You can put the 'bowl' on top of the larger section, as sort of a lid, and put the lid on top of the bowl. This allows you to heat up things in both containers simultaneously. Great kit, like you I have both the Heavy Cover and Pathfinder canteen kits and I like them both.
Yes. The double boiler mode works! Less food burning with Ti heating up so fast things burn quickly but not over the water. Brown it first then the double boiler.
18 months ago i bought an exact version of this from amazon, however it came with corner points on both cups to be able to hang them over a fire. Very useful. Apart from that it's exactly the same. Worth checking out before you get the pathfinder version!
Thank you for your review... Myself, I have the stainless version. Couldn't justify the price for the titanium model. Yes... I'm a tightwad!! But I've put my saved money to other gear. But all the same Titanium vs Stainless, they both are worthy kits. Glad you're safe from Ida!!
Ernie, the gasket/o-ring in the canteen cap looks like it may be silicone, so it can take heat but not direct flame. But you NEVER want to put a canteen over a fire with the cap on because you would get a steam explosion! Possibly with shrapnel.
Please make a video about the Trangia Mess Tin ... I have wanted one but am not sure about it .... I can't wait to buy something that will work. Thanks again for all your wonderful video's
I typically have a hard time replacing my Toaks 750/450 pot/ cup set in my kit because it packs down well, hold my stove and lighter, and is very light. I'm very interested in the SRO set, but it seems to me I'll still have to pack an additional cup. The small "cup"/frying pan in this set doesn't look very functional as a drinking vessel. I'll be interested to see how you use this kit on overnight and multiple day outings. I am a light/ultralight hiker at heart, but find myself getting more interested in the bushcraft gear and resources. I camp with scouts a lot and weight isn't as important on those outings. I love my Firebox Nano Ti (which I take backpacking too) and my STG Pack Stove (sad to see them close down). I'm looking at a Hidden Woodsman Day Ruck and this canteen set with great interest.
I still pack my old stainless trangia stove I bought 20+ years ago. Dang thing was $15 then and it was used military surplus and I complained about the price.Lol!
I bought the Pathfinder kit when it first came out, and I do like it a lot. I think it works very well with the Firebox Nano, or one of the smaller stoves. Thanks for sharing! :-)
I sold my Heavy Cover canteen set to buy the Pathfinder. Like you, I’m not really able to rate one over the other… I just like the Pathfinder better. I had a Center Line Systems Mother (MCC) carrier for the HC and liked it a lot. Naturally I have a GCC carrier ordered for the Pathfinder. (Bigger than the MCC and made for the Pathfinder) For me I just like the look and feel of the Pathfinder, the extra pot is a small bonus but I haven’t needed it yet.
Sometimes we can’t help ourselves. We get obsessed with great camping gear. Geeze, I am absolutely intimate with this process. I have way more stuff than I need. Texas Watching again, three years later, still buying great stuff…smiling. Now, finally retired in the foothills of the east Tennessee Smokies.
I'm a bit of a Pathfinder fan and bought all their Ti products as birthday/Christmas presents to myself. Don't have the keith/heavy cover and other than using the pathfinder bottle and canteen to carry water on walks I haven't used them for anything else yet or any of the other ti gear I bought. I'm still working on loosing weight with daily walks before I do more than daily walks in local parks.
Watcher from over the pond. Another great video. You may want to check out the Boundless Voyage Titanium Camping Pot Set. No bottle/canteen but similar design of cups, has addition of hanging system for over a fire. Works with the Nalgene Oasis bottle. Well worth a look and less than half the price of the pathfinder kit. Cheers.
I have the pathfinder canteen with large fitted cup and fitted stove the cup and canteen fit on and matching molly compatible canteen pouch with accessory pockets. It is an fantastic kit. Stainless steel kit.
Nothing bad against that selfrelianceoutfitters kit but just to say it: there is an almost identical item for much lower price available from Boundless Voyage (Article Ti15158Br ). Else I think there is no question whether the Keith model or the Pathfinder model is better or worse, they are more or less same. The only relevant question concerning both is whether you want to have a kit with one or two cups, and maybe of which size the cups should then have (one could e.g. combine the Keith kit with the Titanium Maxi GI Cup to have an even larger canteen cup instead of going for a smaller secondary cup). Concerning the question whether stainless steel or titanium gear, well, that's not really a question which could be answered rationally but more kind a matter of love ... 😁 and of course a matter of money.
Love my Two HC TI kits, both together with stove stands are lighter than one SS canteen by itself. I find Two are great for both water carrying capacity, and full meal/drink prep. Buy once, be happy for life.
I've seen them in the SRO show (they're here in town) but never got one. I have both of their round SS kits with the cup, bottle, spreader, etc. and use them occasionally. I mostly use my Stanley or Firebox Billy can. Things are looking good at the new shop! I hope you are well and the weather misses you down there, Ernie.
👍 Nice display of this product. I had the Keith titanium cook set, but replaced it with the Self Reliance Outfitters stainless steel canteen cook set. I was more comfortable cooking with stainless steel and to me the weight savings did not off set this. I have no experience with the SRO titanium cook set.
