Daryl: "If you’re going to do a thing, you might as well do it right." Dale was too "soft". Shane was too "hard". Rick hasn't quite found the proper balance between the two extremes, for the sake of the group he needs to get there fast, and Daryl will make a much better second in command, maybe because he doesn't have the personal issues with Rick and Lori that Shane did. We appreciate guys all your support, so don't forget to hit that subscribe button, it really motivates us to keep up the content. And of course if you are interested in the full reaction, you can find us here : www.patreon.com/takeaticket (you can find Rob doing solo reaction to Battlestar Galactica, and the latest records of the current shows we are doing on youtube) Much love Rob and Trin
I think Daryl in the last couple of episodes, has had a major character shift. He's changed from being the constantly disgruntled loner, to incredibly insightful in his own way. You can just feel he's gonna be a great lieutenant if he lives long enough. He's a badass, deadly with a knife, deadly with a x-bow, ninja tracking skills and sharp as pin. I agree Lori has a lot to answer for. She jumped into the sack very quickly after she thought Rick was dead. She as good as suggested Rick should kill Shane and then drops this carrot in front of Shane. She has fuelled this conflict between Rick and Shane, probably unintentionally, but she should have thought it through better. I'm not liking Lori much at the moment.
@@Martyntd5 Daryl always was insightful but now he's more appreciated by the group, Rick especially and therefore more willing to share his insight and do his best for the group
I'm glad you said that Shane thought Rick didn't have it in him he was completely wrong the problem with Shane is that Lori was constantly in his head if he could have got over that him and Rick would have been unstoppable. And yeah we did lost a lot of characters but I can't spoil some stuff but keep watching until season 3 I can't wait
@@Ysmir. ///Daryl always was insightful.../// Yeah, he was. But he was angry at his brother getting left behind and it was Rick who chained Merle to the roof. He's been conflicted up to this point and his actions have been a bit headstrong at times. He's also been carrying a lot of guilt over the death of Carol's girl and handled it badly, yelling at Carol in a quite cruel manner. The whole thing with collecting the ears was a bit weird too. It's about now he seems to have moved past almost all of that and settled into something way, way more stable, balanced and useful.
@@Martyntd5 the ear thing for me wasn't important seeing as he was half delirious and talking to Merle at the time. If I was to put meaning to it, I'd say it was probably him channeling his inner brute or wild side to survive. Him handling emotional situations bad is probably the effect of his upbringing and the fact that he is IMO somewhat emotionally stunted. But being insightful is something he always had in my opinion. He figured Shane and Otis out and that was beginning of season 2, if you've seen the cut scene from between season 1 and 2 - he figured that situation too despite Andrea mocking him. He is very smart and observant and that gives him insight, only now we see him sharing it more freely. But yeah, overall him getting over Merle situation and getting along better with Rick resulted in him being more useful for the group
I always forget that Shane was only in the first 2 seasons. Love him or hate him he made a massive impact on this show. I’m so excited for you guys to get into season 3 😩🖤
true that, he was my fav bad guy of the series because he wasn't an obvious baddie, wasn;t black and white. I didn;t like him as a person but I liked him in the show
@@Ysmir. and the thing is he was only a bad guy for like the last half of season 2 so to have such a big impact as a enemy was awesome and great acting from Jon and great writing by the writers!
@@Ysmir. "he wasn't an obvious baddie, wasn;t black and white." ??? He tried to rape Lori, murdered Otis in cold blood, and threatened to kill Dale multiple times. Wtf do you mean, not black and white?
Glen Mazzara (the showrunner) responded about Shane becoming a walker in this episode much faster than Amy did, and not getting bit: *_"We worked hard to make sure that revelation landed. We knew what we were doing there. We knew it would land a punch. We've never had a main character become a zombie to this extent. Those [rapid flashes of zombie mayhem] represent the storm in Shane's brain to some extent … Amy was a weaker character. Shane is in a murderous rage … he's going to reanimate quicker. There's just more life in that zombie, believe it or not. We do have internal rules for that."_*
@fkw123 plus in season 1, they had Jenner say, “we have reports of it happening in as little as 3 minutes, the longest we’ve heard was 8 hours” They probably had him say that so people would realize that it’s not a plot hole and the reanimation times vary
Fear the walking dead spinoff small spoiler i guess but like who really cares😂 Troy did tests on people to see how fast they turned, he even knows exactly how fast he would turn, it all matters on age, weight, height ect
@@henrylemoine5951 Jenner implied that the health of the individual in question played a role in reanimation time and I always thought that the idea with Shane was that he turned quickly because at the end he was quite seriously mentally ill.
Welcome to Rick 2.0, this episode shows just how ruthless Rick can be. You’re in for a treat in later seasons. Don’t know if you realised this but Carls first Walker kill was Shane
I rewatched and fell back in love with the show a few months ago, and now I have the pleasure of doing it all again via your reactions. Love seeing these in my feeds! Thanks for sharing :)
In the comics, Shane's death happens a lot sooner than it does in the show. In fact, it goes down almost right after Amy loses her life when the camp gets attacked. They kept Shane around in the show because Jon Bernthal was just so good in the role and his dynamic woth Andrew Lincoln's Rick Grimes was just too good to throw away so soon. He does have an affair with Lory like we see and does have a jealousy thing goijg on, but what distinguishes show and comic Shane is that unlike show, when Shane is about to murder Rick, Carl actually shoots Shane to protect his dad. Rick has nothing to do with Shane's death. More than that, Rick kinda starts getting an edge much sooner in the comic as he has to make a lot of tough choices to protect his people, and season 2 almost gives Shane some of Rick's darker qualities. Personally, I think this is one case in which the show does it better. It doesn't happen a lot, but this is definitely one of them.
I’ve watched all 11 seasons and I’m completely caught up for the last 8 episodes, and I gotta say, even after all this time, Shane is still one of the most memorable and great characters in the show even though he was only there for 2 seasons, that’s how impactful he was, even this far in the show, he’s still in my top 10 favorite characters, he’s actually in the top 5!
Idk Orange back pack guy is such a diverse and complex character. He remains a constant presence over the show. He easily could’ve been the main character, with how well he was written.
He is one of my favorite characters in the whole show. We all know his death was necessary for Rick´s development of character (I won´t spoil), but thinking back at it, It would be amazing to have him in the further seasons.
See I think Shane, being his reckless, impulsive self, would make poor choices when it comes to future antagonists. I see him underestimating two very big antagonists forces or falling into certain traps.
OMG this is so much fun and absolutely entertaining watching yall go thru these episodes. and remember, don't get too comfortable in whatever the situation is. nothing is guaranteed. except death.
@@TheEnigmafan25 Really, what does it spoil? Nevermind, I've deleted it. But I really dont think it spoiled anything. I'm quite careful about such things.
Shanes death hurt me. As much as he was wrong about things, he was also right about a lot. He was ahead of his time. I truly think that his and Lori´s last conversation is what turned him to try and kill Rick. A damn shame. I wanted him to be alive for so much longer, such a good character, in my opinion the best.
Shane came to the realization about how things had to be in this new world too soon unfortunately. Had he progressed just a little slower he would have made it far and still been alive today, though I don't think he'd be with our group still. I loved his character! Really wish he was alive longer as well.
I'm not sure Shane was right about the big things. He always talks about making the hard choices, but it seems to me he is consistently called for the easy, cowardly options. He had a much narrower objective than Rick - when he talked about "keeping us alive" the us was only ever him, Lori and Carl. Maybe sounds pragmatic and hard-headed, but it assumes that the wider group is a burden rather than a benefit and I think we've already seen enough to question that.
@@chrispalmer7893 I dont know about you, but to me opening the barn was very much needed and a hard choice to make. Rick chose the easy options. He decided to keep the kid who was clearly a threat, alive? What the hell? This is the Apocalypse, people dont care about other people (strangers) anymore. Besides, we all saw how his group was back at the Bar. They literally tried and wanted to kill Rick, Glenn and Hershel. Therefore, the kid deserved to be taken out. And that´s the hard choice, not the easy one.
