what am i listening. Angel is better than Caitlin , Paige is better than Caitlin, Hailey is better than Caitlin. Everyone seems to be better than Caitlin ...but Caitlin is the one who is setting and breaking records..
This is certified crazy, damn, did he not see the 3s CC hit on HVL face at ELITE 4 THIS VERY YEAR? HLV WAS WHAT?Heck FIBA took Caitlin over Paige at the high school level, what the hell is HVL? Hoops is just on CC reports for clicks without context, Ben Daniel reviews this joke of a take
Oh yeah, Haley was averaging ppg just like Clark . Clark only scored 26.6/27.0/27.8/31.6 per game . That is exactly like Haley's 11.2/14.4/19.7/11.6 per game
This is certified crazy, damn, did he not see the 3s CC hit on HVL face at ELITE 4 THIS VERY YEAR? HLV WAS WHAT?Heck FIBA took Caitlin over Paige at the high school level, what the hell is HVL? Hoops is just on CC reports for clicks without context, Ben Daniel reviews this joke of a take
as a lsu fan, hailey coming to our team ruined her career as of RN. if she was truly ring chasin, dat might been the worse decision of her life😭😭im prayin for her
Coach screwed her over, the plan was to add her as a perimeter scorer because they were missing that the year before and then coach just forced her to be a facilitator instead of a scorer at all. There were never any plays ran for hers, barely any PNR’s even. She’ll bounce back this year, I don’t believe she’ll ever get the hype she had back at Louisville but she can get some of it back.
Not everyone was meant to play in the WNBA, nothing against her as a person. I personally had to make many hard decisions in life when I just wasn’t good enough to continue a certain path. Wish the best for her next life decision if it’s not basketball.
This is certified crazy, damn, did he not see the 3s CC hit on HVL face at ELITE 4 THIS VERY YEAR? HLV WAS WHAT?Heck FIBA took Caitlin over Paige at the high school level, what the hell is HVL? Hoops is just on CC reports for clicks without context, Ben Daniel reviews this joke of a take
😂 Haley: 2× First-team All-ACC (2022, 2023) ACC All-Freshman Team (2021) McDonald's All-American (2020) Washington Ms. Basketball (2020) FIBA 3x3 Under-18 World Cup MVP (2019) Clark: 2× AP Player of the Year (2023, 2024) 2× Honda-Broderick Cup (2023, 2024) 2× Honda Sports Award (2023, 2024) 2× James E. Sullivan Award (2023, 2024) 2× John R. Wooden Award (2023, 2024) 2× Naismith College Player of the Year (2023, 2024) 2× USBWA National Player of the Year (2023, 2024) 2× Wade Trophy (2023, 2024) 3× Unanimous first-team All-American (2022-2024) 4× First-team All-American - USBWA (2021-2024) 3× First-team All-American - AP (2022-2024) 4× WBCA Coaches' All-American (2021-2024) Second-team All-American - AP (2021) 2× Women's Basketball Academic All-American of the Year (2023, 2024) Division I Academic All-American of the Year (2023) 3× First-team Academic All-America (2022-2024) 3× Nancy Lieberman Award (2022-2024) 3× Dawn Staley Award (2021-2023) 2× Big Ten Female Athlete of the Year (2023, 2024) 3× Big Ten Player of the Year (2022-2024) 3× Big Ten tournament MOP (2022-2024) 4× First-team All-Big Ten (2021-2024) USBWA National Co-Freshman of the Year (2021) WBCA Co-Freshman of the Year (2021) Big Ten Freshman of the Year (2021) Big Ten All-Freshman Team (2021) 3× NCAA season scoring leader (2021, 2022, 2024) 3× NCAA season assists leader (2022-2024) NCAA Division I all-time scoring leader No. 22 retired by Iowa Hawkeyes McDonald's All-American (2020) Iowa Miss Basketball (2020) FIBA Under-19 World Cup MVP (2021)
@@Ravenfanatic5 Deja vu with TCU again with NO support at all from better players to play around and blame others. Her DAD is so bad with his interference in her bb business...
This right here is exactly what is true. She forced her to be a facilitator instead of her true play style a scorer. Then forced her to be their lead defender when that’s never been her strong suit. Like she had Flajue who is one of the most athletic woman hoopers I’ve seen in a long time guarding spot up shooters lol I truly believe she’s not a great coach, just a coach that got a great opportunity to coach great players.
@@boat2x they probably still would have won but im glad hvl was on her we got a caitlin masterclass bc of it lmfao. it's funny how mulkey in the postgame presser was like no one seems to be able to guard her like no ma'am you just put a sick 5'8 girl on her and let her cook the whole game 😭
I live in Louisville. My wife is a diehard fan of UofL. I'm a Kentucky fan. We both love women's basketball. HVL was an absolute hero here to the fans. When she entered the portal, it was such a shock. I followed her closely at LSU and was shocked at the change for the worse. It was obviously a terrible decision, but I still have high hopes for her. One bad decision in her 20's should not destroy her career. She wanted to play the One position so bad. Which I think was a driving factor. She needs to allow herself to be that scoring guard before we try finding a team that fits her. I wish her well at TCU and in next year's WNBA draft.
Some say C.C. never won a national championship, like Breanna Stewart.. Forget that C.C. won 3 Big Ten Tournaments in a row! With 2 diff. Centers Cinzano and Stoulke!
