I cannot imagine the progression of feeling. From the confidence of being surrounded by 40,000 well trained men, to seeing my sons head on a pike, to then witnessing my forces being decimated and feeling my own life in immediate danger. Gut wrenching. I know Crassus was not a good man, but by god, what a fate.
Why the expression: "crass error" found its definition in this battle: Underestimating the opponent! Congratulations on the video and contextualization!
Crassus after a slow start, annihilated, the slave rebellion and had ten thousand crucified along the main road into Rome. Spartacus body was never identified. Crassus was the winner, in spades.
Correspondence of the Iranian emperor and Crassus:🇮🇷🇮🇹 The king of kings wrote to Crassus and inquired the reason for his enmity, and mentioned that this war was the will of Crassus or the Roman government, the great king wrote, If you have come to our war on behalf of Rome, we will meet each other on the battlefield. We will, but if the rumors are true and you have marched towards us against the wishes of your fellow citizens and for wealth and power, I will forgive you this insult because of your old age and allow you to leave Iran unharmed. Crassus proudly answers: I will answer the king in Seleucia The emperor also says that if you find a hair in the palm of my hand, you Romans will also find (or see) Seleucia.
“The Persians arrows flew with such force and precision that they seemed to darken the sky, and the Romans could neither escape nor retaliate effectively.” “They [the Parthians] did not engage at close quarters, as the Romans desired, but kept riding around them, shooting from afar; and they inflicted wounds upon their enemies of which no notice was taken at the time, but from which they later perished.” -Plutarch, and Cassius Dio.
@@Techtalk2030 A celebration was held in Armenia for the victory of the Parthians and the sister of Artavazd II and Pakur, the king's son Suddenly, a soldier in battle uniform entered the party and announced the victory of Sorna to the kings and queens while holding the head of Crassus, a person who was going to play with a fake head took the head of Crassus from the soldier and played with it. did, which made the king happy and gave him many gifts. But Sorna announced in Seleucia that she had taken Crassus alive; Because he wanted to set up a mocking scene as a sign of victory and ridicule of the Romans; Therefore, he dressed one of the captives named "Caius Pastianus", who was very similar to Crassus, in women's clothes and taught him to answer if Crassus or the commander called him. So they put him on a horse and a number of women's drums and women's drums set off ahead of him. Officers riding on camels were placed around him, and before riding, they moved the whip and ax that were the symbols of the Roman consulate. Around each group of Seleucid women, dancing and singing, mockingly described Crassus' war and his feminine and uncourageous morals.
@@shaunnazari1961 The Parthians were people, not dynasty Their leader, the Arsacids, were a dynasty The Parthians were Iranians, yes But not of Persian origin It literally says Parthian, eastern Iranian people The Parthian royal house, the Arsacids, were originally of Parni tribes, another Iranian ethnic group
@@ramtin5152 What the F... difference between Persian and Iranian people? they are ll Iranian and they have the same origin !!! Persia was name of the first Metropolitan of the first Iranian Dynasty known to history and the Greek historians were the first to address Iran and Iranian Empire and because of that the West called Iran The Persia untill 1933 !!! they are all Iranian and they proud to be Iranian no matther where they are from !!! Median, Persian and Pathian tribes are Iranian !!! all of them sereved Iran and it's people and this is something that enemy of Iranian never understand !!! The Great Iran is rising again !!!
@@shaunnazari1961 The Iranian people have several different branches Persians are only one branch Persia, was a name that was mistakingly given to Iran due to the Achaemenids rising from Pars/Persis and them being of Persian origin Ever seen anyone call, for example, the Iranian Sakas/Scythians, Persian ? No, because they're a different branch of Iranians, the Saka branch Many of Iranians today still mistakingly think there's no difference between Iranian and Persian while in fact, the Persians are only one branch of several different branches of the Iranian people
I born to the ancient village the same as Spartacus.thracean I s at that tijujume half Greece and half thacean but they speak Greek Until now he was leader many yrs liberate all slaves npt t make his empire but for freedom that things happens only because all following him until last breath death.
The Romans just weren't ready for dealing with this style of warfare, they should have brought more skirmishers. Big mistake bringing such an infantry heavy force.
They had 4,000 skirmishers such as slingers and archers, 4,000 light cavalry and 35,000 Roman legionaries The Parthians had 9,000 horse archers and 1,000 heavily armed and armored cataphracts I think it was a fair fight and that the Romans had enough skirmishers
Parthians are not Persians. Persians at that time had not yet become the ruling people. You will not call or say that Europeans are Germans, since there are many peoples in Europe.
Dosent get talked about enough how the dude was so wealthy he was able to raise an entire army capable of conquering one of Roman’s “near peer” adversaries at the time.
Crassus, got rich by controlling the trade of grains from Egypt and North Africa to Rome. Bread was the most common food item in Italy. His two "buddies" who he ruled Rome with were two really brilliant generals : Pompey, and Caesar. He was jealous of their military achievement s.
