uralic.
Beautiful thanks for the upload!.
what language is the song?
Komian language.
Thx bro ^^
BTW, sounds like Russian. Russian sounds different than Slavic languages, but like Finno-Ugric…
ruclips.net/video/CHc6hZuYw0g/видео.html
@@elsoistvan4765 Zil Z-ol
Song name??? love from Germany :)
If there is no difference between N1C1 and N-M46, I have N-M46 haplogroup from the Paternal side.
Что-то это очень напоминает мне русскую-народную песню)
Потому что мы родственники с финно-уграми. Так уж вышло за столь долгое время нашей истории
Мне украинские мотивы слышатся .
@AntiKyrgyz no scythians were an iranic peoples of Indo-European origin, Turkics are Altaic origin
А сколько их теперь называют себя т.н. русскими - не счесть.
Печаль, печаль...
Думаю это ключевое смешение славян с фино-уграми и создало русский народ .Украинцы тоже частично фино-угры
+балты
@@mariaworld8950 украинцы частично тюрки (хазары, турки, кипчаки), а не финно-угры
@@mariaworld8950 да брось. Славян 400 млн, финно-угров дай бог 20-30 млн наберётся. Тем более у карел, мордвы свои республики в РФ есть.
That means that the swedes also are partly mongoloids becuase if you read the Icelandic Sagas the first swedish kings were Finns ;D
@HungarianHistory2 that is because Indo-Europeans spread all over. R1A is associated with IE peoples. Besides Hungarians and Finns are mostly Indo-Europeans. They just don't speak IE languages.
There are 40+ language family under Finno-Ugric ethnicity. In this video maximum language families are missing.
As Hungarian archaeologist Andras Biro said that hundreds of times Magyar (Hungarian) people nothing to do with Ugrics they are Altaic. Also there is tribe still called Magyar in Kazakistan. Anyway I came here to say I like that song its ery similar to Turkish or Kazak language which dialectic is that anyone know ??
+Umut Yok Hungarians did not even descend from the ancient magyars anyway. How can an asiatic people like the magyars turn white in just a few centuries? The invading magyars were only a few thousand people compared to houndreds of thousands of REAL hungarians who were regular central europeans. Logically, most people in Hungary would have no ancestry at all to the magyars and the ones who do probably only have a small amount. Hungarians have been proven again, and again, and again to be genetically related with their neighbors.
+Natsu ”Uzumaki” Dragneel They are finno-ugric linguistically but not genetically. They are of course not "altaic" lol (what the fuck is altaic? XD)
+James Bond Actually, we are genetically and linguistically Finno-Ugric. Also, we did come from the Magyar (that means Hungarian) tribes, which were the descendants of Attila and the his Huns. Why do you think we have the name Attila? We inherited it like wealth.
Zoltan Csikos no u are altaic and magyar language is altaic with slavic mixation go and check out some articles of andras biro or nemeth
+Umut Yok You're delusional. Can't you Turks stop fangirling over us? We don't love you.
it depends where in Russia. Most Russians have haplogroup R1a which is primarily a slavic haplogroup. However "Russians" living in the North(Karelia, Kola, Archangel etc) have haplogroup N which is a Finnish haplogroup, this shows us that they are actually not Russians, but rather Finns with russian names.)))
Hungarians are in fact Uralicised Slavs, whereas many Russians are Slavicised Urals
I feel like in Finland there's much more than just Finns
What do you mean?
@radikborov umm light hair and blue eyes are begause of the cold northern weather
There is no mystery that mostly blonde blue eyed light skinned Finns have highest Asian share on their genes than other Europeans.
What's the name of this song?
Nganasan people living in the Taymyr Peninsula are Uralic speaking peoples too. They are just about as far east as China.
+YummYakitori Nganasans are not finno ugric, they are samoyedic.
интересно как-то у эстоно-язычных товарищей вышло, и эстонцы и ливы и даже водь все People. А вот Setu это просто сету, одно название без определения, что это народ..))
