When Braius (not sure how to spell Sam's character's name) sees the art left behind by Jester, he notices it and reacts. What if he was at Travelercon and hates the gods because the Traveler abandoned him
Based on Sam’s longer emotional reaction to the dicks, along with Braius’s mention that he’s moved to Asmodeus, I think this is super plausible and fun!
One of my favorite things Matt does as Essek is when Essek speaks Zemnian. I think it's just a lovely and kind of subtle nod to his relationship with Caleb.
I think Ludinus drinking his own kool-aid for so long he can't see that his plan is basically akin to making himself a god makes him a really interesting parallel to the Raven Queen. Also makes his obsession with her something that can be explored more, because I'm not sure we've really touched on that since Molaesmyr
I think it would make for an amazing end to the campaign if Ashton and Dorian decided to side with Ludinous and have some pvp for the end battle. I would hate it but love it.
Of course we have to wait to see if it works out but both in the episode and in Cooldown, all your questions about the soul ancor were answered. Essek made it sound like it is possible for them to trap Delilah in the soul ancor without seperating her from Laudna in such a way that Laudna would still have her powers. In Cooldown Marisha used the arc reactor from Iron Man from the Marvel movies as an example because as far as Laudna knows, she needs to be connected to Delilah to survive.
It amazed me, with this dad-joke-heavy assembly of people, that when Essek was transformed and he continued to levitate in his new caprine form, that no one said, "Whatever floats your goat." ;) As always, you've given a superb synopsis of the episode! And, for the record: you always look amazing, but the multi-faceted shades of your hair are absolutely, wonderfully fabulous! In the meantime, though, I would ask, please, don't revert to the Fey Realm just yet--there's still a lot of campaign three to go, and having you guiding us along it is essential to my experience of it at this stage! :)
Here’s a theory: In 4 sided dive they speculated that the boy the matron teleported out of the city could have known the plans for the factotum malleus. Through this right now asmodeus learns of that. At some point in the future, probably not this campaign, it is his play to get at these plans bc they might still somehow somewhere be out there.
Correct me if I'm misremembering, but didnt BH find a bunch of evidence that ludi was researching the matron's ritual? Kinda wild that he's trying to convince everyone that he doesnt understand the concept of a power vaccuum, and that all of his actions havent proven that he would totally take advantage of that. Honestly think that predathos was his plan C. A. The matron's ritual B. The mallius Factorum C. Predathos. He would never risk his own life and power by releasing something more powerful than the gods, risking becoming even lower in the foodchain, if he had not already failed endlessly at usurping a God or eradicating all of them himself.
It was in the notes with his staff and the harness in Molesmyr! His notes mentioned needing to know her true name. Maybe Predathos is the tantrum reaction to not being able to figure out the ascension 😂.
I've been hoping that they use Pike or other known clerics to help Laudna transition from an Undead Warlock to a Celestial Warlock, even before they lost FCG as the primary healer - now it just makes more sense than even before.
I think the characterization Matt is going for is more interesting than the power hungry mage. I think he's crafted Ludinus to represent a true believer, full conviction and faith in the rightness of their cause. Thinking of characters like Kreia from Kotor2 or the Operative from Serenity. Or what Thanos attempts to frame himself as in Infinity War. I think Ludinus, justifiably, sees the gods as oppressors, that will forever hold the mortal races as their playthings; and worse, to limit their potential. He sees the existance of Gods as a shackle on the world of mortals. And he's right. The gods are fickle and tempermental; their 'disagreements' destroy eras. They are not fundamental or natural to Exandia, they killed the titans that existed before. They have nanipulated history, and hidden truths, to sustain their power, and protect themselves. His idea to use Predathos is undeniably going to backfire. But the plan to reveal the truth of Aeor, what the gods tried to hide; I think he's absolutely right. Give people the truth, and let them decide for themselves. You don't need ancient horrors to kill the gods, just need the faithful to denounce them.
How will binding Delilah affect Laudna's power? It won't! Downfall showed bound deamons being used to power things like engines and being servants. The binding crystal/stone would basically turn Delilah into an arcane battery for Laudna.
@@SoliasSerene sure, potentially an arcane battery that could be used as raw energy, but Delilah is her patron. She has to be willing and able to give Laudna her powers.
Perhaps the anchor may break the patron bond because delilah wouldn't willingly give her power anymore, but it could mechanics wise maybe explain laudna keeping her spell slots etc so she doesn't "lose" anything from losing her deal.
