Caesars Romans Vs Pompey's Romans: Battle of Pharsalus 48 BC | Cinematic
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The Battle of Pharsalus was the decisive battle of Caesar's Civil War fought on 9 August 48 BC near Pharsalus in central Greece. Julius Caesar and his allies formed up opposite the army of the Roman Republic under the command of Pompey. Pompey had the backing of a majority of Roman senators and his army significantly outnumbered the veteran Caesarian legions.
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An alien species could be out there some 2072 light years away with a telescope watching this battle unfold this summer.
Imagine during climax, earth was at opposite dirrection or some sun/ planet blocked the view. I would be pissed😂😂
😂😂😂
And all we get are farting stars
"Caesar was known to be biased in his reports".
The winner always is.
The victors are the usually the authors of history
@@DAVELAD101more like comtemporary powers
" He was a Consul of Rome ! " 🦅
Truth!
Shame! Shame! On the house of Ptolemy. Shame!
Great line and series ROME? Would have been a great series on CEASAR with the stages if they was not destroyed by fire?
Its a very great series! But what I hated about it, that they never showed the battles. Sure because of finacial readons, cause big battles on screen are always expensive, but it would habe been so awesome!
OK fella, don't lose your head over it.
Pompey was at a disadvantage because he was pulled out of retirement, he had not led an army in a while, many of his veteran legions had settled down, and his allied troops were less than reliable fighters. In his day Pompey was a fine officer and General. Now, late in the Republic of Rome, Pompey was ill prepared to face Caesar who had many "recent" years of fighting behind his back. He had reliable men, though fewer in number. It made little difference to the outcome.
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Well, Pompey defeated Caesar at Dyrrachium prior to his own defeat at Pharsalus. I wouldn't say Pompey was at a disadvantage. He had numerical superiority, which is very important. What is more likely is that he simply lost by chance, as ancient battles had a lot of unpredictable stuff. Thus, an army much larger sometimes got defeat by a smaller force. Mark Antony in HBO's Rome described it very accurately, in fact, when Octavian asked him what was going on during the battle at Philippi, he said: No idea. When in doubt, attack! 😂😂😂
Pompeius already successfully fought against Caesar at Dyrrachium. He did not come straight out of retirement.
Pompey had a massive advantage in Cavalry…7000 to Ceasers 1000…..Ceaser knew this and also knew that even these 1000 Cavalry would initially stop the charge of the 7000…..while intense fighting on Mounts Ceasers infantry charged the stationary horses with pilums in hand ….Pompeys horses saw this and Routed …..no horses like charging spears …whether Greek phalanx, these heavy infantry , Scottish Schiltrons or Wellingtons Bayonets at Waterloo….
This is absolutely rubbish. Pompey did not need to fight this battle. He had Caesar where he wanted and knew that he only needed to wait for Caesar to starve himself into submission. The problem was that the senators needed a military victory to show the gods were on their side and to humble Caesar. That is the only reason that this battle was fought.
This show the ingenuity of Caesar's tactical genius.
He had already anticipated that Pompey would soon commence battle due to being pressured by his fellow colleagues to offer battle and crashed Caesar head on, so Caesar being adept at military strategy foreseen the possible ways Pompey could utilize, as he had been expected, his right flank were be the target and the turning point of the battle as the objective in the mind of Pompey, but he didn't anticipated the calculated move by Caesar by placing his hidden second line of spearmen to engage Titus Cavalry once they were locked in battle and had no room to maneuver that became their Achilles heel when Caesar signalled his hidden reserves to engage.
This clearly exhibits the cunning and genius of Julius Caesar in battle, and Pompey being pressured by his peers, they didn't even planned the battle carefully, as beforehand, they were discussing on how would they divide and share Caesar's property within themselves, they didn't not anticipate that Caesar had many tricks to pull himself to used against his enemies, Caesar as being genius and formidable he was.
So true. But pales in comparison to your masterful use of the epic 67-word run on sentence. Possibly a Guinness World Record.
Is it really genius to hold back reserves of spearman for cavalry? When you are outnumbered in terms of cavalry? I feel there is a lot of hindsight in this battle and rewriting to make Caesar seem genius.
The battle must have happened on flat terrain devoid of high vantage points overlooking the battlefield, otherwise Pompeii would have seen the spearmen hiding behind the cavalry.😅
Si sr. La acción de tito labieno ex lugarteniente de cesar en la gallia fue floja.. se dedbando rápido su caballería..
@@notiowegianera un genio....estudiar el asedio de alesia y ratificaras lo que te digo..