This explains a lot - here's the talent Clark had to work with vs who Stewart had at UConn - makes you wonder what their teams' results would be if they magically swapped college circumstances: Clark's teammates at Iowa (not including Clark's rating/ranking, which was 5-star, ranked #4 in her class), from freshman to senior yrs: 1 4-star; class ranking (for those ranked in top 100): #84 3 4-stars (only 1 started); #71, 84, 92 3 4-stars (only 1 started); #45, 84, 92 4 4-stars (only 1 started); #45, 71, 89, 92; 1 plays in the WNBA Stewart's teammates at UConn during her 4 yrs of winning titles (not including Stewart's rating/ranking, which was 5-star, ranked #1): 7 5-stars, 3 4-stars; #1, 2, 6, 10, 14, 24, 31, 34, 39, 42; 7 went on to play in the WNBA 4 5-stars, 4 4-stars; #1, 1, 2, 14, 24, 39, 42, 75; 8 went on to play in the WNBA 7 5-stars, 2 4-stars; #1, 1, 2, 6, 14, 31, 33, 42, 75; 8 went on to play in the WNBA 8 5-stars, 2 4-stars; #1, 1, 2, 6, 6, 14, 31, 33, 75; 8 went on to play in the WNBA
@@jameslaughter5183 Yeah she conveniently sweeps under the rug exactly how big a recruiting factory UConn was, and still is, while somehow still taking a couple of potshots at Clark in past months.
Bro, wtf a collegiate ring? she got fiba rings, she beat every real team including sc and owned the dawn staley award till she left against staley's own wishes lol,
the coach in the 2019 fiba u19 decided that clark should ride the bench behind rhyne howard and caitlin while being a very supportive teammate, she didn't forget ... 2021 iowa takes out kentucky (howard) in ncaa tournament with clark outscoring them in the first half, a couple months later clark wins mvp in fiba u19 and a couple years later goes for a 40pt triple double against the coach / louisville to go to the final four
High school recruiting platforms are not perfect. Talent will show itself for what it is eventually in time. The media they even get it wrong coming out of college too and rate other players higher than better players Michael Jordan was the #3 pick in the NBA draft. Kobe Bryant was the #13 pick in his NBA Draft. Patrick Mahomes was rated a 3 star high school football recruit coming out of HS, and is now the best football player in the world. The list goes on and on Just because someone assigns value to you, doesn’t mean anything. They can’t project out how a player will turn out.
Hailey is just one of those players that maxed out in high school. It happens. She is too small and not quick enough to compensate. She will probably play pro in Europe in the future.
It’s still a shame they gave co-rookie of the year to Paige buckets and CC. CC came out and lead the NCAA in points per game as a freshman. And still had to split ROY with a player who was supposed to out perform her but didn’t?
Clark got royally screwed over her freshman year a lot worse than this: Bueckers was also national player of the year, while Clark didn't even get 1st team All-American - not saying Clark should've gotten ntl POY, but at least she had an argument, but certainly she deserved 1st team AA over at least 2 of them who were.
@@darchon5wow! Incredible I didn’t know that!! It’s amazing how that’s even possible, CC wins in the end. She got the Nike deal and all the praise in the end! It the end it doesn’t matter who wants to snub her or downplay her greatness.
@@TrojanFan-id5pc Yeah dude, it's incredible that Clark could be somewhat disrespected like that her freshman yr after not only leading the nation in scoring, but she was also 2nd in assists (the only yr she didn't lead the nation in assists at Iowa, btw). Yes, she got 2nd team AA and co-ROTY, but again, if you see who actually got 1st team AA over her, it's kind of a joke. And imho, co-ROTY was a cop-out, consolation prize. But in a way, I get it, it's lil ole Iowa vs UConn and the media at least some of which seem to be biased towards them.
@@darchon5 i still don't think paige deserved NPOY as a freshman. she's always been great but she was on an elite team and caitlin comparatively had arguably better stats. i don't think caitlin deserved it either necessarily and she didn't make a final four like paige but it's just funny looking back. the UConn mob ties are tight. people still say that paige is better than her like paige has even gotten a chance to prove that. caitlin going to Iowa is one of the best decisions ever in hindsight but early on it didn't do her a lot of favors and i still think it bothers people within the organization
@@darchon5 totally agree 100 percent! Man you’re so right. They put themselves in a corner maybe because they promoted Paige as the savior of women’s basketball. They would have looked dumb if they admitted they were so wrong by pushing Paige instead of Clark so they had to stick to their guns maybe. What a tragedy. Poor CC.
I think a few of the commenters have the reason for her leaving Louisville arse-about-face. She saw her future as a point guard and the Louisville coach was smart enough to know that she wasn't cut out for it. So it wasn't the LSU coach wanting her to play as point guard, it was HVL demanding the role as she saw that as her future in the WNBA - and getting a ring too. And we all saw how that worked out. Perhaps Jeff Walz knows his onions after all?
Let’s address the elephant in the room. She was clearly slow against Clark and probably needs to lose a few pounds. Maybe the fried diet at all these southern schools has effected her game?
Dude, HVL college stats are 14.4 / 3.9 / 2.8 (pts / rbds / ast while Clark was 28.4 / 7.1 / 8.2 Caitlin is LITERALLY 2 HVL's in college while only taking up a single spot on the roster.
Hailey van lith was averaging 20 points a game as the number 1 option on a “not as talented” roster. When she went to LSU there were 3 players more talented than her offensively so she became the 4th scoring option
HVL has always been a shooting guard, CC has always been a point guard. Hailey transferred to LSU because the coach at Louisville was not going to try to develop her as a point guard. Coach Mulkey was getting high on her own supply, and believed she could transform a 2 to 1, in one season, in a high-pressure, expected to repeat situation. It exposed Mulkey and showed HVL needs another year to maybe develop some PG skills.
Caitlin was the 4th ranked person coming out of high school. Bueckers was No. 1. Hailey Van Lith was No. 7. Hailey father who comes across as a domineering father. At Louisville she had the ball in her hands most of the time. Great mid range game and could hit the 3. At LSU she was a off guard a lot and not the facilitator. She has to get back to running the show. Also CC ended Lith's last two years with 41 point games in each.
Caitlin broke her in the Louisville game when she said "You're down 20 points, shut up." She was a very good player until that game. And since she's been a shell of the player she was. I hope she turns it around this year but it's going to be tough.