@@kiedragerl8119 Fjord didn't have any powers for a little bit when he broke his pact, then he got them back when he began his oath to the wild mother.
1. Trapping any entity is not the same as forming a pact with them. There is usually some sort of contract or oath that makes this transaction between a warlock and a patron transactional and beneficial to both parties. 2. Pretty much any tech that could do this was lost when Aeor fell. Otherwise they would just find a way to do the same thing to Predathos or Ludinis could have rebound dominox to his will.
I believe Ludinus is being manipulated by Predathus. Because this last episode had a lot of well putted silense in some questions. I dunno, just spiting a crazy idea. Btw, your content is awesome. Thanks, Lu.
If Ashton has issues with decisions being made without his input that effect him, then he needs to look at what he has done because he has done exactly that
They have already canonically explained Laudna cannot live without Delilah. If you sever the patron from the warlock, everything stops. Laudna is a hallowed one and would cease living. Additionally Delilah can take her powers back and leave laudna just a walking corpse, or just puppet Laudna to steal the battery at a later time. Laudna attempting to remove Delilah is likely more than enough grounds to break the contract between them.
I think Ashton saying, "No gods, just kings" was their way of saying, "Tyrants are tyrants, divine or not." They don't trust Ludinus to not be a tyrant, or Predathos for that matter either, which does give them motivation to stay in this fight regardless of their loyalty to the group.
I think this is the earliest I have been to an upload. After 2 minutes! Edit: just watched the video, comment time! Overall I really liked the episode, I loved the beginning with actual discussion of each members worldview. That felt deep and meaningful, so i really appreciate it. I am a bit concerned about the "trapping Delilah in a poke-ball" idea. While I can see it making sense, it feels like a disservice to Delilah as a character and minimizes the amount of power she has. Maybe this ritual would instead allow Laudna to make a new pact contract with Delilah, and through that they can be a better character going forward.
wouldn't it be poetic justice to diminish that evil lady to nothing more than a personal power source? I think both Marisha and Laura made reference to Iron-mans chest thing. I don't think the option is to reshape the contract, it's either contain or kill Delilah. personally I don't think this would be a disservice to the character, nor does it diminish her powers. to the contrary, the soul anchor they intend to use was strong enough to contain a grand deamon! that should signal the level of power we are talking about.
I knew you meant Cravenedge Luna, I knew, because great nerdy minds think alike. As I was watching last Thursday someone in the Twitch chat said, "what is this madness, a cameo of Cravenedge before Grog?" I thought that was priceless. Love your reviews Luna thanks for doing this. ❤
I still think Dorian is likely to try to kill the gods, if a golden opportunity arises. He's so angry about his brother being murdered by a god. Maybe that moment is when Orym and Dorian will finally have The Talk!
Imogen is in distain with Ludinus and his goals, probably much like Orym has been from the begining. Both have felt the personal pain that Ludinus has placed on each of their family structures in so many ways. BUT....? and thats a big but, ( lol, thats for you Bailey), if Imogen has to call upon her full ruidusborn powers to save her Bells Hells family, would she do it? What kind of consequences would Matt put on her for doing so?
Frankly I am very bored with this endless debate about wether Ludanis is right in releasing Predathos or not, if the gods should be destroyed or not. But I am of a very rare religious mind in this community, so I just have to wait it out. However, I must have missed something, when and where was it established that the immortal souls was something highjacked by the gods rather than created by them? to my understanding the gods tamed the elemental chaos of the earlier Exandria and created the mortal races, separate from the elemental beings.