I’ll be totally honest. If I participated in these wars I would be dead in 10 seconds or hiding in the back
we all would
Men were different back then
Well if you were to hide in the back you would be the next man to fight since the Romans had a rotary system.
@@DeathReaper-bl6kj I only learned about the men moving to the back by watching Rome , a great idea making sure the next man had time to have a rest before fighting again.
I wonder if other people at that time fought like that,
I was just thinking the same thing! Forget glory, my ass is gone...
This is a brilliant depection of this baffling battle. The chaos, the fog of war is on full display. Kudos for this,
appreciate the kind words
Someday this will be done on a real Holodeck⚔
This video shows how much this type of cinematography has improved. There is more narrative which helps in knowing what is transpiring. The drone shots are a pleasant innovation. And the realism of the progam shows how much the quality of it has improved. However, some spots in the video were too dark.
Thanks a lot 😊
@@WarAndHistory.looks good to me. you can't please every body.
@@WarAndHistory.You must be a real genius.
But they seem to be one big happy family, all those look-a likes.....😆
What “drones”? 😂
How did we manage to get these marvelous movies of such ancient days?
I'm really impressed!
It's from a game called "total war Rome 2
And many mods to improve it
Give thanks to Filmius Cameratus and his crew who risked their lives to record it for posterity.
Just perfect! Very well done
It is very rare to find men like him. Your follower from Saudi Arabia, Hamad
All without Pullo and Vorenus ...
..Apparently after his wife Julia died Pompey became a different man, even though it was supposed to strengthen the alliance between Pompey and Caesar and inspite of the age difference,within a very short time they genuinely loved each other.
Cato, Cicero and other trouble making anti-Caesar fleas were against the marriage and hated it knowing how close they became
They even claimed Pompey was neglecting his work and spending too much time with Julia.
Before marrying her he was a typical old soldier who had no interest in cultural things reading , theatre, music etc
But she changed all that,
I reckon if she hadn't died in childbirth and both her and the child had lived as well as the first child, he would have retired from politics and been happier spending time at home with his family, and enjoyed his gardens and going to the theatre/ reading etc with his wife.
Cato etc were constantly on his case , in his ear all the time dissing Caesar , pushing him to war .
.It's a shame because from what I've read I like Pompey, he seemed a good guy at heart.
He should have lived out his life on his land with a wife he loved that loved him and watching the children that should have lived grow up .
.Instead of being dragged into a war his heart wasn't into and then being murdered and his head chopped off.
He deserved better than that imo .
This is the first I have seen of these cinematic historical battles and I have immediately subscribed..this was amazing! I was on the edge of my seat (even though I knew the outcome) and have learnt a trick to use in playing Total War! Thankyou
Love how you use sounds of Swords clashing & men screaming from HBO Rome
Classic
Well done. Very good film. Factual, and realistic animation of troop movements.
It’s very good but I couldn’t tell who was on pompey soldiers or Caesar’s soldiers
Never mind I finally found out by the shield patterns and color
Very good. In the HBO series Rome, the prelude and aftermath of this battle was shown, but not the battle itself. This was a detailed account of Caesar's strategy to trap Pompey's cavalry and then outflank the whole army. Well done.
I like the way Pompey explains it to Vorenus, with Pullo listening in the background.
"Hit my flank and Rolled them up like a carpet " .
..or something like that :)
“When in doubt, ATTACK!!!!”
‘Do you know what’s going on?’
‘No clue…’
Caesar had vetrans who were extremley hardened, loyal and the victors of Gaul
Bro's reshade preset is unmatched
You need to also point out that Pompey calvary was inexperienced compared to Ceasar calvary, who are made up of Gallic and Germanic and very well experienced.
He did, didn't he?
Great presentation and commentary. Excellent
That was a really cool depiction of battle! Well done! I just subscribed!!!!❤
My history told me that Pompey and the senate fled Rome before Caesar arrived having crossed the Rubicon. He made his way to northern Greece and headed south to await more legions. Caesar had given chase but wrongly guessed Pompey and headed South. Near the south coast of Italy he realised his mistake and hired ships to land his troops on the south coast of Greece and waited for mark Anthony to join him with more men. It was Caesar who then attacked Pompey as he vacillated, hoping more troops would arrive. You stated at the beginning, that Pompey chased Caesar - WRONG
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@ 3:36 "draw swords!" said in an English public school accent.