@@adamparker3151 There was no great urgency to opening the barn; at most they just needed to keep an eye on it. Shane got incredibly lucky that Hershel was shocked to his senses, could have very easily gone another way. That's one of the key reasons why I think the group were incredibly lucky Shane didn't last any longer - his impulsiveness would have got everybody killed the moment they encountered some of the threats that are to come. It's not brutality that keeps the group alive across the seasons, it's knowing when brutality is the answer and when it is not. Shane was never close to having that level of wisdom. And as for Randall, of course killing him was the easy option. That's why almost no one spoke out against it. A brief moment of unpleasantness and then it's gone and the pressing reality of survival means you don't have to think about it anymore. Nothing could be simpler. That's the real threat Shane posed - intant and complete certainty, comforted by the fiction that there is no other option. It'll get you a long way. Until suddenly it doesn't. Plus, of course, there is the underlying hypocrisy of it all. If Carl had been lost in those woods Shane would never have advocated calling off the search. He wouldn't let them go looking for Andrea, or Carol, or Hershel, but he'd tear everything apart looking for Lori. Nothing to do with the "right" or "safest" choices, just that he only cared about the three of them. Maybe that gets you survival in the short term, but long term survival needs community. He was a liability the group is far better off without. Great character and fun to watch, but a liability all the same.
I just gotta say.... you two are such a pleasure to tune in to. Your perception of this series is impeccable and your analysis is so sharp. Thank you for alllll your efforts and thanks for taking us along on your journey to the undead. Always remember "DON'T DEAD OPEN INSIDE"
Lord and lady, can we get three Walking Dead days please. Your vids are awesome generally but the Walking Dead ones are a true treat. Thanks for letting us see this show through your reactions
Soo soo happy. I love you guys! Glad to be here before you guys blow up real big. Easily one of the best reaction channels I watch. You guys have great guesses too in this and stranger things.
Thank you so much Lindzi, these shows are really amazing, and we are trying to give them justice with our humble reactions 🤗 and it's a joy to share it with you guys
I’m always surprised they don’t have more subscribers. I love the way they really discuss the episodes in depth without any ridiculous over the top reactions like other channels.
I think this is the moment where Rick completely turns from being officer friendly to understanding what he must do to protect his family, when you guys are in future seasons remember this Rick, it really shows how the apocalypse changed him. I love this episode and your reaction, Andrew Lincoln’s (Rick) and Jon Bernthal’s (Shane) acting is insanely GOOD!
Rob you were killing me in the beginning of this video😂 and someone has probably said that already but they discussed a different situation for the Rick and Shane scene at first. Originally they had the idea that after Rick killed Shane Rick would pick up Shane‘s gun to shoot walker Shane but not being able to only hearing clicking noises, revealing that Shane‘s gun wasn’t even loaded and that Shane purposely pushed Rick to the edge and wanted him to kill him because Shane knew he’d never get Lori and he needed Rick to do that in order to be strong for Lori and Carl. Would’ve been a cool back to back with what Rick just said seconds before „You have to kill an unarmed man“ but I think I like how the episode played out now still better. Loved it can’t wait for the finale!🙋🏼♀️
Rob & Trin your reactions were great. I love that your so invested in the characters. It really is a great show. I love that it opens up discussions as to what you would do compared to someone else.
darylle is the only person that i think competes with glen for "does most for the group" shane and rick do about the same amount for the group but shane is a loose cannon and rick sticks to his morals deeply SO EXCITED FOR THE SEASON FINALLY been waiting for specifically this episode since you started the show, your interest in shane really made me excited to see what youd say about this situation
This is one of the best episodes in the show, just pure emotion and acting talent. S2 is absolutely one of the best seasons and the last few episodes are some of the best. Can’t wait for you guys to watch S3, I’m sure the reactions will be fantastic either way.
@@adityasabnani4941 seasons 1-2 are the holy grail. Season 3 is decent but the are mediocre. Sure they have their moments but quality goes downhill very fast. Oh well, happens to a lot of shows.
One of my favorite episodes. My theory is that shane couldnt live in the situation he was in but he couldnt leave. He wanted rick to kill him to prove to him that rick had what it takes to take care of laurie and carl. My reasoning for this is that if he really wanted to kill rick he had plenty of opportunity to do it and never took it. Also he was taunting him the whole time and telling him to raise his gun.
There’s another theory that Shane got infected on the bus cuz he cut his palm with the same knife he used against a Walker. Knowing he was infected he does all the things involving your theory
Shane made his exit, but he was and will remain in this series in the future. Maybe not visible but definitely present. He has been the most important character for Rick.
@@mindelos1706 Don't see the connection at all. A character who makes his exit, no matter at what time, says nothing about the consistency of a show. Death always comes unpredictably.
@@TomTomson81 Shane demise seems too rushed. Just look how Rick goes out of character and ,in a sneaky violent way, kills a guy that was surrendered. On top of that they spend years working as colleagues, watching each others back in dangerous police officers job so they build a lot loyalty and team work. And all of that is simply washed off ,forgotten in matter of seconds, and Rick just get rid of his brother, one of the most valuable asset in the group? Not a good move to do in a world where you need the best skilled people around you. Thats the sort of inconsistency i am talking about, Rick acting like that so odd and out of character.
@@mindelos1706 I don't think it's odd and out of character. I think Rick knew from the beginning about Lori and Shane. Shane became unstable, Rick couldn't trust him any more. Rick gave him as many chances as he could to think about what he was doing. Rick only killed Shane because Shane was going to kill him.
@@mindelos1706 My theory is that Shane not really intended to kill Rick, otherwise he would have done it. At the same time, he thought Rick was too weak and he loves Lorie. I think he realized the futility of his love and I think he provoked Rick to do exactly what he did. If you can kill your best friend, you can also protect Shane's girlfriend and Carl. And don't forget Rick has crossed the next line. Shane already had the gun downstairs and was no longer a threat at the time. So Rick became a murderer, because the self-defense situation was already over. What Rick was doing was deliberately with the intention of killing Shane, sneaking into his mind. And when it was done, he pushed the responsibility for it away from himself. He wouldn't be the one who did it, Shane got him to do it. Denial. Justification for the murder. Exactly the behavior that Shane showed all the time. Apart from that, this was foreseeable and absolutely not out of character. Lorie has planted this seed a few episodes before. So no, that was in him and he let that out now after Shane crossed the last line. It may have seemed a bit out of character because you literally have to become another person to kill your best friend. This is absolutely credible behaviour. The whole season has been working towards Shane's death by Rick. So I don't know what you want to have seen that you think it's odd. That was obvious and therefore absolutely understandable.
21:15 Myself and others have speculated that Shane was obsessed with Her prior to Rick being shot and the Outbreak. Shane was a Great character, not so good human but a great character. Can't wait until you guys see S2E13 and S3E01. As they tie into each other. Hope you two are enjoying the show.
I don’t think Shane was obsessed with her as such, I think he always looked at Lori and Ricks relationship as something he wanted in life. Rick “dying” ultimately gave him that option to have a relationship like that + the fact he most likely trauma bonded to her due to the situation and environment.
The scene between Carl and Rick with him handing him back the gun is one of my favourites in the entire show. And is made more relevant and sad when you have the whole show as context.
9:09 Well the Barn incident was a forced wake up call for him. Hershel was faced with an instant and unchangeable new world view. He knew right away he was wrong and Rick was the one to lead.
This is the first episode of the series that reaches into the top 25 episodes!! Definitely the first major major episode of the series. (9.6/10) -Better Angels
Shane & Rick have HISTORY & he is not only like a brother to him but basically an Uncle/God Father to Carl & all the tender scenes with him throughout this season so far such as right after Carl was shot and he was being so empathetic and thoughtful with Rick about the whole situation and then later comforting and cleaning Carol I truly believe that if Rick had not gone in the coma and had been alive throughout the start of this apocalypse he would not be too far off from where Shane is right now. I think Shane just adapted faster than everyone else and lost his mind a bit when Lori petted him and Rick against each other :(. I definitely agree that he and Rick together would’ve been a truly formidable force long-term if Lori did not get between them.
