If this is a before-you-buy series, what about an “after-you-buy” series, where you look at games that have developed over time with updates, expansions, and the like? Perhaps you could also discuss what is planned for the roadmap, if any, and your personal take on the value that it’ll bring to the game.
Not if they launched bad. If they launched bad, they don't deserve the exposure. It'll just encourage other developers to release MVP's and hopefully fix it later.
@1_underthesun You aren't wrong but there's more to it than that. Sometimes deadlines are too strict even for good developers. No Mans Sky is an example of this. We don't have to write off games just because they launched poorly.
Hate to be that guy, but it's been proven to work. Improves immunity A LOT in babies. Google Iceland and Scandinavia, they do it. Leave babies in the cold. It's wild but it works! 😅 Edit: before I am crucified for having a different mindset, I am a medical student and, guys, you have NO IDEA how powerful a human baby is when it comes to environmental factors! Their tissue can literally be frozen only by a barell of liquid nitrogen. 💀 (Hyperbolic statement, the latter!)
I heard Jake rave about the first Frostpunk, and finally decided to play it during an actual blizzard and it is without a doubt one of my most memorable gaming experiences. I told myself I would wait to play the sequel until the weather got cold again, but now I'm not so sure I can wait that long. Beyond ecstatic to hear they've managed to build on the original in meaningful ways, can't wait to finally play it!
Man I loved the first one so much I put a couple hundred hours into it easily. Got the original and all the dlc for like 6 bucks so I figured I'd preorder this one even though I never pre order games. It let me play early and its incredible have fun and good luck in it man
I was not expecting the "city builder" change but I cannot believe how much they took on player feedback. Also they made the decisions way more impactful and a lot more of them too. I love morale games, especially with a dark turn or twist if you're not careful.
To be fair, most of your decisions don't matter, it's either stewards or pilgrims... And if they're mad build a fighting pit and you can just ignore them... Played on the hardest and it was a snooze fest...
@@fezzes428 "way to be played", dude mid game you've got Infinite ressources... I cruised the end just because I had so many ressources stock piled, the only big issue is early game, then once you've passed the whiteout you're chill
Cant wait for this game man, I have great memories of watching xqc play frostpunk on Kick, after that I rushed to steam and bought it myself, possible the best gaming decision I've made because its now my favorite game.
i can really respect what the dev did. lots of sequel would do the same as the first game with added stuff... but 11bit took a risk by changing the entire game mecanic.
@@480darkshadow He''s right though I was expecting frostpunk 1 with maybe a few extra mechanics new stories but this is crazy different game wise. The politics part of the game is so annoying and boring. And theres just way too much stuff, sooo many tech trees sooo many buildings in each tech tree and multiple faction versions of those buildings, with honestly micro differences. There is so much to read before you can really play the game with good enough knowledge to not go under. I think a lot of people were dissapointed in this sequel as it doesnt feel anywhere close to frostpunk 1. If you enjoy the game then thats cool, but many of us have seen this as a bit disappointing. It's a very different game to the first game which isnt just inherently a good thing. We liked the gameplay of frostpunk so why not improve on it and not completely change it?
dont waste your time and money they should have named it frostpolitics. this is liked by those that have their hand held instead of the challenging original frostpunk. he said it himself the 1st one was too hard for him to handle at the end of the game this is why people like this easy version. @7:27 he cries about not being able to play well, cus it too hard. again dumbed down holding hand version and not fun either.
@TheKlecker1 2 things 1: The OG frostpunk is baby shit 2: If you want more OG frostpunk, the game is literally right there. I'm not trynna play the same game for the sequel. This isn't ubisoft, it's 11 bit
@@commandertaco1762 Has your peanut brain ever considered that people have played the shit out of the first game until there's no more fun left? Maybe we wanted a second game that didn't toss out everything we liked about the first one. How difficult of a concept is that?
Been playing too and man, already played hours and hours on it. It's awesome how different it is from frostpunk but still got the same vibe and still on point with the gameplay. It's a must buy if you love city building and a good challenge. 💯
Honestly, I do like the direction they took, sure, the first one was interesting watching everyone go about their business and move around, but on a scale like this, it’s hard to see because you’re on a bigger scale. The tile thing is something that I’m getting used to, especially with the icebreakers, sometimes I don’t need to use so many tiles, but it is required to select 8 tiles. As you mentioned, it is challenging, your ass will be kicked many times, but it’s a learning curve, it’s part of the fun of becoming great at the game, first you suck at it, then after a few playthroughs, you learn to master it and know what does what, what should go where, who to trust, who you can rely on. I do miss the tech tree from the first Frostpunk but as you said, it’s about managing multiple cities and settlements, not just one, which would be tricky, it is kind of like Civilisation, but I’d say it’s a Civ-like game but with more interaction and engagement instead of their turn based mechanics. Overall, I like it and recommend the game.
I wish there was an action/adventure game set in this universe, where you play as a young Mayor of your town. It could still have some light city building and management elements, but you'd also get to actually run around and interact with your townspeople, do quests to help them survive, lead them on hunting parties, and whatnot. Maybe you could even get married and build a cozy house for your family that you then get to decorate.