Great video love seeing total war in the background keep up the good work man
Oh to b there that day. Pure hand to hand. Swords spears arrows . Brutal
0:10)Germanicus Tiberius Julii Caesar was of the clan Juli. They were 1 of the 35 Roman and Etruscan families that ruled Roma. He renamed the 5th month for his family. He added one day from Febuarius.
0:26)9 Sextilius. It was the 6th Roman month with 30 days. Followed by 7, 8, 9, and 10. Then Januarius. Februarius with 30 days. 31 on Leap Year. The year started with Martius. Then Aprilis, Maya and Juno.
1:18) Marcus Antonius.
Never realized that in Roman times, they already master cloning.
grumpy old man!
I love these videos, because all of the comments are supplied by experts.
"See you in the next life" ..
I never noticed that thr first time I watched this video.
I can almost hear someone yelling "13!"
Titus Labienus was a sucker... Cesar trusted him, Pompey trusted him and he let both disappointed.
Great video. I would not like to face Caesers forces with a force of lesser experienced men.
Another excellent video as always! As a suggestion for future videos, you should do the Battle of Kadesh (1274 B.C.E.) and Suppiluliuma vs. Tausret (non-historical) for Pharaoh, the Battle of the Sabis (57 B.C.E.) and Carthage vs. Royal Scythia (non-historical) for Rome II, and the Sack of Aquileia (452 C.E.) and Vandals vs. Picts (non-historical) for Attila. As usual, keep up the good work churning out new videos on both historical and non-historical battles👍!
A man worthy of respect
No doubt
Until you know the rest of his life. You kids only see this “heroic” battles.
Caesar won because some way some how Caesar always won
Caesar always seemed to fight at a huge disadvantage but always stole victory from the jaws of defeat
He’s not remembered as one of the greatest generals of all time for no reason
And all without Vorenus and Pullo
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Помпей был не такой уж и дурак и по своему хитёр, но просто отстал от темпов развития.
Предпосылки победы Цезаря:
1) Стороны были плохо мотивированы убивать почти своих же, но Цезарь умел вдохновить армию целью справедливости и знал цену доброго слова
2) На войско Цезаря давила мысль что противник в численном превосходстве, это прибавляло мужество
3) Цезарь это обман + долгая игра + жречество + политика + аристократ в длинном поколении + превосходство знаний, опыта, + мастерство сложных расчётов (список подлинней чем у Помпея)
Всё остальное второстепенно, по описанию очень не достоверно и не однозначно по отношению современных представлений.
Недостаток Цезаря из-за которого он плохо кончил в итоге, только один, переоценивал степень благоразумия врагов.
Ну и последнее, - я знал его лично и помню то что забыто историей. У него много интересных фраз у которых забыто его авторство.
Pompey was the better man. Yet it was his cautiousness at Dyrrhachium, when he won the fight and could've annihilated Caesar's army, that spelled out his eventual loss at Pharsalus. Rome mourned his fall. And a dictator rose.
Without Julius we won't have Augustus
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And you won't have Caligula, Nero, Domitian and all of the other awful emperors Rome was afflicted with.
So cool. The detail of whatever I looked at within the frame was phenomenal.
EXCELLENT presentation!!! Thank you!!!👍👍👍👍😊
Thanks for this awsome video!!! 😊
I would be interested in how roman soldiers distinguished one another during the battle.
My thoughts exactly.
my best guess was that they were in squads or groups and were familiar with each others faces etc
The infantry behind Caesar´s cavalry were formed by thinning the third line of the cohorts of the three formations led by Anthonius, Sulla and Calvinus. They were not auxiliaries. A legion at full strenght had ten cohorts comprising of six centuries (480 men). One century comprised of six ranks of thirteen men plus one centurion in front and an optio ( the centurion´s second in command behind the rear rank) 80 men in total.
Legions were seldom at full strenght especially on a campaign. Caesar´s eight legions at Pharsalus were severly reduced in strenght numbering in average some 2750 men each. Legio VII and IX were so depleted from the hard fighting at Dyrrhachium that they were positioned close to each other as if to make one single legion of the two. They were also instructed to protect each other.
Caesar discerned Pompey´s plan to outflank him as soon as he saw the enemy cavalry and light troops massed up opposite to his right flank. He withdrew six cohorts from the third line and formed them in an oblique line behind the tenth legion that held the right flank and behind his cavalry. He had thus turned the army into a quadruplex acies a quadruple battleline. The diminished third line was given strict orders not to engage until Caesar signalled it to do so by means of a vexillum banner. A vexillum was a flag-like object used as a military standard by units in the Roman army. A common vexillum displayed imagery of the Roman aquila on a reddish backdrop or could have specific unit markings as well.