My sister went to Louisville and I remember going to watch one of the WBB games and Hailey was alright but was overshadowed by her own teammate. I’ve never see that happen to CC
@@justindoud251 no one on the iowa team ever came close to the offensive production caitlin had. she had help and there was a lot of talent mainly stuelke but stuelke avg 15 points this year as a big
In a matchup: Caitlin Clark: Height 6′ 0″, Weight 154 lbs. Hailey van Lith: Height 5′ 9″, Weight 155 lbs. Clark is 3” taller, HvL is 3” shorter, one of the reasons why she could not guard CC.
Also, CC begins and releases her shots much higher on her frame than does HVL. So, because of height and shot style it's easier to block an HVL shot than a CC shot.
0:18 lol nah she was already slipping by freshman year bc she was trying to be an elite pg . Van lith was a 2 guard and Caitlin was a 1 guard behind Paige. Caitlin can’t come off the bench and get into rhythm. The coach for that team was her dumb Louisville coach. I hated him that year watching the cup. And I loved watching Caitlin cook them both.
And he claims he knows ball yet he can’t even get the colleges right lol. You would think he could get Clark’s college right since he talks about her every day making 10 videos a day
@@MickTalksHoops for the amount you talk about Caitlin you shouldn’t have messed that up since you talk about her 24/7. It’s also very clickbait as usual saying HVL is better than Clark in your thumbnail
@@Wnbafan9956 Spot on. To Mick, it's really not gonna hurt just to say 'my bad' and move on instead of getting defensive about it. And yes, it's absolutely a clickbait title because it was never really true: HVL was ranked #7 in her HS class, Clark was #4 in the same class [edit: this is per ESPN's HS rankings, one of the most reputable out there], and then we know how it went for them in college.
@@darchon5 he always gets defensive lol it’s funny. He also always clickbait’s big time it’s his thing but messing up the colleges was pretty funny idk how you mess that up
Hailey never drew the defensive coverage that Caitlin confronts every game. Caitlin has to deal with double coverage on every play. Watch Hailey and she seldom drew more than one defender .
I actually get this. Van Lith is like Kelsey Mitchell, who is an impressive ball handler, driver, and scorer. That fast twitch muscle drive is marvelous. You watch highlights of driving to the basket for the Fever, Kelsey Mitchell will take on four defenders and somehow score; whereas, CC looks slow and methodical in comparison (yet still can score, which is impressive in it own way since she rarely fails to score when she does decide to drive). Still, between them, Kelsey is a sight to see when it comes to driving between defenders to score. So, the eye test is immediately in favor of Kelsey (and by extension, Van Lith). She fits into a common slot for a team, the Scorer. Yet, as you watch, you realize that playing guard requires more than an ability to drive into the paint and get a layup at will, that passing and outside shooting are just as important, though less glamorous than driving past your defender and, so, out-pacing the competition. This is where CC tends to shine. So, I can see Van Lith being overestimated because she can take an opponent one on one and generally score. It is a fact that CC is anomalous, she appears slower, less athletic (just watch Kelsey's dribble versus CC's, the former seems to bounce the ball twice for each time CC bounces it), yet she can generally do it all. Despite appearing slower, the ball is rarely stolen from CC and she can wrong foot a defender and blow past her to the basket. If I were a coach, I would be impressed by CC's skills but I might not know how to incorporate her into a team. Luckily, the Iowa coach realized making CC the foundation of the team and building around her skills was best and, so, CC became a star. She wanted to go to Connecticut, where she would be forced to be a system player rather than the focus of the team. She was turned down and went to Iowa instead, where, as the focus of the team, she broke several NCAA records. Such is fate.
Bull Shit !!! Have you even looked at the Freshman stats: FG% - .429 to .472, TRB - 5.2 to 5.9, AST - 2.1 to 7.1, STL - 1.2 to 1.3, BLK - .2 to .5, PTS - 11.2 to 26.6. Tell me which players belongs to which Freshman stats. Now tell me which player SHOWED more promise. So what went wrong? Maybe it was a lower starting skill level. At no time was it expected van Lith might become the All Time Leading D1 Scorer or that van Lith might become third All Time D1 in Assists or that van Lith would be on the leader board for Triple Doubles. A video like this does not help your credibility.
HVL will be fine. Mark it. If she ends up not making the wnba, she'll be playing for team USA 3x3 like you said. She transitioned into a SG role and it didn't work out. Mulkey didn't know how to play her. She'll be a killer at TCU. Edit; me watching the last few minutes, you really put it in proper perspective. Hope she finds a role in the league despite her lack of height. 3x3 really does fit her so well though and I'm okay with that
People always hating on Caitlin Clark defense but all the women that she goes up against never score Haley and Raven Johnson didn't but I do hope Haley gets drafted by Indiana this year
I’d like to point out that the ROTY for the nba was Larry Bird even tho Magic Johnson and the LALakers won the championship that year . There should be no debate over who is the front runner. Clark’s only weak part is her defense and it not even that bad . Show me highlights of Angel Reese dribbling and passing . Also Larry Legend improved the Celtic wins by 40 games his rookie year . Clark has definitely improved the Fever . Stop seeing color and watch the gameplay
Bro you need to stop with these first it was Paige was better than Clark and now Haley is was better than Clark. SMH😂 and I really like Haley, I felt like she should have stayed at Louisville. TCU might allow her to play her game
Bro, even you're over hyping how good she was at Louisville.. You're blowing how good she was ,WAY outta proportion. Even her teammates couldn't stand her because she was a 'Gotta Get Mine' ball hog the entire time she was there. Nearly EVERYONE hated playing with her, and she could NEVER defend, and her teammates at Louisville knew it. But she took it as, that's someone else's job, I the Star & The Scorer
She was good at Louisville. I went to all the home games her last year and some open runs she showed up at. Idk what happened to her when she left. But she wasn't the same.
Basketball game is a sports using skills with a lot of teamwork and should develop camaraderie . Instead of jealousy it's should turn to healthy competition..
It helps that all these women are beautiful. Angel Catilin Cameron Paige Sophie Lexi Gabie Kate and Hailey. If they weren’t playing basketball they are smart educated young women. They will be successful in life without basketball.
