Yes, You CAN Charge Your Non-Tesla EV At A Tesla Destination Charger - Here's How To Do It!
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
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But what's going to stop people from stealing your adapter? Is there a locking mechanism?
@@Abolish101 You can use a small luggage lock on the J-1772 side. It'll prevent the button from being pressed and removed.
Do they have an adapter which lets vehicles which have supercharger access (such as Ford or Rivian) use the same adapter on a supercharger and a destination charger?
Imagine If each manufacturer had a different size of gasoline fillers! This needs to be regulated and standardized.
Electric cars are all about money.
Tesla had the charging network figured out. Other vehicle manufacturers laughed and didn't want to play along with tesla. Why they never reached out to tesla and ask to join their network is their own failure.
@@cs2884 That's why in Europe we use CCS, and Tesla fitted CCS here.. And even now, I can charge my non-Tesla ev at Tesla SuC's.
How is this any different to a gas pump with 3 different nozzles? One for Diesel, one for 100% gas, one for E10. In this case, you can accidentally put diesel in a gas engine, or gasoline in a diesel engine. Very expensive mistake to make.
@@cs2884 Um...no. It's the other way around. Tesla created the proprietary plug to prevent others from using their network.
I’ve said this as more and more companies go electronic, there’s probably going to be a point when either the industry or government will say something to the effect of make one universal plug for all vehicles
Just like the OB connectors.
They already did this in Europe you can't buy a Tesla in Europe without getting what I believe to be the J plug he talked about. And I believe they just opened supercharging to anybody with an electric car.
Europe is doing it and I think Asia did it as well. Looks like we'll be the last to adopt
The thing is the Tesla plug can do both DC fast charging as well as AC level 2. It’s technically superior but it won’t be adopted external to Tesla.
@@Johno144 the CCS port in Europe can do both, too. AC up to 50kw at the moment, DC up to 500 (but limited to 350 or so until bigger chargers go online)
Very cool adapter - Great video!!! Thanks for sharing
This is the best video I have seen yet that describes how charging works for electric vehicles.
Just ordered my Volvo C40. I was very nervous about access to chargers and this helped a ton. While there are quite a few non-Tesla chargers around, having this option will be great. Just need one for the super chargers and we’ll be all set! Thanks for the video and the link to the product.
Wouldn't it make moor sense just to by a Tesla....which CAN access Superchargers?
This is an awesome video! Great stuff as always!
Love your EV content! Could you do a long term review on the Mini SE if you still have it?
I got a Lectron adapter for my 7700 mile road trip around the US in my 2020 Chevy Bolt last year. As you mentioned it came in very handy at hotels. I found significantly more hotels with Tesla destination chargers than J1772 chargers, and the Tesla chargers were always free. Great product for road trips for sure.
That's because Telsa gives out the Destination chargers to the businesses for free including installation if the business pays for the electricity. A lot of times Tesla will put in 2-3 of their chargers and one J1772 charger all in the same spot. It's a win win for Tesla and the businesses.
Going to pick one of these up as soon as my Ford E Transit gets delivered, good stuff
Have a Tesla wall charger at home and just picked up the new Kia EV6. The first thing I ordered was this adapter. When I first plugged it in, the car said charging failed. As I was trying to figure out why, it all of a sudden started charging. Guess sometimes it just takes a few minutes to make the connection. Definitely a good buy. Thanks for your video.
Great Layman's explanation Tommy, TAHNKS
The Avery mothership!! Yum! Love the Majaraja IPA.
A very helpful video, my question is do you need to use the tesla app to use teslas DC charging station? Or do you just use the adaptor and plug it into your car, and you’re good to go?
Just plug in straight. No app needed.
Thanks dude! Very clear and helpful explanation for us Kona EV owners. I was watching another video on charging a Kona at Tesla chargers in the Netherlands and it looks like there / in Europe there’s a universal plug standard? The guy in that video plugged the Tesla “charger” directly into his Kona without needing an adaptor.
Interesting stuff! I had no idea of the differences between Tesla Chargers.