What happened with the 10,000 captured Roman legionaries? Where they used (forced) by Parthians to fight at the Parthian eastern border with China? Do anyone knows? Was this the first time Romans meet Chinese?
they ended up in Merv but the meeeting with Chinese is a sinologist theory not really substantiated based on a word on chinese chronicles and some battle scenes
What could the Romans have done differently to win? Once they realized the force they were fighting, is there a strategy to counter their speed and distant attacks? Or is retreat the only option?
Well if the defender have effective foot archer they can counter that. Even for very trained horse archers, horse back is still much less stable than ground, so their accuracy would be lower and would have to spend more time to aim, while foot archer can shoot down the bigger targets. But yeah it would require effective archers, which at the time the West lack of as they don' t have Eastern compound bows.
Depends on the battlefield. It has to be open Depends on the age. Bronze Age was not good for arrows. There was a textile & glue armour, used by the Macedonian armies. It was the pressed steel of the Romans that defeated them. The Macedonian army of Alexander the Great tour through Parthia
What's wild, is even with this awesome representation, it's nothing like how big the legion/army truly would be. They'd be stretched over kilometers. Either length wise in battle formation, or long wise in marching formation. Just insane to think about. These kind of videos do get closer than really anything before.
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Many were pumped up numbers and were different depending on the source. Logistics alone would prevent huge battles taking place often. Not saying they didnt, but more often than not the numbers were pumped up and even sometimes noncombatants were added to further increase the #'s
Western battles were nothing in comparison to size seen in eastern civilizations like India and china remember India and china was always home to more than 60 percent of humanity in last 6000 years
@@Techtalk2030 We'll probably have this discussion even more because this claim is incorrect Not that they didn't claim ancestry but this was only for their legitimacy
@@Techtalk2030 That doesn't matter Shah Ismail called himself a Turk in one of his poems despite all of his father side ancestors being Kurdish (who are Iranian people) and most of his mother side ancestors being of Georgian and some even of Greek origins Only his maternal grandfather was Turkic So is he a Turk just because he said so ? Even though there was barely anything Turkish about him ? Is he a Turk to you judging by your logic ? He also spoke and wrote in both Farsi and Turkish but Turkish was only spoken in the army while literature, court, education lingua franca, local and official language was Farsi in his empire
An ordinary shield was not enough. Later the shield were covered with silk and saved many deaths and injuries. The arches of Parthia had a lot of strength, just like later de longbow.
To była pierwsza wersja długiego łuku. Zapomniano o 2 sprawach - zasięgu łuku i ilości strzał. Łucznik rzymski miał w kołczanie 30 strzał i po wystrzelaniu był bezbronny. Partom dowożono strzały wozami i mieli zawsze do nich dostęp. Bitwa trwała 2 dni
this video was really well made, and i loved the visuals! however, i can't help but think that the Romans' tactics seem overly reliant on heavy infantry. considering the Parthians’ cavalry prowess, wouldn't a more mobile strategy have been more effective? just my two cents!
Crassus was a fool. He had alternatives to marching right through the desert. He was too prideful to take advice from a vassal though, took a golden shower instead
@@TangoCharlie-s3b Mark Antony attacked the Parthians through Armenia and look what happened According to Plutarch, out of his 127,000 men, 45,000 died, Romans lost another battle called Urumia 36 BC, his 13,000 Armenian soldiers left him, allied with a rebel Median king but his troops lost again and this time lost Armenia too
@@rc8937 Spartacus died fighting for his and his men's freedom Crassus died fighting for his own greed Surena was betrayed by his own king he served so loyaly but at least he saved his country Iran from a Roman invasion
@@ramtin5152 I would argue Spartacus died fighting for his and his men's greed too. The slave army he commanded had reached the Alps and could have escaped to freedom but decided to turn back to plunder Italy further. Yes, Surena was a better man, but he served a regime that rewarded both success and failure with the same fate.
What gets me is that even his son could be drawn into a trap. Based on the desire for glory and power they (Crassus and his son) both suffered death and humiliation. Crassus, for his other triumphs in battle during the Spartacus War and Social Wars, decided on a foolish venture like this? He showed no gallantry or leadership pushing several legions into a nightmare like this. He paid no attention to the advice of others.
Plutarch doesn't say that Surena had 10,000 men under his command. He says that his retinue was 10,000. The Parthian army was larger than the Roman one according to the sources.
Crassus sacrificed tens of thousands of Romans just for the sake of personal prestige. His arrogance made him make incredibly stupid mistakes like not paying attention to the need for water when in a hot foreign desert. Arrogance makes stupid.
Crassus was ignorant even for a Roman, it shows money doesn't buy you common sense or tactical nouse, his ego and ambitions outweighed his ability as a leader, tactician and general.
@@WarAndHistory. The battles fought and won by the Romans under Germanicus to avenge the defeat at Teutoburg forest would be great and epic There are 3 or 4 of them if I'm not mistaken
Cannae was not the costliest defeat in Roman history. Their greatest defeat happened during the Cimbrian War. According to Livy, the Romans lost 80K men fighting against the Cimbri and Teutons at the Battle of Arausio in 105 BC. Instead of marching on Rome after the battle, the barbarians decided to leave Italy and invade Spain. This gave the Romans time to rebuild their legions and implement the Marian reforms.
