I was in management and gave my boss 1 month notice as a courtesy, didnt have anything lined up so i figured save money, ease the transition be a good person, my boss said that wasnt necessary and bitterly cut me down to 1 week before kicking me out. I was a loyal employee for yrs
I ONLY think it’s valuable in your first jobs so you can use them as a reference in the future or jobs that are related to your dream job . But random jobs that you didn’t enjoy it should not matter
Some bridges just don't deserve to be left standing. Others do. It depends from job to job and from situation to situation. In Europe, almost any job contract has a notice period in writing that most of the times goes both ways (the ones who don't are low balls, so stay away), so it's already known. Usually it's between 2 to 4 weeks.
Well in the UK your breaking your contract of employment if you don’t serve your notice which can be up to 3 months You also risk not getting a reference which some new employers will class as essential before making you an offer. I cannot understand the big fuss when you have such a small notice period of 2 weeks
Just quit if you hate the job. They'll be okay and you don't have to feel guilty about leaving a workplace that makes you miserable. I just did and I feel so free.
@samsong samsong same I stayed for a whole month for one of my coworkers so she can get her college stuff together and help me find somebody because we’re under staff but honestly I should have been out the door last December
@@shutit4024 I’m in a similar situation. I’m putting in my two weeks today and I’m intending on completing my two weeks at the benefit of SOME of my beloved coworkers who I don’t want to have super stressful jobs. Honestly, there is no honesty and very little positivity in my work place and the thought of those last two weeks makes me nauseous.
@@jessicadelgado8473 thankfully I’m done with my 2 weeks but it’s a very nice thing for you to do, I ended up getting somebody to replace me and have more hours then me I have gave the new girl the heads up on some things but not too much , somebody else from my job is leaving soon because my job just loves putting down people that are full time hours to part time
I’m not doing a two week notice, these jobs hardly ever care enough to give you one so oh well. Once I start to hate a job to the point where I truly want to quit, I’m not staying any longer. I’ll just be done with it.
I’ve been trying to quit for over two months, they told me that I should stay ‘at least’ until they find a replacement. That was over a month ago. There’s still no replacement. Seeing the other comments here, I realize I’ve been way wayyyy to generous.
@@gracealexandragonzalez7022 more like peer pressure and a forced guilt-trip by the managers, and the fear of being rang 24/7 even after I quit. Which happened, by the way, for a whole two weeks because the replacement turned out to be incompetent 😂 (I only started answering them out of pity, before I realized they don’t plan on letting up anytime soon, so I just stopped answering) 🥲
Yah most jobs are understaffed don’t ever let them pull that card. And the fact that they are comes to show something is wrong with the way things are ran
Never do it period. When they fire you or lay you off, I promise you they won’t give you a two week notice. They kick you out the same day, same second and if you don’t leave they will have you escorted out by security or the cops. And burn the bridge crispy than fried chicken
Good. I don’t either cuz I know when they fire me or lay me off, they’re not giving me a “two week notice”. So why extend that common courtesy. They will burn the bridge with me too afterward, so I’ll burn it crispy than fried chicken.
Corporate and HR doesn't appreciate honesty and will use it against you. Unfortunately I've had better result by lying in whatever corporate lexicon they prefer. Sad but true.
Yea it's super sad. They usually hire seemingly approachable and personable people to play a role just to draw you in. Lost a good friend recently to that. I was really naive to think she had my best interests professionally in mind
I was a supervisor and making the schedule and we were anticipating a weekend of short staffed. My supervisor told me I need to decline a few peoples request for time off and my colleague told her that I’d rather be short staffed one weekend and make my employees happy than make them quit and be short staffed for weeks/months.
Same reason I’m leaving my job - I’ve had the same schedule for 3 years, all of a sudden they changed my schedule with no previous conversation or notice. When I asked to go back to my old schedule or at least more similar to it they said no :(
This is coming from the stand point that management is always impartial, dignified and honest. Issue is that this is NOT always the case. As it holds true that not all employees hold up to established standards, the same can be with management. Work place bullying is a real phenomenon, where incompetent management works to derail and sabotage promising employees that threaten their sense of power. These are often undiagnosed, malignant, cluster B personality disordered individuals that have snaked their way to higher ranks. These kind of people dont deserve hard working employees, and in fact should be fired themselves, but typically wont as too many people turn a blind eye or are just not aware enough of these personalities disorders.
Dude this is my position right now. The managers bully me and other employees and I’m trying to leave by today without ever coming back or staying another 2 weeks
Suavecito yea get out of there. You’re way better than that. It was hard for me to leave at first and I was really bummed about losing my job, but months later, I began to think clearly and see how they were just keeping me pinned down there. You’ll find something better, might take some time, but you will.
Suavecito well, probably best that you just don’t walk out, unless it’s really that bad to where it’s affecting your health. Try to be as professional as possible, as one day you may need to get reference from them (I’m assuming you’ve got at least one person who’s have your back? I ended up getting references at my old job and they were more than happy to, but I also didn’t storm out. Do what you think feels right, but try not to completely burn bridges.
