This was a very, very good accounting of the Battle of Platea. What I loved was how you put the strategies and tactics above the chaos and mayhem - as so many other battle videos do. We always knew and understood exactly what was going on and when. The layout of the land, the abilities and strengths of each side, and how the beginning, middle, and end of the fight unfolded, were a success. Aerial views are critical to making sense of any real battle and in this video there were no shortages of them. This alone made the entire battle landscape beautifully real. Nicely done and I thank you for this.
very good? mkay, then there should be little errors like for example the main used formation: phalanx, where their line of infantry would push into the other infantry and the side that buckled would end up retreating and lose horribly. It showed individual fighting and not fighting in formation, using superior armor and covering each other with shields as would have been done in that fight. to conclude, it wasn't even good, let alone very very good as you stated because of the lack of accuracy. It was mediocre at best.
Well said. Before the battle of Cunaxa, mercenary phalagists nearly drove off their allies, at a demo, their employer Cyrus being one of the very few to keep their cool! Many levy and several household troops run off the parade ground!! But as military performance and experience goes in antiquity, Romans are always the benchmark. Well, one of their seasoned generals, Aemillius Paulus, scored a huge victory against the Greeks at Pydna, centuries later. Albeight knowing its weaknesses, and knowing what had to be done, he later recalled that he never saw a sight in his life as amazing and as dreadfull, as the advance of the phalanx towards him! Imagine the clueless fighter of the first rank(s) who had to deal with the thing.......
The phalanx was virtually unstoppable in frontal combat. But by that point the Roman military discarded the phalanx formation in the last Samnite war, as the terrain made it unsuitable. What they came up with was the remarkably flexible manipular legion. The maniples were an organizational innovation that changed the course of history imo. This flexibility allowed legions to easily be formed into smaller or larger units as necessary to changing battlefield conditions. This made their battles with the Greeks and Macedonians something they were uniquely suited to win, as once they were able to outmaneuver it, a phalanx became useless.
@@kalbarnes2494 Indeed, the manipular system the Romans introduced, took maneuverabillity to a whole new level. Company level teams acting independently during a large battle, was something war history never saw again till about WW1! But the phalanx didn't become useless immediately. Hanibal, Pyrus and others, beat the Romans several times using it; the Romans themselves used it in rare occations (the Triarii spearmen were probably in phalanx formation, the testudo was a form of phalanx not suitable to attack, and they tried to remember how it was meant to work at the battle of Cannae and some others after the republic); and we see it reemerging as cavalry becomes more efficient, later Roman armies abandoning manipular formations alltogether. Boar formations, schiltrons, and shieldwalls were medieval equivelents of the phalanx, as where the later pike formations (tercios e.a.) that dominated the European battlefields, untill gunpowder weapons made them obsolete by the 18th century. And we can still find later yet revivals, in the Austrian "battalion mass", the French "column of attack", and the "compact square" formations several armies used to repell cavalry.
Intimidated or not as a soldier you had to stand your ground if you panicked & tried to run you'd be killed for cowardice so? you was effectively going to die either in battle by the enemy or? by your own men for trying to run away
@@martinthrone7012 Only in "professional" armies an IF you were meant to stand your ground. I guess that, yeah, if you retreated before making contact, you would be in serious trouble. But I also guess THAT thought wouldn't be particulary reassuring at the moment. Yet, nobody would blame a skirmisher or a horseman, or a rookie for backing away. That's why usually firstrankers were seasoned soldiers, the equivalent of modern NCO's, each in command of a whole file (anything between 4 to 16 fighters). Still, armies backed away or even broke away all the time. In Greek military terminology, the word "trophy" meant the monument erected at the exact spot where the enemy line broke. While the word for coward was "drop-shield", implying that you intented to run faster than an armed enemy. But if the formation was broken, it would be pointless to try fixing it, or to fight-on individually. Usually the disrupted side would run away, more or less in good order. Cohesion meant the world in these short of "formation" battles. Nothing like we see in movies: if ever a side broke ranks to fight man to man, the game was over!
Persians: Hey, Greece, do you want to be conquered? Greeks: No Persians: I've got a big army, Greeks: NO Persians: I've got a bigger army now! Sparta: This. is. Sparta!