@@rc8937 Casualties aren't always everything By defeating the Romans (who at the time were way more powerful than when fighting Hannibal) and killing Crassus in Carrhae, the Parthians (unintentionally) created a power vacuum in Rome and the Romans entered a civil war that lasted for over two decades which eventually led to the fall of the Roman republic
@@ramtin5152 Yes, one must define the metric(s) being used to describe "costliest" or "greatest" defeat. If it's casualties alone, then the Battle of Arausio was the costliest for Rome. Since that battle occurred long before Carrhae, one could argue that it was the greatest defeat (beyond casualties) since it led to the Marian reforms of the Roman legions. Those reforms enabled the rise of powerful warlords like Marius, Sulla, Pompey, and Caesar who collectively doomed the Roman Republic.
"Those Romans think they're minted, but they ain't rich like meee You can't call yourself loaded 'til you can buy an armeee Ran Rome with Pompey and Caesar; they're more famous than meee But I'm the worlds richest geezer, there's no-one richer than meeeee! I'm minted..." Marcus Licinius Crassus, c. 50 BCE (according to BBC's Horrible Histories)
Imagine your in the seconde roman line the guy in front of you gets an arrow in the eye and falls now you have to take his place what goes through your mind
Wide desert, long marches into enemy territory, horse archers, endless arrows. This battle could have happened 100 times and the Romans would never have won. The only thing I can think of is that they would have brought a large contingent of auxiliary archers and large reserves of arrows, and spearmen to counter the cataphracts.
@rrhalo And do you know what happened after Ventidius campaign ? Mark Antony attacked the Parthian empire with 127,000 men while the Parthians only had 40,000-50,000 men and not only Mark Antony failed to conquer anything in their borders, according to Plutarch, lost 45,000 of his soldiers to the Parthians, lost battle of Urumia 36 BC, was abandoned by his 13,000 Armenian allies and many of his men surrendered to the Parthians but were executed by them in front of the legionaries Antony allied with a Median rebel king but their troops were defeated by the Parthians and their Armenian allies and the Romans lost control over Armenia to the Parthians
@rrhalo Tell me exactly what damage did Ventidius victory inflicted to the Parthians ? Nothing Carrhae caused 25 years of civil war between the Romans with the power vacuum it created which eventually lead to the fall of the Roman republic
@@stsk1061 Unlike what most people might think, Trajan's achievements in Mesopotamia weren't as great as his victories in Dacia He didn't even fight any battles there like he did in Dacia and faced no Parthian royal army or any army sent by the king He just besieged cities with his vast army The Parthian empire at the time was divided in two with the eastern parts and some of the central provinces being taken by Vologases III and the western parts such as Mesopotamia, Atropatene, Media, Khuzistan/Elam and Armenia being taken by a usurper king called Osroes I (the one who started the war) Trajan attacked the Parthian empire when the Parthians were in a civil war (both because of the Parthian Osroes I who rebelled against the Parthian king and betrayed the treaty of Rhandeia) and were very weakened but still lost all the conquered cities to Iranian rebels and some soldiers after he left Even during Trajan's invasion, the Parthians gained some victories Trajan failed to take Hatra, which avoided a total Parthian defeat and he himself was wounded during that siege Plus aside from Ctesiphon and Susa, the Parthians had five other capitals in the mainland great Iran behind Zagros mountains The Parthian forces attacked key Roman positions, and Roman garrisons at Seleucia, Nisibis and Edessa were evicted by the local populaces and the Romans were pushed out of Mesopotamia with the defeat of Trajan's puppet king by the Parthians who reconquered all the territories that were lost to Rome during the invasion The treaty of Rhandeia which was agreed between the Parthians and Romans after the Roman defeat at the battle of Rhandeia was honored by Trajan's successor again According to this treaty, the Parthians choose a prince of the Arsacid dynasty as the king of Armenia and his crown was given to him by Romans (although the Parthians coronated the prince first in their own land) His invasion ended in a stalemate at best
Based on this video, there must have been a sh!t ton of friendly fire casualties. I'd be interested to know the percentage of deaths from friend vs foe.
During the Roman-Parthian Wars, Ctesiphon,the Persian capital,fell three times to the Romans,in 115, in 165,in 197 and later fell once during Sasanian rule times,in 298.So,overall, the cataphracts and the horse archers did not fare that well against Roman Legions.The Parthian's or the Sasanian never touched Italian soil,did not even have a fleet as the Roman Navy was the sole player in the Mediterranean for centuries.Rome lost some battles but WON EVERY WAR for a nearly a thousand years.
nevertheless Rome never has a power in that region, it was another world. Also Rome lost at least one emperor (Valerian vs Shapur) who was captured in the battle.
Rom was not only italian, the loose many time there ost provinces ( syria, turkey and...) and they loost 2 Emperor in battle, that never happend in all Roman history bevor and after..