TeslaTap also sells the Mini which is a low profile adapter similar to the Lectron. Looks much cleaner
I can put gas in my car at any gas station because all gas pumps are the same. This should also be true for ev chargers.
I disagree. If we had a 100% standard charging type, it would be J1772 for Level 2 and CCS for Level 3, both of which are far inferior to NACS. Most companies are gravitating toward NACS now, so it is becoming the unofficial standard.
The Tesla owners are gonna love this! ;)
It's only fair, our cars come with j1772 adapters so we can use any level 2, I do think tesla should have offered a Tesla branded product to help fund addional destination chargers but they are now offering tesla chargers with j1772 so I guess they are going that route now.
As for the superchargers I welcome the increased capital to expand, I just feel like Bernie sanders when I say I hope non tesla's "pay their share" to help fund the infrastructure (I consider the cost of entry baked into the price of Teslas)
Perfect, win/win, get a fill up, piss off a snowflake. No downside.
@@snupermoto723 it's even better than that, you get a fill-up and you get to piss off two kinds of snowflakes: coal-rolling douche-bros because you're in an electric, and pearl clutching Teslaratis because your using "THEIR" electricity. It's win-win-win 😂
Why? They use J1772 all the time.
@@aaronw8606 All Tesla's come with several adapters. Tesla gives those destination chargers to businesses to attract business and promote EV's, but they sometimes include a J1772 charger with the Tesla ones because other car manufacturers don't include adapters
Yes, with the low-power charger you can get an adapter. But what tesla said about "open up" is their supercharger network, not just a low-power adapter. Cannot believe that Lectron didn't even give you guys a discount code, lol.
Also, would you pls ask Lectron a question: can they add some way on the tesla end to lock it to the tesla charger? I know the J1772 end would lock to the car, but if a tesla owner pulled up to the Tesla charger at a hotel, and saw someone other than another tesla using their charger, and decided to unplug you to charge theirs, is there a way to prevent people from doing that?
I didn't like that either which is why I bought a Tesla Tap. Usually you wouldn't have to worry about that with a Lectron charger as a lock would deter most people away but a TeslaTap is smaller, higher amp rated, has locks on both sides of the adapter and is made in the USA. Just returned my Lectron and bought an 80Amp Tesla Tap for future proofing. It's like $50 more than a Lectron counterpart but it's well worth it to not get unplugged by Tesla snobs
@@vocel343 Thanks, will look into it. Does it charge as reliable as the Lectron?
@@dearbulls Yes it does. In fact I would say it's better because they are actually (claiming to be) the original manufacturers of Tesla to J1772 adapters and everyone else just copied them. And if you look at their earlier models, it does look like the exact same model as the one in this video. You could never fit the one in the video in the glove box though. It would always have to go in the trunk or something. The Tesla Taps are like 5 inches and only stick out 3 inches plugged in. It's like what Tesla gives their customers the J1772 to Tesla adapter. Very small and compact. I forgot to mention it's the "mini" version you want. Don't get the big clunky one like in the video. Has a 1 year warranty as well.
do the charges usually take so long?
I have a question and would appreciate the answer! I have a 2018 nissan leaf according to the video I just need to get the adapter, I attach it to the adapter, I connect it and that's it? I don't have to pay anything??
There are certain businesses that offer free EV charging as a curtesy...no strings attached. Those are the chargers that work with these adapters.
I'd buy a TeslaTap, it's the same price, safety certified (UL listed), and made in the USA.
Teslatap gang
either one.
Yep. Also worth noting that the Lectron unit is only rated to 40A whereas there are vehicles and Telsa Destination Chargers capable of 48A. Such a combination would result in the Lectron adapter becoming a fuse...........
Hi, I’m in Australia and have a type 2 charger, I wondered why my type 2 connector didn’t work on an Audi - it plugged in but didn’t communicate. Is there anyone that could clarify the dip switch settings?
This was a great video. I've got a Mach-E on order and charging around me is limited to 2 non-Tesla charging ports, though I've got a level 2 installed in my garage. With Tesla dragging their feet (understandably so) about opening their superchargers to non-Tesla owners, this attachment helps at least plan better routes around the Midwest for road tripping until superchargers ultimately get opened for all.
this adapter does not support SC speeds. this is only for destination chargers (40A).
