IMPORTANT: You can set the ROG Ally's TDP/Wattage higher and it will perform TONS better. It's a setting on the ROG Ally itself. You can set it up all the way to 35TDP or something like that. Try the test again please
Performance also improves when using official docking from asus. It allows for outlet power and hdmi from the charger itself. There's other videos proving that
Yayy. Where did you hear this? I also seen that the CPU is big chillen like 80% inactive inactive in some tests and still dishing out high quality gameplay. All that untapped potential 🤤
Little note for something I figured out on my Steam Deck, even though on paper High quality Shaders suck up more power, well it actually helps performance. Two games I tested it with were Forza Horizon 5 and Street Fighter 6 on my Steam deck. With Shaders set to High, I can run FH5 with Medium preset and get a consistent 50-60 fps on it, with Shaders on Low, it performs terrible even on low settings. Same for SF6, I set Shaders on High and it runs a consistent 60 fps, with absolutely no hiccups, and you can set everything else to normal/high (except shadows), without issue.
Extremely good tip, was getting low 50 on lowest preset and turbo mode, now by turning off screen space reflections and ambient occlusion and putting the shaders on high, I'm getting locked 60 on medium high settings 720p at 18w
I ran the game on the steam deck, 720p, and I found a fair balance without compromising the graphical fidelity too much. I don’t have any low settings.
NRS have the right idea. Adaptive vertical resolution is a quick and reliable way to get a rock-solid frame rate. Otherwise you're cranking settings all the way down to compensate for frametime spikes.
tbh, when it comes to fighting games, I don't really care about the graphics but more about the input lag. I'm pretty sure the steam deck and other handheld consoles can run this game on low settings. What I care the most is that input lag
At 720p with the options set to low I didn't see any lag but I felt like there was a slight delay. Not sure if it was the USB hub I was using or my cheap TV.
rog ally is very disappointing, it is only 30 to 40% faster then the steam deck even at 25 watts, nowhere near the deceptive 2X performance ,and much worse then the steam deck at 10 watts
@@imaginalex5850 30 to 40% is a BIG difference, despite the 2x marketing BS Asus has given. Also, keep in mind the Ally is running these games at 1080p, which makes it even more difficult for the APU compared to the lower native resolution of the Deck.
Deff not running this game on steam deck on high settings lol. I have settings on low for 60 fps on my steam deck. Once I get my ally in. Steam deck will collect dust
etaprime has a video that when plugged in you can set it to manual mode and then max. not sure how much difference it would make, but its better than turbo mode. Note you cannot go to manual in handheld mode.
The Phawx talked about that by default when the Ally is plugged in it's is basically running with all the limits off on the CPU like it assumes you are using a XG Dock even though it's just USB C. He said he had to adjust it manually talks about it about 2:30 in on his video with all the benchmarks.
It plays fantastic in fights if you lock at 60, 15 W perforamnce, Resolution at 720 (scaling 3) -> looks beautiful and looks good. However, world tour is attrocious. Even if it looks like ass I still get into 30 fps sometimes.
Quick question, can you compare the input delay with the steam deck and the Ally? Just thinking that running a game native in windows is going to be better than steam OS, especially for a fighting game!
I’ve been using it for a few days now and haven’t got the sticky button issue on my unit. It might be a QA thing where some units have, others don’t. I’ll keep testing.
I’m sure 900p would be a great balance but I think only 720 and 1080 were selectable in this demo. Also, this video is purely to see whether 1080 gaming is feasible or not. 720p is really quite sufficient on a handheld for FGs
Please get a Steam Deck dude. I've had mine since July and have been able to play, Elden Ring, Dark Souls 1-3, Sekiro, GTA IV, GTA V, MGS V, Ace Combat 7, Witcher 3, The division 2, Aliens Fireteam Elite, Skyrim, Hades, FIFA 22, Madden 23, Hitman 1-3, Metro Exodus, MK 11, Wo Long, and Jedi Fallen Order. The Rog might be more powerful but the Steam Deck community is amazing, as well as Steam Support. 1000s of ways, ok maybe 100s of ways to customize your Steam Deck through the points shop. You can even change the start up screen when you turn it on. The Steam Deck has auto-resume and Track Pads. Do you want a less powerful device that has excellent software, and is established, or would you rather roll the dice on a more powerful device with plenty of unknowns. I think they're both great devices but I'd get the Steam Deck.
