@@robhamilton2506 Thank you very much, I appreciate that and appreciate u taking the time to check em out!! Very cool carry piece.. have a 19c but would love to get my hands on a 31c or 32c. I hear ya though, can be a lil pricey sometimes, but totally worth it. Thank you again!! Plenty on the way my friend!!🍻
Yeah and Underwood hasn't been loading Gold Dots in any caliber because Speer will no longer sell them bullets, I bought some Underwood 135gr .40 for $13/20 box off Lucky Gunner but they're Noslers unfortunately.
I would feel far more comfortable with the .357 SIG over ANY loading in 9 Minimal as my self-defense round. Since the SIG round, and pistols chambered for it, don't sell well in my area I would have to rent a pistol and buy the ammo to get a feel for both before I invested in such a pistol-ammo combination. I would like to see a comparison test between the .38 Super, a round I AM familiar with, and the .357 SIG. Excellent video by the way!
@furmanmackey5479 The 357Sig is "the way" and the best way to get into 357Sig is to buy a new Glock 31 or 32 and buy a 40S&W drop in barrel and order all your 357Sig ammo on line. Both calibers use the same frame and magazines but obviously different barrels. The alternative would be used Sig P229 or P226's.
Great video! I was just about to order some 357 SIG defensive ammo to replace my aging Gold Dot. I suppose that I'll just flip a coin on which I should order.
@@davidtolbert6204 💪💯Heck yeah, definitely a nasty round and great performer. Thank you🫵!! Appreciate ya taking the time to check it out!! Plenty on the way my friend!!🍻
@@AzAirgunner. That 229 is producing some good velocities. It exceeded the advertised velocities for both loads. Pretty cool to see in a 3.9 inch barrel!!!
Another good test, AZ! While the Speer Gold Dot is the Gold Standard (just due to it's age) it's pretty clear there isn't a lot of difference between the two bullets. Shooters are likely to choose by availability and price since they are both so close in performance. An "insignificant difference" one could say! While some other hollow points may be close to these two in performance, you'll never go wrong with either brand! Cheers, jc
Great testing and decent FPS and Gel damage for a big name factory load. Some of the specialty ammo company's can push that another 100 FPS. Plus if you shop around you can find the LE 50rd box in the mid $30's. My P2000 loves the HST load and will stack hole on hole super crazy accuracy. Haven't had the chance to try the golddot 357sig load yet.
I found a 30 round box of the Gold Dots for $29.00. I've got a 4.7inch P320 to put them through. Looking for a 357 Sig barrel for my P239. Excellent work!
Just a thought, zero, double zero, no complaint, if you are willing to offset the catch block, why not flip the catch block, and make it the lead gel block for the second shot? Anyway, recent sunscriber, I gobble the 357 Sig tests like candy. I know results are a sample of one, but your P229 tests have convinced me to set up a 4" Shield in 357 Sig for easy woods carry, or easy carrying backup for something else. Thumbs up.
Just curious as to why you cock the gun and then proceed to rack the slide back to chamber the round? Great vids ! Looking to get a Gen 5 Glock in .357 Sig when they decide to produce one.
@@phxamigo Only reason is to take the extra tension off the slide and make it a lil easier and smoother to rack.. Figured I'm not in a situation and have the time lol. Thank you and appreciate ya taking the time to check em out!!🍻
The HST is a great bullet design, but I still like the gold dot better. It has been proving itself since 1991 as a very effective and reliable projectile for self defense use.
@ all I can say is that I have seen dozens of youtube videos testing the 124 gr +P gd in barrels from 3.1” to 5.2” through bare gel and clothing barriers, and I have never seen it fail to give excellent performance. I am not saying your experience is invalid, but all I have to go on is what many youtubers have posted showing excellent performance. I am subscribed to about 50 gun tube channels, so I have seen a very broad range of test setups using this ammo with a wide variety of pistols.
@Mbartel500 Sadly in my OIS 3 rounds of 124gr gold dot center mass and they all failed to stop the threat, no drugs, alcohol or anything except sheer will to "take out" and LEO, the perp ran about one block before he was tackled to the ground. It's more of a typical failure than the projectile.
@@nicholasroberts9618 I doubt the projectiles failed as advertised, but perhaps didn't meet your elevated expectations for a 9mm cartridge from a handgun.
It kills me that SIG promotion of the 229 in .357 SIG showed 1,450 fps for a 125 in their ads but major manufacturers gave us 1,350 Me? I don’t want a 124/125 unless I’m getting 600+ foot pounds.
In his .357 Sig testing The Turkey's Opinion had factory loads exceeding 740 ft. lbs. It was some lightweight Grizzly ammo averaging 1834 fps. Impressive.