Do you know what this reminds off? Go back 25-30 years or so ago when fuel injection was just hitting the car market. All the different car brands had their own diagnostic sockets. They were the made to change them to the eobd sockets we use now. This is "that" all over again.
Can I use this adapter to charge my 2013 Chevy Volt on the Tesla network of chargers?
Thank you
Nope.
Wow, Great video!! Should be required to watch this video prior to purchasing your new EV car.
He plugged into the slow charger on the Leaf- so for his hour or so at the brewery, if the battery was down to 10%, wouldn't he only add a couple percent during that time?
Do the UK chargers say ‘OK’ to cars too? (Or is that only in the States?)
There’s a lot of bla,bla,bla in the UK and other European countries, not just concerning EVs either!
Currently, Tesla is starting tests in Europe in remote locations to see if it'll work. If they go well, they'll likely open it up.
Will you get the superchargering capabilities on a non Tesla? Or do you just get to use the superchargers as regular chargers?
How is payment handled?
new to electric well my kid is . do they make a chademo adapter for the tesla fast charger
Any idea on when Tesla super charger network will be opened up for non-tesla vehicles?
I already got the small Lectron Tesla-J1772 adapter, the one without the wire betwen the two ends of adapter, and it's work perfectly with my 2022 Bolt EUV and many time I can recharge at 8 Kw and more dependly if the Tesla destination charger is on a 48 A circuit, so I can get 11.5 Kw of charge because the 2022 Bolt can take up to 11.5 Kw of charge instead of the majority of EV that can hand 7,5 Kw max!
I've heard these don't work with the wrangler 4xe
bought the Ectron to charge my Chrysler Pacifica 2023 plug in hybrid at home using my Tsla Home charger, but got an error code from the van- anyone have any tips to share?
Been waiting for a dongle of some sort to make things more universal...after all electrons are electrons. I can't wait until everyone gets onboard with a standard plug.
I don't really understand why Tesla went with their own plug in the US. In Europe Teslas have a Type 2 connector which all other EV's use too so no adapters needed :)
@@sekopiski our North American Gov'ts are useless, across the pond Apple is being corralled into USB-C for e-waste purposes and ease of use. I bet Tesla got told to play fair or to take their ball and go home. I can see Tesla making less cars and focusing on charging stations, alot of money out there for subscriptions and alot less overhead, obviously I do not see them stopping but akin to Apple the subscription model will be their golden egg so to speak seeing as how they can get money from their own customers as well as Nissans🤑
@@sekopiski because there was no std at the beginning. EU mandates forced them, doesnt exist in US.
How do you pay though? Don't you pay for the charging through the Tesla app? If you don't have a Tesla, then I'm not sure how the account vs payment would work
If it doesn't fit , try another hole. That's what we used to say in the early days of PC building.
Can you do something similar with the newer EVs like FORD lightning or Hyundai Ionic 5 ?? Would be really helpful and encouraging to buy non-tesla EVs .. thanks
Great advertorial! These are also good when the J1772 is broken or blocked and the Tesla is available. It will reduce waiting times.
So it says it does not work on the TESLA Supercharger stations that are common everywhere..
Do They Have 1 For The Mustang Truck?
Does this work with a Chevy Bolt?
US need to do what Europe as done and specify a standard charging port like the CSS. Tesla now allow none Teslas to charge at their super chargers in the Netherlands too...
In reality that hinders progress. Look at the Euro cell phone laws...micro USB mandate for damn near a decade. Europe only just now decided that USB C is the way to go, after the rest of the world has been using Type C for years.
Would this work for a Toyota Prius prime? I’m afraid that even Tesla destination chargers are too strong and might mess up this car 🤔
For level 2, your vehicle determines the current draw.
Yes but how do I pay for the power??? I have the adapter, but please explain how I pay for the power!
You don't. These are free chargers set up at certain businesses. Called "destination chargers".