Great talk. I don't want to lose any single one of my employees (and I really hope they never want to leave, either), but it's good to be thinking about this as the business grows. Practically, though, I had a bit of a light-bulb moment watching this, and I think I'm going to do away with "performance reviews," which have always felt cold and artificial to me. Instead, I'll set up quarterly meetings to talk to my team members and ask them how satisfied they are with their jobs and what we as a company can do better to support them.
I'm right in the middle of reading Fierce Conversations by Susan Scott, M.D. Want to transform those quarterly meetings and improve your life and the lives of those around you? Check out that book!
As an employee, and manager in past jobs, try try try to make it personal. I just had a "quarterly mtg" with a manager, who is nice, and it was completely form-driven. He let it slip in the "meeting" that recently one of the locations was 1 vote away from becoming a union shop, and that corporate was really trying to keep away from that....so I gathered that the actual reason for the new initiative was not a ground-swell, but a corporate directive that HAD TO BE done. Box checked, send the minions back out to minion. It felt quite impersonal, and if the managers are to be of help, that needs to change.
If you know someone who put in their 2 weeks notice, but the company didn’t approve it and fired them right away, don’t give ‘em a 2 weeks notice when you quit.
If a manager or owner says the words family or team, RUN!!! A family doesn't cut ties until they have to. A team that never cuts a player over bad performance, is not a team. Too many owners allow managers to make personal terminations and not enough performance related terminations. If an employer says that business is down, but we are going to carry everyone through this, don't believe them. Truth is, the only people that carry anyone, are the people doing the work. As a manager, you got to get it right. If you must make cuts, you must get the low performers.
I worked at an Albertsons grocery store for two months after leaving a fast food job. I thought it it was going to be better but it was the same mess. I got hired by a local state grocery store five minutes away from my house. I put in my two weeks at Albertsons but they ignored me. After telling them once more, they became petty and took all my hours away and only gave me one day. My current job is the best with managers that treat you like a brother. Big corporations typically don't care for thier employees.
Big corporations are the worst. I just got hired at a privately own business in insurance and I have so much support there. My previous job was with Target, but the environment got toxic 4 month into being hired. My coworkers began slacking off, I was insulted one day by my boss for working slower than normal after having a miscarriage earlier in the morning and still showing up to work at night. Management needs to be better trained, they don't assume the role of leaders instead they are dictators using fear to control employees. My biggest concern is that some employees suffer depression and a managers bullying can cause an employee to potentially self harm or worse.
The thing about invisible barriers is if the employer doesn't like you to begin with they're going to say bad things about you anyway may as well just blow the bridge up by using TNT.
Companies ultimately don't value or care about their employees. We're seen as replaceable, and if companies can cut corners to make an extra buck at the expense of their employees, you better believe they will. With that type of mentality, that we the employees are highly disposable, it's foolish to expect loyalty.
Companies have fired or laid off workers with a few minutes notice. It took workers a few decades to notice they have no loyalty or care for employees. Now workers are doing the same back to employers
No employer has ever asked me if I was happy at any of the firms I've worked for. And if anyone asked, the answer would be, "of course I'm happy." I like to have money to pay for things and invest.
yes. One time I had a job where my manager took me off the schedule without letting me know. I just suddenly didn't see my name and no other manager knew why. I later called the GM and she didn't even have a good reason. I honestly think she didn't like me. I worked there for 3 months. PANERA.
I had a job that became unsatisfying, I started taking things from my desk back home little by little so I only brought just what I needed. I could leave in ten minutes if necessary by doing that. One day I got pushed too far..I already gathered everything I needed. I headed to lunch... put everything in the trunk, walked in ordered an appetizer and a beer..and then another and another...I just never went back to that place. That was my notice.
We can be kind and give a 3 week notice and then they tell you not to come back right then and there despite them desperately needing a replacement. This happened to my mom AND my step dad. They’d been at their old job for years and were very loyal, when they decided to switch jobs due to a better income they were both told not to come back. This is both in the banking market and industrial market. I can not feel “bad” for giving a longer notice because if I get fired, I am not getting a two week notice for this. I understand and respect your point of view but not everyone has a heart like yours.
Well this went the wrong way 😂 😂, I’m here actually thinking it was going to talk about why we should just Quit with No notice. Be like here’s my id batch , goodbye 😂. I don’t like to leave any doors open because once I leave somewhere I am NOT going back .
It depends on the situation, if you want to leave a company on good terms, then you should give notice before leaving. This will give them time to plan for the work and in return, they should provide you with a good reference. Leaving immediately should be done only in an extreme circumstance imo. But ultimately the choice is yours.