I personally prefer frostpunk 1. It feels more like a intimate builder then a vast "you don't have much control over building but more over choices". I might simply just be too stupid for 2. Going to try again tonight, hopefully can figure out how the mechanics work, a lot of it is hard to understand for me.
I played Frostpunk 1 on PC for several months and played all the campaigns and DLC on survival mode (the hardest mode) .The game is so awesome and I cant wait to start playing Frostpunk 2.
Unfortunately I'm disappointed in it. I love the first game because it felt personal. Seeing the people walking around the tents turning into houses, the hunters leaving every night. It was like a little community. The sequel is just too much. It's a proper city builder with none of the vibes of the first game. I wish I could get into it more, but I'm halfway through chapter 1 and I'm struggling to keep playing. It's definitely a bigger, grander game, but I wish it wasn't THAT big. I'm happy people are loving it, though.
You still have events that describe citizens etc. And everyone in the congress has bunch of info about them if you click on them such as likes to smoke, teacher, has kids etc. So the game has still some elements like that.
This is probably the most positive Before You Buy I've seen. Like where are the cons??? Honestly, I was expecting there would be no cons because of the way 11Bit responded to Beta feedback and explained their game in City Episodes. They knew they were cooking.
Frostpunk 2 is awesome. They improved everything. I’ve been stressed out every session and I love it. There’s so much politics and you’re always on the edge with your resources. I also like that stockpiling is a serious need at times. A whiteout cutting off resources to the city can decimate it without a stockpile.
Not exactly, they improved what many people liked, but tossed out others liked. It's good that you're happy with it but honestly politics is exactly the one thing I didn't care about in the first game. Recommendation: look up some gameplay videos before deciding.
This is so good, I totally see making a TV show out of this would make absolute sense and be a massive hit. I also haven't been this attracted to a strategy game of this sort since command and conquer 2 PS: I support the motion to create an "after you buy" to look into details of successful titles. Stories, news, updates, blarg blarg
Finally played the first Frostpunk earlier this year with tempered expectations. Ended up being one of my favorite games ever. FP2 has been on my radar since and it's such a relief to hear it's great! I know Jake is also a huge fan of the first and has never steered me wrong, so his endorsement seals the deal
So stoked to play this. I was going to wait until winter to play, you know, until we get our yearly 3 feet of snow just to really capitalize on the immersion. Now I'm thinking I'm to excited to wait.
@@joshrogers6669 With the added bonus of a non-zero chance a crisis happens inside the household where you have to decide how to proceed, and nobody is happy.
I absolutely loved this game. I bought the first one on my laptop and went crazy on it. Then I rebought on ps4 and got all the DLC. I beat every mode and keep going back on occasion. My only gripe about the game is the difficulty is pretty intense, and I wished the gaps in difficulty weren’t nearly as punishing. That being said, I really can’t wait for part 2. Hearing what you said about the game really has me excited. It sounds like they took the parts from the dlc and perfected it.
I am playing and i am very happy they didn't go to the "same game 2" route. If i want the exact same experience as the first one i just play that game then. It is just such a natural progression, at the end of FP1 you are already controlling a city of some sorts, focusing on the materials, food, exploring etc and then on this game they progressed this aspect of the game. I am glad they had a vision and went for that vision, many devs are afraid to do so. In the end of the day, people will be like "Wow you did the same game again? Milking the fanbase" or "Wow you did something different? The game lost it's soul"
Im not gonna lie 7:30 that sounds really good. One minor issue with the first in endless mode is after playing enough you learn how to optimize and the replay-ability tanks. There's basically 2 humps you need to get over, the first blizzard and then the 2nd hump is when your focus switches from survival micromanagement to city expansion. That 2nd hump comes relatively soon after the first blizzard, and once you survive it the game gets easier. The last couple times I played the first game, I started a new city once I realized I hit that point. So late game shakeups is just what this game needed.
Frostpunk is one of the few and definitely the most difficult game I have all the steam achievements for. Frostpunk 2 is so a new challenge and well done . I’m going to be playing for a long time. 2 looks like it has even more options to help make multiple replays fun and keep things interesting
That's the point, it is supposed to be different not just milking the first game again. I don't get this kind of argument, the devs put out like 15 videos of the game mechanics and changes, they said multiple times it's going to be different, not their fault you didn't do enough research
@@random_user98 Many people barely get enough time to really play games, do you really expect everyone to follow the news about all games they might possibly play in the future?
@@MrNacknime dude if you are paying 40$ on a game and you didn't even search for any info on it it's your fault. It takes like 30 seconds to read the steam description which is more than enough. But all the trailers and vids the devs made are like 30-45 mins combined and that's through a span of 1 year, if you don't even have enough time for that than you couldn't play the game anyway
@@random_user98 OP didn't say that they made something other than _they suggested,_ but something other that what _he wanted._ Your point about "research" is completely irrelevant. And I share that sentiment btw.
I loved the original, and got good at it. I came up with a layout and and choices that made my city very successful. I had lots of resources and never any problems with the cold. I'll give 2 a go but I worry it sounds too complicated and more like work than a game. Something I'm finding more and more with recent releases....they feel like work. Might as well earn money if I'm gonna work!