I have had the pathfinder SS canteen set for a few years. I really like it a lot with the wide mouth. I purchased the Ti canteen set when it was released. I ended up throwing the canteen in the trash. I know Ti isn’t suppose to have a taste to it but... I washed that Ti canteen so many times and also boiled water in it. I don’t know why but it had such a weird taste drinking water out of it. I will stick with the SS. The weight isn’t that bad to me. I mostly camp out and not to much hiking. My 2 cents on the he one I ended up with.
For me with the Toaks Products, I do a lot of deep woods hiking and Kayaking and like all modern hikers I have 50 stoves 40 tents 30 sleeping bags lmao but at the end of the day I always use my Toaks cookware for the piece of mind it has never even came close to letting me down. Not saying the rest are bad but if I'm 2 hours from the nearest cell phone signal the last thing I want is a handle malfunction and boiling water in my lap BTW great video.
Great review! I went with a titanium kit like that, but the other brand. If you get the same but mess kit, you can invert it on top of the canteen. That way you have a pot, cup,pan,dish. The other brand mess kit has a fold over handle. All of it nest in a Helikon canteen pouch.
I'm on the SRO site now and I'm not seeing that canteen and cover listed. Doesn't matter for me, I use the 32 oz SS bottle and nesting cup. I'm still not sold on the value of Ti. Anyway, I don't see a woodland camo kit with Ti canteen. Also, you noted the cup and bowl both have that lip upon which the lid fits pretty securely to. I was thinking that looks like it would drip your beverage all down the front of your shirt if you tried to drink from them. Have you? I love your videos and I have purchased several things based on your recommendations. Keep it up!
Honestly the biggest selling point of titanium is weight reduction and if i recall it cools down faster then stainless steel but the take away i've had about titanium in general is if your willing to spend the money on it more power to you but for me personally I'll stick with my stainless steel cups and canteens.
For me I ordered the boundless voyage branded set, it's the exact same as Pathfinder but half the price which is unfortunate because I really love Dave's videos and would of got the Pathfinder branded if the price was reasonable. Mine arrives Monday and I can't wait to put it to use
How good is the boundless voyage titanium canteen? I have a plastic US Army canteen and the pathfinder stainless steel canteen, but I’m not sure which titanium canteen to get. Boundless Voyage, Keith/HC, and the Pathfinder titanium all seem good.
@@lowlandnobleman6746 I love it, for me the boundless voyage was way cheaper than the others you mentioned. I've used it and both cups a few times out on hikes by the river, along with my folding wood stove to cook and heat water for my coffee. my only complaint is the bag that came with them, it's serviceable but I'll eventually replace it with something with a bit more room
Thats a beautiful kit and if you wanna upgrade that carry case, Center Line Systems has one called the "mother canteen carrier" MCC and a bigger one called the GCC, handmade, great quality...
I have it and like it a lot, much lighter and more versatile than my old heavy Nalgene and nested gsi cup. The worst part is the cap sqwauls like brakes on a train, the second worst part is the case. It’s ok, but far from great and not worthy of the Ti set.. but luckily the Pathfinder version - without the extra bits on the sides that catch on bags - does fit nicely in the Helikon Essentials bag. Lid in the bottom, take the handles off the larger pot and stow them inside the upper flap mesh, and it’ll all drop right in. Its a snug fit, not perfect, but it works good. The trick to getting the large pot out is to stick your hand in it and make a fist. Oh, and dont tuck the buckles in, they encroach into the bags opening causing the canteen and pot to hang up. On the large pot, I poked a couple 3/16 holes under the rim on the sides so that a fish mouth spreader thing can hook in, that way it can be hung from a tripod or stick over an open fire (I usually only reinstall the handles when using a Firebox)
I have and like the Pathfinder Titanium Water Bottle. I choose it over the canteen because it fits nicely into the backpack. The canteen looks nice too, but I don't really need both. Thanks for the video.
Great review. I am a fan of SS only because it holds the heat better then titanium from what I have read. It may be a little heavier to carry but, I do love the fact that it does hold the heat better, and when it comes to eating, I want my food hot for as long as I can get it. Thank you PaleoHikerMD, once again you provided a great review.
Thanks for the great review, as always. Btw, if you grab the ramen and break in half longways and then break the two halves in half (so you get four equal “squares”) while they’re still bag you get longer, easier to eat noodles AND way less spillage doing the crush method you used. Basically grab bag, snap it in half, then snap it in half the other direction. Pour bag and cook.
If you do a comparison video, please try and see if the cups/canteens of each set nest within the other set. Also, see if USGI or Nalgene canteens nest within the Pathfinder set like the do perfectly with Keith/Heavy Cover set.
i feel like the pot is wide enough that you can just place the whole thing side ways and in a min or two the whole thing would be in there so no need to break the ramen at all 🤗🤗
@@squintygreeneyes Most pots that people carry out camping aren’t big enough though. Car camping and staying at a campground, yeah… but most hikers use 600ml or smaller cups/pots. Kinda hard to cook ‘em whole. But you’re totally right if you have the right sized pot. :)
So far, I'll I have ever gotten from all this is that whatever you get it's wrong and or its obsolete when you get it. So I suggest you buy what will get what you need done and leave it at that. Watching all the suggestions given by all the experts tends to make one want to give up hiking or camping.