I'm sure someone already mentioned it but they turn without being bit because they all already have the virus, they literally are the "walking dead" just as much as the zombies are. The CDC scientist in the Season 1 finale explains it to Rick.
I've been watching these reactions for The Walking Dead! (I haven't watched any of the other shows you're reacting to yet. I don't want spoilers!) I have all the first 10 seasons on DVD and have seen them all a few times. I love it! It's extra fun seeing you two react to them!!!
@@keeganwatt5209 eww, characters ain’t got shit like these ones do in TWD. Plus I’m more a fan of TWD’s unrealistic nature trying to be realistic while ST goes full blown fantasy.
The question at the beginning had me crying. Trapped in a farm house surrounded by zombies with a shotgun with just one shell... who do I sleep with, Rick or Shane? I cried laughing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oooh I agree with Rob. If I can't say Daryl, then my fav at that time of the show was Maggie. First season that would be Glenn but he kinda faded for me in second season. Maggie is a gal with balls. Edit: as for Andrea. IMO she has a chip on her shoulder. She's trying too hard to be a badass, she's arrogant in her opinions - like seen in Beth situation. She's also a very poor judge of character, siding with Shane this season, not gonna say whats next but yeah...
Rob out here ensuring we don't violate copyrights with our imagination... lol. I imagine you want to sleep with the person who's faster so you can do your thing and still escape the house.
I love watching your reactions. I watched the show when it was on TV and it is awesome to see it through the eyes of someone first time watching. No spoilers from me, but I am curious ... in your opinion ... whose story are you watching?
I'm not sure that Shane's trigger is Lori, maybe Dale's death, the only person who saw how he looked at Rick, he saw an opportunity and took it. He was planning for the murder some time.... Looking forward for the next episode 🤗
Shane has been trying to shoot his shot at killing RICK since season 1!! But someone or something always seem to interfere. He was going to kill Rick most definitely but his anger got The best of him because he knows the type of person Rick was.They was best friends on top of working together. He underestimated him, the writers said it on talking Dead that Shane would have killed Rick that night if He didn't kill him.
goodbye, Shane, the killer and the failed rapist (remember the end of season 1, right?) The next, final episode is a wild, classic zombie episode! I can't wait to see it!(By the way, tearing and gutting is a classic for the zombie genre. I'm glad we saw it in the last episode. I'm sorry, Dale.)
Still to this day both Dale’s death and Shane’s death were the first character deaths to hit me hard Dale being the voice of reason and the moral compass in the group and all about having humanity is what’s right for us as human beings one of my favourites and Shane Rick’s best friend and right hand man until Daryl stepped up when he had to put down Dale Shane was another one of my favourites yeah I understand why Shane had to die was never suppose to happen but he had to I can tell that deep down Rick didn’t wanna kill his best friend but he had to Shane lost his mind there was no way out of that I just wish that they coulda worked things out and made up but sadly Rick killing Shane had to happen I’m sure this is gonna have a big impact on the group especially Rick because deep down he cared for him to this day I still miss Dale and Shane.
I've enjoyed your guys' reactions, but if I had one piece of constructive criticism it's that no matter what device I use to listen, phone, Bluetooth speakers, pc, TV, etc I can never hear the episode very well. Not because of talking over it or anything but because the volume of it appears to be much lower than your own. So while I have seen the show before its hard to piece together exact lines sometimes because they are so low. I know copyright issues and whatnot but I'd imagine that's why you black it out every few seconds, and being edited you don't even have the full episode being reacted to. So if possible, can we get a slight increase in volume of the episodes themselves?
So excited for you two to see the next few seasons. They are especially amazing. I am so ready to hunker down and watch your journey with this show even further. Thanks guys!
The cinematography and screenwriting is genius. Just Rick and Shane in a field, the only noise besides them is crickets. It built so much tension and once Shane gets stabbed sad music starts playing
The best lunch breaks are on the days you release a new TWD reaction. This was a big one. Shane went way too far. But that problem's out of the way. Why are people turning without getting bit?! 😱 Hopefully that herd doesn't hit the farm.
I'm a lover of Rick, my answer to your question is my Officer Friendly! *.* And I'm on season finale 11 :D Shane keeps losing his: shit" and had to be put down like a rabid dog. I was very sad, but I felt a LOT of relief and the damn soap opera drama gone-again I'm not a fan of human drama-this show is an exception but in first watching, it this guy and I agree that we were not fans of the drama >< I love animal drama over human drama. Too much. Rick is the MAN and Carl is...trying to be a man lol. But certainly, Shane was the loose cannon and Lori has bad timing, well to me she should have let well enough alone, but I get it as for me being female and as an individual, I linger on anything that bothers me and love to have closure. I can care too much and be gullible and sorta of forget how dangerous people can be and precarious a situation can be, trying to hope you tread softly or just go in cracking some eggs, lol. But I can tell Lori has been wanting to get that off her chest, this triangle, this constant blame and badgering of Shane. She should have did it a while back and by far she's finally, eating that humble pie far too late-I realize that she full of too much pride and is unyielding to her own faults-a bit of a narcissist -which I couldn't stand about her-she reminds me of my lovely mom ^.^ "Love you mom!!" Rick's loving memories of his childhood friend and co-pilot officer "not so friendly" is gone by his own hands. He too was hanging on his relationship with Shane, thinking he can carry not only the burden as a leader but revive his friendship and faults of Shane. (Rick knew that Shane killed otis. If Were him I'd be self-medicating honestly. Thats just crazy. Shane is still a murder even more now.)
Your "who would you sleep with ?" question had me dying 🤣 If it were me I'd sleep with both of them ( not at the same time, lol) .Let's face it, early apocalypse Shane is sexy as he'll but after enjoying Shane it would be Rick forever! You just can't do any better than Rick all the way around! He's so damn perfectly imperfect but has the heart of a lion who would die for those he loves and risk it all to do what's right. Jk, it would just be Rick but you have to admit that John Bernthal ( Shane) is some kind of sexy 😉
I can't believe I'm re-watching you guys watching The Walking Dead, lol Seasons 1 & 2 are my faves. I will say, Lori gets on my last nerve sometimes, BUT I dont fault her for what she said to Shane, I just think it should have been said ALOT sooner. Shane was too far gone at this point. I miss the farm so much. I can't believe they never revisited it as a group.
Little Comic Comparison here Carl shooting Shane zombified was a similarity to the comic because in the comics Shane was already dead by this point in the comics Shane is killed pretty quickly just before they left the Atlanta camp Shane tries to kill Rick but then Carl shoots Shane dead alive saving Rick it’s great that TV Shane outlived his comic counterpart but it’s sad that we lost a great character I thought Jon Bernthal did a great job playing the role as Shane the actor went on to do different things I followed the actor after he was killed off here he went on to be in great movies and I loved him as Frank Castle/The Punisher in Marvel’s Netflix shows Daredevil Season 2 and The Punisher He mighta been an asshole at the end but deep down he’s still a human being that cared about Rick and the group i still miss Shane.
John Bernthal (Shane's actor) said he wanted something else to happen with the fight with Rick. Shane wanted to originally lead Rick away so that he would kill Shane. Shane wanted Rick to kill him so that he would become the man who is strong enough to survive in this world and protect his family. And how we would know this was, Rick would've picked up Shane's gun and go to fire the gun to kill Walker Shane and it would go click click*. The scene still can play like this if you watch it again with the idea of Shane wanting to die. The reason Shane wants to die is because he knows he is too far gone and the talk with Lori kinda sold that to Shane. Andrew Lincoln(Rick's actor) and John talked about this idea and they both loved it but the show runners decided to not include Rick picking up Shane's empty gun. John Bernthal said if you watch with that context it makes more sense anyways. You also see Shane taunting Rick saying he isn't man enough and I'm a better father. Here's John Bernthal explaining it ruclips.net/video/tSXRC3x2xA4/видео.html
@@garythompsant1050 The best death scene is Sophias. From the small sneak peek when she steps a foot from the barn and the reveal as full zombie gets me everytime. Too bad from season 3 the characters are all canon food and you barely feel nothing when they die.