I wish there was a frostpunk thats an open world rpg. I wanna be on my airship flying through the air over the baren land below, trading goods between cities, and pushing through the cold storms trying not to die for money. Steampunk and frostpunk is a favorite genre but open world would be cooler.
For my frostpunk 1 fans: Basically changes from first one are: You don't have to build the roads but there is this new frost breaking mechanism to clear out the snow. Theres less grid building around the generator.
Can't wait to order the cooks to add saw dust as additives to the soup😂 not only are those kids gonna work their butts off in those cold mines, am gonna make them work extended shift plus overtime💀
played the first one, liked it a lot. didnt play for years so i came back and started with FP2. Biggest flaw is that there is no tutorial to show you the mechanics. there is a textbox that explains everything but id like it implemented in some actual gameplay. i think that made the game unnecessarily hard
It lose a TON of immersion for me due to its grander scale. Not being able to see your people actually do stuff, frostbreakers spawning and despawning out of nowhere, building districts all over the place not tied to your generator. Idk...it just doesnt feel like Frostpunk to me. Also ugly UI.
It went from that "we are all in this together dystopian surivior" to a systems managment sim. There is no heart in FP2, and like you said immersion out of the window.
Frostpunk 2. I have been waiting a long time for the sequel. Now that it is finally here, this is one of those rare occasions where I feel so proud that I got it as a pre-order. I rarely pre-order games anymore. But, thanks to Steam's recent sale, I was able to get it at a cheaper price. Looking forward to playing it tonight.
So my concern about the game is this: Frost Punk 1 gave you the illusion of choice in the campaign mode, but the reality was you had to do a fairly linear set of decisions or your city would fall apart. You couldn't deviate too much from the build order that was clearly intended. This was easy to spot when/if you had to reload the game to try something else if you failed. The first game wasn't so much a city builder as it was a puzzle game, figuring out what to do in the right order. I know the "open mode" or w.e they called the freeform mode in the first game fixed this, but I REALLY hope the campaign/story mode in this one lets you make more actual decisions and still lets you succeed with more freedom instead of being on rails with build order.
The demo was also very structured, but was missing the charm of the people your decisions were impacting. The UI is way better, but the game isn't as intimate.
It's the same decision wise, in the sense that once you finish one game you're like... Welp, that's it. Most of the decisions barely matter, compared to the first game where you would see new factions rising and a new building schemes etc... to be fair I made 0 effort to support the pilgrims and I just had to build a couple of broadcast towers and fighting pits and legit just cruised through the hardest difficulty... Disappointing for a 40-70€ game
@@ulrickvelheim1416 Yeah, it's called "utopia builder", it's more interesting in my opinion since you've got different maps and more factions that organically evolve, the campaign is very scripted
As someone who loved the first one, I’m just not getting the same level of citizen micromanagement that I enjoyed with the first one. I really enjoyed the progress system of starting with people harvesting to finally getting automatons.
The game is trash compared to the first one, ZERO EXPANDED LORE FIRST OF ALL. Also the game shits on your every decision by upsetting someone. You are punished for progress and that's really BAD GAME DESIGN. I found it much less fun than the first game, it feels like it was made by another company
Wdym no expanded lore? It’s filled with it, we know how the lamps operate, it’s implied what the actual cause of the frost was and a way to make things warm again. Like, it’s filled with lore!!
They got lazy. It would have been really hard to retain the intimate depth of the first game while expanding on the building mechanics and overall scale... so they didn't. They chose scale and a more generic city builder approach, and forsook a lot of what made Frostpunk unique and intimate.
I have over 100 hours in the first game, this feels like a fresh experience. The only thing I'm missing on FP2 is having more than one campaign, I liked that the first game had different places and stories for you to explore.
I love always liked Gameranx but here lately it just seems their opinions are just that of the majority. They used to just review and be genuine. Idk what’s happened
One big lore improvement is that these settlements are not placed in the middle of a valley. It was always a pet peeve of mine in the first game because valleys surrounded by steep hills and mountains are some of the coldest places on Earth and would make the already cold temperatures many times worse.
I almost never preorder games to play them early but I did for this one. I love it so far, the story is good and I like the politics between the factions. Hopefully they release DLC as good as the first one.
Yes, can't wait to play. After finishing a dozen campaigns from the original all I wanted was to go even bigger, expand to more locations and this games seems to do exactly that. Pretty straightforward expectations from a sequel and they seem to have delivered.
I bought Deleuxe at $110 CAD. Refunded at 2.1 hours on Steam. I'll buy again after 50% sale. Overpriced and not same building experience. I'll pick it up again on a sale. Sad because I loved first Frostpunk bought it day one.
The original game was a mile wide but an inch deep, like that Mars colony simulator, or the cave man simulator one (that are also by weird eastern european companies, in fact I think they're asset flips of the same game). I wouldn't surprise for FP2 to be the same. FP1 felt SO limited.
It makes me very happy to hear that this game is amazing. The first game is so unique and well made. It makes me happy to see a bigger sequel not ruin itself or lose itself.