Caesar´s cavalry did not engage Pompey´s cavalry but turned and "fled". Pompey´s cavalry divided into individual turmaes and started chasing them in order to turn around and attack the engaged legionsfrom behind. They had not anticipated to meet a fourth battle line now running towards them. The leading turmae panicked, turned around and ran into the following units comming around the flank and caused a massive confusion. Caesar´s infantry had been ordered not to throw their pilas but thrust towards the horsemens faces.
Roman cavalry did not have stirrups, they were not invented yet.
Pompey´s cavalry was now broken by approximately 1700 legionaries and fleeing while Caesar´s fourth line quickly advanced to slaughter the archers that had been following Pompey´s cavalry and then proceded to assault Pompey´s left flank. It was now that Caesar decided his diminished third line should move up and replace the exhausted first and second lines. Pompey had already moved his reserves forward to engage and with Caesar´s fourth line and his returning cavalry joining them their flanking attack caused the Poempyan army to buckle, turn and flee. Some 8000 of Pomepy´s army were killed while many surrendered.
Strength and numbers! Caesar had the strengths while Pompey had the numbers. Caesar knew how to win a battle. Pompey knew who to talk to.😅
Sounds like Caesar had a more energetic plan. Also risky.
I try to think of the clash this would be. The noise would of been deafening
I knew some information,now i am knowing more about it,good video and congratulations,great work.
Pretty awesome video man ngl.
Appreciate it!
Great video. 👍 love total war.
This doesn't reflect accounts of the battle. The key was Caesar's third line of infantry hidden behind his cavalry. Since Pompey's cavalry was not a unified force being from several different civilizations and military types the riders each spoke their native tongue which made control of the force very difficult. Caesar's cavalry charged first, but only to get Pompey's to chase them back to their original starting point where they passed through the third line of infantry all of whom were holding their pila like spears and standing in modified hoplite formation. Already disorganized by the unexpected charge from the smaller force, Pompey's riders and horses were completely shocked as they came upon thousands of spear points blocking their way. The charge turned into a frantic retreat as Caesar's cavalry and third line pursued them. When the third line was abreast of the flanks of Pompey's lines of infantry, they turned left and simply rolled those lines up, turning the battle into a complete rout.
ill be remastering the battle in the future
Caesar followed Pompey to Greece, not the other way around.
Sad brothers against brothers
Pompey was also at a disadvantage as his army consisted of many of the republican elites Cato and the like who argued incessantly with Pompey .Furthermore, Titus Labienus, who had defected to republican side had fought with Caesar in his Gallic campaigns ,Caesar had anticipated Pompeys battle tactics in relation to the cavalry, his Spearmen were armed with extra long spears to combat Labienus's cavalry.
Indeed
How could they tell who was the enemy in a melee
Those poor horses!
tremendously informative and a lot of graphical work done here. kudos to you
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brilliant illustration of a piece of history. well done for the hard work👏
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Seems like the majority of deaths were from sudden, direct thrusts to the throat with a sword. If only they could have trained for that
Wow the Shadowflickering is insane i thougt they would have fixed this
all of things was good thanx for your trouble The resolution was as good as a movie
Ptolemy: I did you a favour, Caesar. He was your enemy. Now help me fight my sister.
Caesar was apparently devastated when he found out that Pompey had been beheaded
Great piece of directing by Zack Snyder .
As I also experienced reading Civil War history, it remains a chore in my mind to think in terms of a grand scale. For example, it's just hard to picture what 1,500 cavalrymen upon 1,500 horses look like. Or the great scope a battle encompassed. In my mind, everything is always so much smaller and abbreviated. It should fit into my little head. That's why this historical battle, like Gettysburg or Shilo, is challenging to effectually appreciate their scope.
I can't imagine what it must have been like as a German soldier in Normandy 1944 scanning the sea through his binoculars from inside one of the bunkers and seeing nothing, then having another look and seeing the whole horizon is a mass of enemy ships and the skies full of fighters and bombers
All heading towards you !!
The largest invasion force the world's ever known..
I don't know if any real life footage exists, but the film
The longest day ( I think its called) gives a good idea of what it was like, the French guy holding his hands over his ears because of the noise of the planes overhead,
That's something I really can't comprehend.
,It wouldn't have surprised me if all the Germans didn't leave their positions and run after seeing that coming at them.
Très belle vidéo historique , very good vidéo
Just look at the discipline of Cesar's troops😮
That was awesome thank you! What a clever MFer Cesar was…
wow that was awesome thank you
I had thought that the standard infantry defence against cavalry was a row of long spears, rooted to the ground and held at an angle to pierce a horse's chest or belly, but perhaps that was a later invention.