I have the Pathfinder steel canteen kit, I know its a bit heavy but I sure like it. I also have various titanium pot bottle sets etc. I think if your going to carry it on your pistol belt or y harness (level 2) under pack system then It may be better to go stainless for the durability. Carry your titanium stuff in your pack. I have seen a guy take a good fall and smash up his titanium canteen set that he carried on his hip belt. But I have seen steel canteens hold up very well under falls etc.. just sayin in case you may be worried about long term durability.
Big negative on titanium is that it heats unevenly and you have a greater chance of burning your food. That's a pretty large consideration to overlook.
Not a big fan of titanium here. I do have the early Pathfinder canteen cook kit in stainless steel and have been using it for a few years now. It’s my absolute favorite canteen kit. The bag is a bit small but I can still fit everything I need including my Emberlit FireAnt stove.
Hey Ernie, thank you as always. it’s been about a year, Have you selected a favorite? i’m in the market and you’re my go to for stove and cook kits. Thanks bud
I would no longer give away the bottle. Meanwhile, I no longer need the kidney-shaped cup. It was tedious to clean this inside and also by the shape this is not always stable on the smaller gas stove rests. I now use the Toaks cups for the smaller dishes. The disadvantage with the combination is that the parts must be transported separately.
The only worry I have is the seam on the canteen if you decide to pop that into the fire. I know you said there was no warping of the titanium but the seam still worries me on the canteen itself. Other than that it's a knockout piece of kit! Please leave a comment if my worries about the seam are silly. I've heard of separation and leaking after hard use of containers with seams in them after time. Obviously I want this hahahaha
no wide mouth on the canteen? dont like the internal threads either. i wonder what the seam is like inside the canteen... IDK. i think i'll stick with SS.
How is the fuel waste with one of these on a wind master or traditional butane stove? Does the narrow shape make it less effective than a round pot? I would think it would but I’ve never really used a canteen.
Your channel is really good. I have the keith canteen and am absolutely satisfied. It has also become my companion in everyday life. Yes it is expensive. The kanteen carrier is really badly made and also quickly torn, it is also too tight, this is not to use. I quickly disposed of it. The pathfinder looks so ugly to me, I am afraid to get eye cancer. The carrier looks like something out of a bad computer game. It may be good, but I would never trade it for my keith.
I sure hope Dave Canterbury is paying you for all of your advertising. I almost feel like I'm watching a Self Reliance channel. ;) Have you ever tried the Four Dog Stove Company Bushcooker stove? I've seen you use many different stoves, but not that one. Take care.
The reason it doesn't have ounces is because it wasn't made for the American market at all, Dave Canterbury, heavy cover and almost all other companies selling titanium are buying them from the same Chinese manufacturer and simply picking out of a catalogue and asking for their own logo laser etched then claiming they designed it when they didn't. The keith came long before heavy cover asked to have their logo put on it, and I'm almost certain I saw these exact kits branded by boundless voyage and another brand long before self reliance outfitters claimed the design and brought out their branded version.
One simple problem I have with any of the titanium canteens...what's the point of a lightweight water container if as soon as you fill it with water your carrying an extra kilogram? Now I do have the titanium bushbox as that (minus a bit of ash) will always be the same weight. In short I think I'll stick with the trusty stainless steel and accept a few 100 grams extra when its empty which is pretty rare.
@@mrwes100 but a SS canteen was never intended as lightweight and therefore doesnt have the price tag of Ti attached. Think you need to read more before you comment.
@@leewilson98 I know exactly what I was saying. Your comment is idiotic. Even filled with water, the Ti canteen is still lighter than a SS version. Unless you use heavy water that is.
@@mrwes100 yes but again is it worth the extra money when the weight saving is insignificant. I guess you are one in the same who says I’ll buy this ultralight cookset then carry along a full size felling axe and say…well at least i saved a few grams on the cookset.
I voted foe the other one. Its difficult to believe there is a significant differance from the keith set, to the pathfinder set. I think the big question if ti is your thing. Bottle set or traditional set.
I would love one, but that price is painful. It looks to me like one of those “I’d love that for our anniversary” presents, unless there’s a lot of disposable income hanging around. Until that day, I’ll just have to enjoy watching others enjoy it.
Great video, I really want to get one I just can't get over the Titanium squeaking sounds. Certin sounds like Styrofoam dog whistles and now the Titanium squeak really hurt my ears.
I've got one, and I really rate it. I don't do much cooking in the bowl, although I have used it as a frying pan, it's just not really that good at it. I use it more as an eating bowl, saving the mug for tea. The pouch isn't that good, that much is true, but I recall Dave Canterbury saying that he didn't think it was worth upgrading the pouch as sold, because he expected that most people would put it into an after market pouch anyway.
Pro tip, stop using ounces and just use ml. Problem solved ;) I have the pathfinder school rebrand which is the boundless voyage brand, identical set. I love it so far, except that loud metal screeching of the cap - but nothing to be done about that I suppose.
They do fit better either on the hip or in a haversack. Ive got the SS pathfinder bottle and it just makes the haversack too deep, was hoping the canteen (SS or Ti) would be a better fit and sit neater on top of the tarp due to lower height.