It really depends on what you want. If you're on a budget, get the Steam Deck with the 64gb version. If you got some money, the Rog Ally is a great buy. Both have their pros and cons, but if you are truly a gamer, go with the Ally; It has more features. But if you are a casual gamer, go with the Steam Deck. You can wait for the Z1 Rog Ally which comes out in Q3 of 2023 for 100 bucks cheaper than the Z1 Extreme.
You have the screen steering and game fps on different settings. If you put it on 30 with motion blur you can play almost maxed out. Fighting games look great still at 30 but the times you had it on 30 in game and 60 on screen that makes it slow mo,
You really believe that doing the external monitor test first would keep the system from throttling, just because its done first? After that i couldnt take the rest of the video serious...
IMHO, The RoG Ally is wrongly advertised as a 1080p handheld. The performance drop in 1080p is too big to be really interesting with the device's screen size. The performance gains related to playing 720 allows for better graphical fidelity. Empirically i prefer a 720p 60fp(or higher) mid/high settings than a 1080p 40/60 with low/mid especially with fighting games! It also allows to set the device at a lower TDP, Meaning some battery life preservation. As of now. The Steamdeck is BOSS in that aspect. Let's see how the Rog Ally does once the AMD optimized drivers for the Z1 extreme do their job(apparently they are not finished when it comes to low end TPD management and as of now only thrives in high tdp)
You’re right. They definitely tried to sell up the 1080p thing (they didn’t fool me though as I knew that the whole 1080p 120hz thing would basically be relegated to my Moonlight sessions). I’m just like you in that I would definitely rock 720p to get more frames and fidelity.
Very good point about drivers. This is still a day zero unit and I’m sure we can squeeze out better battery life and performance here and there. I wouldn’t describe it as wrong advertising tho. It’s 1080p. It just doesn’t handle it as comfortably as a desktop can.
In my opinion the best handheld gaming pc with be sometime like a CPU with i7 8700K performance and a GPU which is close to a gtx1060 or gtx 980TI 6GB VRAM at this price would be great .
You can use the usb-c port for many things. In this video I’m using a steam deck docking stand which expands the usb-c to hdmi and usb-A ports. That’s how the fight pad is connected.
@@wensonchang6077 Fighting Games are meant to run at a specific framerate (usually 60fps) to accommodate for punches and kicks. Every punch and kick have certain frames they move at to match 60fps. So when it is slower than 60fps, it will make the animation slower. If it is higher than 60fps, it will make the animations faster. That's why most fighting games have a 60fps cap.
What's up ...In whole RUclips I made researches about fifa23 in this console how it games specially in ultimate team in online mode how does this Asus Rog ally handles FIFA 23 ?!!I would be very curious 😅 because if it is good I'd I meditialy buy it cause I love fifa😅thankssss
Overall design of handheld goes to Steam Deck, it's a lot nicer looking. It has the track pads, slick black, and better scuffs. I still want one desperately!
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IMPORTANT: You can set the ROG Ally's TDP/Wattage higher and it will perform TONS better. It's a setting on the ROG Ally itself. You can set it up all the way to 35TDP or something like that. Try the test again please
Hes already at 30w plugged in on turbo mode? It shouldn’t be improving “tons” from there.
Performance also improves when using official docking from asus. It allows for outlet power and hdmi from the charger itself. There's other videos proving that
@@juliofierro3952 That garbage only has 1 usb port, it's useless if you play with a friend
@@AT-vj2mzyou play with a controller or two, Bluetooth connections
@@Cra3ier bluetooth is slow as hell, and you'll understand when you come across some real windows problems and need to use a keyboard and mouse
This is EXACTLY what i was looking for! Thank you so much for this!
I'd love to see a video on how to get an arcade stick working on the ROG Ally too.