The high level of attention to detail in this video regarding the aesthetics of the spartan & greek armour is amazing the shere scale of the battlefield & attention to detail is what makes this very good & enjoyable....as well as it being historically accurate
The Spartans Never ask how many are the enemy, Only where they Are..p.s. Those Corinthian helmets are so distinctive and iconic..Excellent stuff here👍👍👍👍💯
That's because them a.i. hoplites have been programmed to actual spartan battle tactics....the most obvious way to kill the enemy cavalry would be to kill his horse 1st & then the rider once he's obviously on foot....if you're really lucky the horse might fall on him & crush him....otherwise he's likely to get thrown over the top right into a bunch of hoplites just waiting for him
I learned about the Spartans when I was in junior high school. I wanted to be one. The closest thing I could find was to join the Marine Corps. It was the best time of my life...1964 to 1968.
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
@@Literallysatan-t5uI am a descendant of this family and it’s Shpeta. We are also tied in with the Skenderbegs in Debar my family has grave stones in my village from 600 year’s continuous.
For some reason this victory was downplayed by the Greeks. Maybe they thought it was no big deal. To bad they couldn't unite against the Macedonians and Romans.
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
As a Northern European and there for probably a celtic tribes man had we have known about this we would waded in with the greeks just for the hell of it !
I once read some material on this battle that theorized the Huns abandoned a lot of their nomadic lifestyle by the time the Catalunian Plains battle took place, hence their forces mostly composed of infantry rather than cavalry. I never looked roo far into this to see if that indeed was the case but its something interesting to investigate for anyone here who decides to read up more on this battle. The Roman general Flavius Aetius was one of Rome"s greatest and amongst the last great Roman commanders; the emperor Valentinian's execution of him sped up Rone's downfall without a doubt, he could have been Romes last hope.
@@WarAndHistory. I was wondering what happened to my comment! I thought I accidentally deleted it. It must have posted here because I was typing it while watching it and aitoplay was on and it must have posted it here doh. I'll post it in the right place, thanks lol
These are so cool, man! I'm in the middle of re playing the assassins creed games in historical order, so it's awesome that I can come watch the battles that take place during the time period with the game I'm playing! This is so awesome, man! Better than the history Channel!
I have read somewhere before that the Greek coalition sent out messengers/left letters to the Greeks that were joining the Persians that said "If you must fight us, fight poorly." Have also heard that the Greeks that fought the Athenians on the left flank did not truly want to be fighting their fellow Greeks so they marched into battle with spears held upright, not leveled. Athenians saw this and did the same so the *possible* majority of the fighting on that flank was just formations having a shoving match with little to no bloodshed.
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe) what greece mate spartan were albani illyrian
That was by far the best accounting of that glorious battle I have seen .. Explaining everything as it happened . We could see the battle and hear about real time strategy from both sides . You showed how { and marked them } the lines were formed and how they moved . I can't think of better words to explain how much I enjoyed this { wish I could } ,, I have subscribed and gave a thumbs up for this video . I will share it as well . Thank you so very much for showing us history taking place as we watched . Epic , stellar job Bro !!! God Bless
Those medizing Thessalian and Theban hoplites! How dare they betray their Greek brothers!?! 😡 "Now is the hour! Hoplites, form phalanx!" That gave me the chills!
That’s why Alexander the Great had no tolerance to any Greek mercenary who was fighting for Persia. Betraying your own homeland is probably one of the worse crimes one can commit
Time took revenge. The modern Thebes is considered a non existing city by us fellow Greeks. Less than an hour away from Athens but with nothing to see or do. it hosts only a miserable training camp for the newly drafted soldiers of the artillery corp. A non existing city of misery :-))))) And Thessaly was enbodied to modern Greece not by war but with a treaty back in 1881. Probably not even the Ottomans could stand them and gave them away :-)))) They are considered hillbillies by the rest of the Greeks, loaded though due to the fact that Thessaly is the biggest farming plain in Greece.
Great video, there’s an amazing book ok called Persian Fire by Tom Holland which covers this period very well from marathon to salamis. The Athenians deserve much more credit lol.