This basic standard grain and pressure JHP 357 SIG ammo what's not to love about it l think this is a awesome human threats defensive round l wish it was much more popular because l really love 357 SIG performance being my gun chambered in 357 SIG is 4.7 inches both of these rounds should well exceed 1400fps
@@gloriamaletta8667 Yessir, they sure do.. usually getting close to mid 1400's out of the g31. Will be retesting sometime soon with the sub compact and full size to see the differences. Appreciate ya taking the time to check it out my friend!!🍻
@@paulscountry456 🥳 Winner winner 🐔 dinner!! Great guess on the test velocity. Couldn't tell u for sure on the post, didn't want to give it away lol. But I know 🫵 know where it should and will be. Appreciate ya as always my friend!!🍻
Any idea what the difference is between Speer 125 grain 53918 and 125 Grain 54234? I’m looking at both and cannot tell a difference. Some have said the 918 has a deeper cavity. They look identical to me.
918 has a 5 petal projectile and is rated at 1350fps and 54234 is a 6 petal projectile and rated at 1375fps. The 54234 from a G31/P226 usually runs very low 1400 fps to 1415ish.
Awesome testing and excellent performance for sure.👊 HST, Gold Dot, and Sig V Crown are my go to carry rounds.👍 I don't have the .357 Sig, but they work well in 9&10mm for sure.🫡
@@GreyShooter Same brother!!.. I will get back to some g33 testing soon for ya. Just got that p229 recently and figured had to put all our ammo through it to see how she did. But sub compact & full size will be back soon😁. And Great talking to u🫵brother, was good times for sure!! Thanks again!!🍻
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Excellent Test
@@rsuninv Thank you so much, I really appreciate that a lot!! You're🫵awesome!! Glad u enjoyed it!! Plenty on the way my friend!! Thank you again!!🍻
The HST and Underwood are the only SD loads I use.
357Sig is the best 2 legged defensive ammo bar none wity 40S&W coming in a close second.
no question. Inclusive of its ability to generate 500+ fpe from 4" and shorter platforms.
Some may say 10mm
Hell yeah 357 sig all day.
@@adamshaw8214 Appreciate ya joining our members club!!🤪🤙
@@AzAirgunner. Yes sir
Makes me so happy to see new 357 Sig videos
@@ArmeroPR 💪Heck yeah!! Have a ton comin for ya this season. Appreciate ya taking the time to check em out!!🍻
@ thanks Sir. Just subbed
@@ArmeroPR Thank you, appreciate the support!! Have a Playlist on the channel with *101* 357 sig videos. So we're tryin lol. Thanks again!!
I love your tests. Please keep them coming. Perfect timing too as I just got a 357 Sig.
@@ttygre8963 Thank you very much, I appreciate that!! What u end up getting?? Plenty on the way my friend. Thanks again!!🍻
357sig is the best of the BEST! 💪
@@AzAirgunner.
HK USP Compact in excellent condition.
@@ttygre8963 Heck yeah!! That's awesome!! Bet it's a sweet shooter.
@@AzAirgunner. It for sure is. Maybe not everyone’s cup of tea but I love it.
My man, Az, testing the best duty loads of the .357SIG. Bro, you are legit keeping this caliber alive.
Another great test video showing .357 is still an excellent round.
Really love your videos, I EDC a Glock 32C and it's really great seeing the performance of different loads before dropping that .357 Sig cash
@@robhamilton2506 Thank you very much, I appreciate that and appreciate u taking the time to check em out!! Very cool carry piece.. have a 19c but would love to get my hands on a 31c or 32c. I hear ya though, can be a lil pricey sometimes, but totally worth it. Thank you again!! Plenty on the way my friend!!🍻
Thanks for keeping the .357 Sig love going. Premium price for light loads kinda sucks though. Those should be in the 1500fps range.
@@kenneth1884 Thank you🫵!! Appreciate u taking the time to check it out!! Plenty on the way my friend!!🍻
Yeah and Underwood hasn't been loading Gold Dots in any caliber because Speer will no longer sell them bullets, I bought some Underwood 135gr .40 for $13/20 box off Lucky Gunner but they're Noslers unfortunately.
my favorite edc caliber
I would feel far more comfortable with the .357 SIG over ANY loading in 9 Minimal as my self-defense round. Since the SIG round, and pistols chambered for it, don't sell well in my area I would have to rent a pistol and buy the ammo to get a feel for both before I invested in such a pistol-ammo combination. I would like to see a comparison test between the .38 Super, a round I AM familiar with, and the .357 SIG. Excellent video by the way!
@furmanmackey5479 The 357Sig is "the way" and the best way to get into 357Sig is to buy a new Glock 31 or 32 and buy a 40S&W drop in barrel and order all your 357Sig ammo on line. Both calibers use the same frame and magazines but obviously different barrels. The alternative would be used Sig P229 or P226's.