Every player is better than Caitlin Clark -- according to you. Nylassa Boston is the GOAT anyway, so who cares about the rest. HVL was too short and not good enough to be better than her. She literally was just starting over her because her FATHER was involved in the coaching process and put her over Clark. HVL was unfortunately a SG that never developed PG tendencies and that hurt her greatly when she failed to get the SG build and frame of current players/ peers. Secondly, ACC wasn't as strong of a conference as Caitlin's conference. Paige and HVL both played in weaker conferences, and therefore never had to overcome adversity. That's why they aren't "Caitlin Clark" and will hardly have the same impact. Clark was a PG from her career, and remained being a dominant player throughout her career. Paige has to prove she's going to be a good PG in the WNBA level to really have success since she's a smaller sized SG at this point. Paige won't even get minutes at PG this year, so she'll play the 2/3 some more and then in the WNBA will be overpowered by bigger players in the league. HVL will be fine as a backup PG--given that she at least can do professional aspects: 3 vs 3 level. Like a Sims type player. Paige isn't going to be that and you gotta stop hyping her up since she's only gotten 14 assists 1 time in her career--and that was her freshman year. She's literally failed to get more than 10 assists for the last 3 years, basically. She's just not that player. Too injured, too weak for the pro levels.
HVL just needs to lock it back in focus on Bball and block out all the other stuff.. she became social media famous and played into that a little and that probably hurt the grind but like I said there’s time. She has another fresh start and if she’s relocked and ready to grind she will be back
if go for the draft on 2025 Paige Buecker and her will be after the No.1 draft She and Paige Buecker cannot be better than CC , they need to break 3951 points and the assist records CC made for 4 years not 5 years during their NCAA days
I don't like seeing a nice kid like hvl get abused. Thumbs down man. Hailey was not supposed to be better than cc3 and she was never regarded as that so stop it. If you knew basketball you know 6 foot tall Clark ruled over 5 ft 7 hvl. Connecticut's own Geno auriema recruited cc3 that's how good she was coming out of high school he did not recruit Hailey.
There are some YT vids from a few years ago of the best HS girls in the country. There was a lot of coverage of Paige, Cam and Haley. Haley was a beast. Not quite as good a Paige but damn good. Cam was a little klutzy back then but HVL looked good at that time.
van Lith has no backbone or work ethic. Clark went to iowa became a leader with a great work ethic. Where as Van lith has spent her entire college career trying to latch on to better player and then bolts to a new school right after
what am i listening. Angel is better than Caitlin , Paige is better than Caitlin, Hailey is better than Caitlin. Everyone seems to be better than Caitlin ...but Caitlin is the one who is setting and breaking records..
This is certified crazy, damn, did he not see the 3s CC hit on HVL face at ELITE 4 THIS VERY YEAR? HLV WAS WHAT?Heck FIBA took Caitlin over Paige at the high school level, what the hell is HVL? Hoops is just on CC reports for clicks without context, Ben Daniel reviews this joke of a take
Can't disagree to that cc is the goat
Anyone that thinks Haley Van Lith was better than Clark never actually watched either play
he never said better, he said she had as much or more hype than clark coming out of high school
@@boat2xdid you skip the title of the video?
les not act like he dont he clickbait crazy
He is the clickbait king.
@@boat2xI agree she had a lot of hype early on. Caitlin is so dang fun to watch.
Oh yeah, Haley was averaging ppg just like Clark . Clark only scored 26.6/27.0/27.8/31.6 per game . That is exactly like Haley's 11.2/14.4/19.7/11.6 per game
CC could take little ole Iowa to the finals twice. Van Lith chased the big schools for success.
Louisville is a big school
This is certified crazy, damn, did he not see the 3s CC hit on HVL face at ELITE 4 THIS VERY YEAR? HLV WAS WHAT?Heck FIBA took Caitlin over Paige at the high school level, what the hell is HVL? Hoops is just on CC reports for clicks without context, Ben Daniel reviews this joke of a take
as a lsu fan, hailey coming to our team ruined her career as of RN. if she was truly ring chasin, dat might been the worse decision of her life😭😭im prayin for her
She’ll be fine
Coach screwed her over, the plan was to add her as a perimeter scorer because they were missing that the year before and then coach just forced her to be a facilitator instead of a scorer at all. There were never any plays ran for hers, barely any PNR’s even. She’ll bounce back this year, I don’t believe she’ll ever get the hype she had back at Louisville but she can get some of it back.
Not everyone was meant to play in the WNBA, nothing against her as a person. I personally had to make many hard decisions in life when I just wasn’t good enough to continue a certain path. Wish the best for her next life decision if it’s not basketball.
This is certified crazy, damn, did he not see the 3s CC hit on HVL face at ELITE 4 THIS VERY YEAR? HLV WAS WHAT?Heck FIBA took Caitlin over Paige at the high school level, what the hell is HVL? Hoops is just on CC reports for clicks without context, Ben Daniel reviews this joke of a take
Again, wake me up when CC is actually playing again. Lol.
😂😂😂
amen
YES ME TOO-
Haley got smoked by Caitin in LSU's defeat in the playoffs.
Exactly!!! Way to slow for CC.