Just discovered another war history channel. If it's up to my standard then I will subscribe and join. After what happened at the hands of King Leonidas and his men, you would have thought the Persians would not have wanted to fight them in battle again. Sounds like the Persians were not united in their cause. A slave army really. Really well done and am looking forward to seeing your other posts!👍😎🇦🇺🍻
One of the things I find much unrealistic in war gaming (let alone movies), is cavalry charging right into tightly packed formations. You can drive a bike, or a car stright into a wall, but I'm not so sure about a horse. The horse has a mind of its own, and that mind is usually free of suicidal thoughts. Even a higly trained war horse would hesitade to hit a solid mass, even if its rider would attempt to. Horses would probably pivot around, and the riders would use their spears to try and hit somebody's face. In a phalanx, as each rank was pushing the rank in front, and the front rank locked shields, the whole square was presenting a solid mass, concentrated in those front rank shields. A rider on a horse has great momentum, but surely less than the inertia of the combined mass of 8 men or more. Horses would only charge through lose formations, be it enemies broken or in dissaray, or in open order. An exception would be to hit a phalanx at the flank and rear, if the rider had the skill to not gide his horse straight at a man, but rather at the gap between two men! That could split the whole formation, much like unzipping it. Still, cavalry in tight line formation could not do it in optional terms, because the shove of a man towards one direction would be partially negated by a shove to the other direction, by another horse. So the whole box would be shaken and disrupted but the cavalry would evertually run out of momentum and stop. In order for the physics to really work its magic, the cavalry would have to be in a short of tight wedge formation! If such a formation was neatly guided at the gap between two men's backs, the initial gap created by the wedge leader, would be widened with every raw passing through, unraveling the box in split seconds! Interestigly enough, Greek shock cavalry squadrons were formed in wedges or rhomboids, always opting to hit an enemy formation with a vertex!
Pyrrhic dance over 2500 years old... According to Aristotle and Homer, the Pyrrhic was an armed dance, which was danced by children, men and women. ... Strabo states that the first to dance the war dance was Achilles' son, Pyrrhus, because he was happy to kill Eurypylus... The Athenians danced it in the Panathenaia and the Spartans danced it during battles. In fact, a text by Xenophon mentions a celebration that they organized in 400 BC. the residents of...
There is an excellent series of books about the Greco-Persian wars by Christan Cameron. It is a fictional account but using a lot of historical evidence called 'The Long War' and has a fantastic description of this battle and many others. Well worth reading.
I believe the 1400 number the most. Also alot of greeks died for the persians so maybe thats why the others though it was so much. This time of warefare the phalanx was the tank of the battlefield, and the greeks knew how to do it well
Excactly, clearly we can see Persian Royal Cavalry retreated even they smashed Greek Cavalry in both Battles of Issus & Gaugamela during Alexander's invasion of Persia.
It happened at Edge Hill in 1642, English Civil War. The cavalry charged, then looted the baggage train, forgetting about the battle. The Persian cavalry was also too interested in a bit of looting.
Hey, just a quick note on the word "medizing": It is an adjective of some sort but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be pronounced "medizing" like an English adjective proper- The greek word "Medeizien" used to denote the greek Poleies that cooperated with the Persians, it refers to Media, an ancient landscape around and within modern day Iraq, when Cyrus the Great came to power and founded the Achaemenid empire, he had to fight the Medians who were based in that region and the second strongest power/satrap of the empire, the ancient greeks usually recognised the Achaemenids as either Medians or Persians Anyway, I think it would be more correct to refer to Poleies who fought under/with Xerxes as Medeizin/Medezien cities/Poleies rather than Medizing
I prefer saying "Medized..." Like the Medized Thessalians or the Medized Ionians... Medizing just sounds too present tense or something. I just sounds funny.
The ultimate winners of these battles where the butchery was so up-close-and-personal were the buzzards. The stench must have been incredible in the days after the battle.
Spartans are shown fighting without body armor, which was against Spartan law...other Greek armies are shown with identical armor when in fact at this time only the Spartans had the same armor and weapons...Persians are shown with a lot of them in hoplite type mode, especially when it comes to their shields when in fact they used wicker shields...and this is the first account I have seen of Persian cavalry attacking the Spartans on this all important day of battle...your sources?
I am aware...and like most city states, the middle class hoplites were expected to supply their own armor.@@WarAndHistory. Some of the weapons, etc would have looked the same as typical Greek but not uniformed as the Spartans.