Who cares what businesses want. This is my life, if I’m not happy I’m not happy and imma do something about it, like quit. I’ve literally been looking for a second job for about 5 months now got hired at more than 10 places and have quit all of them including no showing, interviews and first or second days. I don’t think businesses are ready for gen z.
did you just walk out and never come back again?? i just saw started a new job at lowes and i just don’t like the environment, it’s too much for me. it’s also my first job and it’s draining. i’m actually going to a hiring fair at walmart tmr during my lunch break and i really just wanna walk out and not tell them i’m quitting, literally just walk out after punching out. i’m a little scared of just leaving but girlll, i dot. wanna work a single second there anymore. i’m done and i’m probably a little weak for that but idc, i literally stress over my job. i hate it.
Great talk "meaninfull work" really resognated with me, as recent graduate. I got three raises in my current job, but i suspect it was because in the time i have been here. There has been constant turnover in employees. Within 1 year they hired and fired 8 people. I left to a firm with same pay, but much more modern life /work balance
I like what this man represents alot. However him and his company are like a needle in a million haystacks. Sears needs to see this and take HEED PoS company
Last time I checked a job is a privilege it's not a right. You don't have to go to work if you don't want to. Nobody tells you wake up get out of bed and go to work. It's your choice. If you feel miserable at a job your best bet is to not go.
The example of a relationship is simply not right. In a relationship you and your partner are equal. If you own 0% of the company you work for, and have an employer who decides for you, you are simply not equal and do not owe that degree of openness.
This is all fine and dandy but out here in the real world where bosses have egos or are down right sociopaths, it ain't going to go down anything like he's describing.
I was forced to turn down 3 excellent paying jobs because the first employer was in the final process of hiring me. Never again! Employers will screw your life over in a heartbeat. Sometimes it first come first taken, other times its sorry to give you the shaft after you promised to hire but I found a better company to work for. If employers snooze they lose.
My boss promised a promotion then didn't give it to me. So I started looking for another job and he gave me a thinly veiled threat that he would make me an enemy if we crossed paths again in the same industry.
Interesting approach to a difficult situation Robert. I've always believed that you should be good to people when they leave, because you never know when your paths may cross again. This takes it a step further. Towards the end you comment on the general decline in civility in society. I think it could be fascinating to explore this topic more broadly in the context of other opportunity areas for businesses in their relationships with employees, customers and other stakeholders. A final note to whoever manages the staging of these events. You could tell from the audience reactions that there were a decent number people in attendance, but whenever the camera was flipped to the audience, they showed a largely empty section of the room, which leaves a poor impression.
I completely agree with you. What kind of person wants to burn bridges. I have always showed my employers and now employees respect and friends with many of them years later. You have to be able to respect the guy in the mirror which is hard when you burned your coworkers.
Grass is not often greener & sadly employees move on... at times u really wish some leaders would care enough to make a difference and you’re just not another number in a large organization...
Watching this as I am about to give my two-week notice. I am only doing it because I like my manager but I am so done with these overworked low paying jobs. BYE!
If it’s a bigger organization with tons of people like a call center or a warehouse then I get it. But on a construction site, or if you’re in management or play a key role then notice is pretty important.
I understand what you're saying and communication is important and it's nice to give notice. However, in management, construction or any place where you play a key role, God forbid if you were to die tomorrow, they would quickly pivot and do what they needed to in order to cover your work or get in a replacement. The sooner you realize this, the better off you'll be in protecting yourself in workplace situations. Give notice if you want to maintain relationship or decorum with your previous employer. If you do not, move forward quickly and keep in mind you are always replaceable.
Depends on the job. If it's a throwaway factory job or something that fires everyone than obviously no. But if it's a smaller place and you were treated even half decent than just tough it out and do the two weeks if they let you, even if the pay is low. This is especially important in smaller towns where word of mouth goes around.
100% agree with you the lack of humility in the united states job sector appalling. the mangers have to be trained on how to treat people because there are mostly to blame for toxic work environments.
I really like the idea of this, but depends upon the company. If you have a great boss and company and it's time to move on I certainly think it's fine to be more lenient. If it's a bad work environment, may just be time to go.
I just wonder, is there some law in USA that forbids to add longer termination periods to employment contracts ? the periods themself are symetrical - which is good. if you as employer propose to contract to leavefire at will, why are you dissatisfied when this contract is used by other side ?
I am really struggling. I thought I’d be with my company for life. I worked hard to be in management. Transferred to a new state with my job and in just a month the work life has gotten worse. Mentally I have been drained even more then I was before. I cry EVERYDAY. Told my boss a week ago I want to move up and now this week I want to quit!
What do you do if your employer tells you that they are super happy with your performance but then tells you 3 months later that your underperforming ?
I respect a lot of his opinions but flipping around an employer can fire somebody on a Friday evening after all the work is done or before a holiday and with no notice or severance package companies can’t expect two week notice is if most companies can’t be respectful in the reverse situation
I have mixed feelings about what this guy is selling. If a person works in a hostile, unsafe or toxic environment I'm sympathetic to those who quit on the spot. However I've experienced many people who quit without notice not even slightly concerned about the ripple effects their decision caused. The rest of us who stick around end up having to pick up the slack you left. I believe in the long run, the best policy is to provide a 2 week notice and leave the job with respect and dignity even is even if your supervisor or the job culture doesn't necessarily deserve it. Character matters.