If you carry your gear generally inside the rucksack, a round pot/cup around a round bottle, maybe even everything nested into a round stove, would give you most probably a perfect fit. Similar would happen with a rectangular shape, but that shape isn't so great for cooking since you cannot stir properly in the corners, and cleaning could also be an issue. But if you don't want to open your rucksack for a cup of water and want the bottle always ready for grabbing and using it, you have to carry it outside, maybe in a kind of haversack or or in an extra bottle holder thing, or fixed at your gear belt, and a round shaped bottle would always dangle forward/backward whiles walking whiles a more flat or even kidney shape keeps the bottle straight at your body. So, very clearly, the shape of such kits isn't optimized for cooking and carrying in a rucksack but for best on body carrying experience in a military use context. It is a historically developed form factor, the modern shape goes back to models of 1910 and got more or less finalized around 1974. There is a very interesting article about the historical development of such army mess kits, I don't want to put a link here because the comment would then be arrested by youtube, but you can google it if you are interested in history, just search for David Cole Army Field Mess Gear pdf
@@bangalorebobbel I can now see if you carried a gear belt or hip pack, this would be a/the way to go. I don't carry that way -- I use a pack, since I typically need to take more when I venture further out in Colorado, than what I can fit into a comfortable hip pack. But in warmer weather..... I did take a page from military gear, however, in now I am a firm believer in solid fuel stoves -- small, light, ,compact, and work dang well in winter. Great for stopping for a hot coffee! And, they''re quiet compared to even the smallest of butane stoves (if you carry the fuel inside your jacket).
@@skylerphoenix8880 yes if you need to carry only a water bottle and a cup for a quick coffee ... and yes, escpecially in such a scenario nothing better than an Esbit stove or at least a tablet which you can fire up between some stones ... I used my dad's Esbit stove already as a kid and still like that stuff, but using now mostly hexamine tablets from British Army surplus instead of Esbit tablets since this Hexamine is sold currently very cheap after the Brits switched over to the new gel stoves. But I love also a lot to use the good old Swiss M71 gel stove (usually refilled with alcohol since I don't get gel in India) or some DIY beer can stoves or any other small DIY alcohol stove for a fast coffee. The M71 fits fine into a little mug, along with some coffee powder etc, and water comes from a simple bottle - not only great solution for a stopover in the outdoors but also perfect during a short pause whiles riding a motorcycle or being on a long road trip with the jeep ... Yet for cooking rice or preparing meals I prefer mostly wood stoves. Homemade hobos mostly preferred but I became recently also little bit addicted to a Keith Titanium stick stove, Ti2201. Which is also fine for putting a canteen cup on top ... or putting charcoal inside and using it for a small bbq ;-)
Well I'll tell you. The rest of the world uses (ml), but they could have used both. Here is Canada we learn both units of measurement, so to us it reallllly doesn't matter :P
I was asking my self the same thing, why pay hundred of dollars when i can pay less for boundless voyage version And it even have hangers so i can hang it over fire
You are a great outdoor gear reviewer.
You can put the 'bowl' on top of the larger section, as sort of a lid, and put the lid on top of the bowl. This allows you to heat up things in both containers simultaneously. Great kit, like you I have both the Heavy Cover and Pathfinder canteen kits and I like them both.
Have you tried doing this to create a double boiler? Great for eggs 😉.
Yes. The double boiler mode works! Less food burning with Ti heating up so fast things burn quickly but not over the water. Brown it first then the double boiler.
18 months ago i bought an exact version of this from amazon, however it came with corner points on both cups to be able to hang them over a fire. Very useful. Apart from that it's exactly the same. Worth checking out before you get the pathfinder version!
Is it the boundless voyage ?
@@Charlotte-stories I also want to know that.
Thank you for your review... Myself, I have the stainless version. Couldn't justify the price for the titanium model. Yes... I'm a tightwad!! But I've put my saved money to other gear. But all the same Titanium vs Stainless, they both are worthy kits. Glad you're safe from Ida!!
Ernie, the gasket/o-ring in the canteen cap looks like it may be silicone, so it can take heat but not direct flame. But you NEVER want to put a canteen over a fire with the cap on because you would get a steam explosion! Possibly with shrapnel.
The seam would probably give before it pops. But I'm not going to try it!
Please make a video about the Trangia Mess Tin ... I have wanted one but am not sure about it .... I can't wait to buy something that will work. Thanks again for all your wonderful video's
I typically have a hard time replacing my Toaks 750/450 pot/ cup set in my kit because it packs down well, hold my stove and lighter, and is very light. I'm very interested in the SRO set, but it seems to me I'll still have to pack an additional cup. The small "cup"/frying pan in this set doesn't look very functional as a drinking vessel. I'll be interested to see how you use this kit on overnight and multiple day outings.
I am a light/ultralight hiker at heart, but find myself getting more interested in the bushcraft gear and resources. I camp with scouts a lot and weight isn't as important on those outings. I love my Firebox Nano Ti (which I take backpacking too) and my STG Pack Stove (sad to see them close down). I'm looking at a Hidden Woodsman Day Ruck and this canteen set with great interest.
I still pack my old stainless trangia stove I bought 20+ years ago. Dang thing was $15 then and it was used military surplus and I complained about the price.Lol!
I bought the Pathfinder kit when it first came out, and I do like it a lot. I think it works very well with the Firebox Nano, or one of the smaller stoves. Thanks for sharing! :-)
Nice vid. More than a year had passed since this video, any any conclusion comparing to Keith canteen? Which do u prefer?