@CountNadir
the issyk kul silver dish stele in hungarian, with our runes. found in a scythian tomb. the uralic hypothesis is fake coz these people are from kunda -comb pottery culture and we are from pontid-kurgan culture (pre scythians) we were neighbours with 300 common words.
Nice! But how do explain that those who live in the West (Estonians, Finns, Karelians, Livonians, Saami) are blonde, blue eyed and the others in the east aren't? Hungarians aren't so light, either.
I'd say it's obvious that those in the west have Viking and Balto-Slavic genes that's why the look so. If Finno-Ugric were naturally light haired etc. then all its nations would look similar, wouldn't they? Such differences in an ethnicity aren't ordinary.
easy, that's because they are half-breed Finno-Ugrics, mixed with Germanics
Добавить не чего поют классссс. Главное не куда не лезут ,да и много не надо .Профессия самая мирная.
@HungarianHistory2
the language contact with finns is right, we were neighbours and ancient folks before language trees, with common protolanguage! Finns are 58% uralics 20% skandinavians I1. Magyars are 30-60% (regional different) R1a1 scythohuns eastern people, and others are carpathian autochtons. we arent asians in the past too, archeogenetic MTDNA was dominant european.
@HungarianHistory2 r1a1 is a subgroup of haplogroup r and so is r1b1. haplogroup r is associated with indo-european peoples. you have r1a1 because you ARE indo-european, as are the finns only difference is language and some asiatic influence.
Purgasova territory was called in the annals of the territory that was occupied by the Erzyan people, led by Purgason (similar to the Russian parishes). About "parish", speaking in ancient, Autonomous principalities inator of the Purgas in "Mordovia", says Nikon chronicle. Two princes "in the Kingdom of Mordovians" Purgas and Puruse mentions in the 30-ies of the XIII century, a Hungarian traveler Julian.
Located Purgasova parish in the lower reaches Moksha, from Temnikova-Vadskiy forests to the Oka, and the town of Arzamas (Arzamas) has become a political and economic center. Erzyan themselves called their leader Inator the Purgas, whose name is spelled with "h".
Prince Purges twice mentioned in Russian Chronicles under the year 1228:
...and Murom Prince Giorgi Davidovitch entered the land of the Mordovian Murgasova parish, burnt and poisoned the crops, and killed livestock, the prisoners were sent back, and Mordvinians fled into the woods of their own, and who did not run away, those killed run over Georgievi well done.
...Came Mordva Purgason to (Lower) Novgorod, and Novgorod, and beat them. And lit the monastery of the Holy virgin and the Church, which were outside the city. On the same day, and went away, taking their dead. In the same year won Purchase Paresev son Polovtsy and killed all the Mordva and Rus Murgasova and Purges barely had time to leak.
The word "Rus" in the Russian annals often call a professional army, as hereditary soldiers believed that their ancestors were Russian. In respect of the Mordovians application of this hypothesis very doubtful.
Álmos, Előd, Ond, Kond, Tas, Huba, és Töhötöm, nagy serényen számolgatják hány szál szőr van tökömön!
@A hétfejű sárkány egyikhez sem, katolikus sváb vagyok.
@CountNadir
r1a is non aryan west eu (latin,german,celtic, dorian) were R1b1b2a ! R1a1a is Scytho-hunnic marker (in india = indus valley, indo skyths, hephtalites, vars, kushans) ...
I remember asking my mom🇺🇦
- Mom why do Russians look SOMEHOW different from us, we often don't have faces like theirs....
Even the tonality of languages correlates with Russian. This song is almost Russian but made of other words.
And now I think HOW FUCKED RUSSIANS ARE STILLING THEIR SONG STYLE AS WELL.
Ну да епта, мы финно-угры! Не славяне, украинцы довольны этим фактом?
Что это за песня?