The spear equipped Roman soldiers belonged to an earlier era. It was the manipular era with the hastati in the first line, the pricipes in the second line and the old battle hardened spearequipped triarii in the third line. After Marius reformed the legions there were no spearequipped legionaries. They had their pilas that were used for throwing. Auxiliary units might have had spearmen but since they were also trained in Roman battle tactics unlikely they would have had.
But the forces that met Pompey´s cavalry were regular legionaries drawn from the third line of cohorts in the legions that were fighting. They were instructed to thrust their pilas in the faces of the enemy cavalry.
Pompey fled to Egypt, where he was murdered upon landing. He was decapitated, and his head was later presented to Caesar.
indeed
There was another battle taken place beetween Pompeius and Caesar a couple of months before Pharsalos. It was the battle of Dyrrachium and it was won by Pompeius. Caesar's army was defeated and after battle in the evening the caesarians gathered in a tent. Here Caesar turned to his generals and said: this evening our enemy will win if their general knows how to win. However Pompeius made a terrible mistake by not going on to chase Caesar's army to the end. Instead they stopped and celebrated the victory leaving Caesar to recruit and regenerate his army and providing him a second chance. Right before the final clash at Pharsalos Pompeus' men were still celebrating.... their infantry were twice the size of Caesar's and their cavalry were seven times (!) bigger. 7000 cavalrymen vs 1000 !!! Nobody , even Caesar, had expected what happened next...
I live in Durres.... and would like to know more than I know already
Hand to hand combat 😮
Seemed like Caesar's spear men, after routing Labienius's cavalry, had to run a long way to meet Pompey's left flank. Were they really that far away?
Supposed
Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼
thanks
What I have learned from this video is that, apparently, all Roman soldiers looked exactly alike.
Pompey was at a disadvantage called Caesar, magnificent plan
now now, perfectly symmetrical fighting solves nothing.
A meteorite fell around midnight. Caesar saw it
All those troops 😮
The numbers may be accurate. Simply because most of the killing happens after the route, not during the battle. Once fear sets in somewhere and someone starts to panic, its contagious. And once they break formation and run, its no longer a battle, but a slaughter.
Given the shots of hordes of bodies moving forward, I thought it was about the southern border invasion in the US.
Why were they overwhelmed, wasnt it still 7000 for Pompey and 4000 to Caesar on the left flank.
Few plans survive enemy contact. Pompey had enough troops for reserves but rolled the dice on one flanking attack.
Caesar used his men more adroitly and won.
I'm surprised though Pompeys Calvary was bigger than Caesars when the two calvaries clashed and then Caesars retreated were Caesar's spearman were waiting for them I'm surprised they didn't have enough Spears or javelins to throw into the oncoming Calvary of Pompeys two weekend them even more at least that's what I would have done!
Lad 3 legiones de cesar eran veteranas y curtidas en la conquista de la galia, no podían compararse con lis reclutas de pompeyo....la batalla de decidió en poco tiempo a favor de cesar...
The spearman hiding behind the cavalry... Didn't Alexander the Great do that when he took down the persons?
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Glad you like it!
Very nice!
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Most excellent 👌🏼❤
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Nicely done.
Great video
Caesar had Asterix and Obelix as his Auxiliaries 😅
Awesome portrait of this famous battle
Caesar's victory is all the more impressive given Pompey didn't actually make any serious mistake. It seems to have been down to a combination of Caesar's genuine brilliance, his tougher more battle hardened troops, the poor quality of Pompey's flank, and poor old Pompey himself, being rusty.
Pompey was also burdened by having a lot of Roman senators in his camp, each providing "advice" to Pompey, Cicero among them. Pompey was reluctant to offer battle to Caesar at Pharsalus, and his instinct was right.
Very good
Plutarco é bem claro sobre esta batalha, César previu que Pompéu usaria sua vantagem em cavalaria
Como a cavalaria era formada por jovens nobres e vaidosos temian muito a lança em direção a seus rostos, e debandaram com meto da motivação de seus rostos.
Best video about this battle I’ve ever seen!!!!!! 😮😮😮😮😮
Para mí Pompeyo es el más grande general romano, tenía más hazañas en batallas...
El autor de este vídeo ha respetado la verdad de los hechos.ha puesto el combate en líneas cerradas y un buen detalle que se oyen los silbatos que los centuriones usaban para ordenar los relevos de las filas en el combate cuerpo a cuerpo.