Utilize the ripple effect sent down to the employees still there, ask yourself "why did my coworker leave so abruptly" Hopefully it'll make you question that if it was a toxic enough environment to make them leave like that, why are you still there?
employer: We want employees to be excited about work and leave better than when they walked in the door. Me: baseball sized knot in my arm, severe sciatica, and depression from not seeing my family. "Please just kill me already"
Why should an employee give a two weeks notice to the employer, when the employer don't give the employee two weeks they fired you. In other words they will fire you right away there and then.
The 2 week notice thing will die off with the boomers, everyone bashes millennials, but as a guy almost 50 years old I love the way they changed the one sided work culture in this country. I will never give a two week notice ever again, been laid off without any notice enough times to never extend a courtesy to billion dollar corporations that is never extended to me.
Instead of understanding my stress the hr kept it short and asked if I pu lt my 2 weeks noticed and acted buthurt and and said goodbye and was mad for me not bringing it up
I actually like being courteous (: I'm putting in a 2 weeks notice for an amazing job that I'm leaving for another more amazing job I just got an offer for.
well good for you yoir situation sounds a whole lot easier than most . Try being in a extremely toxic environment where your employers don't respect you or care for you and then tell me how courteous you like being .:)
It is, but it still isn’t something you owe them or have to do. Many people leave without notice because they don’t feel valued at their job, in that case who cares about being polite.
If an employer can fire me without notice, I should be able to quit without notice.
I agree
Exactly 👏 👏 👏
Yep, this guy is clearly a CEO making 7 or 8 figures and has no clue what normal people deal with in the work place.
That’s why I don’t give out two week notice that’s laughable.
I was in management and gave my boss 1 month notice as a courtesy, didnt have anything lined up so i figured save money, ease the transition be a good person, my boss said that wasnt necessary and bitterly cut me down to 1 week before kicking me out. I was a loyal employee for yrs
People are obsessed with 2 weeks notice and "don't burn the bridge", "leave gracefully"... We are so freaking brainwashed
I ONLY think it’s valuable in your first jobs so you can use them as a reference in the future or jobs that are related to your dream job . But random jobs that you didn’t enjoy it should not matter
Yeah and plus if you do ask a 2 weeks notice you can use those two weeks to find smother job as well
@@AlexGarcia-yp6ov yes ! It’s a good idea if you need to set something else up for sure
Some bridges just don't deserve to be left standing. Others do. It depends from job to job and from situation to situation. In Europe, almost any job contract has a notice period in writing that most of the times goes both ways (the ones who don't are low balls, so stay away), so it's already known. Usually it's between 2 to 4 weeks.
Well in the UK your breaking your contract of employment if you don’t serve your notice which can be up to 3 months
You also risk not getting a reference which some new employers will class as essential before making you an offer.
I cannot understand the big fuss when you have such a small notice period of 2 weeks
Just quit if you hate the job. They'll be okay and you don't have to feel guilty about leaving a workplace that makes you miserable.
I just did and I feel so free.
Close to doing this.
I did it. I put in my two week notice a week ago. My last day is on Nov. 15. I’m nervous but excited about my new career that I will be pursuing.
I’m about to
If there was a basic income to cover you, it might be easier.
I already quitted but my manager made me to give one month notice. I have to go there for 25 more days 😭
But seriously, if my employer didn't make me feel like a priority why should I do them the courtesy of a two week notice?
They won't give you a two weeks notice when they fire you.
Especially if it’s “at will” employment. If the environment is toxic, why risk more of your mental health?
@samsong samsong same I stayed for a whole month for one of my coworkers so she can get her college stuff together and help me find somebody because we’re under staff but honestly I should have been out the door last December
@@shutit4024 I’m in a similar situation. I’m putting in my two weeks today and I’m intending on completing my two weeks at the benefit of SOME of my beloved coworkers who I don’t want to have super stressful jobs. Honestly, there is no honesty and very little positivity in my work place and the thought of those last two weeks makes me nauseous.
@@jessicadelgado8473 thankfully I’m done with my 2 weeks but it’s a very nice thing for you to do, I ended up getting somebody to replace me and have more hours then me I have gave the new girl the heads up on some things but not too much , somebody else from my job is leaving soon because my job just loves putting down people that are full time hours to part time
I’m not doing a two week notice, these jobs hardly ever care enough to give you one so oh well. Once I start to hate a job to the point where I truly want to quit, I’m not staying any longer. I’ll just be done with it.
I’ve been trying to quit for over two months, they told me that I should stay ‘at least’ until they find a replacement. That was over a month ago. There’s still no replacement. Seeing the other comments here, I realize I’ve been way wayyyy to generous.
Time to bounce!! Don't let anyone control your life. Good luck!