Mine came with a length of cable attached to some brackets so I can hang it over a fire. Pretty cool...
What version you bought?
Boundless voyage?
I sold my Heavy Cover canteen set to buy the Pathfinder. Like you, I’m not really able to rate one over the other… I just like the Pathfinder better.
I had a Center Line Systems Mother (MCC) carrier for the HC and liked it a lot. Naturally I have a GCC carrier ordered for the Pathfinder. (Bigger than the MCC and made for the Pathfinder)
For me I just like the look and feel of the Pathfinder, the extra pot is a small bonus but I haven’t needed it yet.
Do you have your GCC yet? I got mine a couple of days age (Custom in Wolf Grey) I'm very, very happy with mine.
@@Gstrowes - I ended up canceling the order, for the money, it wouldn’t have been an exact enough fit for my Pathfinder Titanium kit.
Very happy with my Keith set, and not looking to replace it.
Sometimes we can’t help ourselves. We get obsessed with great camping gear. Geeze, I am absolutely intimate with this process. I have way more stuff than I need. Texas
Watching again, three years later, still buying great stuff…smiling. Now, finally retired in the foothills of the east Tennessee Smokies.
I'm a bit of a Pathfinder fan and bought all their Ti products as birthday/Christmas presents to myself. Don't have the keith/heavy cover and other than using the pathfinder bottle and canteen to carry water on walks I haven't used them for anything else yet or any of the other ti gear I bought. I'm still working on loosing weight with daily walks before I do more than daily walks in local parks.
Watcher from over the pond. Another great video. You may want to check out the Boundless Voyage Titanium Camping Pot Set. No bottle/canteen but similar design of cups, has addition of hanging system for over a fire. Works with the Nalgene Oasis bottle. Well worth a look and less than half the price of the pathfinder kit. Cheers.
I have the pathfinder canteen with large fitted cup and fitted stove the cup and canteen fit on and matching molly compatible canteen pouch with accessory pockets. It is an fantastic kit. Stainless steel kit.
Mighty nice ! Now if I could just find some decent Boudin here in Oregon, all would be mighty fine 🍴
Nothing bad against that selfrelianceoutfitters kit but just to say it: there is an almost identical item for much lower price available from Boundless Voyage (Article Ti15158Br ).
Else I think there is no question whether the Keith model or the Pathfinder model is better or worse, they are more or less same. The only relevant question concerning both is whether you want to have a kit with one or two cups, and maybe of which size the cups should then have (one could e.g. combine the Keith kit with the Titanium Maxi GI Cup to have an even larger canteen cup instead of going for a smaller secondary cup).
Concerning the question whether stainless steel or titanium gear, well, that's not really a question which could be answered rationally but more kind a matter of love ... 😁 and of course a matter of money.
I wish the bigger cup would have a 1L capacity. Since the canteen is so much taller than the cup, I believe the cup could be taller as well.
Love my Two HC TI kits, both together with stove stands are lighter than one SS canteen by itself. I find Two are great for both water carrying capacity, and full meal/drink prep. Buy once, be happy for life.
I've seen them in the SRO show (they're here in town) but never got one. I have both of their round SS kits with the cup, bottle, spreader, etc. and use them occasionally. I mostly use my Stanley or Firebox Billy can. Things are looking good at the new shop! I hope you are well and the weather misses you down there, Ernie.
👍 Nice display of this product. I had the Keith titanium cook set, but replaced it with the Self Reliance Outfitters stainless steel canteen cook set. I was more comfortable cooking with stainless steel and to me the weight savings did not off set this. I have no experience with the SRO titanium cook set.
I have had the pathfinder SS canteen set for a few years. I really like it a lot with the wide mouth. I purchased the Ti canteen set when it was released. I ended up throwing the canteen in the trash. I know Ti isn’t suppose to have a taste to it but... I washed that Ti canteen so many times and also boiled water in it. I don’t know why but it had such a weird taste drinking water out of it. I will stick with the SS. The weight isn’t that bad to me. I mostly camp out and not to much hiking. My 2 cents on the he one I ended up with.
"I bought both"
Good man..
Lol... He does a viewer survey to justify purchase of one item and then buys both, Ernie is awesome!
For me with the Toaks Products, I do a lot of deep woods hiking and Kayaking and like all modern hikers I have 50 stoves 40 tents 30 sleeping bags lmao but at the end of the day I always use my Toaks cookware for the piece of mind it has never even came close to letting me down. Not saying the rest are bad but if I'm 2 hours from the nearest cell phone signal the last thing I want is a handle malfunction and boiling water in my lap BTW great video.
Great review! I went with a titanium kit like that, but the other brand. If you get the same but mess kit, you can invert it on top of the canteen. That way you have a pot, cup,pan,dish. The other brand mess kit has a fold over handle.
All of it nest in a Helikon canteen pouch.
Great peace of kit most of my family is allergic to titanium were can I find the same kit in stainless
Dude the shop looks fantastic!!!!! Glad to see you getting to use it so quickly
I'm on the SRO site now and I'm not seeing that canteen and cover listed. Doesn't matter for me, I use the 32 oz SS bottle and nesting cup. I'm still not sold on the value of Ti. Anyway, I don't see a woodland camo kit with Ti canteen.