Clark destroyed HVL, she'll never be the same. Becker will never be on the level of Clark. 😮
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😂 Haley:
2× First-team All-ACC (2022, 2023)
ACC All-Freshman Team (2021)
McDonald's All-American (2020)
Washington Ms. Basketball (2020)
FIBA 3x3 Under-18 World Cup MVP (2019)
Clark:
2× AP Player of the Year (2023, 2024)
2× Honda-Broderick Cup (2023, 2024)
2× Honda Sports Award (2023, 2024)
2× James E. Sullivan Award (2023, 2024)
2× John R. Wooden Award (2023, 2024)
2× Naismith College Player of the Year (2023, 2024)
2× USBWA National Player of the Year (2023, 2024)
2× Wade Trophy (2023, 2024)
3× Unanimous first-team All-American (2022-2024)
4× First-team All-American - USBWA (2021-2024)
3× First-team All-American - AP (2022-2024)
4× WBCA Coaches' All-American (2021-2024)
Second-team All-American - AP (2021)
2× Women's Basketball Academic All-American of the Year (2023, 2024)
Division I Academic All-American of the Year (2023)
3× First-team Academic All-America (2022-2024)
3× Nancy Lieberman Award (2022-2024)
3× Dawn Staley Award (2021-2023)
2× Big Ten Female Athlete of the Year (2023, 2024)
3× Big Ten Player of the Year (2022-2024)
3× Big Ten tournament MOP (2022-2024)
4× First-team All-Big Ten (2021-2024)
USBWA National Co-Freshman of the Year (2021)
WBCA Co-Freshman of the Year (2021)
Big Ten Freshman of the Year (2021)
Big Ten All-Freshman Team (2021)
3× NCAA season scoring leader (2021, 2022, 2024)
3× NCAA season assists leader (2022-2024)
NCAA Division I all-time scoring leader
No. 22 retired by Iowa Hawkeyes
McDonald's All-American (2020)
Iowa Miss Basketball (2020)
FIBA Under-19 World Cup MVP (2021)
he never said better, he said she had as much or more hype than clark coming out of high school. lock in twin😭
@@boat2x the title of the video says she was better.
Very impressive!
@@jaimefish173 he be clickbaitin crazy, les be real here
@@boat2x
Stfu. Did you not read the title?
Caitlin burnt her when they played against each other
Caitlin lit HVL up.
She should have stayed at Louisville
Considering what happened at LSU, I agree
@@Ravenfanatic5 Deja vu with TCU again with NO support at all from better players to play around and blame others. Her DAD is so bad with his interference in her bb business...
@@philipmtran05 she's gonna have to address that issue with her dad
In the NCAA game between Louisville & Iowa she scored 27 against 41 points by CC with Iowa won the game
Kim Mulkey totally ruined her. Left her out to dry against CC, and protected the other players like Flau'jae from looking bad.
This right here is exactly what is true. She forced her to be a facilitator instead of her true play style a scorer. Then forced her to be their lead defender when that’s never been her strong suit. Like she had Flajue who is one of the most athletic woman hoopers I’ve seen in a long time guarding spot up shooters lol I truly believe she’s not a great coach, just a coach that got a great opportunity to coach great players.
im a clark fan but the few times flaujae was on her she either passed it or missed
I’m a Caitlin and Flau’jae fan and I’m very happy she didn’t guard her lol😂
@@boat2x they probably still would have won but im glad hvl was on her we got a caitlin masterclass bc of it lmfao. it's funny how mulkey in the postgame presser was like no one seems to be able to guard her like no ma'am you just put a sick 5'8 girl on her and let her cook the whole game 😭
@SW-lx3lu Clark was gassed and Flaujua was fresh. Everything being equal she couldn't gaurd her
CC Beat South Carolina, LSU and UConn in two years… thank you very much
Don't you mean Iowa beat those teams
I live in Louisville. My wife is a diehard fan of UofL. I'm a Kentucky fan. We both love women's basketball. HVL was an absolute hero here to the fans. When she entered the portal, it was such a shock. I followed her closely at LSU and was shocked at the change for the worse. It was obviously a terrible decision, but I still have high hopes for her. One bad decision in her 20's should not destroy her career. She wanted to play the One position so bad. Which I think was a driving factor. She needs to allow herself to be that scoring guard before we try finding a team that fits her. I wish her well at TCU and in next year's WNBA draft.
Some say C.C. never won a national championship, like Breanna Stewart.. Forget that C.C. won 3 Big Ten Tournaments in a row! With 2 diff. Centers Cinzano and Stoulke!
This explains a lot - here's the talent Clark had to work with vs who Stewart had at UConn - makes you wonder what their teams' results would be if they magically swapped college circumstances:
Clark's teammates at Iowa (not including Clark's rating/ranking, which was 5-star, ranked #4 in her class), from freshman to senior yrs:
1 4-star; class ranking (for those ranked in top 100): #84
3 4-stars (only 1 started); #71, 84, 92
3 4-stars (only 1 started); #45, 84, 92
4 4-stars (only 1 started); #45, 71, 89, 92; 1 plays in the WNBA
Stewart's teammates at UConn during her 4 yrs of winning titles (not including Stewart's rating/ranking, which was 5-star, ranked #1):
7 5-stars, 3 4-stars; #1, 2, 6, 10, 14, 24, 31, 34, 39, 42; 7 went on to play in the WNBA
4 5-stars, 4 4-stars; #1, 1, 2, 14, 24, 39, 42, 75; 8 went on to play in the WNBA
7 5-stars, 2 4-stars; #1, 1, 2, 6, 14, 31, 33, 42, 75; 8 went on to play in the WNBA
8 5-stars, 2 4-stars; #1, 1, 2, 6, 6, 14, 31, 33, 75; 8 went on to play in the WNBA
@@darchon5 If you listen to Breanna, she won the titles by herself.
@@jameslaughter5183 Yeah she conveniently sweeps under the rug exactly how big a recruiting factory UConn was, and still is, while somehow still taking a couple of potshots at Clark in past months.
Bro, wtf a collegiate ring? she got fiba rings, she beat every real team including sc and owned the dawn staley award till she left against staley's own wishes lol,
@@darchon5 lol she already broke all Stewarts records, enough said
the coach in the 2019 fiba u19 decided that clark should ride the bench behind rhyne howard and caitlin while being a very supportive teammate, she didn't forget ... 2021 iowa takes out kentucky (howard) in ncaa tournament with clark outscoring them in the first half, a couple months later clark wins mvp in fiba u19 and a couple years later goes for a 40pt triple double against the coach / louisville to go to the final four
KD was at AAU nationals and asked who this bad ass was. People told KD it was the best hs player in the country. Who? CC
Ego baby....makes you think your better than you are. Makes you make wrong career decisions. Makes you selfish, not loyal
High school recruiting platforms are not perfect. Talent will show itself for what it is eventually in time. The media they even get it wrong coming out of college too and rate other players higher than better players
Michael Jordan was the #3 pick in the NBA draft.