I've started re-watching again and up to s5, so excited for you to see up coming eps! I'm now saying "I can't wait for Rob & Trin to see that" lmao....
For me the question about Shane versus Rick and the one shotgun who would I sleep with thing is easy. Rick. But that's only because we know that Shane would probably use that one bullet in the shotgun to kill me rather than any zombies. Shane is way to volatile and undependable.
This will be a long comment because the scene between Rick and Shane is one of my favorite in television history and I have some things to share about it that I think is interesting. First of all the actor who plays Shane, Jon Bernthal, originally wanted it to be a case where Shane forced Rick to kill him and his gun was empty the whole time. He wanted the scene to play out similarly but after Shane is killed Rick tries to use Shane's gun on zombie Shane and realizes it's empty. Shane wanted Rick to become the man he thought he should be to protect Lori and Carl. Another interesting detail in this scene is when Shane looks down at the knife and quickly looks at Rick and then back at the knife. Most people myself included took this to mean he was surprised that Rick actually stabbed him but that's not the case at all. What that look really meant is he was surprised Rick pulled the knife out of him because that essentially signed his death warrant. Although unlikely Shane could have possibly survived if Rick didn't pull the knife out so that's what that surprised look was. Another interesting detail is if you watch the scene very carefully with the audio really high, you can make out some words that Shane says to Rick under his breath as he's gurgling on the ground he says very clearly "keep at it". If you don't believe me go watch the scene by itself on RUclips and listen very closely after Rick stabs him. I think this is just a small Easter egg that Shane's actor added into it and you're not actually meant to hear it. In the end I agreed with Shane on most things. Randall should have been killed, the search for Sophia should have ended after a couple of days or a week at most, the barn Walkers needed to be killed, killing Otis saved Shane and Carl's life whereas not killing him they all three would have died. The one thing I could never agree with though is trying to kill your best friend and unfortunately that's what ended up getting him killed. I always wonder what would have happened if Shane had went with Rick to retrieve Herschel and had seen Rick put down those two guys. What would have happened if Lori hadn't played mind games and manipulated his emotions. Rick gave him every chance and then some to turn back and he just couldn't get over Lori and Carl. Also it's worth noting that Shane could have killed Rick at any time during that encounter but his love for Rick gave him the opportunity he needed. One last thing to note is that you can see Rick's subtle shift in his facial expressions after Shane says "You've got a broken woman. You've got a weak boy." I believe that was the moment he decided to kill Shane. That's also the moment where he stops talking to him as a friend and he begins talking to him like a police officer would with a criminal trying to talk him down as he brings up going back to Lori and Carl to get his gun away. A very tragic situation and a very well-written character. Shane reaching for his friends face for comfort as he's dying and Rick grabbing his hand was very touching. Despite how they ended up they still cared for each other deeply. Rest in peace Shane Walsh
Such an amazing journey ahead for the two of you. For sheer character development the Walking Dead is one of the best. Andrew Lincoln is such an incredible actor unafraid to show true raw emotion. The same for Jon Bernthal as Shane.
Wow, yeah I for one can tell you that it is extremely ehh… unfortunate that I know what the future brings. (Though I’ll never speak such future👌). Also to note, season 2 takes place in 2-3 weeks, season 1 was a certain handful of days.
In this show, what you think will happen.. it probably won’t happen! 😂 I loved Shane, after seen other episodes, I always think about how he would handle it better but, that’s all I can say. 🤐 😂😂 are we increasing to 3 episodes a week? 😂😂 I’m glad you guys are hooked! 😁 your questions will be answered soon 😂😂🤐🤐🤐🤐 DARYL = Loyalty!
They shot a version of the final scene in which it turned out Shane's gun wasn't loaded - the idea being that he was goading Rick into killing him with the intention of turning Rick into who Shane thought he needed to be. I don't think that fully worked with what else we saw, so I can see why they dropped it, but it was an interesting idea. Heart-warming aside Jeffrey De Munn, who played Dale and was no longer in Georgia when this episode was shot, flew down specially just to be on set for Jon Bernthal's final day. And no doubt to go out for the meal that had already become a tradition when someone is killed off... Also worth noting that AMC's marketing department notoriously spoiled this episode by running ads about "Shane's last episode of the Walking Dead" before it aired. And, as it the way with such things, a huge number of people who were pissed off about that ending up spoiling it for other people by complaining and drawing attention to it...
This is one of the episodes i qas waiting for of the many to come. But season 2 focused on people and their humanity and survival, and everything, with walkers being the distraction. Excellent writing in this season, im ready for the s3 rollercoaster reactions
I love your after show discussions -the character development on this show is almost unmatched. And I love when Rick has little moments like cocking his gun on the way to look for Randall - he's such a badass.
Daryl: "If you’re going to do a thing, you might as well do it right."
Dale was too "soft". Shane was too "hard". Rick hasn't quite found the proper balance between the two extremes, for the sake of the group he needs to get there fast, and Daryl will make a much better second in command, maybe because he doesn't have the personal issues with Rick and Lori that Shane did.
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I think Daryl in the last couple of episodes, has had a major character shift. He's changed from being the constantly disgruntled loner, to incredibly insightful in his own way. You can just feel he's gonna be a great lieutenant if he lives long enough. He's a badass, deadly with a knife, deadly with a x-bow, ninja tracking skills and sharp as pin.
I agree Lori has a lot to answer for. She jumped into the sack very quickly after she thought Rick was dead. She as good as suggested Rick should kill Shane and then drops this carrot in front of Shane. She has fuelled this conflict between Rick and Shane, probably unintentionally, but she should have thought it through better. I'm not liking Lori much at the moment.
@@Martyntd5 Daryl always was insightful but now he's more appreciated by the group, Rick especially and therefore more willing to share his insight and do his best for the group
I'm glad you said that Shane thought Rick didn't have it in him he was completely wrong the problem with Shane is that Lori was constantly in his head if he could have got over that him and Rick would have been unstoppable. And yeah we did lost a lot of characters but I can't spoil some stuff but keep watching until season 3 I can't wait
@@Ysmir. ///Daryl always was insightful...///
Yeah, he was. But he was angry at his brother getting left behind and it was Rick who chained Merle to the roof. He's been conflicted up to this point and his actions have been a bit headstrong at times. He's also been carrying a lot of guilt over the death of Carol's girl and handled it badly, yelling at Carol in a quite cruel manner. The whole thing with collecting the ears was a bit weird too. It's about now he seems to have moved past almost all of that and settled into something way, way more stable, balanced and useful.
@@Martyntd5 the ear thing for me wasn't important seeing as he was half delirious and talking to Merle at the time. If I was to put meaning to it, I'd say it was probably him channeling his inner brute or wild side to survive. Him handling emotional situations bad is probably the effect of his upbringing and the fact that he is IMO somewhat emotionally stunted. But being insightful is something he always had in my opinion. He figured Shane and Otis out and that was beginning of season 2, if you've seen the cut scene from between season 1 and 2 - he figured that situation too despite Andrea mocking him. He is very smart and observant and that gives him insight, only now we see him sharing it more freely.
But yeah, overall him getting over Merle situation and getting along better with Rick resulted in him being more useful for the group
"This was YOU, NOT ME!" Poor Rick, forced to kill who he saw as a brother .
Rob reacting to Shane hitting himself "Look at this. WTF is this?" had me cracking up.😂
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That had me dying I can’t lie
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I always forget that Shane was only in the first 2 seasons. Love him or hate him he made a massive impact on this show. I’m so excited for you guys to get into season 3 😩🖤
true that, he was my fav bad guy of the series because he wasn't an obvious baddie, wasn;t black and white. I didn;t like him as a person but I liked him in the show
Yeah The First 18 Episodes
@@Ysmir. and the thing is he was only a bad guy for like the last half of season 2 so to have such a big impact as a enemy was awesome and great acting from Jon and great writing by the writers!