Congradulations! You're doing a great job putting these different battles together.i really like the Spartans and the Roman soldiers the best.
Thanks friend plenty more to come including the battle of yarmuk
There is no more Rome. But the Persians occupied an empire four times. Now they have a very big country called Iran.
😅@@WarAndHistory.
That was modern
Fake story.they were ilyrijan not grek.
This was a very, very good accounting of the Battle of Platea. What I loved was how you put the strategies and tactics above the chaos and mayhem - as so many other battle videos do. We always knew and understood exactly what was going on and when. The layout of the land, the abilities and strengths of each side, and how the beginning, middle, and end of the fight unfolded, were a success.
Aerial views are critical to making sense of any real battle and in this video there were no shortages of them. This alone made the entire battle landscape beautifully real. Nicely done and I thank you for this.
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very good? mkay, then there should be little errors like for example the main used formation: phalanx, where their line of infantry would push into the other infantry and the side that buckled would end up retreating and lose horribly. It showed individual fighting and not fighting in formation, using superior armor and covering each other with shields as would have been done in that fight.
to conclude, it wasn't even good, let alone very very good as you stated because of the lack of accuracy. It was mediocre at best.
Even being part of such a huge army, that "wall of bronze" walking quietly and steadily towards you had to be intimidating.
Well said. Before the battle of Cunaxa, mercenary phalagists nearly drove off their allies, at a demo, their employer Cyrus being one of the very few to keep their cool! Many levy and several household troops run off the parade ground!! But as military performance and experience goes in antiquity, Romans are always the benchmark. Well, one of their seasoned generals, Aemillius Paulus, scored a huge victory against the Greeks at Pydna, centuries later. Albeight knowing its weaknesses, and knowing what had to be done, he later recalled that he never saw a sight in his life as amazing and as dreadfull, as the advance of the phalanx towards him! Imagine the clueless fighter of the first rank(s) who had to deal with the thing.......
The phalanx was virtually unstoppable in frontal combat. But by that point the Roman military discarded the phalanx formation in the last Samnite war, as the terrain made it unsuitable.
What they came up with was the remarkably flexible manipular legion. The maniples were an organizational innovation that changed the course of history imo. This flexibility allowed legions to easily be formed into smaller or larger units as necessary to changing battlefield conditions.
This made their battles with the Greeks and Macedonians something they were uniquely suited to win, as once they were able to outmaneuver it, a phalanx became useless.
@@kalbarnes2494 Indeed, the manipular system the Romans introduced, took maneuverabillity to a whole new level. Company level teams acting independently during a large battle, was something war history never saw again till about WW1! But the phalanx didn't become useless immediately. Hanibal, Pyrus and others, beat the Romans several times using it; the Romans themselves used it in rare occations (the Triarii spearmen were probably in phalanx formation, the testudo was a form of phalanx not suitable to attack, and they tried to remember how it was meant to work at the battle of Cannae and some others after the republic); and we see it reemerging as cavalry becomes more efficient, later Roman armies abandoning manipular formations alltogether. Boar formations, schiltrons, and shieldwalls were medieval equivelents of the phalanx, as where the later pike formations (tercios e.a.) that dominated the European battlefields, untill gunpowder weapons made them obsolete by the 18th century. And we can still find later yet revivals, in the Austrian "battalion mass", the French "column of attack", and the "compact square" formations several armies used to repell cavalry.
Intimidated or not as a soldier you had to stand your ground if you panicked & tried to run you'd be killed for cowardice so? you was effectively going to die either in battle by the enemy or? by your own men for trying to run away
@@martinthrone7012 Only in "professional" armies an IF you were meant to stand your ground. I guess that, yeah, if you retreated before making contact, you would be in serious trouble. But I also guess THAT thought wouldn't be particulary reassuring at the moment. Yet, nobody would blame a skirmisher or a horseman, or a rookie for backing away. That's why usually firstrankers were seasoned soldiers, the equivalent of modern NCO's, each in command of a whole file (anything between 4 to 16 fighters). Still, armies backed away or even broke away all the time. In Greek military terminology, the word "trophy" meant the monument erected at the exact spot where the enemy line broke. While the word for coward was "drop-shield", implying that you intented to run faster than an armed enemy. But if the formation was broken, it would be pointless to try fixing it, or to fight-on individually. Usually the disrupted side would run away, more or less in good order. Cohesion meant the world in these short of "formation" battles. Nothing like we see in movies: if ever a side broke ranks to fight man to man, the game was over!