Im Estonian my self but Komi and Maris,Votic sound like Russian. With the accent
Te videchi
It's true
Masterrace
А почему песня только на коми языке
I missed poor Khanties :(
there missing some finno-ugric tribes kveens and meäns they live in north norway and north sweden
Pores (Kantor, Pores) (? - † 9 APR 1241), Moksha king (Kantor), head of early feudal political Moksha formation, (in Russian sources it is mentioned as "Pourashava Town"), brings together a number of principalities. Had Athamas son and daughter Arcada. In Russian Chronicles of the XII and XIII centuries, PUREX is mentioned as the contemporary of Purges and his main rival. The earth United under the rule of Purusha included the basins of the rivers Tsna, WADA, the middle reaches of the rivers Moksha and Sura. Won a series of victories in the wars with the Russian principalities. With 1220 - ally Vladimir Prince Yuri in the war with Purgason and the Bulgarian Khan Aluchem for the mouth of the Oka. Supported an Alliance with the Polovtsian Khan Cotnam. The invasion of the Tatars in September of 1236 put Puree faced with a choice, as its located in the steppe zone, was opened for the Mongol cavalry. Accepting the offer of Batu, Pores became his vassal and with his troops accompanied the Mongol-Tatars in their campaign in Central Europe!!!!!
Erzya and Moksha refer to them as Erzyan Inyazor Purgaz and Moksha Otyazor Puresh
hello please let me know are Swedish people mixed with sammi or finno ugric because some of them look kind of mixed please help out truth only
No they aren't, Swedish is Indo-European language (North Germanic) and roots of Swedish people lies mostly in northern part of middle Europe. Samis and Finno Ugrians are mostly from northern parts of Siberia.
Santtufull thanks for your help since I was young I have got the are you Russian thing slammed at me from everyone
Santtufull
oh-oh... as much as you would like to be "pure" nordic, forget about it. All Scandinavia was "contaminated" by Finno-Ugri before you -"true" nordics came. And we together joyfully did this, you know, copulation- thing:))) LOL!
Saba Luu Your comment makes 0 sense...explain little bit more please
Santtufull
With my comment I just meant, that all we here around this little puddle called The Baltic Sea are mixed genetically and culturally. But Scandinavian peninsula was inhabited by Finno-Ugri tribes before Germanic tribes arrived from the South.
@CountNadir
the r1a1 is not indoeuropean coz western eu is r1b1b and the pre germans, italics, dorians (greek) were r1b! the r1a is our kurgan, scythians, sarmatian, hun marker nd we are proud scytho-huns who love the finns but we arent brothers, but best friends! the Mari people have sarmtian ancestors too! Komi too they are genetic brothers! the 7% r1a1 in Finns is ours.
Long live the great Borat!
На коми языке музыка, я сам коми (пермяк)
as a finn, I think that one reason for the low self-respect is that we dont know really where are we from are where do we belong. we say we are europeans. yes, but we are different from other europeans in many things and our language has no common thing with european language. and we use to be pour and under the rule of others. we did not have formal language. actually we are from these finno-ugric people, and they language is close to our language. but most of them doesnt have own countries but they are living in russia and under the rule of russia. and we dont want to know anything about russia becouse it has opressed finland a lot. but thats why we dont know much of these people. but actually they are the most close to us. we as finns we need to be proud of our people and proud of finno-ugric people. we are only 5 000 000 but if we count all of us it is more than that. only estonians nd finns have theyr own country but these our brothers and sisters dont have. and there more than these that were in this video. some were droped out, maybe the maker of the video did not know them...