@@Ysmir. "he wasn't an obvious baddie, wasn;t black and white." ???
He tried to rape Lori, murdered Otis in cold blood, and threatened to kill Dale multiple times.
Wtf do you mean, not black and white?
Glen Mazzara (the showrunner) responded about Shane becoming a walker in this episode much faster than Amy did, and not getting bit: *_"We worked hard to make sure that revelation landed. We knew what we were doing there. We knew it would land a punch. We've never had a main character become a zombie to this extent. Those [rapid flashes of zombie mayhem] represent the storm in Shane's brain to some extent … Amy was a weaker character. Shane is in a murderous rage … he's going to reanimate quicker. There's just more life in that zombie, believe it or not. We do have internal rules for that."_*
@fkw123 plus in season 1, they had Jenner say, “we have reports of it happening in as little as 3 minutes, the longest we’ve heard was 8 hours”
They probably had him say that so people would realize that it’s not a plot hole and the reanimation times vary
Fear the walking dead spinoff small spoiler i guess but like who really cares😂
Troy did tests on people to see how fast they turned, he even knows exactly how fast he would turn, it all matters on age, weight, height ect
@@henrylemoine5951 Jenner implied that the health of the individual in question played a role in reanimation time and I always thought that the idea with Shane was that he turned quickly because at the end he was quite seriously mentally ill.
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@@T2G-DJT hold your tongue sur! Troy was a lad
Rick's wailing/crying will never not get to me lmaoo
Crazy to think that Shane was only in 2 seasons, and the shortest seasons, he had such a huge impact
He was amazing in these 2 seasons, delivered the emotions that the character needed
Welcome to Rick 2.0, this episode shows just how ruthless Rick can be. You’re in for a treat in later seasons.
Don’t know if you realised this but Carls first Walker kill was Shane
I rewatched and fell back in love with the show a few months ago, and now I have the pleasure of doing it all again via your reactions. Love seeing these in my feeds! Thanks for sharing :)
Thank you Joshuah 🤗
This was such a fun episode, and it's so hard to awnser your questions without spoiling anything😂 I guess I'll have to wait for new episodes😭
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In the comics, Shane's death happens a lot sooner than it does in the show. In fact, it goes down almost right after Amy loses her life when the camp gets attacked. They kept Shane around in the show because Jon Bernthal was just so good in the role and his dynamic woth Andrew Lincoln's Rick Grimes was just too good to throw away so soon. He does have an affair with Lory like we see and does have a jealousy thing goijg on, but what distinguishes show and comic Shane is that unlike show, when Shane is about to murder Rick, Carl actually shoots Shane to protect his dad. Rick has nothing to do with Shane's death. More than that, Rick kinda starts getting an edge much sooner in the comic as he has to make a lot of tough choices to protect his people, and season 2 almost gives Shane some of Rick's darker qualities. Personally, I think this is one case in which the show does it better. It doesn't happen a lot, but this is definitely one of them.
That set up was HILARIOUS OMG I did not see that question coming 😂😂😂 this is why I love y’all lol
~Trin, have to say took me by surprise 😂
I’ve watched all 11 seasons and I’m completely caught up for the last 8 episodes, and I gotta say, even after all this time, Shane is still one of the most memorable and great characters in the show even though he was only there for 2 seasons, that’s how impactful he was, even this far in the show, he’s still in my top 10 favorite characters, he’s actually in the top 5!
Idk Orange back pack guy is such a diverse and complex character. He remains a constant presence over the show. He easily could’ve been the main character, with how well he was written.
@@bradcarver8127 what about red poncho guy?😂😂😂
Close second, but his crossover to Fear the Walking Dead was jarring. The poncho clashes with the desaturated landscape.
He is one of my favorite characters in the whole show. We all know his death was necessary for Rick´s development of character (I won´t spoil), but thinking back at it, It would be amazing to have him in the further seasons.
See I think Shane, being his reckless, impulsive self, would make poor choices when it comes to future antagonists. I see him underestimating two very big antagonists forces or falling into certain traps.
OMG this is so much fun and absolutely entertaining watching yall go thru these episodes. and remember, don't get too comfortable in whatever the situation is. nothing is guaranteed. except death.
@@Martyntd5 That can be a spoiler.
@@TheEnigmafan25 Really, what does it spoil? Nevermind, I've deleted it. But I really dont think it spoiled anything. I'm quite careful about such things.
Shanes death hurt me. As much as he was wrong about things, he was also right about a lot. He was ahead of his time. I truly think that his and Lori´s last conversation is what turned him to try and kill Rick. A damn shame. I wanted him to be alive for so much longer, such a good character, in my opinion the best.
I would've loved to see him fight the big threat in the next season. Damn Lori. I really hate what she does on the next episode.
Shane came to the realization about how things had to be in this new world too soon unfortunately. Had he progressed just a little slower he would have made it far and still been alive today, though I don't think he'd be with our group still. I loved his character! Really wish he was alive longer as well.
I'm not sure Shane was right about the big things. He always talks about making the hard choices, but it seems to me he is consistently called for the easy, cowardly options. He had a much narrower objective than Rick - when he talked about "keeping us alive" the us was only ever him, Lori and Carl. Maybe sounds pragmatic and hard-headed, but it assumes that the wider group is a burden rather than a benefit and I think we've already seen enough to question that.
@@chrispalmer7893 I dont know about you, but to me opening the barn was very much needed and a hard choice to make. Rick chose the easy options. He decided to keep the kid who was clearly a threat, alive? What the hell? This is the Apocalypse, people dont care about other people (strangers) anymore. Besides, we all saw how his group was back at the Bar. They literally tried and wanted to kill Rick, Glenn and Hershel.
Therefore, the kid deserved to be taken out. And that´s the hard choice, not the easy one.
@@adamparker3151 There was no great urgency to opening the barn; at most they just needed to keep an eye on it. Shane got incredibly lucky that Hershel was shocked to his senses, could have very easily gone another way. That's one of the key reasons why I think the group were incredibly lucky Shane didn't last any longer - his impulsiveness would have got everybody killed the moment they encountered some of the threats that are to come. It's not brutality that keeps the group alive across the seasons, it's knowing when brutality is the answer and when it is not. Shane was never close to having that level of wisdom.
And as for Randall, of course killing him was the easy option. That's why almost no one spoke out against it. A brief moment of unpleasantness and then it's gone and the pressing reality of survival means you don't have to think about it anymore. Nothing could be simpler. That's the real threat Shane posed - intant and complete certainty, comforted by the fiction that there is no other option. It'll get you a long way. Until suddenly it doesn't.
Plus, of course, there is the underlying hypocrisy of it all. If Carl had been lost in those woods Shane would never have advocated calling off the search. He wouldn't let them go looking for Andrea, or Carol, or Hershel, but he'd tear everything apart looking for Lori. Nothing to do with the "right" or "safest" choices, just that he only cared about the three of them. Maybe that gets you survival in the short term, but long term survival needs community. He was a liability the group is far better off without.
Great character and fun to watch, but a liability all the same.
Sidenote I do think daryl is a great character, I love his scenes with carol but I also love seeing him snd rick interact
I just gotta say.... you two are such a pleasure to tune in to. Your perception of this series is impeccable and your analysis is so sharp.
Thank you for alllll your efforts and thanks for taking us along on your journey to the undead.
Always remember
"DON'T DEAD
OPEN INSIDE"
Lord and lady, can we get three Walking Dead days please. Your vids are awesome generally but the Walking Dead ones are a true treat. Thanks for letting us see this show through your reactions
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I agree with this. Pleaaseee
I cant wait for tuesdays finale. Its epic!! How are we almost at S3 already! I love that you guys love this show ❤
Remember season 1 and 2 only had 19 episodes combined. From now on there are 16 episodes per season.