SOME (arrows) managed to slip through the cracks causing causing MANY casualties. Yeah, right. One arrow pierced a soldier and his comrades died of heart attacks.
Sorena was a great general The Roman historians downplayed size of roman army to make this look more equal battle If 10,000 soldiers was captured the number of those that died or ran away was for sure much much more than 30,000
If you learn something from AgesofEmpires and Total War then that you dont bring a heavy infantry army against horse archers. If your enemy has any micro, you'll never be able to touch them. The solution to that is really to bring either walls, skorpions/ cataphults or spec into gunpowder 😂 Like the saying goes 'never bring a knive to a gunfight'
В Парфии шла гражданская война, Красс хотел помочь одной из сторон и в качестве платы получить богатые земли и города региона или взять их силой, но не успел. Гражданская война к началу его похода закончилась, он ожидал тяжёлую кавалерию от союзной Армении, но не дождался -- парфяне провели наступление против армян и принудили их к миру. Благоприятное время для наступления было упущено, началась адская жара, которая так же играла на руку парфянам воевавшим на своей земле и более привычным к такому климату.
I cannot imagine the progression of feeling. From the confidence of being surrounded by 40,000 well trained men, to seeing my sons head on a pike, to then witnessing my forces being decimated and feeling my own life in immediate danger. Gut wrenching. I know Crassus was not a good man, but by god, what a fate.
Haha so the legend goes Crassus was fed his gold in a molten porridge straight down the gullet, such was his greed
not forgot just some days ago being considered "all powerful " and "Worlds most wealthiest man".
Why the expression: "crass error" found its definition in this battle: Underestimating the opponent! Congratulations on the video and contextualization!
Made Spartacus's day no doubt
I believe that by this stage Kirk Douglas was nothing more than dried bones.
Spartacus was long dead at that point.
Crassus after a slow start, annihilated, the slave rebellion and had ten thousand crucified along the main road into Rome. Spartacus body was never identified. Crassus was the winner, in spades.
Made you absolutely impossible to count the years before the Christ
@imcitizenoftheworld Anyone with an IQ over single digits doesn't need a made up deity in order to count numbers....
Great work as always Bellum ET Historia
Great updated version.
Correspondence of the Iranian emperor and Crassus:🇮🇷🇮🇹
The king of kings wrote to Crassus and inquired the reason for his enmity, and mentioned that this war was the will of Crassus or the Roman government, the great king wrote, If you have come to our war on behalf of Rome, we will meet each other on the battlefield. We will, but if the rumors are true and you have marched towards us against the wishes of your fellow citizens and for wealth and power, I will forgive you this insult because of your old age and allow you to leave Iran unharmed.
Crassus proudly answers: I will answer the king in Seleucia
The emperor also says that if you find a hair in the palm of my hand, you Romans will also find (or see) Seleucia.
“The Persians arrows flew with such force and precision that they seemed to darken the sky, and the Romans could neither escape nor retaliate effectively.”
“They [the Parthians] did not engage at close quarters, as the Romans desired, but kept riding around them, shooting from afar; and they inflicted wounds upon their enemies of which no notice was taken at the time, but from which they later perished.”
-Plutarch, and Cassius Dio.
@@Techtalk2030
A celebration was held in Armenia for the victory of the Parthians and the sister of Artavazd II and Pakur, the king's son
Suddenly, a soldier in battle uniform entered the party and announced the victory of Sorna to the kings and queens while holding the head of Crassus, a person who was going to play with a fake head took the head of Crassus from the soldier and played with it. did, which made the king happy and gave him many gifts.
But Sorna announced in Seleucia that she had taken Crassus alive; Because he wanted to set up a mocking scene as a sign of victory and ridicule of the Romans; Therefore, he dressed one of the captives named "Caius Pastianus", who was very similar to Crassus, in women's clothes and taught him to answer if Crassus or the commander called him. So they put him on a horse and a number of women's drums and women's drums set off ahead of him. Officers riding on camels were placed around him, and before riding, they moved the whip and ax that were the symbols of the Roman consulate. Around each group of Seleucid women, dancing and singing, mockingly described Crassus' war and his feminine and uncourageous morals.
Парфяне- туркмены! Не персы!
@@Мамлюк-б6э They have nothing to do with turkmen 🤣
What's next ? God is turk too ? 🤣
@@Мамлюк-б6э They're Iranian, they had nothing to do with turks who were living in Mongolia
I really enjoyed this. Well done.
Iran's parthian was the nightmare of rome' emperors
That was the Sassanid Persians
The Arsacid Parthians mostly fought in their own lands
@@ramtin5152 Parthian Dynasty was the Iranian dynasty from 247BC to 224 AD !!! Good to know the history !!!