9x23 as well
Paul harrell channel has a comparison between these two cartridges
@@bobjones-bt9bh As soon as I read your reply, I recalled watching that very video! Thanks for the reminder as I'm going back and watch it again.
This is very useful to me. I'm currently running the Gold Dot 357 SIG for defense but I've been wondering about the HST. Thanks for the test!
@@fourthhorseman4531 Thank you🫵!! Can't go wrong either way, both great options. Appreciate ya checkin it out!!🍻
Really enjoy these 357Sig testing vids, keep them shooting!
Good stuff as always. Can’t go wrong with either of these loads.
@@w.e.coyote295 Thank you!! 💪💯
Great video! I was just about to order some 357 SIG defensive ammo to replace my aging Gold Dot. I suppose that I'll just flip a coin on which I should order.
Try some Underwood they are pretty awesome!
@markstephens5120 Thanks for the suggestion. I currently use Underwood in another caliber and its definitely good quality.
@@SigmaSheepdog 💪💯 really can't go wrong with either. Appreciate ya watchin..Thank you!!🍻
Another tremendous demonstration.....
Thanks for providing these test.
@@cousinvinnie2180 Appreciate ya brother!! Thank you🫵 for stickin around and taking the time to watch em!!🍻
Actively stocking up on both of these. Great test!
@@rogerwood5228 💪Heck yeah!! Can't go wrong with either. Appreciate ya buddy!!🍻
Very similar! Almost identical. If I had to choose 1 over the other I would say the HST narrowly edged out the GD. Great content. Many thanks.
@@guardianminifarm8005 Thank you sir!! Appreciate ya!!
Good stuff. Thanks for posting.
@@scottythebody0811 Appreciate ya brotha!! Thank you🫵!! Plenty on the way😁🤙.🍻
Should call that round Leroy Brown
Baddest man in the whole damn town
Thank you for another 357 Sig Test. I may need to order some Gold Dots to go with my HST supply.
@@davidtolbert6204 💪💯Heck yeah, definitely a nasty round and great performer. Thank you🫵!! Appreciate ya taking the time to check it out!! Plenty on the way my friend!!🍻
@AzAirgunner. Looking forward to it! That 229 gets good velocity for a 3.9 inch barrel.
@@AzAirgunner. That 229 is producing some good velocities. It exceeded the advertised velocities for both loads. Pretty cool to see in a 3.9 inch barrel!!!
Fantastic!
Great test!!
Both did fantastic. Just impressive. As for me I’ll go with the Federal HST.
Good stuff!
Another good test, AZ! While the Speer Gold Dot is the Gold Standard (just due to it's age) it's pretty clear there isn't a lot of difference between the two bullets. Shooters are likely to choose by availability and price since they are both so close in performance. An "insignificant difference" one could say! While some other hollow points may be close to these two in performance, you'll never go wrong with either brand!
Cheers,
jc
@@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 💪💯 Thank you as always for taking the time to check em out my friend!! I appreciate ya!!🍻
Perfect defensive round
Great testing and decent FPS and Gel damage for a big name factory load.
Some of the specialty ammo company's can push that another 100 FPS.
Plus if you shop around you can find the LE 50rd box in the mid $30's.
My P2000 loves the HST load and will stack hole on hole super crazy accuracy.
Haven't had the chance to try the golddot 357sig load yet.
Dam good show 👍
@@yomomma107 Appreciate ya brotha!!
I found a 30 round box of the Gold Dots for $29.00. I've got a 4.7inch P320 to put them through. Looking for a 357 Sig barrel for my P239. Excellent work!
I meant 50 round box.
I have a full size .357 Sig exchange kit for my p320 and I love it!!
I converted my Sig 229 40 to an Sig 357 n a Glock 27 to an Sig 357 as a EDC.
@@localguy8 that's my fallback option for a small concealable gun if I can't find a barrel for the P239. And so far I haven't seen any.
@ on gun broker there are lots of LE Glock 27 tradinds take a look 👍🏻☮️
357 sig never disappoints. Just for shits and giggles you should see what ball ammo does if you haven't already.
@@markstephens5120 💪💯 Absolutely!! I was actually gonna do a fmj vs hp here soon with it😁🤙. Appreciate ya!!🍻
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How about trying some 357 flat top regular ammo . Love to see the difference ❤️ great demos love it 👏👏👏👍🏻
357Sig !!!!!!!
Let’s Go!
Just a thought, zero, double zero, no complaint, if you are willing to offset the catch block, why not flip the catch block, and make it the lead gel block for the second shot?
