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Great work and I think £300 would be a reasonable charge due to repeat visits and the value you saved them. As a potential customer I'd be very happy with 10% of the cost
Nice job Kirky. £200-250 seems fair to me, but I’m sure the Landscape Guy would happily pay £500, rather than the £3,000 quoted by Monocouche Man. David (from that there London)
Made a cracking job of patching that in. Considering took you 2 trips to complete the work and you needed a bag of material £250-300 would've been very reasonable. Served my time with my old man as well. 40 years later can still hear his voice in the back of my head. You're a top tradesman Kirk, all the best mate
Top bloke! 👍🏻.. Not only giving us free tips and advice from your years of knowledge but helping people get out the s#&t on the way. If only there were more like you. You give me hope!!!.. Good on you Kirk.
I would of thought 100 quid was reasonable for doing that job. But being a better man you charged him nothing. Your a legend kirk. Fair play to you. Hope the landscaper passed on the good deed. 👍👍
I did a similar repair a while ago, not as meticulous as you, but I found that applying that stuff to the wall was easier using a small scraper than a pointing trowel 🤔
gets more dough in clicks on here, fair play to kirk though, gave me plenty of confidence on jobs i wasnt too sure on, a great teacher, the trade needs men like this to train the bet lot
100 pounds? Even at a minimum of a call out charge @£75x2 visits plus materials, you’d be looking at around £200. Can’t work for pittance in this day and age
Remember you had to see the job, 2 visits, fetch the materials. Then you returned to check it. £100. But well done you did a favour 👍. It will come back to repay you in other ways. I do the same here in Spain, am a retired engineer & get all sorts of small jobs which I charge crazy cheap for, as it is my experience that fixes things. I have so much return work that I just can’t cope with it all 😂
KIRK!! ... That was a Masterclass in getting over a VERY EXPENSIVE Repair .... You could JUST! Have saved the Nation Millions£££'s ... Most DIYers could copy Your Method WITHOUT! having to call in the Experts ... A Very Nice CHUNK Of KARMA😇 Heading Your Way MeThinks 👍🤠
Nice one Kirk , what a diamond you are sir, helping out a fellow tradesman. My old mum use to say what goes round comes round a good deed helps someone out if one day you need a favour from the landscaper he will remember this.
I hope the home owner is clever enough to realise how lucky he is to have a connection to you now and uses you for everything in the future. Especially since the guys who put it up didnt even suggest trying a fix and went straight to £3k
What a gesture kirk, could easily have charged £100-200, considering the time, fuel etc, great to see not everyone is out to make money from everything, hope karma comes your way soon 👌
Brother of tools, I thank you for your experience and communicating it so well. You are also preserving someone's job (very honourable) and exposing weaknesses, and strengths. Excellent teaching. Also, your dissolving fears of 'eco' products, which Iv met some tradesfolk don't touch - they have no idea what they're missing. That mounting the post is on will make damage again :(
Hello Kirk You're the Master Plasterer I've said this before I've followed your progress and plastered myself for money The answer I'd give is not about money, it's more than that it's your time Your repair is perfect as always, however small it is. You have remember you could be on another job for the same about of time earning a full days wage I'd charge a full day here, regardless of the size of the job. You've made two visits and two trips in the van as well
I would just make sure materials are covered and hopefully around £50 would cover them as that materials quite expensive.. it all depends on your relationship with the guy who asked for your help.. the nightmare is it is your time and labour but as a spread myself you feel so guilty charging for it, I have been there and haven't charged.. your a nice guy doing the same
Depends if its a job on the way in or from somewhere.... Also, when this landscape gardner recomends you to all of his customers that is worth these little jobs all day long. Bet he gets loads of walls that need render.
You could have charged for your time, materials and diesel to get there but you didn't. Got the old boy out the sh1t well and truly. You're a top fella 👊
Good man Kirk - `what goes around comes around` always play the long game, doing a favour like that could lead to loads of recommendations and as we all know 9 times out of 10 with a recommendation your pretty much guaranteed to get the work👌
youre a top bloke mate, dont usually comment on things, recently have started getting my foot into the door with plastering and your videos are a blessing 👍
Brutal that the gate post can't come off because of the risk that putting the gate post back on will crack the render. Blimey. And if I was near your area I'd book you for work because of how helpful you are. You do a lot of good.