22 in season 10 and 24 in final season 11
As of now 169 episodes are out , 18 done 151 remaining
@@adityasabnani4941 So at this rate we'll be done in a year and a half.
Rob, you need to do 3 a week mate, that's still a years worth.
Soo soo happy. I love you guys! Glad to be here before you guys blow up real big. Easily one of the best reaction channels I watch. You guys have great guesses too in this and stranger things.
Thank you so much Lindzi, these shows are really amazing, and we are trying to give them justice with our humble reactions 🤗 and it's a joy to share it with you guys
I’m always surprised they don’t have more subscribers. I love the way they really discuss the episodes in depth without any ridiculous over the top reactions like other channels.
Amazing episode, and yes Daryl is smart. And a little info, the walker bite kills you. If your brain isn't destroyed you turn.
I think this is the moment where Rick completely turns from being officer friendly to understanding what he must do to protect his family, when you guys are in future seasons remember this Rick, it really shows how the apocalypse changed him. I love this episode and your reaction, Andrew Lincoln’s (Rick) and Jon Bernthal’s (Shane) acting is insanely GOOD!
Rob you were killing me in the beginning of this video😂
and someone has probably said that already but they discussed a different situation for the Rick and Shane scene at first.
Originally they had the idea that after Rick killed Shane Rick would pick up Shane‘s gun to shoot walker Shane but not being able to only hearing clicking noises, revealing that Shane‘s gun wasn’t even loaded and that Shane purposely pushed Rick to the edge and wanted him to kill him because Shane knew he’d never get Lori and he needed Rick to do that in order to be strong for Lori and Carl.
Would’ve been a cool back to back with what Rick just said seconds before „You have to kill an unarmed man“ but I think I like how the episode played out now still better.
Loved it can’t wait for the finale!🙋🏼♀️
Rob & Trin your reactions were great. I love that your so invested in the characters. It really is a great show. I love that it opens up discussions as to what you would do compared to someone else.
Loving the two reactions a week guys 😄
We are so happy to be able to watch more aswell :)
darylle is the only person that i think competes with glen for "does most for the group"
shane and rick do about the same amount for the group but shane is a loose cannon and rick sticks to his morals deeply
SO EXCITED FOR THE SEASON FINALLY
been waiting for specifically this episode since you started the show, your interest in shane really made me excited to see what youd say about this situation
This is one of the best episodes in the show, just pure emotion and acting talent. S2 is absolutely one of the best seasons and the last few episodes are some of the best. Can’t wait for you guys to watch S3, I’m sure the reactions will be fantastic either way.
Thank you Scott, and yeah Season 2 was amazing, fast pace, dark and very emotional
Well season 2 us just the beginning, this show goes to great heights in season 5,6,4,3,9,10,11
@@adityasabnani4941 I think all the seasons are pretty great, just some a bit less great than others. 2,3,4 and 9 being my absolute favourites.
@@adityasabnani4941 seasons 1-2 are the holy grail. Season 3 is decent but the are mediocre. Sure they have their moments but quality goes downhill very fast. Oh well, happens to a lot of shows.
I absolutely agree with you.
One of my favorite episodes. My theory is that shane couldnt live in the situation he was in but he couldnt leave. He wanted rick to kill him to prove to him that rick had what it takes to take care of laurie and carl. My reasoning for this is that if he really wanted to kill rick he had plenty of opportunity to do it and never took it. Also he was taunting him the whole time and telling him to raise his gun.
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Sir its canon
There’s another theory that Shane got infected on the bus cuz he cut his palm with the same knife he used against a Walker. Knowing he was infected he does all the things involving your theory
@@portsidedyldo2661 also a neat addition
Friggin Laurie. An incredible scene between Rick and Shane at the end. Really excellent ending to this episode.
Shane made his exit, but he was and will remain in this series in the future. Maybe not visible but definitely present. He has been the most important character for Rick.
This is when the writing of the show starts to get inconsistent. Shane character was way too important to get ripped too soon.
@@mindelos1706 Don't see the connection at all. A character who makes his exit, no matter at what time, says nothing about the consistency of a show. Death always comes unpredictably.
@@TomTomson81 Shane demise seems too rushed. Just look how Rick goes out of character and ,in a sneaky violent way, kills a guy that was surrendered. On top of that they spend years working as colleagues, watching each others back in dangerous police officers job so they build a lot loyalty and team work. And all of that is simply washed off ,forgotten in matter of seconds, and Rick just get rid of his brother, one of the most valuable asset in the group? Not a good move to do in a world where you need the best skilled people around you. Thats the sort of inconsistency i am talking about, Rick acting like that so odd and out of character.
@@mindelos1706 I don't think it's odd and out of character. I think Rick knew from the beginning about Lori and Shane. Shane became unstable, Rick couldn't trust him any more. Rick gave him as many chances as he could to think about what he was doing. Rick only killed Shane because Shane was going to kill him.
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My theory is that Shane not really intended to kill Rick, otherwise he would have done it. At the same time, he thought Rick was too weak and he loves Lorie. I think he realized the futility of his love and I think he provoked Rick to do exactly what he did.
If you can kill your best friend, you can also protect Shane's girlfriend and Carl. And don't forget Rick has crossed the next line. Shane already had the gun downstairs and was no longer a threat at the time. So Rick became a murderer, because the self-defense situation was already over.
What Rick was doing was deliberately with the intention of killing Shane, sneaking into his mind. And when it was done, he pushed the responsibility for it away from himself. He wouldn't be the one who did it, Shane got him to do it. Denial. Justification for the murder. Exactly the behavior that Shane showed all the time.
Apart from that, this was foreseeable and absolutely not out of character. Lorie has planted this seed a few episodes before. So no, that was in him and he let that out now after Shane crossed the last line. It may have seemed a bit out of character because you literally have to become another person to kill your best friend. This is absolutely credible behaviour.
The whole season has been working towards Shane's death by Rick. So I don't know what you want to have seen that you think it's odd. That was obvious and therefore absolutely understandable.
Been waiting for this! Thanks for making my Sunday guys 🥰❤️
Dale was the moral compass. I think that’s the word you are looking for.
21:15 Myself and others have speculated that Shane was obsessed with Her prior to Rick being shot and the Outbreak. Shane was a Great character, not so good human but a great character. Can't wait until you guys see S2E13 and S3E01. As they tie into each other. Hope you two are enjoying the show.
I don’t think Shane was obsessed with her as such, I think he always looked at Lori and Ricks relationship as something he wanted in life. Rick “dying” ultimately gave him that option to have a relationship like that + the fact he most likely trauma bonded to her due to the situation and environment.
The scene between Carl and Rick with him handing him back the gun is one of my favourites in the entire show. And is made more relevant and sad when you have the whole show as context.
The next episode is really amazing and the start of the new Rick :) Hype for it! Always looking forward to the next one
9:09 Well the Barn incident was a forced wake up call for him. Hershel was faced with an instant and unchangeable new world view. He knew right away he was wrong and Rick was the one to lead.
This is the first episode of the series that reaches into the top 25 episodes!! Definitely the first major major episode of the series.
(9.6/10) -Better Angels
lol no fair. if you asked her that apocalypse Rick or Shane question you should have to answer it too! lmao...
~Trin, I totally agree 😂😂
Shane & Rick have HISTORY & he is not only like a brother to him but basically an Uncle/God Father to Carl & all the tender scenes with him throughout this season so far such as right after Carl was shot and he was being so empathetic and thoughtful with Rick about the whole situation and then later comforting and cleaning Carol I truly believe that if Rick had not gone in the coma and had been alive throughout the start of this apocalypse he would not be too far off from where Shane is right now.
I think Shane just adapted faster than everyone else and lost his mind a bit when Lori petted him and Rick against each other :(. I definitely agree that he and Rick together would’ve been a truly formidable force long-term if Lori did not get between them.
I'm sure someone already mentioned it but they turn without being bit because they all already have the virus, they literally are the "walking dead" just as much as the zombies are. The CDC scientist in the Season 1 finale explains it to Rick.