Yesss you did the video I’ve been wanting to see since the ASUS Ally was announced!
There are driver issues which AMD will fix it soon to get even more performance in any games
Yayy. Where did you hear this? I also seen that the CPU is big chillen like 80% inactive inactive in some tests and still dishing out high quality gameplay. All that untapped potential 🤤
Little note for something I figured out on my Steam Deck, even though on paper High quality Shaders suck up more power, well it actually helps performance. Two games I tested it with were Forza Horizon 5 and Street Fighter 6 on my Steam deck. With Shaders set to High, I can run FH5 with Medium preset and get a consistent 50-60 fps on it, with Shaders on Low, it performs terrible even on low settings. Same for SF6, I set Shaders on High and it runs a consistent 60 fps, with absolutely no hiccups, and you can set everything else to normal/high (except shadows), without issue.
Extremely good tip, was getting low 50 on lowest preset and turbo mode, now by turning off screen space reflections and ambient occlusion and putting the shaders on high, I'm getting locked 60 on medium high settings 720p at 18w
@@Cyliano oclusion and reflectios pulls a lot, but high shaders actually helps optimize better.
I ran the game on the steam deck, 720p, and I found a fair balance without compromising the graphical fidelity too much. I don’t have any low settings.
Steam deck is amazing, no doubt about that
Steam decks magic in effect
Asbolutely runs fine on the deck, its the terrible garbage ips panel that holds its back
@NihongoGamer no its not lol steam deck is only great for indie games and emulation, but not AAA titles, don't lie
NRS have the right idea. Adaptive vertical resolution is a quick and reliable way to get a rock-solid frame rate. Otherwise you're cranking settings all the way down to compensate for frametime spikes.
Always keep textures and shader quality higher or medium. It doesn't tax the GPU just takes up more memory.
… These handhelds don’t have much memory for that considering you have to share RAM between CPU and GPU.
@@FoxbatStargazer If the steam deck can do it. This can too. It may not handle lighting or shadows but it can handle textures.
tbh, when it comes to fighting games, I don't really care about the graphics but more about the input lag. I'm pretty sure the steam deck and other handheld consoles can run this game on low settings. What I care the most is that input lag
Will hopefully get time to check input lag soon but I wanna test it thoroughly
At 720p with the options set to low I didn't see any lag but I felt like there was a slight delay. Not sure if it was the USB hub I was using or my cheap TV.
As soon as i saw yer face, i knew i was right on spot for what i came for
Please do an input lag test on both systems.
I’d like to but it takes time to do it right! Hopefully I’ll get round to it
Love playing SF6 on my steam deck on mid/high but this device looks amazing as well.
It was running at High settings.
rog ally is very disappointing, it is only 30 to 40% faster then the steam deck even at 25 watts, nowhere near the deceptive 2X performance ,and much worse then the steam deck at 10 watts
Does it genuinely run well on the Deck too? Tempted to buy a Deck :)
@@imaginalex5850 30 to 40% is a BIG difference, despite the 2x marketing BS Asus has given. Also, keep in mind the Ally is running these games at 1080p, which makes it even more difficult for the APU compared to the lower native resolution of the Deck.
Deff not running this game on steam deck on high settings lol. I have settings on low for 60 fps on my steam deck. Once I get my ally in. Steam deck will collect dust
etaprime has a video that when plugged in you can set it to manual mode and then max. not sure how much difference it would make, but its better than turbo mode. Note you cannot go to manual in handheld mode.
The modding community will have the restriction gone in no time. Trust me.
I tried putting everything at max in manual mode but didn’t see much difference. I might’ve been doing it wrong though so I’ll try again!
The Phawx talked about that by default when the Ally is plugged in it's is basically running with all the limits off on the CPU like it assumes you are using a XG Dock even though it's just USB C. He said he had to adjust it manually talks about it about 2:30 in on his video with all the benchmarks.
I think using the res scaling is best option if u want higher graphics settings
So what’s better experience, SF6 on steamdeck or rog ally?
Thank you for this review.
Great video but important question: How is the D-Pad? Is it any good? Thanks !