Waaaaaaaaaay!
I don't understand, is there a law in your country that forces you to stay?
@@gracealexandragonzalez7022 more like peer pressure and a forced guilt-trip by the managers, and the fear of being rang 24/7 even after I quit. Which happened, by the way, for a whole two weeks because the replacement turned out to be incompetent 😂 (I only started answering them out of pity, before I realized they don’t plan on letting up anytime soon, so I just stopped answering) 🥲
Yah most jobs are understaffed don’t ever let them pull that card. And the fact that they are comes to show something is wrong with the way things are ran
Two weeks notice is a courtesy. You don't have to do it if you are never coming back or are not asking for references.
Exactly….
Exactly 😂
10 / 10
Facts a courtesy
Never do it period. When they fire you or lay you off, I promise you they won’t give you a two week notice. They kick you out the same day, same second and if you don’t leave they will have you escorted out by security or the cops. And burn the bridge crispy than fried chicken
I don't give a two weeks notice only because I like to take a vacation before I start a new job.
I like that idea
Exactly my plan!
savage
Good. I don’t either cuz I know when they fire me or lay me off, they’re not giving me a “two week notice”. So why extend that common courtesy. They will burn the bridge with me too afterward, so I’ll burn it crispy than fried chicken.
Just quit my current job for almost twice as much pay and my boss still got mad and acted like im making a huge mistake lol
lol
The art of manipulation
Of course he would be mad, he was exploiting your labor and now he has to actually do some work! Good 4 u brotha
😂😂😂
They are getting a 2 minute notice from me.
Period!!🤣🤣🤣
U Go Gir!!
Lmaooo- and a never coming back notice from me 💀
@Michael Elam my shift was 4-12 I quit 4:02
@Michael That's a 8 hour notice lol
Corporate and HR doesn't appreciate honesty and will use it against you. Unfortunately I've had better result by lying in whatever corporate lexicon they prefer. Sad but true.
Yea it's super sad. They usually hire seemingly approachable and personable people to play a role just to draw you in. Lost a good friend recently to that. I was really naive to think she had my best interests professionally in mind
Amber Binderup sorry to hear Amber. I dont think you were naive though. We cant let the world jade us . Good for you for thinking more of that person
Sadly this you say it's true.
Just happen to me. They're only looking to make the job filled with someone y they bs u
I'm a management guru. One key to keeping employees, pay them well.
Also treat them well. Without well treatment, pay is insignificant
I going STOP lying and cheating !!!
I was a supervisor and making the schedule and we were anticipating a weekend of short staffed. My supervisor told me I need to decline a few peoples request for time off and my colleague told her that I’d rather be short staffed one weekend and make my employees happy than make them quit and be short staffed for weeks/months.
@@123SriNat that’s Right!!!!!
I asked for a change in my schedule. The answer was no. No negotiation, no discussion. After 15 years!!! So I gave my notice.
Same reason I’m leaving my job - I’ve had the same schedule for 3 years, all of a sudden they changed my schedule with no previous conversation or notice. When I asked to go back to my old schedule or at least more similar to it they said no :(
@@jayschaff makes you realize they give no 'shits' about you...
They will NOTICE when I stop showing up.
This is coming from the stand point that management is always impartial, dignified and honest. Issue is that this is NOT always the case. As it holds true that not all employees hold up to established standards, the same can be with management. Work place bullying is a real phenomenon, where incompetent management works to derail and sabotage promising employees that threaten their sense of power. These are often undiagnosed, malignant, cluster B personality disordered individuals that have snaked their way to higher ranks. These kind of people dont deserve hard working employees, and in fact should be fired themselves, but typically wont as too many people turn a blind eye or are just not aware enough of these personalities disorders.
Dude this is my position right now. The managers bully me and other employees and I’m trying to leave by today without ever coming back or staying another 2 weeks
Suavecito yea get out of there. You’re way better than that. It was hard for me to leave at first and I was really bummed about losing my job, but months later, I began to think clearly and see how they were just keeping me pinned down there. You’ll find something better, might take some time, but you will.
Paul T thank you man 🙏🏻 but how do I leave today? I’m omw t work rn but what do I say? I work at a fast food place
Suavecito well, probably best that you just don’t walk out, unless it’s really that bad to where it’s affecting your health. Try to be as professional as possible, as one day you may need to get reference from them (I’m assuming you’ve got at least one person who’s have your back? I ended up getting references at my old job and they were more than happy to, but I also didn’t storm out. Do what you think feels right, but try not to completely burn bridges.
🗣Preach Paul! Perfectly explained.
Why would an employee give a notice? It's not like they give you a 2 weeks' notice before they fire you...
"Id like to put in my two weeks notice, effective two weeks ago"
Great talk. I don't want to lose any single one of my employees (and I really hope they never want to leave, either), but it's good to be thinking about this as the business grows. Practically, though, I had a bit of a light-bulb moment watching this, and I think I'm going to do away with "performance reviews," which have always felt cold and artificial to me. Instead, I'll set up quarterly meetings to talk to my team members and ask them how satisfied they are with their jobs and what we as a company can do better to support them.