I've been watching these reactions for The Walking Dead! (I haven't watched any of the other shows you're reacting to yet. I don't want spoilers!) I have all the first 10 seasons on DVD and have seen them all a few times. I love it! It's extra fun seeing you two react to them!!!
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Can’t wait for the season 11 on DVD! Gotta immortalize this gold!
@@handsomeman9433 Absolutely!!!
You should watch Stranger Things, its fantastic
@@keeganwatt5209 eww, characters ain’t got shit like these ones do in TWD. Plus I’m more a fan of TWD’s unrealistic nature trying to be realistic while ST goes full blown fantasy.
Wow wow wow. It’s genuinely a sad one. Shane is what made season 1 and 2. Exceptional acting from John bernthal. Can’t wait for the finale Thursday!
Lori annoys me and I never liked Andrea. Both of them 🙄 I'd take Maggie any day.
This is amazing. I'm so used to people condemning shane. Your guys' ability to see all shoes on everyone's feet. Amazing thank you
The question at the beginning had me crying.
Trapped in a farm house surrounded by zombies with a shotgun with just one shell... who do I sleep with, Rick or Shane?
I cried laughing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Oooh I agree with Rob. If I can't say Daryl, then my fav at that time of the show was Maggie. First season that would be Glenn but he kinda faded for me in second season. Maggie is a gal with balls.
Edit: as for Andrea. IMO she has a chip on her shoulder. She's trying too hard to be a badass, she's arrogant in her opinions - like seen in Beth situation. She's also a very poor judge of character, siding with Shane this season, not gonna say whats next but yeah...
welcome to the beginning of the *real* characterization of Rick Grimes. killed his best friend. 9 more seasons to go, buckle up
This episode is amazing, can't wait to see y'all get into season 3 haha
Rob out here ensuring we don't violate copyrights with our imagination... lol.
I imagine you want to sleep with the person who's faster so you can do your thing and still escape the house.
I love watching your reactions. I watched the show when it was on TV and it is awesome to see it through the eyes of someone first time watching. No spoilers from me, but I am curious ... in your opinion ... whose story are you watching?
I'm not sure that Shane's trigger is Lori, maybe Dale's death, the only person who saw how he looked at Rick, he saw an opportunity and took it. He was planning for the murder some time.... Looking forward for the next episode 🤗
Shane has been trying to shoot his shot at killing RICK since season 1!! But someone or something always seem to interfere. He was going to kill Rick most definitely but his anger got The best of him because he knows the type of person Rick was.They was best friends on top of working together. He underestimated him, the writers said it on talking Dead that Shane would have killed Rick that night if He didn't kill him.
goodbye, Shane, the killer and the failed rapist (remember the end of season 1, right?) The next, final episode is a wild, classic zombie episode! I can't wait to see it!(By the way, tearing and gutting is a classic for the zombie genre. I'm glad we saw it in the last episode. I'm sorry, Dale.)
What a scene! Meadow, silence and moonlight in the foreground above Rick and Shane .....Betrayal..
Rob, What kind of question is that to ask poor Trin!?! LOL 😆
~Trin, totally caught me off guard 🤣🙈
I'm absolutely addicted to your reactions, man. Bravo.
Thank you so much 💖
Still to this day both Dale’s death and Shane’s death were the first character deaths to hit me hard Dale being the voice of reason and the moral compass in the group and all about having humanity is what’s right for us as human beings one of my favourites and Shane Rick’s best friend and right hand man until Daryl stepped up when he had to put down Dale Shane was another one of my favourites yeah I understand why Shane had to die was never suppose to happen but he had to I can tell that deep down Rick didn’t wanna kill his best friend but he had to Shane lost his mind there was no way out of that I just wish that they coulda worked things out and made up but sadly Rick killing Shane had to happen I’m sure this is gonna have a big impact on the group especially Rick because deep down he cared for him to this day I still miss Dale and Shane.
I've enjoyed your guys' reactions, but if I had one piece of constructive criticism it's that no matter what device I use to listen, phone, Bluetooth speakers, pc, TV, etc I can never hear the episode very well. Not because of talking over it or anything but because the volume of it appears to be much lower than your own. So while I have seen the show before its hard to piece together exact lines sometimes because they are so low. I know copyright issues and whatnot but I'd imagine that's why you black it out every few seconds, and being edited you don't even have the full episode being reacted to. So if possible, can we get a slight increase in volume of the episodes themselves?
Yeah no problem, thanks for letting us know. I can always hear the episode but would like to make it better for everyone
This was my first reaction with you guys, and I'm so glad I just found your channel. This is prob gonna be my new favorite!
Welcome aboard Jesse 🤗
LMAO at your survival scenario question to Trin!
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The seasons are 16 episodes each going forward including season 2 @Rob & Trin! I love love love your reactions!
Thank you so much
So excited for you two to see the next few seasons. They are especially amazing. I am so ready to hunker down and watch your journey with this show even further. Thanks guys!
The cinematography and screenwriting is genius. Just Rick and Shane in a field, the only noise besides them is crickets. It built so much tension and once Shane gets stabbed sad music starts playing
Rick going through one of, if not, the biggest trauma of his life:
Trin: "okay"
The answer to your question is Daryl.😙
The best lunch breaks are on the days you release a new TWD reaction. This was a big one. Shane went way too far. But that problem's out of the way. Why are people turning without getting bit?! 😱
Hopefully that herd doesn't hit the farm.
I know I’m very late but I’m loving your reactions to the show. I love how you guys dissect everything. Looking forward to the binge lol
Laurie gets a lot of hate. My favourite of all till the end isn't here yet. Character of the season? Hershal. 100%. You'll see why.
I'm a lover of Rick, my answer to your question is my Officer Friendly! *.* And I'm on season finale 11 :D
Shane keeps losing his: shit" and had to be put down like a rabid dog. I was very sad, but I felt a LOT of relief and the damn soap opera drama gone-again I'm not a fan of human drama-this show is an exception but in first watching, it this guy and I agree that we were not fans of the drama >< I love animal drama over human drama. Too much.
Rick is the MAN and Carl is...trying to be a man lol. But certainly, Shane was the loose cannon and Lori has bad timing, well to me she should have let well enough alone, but I get it as for me being female and as an individual, I linger on anything that bothers me and love to have closure. I can care too much and be gullible and sorta of forget how dangerous people can be and precarious a situation can be, trying to hope you tread softly or just go in cracking some eggs, lol.
But I can tell Lori has been wanting to get that off her chest, this triangle, this constant blame and badgering of Shane.
She should have did it a while back and by far she's finally, eating that humble pie far too late-I realize that she full of too much pride and is unyielding to her own faults-a bit of a narcissist -which I couldn't stand about her-she reminds me of my lovely mom ^.^ "Love you mom!!"
Rick's loving memories of his childhood friend and co-pilot officer "not so friendly" is gone by his own hands. He too was hanging on his relationship with Shane, thinking he can carry not only the burden as a leader but revive his friendship and faults of Shane. (Rick knew that Shane killed otis. If Were him I'd be self-medicating honestly. Thats just crazy. Shane is still a murder even more now.)
Your "who would you sleep with ?" question had me dying 🤣
If it were me I'd sleep with both of them ( not at the same time, lol) .Let's face it, early apocalypse Shane is sexy as he'll but after enjoying Shane it would be Rick forever! You just can't do any better than Rick all the way around! He's so damn perfectly imperfect but has the heart of a lion who would die for those he loves and risk it all to do what's right. Jk, it would just be Rick but you have to admit that John Bernthal ( Shane) is some kind of sexy 😉
I can't believe I'm re-watching you guys watching The Walking Dead, lol
Seasons 1 & 2 are my faves.
I will say, Lori gets on my last nerve sometimes, BUT I dont fault her for what she said to Shane, I just think it should have been said ALOT sooner.
Shane was too far gone at this point.
I miss the farm so much.
I can't believe they never revisited it as a group.
I was just sad for Rick that he had to take care of the problem of Shane. They had been best friends since childhood even.