Also, you noted the cup and bowl both have that lip upon which the lid fits pretty securely to. I was thinking that looks like it would drip your beverage all down the front of your shirt if you tried to drink from them. Have you?
I love your videos and I have purchased several things based on your recommendations. Keep it up!
Honestly the biggest selling point of titanium is weight reduction and if i recall it cools down faster then stainless steel but the take away i've had about titanium in general is if your willing to spend the money on it more power to you but for me personally I'll stick with my stainless steel cups and canteens.
Thanks for a very good video with great information in an enjoyable presentation, well done.
For me I ordered the boundless voyage branded set, it's the exact same as Pathfinder but half the price which is unfortunate because I really love Dave's videos and would of got the Pathfinder branded if the price was reasonable. Mine arrives Monday and I can't wait to put it to use
They are both $140
@@stevenmonkman1500 not anywhere i looked
How good is the boundless voyage titanium canteen? I have a plastic US Army canteen and the pathfinder stainless steel canteen, but I’m not sure which titanium canteen to get. Boundless Voyage, Keith/HC, and the Pathfinder titanium all seem good.
Also, Valtcan and a couple others. They all look rather similar.
@@lowlandnobleman6746 I love it, for me the boundless voyage was way cheaper than the others you mentioned. I've used it and both cups a few times out on hikes by the river, along with my folding wood stove to cook and heat water for my coffee. my only complaint is the bag that came with them, it's serviceable but I'll eventually replace it with something with a bit more room
I have the Boundless Voyage titanium.
I like the option of hanging it.
Worthwhile if you a weight saving person.
Is it the identical to the PF version or there’s more differences?
Sure do dig that titanium firebox!
Nice review! Thanks for the video. I was wondering about this kit. I really enjoy my old SRO kits I have.
Thats a beautiful kit and if you wanna upgrade that carry case, Center Line Systems has one called the "mother canteen carrier" MCC and a bigger one called the GCC, handmade, great quality...
I have it and like it a lot, much lighter and more versatile than my old heavy Nalgene and nested gsi cup.
The worst part is the cap sqwauls like brakes on a train, the second worst part is the case. It’s ok, but far from great and not worthy of the Ti set.. but luckily the Pathfinder version - without the extra bits on the sides that catch on bags - does fit nicely in the Helikon Essentials bag. Lid in the bottom, take the handles off the larger pot and stow them inside the upper flap mesh, and it’ll all drop right in. Its a snug fit, not perfect, but it works good. The trick to getting the large pot out is to stick your hand in it and make a fist. Oh, and dont tuck the buckles in, they encroach into the bags opening causing the canteen and pot to hang up.
On the large pot, I poked a couple 3/16 holes under the rim on the sides so that a fish mouth spreader thing can hook in, that way it can be hung from a tripod or stick over an open fire (I usually only reinstall the handles when using a Firebox)
I have and like the Pathfinder Titanium Water Bottle. I choose it over the canteen because it fits nicely into the backpack. The canteen looks nice too, but I don't really need both. Thanks for the video.
Great review. I am a fan of SS only because it holds the heat better then titanium from what I have read. It may be a little heavier to carry but, I do love the fact that it does hold the heat better, and when it comes to eating, I want my food hot for as long as I can get it. Thank you PaleoHikerMD, once again you provided a great review.
O, by the by, you did grab up a scout right?
Thanks for the great review, as always.
Btw, if you grab the ramen and break in half longways and then break the two halves in half (so you get four equal “squares”) while they’re still bag you get longer, easier to eat noodles AND way less spillage doing the crush method you used. Basically grab bag, snap it in half, then snap it in half the other direction. Pour bag and cook.
If you do a comparison video, please try and see if the cups/canteens of each set nest within the other set. Also, see if USGI or Nalgene canteens nest within the Pathfinder set like the do perfectly with Keith/Heavy Cover set.
i feel like the pot is wide enough that you can just place the whole thing side ways and in a min or two the whole thing would be in there so no need to break the ramen at all 🤗🤗
@@squintygreeneyes Most pots that people carry out camping aren’t big enough though. Car camping and staying at a campground, yeah… but most hikers use 600ml or smaller cups/pots. Kinda hard to cook ‘em whole. But you’re totally right if you have the right sized pot. :)
@@MrTangent i just meant for the canteen pot he was using in the video
@@squintygreeneyes That’s true. It’d probably fit it all. :)
So far, I'll I have ever gotten from all this is that whatever you get it's wrong and or its obsolete when you get it. So I suggest you buy what will get what you need done and leave it at that. Watching all the suggestions given by all the experts tends to make one want to give up hiking or camping.
I have the Pathfinder steel canteen kit, I know its a bit heavy but I sure like it. I also have various titanium pot bottle sets etc. I think if your going to carry it on your pistol belt or y harness (level 2) under pack system then It may be better to go stainless for the durability. Carry your titanium stuff in your pack. I have seen a guy take a good fall and smash up his titanium canteen set that he carried on his hip belt. But I have seen steel canteens hold up very well under falls etc.. just sayin in case you may be worried about long term durability.
Big negative on titanium is that it heats unevenly and you have a greater chance of burning your food. That's a pretty large consideration to overlook.
Does stainless steel heat evenly?
Not a big fan of titanium here.