I'm glad to hear it's so different, and Ihope the fandom gives it the loves. it deserves. The devs went out on a limb here, and I have a feeling the wait is gonnabe worth it!
I really like wish these youtube channels were more critical of games because they always make it sound like there is never anything wrong with these games.,you always get a sense of the game is better then it actually is
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As long as you can send the children to the mines I’ll buy.
my guy
The children yearn for the mines
@@henrycraig5952 it builds character
@@henrycraig5952haha!
Minor miners FTW
If this is a before-you-buy series, what about an “after-you-buy” series, where you look at games that have developed over time with updates, expansions, and the like? Perhaps you could also discuss what is planned for the roadmap, if any, and your personal take on the value that it’ll bring to the game.
Not if they launched bad. If they launched bad, they don't deserve the exposure. It'll just encourage other developers to release MVP's and hopefully fix it later.
That's encouraging them to release unfinished games which is a horrible trend in recent years that has to be abolished
They've done this with Cyberpunk. Just not every game needs it lol
@1_underthesun
You aren't wrong but there's more to it than that. Sometimes deadlines are too strict even for good developers. No Mans Sky is an example of this. We don't have to write off games just because they launched poorly.
@@1_underthesuntodd howard hates you bro kekw
Before you buy, remember; Do not bother repairing old equipment, new equipment is safer
Apple be like
Same goes for your coal miners
@@GWT1m0No 💩... I have a literal pile of perfectly functional ipads that Apple rendered unusable due to no updates 👍
@@Shadow__133Learn how to jailbreak and install Linux, noob. Or sell them
@@Lunatic5306 are you licensed to post this level of cringe? Please provide your credentials or prepare to be tried in international court.
Frostpunk is one of the most challenging and addictive games I’ve ever played. I can’t wait to play this.
You already played it but can't wait to play it? Doesn't make sense
There is Frostpunk, and this one is the second....@@natethegreat3320
@@natethegreat3320 He means the first one.
I love when people correct people but they themselves are the one in the wrong hahahahaha@@natethegreat3320
@@natethegreat3320 Are you familiar with the concept of 'sequels'?
What’s for dinner tonight - “sawdust soup”
What’s for dinner tomorrow night -
“Just sawdust…”
Well what about dinner the next night after - “you”
What she thinks:😏🛌
What you think: 🍽️🍖
Cannibalism at its finest
Jake Baldino is such a fraud, he's not even bald
Well, neither are bald eagles. Never trust Americans, either people or wildlife.
Jake, baldy? No.
No pizza for you
Should've taken his last name with a grain of salt. And wait until you watch a Falcon video - boy do I have some bad news for you.
@@KUATO_COBRETTI No NOT FALCON, don't tell me he's not even a bird
*baby: freezing 🥶 *
People of the city: babies grow up
Let them suffer, it'll form their character
Hate to be that guy, but it's been proven to work. Improves immunity A LOT in babies. Google Iceland and Scandinavia, they do it. Leave babies in the cold. It's wild but it works! 😅
Edit: before I am crucified for having a different mindset, I am a medical student and, guys, you have NO IDEA how powerful a human baby is when it comes to environmental factors! Their tissue can literally be frozen only by a barell of liquid nitrogen. 💀 (Hyperbolic statement, the latter!)
they need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps
technically scandinavain countries do let their babies freeze
@@dr_gamerhind didn't my comment elaborate?
Frostpunk 2 expands so good love the first one a lot so the sequel is a fine addition to my strategy sim game catalog
it's great!
What are other good games in that genre?
@@ChristopherAndersonPiratemanor lord is pretty good
We are SO BACK with another episode of before you buy
Man it feels good to not be disappointed by a game you've been wanting for a while, I'd almost forgotten what it was like.
Cough KSP2, cough CS2, cough? I'd about given up.
@@fastfiddler1625 Oh did CS2 bomb? I know that KSP2 was abandoned which hurt to hear.
@@fastfiddler1625 cs2 just reskin and new engine. The cheating problem even got worse at launch
That's Elden Ring and its DLC for me.
@@phunweng962nah the elden ring dlc was good. Maybe not as good as the base game but still really fucking good.
I heard Jake rave about the first Frostpunk, and finally decided to play it during an actual blizzard and it is without a doubt one of my most memorable gaming experiences. I told myself I would wait to play the sequel until the weather got cold again, but now I'm not so sure I can wait that long. Beyond ecstatic to hear they've managed to build on the original in meaningful ways, can't wait to finally play it!
Man I loved the first one so much I put a couple hundred hours into it easily. Got the original and all the dlc for like 6 bucks so I figured I'd preorder this one even though I never pre order games. It let me play early and its incredible have fun and good luck in it man
I was not expecting the "city builder" change but I cannot believe how much they took on player feedback. Also they made the decisions way more impactful and a lot more of them too. I love morale games, especially with a dark turn or twist if you're not careful.
To be fair, most of your decisions don't matter, it's either stewards or pilgrims... And if they're mad build a fighting pit and you can just ignore them... Played on the hardest and it was a snooze fest...