I'm right in the middle of reading Fierce Conversations by Susan Scott, M.D. Want to transform those quarterly meetings and improve your life and the lives of those around you? Check out that book!
As an employee, and manager in past jobs, try try try to make it personal. I just had a "quarterly mtg" with a manager, who is nice, and it was completely form-driven. He let it slip in the "meeting" that recently one of the locations was 1 vote away from becoming a union shop, and that corporate was really trying to keep away from that....so I gathered that the actual reason for the new initiative was not a ground-swell, but a corporate directive that HAD TO BE done. Box checked, send the minions back out to minion. It felt quite impersonal, and if the managers are to be of help, that needs to change.
This here is what I’m talking about, he basically summed up how I always felt about management, leaders, HR etc. you got to take care of your people💯
Fk a two weeks you find something better you find something better that was the purpose of searching in the first place
Don’t quit just finish your day and then use all your sick days. When you return use up your pto time completely and then disappear forever!
Or just quit and take that pto as a paycheck and move on .
If you know someone who put in their 2 weeks notice, but the company didn’t approve it and fired them right away, don’t give ‘em a 2 weeks notice when you quit.
Exactly why I never give 2 week notice
If a manager or owner says the words family or team, RUN!!! A family doesn't cut ties until they have to. A team that never cuts a player over bad performance, is not a team. Too many owners allow managers to make personal terminations and not enough performance related terminations. If an employer says that business is down, but we are going to carry everyone through this, don't believe them. Truth is, the only people that carry anyone, are the people doing the work. As a manager, you got to get it right. If you must make cuts, you must get the low performers.
I worked at an Albertsons grocery store for two months after leaving a fast food job. I thought it it was going to be better but it was the same mess. I got hired by a local state grocery store five minutes away from my house. I put in my two weeks at Albertsons but they ignored me. After telling them once more, they became petty and took all my hours away and only gave me one day. My current job is the best with managers that treat you like a brother. Big corporations typically don't care for thier employees.
Big corporations are the worst. I just got hired at a privately own business in insurance and I have so much support there. My previous job was with Target, but the environment got toxic 4 month into being hired. My coworkers began slacking off, I was insulted one day by my boss for working slower than normal after having a miscarriage earlier in the morning and still showing up to work at night. Management needs to be better trained, they don't assume the role of leaders instead they are dictators using fear to control employees. My biggest concern is that some employees suffer depression and a managers bullying can cause an employee to potentially self harm or worse.
True you are just a number
The thing about invisible barriers is if the employer doesn't like you to begin with they're going to say bad things about you anyway may as well just blow the bridge up by using TNT.
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Companies ultimately don't value or care about their employees. We're seen as replaceable, and if companies can cut corners to make an extra buck at the expense of their employees, you better believe they will. With that type of mentality, that we the employees are highly disposable, it's foolish to expect loyalty.
I just quit my job on the spot today 🤷🏽♀️
I feel like my boss needs to watch this.
Yes
Mine too!
Mmmmmmmm hmmmmmm
Companies have fired or laid off workers with a few minutes notice. It took workers a few decades to notice they have no loyalty or care for employees. Now workers are doing the same back to employers
No employer has ever asked me if I was happy at any of the firms I've worked for. And if anyone asked, the answer would be, "of course I'm happy." I like to have money to pay for things and invest.
Considering a company can fire you with no notice (and function quite well), why should a worker pay the company the same courtesy?
yes. One time I had a job where my manager took me off the schedule without letting me know. I just suddenly didn't see my name and no other manager knew why. I later called the GM and she didn't even have a good reason. I honestly think she didn't like me. I worked there for 3 months. PANERA.
Exactly why I never give two week notices
No 2-week notice nor exit interview from me. When done, done.
I had a job that became unsatisfying, I started taking things from my desk back home little by little so I only brought just what I needed. I could leave in ten minutes if necessary by doing that.
One day I got pushed too far..I already gathered everything I needed. I headed to lunch... put everything in the trunk, walked in ordered an appetizer and a beer..and then another and another...I just never went back to that place. That was my notice.
They will notice when I leave
Same I’m just gonna clean all my work clothes make sure it smells good iron it and give it to them and get my check and go.
I’m already going to clean my shirts fold them up and put ‘em in a bag.
Just throw em in the storage closet where know one will care about them
We can be kind and give a 3 week notice and then they tell you not to come back right then and there despite them desperately needing a replacement. This happened to my mom AND my step dad.
They’d been at their old job for years and were very loyal, when they decided to switch jobs due to a better income they were both told not to come back. This is both in the banking market and industrial market. I can not feel “bad” for giving a longer notice because if I get fired,
I am not getting a two week notice for this.
I understand and respect your point of view but not everyone has a heart like yours.