@@shaunnazari1961 The Parthians were people, not dynasty
Their leader, the Arsacids, were a dynasty
The Parthians were Iranians, yes
But not of Persian origin
It literally says Parthian, eastern Iranian people
The Parthian royal house, the Arsacids, were originally of Parni tribes, another Iranian ethnic group
@@ramtin5152 What the F... difference between Persian and Iranian people? they are ll Iranian and they have the same origin !!! Persia was name of the first Metropolitan of the first Iranian Dynasty known to history and the Greek historians were the first to address Iran and Iranian Empire and because of that the West called Iran The Persia untill 1933 !!! they are all Iranian and they proud to be Iranian no matther where they are from !!! Median, Persian and Pathian tribes are Iranian !!! all of them sereved Iran and it's people and this is something that enemy of Iranian never understand !!! The Great Iran is rising again !!!
@@shaunnazari1961 The Iranian people have several different branches
Persians are only one branch
Persia, was a name that was mistakingly given to Iran due to the Achaemenids rising from Pars/Persis and them being of Persian origin
Ever seen anyone call, for example, the Iranian Sakas/Scythians, Persian ? No, because they're a different branch of Iranians, the Saka branch
Many of Iranians today still mistakingly think there's no difference between Iranian and Persian while in fact, the Persians are only one branch of several different branches of the Iranian people
Love these historical battle animations.
Didn't you already make a video about this battle ? And it was sure a damn successful one, it got 3.8 MILLION views
yes this is the remastered version ( better version )
I love the comments. I thought about Spartacus as well.
I born to the ancient village the same as Spartacus.thracean I s at that tijujume half Greece and half thacean but they speak Greek
Until now he was leader many yrs liberate all slaves npt t make his empire but for freedom that things happens only because all following him until last breath death.
Miért gondoltok spartacusra?
Because Crassus had defeated Spartacus. Here the Parthians took revenge on Spartacus @@Nagyhusi
The Romans just weren't ready for dealing with this style of warfare, they should have brought more skirmishers. Big mistake bringing such an infantry heavy force.
They had 4,000 skirmishers such as slingers and archers, 4,000 light cavalry and 35,000 Roman legionaries
The Parthians had 9,000 horse archers and 1,000 heavily armed and armored cataphracts
I think it was a fair fight and that the Romans had enough skirmishers
These Persia 'knights' inspired the later Roman Cataphractarii and Clibanari.
True
The Romans under Lucullus encountered Armernian cataphracts earlier at the battle of Tigranocerta in 69 BC.
Nem Perzsák! Pártusok. (Hunok rokonai)
Parthians are not Persians. Persians at that time had not yet become the ruling people. You will not call or say that Europeans are Germans, since there are many peoples in Europe.
@@AssetBV parthian are persians
Dosent get talked about enough how the dude was so wealthy he was able to raise an entire army capable of conquering one of Roman’s “near peer” adversaries at the time.
Crassus, got rich by controlling the trade of grains from Egypt and North Africa to Rome. Bread was the most common food item in Italy. His two "buddies" who he ruled Rome with were two really brilliant generals : Pompey, and Caesar. He was jealous of their military achievement s.
I thought during the video when he said that he raised the army himself, dude chill and enjoy the riches.
What happened with the 10,000 captured Roman legionaries? Where they used (forced) by Parthians to fight at the Parthian eastern border with China? Do anyone knows? Was this the first time Romans meet Chinese?
Good questions
they ended up in Merv but the meeeting with Chinese is a sinologist theory not really substantiated based on a word on chinese chronicles and some battle scenes
When a large but predictable and static force meets a smaller but highly mobile and unpredictable one.
What could the Romans have done differently to win? Once they realized the force they were fighting, is there a strategy to counter their speed and distant attacks? Or is retreat the only option?
Amazing how for hundreds of years, the horse archer was the most effective force on the battlefield. The best of mobility and firepower.
now bows are guns
Until they invented crossbows.
Well if the defender have effective foot archer they can counter that. Even for very trained horse archers, horse back is still much less stable than ground, so their accuracy would be lower and would have to spend more time to aim, while foot archer can shoot down the bigger targets. But yeah it would require effective archers, which at the time the West lack of as they don' t have Eastern compound bows.
@XunqiZhang The Romans had Syrian and Cretan archers. The problem in this battle is the infantry is in the open plans surrounded by cavalry.
Depends on the battlefield. It has to be open
Depends on the age. Bronze Age was not good for arrows. There was a textile & glue armour, used by the Macedonian armies. It was the pressed steel of the Romans that defeated them. The Macedonian army of Alexander the Great tour through Parthia
What's wild, is even with this awesome representation, it's nothing like how big the legion/army truly would be. They'd be stretched over kilometers. Either length wise in battle formation, or long wise in marching formation. Just insane to think about. These kind of videos do get closer than really anything before.
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amazing
Fantastic presentation
Never knew Lucius Vorenus participated in the Battle of Carrhae. You can hear him shouting orders.
Roman's really tried the infamous "Noob Square" tactic...
Devastating defeat...
Respect to Rome either way from a Persian. Rome and the western states modeled after it have always had good discipline and professionalism.
Wonder what deploying a field or two of caltrops would have done to blunt the initial charge would have done?