Moral ≠ morale
I think you mean moral/morality
@@atlas_dynamics no game is fun if you dont play it the way it was meant to be played
@@fezzes428 "way to be played", dude mid game you've got Infinite ressources... I cruised the end just because I had so many ressources stock piled, the only big issue is early game, then once you've passed the whiteout you're chill
Cant wait for this game man, I have great memories of watching xqc play frostpunk on Kick, after that I rushed to steam and bought it myself, possible the best gaming decision I've made because its now my favorite game.
nah fam.. frostpunk is bad lol im not buying it
why would u watch xqc LMAO
who asked?
It’s a juicer 👶🏽🫵🏼😂😂😂😂
Cringe
i can really respect what the dev did. lots of sequel would do the same as the first game with added stuff... but 11bit took a risk by changing the entire game mecanic.
11bit is a really good studio, alot of unique games
And they fucked up the game I didn’t want ‘’’abother game ‘’ and other mechanisms I loved frostpunk 1 why they fucked us like that fuck this
@@gregoralanijust go back and play the original frost punk lmao. Why make a copy of something that already exist.
@@480darkshadow
He''s right though I was expecting frostpunk 1 with maybe a few extra mechanics new stories but this is crazy different game wise.
The politics part of the game is so annoying and boring.
And theres just way too much stuff, sooo many tech trees sooo many buildings in each tech tree and multiple faction versions of those buildings, with honestly micro differences. There is so much to read before you can really play the game with good enough knowledge to not go under.
I think a lot of people were dissapointed in this sequel as it doesnt feel anywhere close to frostpunk 1.
If you enjoy the game then thats cool, but many of us have seen this as a bit disappointing.
It's a very different game to the first game which isnt just inherently a good thing. We liked the gameplay of frostpunk so why not improve on it and not completely change it?
@@gregoralani yea im sitting here right now wondering why im not allowed to build my city.... kinda sad
I REALLY appreciate that this video is in Ultra-wide format. The game looks achingly beautiful like that.
Hey thanks we appreciate the feedback :)
It's so refreshing ! Sick of black bars at the sides of most youtube videos...
I was just thinking the opposite, can't see shit with this resolution..
@@esb88 Agreed. Way too wide to actually see anything.
SAWDUST IN SOUP
wish i could sign both laws 😔
And they say white people never season their food. 🤌
Ridiculous!
Wood is far too valueable to put in the soup.
I guess it would be like salty oatmeal?
Aka Mao's Great Leap Forward-soup.
Loving that this upload is in ultrawide format!
The first Frostpunk was fantastic, cant wait to play this
Its a completely different game with bunch of new game mechanics, but without old good staff from the first game...
@@vk1340 If u miss the first frostpunk, just play it^^
dont waste your time and money they should have named it frostpolitics. this is liked by those that have their hand held instead of the challenging original frostpunk. he said it himself the 1st one was too hard for him to handle at the end of the game this is why people like this easy version. @7:27 he cries about not being able to play well, cus it too hard. again dumbed down holding hand version and not fun either.
@TheKlecker1 2 things
1: The OG frostpunk is baby shit
2: If you want more OG frostpunk, the game is literally right there. I'm not trynna play the same game for the sequel. This isn't ubisoft, it's 11 bit
@@commandertaco1762 Has your peanut brain ever considered that people have played the shit out of the first game until there's no more fun left? Maybe we wanted a second game that didn't toss out everything we liked about the first one. How difficult of a concept is that?
I don’t play these type of games , like ever . Except for some reason frost punk 1. Loved it so much . Definitely going to get this one.
Same lol!
Lol you know at first I thought a bug was flying on my TV screen at first 😂
Been playing too and man, already played hours and hours on it. It's awesome how different it is from frostpunk but still got the same vibe and still on point with the gameplay. It's a must buy if you love city building and a good challenge. 💯
I like how they added in twitch chat voting in game
Honestly, I do like the direction they took, sure, the first one was interesting watching everyone go about their business and move around, but on a scale like this, it’s hard to see because you’re on a bigger scale. The tile thing is something that I’m getting used to, especially with the icebreakers, sometimes I don’t need to use so many tiles, but it is required to select 8 tiles.
As you mentioned, it is challenging, your ass will be kicked many times, but it’s a learning curve, it’s part of the fun of becoming great at the game, first you suck at it, then after a few playthroughs, you learn to master it and know what does what, what should go where, who to trust, who you can rely on.
I do miss the tech tree from the first Frostpunk but as you said, it’s about managing multiple cities and settlements, not just one, which would be tricky, it is kind of like Civilisation, but I’d say it’s a Civ-like game but with more interaction and engagement instead of their turn based mechanics.
Overall, I like it and recommend the game.
I hope as many people as possible can see the beauty of this game
It's on Gamepass so it should get huge exposure.
Picking this one up?
@@gameranxTV 💯
I wish there was an action/adventure game set in this universe, where you play as a young Mayor of your town. It could still have some light city building and management elements, but you'd also get to actually run around and interact with your townspeople, do quests to help them survive, lead them on hunting parties, and whatnot. Maybe you could even get married and build a cozy house for your family that you then get to decorate.
Yeah because this is boring
Wouldn't that just be a deadlier version of The Long Dark with a central settlement incorporated into the core game loop?