Used mine many times road tripping.
Tesla already started opening DC chargers in Europe, specifically Netherlands. It is a pilot as they’re testing it. You use the Tesla app to get access and to pay for charging. There are quite a few videos of people using it already. In the US it’s a bit more complicated as it would require an adapter, but it’s coming.
Those Tesla Superchargers available to other makes is limited to only 10 chargers in the Netherlands. And nothing is certain about when that experiment will expand to the rest of Europe and the U.S. It could be a long wait (why would Tesla want to inhibit sales of its own cars? Altruism?).
@@kenhoward3512 All new Tesla in Europe are required to have CCS charging port and Superchargers must be equipped with CCS. That s EU requirement. You see the trend ? Tesla are allowed to charge from other to CCS chargers for some time, Elon not allowing other to charge from the Superchargers will make him looks bad.
Speed was bad though. May be try at a level 2 center?
That's cool😎
Lectron makes a smaller adapter to. Dont they?
8:12 come 2024 those leaf blowers will be going full electric starting in California and it won't be long before Colorado falls in line
And I've used an electric leaf blower at work. Still noisy. Any time you have a fan moving air...
@@nlpnt Oh yeah, they sound like hand dryers but louder.
Excuse my lack of education on here... But is there safety measures that prevent someone from unplugging a charger connector from the car? In that same regard, what prevents someone from stealing a Tesla to non Tesla converter charge port cable? In other words, is there a locking mechanism built into vehicles that prevent the cable from releasing to anybody but the owner or key holder of the vehicle?
A Tesla plug won't release unless the vehicle is unlocked. I am not sure if it would release the adapter if you unplug the cable from the adapter while charging (now I have to go and try that out).
I am not sure if non Tesla lock the charging cable when the vehicle is locked I would think they do, it's common sense.
But for Tesla and non Tesla, the charging cable can be disconnected from the adapter at anytime.
I hope that answers your question.
The Nissan Leaf has an option to lock the plug in place.
Nissan Leaf Chademo ports lock when they are fast charging and will only unlock when the power transfer is either completed or cancelled.
Wondering if there is a way to keep this from being stolen?
It has a hole which allows you to lock the thumb release with a small padlock.
If the EV has an electronic charging lock, as most do, then the adapter should be locked into the vehicle.
good old American ingenuity !!!!
Wait for Tesla to CCS adapter
But no DC fast charging - right?
*This is a great informative video and is quite illustrative of why we love TFC and why it is so popular. This is also why electric vehicles are only 2% of auto sales. Nobody wants to deal with these issues. After 100 years of pulling into a gasoline station of any brand with a vehicle of any brand, the EV industry is creating problems to further confuse and obfuscate the recharging process, which is the Achilles heel of EVs in the first place.*
*unless you have a tesla, currently.
This only applies to traveling, 99% of charging is done at home. Most places that’s I’ve stayed in California have non-Tesla level 2 chargers. Tesla cars come with an adapter to use a standard (j1772) level 2 chargers.
I love it how people love to complain that Teslas do not use the "standard" connection but you have to remember when Tesla came out with their charger no one else was making electric cars because everyone thought that no one wanted electric cars
It’s still that way. Nobody but the 2% wants an electric car. And you can sell ice to 2% of Eskimos.
and other automakers are welcome to pay to license it. everyone just refuses.
Here in Europe the Tesla destination chargers come with the menekes conector and some are only for teslas (red plate) and others for non Tesla (White plate)
Cool
Very Informative
Hyundai might bring the 800 volt chargers with optional wireless from Korea to the US
Can put down a lot of beers in 2 hours of charge time. Then call an Uber to get home.