Nice
I loved the choice of lazlo cravensworth as narrator
You would have to put Farya Faraji's epic symphony about Carrhae 53 BC.
it really is absolutely insane how massive the battles of the bronze/iron age were
Many were pumped up numbers and were different depending on the source. Logistics alone would prevent huge battles taking place often. Not saying they didnt, but more often than not the numbers were pumped up and even sometimes noncombatants were added to further increase the #'s
@@mauricelevonteThey didn't happen often. Pitched battles happened maybe once or twice a year.
Western battles were nothing in comparison to size seen in eastern civilizations like India and china remember India and china was always home to more than 60 percent of humanity in last 6000 years
@@ayushkumar-bg1xf The Roman Empire was bigger than either China or India.
What are the mods used for the Parthian units
How did you get these many troops in TW? What mods are you running
Parthians claimed to be descended of Achaemenid Persians like Cyrus and Artaxerxes, so they were Achaemenid Persians revived.
@@Techtalk2030 They weren't even from the same branch of the Iranian people let alone being the descendants of the Achaemenids
@@ramtin5152 bro we had this discussion like 5 times now
@@Techtalk2030 We'll probably have this discussion even more because this claim is incorrect
Not that they didn't claim ancestry but this was only for their legitimacy
@ they claimed to be descended of the Achaemenids even after their fall. All the Parthian houses claimed it. Im gonna go based on their word
@@Techtalk2030 That doesn't matter
Shah Ismail called himself a Turk in one of his poems despite all of his father side ancestors being Kurdish (who are Iranian people) and most of his mother side ancestors being of Georgian and some even of Greek origins
Only his maternal grandfather was Turkic
So is he a Turk just because he said so ? Even though there was barely anything Turkish about him ? Is he a Turk to you judging by your logic ?
He also spoke and wrote in both Farsi and Turkish but Turkish was only spoken in the army while literature, court, education lingua franca, local and official language was Farsi in his empire
I take it that dying on the battlefield was better than being taken as a prisoner.
An ordinary shield was not enough. Later the shield were covered with silk and saved many deaths and injuries. The arches of Parthia had a lot of strength, just like later de longbow.
To była pierwsza wersja długiego łuku. Zapomniano o 2 sprawach - zasięgu łuku i ilości strzał. Łucznik rzymski miał w kołczanie 30 strzał i po wystrzelaniu był bezbronny. Partom dowożono strzały wozami i mieli zawsze do nich dostęp. Bitwa trwała 2 dni
A recurved laminated bow, which the Mongols later used. Very clever and powerful
Great.
4:00 Lucius Vorenus, the Hero of Carrhae
He forgot all about resupply and water.
catifracts??? when you use an arcane term, you need to define it. or explain it.
2:59 Why did Roman army panic to hear Parthian army's presence?
this video was really well made, and i loved the visuals! however, i can't help but think that the Romans' tactics seem overly reliant on heavy infantry. considering the Parthians’ cavalry prowess, wouldn't a more mobile strategy have been more effective? just my two cents!
Crassus was a fool. He had alternatives to marching right through the desert. He was too prideful to take advice from a vassal though, took a golden shower instead
@@TangoCharlie-s3b Mark Antony attacked the Parthians through Armenia and look what happened
According to Plutarch, out of his 127,000 men, 45,000 died, Romans lost another battle called Urumia 36 BC, his 13,000 Armenian soldiers left him, allied with a rebel Median king but his troops lost again and this time lost Armenia too
Golden shower 🤣🤣😂😂
That's what you get for killing Spartacus, CrASSus.
Yes, but what did Surena get for his victory?
@@rc8937he served Persia well
@@rc8937 Spartacus died fighting for his and his men's freedom
Crassus died fighting for his own greed
Surena was betrayed by his own king he served so loyaly but at least he saved his country Iran from a Roman invasion
@@Techtalk2030 Was Persia served well by getting rid of Surena though?
@@ramtin5152 I would argue Spartacus died fighting for his and his men's greed too. The slave army he commanded had reached the Alps and could have escaped to freedom but decided to turn back to plunder Italy further.
Yes, Surena was a better man, but he served a regime that rewarded both success and failure with the same fate.
WHERE DIDTHEY USE THE BATHROOM
😆😂🤣
A fair bit of the script is lifted off wikipedia, but otherwise I love the improved version.
I would militarily rank Parthians as the third strongest Iranian empires after Achaemenid and Sassanids empires respectively.
What gets me is that even his son could be drawn into a trap. Based on the desire for glory and power they (Crassus and his son) both suffered death and humiliation. Crassus, for his other triumphs in battle during the Spartacus War and Social Wars, decided on a foolish venture like this? He showed no gallantry or leadership pushing several legions into a nightmare like this. He paid no attention to the advice of others.
To be in the frontline, the ultimate test
Hi greetings from Greece Sparta
Crassus was powerful and wealthy but he sure did zero research about his enemies.
The arrogance of Crassus backfired severely!
Отличный пример превосходства восточного оружия над западным.
Plutarch doesn't say that Surena had 10,000 men under his command. He says that his retinue was 10,000.