@@itrollallot9780 subjective
Fallout/Stalker/Lost Planet hybrid in this universe please
The market is saturated with those games. Games like Frostpunk are one of the rare good games for the management and strategy crowd.
I personally prefer frostpunk 1. It feels more like a intimate builder then a vast "you don't have much control over building but more over choices". I might simply just be too stupid for 2. Going to try again tonight, hopefully can figure out how the mechanics work, a lot of it is hard to understand for me.
The children yearn for the mines !!
Was looking for this comment
LoL I thought there was a moth on my tv cause of the cursor in the opening title
Yeah that was traumatizing
The Captain: Back in my days, whatever I say it's law...
The Steward:
Oh man, can’t wait for you to play. Nothing feels better than slowly eroding any semblance of democracy while everyone cheers.
"I give you some pros, some cons, and some personal opinion" -> Personally I didnt notice any real cons in the video, though I would heartfully agree.
Frostpunk franchise has been the main reason I kept Game Pass sub on for the last two years now.
Fun and addictive game.
Same, Frostpunk and Crusader Kings 3.
Love the drastic changes yet still retaining that similar feeling of challenges / hardship (but more scaled) of the game. Can't wait to play it soon!
Absolutely! Hopefully it delivers for you :)
Saw the thumpnail of this video, bought frostpunk 2 and then started to watch it.
That intro graphic is sooo crisp and clean man. Love it!
I’m super excited about this game but with the original on Steam at 90% off right now, there’s no excuse to not go and try it!
I played Frostpunk 1 on PC for several months and played all the campaigns and DLC on survival mode (the hardest mode) .The game is so awesome and I cant wait to start playing Frostpunk 2.
I was just looking at this game. I really liked frostpunk 1
Very helpful video, especially for those who pre-ordered Deluxe version since it was available.
I've never once seen any of you "down in the comments" engaging in any discussion...
Right above this was a comment they replied to
I don't know how I feel about Heat being a resource just like Food and not going into thermal view and managing heat zones. That was fun.
Unfortunately I'm disappointed in it. I love the first game because it felt personal. Seeing the people walking around the tents turning into houses, the hunters leaving every night. It was like a little community. The sequel is just too much. It's a proper city builder with none of the vibes of the first game. I wish I could get into it more, but I'm halfway through chapter 1 and I'm struggling to keep playing. It's definitely a bigger, grander game, but I wish it wasn't THAT big. I'm happy people are loving it, though.
Worried about this. I feel the same way. Still happy it’s getting the attention regardless.
You still have events that describe citizens etc. And everyone in the congress has bunch of info about them if you click on them such as likes to smoke, teacher, has kids etc. So the game has still some elements like that.
This is probably the most positive Before You Buy I've seen. Like where are the cons??? Honestly, I was expecting there would be no cons because of the way 11Bit responded to Beta feedback and explained their game in City Episodes. They knew they were cooking.
Frostpunk 2 is awesome. They improved everything. I’ve been stressed out every session and I love it. There’s so much politics and you’re always on the edge with your resources. I also like that stockpiling is a serious need at times. A whiteout cutting off resources to the city can decimate it without a stockpile.
Not exactly, they improved what many people liked, but tossed out others liked. It's good that you're happy with it but honestly politics is exactly the one thing I didn't care about in the first game.
Recommendation: look up some gameplay videos before deciding.
This is so good, I totally see making a TV show out of this would make absolute sense and be a massive hit.
I also haven't been this attracted to a strategy game of this sort since command and conquer 2
PS: I support the motion to create an "after you buy" to look into details of successful titles. Stories, news, updates, blarg blarg
this games looks awesome on Ultra wide monitor
Finally played the first Frostpunk earlier this year with tempered expectations. Ended up being one of my favorite games ever.
FP2 has been on my radar since and it's such a relief to hear it's great! I know Jake is also a huge fan of the first and has never steered me wrong, so his endorsement seals the deal
So stoked to play this. I was going to wait until winter to play, you know, until we get our yearly 3 feet of snow just to really capitalize on the immersion. Now I'm thinking I'm to excited to wait.
You shold wait! And play with the window open for immersion
@@LvsoOne Right!? Hypothermia would be the cherry on top.
@@joshrogers6669 With the added bonus of a non-zero chance a crisis happens inside the household where you have to decide how to proceed, and nobody is happy.
I absolutely loved this game. I bought the first one on my laptop and went crazy on it. Then I rebought on ps4 and got all the DLC. I beat every mode and keep going back on occasion. My only gripe about the game is the difficulty is pretty intense, and I wished the gaps in difficulty weren’t nearly as punishing. That being said, I really can’t wait for part 2. Hearing what you said about the game really has me excited. It sounds like they took the parts from the dlc and perfected it.
100% a new home on max difficulty nearly took my sanity 😂
Ayyy been waiting for this to drop
omg you can watch this on ultrawide with no black bars :O sick!