Little Comic Comparison here Carl shooting Shane zombified was a similarity to the comic because in the comics Shane was already dead by this point in the comics Shane is killed pretty quickly just before they left the Atlanta camp Shane tries to kill Rick but then Carl shoots Shane dead alive saving Rick it’s great that TV Shane outlived his comic counterpart but it’s sad that we lost a great character I thought Jon Bernthal did a great job playing the role as Shane the actor went on to do different things I followed the actor after he was killed off here he went on to be in great movies and I loved him as Frank Castle/The Punisher in Marvel’s Netflix shows Daredevil Season 2 and The Punisher He mighta been an asshole at the end but deep down he’s still a human being that cared about Rick and the group i still miss Shane.
John Bernthal (Shane's actor) said he wanted something else to happen with the fight with Rick. Shane wanted to originally lead Rick away so that he would kill Shane. Shane wanted Rick to kill him so that he would become the man who is strong enough to survive in this world and protect his family. And how we would know this was, Rick would've picked up Shane's gun and go to fire the gun to kill Walker Shane and it would go click click*. The scene still can play like this if you watch it again with the idea of Shane wanting to die. The reason Shane wants to die is because he knows he is too far gone and the talk with Lori kinda sold that to Shane. Andrew Lincoln(Rick's actor) and John talked about this idea and they both loved it but the show runners decided to not include Rick picking up Shane's empty gun. John Bernthal said if you watch with that context it makes more sense anyways. You also see Shane taunting Rick saying he isn't man enough and I'm a better father.
Here's John Bernthal explaining it
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I liked Shane even tho he did some disgusting things his character is great sad to see him go and ricks reaction killed me so sad
Shane death is a case of poor writing decision. Made no sense.
@@mindelos1706 your comment doesn’t make sense
Yeah same! His death scene is definitely one of my favourite death scenes on TV though.
@@YT_FALLENXThats because you dont like my comment. I am sorry.
@@garythompsant1050 The best death scene is Sophias. From the small sneak peek when she steps a foot from the barn and the reveal as full zombie gets me everytime. Too bad from season 3 the characters are all canon food and you barely feel nothing when they die.
I've started re-watching again and up to s5, so excited for you to see up coming eps! I'm now saying "I can't wait for Rob & Trin to see that" lmao....
For me the question about Shane versus Rick and the one shotgun who would I sleep with thing is easy.
Rick.
But that's only because we know that Shane would probably use that one bullet in the shotgun to kill me rather than any zombies. Shane is way to volatile and undependable.
This will be a long comment because the scene between Rick and Shane is one of my favorite in television history and I have some things to share about it that I think is interesting. First of all the actor who plays Shane, Jon Bernthal, originally wanted it to be a case where Shane forced Rick to kill him and his gun was empty the whole time. He wanted the scene to play out similarly but after Shane is killed Rick tries to use Shane's gun on zombie Shane and realizes it's empty. Shane wanted Rick to become the man he thought he should be to protect Lori and Carl.
Another interesting detail in this scene is when Shane looks down at the knife and quickly looks at Rick and then back at the knife. Most people myself included took this to mean he was surprised that Rick actually stabbed him but that's not the case at all. What that look really meant is he was surprised Rick pulled the knife out of him because that essentially signed his death warrant. Although unlikely Shane could have possibly survived if Rick didn't pull the knife out so that's what that surprised look was.
Another interesting detail is if you watch the scene very carefully with the audio really high, you can make out some words that Shane says to Rick under his breath as he's gurgling on the ground he says very clearly "keep at it". If you don't believe me go watch the scene by itself on RUclips and listen very closely after Rick stabs him. I think this is just a small Easter egg that Shane's actor added into it and you're not actually meant to hear it.
In the end I agreed with Shane on most things. Randall should have been killed, the search for Sophia should have ended after a couple of days or a week at most, the barn Walkers needed to be killed, killing Otis saved Shane and Carl's life whereas not killing him they all three would have died. The one thing I could never agree with though is trying to kill your best friend and unfortunately that's what ended up getting him killed. I always wonder what would have happened if Shane had went with Rick to retrieve Herschel and had seen Rick put down those two guys. What would have happened if Lori hadn't played mind games and manipulated his emotions. Rick gave him every chance and then some to turn back and he just couldn't get over Lori and Carl. Also it's worth noting that Shane could have killed Rick at any time during that encounter but his love for Rick gave him the opportunity he needed. One last thing to note is that you can see Rick's subtle shift in his facial expressions after Shane says "You've got a broken woman. You've got a weak boy." I believe that was the moment he decided to kill Shane. That's also the moment where he stops talking to him as a friend and he begins talking to him like a police officer would with a criminal trying to talk him down as he brings up going back to Lori and Carl to get his gun away.
A very tragic situation and a very well-written character. Shane reaching for his friends face for comfort as he's dying and Rick grabbing his hand was very touching. Despite how they ended up they still cared for each other deeply. Rest in peace Shane Walsh
And also they knew it was a lie because in the background you can see Daryl ceiling up the part of the roof that carl climbed through
Only 2 more episodes this season… I’m like really really hoping you guys react to the season 3 trailer
rick v shane at the end loris fault
Yesss! Been waiting for this one. Loving these reactions bro 😎
Such an amazing journey ahead for the two of you. For sheer character development the Walking Dead is one of the best. Andrew Lincoln is such an incredible actor unafraid to show true raw emotion. The same for Jon Bernthal as Shane.
Wow, yeah I for one can tell you that it is extremely ehh… unfortunate that I know what the future brings. (Though I’ll never speak such future👌). Also to note, season 2 takes place in 2-3 weeks, season 1 was a certain handful of days.
Think season 2 is a little bit longer than that considering Carl's gun shot wound is completely healed but it get your point 👍
@@Skutten eh, might be 5 weeks. Sheesh
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Oh this is gonna be a good one, thank you two so much Rob & Trin
That shot of Rick heading into the woods for Randall was sexy 😅
In this show, what you think will happen.. it probably won’t happen! 😂 I loved Shane, after seen other episodes, I always think about how he would handle it better but, that’s all I can say. 🤐 😂😂 are we increasing to 3 episodes a week? 😂😂 I’m glad you guys are hooked! 😁 your questions will be answered soon 😂😂🤐🤐🤐🤐 DARYL = Loyalty!
They shot a version of the final scene in which it turned out Shane's gun wasn't loaded - the idea being that he was goading Rick into killing him with the intention of turning Rick into who Shane thought he needed to be. I don't think that fully worked with what else we saw, so I can see why they dropped it, but it was an interesting idea. Heart-warming aside Jeffrey De Munn, who played Dale and was no longer in Georgia when this episode was shot, flew down specially just to be on set for Jon Bernthal's final day. And no doubt to go out for the meal that had already become a tradition when someone is killed off...
Also worth noting that AMC's marketing department notoriously spoiled this episode by running ads about "Shane's last episode of the Walking Dead" before it aired. And, as it the way with such things, a huge number of people who were pissed off about that ending up spoiling it for other people by complaining and drawing attention to it...
the intro killed me, i was caught so off guard lmao
Shane was the devil in Rick's ear, and Dale was the angel in his other ear.
Love your TWD reviews.
Loving the reactions and these night episodes are some of my favorite in the show!
This episode killed me inside for 3 weeks I was literally depressed lol
Welcome to the herd. Lol.
Please never get spoiled.
You guys are awesome.
Another wonderful reaction . Such a great episode
Hi, guys. I'm from Brazil, and I'm learning English with you. 😁 Your reaction is the besttt. 🤗
Awesome! Thank you!🤗
Omg! I just love your reaction!
This is one of the episodes i qas waiting for of the many to come. But season 2 focused on people and their humanity and survival, and everything, with walkers being the distraction. Excellent writing in this season, im ready for the s3 rollercoaster reactions
I love your after show discussions -the character development on this show is almost unmatched. And I love when Rick has little moments like cocking his gun on the way to look for Randall - he's such a badass.