Can you run leverless controllers on this device
im sorry but how did get the rog ally z1 extreme now?
Very cool!
Why not use RSR for upscaling? Surely the driver level upscaling is better than the game software implementation
It plays fantastic in fights if you lock at 60, 15 W perforamnce, Resolution at 720 (scaling 3) -> looks beautiful and looks good.
However, world tour is attrocious. Even if it looks like ass I still get into 30 fps sometimes.
Quick question, can you compare the input delay with the steam deck and the Ally? Just thinking that running a game native in windows is going to be better than steam OS, especially for a fighting game!
This is measured in my Ally review I posted this week
@@NihongoGamer Nice one, I'll go take a look, thanks!
The Z1 needs better face buttons. I've heard reports of them sticking.
I’ve been using it for a few days now and haven’t got the sticky button issue on my unit. It might be a QA thing where some units have, others don’t. I’ll keep testing.
Sorry, new to PC, is Z1 the Rog Ally or are you talking about a different device?
I wonder if you can turn the game settings up more if you change the resolution to 900p
was thinking the same thing. would still look better than 720p without sacrificing too much res.
I’m sure 900p would be a great balance but I think only 720 and 1080 were selectable in this demo. Also, this video is purely to see whether 1080 gaming is feasible or not. 720p is really quite sufficient on a handheld for FGs
@@NihongoGamer Oh okay gotcha, I see what you’re saying. Anyways great video!
Nice. This might be a better buy than the PS5 if you're not after the exclusives
The real question is the battery life ?
My quality option is grayed out and I can't change it to low. The only thing its letting me change is the rez to 720. wtf????
Are you in a game mode? Some graphics options are greyed out until you return to the main menu
how does mouse control work in a strategy game? can you show that?
I wanna see wow being played on this
Waiting for the oled rog screen mod
hello how do you connect the asus tog Ally Z1 to your PC ? USB C TO HDMI? Good vidéo !
So Good 😍👏🏻
What about the battery life when playing sf6?
I would try this in 900p medium settings. Seems like a good compromise on both resolution and settings.
Could you please test warzone 2.0. I have not seen anyone try it on the ally yet.
I don’t know what this is. Is it an FPS?
@@NihongoGameryes
I’ll just get it on the ps5. Gaming more fun when you don’t have to worry about stats and frame rates
Mines run sf6 40fps on 1080p how do I get better performance
It's from asus? Hopefully its motherboard doesn't burn down when it's being held.
handheld ps4
I'd just play it at a lower resolution with higher settings.
WHAT CONTROLLER HE USE
I heard you can also use an external gpu
yes this is true !
What happened with Ctrl-Alt-Fight news series?
I want to continue it but I’ve got too many review videos in my backlog to do so I can’t find the time for ctrl alt fight!
Should I buy a steam deck or rog ally 🤔 👀
Please get a Steam Deck dude. I've had mine since July and have been able to play, Elden Ring, Dark Souls 1-3, Sekiro, GTA IV, GTA V, MGS V, Ace Combat 7, Witcher 3, The division 2, Aliens Fireteam Elite, Skyrim, Hades, FIFA 22, Madden 23, Hitman 1-3, Metro Exodus, MK 11, Wo Long, and Jedi Fallen Order. The Rog might be more powerful but the Steam Deck community is amazing, as well as Steam Support. 1000s of ways, ok maybe 100s of ways to customize your Steam Deck through the points shop. You can even change the start up screen when you turn it on. The Steam Deck has auto-resume and Track Pads. Do you want a less powerful device that has excellent software, and is established, or would you rather roll the dice on a more powerful device with plenty of unknowns. I think they're both great devices but I'd get the Steam Deck.
It really depends on what you want. If you're on a budget, get the Steam Deck with the 64gb version. If you got some money, the Rog Ally is a great buy. Both have their pros and cons, but if you are truly a gamer, go with the Ally; It has more features. But if you are a casual gamer, go with the Steam Deck.
You can wait for the Z1 Rog Ally which comes out in Q3 of 2023 for 100 bucks cheaper than the Z1 Extreme.