I am playing and i am very happy they didn't go to the "same game 2" route. If i want the exact same experience as the first one i just play that game then. It is just such a natural progression, at the end of FP1 you are already controlling a city of some sorts, focusing on the materials, food, exploring etc and then on this game they progressed this aspect of the game. I am glad they had a vision and went for that vision, many devs are afraid to do so. In the end of the day, people will be like "Wow you did the same game again? Milking the fanbase" or "Wow you did something different? The game lost it's soul"
Im not gonna lie 7:30 that sounds really good. One minor issue with the first in endless mode is after playing enough you learn how to optimize and the replay-ability tanks. There's basically 2 humps you need to get over, the first blizzard and then the 2nd hump is when your focus switches from survival micromanagement to city expansion. That 2nd hump comes relatively soon after the first blizzard, and once you survive it the game gets easier. The last couple times I played the first game, I started a new city once I realized I hit that point. So late game shakeups is just what this game needed.
Frostpunk is one of the few and definitely the most difficult game I have all the steam achievements for. Frostpunk 2 is so a new challenge and well done . I’m going to be playing for a long time. 2 looks like it has even more options to help make multiple replays fun and keep things interesting
Everyone seems to love the changes... But honestly? It feels like an entirely different game of civilization when I wanted a sequel.
That's the point, it is supposed to be different not just milking the first game again. I don't get this kind of argument, the devs put out like 15 videos of the game mechanics and changes, they said multiple times it's going to be different, not their fault you didn't do enough research
@@random_user98 Many people barely get enough time to really play games, do you really expect everyone to follow the news about all games they might possibly play in the future?
Same
@@MrNacknime dude if you are paying 40$ on a game and you didn't even search for any info on it it's your fault. It takes like 30 seconds to read the steam description which is more than enough. But all the trailers and vids the devs made are like 30-45 mins combined and that's through a span of 1 year, if you don't even have enough time for that than you couldn't play the game anyway
@@random_user98 OP didn't say that they made something other than _they suggested,_ but something other that what _he wanted._ Your point about "research" is completely irrelevant. And I share that sentiment btw.
I loved the original, and got good at it. I came up with a layout and and choices that made my city very successful. I had lots of resources and never any problems with the cold. I'll give 2 a go but I worry it sounds too complicated and more like work than a game. Something I'm finding more and more with recent releases....they feel like work. Might as well earn money if I'm gonna work!
Well the first one is 2.50 on steam so it seems like the right time to jump in! 😄
Both are cracked too
@@runek100support devs loser
I played all of frostpunk 1, the dlc and the endless modes. I am so hyped to try this game out on Friday!
Going to be a busy weekend!
This feels like a like it or dislike game no in between
I wish there was a frostpunk thats an open world rpg. I wanna be on my airship flying through the air over the baren land below, trading goods between cities, and pushing through the cold storms trying not to die for money. Steampunk and frostpunk is a favorite genre but open world would be cooler.
FP1: Dictatorship Simulator
FP2: Democracy Simulator
Love the fact your videos are in 21:9 aspect ratio!!!
For my frostpunk 1 fans:
Basically changes from first one are:
You don't have to build the roads but there is this new frost breaking mechanism to clear out the snow.
Theres less grid building around the generator.
you a real one thanks
That's such an oversimplification
And no more cozy-ness 😢
@@El_Negro2003 wait you consider frostpunk 1 cozy?! :D
@@Pat43489 bro just imagine being in one of them houses. Super cozy
this games sound quality is next level also! The sound effects, music, and the quality alone , deserve a huge shoutout imo!
Can't wait to order the cooks to add saw dust as additives to the soup😂 not only are those kids gonna work their butts off in those cold mines, am gonna make them work extended shift plus overtime💀
played the first one, liked it a lot. didnt play for years so i came back and started with FP2. Biggest flaw is that there is no tutorial to show you the mechanics. there is a textbox that explains everything but id like it implemented in some actual gameplay. i think that made the game unnecessarily hard
It lose a TON of immersion for me due to its grander scale. Not being able to see your people actually do stuff, frostbreakers spawning and despawning out of nowhere, building districts all over the place not tied to your generator. Idk...it just doesnt feel like Frostpunk to me. Also ugly UI.
It went from that "we are all in this together dystopian surivior" to a systems managment sim. There is no heart in FP2, and like you said immersion out of the window.
Frostpunk 2. I have been waiting a long time for the sequel. Now that it is finally here, this is one of those rare occasions where I feel so proud that I got it as a pre-order. I rarely pre-order games anymore. But, thanks to Steam's recent sale, I was able to get it at a cheaper price. Looking forward to playing it tonight.
So my concern about the game is this: Frost Punk 1 gave you the illusion of choice in the campaign mode, but the reality was you had to do a fairly linear set of decisions or your city would fall apart. You couldn't deviate too much from the build order that was clearly intended. This was easy to spot when/if you had to reload the game to try something else if you failed. The first game wasn't so much a city builder as it was a puzzle game, figuring out what to do in the right order.
I know the "open mode" or w.e they called the freeform mode in the first game fixed this, but I REALLY hope the campaign/story mode in this one lets you make more actual decisions and still lets you succeed with more freedom instead of being on rails with build order.
The demo was also very structured, but was missing the charm of the people your decisions were impacting. The UI is way better, but the game isn't as intimate.