Hey Kirk Mark the plasterer here . Answer to your question . It's not a huge job and you'll probably get sn amazing name for helping a fellow trade out if it was me I'd charge the price of the krend and get a great name for myself . Cheers bud 😊
Kudos to you Kirk. Hopefully, the landscaper has learned next time: pilot-drill the render and background first; clean every hole properly; resin fix some stud and then pull the timber onto the wall, preferably by hand and not bladder every fixing with an impact. If you use cheap, sub-standard, expanding plugs with inappropriately sized structural screws/coach bolts, they will expand behind the render and pull out of the hole 'dinner-plating' the render just like here. For the original trowels to suggest it all needs to be redone rather than just a patch job is criminal. Rendering before groundworks is asking for trouble anyway imo. Easier to render-proof a driveway than groundwork-proof fresh white render🙄. Ffs couldn't whoever fitted the mail box space it evenly off the wall with some plastic pipe or stainless washers/nuts?
Those other plasterers were mean spirited not to tell anybody what product they used. Nice job and a kind heart, that landscaper must have been delighted.
Question Kirk. Were you happy doing the patching as you did or would it have helped with the post taken back off for you, and a dowel of some some sort shoved in the bolt hole?
Top tip leave it for 1 hour and if you have a gas blow torch go over it with a light flame that will dry it out gradually and give it a scratch after 30 minutes the same day
An honest tradesmans man would charge what it cost not what it is worth. I used to enjoy getting people out of trouble but very few ever returned the favour.
Oi mate good job on that one. I run my own small firm in eastern europe. We do projectile plastering. Dont know why YT decided to show me your work :) Just a quick question, inside plaster that orange stuff you use. What is it? Is it gypsum based?
Question, not criticism: Would it have been worth removing the post to make it easier to fill behind it? You could bolt the post back on while the render is wet to avoid the risk of repeating the problem.
Cost of material (full bag of stucco) and tape plus your hours/travelling..Whatever that works out at is the charge...The fact that you saved the dude 3k is irrelevant. Saludos desde España mi amigo.
As a customer I would be very unhappy with the original company not prepared to come back to repair the damage. As the video shows a very acceptable repair was possible. I had a landscaper who hit a garden building with a concrete post. It damaged the soffit. The builder was happy to come back and swap out and make good. Customers accept accidents happen. They are happy yo pay for making good afterwards. I have render on the house after all external wall insulation was installed (replacing 100 year old rough cast). It seems an unforgiving finish. As it becomes more common there is going to be more work patching and filling after say window replacement, etc.
Oooh, if I were pricing it for someone I didn't like much, definitely hourly wage for a trained plasterer, plus a lump sum for the drive and set up. Material would also be rounded up to an amount that covers wastage. And a premium for short notice.... Would have been alright for a quick Saturday job. 😂
They wouldn't tell him what product they'd used. That's just so disgusting. To be so insecure about your business that you have to try and strongarm money out of people is embarrassing. Beautiful patch work
I think with the supplying of the render , the driving to the job twice probably 3 times with having to look at it previously I’d say £150 would be very fair .
I agree with you on this. Why didn't the original person that did the render, offer to run round and fix it?. I bet they charged enough for the original job. Tight ar5es. Shows what a decent bloke Kirk is, to do it and not even charge.
Depends how far it is, materials depend too if u have leftover bag. Seeing it cost 2 days , or well not 2 full days. Id say its 1 day work combined kinda😂 , 150/250 seems fair. But if its further away might add a bit
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Great work and I think £300 would be a reasonable charge due to repeat visits and the value you saved them. As a potential customer I'd be very happy with 10% of the cost
£500 is easily justified for the quality and experience you bring. Not mentioning the amount he would have had to pay otherwise…
200 i reckon. 2 hours work, save the landscaper, customer happy. Everyone wins
Helping out a fellow tradesman like that was great to see. You didn't have to but you did it anyway. Top pro
Nice job Kirky. £200-250 seems fair to me, but I’m sure the Landscape Guy would happily pay £500, rather than the £3,000 quoted by Monocouche Man.