Kobe Bryant was the #13 pick in his NBA Draft.
Patrick Mahomes was rated a 3 star high school football recruit coming out of HS, and is now the best football player in the world.
The list goes on and on
Just because someone assigns value to you, doesn’t mean anything. They can’t project out how a player will turn out.
Hailey is just one of those players that maxed out in high school. It happens. She is too small and not quick enough to compensate. She will probably play pro in Europe in the future.
It’s still a shame they gave co-rookie of the year to Paige buckets and CC. CC came out and lead the NCAA in points per game as a freshman. And still had to split ROY with a player who was supposed to out perform her but didn’t?
Clark got royally screwed over her freshman year a lot worse than this: Bueckers was also national player of the year, while Clark didn't even get 1st team All-American - not saying Clark should've gotten ntl POY, but at least she had an argument, but certainly she deserved 1st team AA over at least 2 of them who were.
@@darchon5wow! Incredible I didn’t know that!! It’s amazing how that’s even possible, CC wins in the end. She got the Nike deal and all the praise in the end! It the end it doesn’t matter who wants to snub her or downplay her greatness.
@@TrojanFan-id5pc Yeah dude, it's incredible that Clark could be somewhat disrespected like that her freshman yr after not only leading the nation in scoring, but she was also 2nd in assists (the only yr she didn't lead the nation in assists at Iowa, btw). Yes, she got 2nd team AA and co-ROTY, but again, if you see who actually got 1st team AA over her, it's kind of a joke. And imho, co-ROTY was a cop-out, consolation prize.
But in a way, I get it, it's lil ole Iowa vs UConn and the media at least some of which seem to be biased towards them.
@@darchon5 i still don't think paige deserved NPOY as a freshman. she's always been great but she was on an elite team and caitlin comparatively had arguably better stats. i don't think caitlin deserved it either necessarily and she didn't make a final four like paige but it's just funny looking back. the UConn mob ties are tight. people still say that paige is better than her like paige has even gotten a chance to prove that. caitlin going to Iowa is one of the best decisions ever in hindsight but early on it didn't do her a lot of favors and i still think it bothers people within the organization
@@darchon5 totally agree 100 percent! Man you’re so right. They put themselves in a corner maybe because they promoted Paige as the savior of women’s basketball. They would have looked dumb if they admitted they were so wrong by pushing Paige instead of Clark so they had to stick to their guns maybe. What a tragedy. Poor CC.
I think a few of the commenters have the reason for her leaving Louisville arse-about-face. She saw her future as a point guard and the Louisville coach was smart enough to know that she wasn't cut out for it. So it wasn't the LSU coach wanting her to play as point guard, it was HVL demanding the role as she saw that as her future in the WNBA - and getting a ring too. And we all saw how that worked out. Perhaps Jeff Walz knows his onions after all?
Let’s address the elephant in the room. She was clearly slow against Clark and probably needs to lose a few pounds. Maybe the fried diet at all these southern schools has effected her game?
I agree. She got pudgy.
It is what it is.....bot
she was sick in the game this year
Another clickbait title
Dude, HVL college stats are 14.4 / 3.9 / 2.8 (pts / rbds / ast while Clark was 28.4 / 7.1 / 8.2 Caitlin is LITERALLY 2 HVL's in college while only taking up a single spot on the roster.
Hailey van lith was averaging 20 points a game as the number 1 option on a “not as talented” roster. When she went to LSU there were 3 players more talented than her offensively so she became the 4th scoring option
HVL has always been a shooting guard, CC has always been a point guard. Hailey transferred to LSU because the coach at Louisville was not going to try to develop her as a point guard. Coach Mulkey was getting high on her own supply, and believed she could transform a 2 to 1, in one season, in a high-pressure, expected to repeat situation. It exposed Mulkey and showed HVL needs another year to maybe develop some PG skills.
3x3 is a joke. If she’s great why just a bronze?
What place medal did you get again?
What place is Caitlin's medal?
@@justindoud251She played U19 World Olympic team, 3 gold medals and voted MVP!
Caitlin was the 4th ranked person coming out of high school. Bueckers was No. 1. Hailey Van Lith was No. 7. Hailey father who comes across as a domineering father. At Louisville she had the ball in her hands most of the time. Great mid range game and could hit the 3. At LSU she was a off guard a lot and not the facilitator. She has to get back to running the show. Also CC ended Lith's last two years with 41 point games in each.
Caitlin broke her in the Louisville game when she said "You're down 20 points, shut up." She was a very good player until that game. And since she's been a shell of the player she was. I hope she turns it around this year but it's going to be tough.
My sister went to Louisville and I remember going to watch one of the WBB games and Hailey was alright but was overshadowed by her own teammate. I’ve never see that happen to CC
Stoelke 51 pt game sure over shadowed Caitlin!
@@justindoud251 no one on the iowa team ever came close to the offensive production caitlin had. she had help and there was a lot of talent mainly stuelke but stuelke avg 15 points this year as a big
HVL wrote the book “how to F up your career “ 🥴🫣😵
In a matchup: Caitlin Clark: Height 6′ 0″, Weight 154 lbs. Hailey van Lith: Height 5′ 9″, Weight 155 lbs. Clark is 3” taller, HvL is 3” shorter, one of the reasons why she could not guard CC.
Even if Haley was the same height as Clark she still would have been smoked. Everyone still trying to downplay Clark.
Also, CC begins and releases her shots much higher on her frame than does HVL. So, because of height and shot style it's easier to block an HVL shot than a CC shot.
@@skysurfer5cva An analyst observed or said that CC jumps higher than most during her shots. I wonder.