Does anyone else feel the bird flying over the left flank moments before the clash was a nice touch. Spectacular capture for sure.
I automatically thought "buzzard."
Definitely a nice touch. Very reminiscent of the Gaugamela scene from Alexander!
The eagle was the bird of Zeus
Didn't crows and other birds follow human armies so they could feast on their corpses after the battle?
Persians: Hey, Greece, do you want to be conquered?
Greeks: No
Persians: I've got a big army,
Greeks: NO
Persians: I've got a bigger army now!
Sparta: This. is. Sparta!
Spartans Rule 👌💪💪
Xerses I 💪
@@shahriarp9928he was defeated😂
@@FathomMane I'm speaking about history not this game videos , second time he sent persian armies he conquered all Greece
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Perfect timing. Just finished reading Herodotus Histories - wow what a book 10/10 and great video 10/10!
Gut gemachte videos über die geschichte.
VEry nice battle, really enjoyed watching it :)
The high level of attention to detail in this video regarding the aesthetics of the spartan & greek armour is amazing the shere scale of the battlefield & attention to detail is what makes this very good & enjoyable....as well as it being historically accurate
It's a game called Total war Rome 2... it has mods added to increase the historical accuracy
Hey that was so enjoyable, man i couldnt stop watching. thank you for your time and effort into the making of this video,. thank you.
Wow ❤. I am speechless. This video is one of the best💪🏻🔥❤️
Certainly !!!!
THANK YOU FOR USING MY RESKIN MOD !!! 😄
The Spartans Never ask how many are the enemy, Only where they Are..p.s. Those Corinthian helmets are so distinctive and iconic..Excellent stuff here👍👍👍👍💯
corinthian drip so good, everyone in greece used it for a period of time.
@peterroberts7684 Tell this to modern Iranians who think that quality is a reflection of quantity.
Excellent video!👍
Even in a computer generated battle, Spartan hoplites know how to empty saddles and crush all in their path!💪
That's because them a.i. hoplites have been programmed to actual spartan battle tactics....the most obvious way to kill the enemy cavalry would be to kill his horse 1st & then the rider once he's obviously on foot....if you're really lucky the horse might fall on him & crush him....otherwise he's likely to get thrown over the top right into a bunch of hoplites just waiting for him
This was literally amazing ❤. Well done all the way around👍🏾. Not bad for this being the first time I watch your work.
Well done video! Thank you!
Our pleasure!
The letter "Λ" on the Spartan shields derives from the region that Sparta is located.
Λακεδαιμόνα (Lakedemona).
Ah so that explains why it's called the Lambda!
@@TheREPPIX not exactly..
Lamda is Lamda. The region Lakedemona starts with Lamda.
@@mariosathens1 my point exactly!
Or (maybe) from arrow peak! 😜😜😜
@@icp818 spartans didn't even use arrows that much, or even at all.
I learned about the Spartans when I was in junior high school. I wanted to be one. The closest thing I could find was to join the Marine Corps. It was the best time of my life...1964 to 1968.
Join the US Army. We need battle lords such as you!
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
@@Literallysatan-t5uI am a descendant of this family and it’s Shpeta. We are also tied in with the Skenderbegs in Debar my family has grave stones in my village from 600 year’s continuous.
It's sad the way plataea gets forgotten about with thermopylae getting so much attention.
For some reason this victory was downplayed by the Greeks. Maybe they thought it was no big deal. To bad they couldn't unite against the Macedonians and Romans.
Fortunately the Greek State of Macedonia, won and could united all the rest of Greek states against Persians.
The Macedonians were Greek as well
@@nikolasgreen7102 Did I say that they were not???
@@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720no the contrary, my reply was to richard
Persians: We have more men.
Greeks: We have Sparta.
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
At this time you didn’t screw around with the Spartans in a land war. You’d be a dead bloody idiot!
@@Literallysatan-t5u Also, it is PROVEN that albanians built the pyramids, went first to the moon and OFC found america, it is known...