From my understanding they created the spell to restore a true form. Mechanically yes it would work but also Caleb loves Essek for who he is, all of it and Essek is still proud of who is now. He does disguise himself when he feels he needs to. Plus if I remember correctly the spell changes the attributes and traits of the person as well so to maintain his same life span Essek would pretty much still be an elf just a different color which is 😬 but also then he'd look like Ludinus who he can't stand so 🤷
I dont get ashtons reaction and saying the gods will snite them the second they leave aeor. Sure if theyd learned how to make the machine but thats not the case. All we saw was the details to a story that the world of exandria already knows, tthe gods teamed up to destroy aeor, theres nothing there truly shocking and world shattering. Then again i've never liked ashton this whole campaign. Dont get me wrong talisen is great i'm just not a fan of this character
I think it was more of a "we know their secret now will they do to us what they did to Aeor to keep it" type of thing and their track record with the gods has been spotty. Ashton did mention he had no qualms with the Matron be cause she just is what she is. Also sorry in the interest of not just spamming the comments, I know we suspected it but can we PLEASE just have a moment for the fact that LUDINUS CONFIRMED MOLESMYR WAS HIS FAULT?!?! Like she shrugged it off as an attempt to connect to Ruidus but like 😱😱😱😱 Just in that event thousands were killed and it's been corrupted the Savilir Wood ever since. (I also just know that the Cad in Taliesin was seething hearing him confirm he's the reason the Grove was so sick)
The source of a non betrayer god is manipulation and required blind devotion. If any mortal could have anything that could cause that power to be taken from them, their manipulation of the people would go away and humanity would become a threat to them again. The Dawnfather sent his worshipers to a remote area to lay waste to non-believers and to seize control of an area that had an abundance of natural magic that was there before the gods. Orym and Launda laid waste to the church with the roll20 guests and witnessed first hand that even the brightest of gods is not what people believe he is. The dawnfather even threatened Chet's ex with the life he gave her in exchange for her blind devotion and she actively rebels against him when she can. If anything I think Orym is too blinded by revenge and hatred to see that Ludinis made some valid points even if he was the pot calling the kettle black.
When Braius (not sure how to spell Sam's character's name) sees the art left behind by Jester, he notices it and reacts. What if he was at Travelercon and hates the gods because the Traveler abandoned him
That is a very cool idea.
Oooo that would be fun
Thats sounds like something Sam would do!
Based on Sam’s longer emotional reaction to the dicks, along with Braius’s mention that he’s moved to Asmodeus, I think this is super plausible and fun!
I was close!
One of my favorite things Matt does as Essek is when Essek speaks Zemnian. I think it's just a lovely and kind of subtle nod to his relationship with Caleb.
@@erikssiren that’s when The Traveler shows up and plops Jester on the throne, making her God 😂
@8:10 Real easy to SAY you don't want the throne when it's already occupied. But when there's a sudden vacancy...
I think Ludinus drinking his own kool-aid for so long he can't see that his plan is basically akin to making himself a god makes him a really interesting parallel to the Raven Queen. Also makes his obsession with her something that can be explored more, because I'm not sure we've really touched on that since Molaesmyr
I think it would make for an amazing end to the campaign if Ashton and Dorian decided to side with Ludinous and have some pvp for the end battle. I would hate it but love it.
I don't see Doeian betraying the team for anything.
Of course we have to wait to see if it works out but both in the episode and in Cooldown, all your questions about the soul ancor were answered. Essek made it sound like it is possible for them to trap Delilah in the soul ancor without seperating her from Laudna in such a way that Laudna would still have her powers. In Cooldown Marisha used the arc reactor from Iron Man from the Marvel movies as an example because as far as Laudna knows, she needs to be connected to Delilah to survive.
Huh that is an interesting. I dont have beacon, so i missed it. But yeah, the Iron Man arc reactor is a good way of viewing it.
It amazed me, with this dad-joke-heavy assembly of people, that when Essek was transformed and he continued to levitate in his new caprine form, that no one said, "Whatever floats your goat." ;)
As always, you've given a superb synopsis of the episode!
And, for the record: you always look amazing, but the multi-faceted shades of your hair are absolutely, wonderfully fabulous! In the meantime, though, I would ask, please, don't revert to the Fey Realm just yet--there's still a lot of campaign three to go, and having you guiding us along it is essential to my experience of it at this stage! :)
Here’s a theory: In 4 sided dive they speculated that the boy the matron teleported out of the city could have known the plans for the factotum malleus. Through this right now asmodeus learns of that. At some point in the future, probably not this campaign, it is his play to get at these plans bc they might still somehow somewhere be out there.
Correct me if I'm misremembering, but didnt BH find a bunch of evidence that ludi was researching the matron's ritual?
Kinda wild that he's trying to convince everyone that he doesnt understand the concept of a power vaccuum, and that all of his actions havent proven that he would totally take advantage of that.
Honestly think that predathos was his plan C.
A. The matron's ritual
B. The mallius Factorum
C. Predathos.
He would never risk his own life and power by releasing something more powerful than the gods, risking becoming even lower in the foodchain, if he had not already failed endlessly at usurping a God or eradicating all of them himself.