Anyway, recent sunscriber, I gobble the 357 Sig tests like candy. I know results are a sample of one, but your P229 tests have convinced me to set up a 4" Shield in 357 Sig for easy woods carry, or easy carrying backup for something else. Thumbs up.
Just curious as to why you cock the gun and then proceed to rack the slide back to chamber the round? Great vids ! Looking to get a Gen 5 Glock in .357 Sig when they decide to produce one.
@@phxamigo Only reason is to take the extra tension off the slide and make it a lil easier and smoother to rack.. Figured I'm not in a situation and have the time lol. Thank you and appreciate ya taking the time to check em out!!🍻
The HST is a great bullet design, but I still like the gold dot better. It has been proving itself since 1991 as a very effective and reliable projectile for self defense use.
@@Mbartel500 My personal experience has seen the 9mm 124gr +P gold dot fail horribly.
@ all I can say is that I have seen dozens of youtube videos testing the 124 gr +P gd in barrels from 3.1” to 5.2” through bare gel and clothing barriers, and I have never seen it fail to give excellent performance. I am not saying your experience is invalid, but all I have to go on is what many youtubers have posted showing excellent performance. I am subscribed to about 50 gun tube channels, so I have seen a very broad range of test setups using this ammo with a wide variety of pistols.
@Mbartel500 Sadly in my OIS 3 rounds of 124gr gold dot center mass and they all failed to stop the threat, no drugs, alcohol or anything except sheer will to "take out" and LEO, the perp ran about one block before he was tackled to the ground. It's more of a typical failure than the projectile.
@@nicholasroberts9618 I doubt the projectiles failed as advertised, but perhaps didn't meet your elevated expectations for a 9mm cartridge from a handgun.
@@rogerwood5228 That was the beginning of my hatred for 9mm.
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Let Sig know they need a new line of 357s
It kills me that SIG promotion of the 229 in .357 SIG showed 1,450 fps for a 125 in their ads but major manufacturers gave us 1,350
Me? I don’t want a 124/125 unless I’m getting 600+ foot pounds.
Underwood, Buffalo Bore, Double Tap and even Cor-Bon is your ammo then.
In his .357 Sig testing The Turkey's Opinion had factory loads exceeding 740 ft. lbs. It was some lightweight Grizzly ammo averaging 1834 fps. Impressive.
That's why I carry Underwood 1500fps and over 600fpe
@@markstephens5120 have you actually tested it or are you trusting the box?
This basic standard grain and pressure JHP 357 SIG ammo what's not to love about it l think this is a awesome human threats defensive round l wish it was much more popular because l really love 357 SIG performance being my gun chambered in 357 SIG is 4.7 inches both of these rounds should well exceed 1400fps
@@gloriamaletta8667 Yessir, they sure do.. usually getting close to mid 1400's out of the g31. Will be retesting sometime soon with the sub compact and full size to see the differences. Appreciate ya taking the time to check it out my friend!!🍻
@AzAirgunner. thank you for the ammo review
Thx. Doesn't Federal own Speer?
CSG owns both plus Remington. They are a Czec company. Bought them all out awhile back.
357 SIG master race. LOL.
HST wins on velocity and energy...this one was on the lower end of what you usually see.
I should get a prize?
@@paulscountry456 🥳 Winner winner 🐔 dinner!! Great guess on the test velocity. Couldn't tell u for sure on the post, didn't want to give it away lol. But I know 🫵 know where it should and will be. Appreciate ya as always my friend!!🍻
💩 congratulations
Ha at 8:03 i can here a round ricochet from whoever is shooting close to you.
@@garthc5994 😄 They come pretty close sometimes. Appreciate ya stickin around that long into the video. Thank you🫵!!🍻
Any idea what the difference is between Speer 125 grain 53918 and 125 Grain 54234? I’m looking at both and cannot tell a difference. Some have said the 918 has a deeper cavity. They look identical to me.
918 has a 5 petal projectile and is rated at 1350fps and 54234 is a 6 petal projectile and rated at 1375fps. The 54234 from a G31/P226 usually runs very low 1400 fps to 1415ish.
When you going to test 9mm 90gr Xtreme defender +p+ and can you use 4 inch pistol ❤❤
Awesome testing and excellent performance for sure.👊
HST, Gold Dot, and Sig V Crown are my go to carry rounds.👍 I don't have the .357 Sig, but they work well in 9&10mm for sure.🫡
I love 357 Sig and my G33. 357 and 10mm are my favorites. Good talking to you in TTOs chat the other night. Thanks AZ. 🫡👍🇺🇲
@@GreyShooter Same brother!!.. I will get back to some g33 testing soon for ya. Just got that p229 recently and figured had to put all our ammo through it to see how she did. But sub compact & full size will be back soon😁. And Great talking to u🫵brother, was good times for sure!! Thanks again!!🍻