Why FSD was invented! 😀
@@bartwaggoner2000 good point
@@robm6789 It never takes me more than 20 minutes to charge my Tesla to 75% . The range is 330 miles. So I have 222 miles worth of charge. Basically, the stops are planned by the Tesla itself using the onboard GPS Navigator. Drive time between charges on a road trip is between 2 and 3 hours. The superchargers are placed near the interstates and restaurants and other businesses. Basically you just press the right hand button on the steering wheel, say "Navigate to "wherever, some 500 miles or more, or less away" and drive. If you have Full Self Driving, you don't even really drive...just hold onto the steering wheel and pay attention to the traffic just in case something unsafe appears on your trip. I just made a 510 mile trip. 4 stops averaging about 20 minutes for "fuel". Much more pleasant than my previous vacation using my Volvo XC60 turbo- and super- charged gasoline engine. I do really love the Volvo. Really nice car. But it's nice to not have to worry about missing an exit or even keping the car in the lane, or fighting the traffic. Just let the Tesla worry about all that. It always knows the right exit and navigates the car into the exit and everywhere else, slows and speeds up and changes lanes depending on the traffic. Really non-stressful car trips. I'm sure other EVs are similar.
But Tesla built up the charging network before filling the highways with cars...and they continue to stay ahead of production with the build out and build up. I think I bought the right EV. Just do your homework before you buy. Don't go by what "they" say. So, having the long range and the navigator to plan your route in just a few seconds, and the self driving coordinated with the navigator. and the super-fast superchargers, ...it was done right, and these are the main reasons I went Tesla. I'm just a Cajun from Louisiana; son of a tenant farmer, average kind of guy.
The Tesla port is the new charging standard in the USA. This should be less of an issue in the future.
How long until people are stealing the adapters
That would be as smart as Apple using USB c.....
"Big scary port looks like it will eat your family!" 😅😅😅😅😊
I can see someone setting up for charging and going into the hotel only to find that the adapter has been "borrowed" during the night
The charger connector can be locked to the port so that it cannot be removed unless you unlock the car.
@@mowcowbell no, you need to use a separate padlock.
Most EVs have electronic locks, but someone could still unplug from the adapter, leaving it hanging off the car.
@@laloajuria4678 I own a Nissan Leaf, which has a lock button inside the car. That would lock the adapter to the car, but, someone still could unplug the Tesla end from that side of the adapter.
150 bucks eh, i wonder how much 2nd hand value it have.. imma go scout around tesla charger with non tesla car to find 1
Maybe this is why Tesla came out with a J1772 destination charger?
Wait for the second gen plug it should work with the fast charger
Tesla would have to agree to allow it. It's about more than just an adapter.
As you stated, this does not work at Tesla Superchargers! Good luck finding free level 2 Tesla destination chargers that provide any reasonably fast charging! Also, many of these chargers are blocked by ICE cars staying at hotels.
Man those chargers are incredibly slow! The free ones drive you insane... I got this adapter a year or so ago and maybe used it 3 times.
Destination chargers are intended to fill your car overnight while you sleep at a hotel, or to give you a little range bump while you are in a restaurant or bar for an hour or two. Similarly free Jplug chargers like Volta chargers at malls are only intended to give you a range bump while you shop. They were more important when I had a compliance car with 85 miles of total range, but now that I have a Tesla with 240 miles of range, I don't even park in those spots. I charge at home while I sleep if I am in my local area. The only time I use any of the public chargers is when I am on vacation
What you call a destination charge we call a standard home charger and you always been able to use tesla home chargers with other cars.
A lot of Wallboxes from Tesla are set to accept Tesla cars. There are switches inside the Wallbox.
we need one standard plug for all as default
Hmm… You can get dongles for your car now. Great !
100% needs some kind of locking mechanism or someone will just walk off with it.
They already have it. Most EVs have electronic locks, locking the cable (adapter) to the car. The few that don't can usually get by with a small pad lock if so desired.
And this is why most people don't buy electric vehicles, not enough infrastructure and the manufacturers don't want to standardize charging. All I want to do is just charge my vehicle man!! Great informative video Tommy, I'm staying with gas...LOL!!
Now more non Tesla vehicles parking in Tesla parking stations.....Wait until the place you are staying only has a Tesla charger and you see a Leaf in that spot ha
Sorry for my stupid question. I don’t have an electric car yet, but I was wondering what stops someone just unplugging it and you are out all that money.
The cord is locked in and someone can’t just unplug it with their bare hands. Once you unlock your car, then you can remove the cord.