David (from that there London)
You're a true gentleman and legend Kirk. You got this bloke out of the shit here, and the patch repair turned out great, mate!
Made a cracking job of patching that in. Considering took you 2 trips to complete the work and you needed a bag of material £250-300 would've been very reasonable. Served my time with my old man as well. 40 years later can still hear his voice in the back of my head. You're a top tradesman Kirk, all the best mate
Top bloke! 👍🏻.. Not only giving us free tips and advice from your years of knowledge but helping people get out the s#&t on the way. If only there were more like you. You give me hope!!!.. Good on you Kirk.
I would of thought 100 quid was reasonable for doing that job. But being a better man you charged him nothing. Your a legend kirk. Fair play to you. Hope the landscaper passed on the good deed. 👍👍
100 bucks seems fair, since you need at least to come back the next day to scrap even tho its a few minutes job
I did a similar repair a while ago, not as meticulous as you, but I found that applying that stuff to the wall was easier using a small scraper than a pointing trowel 🤔
gets more dough in clicks on here, fair play to kirk though, gave me plenty of confidence on jobs i wasnt too sure on, a great teacher, the trade needs men like this to train the bet lot
100 pounds? Even at a minimum of a call out charge @£75x2 visits plus materials, you’d be looking at around £200. Can’t work for pittance in this day and age
Remember you had to see the job, 2 visits, fetch the materials. Then you returned to check it. £100.
But well done you did a favour 👍. It will come back to repay you in other ways.
I do the same here in Spain, am a retired engineer & get all sorts of small jobs which I charge crazy cheap for, as it is my experience that fixes things. I have so much return work that I just can’t cope with it all 😂
Kirk is my go to ,I'm a female on my own and I need to learn these things to keep my home in good repair
KIRK!! ... That was a Masterclass in getting over a VERY EXPENSIVE Repair .... You could JUST! Have saved the Nation Millions£££'s ... Most DIYers could copy Your Method WITHOUT! having to call in the Experts ... A Very Nice CHUNK Of KARMA😇 Heading Your Way MeThinks 👍🤠
Looks easy but they won't have his experience so they got no chance
Exactly the person you’d want working on your house, knowledgable, professional, tidy and a top bloke - keep up the smooth work 👍
What a guy helping the landscaper out . Great job as you always do
Absolute legend. Cannot thank you enough for being the guy you are. The trades need more people who are in it for the love and passion. 👏
Nice one Kirk , what a diamond you are sir, helping out a fellow tradesman. My old mum use to say what goes round comes round a good deed helps someone out if one day you need a favour from the landscaper he will remember this.
What a good bloke you are!! Love watching your videos, your a real role model as a tradesman .
We need more people like you in this world. Top man! 👍🏾
That was an impressive patching job.
Very nicely done Kirk.
Knowing you Kirk you probably only charged for materials. You really are a hero.😊
That’s really good, I’ve done quite a few mono and silicone repairs in my time, there both difficult to blend completely.
I hope the home owner is clever enough to realise how lucky he is to have a connection to you now and uses you for everything in the future.
Especially since the guys who put it up didnt even suggest trying a fix and went straight to £3k
So kind of you to do that and sharing your knowledge by videoing it. You’re a very generous guy, thank you Kirk.
Beautiful job, perfect match! Every time I watch your channel Kirk, my faith in humanity is restored. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Top work always, that guy won’t forget it either. Reputation is king
Awesome work Kirk you never fail.
Top man.
What a gesture kirk, could easily have charged £100-200, considering the time, fuel etc, great to see not everyone is out to make money from everything, hope karma comes your way soon 👌
Brother of tools, I thank you for your experience and communicating it so well. You are also preserving someone's job (very honourable) and exposing weaknesses, and strengths. Excellent teaching. Also, your dissolving fears of 'eco' products, which Iv met some tradesfolk don't touch - they have no idea what they're missing.