0:18 lol nah she was already slipping by freshman year bc she was trying to be an elite pg . Van lith was a 2 guard and Caitlin was a 1 guard behind Paige. Caitlin can’t come off the bench and get into rhythm. The coach for that team was her dumb Louisville coach. I hated him that year watching the cup. And I loved watching Caitlin cook them both.
Caitlin literally beat Hailey's spirit in college twice that made her go the Ben Simmons anxiety route.
CC cooked her at Louisville and at LSU
Ten seconds in and you confused the two of them. CC in Iowa and HVL in Louisville.
And he claims he knows ball yet he can’t even get the colleges right lol. You would think he could get Clark’s college right since he talks about her every day making 10 videos a day
So an entire video talking about HVL and you think what is very clearly just a slip up 10 seconds in that I never noticed is what I think 🤦♂️
@@MickTalksHoops for the amount you talk about Caitlin you shouldn’t have messed that up since you talk about her 24/7. It’s also very clickbait as usual saying HVL is better than Clark in your thumbnail
@@Wnbafan9956 Spot on. To Mick, it's really not gonna hurt just to say 'my bad' and move on instead of getting defensive about it. And yes, it's absolutely a clickbait title because it was never really true: HVL was ranked #7 in her HS class, Clark was #4 in the same class [edit: this is per ESPN's HS rankings, one of the most reputable out there], and then we know how it went for them in college.
@@darchon5 he always gets defensive lol it’s funny. He also always clickbait’s big time it’s his thing but messing up the colleges was pretty funny idk how you mess that up
Clark would have won Gold in 3x3 basketball in Paris this year. Hailey was so happy she won bronze. 😂
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure Hailey went to Louisville, and Caitlin went to Iowa. Caitlin also ended Hailey's team two years in row.
Kate Martin is a better player than her, and I mean that. I’ve watched Haley in her prime and Kate.
Kate is very good!
CC set over 100 NCAA records, and on track to do the same in the WNBA. Talking up other players, is pointless.
Hailey never drew the defensive coverage that Caitlin confronts every game. Caitlin has to deal with double coverage on every play. Watch Hailey and she seldom drew more than one defender .
I think one of the biggest reason was Caitlin Clark kept growing another 5 inches.
She should have never left Louisville. She’s a really great player. I hope she goes to the Wnba and holds her own.
Can you say something about the Belgium vs France semifinal?
Something !
Prove that Hailey or Paige were ever better than Caitlin going back to high school. You can't.
The Caitlin Clark effect is about more than her play and her stats! There's nobody like Caitlin!
I actually get this. Van Lith is like Kelsey Mitchell, who is an impressive ball handler, driver, and scorer. That fast twitch muscle drive is marvelous. You watch highlights of driving to the basket for the Fever, Kelsey Mitchell will take on four defenders and somehow score; whereas, CC looks slow and methodical in comparison (yet still can score, which is impressive in it own way since she rarely fails to score when she does decide to drive). Still, between them, Kelsey is a sight to see when it comes to driving between defenders to score.
So, the eye test is immediately in favor of Kelsey (and by extension, Van Lith). She fits into a common slot for a team, the Scorer. Yet, as you watch, you realize that playing guard requires more than an ability to drive into the paint and get a layup at will, that passing and outside shooting are just as important, though less glamorous than driving past your defender and, so, out-pacing the competition. This is where CC tends to shine.
So, I can see Van Lith being overestimated because she can take an opponent one on one and generally score. It is a fact that CC is anomalous, she appears slower, less athletic (just watch Kelsey's dribble versus CC's, the former seems to bounce the ball twice for each time CC bounces it), yet she can generally do it all. Despite appearing slower, the ball is rarely stolen from CC and she can wrong foot a defender and blow past her to the basket.
If I were a coach, I would be impressed by CC's skills but I might not know how to incorporate her into a team. Luckily, the Iowa coach realized making CC the foundation of the team and building around her skills was best and, so, CC became a star.
She wanted to go to Connecticut, where she would be forced to be a system player rather than the focus of the team. She was turned down and went to Iowa instead, where, as the focus of the team, she broke several NCAA records. Such is fate.
No way in hell she is like Kelsey Mitchell she's too slow
U said the ball is rarely stolen from Clark??? Lol ask Raven Johnson. Chennedy Carter and the player for the Minnesota lynx
Everyone is better that CC in the social media but NOT in the basketball court.
Bull Shit !!! Have you even looked at the Freshman stats: FG% - .429 to .472, TRB - 5.2 to 5.9, AST - 2.1 to 7.1, STL - 1.2 to 1.3, BLK - .2 to .5, PTS - 11.2 to 26.6. Tell me which players belongs to which Freshman stats. Now tell me which player SHOWED more promise. So what went wrong? Maybe it was a lower starting skill level. At no time was it expected van Lith might become the All Time Leading D1 Scorer or that van Lith might become third All Time D1 in Assists or that van Lith would be on the leader board for Triple Doubles. A video like this does not help your credibility.
HVL will be fine. Mark it. If she ends up not making the wnba, she'll be playing for team USA 3x3 like you said. She transitioned into a SG role and it didn't work out. Mulkey didn't know how to play her. She'll be a killer at TCU. Edit; me watching the last few minutes, you really put it in proper perspective. Hope she finds a role in the league despite her lack of height. 3x3 really does fit her so well though and I'm okay with that
People always hating on Caitlin Clark defense but all the women that she goes up against never score Haley and Raven Johnson didn't but I do hope Haley gets drafted by Indiana this year
She was better than who? I stopped right there
Clark smoked HVL in the Elite 8!
All you do is flip flop. You say one thing in one sentence and the opposite in the next. Pick one lane to drive in.
Grass isn’t always greener…
But, it would be for Caitlin of course!