The Parthian army was larger than the Roman one according to the sources.
Kann mir jemand erklären wie so große Truppen stärken in der wüste versorgt wurden. Wie wurde Wasser für so viele Soldaten und Pferde heran geschaft?🤔
Crassus sacrificed tens of thousands of Romans just for the sake of personal prestige. His arrogance made him make incredibly stupid mistakes like not paying attention to the need for water when in a hot foreign desert. Arrogance makes stupid.
Crassus was ignorant even for a Roman, it shows money doesn't buy you common sense or tactical nouse, his ego and ambitions outweighed his ability as a leader, tactician and general.
Good vid and the results where prob correct but do be really know what happened, it was al long time ago.
It is funny how they travel in a fighting formation! 😂
Bro why you only post videos of batles were the roman lost, its very painful to me, please put some victory of them.
Did you watch the battle of watling street?
@@WarAndHistory. The battles fought and won by the Romans under Germanicus to avenge the defeat at Teutoburg forest would be great and epic
There are 3 or 4 of them if I'm not mistaken
@@WarAndHistory. I was just joking bro hahah, and keep it up with the videos, these are the best. Good luck!
🎩Hi. A shout out to the people who did the animation. 👍🏻
Seen the original version of the battle, this is well thought of. It's great. This battle was the costliest in Rome's history after Cannae.
Cannae was not the costliest defeat in Roman history. Their greatest defeat happened during the Cimbrian War.
According to Livy, the Romans lost 80K men fighting against the Cimbri and Teutons at the Battle of Arausio in 105 BC.
Instead of marching on Rome after the battle, the barbarians decided to leave Italy and invade Spain. This gave the Romans time to rebuild their legions and implement the Marian reforms.
@@rc8937 Casualties aren't always everything
By defeating the Romans (who at the time were way more powerful than when fighting Hannibal) and killing Crassus in Carrhae, the Parthians (unintentionally) created a power vacuum in Rome and the Romans entered a civil war that lasted for over two decades which eventually led to the fall of the Roman republic
@@ramtin5152 Yes, one must define the metric(s) being used to describe "costliest" or "greatest" defeat. If it's casualties alone, then the Battle of Arausio was the costliest for Rome.
Since that battle occurred long before Carrhae, one could argue that it was the greatest defeat (beyond casualties) since it led to the Marian reforms of the Roman legions. Those reforms enabled the rise of powerful warlords like Marius, Sulla, Pompey, and Caesar who collectively doomed the Roman Republic.
It is Sorena ❤️🤍💚
"Those Romans think they're minted, but they ain't rich like meee
You can't call yourself loaded 'til you can buy an armeee
Ran Rome with Pompey and Caesar; they're more famous than meee
But I'm the worlds richest geezer, there's no-one richer than meeeee!
I'm minted..."
Marcus Licinius Crassus, c. 50 BCE (according to BBC's Horrible Histories)
Crassus: "Ooops!!"
I indeed identify as a descendant of one of these romans who were captured
Imagine your in the seconde roman line the guy in front of you gets an arrow in the eye and falls now you have to take his place what goes through your mind
This was the Crassus Belli
Bruh the new rome games ruined the testudo formation they’re not forming a testudo they’re just raising their shields
That's because they were never put into testudo even in real history.
@Fatherofheroesandheroines youre saying the romans never used the formation in actual combat, or was the formation a myth?
Can you do the mongoles?
Parthians were amazing!
I thought the noob square was only in Total War games.
There' one hell of a lot of bones on that wasteland 😢😢
Anyone played with the mods listed and are they listed in the correct load order, this game looks amazing haha
Cataphract attacks do not work that way ... and the animation of Testudo ... was not a turtle formation.
Persian 😊
Мы Вернемся Зрелыми и Мудрыми! БОЛЬШОЙ ПРИВЕТ ИЗ СОЛНЕЧНОГО ТАДЖИКИСТАНА! АРИАНА ЕЩЁ ВОЗРОДИТЬСЯ ☝️
Wide desert, long marches into enemy territory, horse archers, endless arrows. This battle could have happened 100 times and the Romans would never have won. The only thing I can think of is that they would have brought a large contingent of auxiliary archers and large reserves of arrows, and spearmen to counter the cataphracts.
Parthians were harshly retributed after a few years, onslaughted as well. Romans showed no mercy at all.
😂
@rrhalo And do you know what happened after Ventidius campaign ? Mark Antony attacked the Parthian empire with 127,000 men while the Parthians only had 40,000-50,000 men and not only Mark Antony failed to conquer anything in their borders, according to Plutarch, lost 45,000 of his soldiers to the Parthians, lost battle of Urumia 36 BC, was abandoned by his 13,000 Armenian allies and many of his men surrendered to the Parthians but were executed by them in front of the legionaries
Antony allied with a Median rebel king but their troops were defeated by the Parthians and their Armenian allies and the Romans lost control over Armenia to the Parthians
@rrhalo Tell me exactly what damage did Ventidius victory inflicted to the Parthians ? Nothing
Carrhae caused 25 years of civil war between the Romans with the power vacuum it created which eventually lead to the fall of the Roman republic
@@ramtin5152Traianus took Ctesiphon eventually.