That mounting the post is on will make damage again :(
Hello Kirk
You're the Master Plasterer
I've said this before
I've followed your progress and plastered myself for money
The answer I'd give is not about money, it's more than that it's your time
Your repair is perfect as always, however small it is. You have remember you could be on another job for the same about of time earning a full days wage
I'd charge a full day here, regardless of the size of the job. You've made two visits and two trips in the van as well
I would just make sure materials are covered and hopefully around £50 would cover them as that materials quite expensive.. it all depends on your relationship with the guy who asked for your help.. the nightmare is it is your time and labour but as a spread myself you feel so guilty charging for it, I have been there and haven't charged.. your a nice guy doing the same
You're a true gent mate. I did a job for someone and they wanted to pay me for it. I refused and said the fact they'd thanked me was payment enough.
Depends if its a job on the way in or from somewhere.... Also, when this landscape gardner recomends you to all of his customers that is worth these little jobs all day long. Bet he gets loads of walls that need render.
You could have charged for your time, materials and diesel to get there but you didn't. Got the old boy out the sh1t well and truly. You're a top fella 👊
In terms of cost, forget the 3k, that's here nor there, it's for your time, I would charge 150 per visit, excellent patch up job btw
I agree £150 per visit is fair 👍
Wow, that is an absolutely unbelievable patch mate, you would never know anything had happened! Pure skill and experience that.
As always Kirk excellent job lucky landscaper you deserve a few beers.
This made my day, you are a true gent
I recon you’ll be getting your garden landscaped in the near future. Nice one mate.
Good man Kirk - `what goes around comes around` always play the long game, doing a favour like that could lead to loads of recommendations and as we all know 9 times out of 10 with a recommendation your pretty much guaranteed to get the work👌
youre a top bloke mate, dont usually comment on things, recently have started getting my foot into the door with plastering and your videos are a blessing 👍
I think that's pretty bad of original renderers to not tell the customer what product they used on their property
they wanted a quick 3 grand
Looks great Kirk, well done mate, such a nice thing to do.
Brutal that the gate post can't come off because of the risk that putting the gate post back on will crack the render.
Blimey.
And if I was near your area I'd book you for work because of how helpful you are. You do a lot of good.
If its that shoddily fitted the first time the gate slams in the wind the render will blow anyway.
A great job, and a cracking bloke. 👍
Hey Kirk Mark the plasterer here .
Answer to your question .
It's not a huge job and you'll probably get sn amazing name for helping a fellow trade out if it was me I'd charge the price of the krend and get a great name for myself .
Cheers bud 😊
Pulled him right out of the shit there, I think he probably loves you now! Excellent job very well done 👏
Unreal mate. 🤌🤌🤌
Brilliant result that Kirk!
Would love to see more future videos using Ecorender products...
Fairplay Kirk....That was a kind gesture.
Great job! Plus to gove it at that price (no spoilers). Hats off to you. You will get something in mind someday when you need it.
What a gent, well done you👏🏻
Top job Kirk!
Top man with your good deed 👍
Genius ! No two words about it
Great work and attention to detail mate. 👍🏻
Great work and way to go paying it forward 👍🏼
You've got a heart of gold kirk, the guy must be over the moon 👍👍
❌ plastic surgeon
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Kudos to you Kirk. Hopefully, the landscaper has learned next time: pilot-drill the render and background first; clean every hole properly; resin fix some stud and then pull the timber onto the wall, preferably by hand and not bladder every fixing with an impact.
If you use cheap, sub-standard, expanding plugs with inappropriately sized structural screws/coach bolts, they will expand behind the render and pull out of the hole 'dinner-plating' the render just like here.
For the original trowels to suggest it all needs to be redone rather than just a patch job is criminal.
Rendering before groundworks is asking for trouble anyway imo. Easier to render-proof a driveway than groundwork-proof fresh white render🙄.
Ffs couldn't whoever fitted the mail box space it evenly off the wall with some plastic pipe or stainless washers/nuts?
Those other plasterers were mean spirited not to tell anybody what product they used. Nice job and a kind heart, that landscaper must have been delighted.
Fair play Kirk. Life saver 😊
Great job Kirk 👍
Ah, you’re a good egg Kirk! Cracking job too pal.
i knew you'd do that! the world needs more people like you!
What brand of tape is that please? And another cracking job you are a true professional and a gentleman 👏
£120 for something like this i would say. I usually leave the tape on while scratching back.
Great job
top man loving the content Kirk
In australia we have trouble taking gift or charity work. The work around is a 24 pack of beer.
The carton gets you places here
What a gent you are Kirk.