Well this went the wrong way 😂 😂, I’m here actually thinking it was going to talk about why we should just Quit with No notice. Be like here’s my id batch , goodbye 😂. I don’t like to leave any doors open because once I leave somewhere I am NOT going back .
Yea if the 2 weeks notice is to keep the door open on a job I hate I gotta wonder why I'd ever plan on returning. Who does that??
I left on a Monday got hired on a new job Wednesday. F your two weeks notice.
Same
It depends on the situation, if you want to leave a company on good terms, then you should give notice before leaving. This will give them time to plan for the work and in return, they should provide you with a good reference. Leaving immediately should be done only in an extreme circumstance imo. But ultimately the choice is yours.
Who cares what businesses want. This is my life, if I’m not happy I’m not happy and imma do something about it, like quit. I’ve literally been looking for a second job for about 5 months now got hired at more than 10 places and have quit all of them including no showing, interviews and first or second days. I don’t think businesses are ready for gen z.
did you just walk out and never come back again?? i just saw started a new job at lowes and i just don’t like the environment, it’s too much for me. it’s also my first job and it’s draining. i’m actually going to a hiring fair at walmart tmr during my lunch break and i really just wanna walk out and not tell them i’m quitting, literally just walk out after punching out. i’m a little scared of just leaving but girlll, i dot. wanna work a single second there anymore. i’m done and i’m probably a little weak for that but idc, i literally stress over my job. i hate it.
Bob - great talk. It is no shock to see your amazing GlassDoor ratings, which are just off the hook.
Great talk "meaninfull work" really resognated with me, as recent graduate. I got three raises in my current job, but i suspect it was because in the time i have been here. There has been constant turnover in employees. Within 1 year they hired and fired 8 people. I left to a firm with same pay, but much more modern life /work balance
Congratulations, this is how a business should be run.
Benevolence is more profitable than malevolence.
Employers looking at this video like 👁👄👁
My whole position is all states are quit and fire at will. Nobody owes nobody anything.
On the contract it states that you are an employee at will. Well they are too.
I like what this man represents alot.
However him and his company are like a needle in a million haystacks.
Sears needs to see this and take HEED
PoS company
I gave 30 days notice because I liked my boss and workers.
Went back a couple months later, they wouldn't look at me.
Last time I checked a job is a privilege it's not a right. You don't have to go to work if you don't want to. Nobody tells you wake up get out of bed and go to work. It's your choice. If you feel miserable at a job your best bet is to not go.
Agreed, don't share your misery with happy people.
The example of a relationship is simply not right. In a relationship you and your partner are equal. If you own 0% of the company you work for, and have an employer who decides for you, you are simply not equal and do not owe that degree of openness.
These are great ideas for any company that really want to know. Most don't. They would really rather not know.
This is all fine and dandy but out here in the real world where bosses have egos or are down right sociopaths, it ain't going to go down anything like he's describing.
So true
Blurring the line between personal and business right out the gate, well done Ted
I was forced to turn down 3 excellent paying jobs because the first employer was in the final process of hiring me. Never again!
Employers will screw your life over in a heartbeat. Sometimes it first come first taken, other times its sorry to give you the shaft after you promised to hire but I found a better company to work for. If employers snooze they lose.
My boss promised a promotion then didn't give it to me. So I started looking for another job and he gave me a thinly veiled threat that he would make me an enemy if we crossed paths again in the same industry.
Follow him home and wave
@@youngkwak9931 lmao😂😂😂
Interesting approach to a difficult situation Robert. I've always believed that you should be good to people when they leave, because you never know when your paths may cross again. This takes it a step further. Towards the end you comment on the general decline in civility in society. I think it could be fascinating to explore this topic more broadly in the context of other opportunity areas for businesses in their relationships with employees, customers and other stakeholders.
A final note to whoever manages the staging of these events. You could tell from the audience reactions that there were a decent number people in attendance, but whenever the camera was flipped to the audience, they showed a largely empty section of the room, which leaves a poor impression.
I completely agree with you. What kind of person wants to burn bridges. I have always showed my employers and now employees respect and friends with many of them years later. You have to be able to respect the guy in the mirror which is hard when you burned your coworkers.
@ghost robles plenty of times.
Grass is not often greener & sadly employees move on... at times u really wish some leaders would care enough to make a difference and you’re just not another number in a large organization...
Watching this as I am about to give my two-week notice. I am only doing it because I like my manager but I am so done with these overworked low paying jobs. BYE!
If it’s a bigger organization with tons of people like a call center or a warehouse then I get it. But on a construction site, or if you’re in management or play a key role then notice is pretty important.
I understand what you're saying and communication is important and it's nice to give notice. However, in management, construction or any place where you play a key role, God forbid if you were to die tomorrow, they would quickly pivot and do what they needed to in order to cover your work or get in a replacement. The sooner you realize this, the better off you'll be in protecting yourself in workplace situations. Give notice if you want to maintain relationship or decorum with your previous employer. If you do not, move forward quickly and keep in mind you are always replaceable.