It's the same decision wise, in the sense that once you finish one game you're like... Welp, that's it. Most of the decisions barely matter, compared to the first game where you would see new factions rising and a new building schemes etc... to be fair I made 0 effort to support the pilgrims and I just had to build a couple of broadcast towers and fighting pits and legit just cruised through the hardest difficulty... Disappointing for a 40-70€ game
@@atlas_dynamics Thanks for the info. Is there a freeform or endless mode of somekind?
@@ulrickvelheim1416 Yeah, it's called "utopia builder", it's more interesting in my opinion since you've got different maps and more factions that organically evolve, the campaign is very scripted
Im not kidding, played 2018 and started this video in the background. Finally looked at the screen at 3:29 and my jaw DROPPED. That cities incredible!
Foragers OP, literally curbs squalor with their air filter.
Thing is the main draw of the first game is building a city from ground up. Skipping that part takes away a huge core part of its soul.
As someone who loved the first one, I’m just not getting the same level of citizen micromanagement that I enjoyed with the first one. I really enjoyed the progress system of starting with people harvesting to finally getting automatons.
The game is trash compared to the first one, ZERO EXPANDED LORE FIRST OF ALL. Also the game shits on your every decision by upsetting someone. You are punished for progress and that's really BAD GAME DESIGN. I found it much less fun than the first game, it feels like it was made by another company
Wdym no expanded lore? It’s filled with it, we know how the lamps operate, it’s implied what the actual cause of the frost was and a way to make things warm again. Like, it’s filled with lore!!
I love the first one. I’m really looking forward to the second one. I already have a pre-downloaded.
Nice! Hey I hope it meets your expectations! :)
@@gameranxTV definitely has so far I’m loving it
They got lazy. It would have been really hard to retain the intimate depth of the first game while expanding on the building mechanics and overall scale... so they didn't.
They chose scale and a more generic city builder approach, and forsook a lot of what made Frostpunk unique and intimate.
Completely agree.
Frostpunk 1 was phenomenal, I love that they went into a different direction with the second. I can’t wait to jump in!
ngl video is way to wide
I have over 100 hours in the first game, this feels like a fresh experience. The only thing I'm missing on FP2 is having more than one campaign, I liked that the first game had different places and stories for you to explore.
I love always liked Gameranx but here lately it just seems their opinions are just that of the majority. They used to just review and be genuine. Idk what’s happened
They've become kind of a yes man.... No opinion of their own, idk how to explain it but the tones just dont sound "real"?
One of the best games i have played...really underrated
I want so much to buy the Deluxe edition.... but my wallet says to wait day 1 GamePass... :D
lol we can understand that!
21:9 format, nice!
Hey, how you doing?
good, thanks!
One big lore improvement is that these settlements are not placed in the middle of a valley. It was always a pet peeve of mine in the first game because valleys surrounded by steep hills and mountains are some of the coldest places on Earth and would make the already cold temperatures many times worse.
I'm too early for comments.
You are the comments
Однажды мы поймем, что все мы всегда были комментариями @@novaca9826
And too late for "first" 😢
I'm too late to explore the wold west
I'm to early to be awake
People asking for stuff, managing resources, losing everything with a slightest mistake. This game looks like a job.
It's a strategy game what do you expect?
I almost never preorder games to play them early but I did for this one. I love it so far, the story is good and I like the politics between the factions. Hopefully they release DLC as good as the first one.
Yes, can't wait to play. After finishing a dozen campaigns from the original all I wanted was to go even bigger, expand to more locations and this games seems to do exactly that. Pretty straightforward expectations from a sequel and they seem to have delivered.
I bought Deleuxe at $110 CAD. Refunded at 2.1 hours on Steam. I'll buy again after 50% sale. Overpriced and not same building experience. I'll pick it up again on a sale. Sad because I loved first Frostpunk bought it day one.
The music from the first was my favourite part, the survival stuff was fine combined with the ticking clock before that great storm you had to survive
Already have over 15h in the game. Absolutely love it
haha nice! Glad it’s meeting expectations :)
The original game was a mile wide but an inch deep, like that Mars colony simulator, or the cave man simulator one (that are also by weird eastern european companies, in fact I think they're asset flips of the same game). I wouldn't surprise for FP2 to be the same. FP1 felt SO limited.
Oh damn. I just started Satisfactory too. This winter is gonna be management heavy..
I loved FP 1, and the sequal did not disappoint. Failure is part of the experience... as they say. Love it
It makes me very happy to hear that this game is amazing. The first game is so unique and well made. It makes me happy to see a bigger sequel not ruin itself or lose itself.
We only had IGN for a while, good thing your here.
Frostpunk 1 is one of my favorite games ever so I’m excited to branch with the new mechanics
I'm glad to hear it's so different, and Ihope the fandom gives it the loves. it deserves. The devs went out on a limb here, and I have a feeling the wait is gonnabe worth it!
I really like wish these youtube channels were more critical of games because they always make it sound like there is never anything wrong with these games.,you always get a sense of the game is better then it actually is
I never pre-ordered any game. Never ever.
Except this one.
I still play the first one and i will play after the release of the second one.