It was in the notes with his staff and the harness in
Molesmyr! His notes mentioned needing to know her true name. Maybe Predathos is the tantrum reaction to not being able to figure out the ascension 😂.
I've been hoping that they use Pike or other known clerics to help Laudna transition from an Undead Warlock to a Celestial Warlock, even before they lost FCG as the primary healer - now it just makes more sense than even before.
As someone who stopped watching CR3 and only recently got back into watching it your videos are a sooo helpful. Keep up the good work
I think the characterization Matt is going for is more interesting than the power hungry mage. I think he's crafted Ludinus to represent a true believer, full conviction and faith in the rightness of their cause.
Thinking of characters like Kreia from Kotor2 or the Operative from Serenity. Or what Thanos attempts to frame himself as in Infinity War.
I think Ludinus, justifiably, sees the gods as oppressors, that will forever hold the mortal races as their playthings; and worse, to limit their potential. He sees the existance of Gods as a shackle on the world of mortals. And he's right. The gods are fickle and tempermental; their 'disagreements' destroy eras. They are not fundamental or natural to Exandia, they killed the titans that existed before. They have nanipulated history, and hidden truths, to sustain their power, and protect themselves.
His idea to use Predathos is undeniably going to backfire. But the plan to reveal the truth of Aeor, what the gods tried to hide; I think he's absolutely right. Give people the truth, and let them decide for themselves. You don't need ancient horrors to kill the gods, just need the faithful to denounce them.
How will binding Delilah affect Laudna's power? It won't! Downfall showed bound deamons being used to power things like engines and being servants. The binding crystal/stone would basically turn Delilah into an arcane battery for Laudna.
@@SoliasSerene sure, potentially an arcane battery that could be used as raw energy, but Delilah is her patron. She has to be willing and able to give Laudna her powers.
@@TerribleGM Good point. I wonder if she'd stop being a warlock at that point and become something else instead?
Perhaps the anchor may break the patron bond because delilah wouldn't willingly give her power anymore, but it could mechanics wise maybe explain laudna keeping her spell slots etc so she doesn't "lose" anything from losing her deal.
@@kiedragerl8119 Fjord didn't have any powers for a little bit when he broke his pact, then he got them back when he began his oath to the wild mother.
1. Trapping any entity is not the same as forming a pact with them. There is usually some sort of contract or oath that makes this transaction between a warlock and a patron transactional and beneficial to both parties.
2. Pretty much any tech that could do this was lost when Aeor fell. Otherwise they would just find a way to do the same thing to Predathos or Ludinis could have rebound dominox to his will.
Wow, such good timing - I just checked the app if you uploaded something 😂
I believe Ludinus is being manipulated by Predathus. Because this last episode had a lot of well putted silense in some questions. I dunno, just spiting a crazy idea. Btw, your content is awesome. Thanks, Lu.
If Ashton has issues with decisions being made without his input that effect him, then he needs to look at what he has done because he has done exactly that
They have already canonically explained Laudna cannot live without Delilah. If you sever the patron from the warlock, everything stops. Laudna is a hallowed one and would cease living. Additionally Delilah can take her powers back and leave laudna just a walking corpse, or just puppet Laudna to steal the battery at a later time. Laudna attempting to remove Delilah is likely more than enough grounds to break the contract between them.
Great stuff as usual, Luna!
I wonder if the little vegetable garden outside the house is a nod to Yasha
I think Ashton saying, "No gods, just kings" was their way of saying, "Tyrants are tyrants, divine or not." They don't trust Ludinus to not be a tyrant, or Predathos for that matter either, which does give them motivation to stay in this fight regardless of their loyalty to the group.
I think this is the earliest I have been to an upload. After 2 minutes!
Edit: just watched the video, comment time!
Overall I really liked the episode, I loved the beginning with actual discussion of each members worldview. That felt deep and meaningful, so i really appreciate it.
I am a bit concerned about the "trapping Delilah in a poke-ball" idea. While I can see it making sense, it feels like a disservice to Delilah as a character and minimizes the amount of power she has. Maybe this ritual would instead allow Laudna to make a new pact contract with Delilah, and through that they can be a better character going forward.
wouldn't it be poetic justice to diminish that evil lady to nothing more than a personal power source? I think both Marisha and Laura made reference to Iron-mans chest thing. I don't think the option is to reshape the contract, it's either contain or kill Delilah. personally I don't think this would be a disservice to the character, nor does it diminish her powers. to the contrary, the soul anchor they intend to use was strong enough to contain a grand deamon! that should signal the level of power we are talking about.