I gave a one-month notice and they were mad at me.
Depends on the job. If it's a throwaway factory job or something that fires everyone than obviously no. But if it's a smaller place and you were treated even half decent than just tough it out and do the two weeks if they let you, even if the pay is low. This is especially important in smaller towns where word of mouth goes around.
100% agree with you the lack of humility in the united states job sector appalling. the mangers have to be trained on how to treat people because there are mostly to blame for toxic work environments.
I really like the idea of this, but depends upon the company. If you have a great boss and company and it's time to move on I certainly think it's fine to be more lenient. If it's a bad work environment, may just be time to go.
The little red "x" in the onstage TEDx is UPSIDE DOWN.
gah i cant unsee this nao
Whoever did that must be put into a PIP
I can't unsee the X and the other Playstation buttons.
I just wonder, is there some law in USA that forbids to add longer termination periods to employment contracts ? the periods themself are symetrical - which is good. if you as employer propose to contract to leavefire at will, why are you dissatisfied when this contract is used by other side ?
Most places it's day of. Like that where I work. They don't come in for three days we know they're gone.
Wow..lol
Whoa! Its almost as if communication is important!
They won’t give 2 weeks notice before firing you. Just saying 😊
If my employer practiced these habits, I would have never left.
I am really struggling. I thought I’d be with my company for life. I worked hard to be in management. Transferred to a new state with my job and in just a month the work life has gotten worse. Mentally I have been drained even more then I was before. I cry EVERYDAY. Told my boss a week ago I want to move up and now this week I want to quit!
Please find something else.
Leave
I've quit a few jobs and never give notice. For a couple of th3m I just stopped showing up.
This assumes your boss is a decent person. Most of the time that’s not going to be the case.
TL;DR; wtf was this about? did the 2 weeks notice was even mentioned in the video?
I am thinking the same thing!! 😂
What do you do if your employer tells you that they are super happy with your performance but then tells you 3 months later that your underperforming ?
You ask them what are they not happy about your performance lately
Time to go...
I respect a lot of his opinions but flipping around an employer can fire somebody on a Friday evening after all the work is done or before a holiday and with no notice or severance package companies can’t expect two week notice is if most companies can’t be respectful in the reverse situation
I have mixed feelings about what this guy is selling.
If a person works in a hostile, unsafe or toxic environment I'm sympathetic to those who quit on the spot.
However I've experienced many people who quit without notice not even slightly concerned about the ripple effects their decision caused. The rest of us who stick around end up having to pick up the slack you left.
I believe in the long run, the best policy is to provide a 2 week notice and leave the job with respect and dignity even is even if your supervisor or the job culture doesn't necessarily deserve it.
Character matters.
Utilize the ripple effect sent down to the employees still there, ask yourself "why did my coworker leave so abruptly"
Hopefully it'll make you question that if it was a toxic enough environment to make them leave like that, why are you still there?
Ammazing 👍👍
I love this
Sounds like employers and bosses coming up woth tactics tp keep employees stuck at their jobs for years
No 2 week notice when they want to get rid of you.
That’s right.
People actually put in their 2 week notice ? 💀
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See this involves actually giving a damn
Always play the game
employer: We want employees to be excited about work and leave better than when they walked in the door.
Me: baseball sized knot in my arm, severe sciatica, and depression from not seeing my family. "Please just kill me already"
Why should an employee give a two weeks notice to the employer, when the employer don't give the employee two weeks they fired you. In other words they will fire you right away there and then.
The 2 week notice thing will die off with the boomers, everyone bashes millennials, but as a guy almost 50 years old I love the way they changed the one sided work culture in this country. I will never give a two week notice ever again, been laid off without any notice enough times to never extend a courtesy to billion dollar corporations that is never extended to me.
This man is out of touch.
And they all lived happily ever after !!! ha !
Why am I going to give you two weeks notice, when you can fire me at anytime and not give me notice at all? The Employee
Instead of understanding my stress the hr kept it short and asked if I pu lt my 2 weeks noticed and acted buthurt and and said goodbye and was mad for me not bringing it up
Meanwhile in India : "you must serve 90 days notice"
Do you work with banks? I want to exit my job.
how’d it go?
I am in the casino game all these people get replaced
I actually like being courteous (: I'm putting in a 2 weeks notice for an amazing job that I'm leaving for another more amazing job I just got an offer for.
well good for you yoir situation sounds a whole lot easier than most . Try being in a extremely toxic environment where your employers don't respect you or care for you and then tell me how courteous you like being .:)
This smacks of propaganda.
First
People are getting more and more selfish.
BS !!! he is complete liar. This is insanity. My opinion
Your opinion.
How much notice will get when you're fired?
I mean... it's still polite though.
It is, but it still isn’t something you owe them or have to do. Many people leave without notice because they don’t feel valued at their job, in that case who cares about being polite.
Is it polite for employers to fire you on the spot without giving a notice?