Mach E can lock the charge connector to the car and you need the key fob to release it
@@paulira7407 thanks for your reply. If I can impose on you some more, i only suspect the cable wouldn’t have a machanical lock in it, if you unplugged the Tesla cable and the car no longer received power, will the car auto release the part plugged into the car?
Great video Tommy, super informative! Tesla is going to become the defacto term for charging soon…
Can someone easily remove and walk away with this adapter?
Not if you lock it in. Same protection that stops people from pulling it out as a prank or vandalism while the driver is away.
yes
The adapter may be locked onto the vehicle. Most, not all, EVs have electronic locks. But the cable can still be removed from the adapter if someone wants to be a dick.
2h from 83 to 100% ... WTF?! Just like charging at home.
Well, yes. It is Level 2 just like your home.
$125? I paid $25 for mine.. Man in 2 years the price dropped fast.
I give them a few months to close that loophole.
Feel like Tesla drivers would get salty seeing that if for instance they weren't able to be in a charging parking spot because a Leaf was in it ---- A lot of petty people out there. I'd be a bit nervous that the petty would result in some vadalism
Amazon says this is NOT compatible with Tesla supercharger!
How is this news? I've been using Tesla destination chargers for my Bolt for the past 2 years
Me too, but this is for the 99% of people just getting an EV now or finding this video in the future. They aren't early adopters and this is all confusing magic to them. They also won't understand why one car charges so much faster than theirs so some kind of numbering system or color coding would be helpful for the humans that don't care about cars at all and they just want to get fuel for it.
I'm imagining myself pulling into a tesla supercharger with a non tesla vehicle + adapter and I'd anticipate getting a LOT of death stares from Tesla folk for clogging up what is supposed to be an "exclusive" charging experience for them.
It doesn't work at the superchargers.
@@MrColdNoodles oh yeah sorry I missed that
If a "Tesla vehicle charging only" sign is posted, better not charge a non-Tesla vehicle there.
How does one secure this adaptor while not standing nest to the EV golf cart?
they lock into the Charging port when charging and can only be unlocked by owner
you need to use a separate padlock.
@@laloajuria4678 no you dont
@@wiks101 if someone wants your charge plug, it looks like you do. Only one end of the adapter locks into place and that's the car to the adapter end. The Tesla plug to the adapter doesn't appear to lock.
@@MrColdNoodles I own a Tesla you don't and you don't know what the hell you're talking about
The tesla destination charger used the international standard for EV's that was made in the 90's for all the cool california compliance. (EV1) EV's and the EV's that never went away in other parts of the world, SAEj1172, the only difference is that the port is lined up differently. ITs the same standard, and same language, just a slightly different plug. The Supercharger, which is now dead over CCS globally, thanks europe! Was a stupid custom made charge standard, they made up to charge the model s super fast in 2009, when fast chargers for EV's didnt exist. That is why you cant supercharge other EV's, but you can Destination charge.
very nice the big problem will be theft these adapters will disappear quickly
The plugs can be locked into place when attached to the port.
Most EVs have electronic locks, locking the cable (adapter) into the vehicle. For the few that don't, a small lock can usually be added to keep it locked in place.
Tesla adapter is a must for anyone road tripping the Leaf.
hehe, for your 2 fast charging sessions per day.
@@laloajuria4678 the adapter is AC only. Not DC charging on the supercharger network yet...with a Leaf. Hopefully next year.
The CHAdeMO is getting phased out. I still don't understand how this is good for road trips for Leaf drivers. Do you only try 200 mi and then stay in hotel? That sounds silly. Where you sit around for 8 hours waiting for your car to charge it at 6.5 kW?
@@MrColdNoodles more chademos are still being installed. Chademo will be doable for road trips for the next 3-4 years, but might be questionable after that. I recently drove from Lawrence Kansas to North of Chicago in a day with my Leaf (580 miles) and every stop had multiple chademos.
If it works it works how can it be a fluke ?
Tesla is mainly n battery company anyway 😉 so thats good
Very informative, Tommy! Thx!!!