I knew you meant Cravenedge Luna, I knew, because great nerdy minds think alike. As I was watching last Thursday someone in the Twitch chat said, "what is this madness, a cameo of Cravenedge before Grog?" I thought that was priceless. Love your reviews Luna thanks for doing this. ❤
wasn't that Marisha that said it?
@@davidbergfors6820 Most likely, I was laughing so hard I do not remember honestly
I'm catching up, I'm on ep 82 or something rn and I can't wait to watch this when I'm caught up lol
I still think Dorian is likely to try to kill the gods, if a golden opportunity arises. He's so angry about his brother being murdered by a god. Maybe that moment is when Orym and Dorian will finally have The Talk!
Imogen is in distain with Ludinus and his goals, probably much like Orym has been from the begining. Both have felt the personal pain that Ludinus has placed on each of their family structures in so many ways. BUT....? and thats a big but, ( lol, thats for you Bailey), if Imogen has to call upon her full ruidusborn powers to save her Bells Hells family, would she do it? What kind of consequences would Matt put on her for doing so?
when you said said surprise guest i 100% thought you meant Omar
Frankly I am very bored with this endless debate about wether Ludanis is right in releasing Predathos or not, if the gods should be destroyed or not. But I am of a very rare religious mind in this community, so I just have to wait it out.
However, I must have missed something, when and where was it established that the immortal souls was something highjacked by the gods rather than created by them?
to my understanding the gods tamed the elemental chaos of the earlier Exandria and created the mortal races, separate from the elemental beings.
There's been hints the creation story is dogma more than fact, but no outright confirmation as far as I'm aware
@@SethRGray see, that's what bugs me. But in the 4-sided dive they speak of it like hard confirmed fact, just not when it's been announced.
Delilah will probably be in campaign 4 as well.............
does anyone know if Caleb gave the spell that changes your race to esick or why hasnt he used it?
From my understanding they created the spell to restore a true form. Mechanically yes it would work but also Caleb loves Essek for who he is, all of it and Essek is still proud of who is now. He does disguise himself when he feels he needs to. Plus if I remember correctly the spell changes the attributes and traits of the person as well so to maintain his same life span Essek would pretty much still be an elf just a different color which is 😬 but also then he'd look like Ludinus who he can't stand so 🤷
Hmmm no kitty sighting today
10:52 did you mean to phrase it that way, rather than Laudna’s Delilah problem?
I dont get ashtons reaction and saying the gods will snite them the second they leave aeor. Sure if theyd learned how to make the machine but thats not the case. All we saw was the details to a story that the world of exandria already knows, tthe gods teamed up to destroy aeor, theres nothing there truly shocking and world shattering. Then again i've never liked ashton this whole campaign. Dont get me wrong talisen is great i'm just not a fan of this character
I think it was more of a "we know their secret now will they do to us what they did to Aeor to keep it" type of thing and their track record with the gods has been spotty. Ashton did mention he had no qualms with the Matron be cause she just is what she is.
Also sorry in the interest of not just spamming the comments, I know we suspected it but can we PLEASE just have a moment for the fact that LUDINUS CONFIRMED MOLESMYR WAS HIS FAULT?!?! Like she shrugged it off as an attempt to connect to Ruidus but like 😱😱😱😱 Just in that event thousands were killed and it's been corrupted the Savilir Wood ever since. (I also just know that the Cad in Taliesin was seething hearing him confirm he's the reason the Grove was so sick)
The source of a non betrayer god is manipulation and required blind devotion. If any mortal could have anything that could cause that power to be taken from them, their manipulation of the people would go away and humanity would become a threat to them again. The Dawnfather sent his worshipers to a remote area to lay waste to non-believers and to seize control of an area that had an abundance of natural magic that was there before the gods. Orym and Launda laid waste to the church with the roll20 guests and witnessed first hand that even the brightest of gods is not what people believe he is. The dawnfather even threatened Chet's ex with the life he gave her in exchange for her blind devotion and she actively rebels against him when she can. If anything I think Orym is too blinded by revenge and hatred to see that Ludinis made some valid points even if he was the pot calling the kettle black.