It's like playing a ps2 game on a ps1 lol
You have the screen steering and game fps on different settings. If you put it on 30 with motion blur you can play almost maxed out. Fighting games look great still at 30 but the times you had it on 30 in game and 60 on screen that makes it slow mo,
im still going to buy a steam deck. because my experience with asus is horrible. and at 799 euros i think at that price it isnt competetive
You really believe that doing the external monitor test first would keep the system from throttling, just because its done first?
After that i couldnt take the rest of the video serious...
IMHO, The RoG Ally is wrongly advertised as a 1080p handheld. The performance drop in 1080p is too big to be really interesting with the device's screen size.
The performance gains related to playing 720 allows for better graphical fidelity.
Empirically i prefer a 720p 60fp(or higher) mid/high settings than a 1080p 40/60 with low/mid especially with fighting games!
It also allows to set the device at a lower TDP, Meaning some battery life preservation.
As of now. The Steamdeck is BOSS in that aspect. Let's see how the Rog Ally does once the AMD optimized drivers for the Z1 extreme do their job(apparently they are not finished when it comes to low end TPD management and as of now only thrives in high tdp)
You’re right. They definitely tried to sell up the 1080p thing (they didn’t fool me though as I knew that the whole 1080p 120hz thing would basically be relegated to my Moonlight sessions). I’m just like you in that I would definitely rock 720p to get more frames and fidelity.
Very good point about drivers. This is still a day zero unit and I’m sure we can squeeze out better battery life and performance here and there. I wouldn’t describe it as wrong advertising tho. It’s 1080p. It just doesn’t handle it as comfortably as a desktop can.
And yes, steam deck is BOSS
You could stream 1080p 120 fps to it with GeForce Now, so I'm still glad the screen is there. Oh yeah, some game pass titles too.
The Dpad on the Ally looks way better IMO than the Steam Deck. Fighting games look like they would feel way much better on the Ally
You are running it wrong. I noticed that you have it under windowed. That will not give you the best performance.
In my opinion the best handheld gaming pc with be sometime like a CPU with i7 8700K performance and a GPU which is close to a gtx1060 or gtx 980TI 6GB VRAM at this price would be great .
It literally is a gtx 1060/8700k equivalent. All you had to do was google it, you failed
Do you have a fight stick? If so, can you please test to see if it works on handheld mode, by using a usb c to usb a converter?
Can you plug in a fight stick using the charger port?
You can use the usb-c port for many things. In this video I’m using a steam deck docking stand which expands the usb-c to hdmi and usb-A ports. That’s how the fight pad is connected.
@@NihongoGamer Ty kind sir :)
I just want a decent crosspad thats NOT on the edge of the console.
wait.....why was sf6 running so slow in the beginning?
It was on the highest possible setting in SF6
@@NihongoGamer why was it running in slow motion though?
@@wensonchang6077 Fighting Games are meant to run at a specific framerate (usually 60fps) to accommodate for punches and kicks. Every punch and kick have certain frames they move at to match 60fps. So when it is slower than 60fps, it will make the animation slower. If it is higher than 60fps, it will make the animations faster. That's why most fighting games have a 60fps cap.
What's up ...In whole RUclips I made researches about fifa23 in this console how it games specially in ultimate team in online mode how does this Asus Rog ally handles FIFA 23 ?!!I would be very curious 😅 because if it is good I'd I meditialy buy it cause I love fifa😅thankssss
No idea about sports games but once it releases in June I’m sure people will test it!
Can you run Gotham knights on it?
I've read mixed reviews about that game. How do you like it? Is it worth it to buy on sale?
I think the onexfly or onexplayer pro 2 is so much better than thus
和室界隈やんｗ
Overall design of handheld goes to Steam Deck, it's a lot nicer looking. It has the track pads, slick black, and better scuffs. I still want one desperately!
i dont feel like this is worth it
Please try tekken 7
NO (QD) Oled and no HDR. ILL PASS NO THANKS
your doing it wrong.
Please play Fortnite 😭
Pathetic putting everything on low. why even buy this thing
Restart the game for texture stored in ram memory to refresh !