Alexandre Wozikowski women in finland have almost all the same genes. but differencies happen from father to son becouse father gives the y-chromosom. most men in eastern finland have still eastern genes. in west maybe 40% of men have western genes. its not that some people game from finland from west and they learned finnish. this is not the case. it is becouse some finns from western finland have went to sweden to find a job. finland was poor in those days. Also some swedes came to western part of finland. but they are clearly separeted from finns even in western finland. they are living only in some cities and towns like Vaasa, Närpiö and Kristiinan kaupunki. other places are very seperated from swedish even in west. And and many swedish-speaking people living in finland even these days does not want to speak finnish. so the finns that have some genes from the west, somebody from their family had children with some swedish. but not the all men in western finland have mixed genes. forexample my mother is from west and father from east, so propably i dont have swedesh genes. And not all the finns who have both parent from the west have swedish genes. so its just that finns have mixed little bit with swedesh wich is normal and i thnk it happed in every place.
The reason why there is a big % of swedish genes in western Finland is because finns were opressed by swedish people during the time under rule of sweden, but before all the population was 100% finish
There are also Finno-Ugric muslims among tatars...search mishari Tatars...many old Muslim Graves are in Mari,ugric language
Most of finno-ugrics are orthodox though or other christians
No tatars are turkic and there no muslim graves in Mari lol and mishari are turkics and all finno-ugrics are mostly christian and some of them practice pagans there no muslim and Islam are not been conquered to russia and because there many muslim because many turkic tribe immigrated there and people from caucasus
Your iq is 60 there no finno ugrics muslim almost all of them are christian and some practice pagans like Mari and I searched they practiced orthodox and some other christian and some practicing pagans
According many studies + day life experiences Finno-Ugric people have least issues to live with Japanese people. Interestingly Swedish speaking Finnish minority did have just like Anglo Saxons.
"N1c1a (M178+): this group appeared around 10.000 BC in Northern China and gradually moved to the Baltic coast through Siberia. It has two big European subgroups, a Baltic (VL29+) and an Uralic (Z1936+). The former is common among the Baltic, while the latter among Finno-Permian and Ob-Ugric peoples. It is very rare today in Hungary but 2 out of 7 individuals were found in 10th century Magyar graves".
N originated in China. Its found in a lot of ancient Chinese graves. It migrated westwards into Europe with the expansion of its sibling haplogroup. O. N is a Mongoloid haplogroup. Hence why the Swedes never accepted Finno Ugric people as caucasian back in ancient and medieval times.
Nenets are the most Finno Ugric people in Europe. They carry a whopping 75 percent of the N haplogroup
+天王
The baltic group would have to be either contemporary to the swiderians-kunda's (15-10 000 years ago) or the narva people (about 10-7000 years ago). The problem is that there is no evidence of any migration in between of those two. Nenets are a result of a bottleneck.
+James Bond It is believed to have originated in southeast Asia. Everywhere N is located, it is found in Mongoloid people. It is, after all, a split from NO, O being unquestionably Mongoloid.
Crispyhornets18
Han Chinese, Koreans etc. almost any ethnic group in East Asia (other than the indigenous people of Japan like the Ainu) you name it we all have more than 80% of Haplogroup O. Haplogroup N originated in China for sure. The Yi people (彝族) in southwestern China today still carry a lot of Haplogroup N (up to 30%) and even amongst the Han Chinese there are places where Haplogroup N takes up a good 5 to 15% of their Y-DNA. Unless you are trying to tell me some random blonde hair blue eyed Europeans made the trek all the way from the Volga River down to East Asia into the dense jungles of southwestern China and settled there which doesn't make sense because no one in the right frame of mind would have moved from the plains of Europe into some random primitive jungle in Asia. In fact, southwestern China is one of the most hilly, mountainous and densely populated areas on the planet.
天王 The proto Finno-Ugrics were pale skinned, blonde blue eyed caucasians with a little bit mongoloid trait. And we are oldest natives here, we belong to paleo european family:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-European_languages
I'm little Finno Ugric Türkish people ,)) We are all brothers in world !!!
Turks have nothing to do with Finno-Ugrics.
+avatarion %6 N y dna in turkey
+avatarion google the "chuvash"
Avatarion.. I can fully understand Mari's... -,- I'm Tatar/Turk and mari's even agree that they are Uralic-Altaic