@@Literallysatan-t5uτι λες γαμω τη μάνα σου
@user-ic1dw7tg2t Shpata of Bua Shpata have nothing to do with Ancient Spartans and the Mani if our time. DON'T confuse.
i really love these vids ty for the upload
Go tell the Spartans I wish I had this kind of history lesson at school. They were a magnificent society.
Ironically the best infantry the Persians had were Greek.
Yeah, phalangites were excellent infantry! And that wasn't a one time deal. Centuries later, Swiss pikemen were also much sought-after mercenaries!
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
Were the Greeks defeated by the Persians before the Persian army had Greek soldiers?
@@austinyang3573yes. battle of thymbra persians defeated greeks when they were out numbered two to one . and they didnt had greek soldires.
@@Literallysatan-t5u go steal and sell drugs
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Thanks!
As a Northern European and there for probably a celtic tribes man had we have known about this we would waded in with the greeks just for the hell of it !
100 % perfection '' wow ''
May the greeks rise agaon, modern day Turks need a lesson
@@Cryptic_Chai Don't care. They will have their lesson. Be sure.
I once read some material on this battle that theorized the Huns abandoned a lot of their nomadic lifestyle by the time the Catalunian Plains battle took place, hence their forces mostly composed of infantry rather than cavalry. I never looked roo far into this to see if that indeed was the case but its something interesting to investigate for anyone here who decides to read up more on this battle.
The Roman general Flavius Aetius was one of Rome"s greatest and amongst the last great Roman commanders; the emperor Valentinian's execution of him sped up Rone's downfall without a doubt, he could have been Romes last hope.
wrong video 😂
@@WarAndHistory. I was wondering what happened to my comment! I thought I accidentally deleted it. It must have posted here because I was typing it while watching it and aitoplay was on and it must have posted it here doh. I'll post it in the right place, thanks lol
thanks for watching 👌
Enjoyed 👍👍
Persia: "We will darken the skys"
Sparta: "Then we shall fight in the shade"
Epic ⚔️
These are so cool, man! I'm in the middle of re playing the assassins creed games in historical order, so it's awesome that I can come watch the battles that take place during the time period with the game I'm playing! This is so awesome, man! Better than the history Channel!
Really love your videos mate!! the historical accuracy and the background story telling, i love it!! please make more!
I have read somewhere before that the Greek coalition sent out messengers/left letters to the Greeks that were joining the Persians that said "If you must fight us, fight poorly." Have also heard that the Greeks that fought the Athenians on the left flank did not truly want to be fighting their fellow Greeks so they marched into battle with spears held upright, not leveled. Athenians saw this and did the same so the *possible* majority of the fighting on that flank was just formations having a shoving match with little to no bloodshed.
Love the random Birds that fly over every 5 minutes or so
Love Greece 🇬🇷 from Romania 🇷🇴 orthodox brothers
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe) what greece mate spartan were albani illyrian
@@Literallysatan-t5u go steal and sell drugs
Romanian people are brothers with Greeks ... we have many same things , love Romania
@@SardonianSmilebest regards from Greece.
@@Literallysatan-t5uillyrians??😅😅😅😅😅😅what a loser you are...and there is no cameria..was always Greece!💪💪
This production is amazing.
Excelente vídeo!
very cool!
That was by far the best accounting of that glorious battle I have seen .. Explaining everything as it happened . We could see the battle and hear about real time strategy from both sides . You showed how { and marked them } the lines were formed and how they moved . I can't think of better words to explain how much I enjoyed this { wish I could } ,, I have subscribed and gave a thumbs up for this video . I will share it as well . Thank you so very much for showing us history taking place as we watched . Epic , stellar job Bro !!! God Bless
Good stuff mate.
Very cool. Almost like being there.
Glad you enjoyed it
Rome 2 is still beautiful
My thanks to the Greeks of 480 bc , brothers always!
This is why you should scout your opponents to see what they're capable of 😮
Very nicely done!
Those medizing Thessalian and Theban hoplites! How dare they betray their Greek brothers!?! 😡
"Now is the hour! Hoplites, form phalanx!"
That gave me the chills!