@@stsk1061 Unlike what most people might think, Trajan's achievements in Mesopotamia weren't as great as his victories in Dacia
He didn't even fight any battles there like he did in Dacia and faced no Parthian royal army or any army sent by the king
He just besieged cities with his vast army
The Parthian empire at the time was divided in two with the eastern parts and some of the central provinces being taken by Vologases III and the western parts such as Mesopotamia, Atropatene, Media, Khuzistan/Elam and Armenia being taken by a usurper king called Osroes I (the one who started the war)
Trajan attacked the Parthian empire when the Parthians were in a civil war (both because of the Parthian Osroes I who rebelled against the Parthian king and betrayed the treaty of Rhandeia) and were very weakened but still lost all the conquered cities to Iranian rebels and some soldiers after he left
Even during Trajan's invasion, the Parthians gained some victories
Trajan failed to take Hatra, which avoided a total Parthian defeat and he himself was wounded during that siege
Plus aside from Ctesiphon and Susa, the Parthians had five other capitals in the mainland great Iran behind Zagros mountains
The Parthian forces attacked key Roman positions, and Roman garrisons at Seleucia, Nisibis and Edessa were evicted by the local populaces and the Romans were pushed out of Mesopotamia with the defeat of Trajan's puppet king by the Parthians who reconquered all the territories that were lost to Rome during the invasion
The treaty of Rhandeia which was agreed between the Parthians and Romans after the Roman defeat at the battle of Rhandeia was honored by Trajan's successor again
According to this treaty, the Parthians choose a prince of the Arsacid dynasty as the king of Armenia and his crown was given to him by Romans (although the Parthians coronated the prince first in their own land)
His invasion ended in a stalemate at best
I can tell a Persian that the number of people is not important in the war.
Based on this video, there must have been a sh!t ton of friendly fire casualties. I'd be interested to know the percentage of deaths from friend vs foe.
They captured crassus and poured molten gold down his throat!
He was the original goldfinger!
Stilicho vs alarick, make this video.
한국어 번역이 없는게 좋겠다 잘못된 번역이 내용 이해를 어렵게 한다
During the Roman-Parthian Wars, Ctesiphon,the Persian capital,fell three times to the Romans,in 115, in 165,in 197 and later fell once during Sasanian rule times,in 298.So,overall, the cataphracts and the horse archers did not fare that well against Roman Legions.The Parthian's or the Sasanian never touched Italian soil,did not even have a fleet as the Roman Navy was the sole player in the Mediterranean for centuries.Rome lost some battles but WON EVERY WAR for a nearly a thousand years.
Okay small pp roman fan 😂
nevertheless Rome never has a power in that region, it was another world. Also Rome lost at least one emperor (Valerian vs Shapur) who was captured in the battle.
Rom was not only italian, the loose many time there ost provinces ( syria, turkey and...) and they loost 2 Emperor in battle, that never happend in all Roman history bevor and after..
Crassus Got rich by controlling the grain trade, from Egypt and North Africa to Italy and Rome.
So this is how it would play out if the Roman Legions met the Mongol Hordes?
SOME (arrows) managed to slip through the cracks causing causing MANY casualties.
Yeah, right. One arrow pierced a soldier and his comrades died of heart attacks.
Ahhh Crassus…. 😅
13:11 *than
Ask American University students if they even know who the Romans were . 🤣
Yes we know exactly who they were. Believe half of what you hear my friend 😂
@ I call BS .
@ are you a University student today or recently?
Persian empire was double the size of the Roman empire,
Arap 🦗🦗🦗 cry your ancestors failed miserably in Hyrcania
Sorena ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
It isn't testudo.
For some reason my Rome totalwar 2 from steam is very slow
Sorena was a great general
The Roman historians downplayed size of roman army to make this look more equal battle
If 10,000 soldiers was captured the number of those that died or ran away was for sure much much more than 30,000
If you learn something from AgesofEmpires and Total War then that you dont bring a heavy infantry army against horse archers.
If your enemy has any micro, you'll never be able to touch them.
The solution to that is really to bring either walls, skorpions/ cataphults or spec into gunpowder 😂 Like the saying goes 'never bring a knive to a gunfight'
Wish I had enough funds to raise an army😢
we are so back long live persia
Parthians claimed to be descended of Achaemenid Persians like Cyrus and Artaxerxes, so they were Achaemenid Persians revived.
Raised an army with his own funds? Well, we've all done it at some time or other.
В Парфии шла гражданская война, Красс хотел помочь одной из сторон и в качестве платы получить богатые земли и города региона или взять их силой, но не успел. Гражданская война к началу его похода закончилась, он ожидал тяжёлую кавалерию от союзной Армении, но не дождался -- парфяне провели наступление против армян и принудили их к миру. Благоприятное время для наступления было упущено, началась адская жара, которая так же играла на руку парфянам воевавшим на своей земле и более привычным к такому климату.
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