Yup, she needs a great year... she'll still be drafted and kept by someone...it might take her a few years to break a lineup depending on the team
I’d like to point out that the ROTY for the nba was Larry Bird even tho Magic Johnson and the LALakers won the championship that year . There should be no debate over who is the front runner. Clark’s only weak part is her defense and it not even that bad . Show me highlights of Angel Reese dribbling and passing . Also Larry Legend improved the Celtic wins by 40 games his rookie year . Clark has definitely improved the Fever . Stop seeing color and watch the gameplay
She needs to united with Angel Reese. The Sky will embrace her
I knew her name, but little else. Thanks for the great background information! I wish her a great final college season.
Bro you need to stop with these first it was Paige was better than Clark and now Haley is was better than Clark. SMH😂 and I really like Haley, I felt like she should have stayed at Louisville. TCU might allow her to play her game
Bro, even you're over hyping how good she was at Louisville.. You're blowing how good she was ,WAY outta proportion. Even her teammates couldn't stand her because she was a 'Gotta Get Mine' ball hog the entire time she was there. Nearly EVERYONE hated playing with her, and she could NEVER defend, and her teammates at Louisville knew it. But she took it as, that's someone else's job, I the Star & The Scorer
She was good at Louisville. I went to all the home games her last year and some open runs she showed up at. Idk what happened to her when she left. But she wasn't the same.
I could believe she was better than Clark at something other than basketball
Lmmfao HVL was good but lost it all when CC beat her in ‘23 in the NCAA tournament
Hailey is cute, that's about it.
She's a very good basketball player, but she is not Caitlin Clark.
HVL has very poor management to manage defensive skills which will make a liability every where she goes.
CC is on par with Steph. 🏆🥇 HVL is a dingbat. Not even debatable
"Meaning to be" and "are", are about as different as "one off" and "consistant" one is fleeting while the other is foundational
Too small for 3v3
i mean she won a bronze n mvp, so idk
I disagree. She is not as good a passer as CC. She was more like a Jackie Styles player.
they are all tied at 98 . the number in front of their name is just away of listing them .
Basketball game is a sports using skills with a lot of teamwork and should develop camaraderie . Instead of jealousy it's should turn to healthy competition..
Wake up Mick😂
I think Haley will be a very good Pro and will also bring more eyes to the W!!
It helps that all these women are beautiful. Angel Catilin Cameron Paige Sophie Lexi Gabie Kate and Hailey. If they weren’t playing basketball they are smart educated young women. They will be successful in life without basketball.
Mud sharks can never arise above CC
Every player is better than Caitlin Clark -- according to you.
Nylassa Boston is the GOAT anyway, so who cares about the rest.
HVL was too short and not good enough to be better than her. She literally was just starting over her because her FATHER was involved in the coaching process and put her over Clark.
HVL was unfortunately a SG that never developed PG tendencies and that hurt her greatly when she failed to get the SG build and frame of current players/ peers.
Secondly, ACC wasn't as strong of a conference as Caitlin's conference.
Paige and HVL both played in weaker conferences, and therefore never had to overcome adversity. That's why they aren't "Caitlin Clark" and will hardly have the same impact. Clark was a PG from her career, and remained being a dominant player throughout her career.
Paige has to prove she's going to be a good PG in the WNBA level to really have success since she's a smaller sized SG at this point. Paige won't even get minutes at PG this year, so she'll play the 2/3 some more and then in the WNBA will be overpowered by bigger players in the league. HVL will be fine as a backup PG--given that she at least can do professional aspects: 3 vs 3 level. Like a Sims type player.
Paige isn't going to be that and you gotta stop hyping her up since she's only gotten 14 assists 1 time in her career--and that was her freshman year. She's literally failed to get more than 10 assists for the last 3 years, basically. She's just not that player. Too injured, too weak for the pro levels.
HVL just needs to lock it back in focus on Bball and block out all the other stuff.. she became social media famous and played into that a little and that probably hurt the grind but like I said there’s time. She has another fresh start and if she’s relocked and ready to grind she will be back
Very true! Not sure she'll ever play in the WNBA. There are many better players than her and she has difficulty getting off her shot.
All were youth stars hailey went to mamba academy with kobe … bit cailtin bb improved and her size helps too
I go for Caitlin Clark...let's go ❤
if go for the draft on 2025 Paige Buecker and her will be after the No.1 draft
She and Paige Buecker cannot be better than CC , they need to break 3951 points and the assist records CC made for 4 years not 5 years during their NCAA days
She was never as good as Caitlin Clark Case closed
She transferred so many times , reminds me of LeBrick, lol, she's too short main, watch. She will not be good if drafted...
And that happened cuz an angel Reese that's why she didn't get the glory because they gave it to the angels 😅😅
The part story about that she knew that and that's why she left LSU
His video's are becoming ridiculous.
I think that her dad pushed her to go to LSU and then to TCU.
First thing you say is Clark at Louisville and HVL at Iowa...
I don't like seeing a nice kid like hvl get abused. Thumbs down man.
Hailey was not supposed to be better than cc3 and she was never regarded as that so stop it.
If you knew basketball you know 6 foot tall Clark ruled over 5 ft 7 hvl. Connecticut's own Geno auriema recruited cc3 that's how good she was coming out of high school he did not recruit Hailey.
She could never stop the cap boi. Caitlin my goat on my channel of 450k thats the talk yall can cluck bait and hate all yall want Caitlin is the gwoat
Is their 30 of them ? Lindsey van loo hailey van lithe? Katie van loo? When is there too many loos
😂😂Nah she's good she messed up by going to LSU and she realized that and that's why she left😅😅😅
How many van liths? And van loos are in this league?
There are some YT vids from a few years ago of the best HS girls in the country. There was a lot of coverage of Paige, Cam and Haley. Haley was a beast. Not quite as good a Paige but damn good. Cam was a little klutzy back then but HVL looked good at that time.
She should not have left Louisville
VAN LITH WAS NEVER BETTER THAN CC , NOT EVEN INTHE MULTIVERSE .LOL
Look up more stats so you think you know but you don't.
van Lith has no backbone or work ethic. Clark went to iowa became a leader with a great work ethic. Where as Van
lith has spent her entire college career trying to latch on to better player and then bolts to a new school right after