That’s why Alexander the Great had no tolerance to any Greek mercenary who was fighting for Persia. Betraying your own homeland is probably one of the worse crimes one can commit
Time took revenge. The modern Thebes is considered a non existing city by us fellow Greeks. Less than an hour away from Athens but with nothing to see or do. it hosts only a miserable training camp for the newly drafted soldiers of the artillery corp. A non existing city of misery :-))))) And Thessaly was enbodied to modern Greece not by war but with a treaty back in 1881. Probably not even the Ottomans could stand them and gave them away :-)))) They are considered hillbillies by the rest of the Greeks, loaded though due to the fact that Thessaly is the biggest farming plain in Greece.
it was well done this videos as tw fan myself
Nice presentation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cool. If anyone's interested in Classical Hellenic warfare I warmly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series
Some of these drones shots are amazing!
nobody:
THE ANCIENT ARMY WITH LESS TESTOSTERONE IN THE BLOOD
Just well put together! Music how the AI move and the difference in fighting styles. Really gives you a VR version of the battle.
Great work!
That is history
Never, ever, step into a Spartans wheelhouse.
Unless ur Epaminondas😂
Wow 😯 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Love this me... History that you don't get taught about... Real history
How do you do these or make these? where are these games? I love this stuff ancient realistic battles
Like having the spartans on your side is like ..great im feeling safer all ready !
No buttons to push.
Back then you looked your enemy in the eyes & push on thru with spear & sword.
What are you playing this on can I play on the PS five
didnt finish the story of the battle. what happened to the medizing greeks afterwards?
Great video, there’s an amazing book ok called Persian Fire by Tom Holland which covers this period very well from marathon to salamis. The Athenians deserve much more credit lol.
just came across it
@andrehanekom5665 What you mean lol??
A rugby scrum , on a mega size and with pointy things
Just discovered another war history channel. If it's up to my standard then I will subscribe and join. After what happened at the hands of King Leonidas and his men, you would have thought the Persians would not have wanted to fight them in battle again. Sounds like the Persians were not united in their cause. A slave army really. Really well done and am looking forward to seeing your other posts!👍😎🇦🇺🍻
this is an older video, check out the newer stuff thats much higher quality
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spartan were very well trained and knew each man would stick to strict ordets never waivering!!! I was a Spartan in previous life....
One of the things I find much unrealistic in war gaming (let alone movies), is cavalry charging right into tightly packed formations. You can drive a bike, or a car stright into a wall, but I'm not so sure about a horse. The horse has a mind of its own, and that mind is usually free of suicidal thoughts. Even a higly trained war horse would hesitade to hit a solid mass, even if its rider would attempt to. Horses would probably pivot around, and the riders would use their spears to try and hit somebody's face. In a phalanx, as each rank was pushing the rank in front, and the front rank locked shields, the whole square was presenting a solid mass, concentrated in those front rank shields. A rider on a horse has great momentum, but surely less than the inertia of the combined mass of 8 men or more. Horses would only charge through lose formations, be it enemies broken or in dissaray, or in open order. An exception would be to hit a phalanx at the flank and rear, if the rider had the skill to not gide his horse straight at a man, but rather at the gap between two men! That could split the whole formation, much like unzipping it. Still, cavalry in tight line formation could not do it in optional terms, because the shove of a man towards one direction would be partially negated by a shove to the other direction, by another horse. So the whole box would be shaken and disrupted but the cavalry would evertually run out of momentum and stop. In order for the physics to really work its magic, the cavalry would have to be in a short of tight wedge formation! If such a formation was neatly guided at the gap between two men's backs, the initial gap created by the wedge leader, would be widened with every raw passing through, unraveling the box in split seconds! Interestigly enough, Greek shock cavalry squadrons were formed in wedges or rhomboids, always opting to hit an enemy formation with a vertex!
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I cant wait to get rome 1 and 2 again this time on a top notch computer with killer graphics and sound
Pyrrhic dance over 2500 years old...
According to Aristotle and Homer, the Pyrrhic was an armed dance, which was danced by children, men and women. ...
Strabo states that the first to dance the war dance was Achilles' son, Pyrrhus, because he was happy to kill Eurypylus...
The Athenians danced it in the Panathenaia and the Spartans danced it during battles. In fact, a text by Xenophon mentions a celebration that they organized in 400 BC. the residents of...