I do have the early Pathfinder canteen cook kit in stainless steel and have been using it for a few years now. It’s my absolute favorite canteen kit. The bag is a bit small but I can still fit everything I need including my Emberlit FireAnt stove.
Hey Dr. Ernie, you and yours ok after Ida?
Hey Ernie, thank you as always. it’s been about a year, Have you selected a favorite? i’m in the market and you’re my go to for stove and cook kits. Thanks bud
Hi Ernie will the canteen fit in us gi canteen cup
I would no longer give away the bottle.
Meanwhile, I no longer need the kidney-shaped cup. It was tedious to clean this inside and also by the shape this is not always stable on the smaller gas stove rests. I now use the Toaks cups for the smaller dishes. The disadvantage with the combination is that the parts must be transported separately.
The only worry I have is the seam on the canteen if you decide to pop that into the fire. I know you said there was no warping of the titanium but the seam still worries me on the canteen itself. Other than that it's a knockout piece of kit! Please leave a comment if my worries about the seam are silly. I've heard of separation and leaking after hard use of containers with seams in them after time. Obviously I want this hahahaha
😳 price . Was curious how bad food would stick . Maybe one day I can upgrade. Thanks for the review
Will the cup stove nest with canteen
Cleaning? Is the seam on the canteen on the inside or outside of the neck? It can harbor bacteria if it is inside?
no wide mouth on the canteen? dont like the internal threads either. i wonder what the seam is like inside the canteen... IDK. i think i'll stick with SS.
Went with the ti water bottle from pathfinder
How is the fuel waste with one of these on a wind master or traditional butane stove? Does the narrow shape make it less effective than a round pot? I would think it would but I’ve never really used a canteen.
I've one . It's nice .
Also sold at the Vatican Titanium Cook Kit. same price.
I would think the weak point in this system would be the O ring. Please update after yoi have used thus extensively
Your channel is really good. I have the keith canteen and am absolutely satisfied. It has also become my companion in everyday life. Yes it is expensive. The kanteen carrier is really badly made and also quickly torn, it is also too tight, this is not to use. I quickly disposed of it. The pathfinder looks so ugly to me, I am afraid to get eye cancer. The carrier looks like something out of a bad computer game. It may be good, but I would never trade it for my keith.
With the 3 all together it's looking virtually squash proof
Where are you in Louisiana I’m around Opelousas
I sure hope Dave Canterbury is paying you for all of your advertising. I almost feel like I'm watching a Self Reliance channel. ;) Have you ever tried the Four Dog Stove Company Bushcooker stove? I've seen you use many different stoves, but not that one. Take care.
I like the extra cup but I prefer the shape of the Keith…
That’s a nice kit but priced a little high for my taste. Thanks for the vid.
You had me at Ramen noodles
Center Line Systems made a carrier for that canteen. On RUclips
The reason it doesn't have ounces is because it wasn't made for the American market at all, Dave Canterbury, heavy cover and almost all other companies selling titanium are buying them from the same Chinese manufacturer and simply picking out of a catalogue and asking for their own logo laser etched then claiming they designed it when they didn't. The keith came long before heavy cover asked to have their logo put on it, and I'm almost certain I saw these exact kits branded by boundless voyage and another brand long before self reliance outfitters claimed the design and brought out their branded version.
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You forgot the link to the Keith review.
One simple problem I have with any of the titanium canteens...what's the point of a lightweight water container if as soon as you fill it with water your carrying an extra kilogram?
Now I do have the titanium bushbox as that (minus a bit of ash) will always be the same weight.
In short I think I'll stick with the trusty stainless steel and accept a few 100 grams extra when its empty which is pretty rare.
Isn't the same true for a SS canteen? Duh.
@@mrwes100 but a SS canteen was never intended as lightweight and therefore doesnt have the price tag of Ti attached.
Think you need to read more before you comment.
@@leewilson98 I know exactly what I was saying. Your comment is idiotic. Even filled with water, the Ti canteen is still lighter than a SS version. Unless you use heavy water that is.
@@mrwes100 yes but again is it worth the extra money when the weight saving is insignificant. I guess you are one in the same who says I’ll buy this ultralight cookset then carry along a full size felling axe and say…well at least i saved a few grams on the cookset.
@@leewilson98 Nope. You’re clueless. Besides, I’m mainly a SS guy.
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Pathfinder makes excellent gear.
It was an existing product, rebranded for Pathfinder.
tips, add noodle, let them get rdy, pour out 50% of that water, then add seasoning.
I voted foe the other one. Its difficult to believe there is a significant differance from the keith set, to the pathfinder set. I think the big question if ti is your thing. Bottle set or traditional set.
Their lids all have holes in them for straining out liquid also. Thats what the 3 holes in the lid are for.
Just my opinion, but a surplus Russian VDV canteen is roughly the same thing, but in aluminum. It's also like 1/4 the cost.
Awesome review as usual. You had me at boiling water.
I would love one, but that price is painful. It looks to me like one of those “I’d love that for our anniversary” presents, unless there’s a lot of disposable income hanging around. Until that day, I’ll just have to enjoy watching others enjoy it.
Great video, I really want to get one I just can't get over the Titanium squeaking sounds. Certin sounds like Styrofoam dog whistles and now the Titanium squeak really hurt my ears.