A rarity in some tradespersons, but you are great.
$250. Amazing, your work is fantastic.
Question Kirk. Were you happy doing the patching as you did or would it have helped with the post taken back off for you, and a dowel of some some sort shoved in the bolt hole?
👍What goes around comes around.
Top tip leave it for 1 hour and if you have a gas blow torch go over it with a light flame that will dry it out gradually and give it a scratch after 30 minutes the same day
yes that works use a blow torch a very light flame to dry it out take your time when doing this
Fantastic guy! fixing that patch worth £150 all day long, knowledge and your skill is price less.
Good video. A fair amount will be whatever your daily rate is times 1.2 (assuming the return visit is a quick one).
Good on you its not all about the money
Yes it is😂
An honest tradesmans man would charge what it cost not what it is worth. I used to enjoy getting people out of trouble but very few ever returned the favour.
Oi mate good job on that one. I run my own small firm in eastern europe. We do projectile plastering. Dont know why YT decided to show me your work :) Just a quick question, inside plaster that orange stuff you use. What is it? Is it gypsum based?
Yes it's gypsum based mate, lovely stuff to use.
Google "thistle board finish"
Best finishing plaster in the world in my opinion
Question, not criticism:
Would it have been worth removing the post to make it easier to fill behind it? You could bolt the post back on while the render is wet to avoid the risk of repeating the problem.
Great job, you're definitely a good man..
Cost of material (full bag of stucco) and tape plus your hours/travelling..Whatever that works out at is the charge...The fact that you saved the dude 3k is irrelevant. Saludos desde España mi amigo.
Well done kirk👏
As a customer I would be very unhappy with the original company not prepared to come back to repair the damage. As the video shows a very acceptable repair was possible. I had a landscaper who hit a garden building with a concrete post. It damaged the soffit. The builder was happy to come back and swap out and make good. Customers accept accidents happen. They are happy yo pay for making good afterwards.
I have render on the house after all external wall insulation was installed (replacing 100 year old rough cast). It seems an unforgiving finish. As it becomes more common there is going to be more work patching and filling after say window replacement, etc.
Lovely neat work! I'm surprised you didn't use SBR to prime instead of water?
Where the patch joins on the surface would show the sbr mate
Well done mate. Nightmare to patch that stuff. Top bloke not charging him
Oooh, if I were pricing it for someone I didn't like much, definitely hourly wage for a trained plasterer, plus a lump sum for the drive and set up. Material would also be rounded up to an amount that covers wastage. And a premium for short notice.... Would have been alright for a quick Saturday job. 😂
Well done kirk
Class that bud love ya content can’t believe a missed your giver way yesterday on the brushes how do you turn the notifications on lol 😂
Good lad fair play. Shocking not letting the owners know the colour.
Could they request a copy of the bill of materials legally I wonder?
About 30 quid, you’ll get rewarded ten times over. Good for you pal. Not many of us left .
What a guy, Thats definatly worth a beer or two.
Well done lads,the landscaper will give your name to everyone 👍
They wouldn't tell him what product they'd used. That's just so disgusting. To be so insecure about your business that you have to try and strongarm money out of people is embarrassing.
Beautiful patch work
Incredible skill .
I think with the supplying of the render , the driving to the job twice probably 3 times with having to look at it previously I’d say £150 would be very fair .
What a guy! You’ll have made his day, I bet he’ll sleep well after that
People get too mean. Things like that happen. You'd have to be a real bastard to insist on on redoing the whole wall.
I agree with you on this. Why didn't the original person that did the render, offer to run round and fix it?. I bet they charged enough for the original job. Tight ar5es. Shows what a decent bloke Kirk is, to do it and not even charge.
Youd need to know it was patched to see it. Class work Kirk
Great video 😊❤
When Alexander Bell invented the telephone, he had 3 missed calls from Kirk Johnstone.
Proper plasterer still in shorts 🔥🔥🔥
Diamond 💎 Geeza!
£160 . I always thought you couldn’t patch that . Very handy to know
Depends how far it is, materials depend too if u have leftover bag. Seeing it cost 2 days , or well not 2 full days. Id say its 1 day work combined kinda😂 , 150/250 seems fair. But if its further away might add a bit