What game is this
I think, Total war Rome II
And that's why we study the Greeks.
Is there a way to fight as the Persians in a custom battle
Mods
Excellent video! A nice touch would have been a short Hoplite Run just as the armies were closing on one another.
What mods are you using?
There is an excellent series of books about the Greco-Persian wars by Christan Cameron. It is a fictional account but using a lot of historical evidence called 'The Long War' and has a fantastic description of this battle and many others. Well worth reading.
What software is used for animation?
I believe the 1400 number the most. Also alot of greeks died for the persians so maybe thats why the others though it was so much. This time of warefare the phalanx was the tank of the battlefield, and the greeks knew how to do it well
the music is awesome
Can you make videos of Japanese and Chinese historical battles
Don’t have the time buddy
You could stream classic Kurosawa epics..
Cool video, thanks.
Οι Έλληνες από τους αρχαίους χρόνους αγωνιστικά για τα ιδανικά τους.Η Ευρώπη χρωστά πολλά στην Ελλάδα.Ας μην το ξεχνούν.❤
We don't. As John Stuart Mill said, Marathon was the most important battle in British history.
@@stephenhill545 The most important battle in Greek History, that was still is very convenient for all Europeans.
درود بر ایرانیان شجاع و دلاور🎉
Why are they brave??? THEY LOST THE WAR.. Read History a bit.
Virgin Persians vs Chad Spartans
Ah of course a petty LITTLE turk would say that
One word from mongol 😂😂, you are obsessed with our history i see you comments everywhere
Virgin turks vs chad hussars
FUCK8NG AMAZING VIDEO BRO WOW!😬 VERY COOL!!!
What happened to the Persian cavalry after the first charge ?
They ran off and never came back ?
That happened often with eastern army's, they either caused a decisive victory or ran away.
Excactly, clearly we can see Persian Royal Cavalry retreated even they smashed Greek Cavalry in both Battles of Issus & Gaugamela during Alexander's invasion of Persia.
It happened at Edge Hill in 1642, English Civil War. The cavalry charged, then looted the baggage train, forgetting about the battle. The Persian cavalry was also too interested in a bit of looting.
Αθανατοι είστε Έλληνες πρόγονοι μου
If you want to REALLY understand how the Spartans fought, and how devastating the Spartan Phalynx was, read “The Gates Of Fire” by Steven Pressfield.
Thanks. I'll go check that out.
Hey, just a quick note on the word "medizing":
It is an adjective of some sort but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be pronounced "medizing" like an English adjective proper-
The greek word "Medeizien" used to denote the greek Poleies that cooperated with the Persians, it refers to Media, an ancient landscape around and within modern day Iraq, when Cyrus the Great came to power and founded the Achaemenid empire, he had to fight the Medians who were based in that region and the second strongest power/satrap of the empire,
the ancient greeks usually recognised the Achaemenids as either Medians or Persians
Anyway, I think it would be more correct to refer to Poleies who fought under/with Xerxes as Medeizin/Medezien cities/Poleies rather than Medizing
I prefer saying "Medized..." Like the Medized Thessalians or the Medized Ionians... Medizing just sounds too present tense or something. I just sounds funny.
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The ultimate winners of these battles where the butchery was so up-close-and-personal were the buzzards. The stench must have been incredible in the days after the battle.
Spartans are shown fighting without body armor, which was against Spartan law...other Greek armies are shown with identical armor when in fact at this time only the Spartans had the same armor and weapons...Persians are shown with a lot of them in hoplite type mode, especially when it comes to their shields when in fact they used wicker shields...and this is the first account I have seen of Persian cavalry attacking the Spartans on this all important day of battle...your sources?
you do realize that those "Persians" were also Thebans and Thessalians as stated in the video right?
I am aware...and like most city states, the middle class hoplites were expected to supply their own armor.@@WarAndHistory. Some of the weapons, etc would have looked the same as typical Greek but not uniformed as the Spartans.
Ok cool 👍🏻
ΚΑΛΗ ΕΡΓΑΣΙΑ Η ΜΟΥΣΙΚΗ ΥΠΕΡΟΧΗ ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΏ ❤
well done
Great
Wow. Amazing 👏
Wow. First time watcher. Wish i could send $ to help out. Damnit im such a bum😅