Yes, brings back memories of a road trip as a kid with my parents, they had a giant styrofoam cooler with a lid that never stopped squeaking!
Too Gol-Darned Expensive! Maybe if I'm through-hiking the AT, but otherwise I'll stick to my SS Stanley!
Agreed, many people pay premium for ultralight gear and then carry a 5 lb fire kit with multiple redundancies!
I have my British army canteen and mug
50 years
Does the same
a lot less money
a little heavier
I've got one, and I really rate it. I don't do much cooking in the bowl, although I have used it as a frying pan, it's just not really that good at it.
I use it more as an eating bowl, saving the mug for tea.
The pouch isn't that good, that much is true, but I recall Dave Canterbury saying that he didn't think it was worth upgrading the pouch as sold, because he expected that most people would put it into an after market pouch anyway.
I'd rather have something that has it's own stove. Something to put on a wood fire, or use a trangia in, but fit inside the kit.
"Sometimes, you just have to have the perfect kit."
I'm a Pathfinder fan, but I'm staying away from Titanium. Not worth it to me.
I think your right, I have this one, and Pathfinder stainless steel kit, I prefer the stainless steel set best.
Pro tip, stop using ounces and just use ml. Problem solved ;)
I have the pathfinder school rebrand which is the boundless voyage brand, identical set. I love it so far, except that loud metal screeching of the cap - but nothing to be done about that I suppose.
Why do folks use these form factors instead of round water bottles, pots, and nesting cups? These seem unwieldy when trying to cook or sit on a stove.
They do fit better either on the hip or in a haversack. Ive got the SS pathfinder bottle and it just makes the haversack too deep, was hoping the canteen (SS or Ti) would be a better fit and sit neater on top of the tarp due to lower height.
If you carry your gear generally inside the rucksack, a round pot/cup around a round bottle, maybe even everything nested into a round stove, would give you most probably a perfect fit. Similar would happen with a rectangular shape, but that shape isn't so great for cooking since you cannot stir properly in the corners, and cleaning could also be an issue.
But if you don't want to open your rucksack for a cup of water and want the bottle always ready for grabbing and using it, you have to carry it outside, maybe in a kind of haversack or or in an extra bottle holder thing, or fixed at your gear belt, and a round shaped bottle would always dangle forward/backward whiles walking whiles a more flat or even kidney shape keeps the bottle straight at your body.
So, very clearly, the shape of such kits isn't optimized for cooking and carrying in a rucksack but for best on body carrying experience in a military use context. It is a historically developed form factor, the modern shape goes back to models of 1910 and got more or less finalized around 1974.
There is a very interesting article about the historical development of such army mess kits, I don't want to put a link here because the comment would then be arrested by youtube, but you can google it if you are interested in history, just search for David Cole Army Field Mess Gear pdf
@@leewilson98 Good point. Flatter and rounded if you carry as a hip pack.
@@bangalorebobbel I can now see if you carried a gear belt or hip pack, this would be a/the way to go. I don't carry that way -- I use a pack, since I typically need to take more when I venture further out in Colorado, than what I can fit into a comfortable hip pack. But in warmer weather..... I did take a page from military gear, however, in now I am a firm believer in solid fuel stoves -- small, light, ,compact, and work dang well in winter. Great for stopping for a hot coffee! And, they''re quiet compared to even the smallest of butane stoves (if you carry the fuel inside your jacket).
@@skylerphoenix8880 yes if you need to carry only a water bottle and a cup for a quick coffee ... and yes, escpecially in such a scenario nothing better than an Esbit stove or at least a tablet which you can fire up between some stones ... I used my dad's Esbit stove already as a kid and still like that stuff, but using now mostly hexamine tablets from British Army surplus instead of Esbit tablets since this Hexamine is sold currently very cheap after the Brits switched over to the new gel stoves.
But I love also a lot to use the good old Swiss M71 gel stove (usually refilled with alcohol since I don't get gel in India) or some DIY beer can stoves or any other small DIY alcohol stove for a fast coffee. The M71 fits fine into a little mug, along with some coffee powder etc, and water comes from a simple bottle - not only great solution for a stopover in the outdoors but also perfect during a short pause whiles riding a motorcycle or being on a long road trip with the jeep ...
Yet for cooking rice or preparing meals I prefer mostly wood stoves. Homemade hobos mostly preferred but I became recently also little bit addicted to a Keith Titanium stick stove, Ti2201. Which is also fine for putting a canteen cup on top ... or putting charcoal inside and using it for a small bbq ;-)
No ounces or cup measures ? No sale. Both systems would be very easy to do. They are inviting me to go elsewhere.
Any one else going crazy for that fork 🤪
Well I'll tell you. The rest of the world uses (ml), but they could have used both. Here is Canada we learn both units of measurement, so to us it reallllly doesn't matter :P
This kit is just the same as the Boundless Voyage, with tweak to the handles. It is an OEM kit that anyone can pay to have labelled as they will.
I was asking my self the same thing, why pay hundred of dollars when i can pay less for boundless voyage version
And it even have hangers so i can hang it over fire
Omg, you contaminated everything with that steel fork, how could you? Hehe.
Were those brats
FIRST comment!!!
The best thing about this kit is that the price of the stainless steel kit dropped.
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I've noticed that both are made in China and I think by the same manufacturer
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One of the most expensive ramen meals ever.